/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4908875
>>4908871

The innovator has a dim display, probably something to do with it being thin. Also some people reported pen jitter which isn't something you get on any other modern device and some bizarre issue with pen tilt working only in the middle of the screen but failing one inch away from the edges.

FFFFF so is the s6 lite good or bad for drawing.

>>4908903
Bad screen, good pen, but not as good as S7/+.

>>4908909
How's the screen bad? I wanna learn to draw on it, but spending £750 for the S7, or more for the S7+ just seems like blowing my load.

>>4908912
TFT. Know those cheap square-shaped dim screens you may still see in schools and low-budget IT environments? It's essentially the same technology. Maybe a bit prettier, but still TFT.

>>4908912
S6 and S7 are also a middle ground option, just so you are aware.

Anyone else have issues transferring muscle memory from paper to iPad? The hard plastic on glass is too slippery, and I don't want to ruin the screen quality with a protector

>>4908920
I don't mind spending money on tools to work when I'm able to actually make money on it. For now, I should start smaller.

>>4908922
If it is exclusively for drawing with an already existing PC, might I, dare I, suggest XP-Pen screens? I know anons will come screeching at me but how else will you get a full-fledged drawing tablet for under 300?

Is the Cintiq 16 good for it's price? It fits into the upper end of my budget searching for a display for PC and is a decent size for HD. Any common issues with it?
t.eurofag

>>4908924
I don't mind spending up to £400, but the Samsung range is £700+ atm. Some chinesium pen tablets like the XP-Pen were considered, and a Wacom One, but everyone was very, very against those.

>>4908926
Current Cintiqs have heating problems. In the beginning customers were complaining about the loud fan noises so Wacom proclaimed they included a fix with an update. The "fix" is being able to turn the fans down which makes the screens go hot. Maybe - just maybe - less so on the Cintiq 16, but I would wait for the next revision if (at all) I were to throw a four figure sum at Wacom.

>>4908921
itoddler btfo

>>4908921
Remember the people who said that ipad pencil was just perfect fantastic more real than the actual pencil?

Well, they were shills.

Need Help. Presently drawing with shitty Huion (80€)

>Budget
500-700 €
>Location
Paris, France
>Type (display? Non-display? portable?)
Display
>Size (in inches)
Whatever.

is a 15.6 pen display big enough for shoulder drawing? i hear a lot of people say that you need something that is atleast a3 size i.e. 20+ inches

Is the cintiq 24/32 pro any good? Does justify it's price tag? Please redpill me on them.

>>4908982
xp pen innovator or 15.6 pro
>>4908987
shoulder drawing is a meme

>>4908987
That's decent for wrist drawing, 26" is a good start for shoulder drawing if you're about 5'4" and 32" is ideal for 6'+. Nowadays though it's all about full latissimus dorsi sweep-drawing so a 52" tablet should do you just fine

>>4908921
Idk, im using a paper-like protector and it's aight, not sure how it would ruin the screen since you can remove it easily.

>>4908989
It is good. The price tag depends on whether you can afford it or not.

>>4908989
its the best but only if you have the money
otherwise xp pen/ huion is better
dont listen to the poltard saying the chinese are shit
hes just a schizo

>>4908998
jej

>>4908926
>>4908929
Only issue so far is image retention and I guess not having a wide color gamut like the pro series otherwise it's fine.

No fan noise and it doesn't heat up.

>>4909025
sry meant for >>4908993

>>4908926
And unless you draw like a caveman you might need a screen protector since it apparently scratches easily more so than the previous 13HD model.

>>4909000
I can afford it, but I dont like the idea of it being just marginally better than my current tablet (cintiq 21 ux) I just want a tablet to end all drawing tablets, the final solution so the digital question.

>>4909048
>cintiq 21 ux
It is going to have a MASSIVELY better display and laminated glass.
same pen and same lag though.

>>4909048
>I just want a tablet to end all drawing tablets, the final solution so the digital question.
Then what you want is the ipad pro 12.9 inch (2020) with the apple pencil 2.0 and a paperlike™ matte screen protector

>>4909064
12.9 is too small for professional usage, good luck on your carpal tunnel syndrome

>>4909057
They dont use the same pen, the UX use the one with 2k pressure levels and the pro line uses the one with 8k pressure levels, please correct me if Im mistaken.

>>4909084
I have superior artist wrist genes so i dont have to worry about carpal tunnel, i was born for this ;d

>>4909092
begone shill

>>4909090
Yes but they use the same technology feel and behave nearly identical.

>>4908912
The screen is fine, that guy is a moron. Screens aren't even that important for drawing tablets, pen is.

Why samsung?Just buy an iPad pro, the best portable drawing tablet out there.

>>4908982
Don't listen to chinese shills like this moron: >>4908992
You'll just get the same crap as your Huion.

Get a Galaxy Tab S7 if you can. If not, consider a used iPad Pro 2nd Gen or an S6 Lite.

Reminder to discard chinese shills like >>4909013 >>4908992

Chinese Tablets are complete garbage. As seen in webm related, they suffer from line wobble, bad tapering, broken tilt and a multitude of other issues that come with cheap design. Worst of all is the horrible quality control.

The shills are aggressive, ignore them.

>>4909109
Because the iPad is more overpriced and they bend.
Because being trapped in Apple's app ecosystem sucks.
Because superDisplay is better than any iPad app for using a tablet as a display tablet for Windows. It also doesn't cost a subscription fee.
Because the S7+ has an OLED display.

>>4909090
Pressure is a meme.
Means absolutely nothing, don't be conned. As long as it's a well designed pen, pressure doesn't matter. For example, a 1k Wacom pen is far better for art than an 8k chinese pen, because the Wacom pen doesn't have line wobble.

>>4909097
I have to disagree with you, the pro pen 2 feels way more precise, and you can achieve a wider range to opacity without having to press really hard/tweak the setting of the pressure curve, its hard to describe it just feels lighter and more comfortable

>>4909119
The absolute state of Chang

I’m new here damn y’all are nerds (in a good way) just stop overthinking the machines and draw peacefully

>>4909119
Works on my hand.
Try not being shit.

>>4909135
And how exactly we can tell its a huion the tablet you are using? uh?

>>4909139
I recorded the driver responding to the pen pressure in beginning.

>>4909135

>>4909135
>>4909143
>still thinking your shitty webms mean anything
How stupid are you, Chang? This webm >>4909119 actually shows the tablets from the outside.

Chink tablets are garbage, no matter how hard you desperately shill.

>>4909133
>don't research your products, just buy and draw

>>4909145
Maybe the youtubers just can't draw for shit lol?

>>4909151
They're basic line tests, chinese idiot.

>>4909149
Lol y’all should’ve been the tech support that wacom lack of lately

>>4909158
Again it works with my hand so I suppose they fucked up the basic line tests. What do you think lines are a skill too.

And that's why you never posted your own basic line test, becase most people can't control it as well as I can on my chinese Deco Pro Medium by Xp-Pen.

>Budget: 1k USD
>Location: US/MEX
>Type (display? non-display? portable?): Display or tablet pref
>Size (in inches): As big as possible
>Previous equipment: Wacom pen and touch

Saved for new equipment, was trying to decide between s7 and Ipad pro but would like to heard other alternatives

>>4909169
Kamvas 24 pro.

Ching Chong Wala wala Bing Bong, to be fair if you can't afford wacom there is no choice but to go Ching chong tech route, there's no other way so Chang still got it right.

Pen broke for my Huion H610 pro.Am I able to get a replacement pen? Would it have to be a h610 pen or could it be any pen that's compatible with the tablet?

>>4909188
>if you don't buy the shit that costs 5 times the price of competition you just can't afford it.

I got the cost of an Intuos pro for two pictures for one commissioner and spent it on a Ukrainian escort instead.
The beautiful thing about money is that they offer you choices. A choice to spend 500$ on a screenless tablet, or a choice to keep the 400$ for something else.

>>4909195
Yes https://store.huion.com/products/rechargeable-pen-pen80

My girlfriend does digital art and wants to teach me some things. She uses her cintiq for work so I don't want to hog it while I'm practicing.
Procreate seems like a very straight forward and intuitive place to start, would you guys recommend a used iPad for that over getting a super cheap tablet?

>>4908912
my dad just bought the S7 tablet for 300 bucks at costco and it seems to be really nice so far

>>4909350
How the fuck, it's like $700

Hello, what tablet i should buy?
I wouldn't want to spend more than 1000USD
Poland
I think i would like having a display, but i used non-display so far and i don't know how hard of a transition would it be.
Size, honestly no idea. You anons will know better.
My previous equipment is wacom bamboo cth 670. It's working, i had no problems with it, but i had it for 10 years now i think and i thought i should upgrade. not to mention i live in fear it might break in the worst moment when i'm in some kind of a rush to finish project.

>>4909358
costco has a special my dude, it comes with the pen, case, and everything

>>4909507
ah never mind I'm retarded, I just asked him he got the s6 for 300 at costco

recently purchased an S7 and I'm keen to put the pen to use. I doodle a lot of bullshit but have never used any graphics tablets/apps for more than a minute.

Anyone have any advice on good drawing apps for android? I'm definitely /beg/ but I like learning and would be willing to engage with less /beg/ friendly software. Tips?

I initially posted this in the wrong thread; sorry for slumming up the board

>>4909167
>still posting screencaps within the software
Still a complete fucking moron, Chang.

>>4909169
Cintiq 22/Used Cintiq 22HD.
Could also try landing a used 27 QHD.

Do not listen to the Chinese shill: >>4909170
Huions are god awful, particularly with quality control and reliability. Still have cheap shity pens too.

>>4909452
If you want to go display, get one of the new Samsuns Galaxy S7+s because they're quite great. A used iPad Pro is also a good option.
For non display, the 2013 Intuos Pro is your best option within your budget.

>>4909897
Infinite Painter
ClipStudio Pro (Samsung Store)
Krita
Ibis Paint
Medibang

Also, superDisplay is a must-have; it lets you use the tablet as a display tablet for a windows PC.

>>4909937
Still a talentless, seething autist ;)

>>4900362
Any input?
I'm super tempted just to put down 1k for a Cintiq 22 right now because I have a 10% off coupon.

>>4909978
Size is not a meme, and you will be able to draw more efficiently with your whole arm/shoulder. If you're happy with the 16, you will be happy with the 22. It also comes with the stand.

S7+ price was lowered to €876.00 on Amazon (that's considered cheap in Germanistan). I'm really tempted right now. Are further discounts in sight for "Cyber Monday" in 2 months or should I not bother?

>>4909998
is the resolution that much of an issue when increasing size?

>>4908992
Innovator 16 is trash and the screen isn't nearly bright enough, will only dim with time. Avoid that one at all costs. 15.6 pro is fucking great though.

>>4909119
Most of that stuff in the webm can be solved with a driver update or by turning the tuning screw under the pen side buttons.

>>4909452
Xp pen 24 pro if you want a big boi at 2k resolution

>>4910872
>chinese garbage
nope.

>>4908998
how fast does it wear down your nib

Warning about the regular S7:
While I haven't found detailed tests for the tablet yet, many users report the screen having a very noticeable green tone and being very inconsistent with quality. Seems to be even worse than the S6 lite "budget" display.

>>4911304
can't a screen calibrator puck fix it?

>>4911327
It sure can't fix faulty borders or one half being grayish pink and the other green.

What’s a good cheap laptop that can run csp and an intuos?

>>4909119

This guy has to be a Wacom shill.

PROOF THAT XP-PEN DISPLAY TABLETS ARE GOOD:

https://youtu.be/MxqvULDw3EY?t=440

Literally all your stupid webm shows is a brush with spacing on, and pressure sensitivity set wrong, and no fucking smoothing on whatsoever. All things that can be fixed through the settings for the tablet, and the settings in your art program.

I know the OP is like nooooo you can't buy xp pen chink shit but isn't the deco pro regarded as a fairly reliable screenless?

>>4911752
Screenless generally have nothing to break in them since they don't use micro-usb and batteries anymore you can expect them to live forever.

The surface doesnt get scratches or wear either.

>>4911408
I have an Aspire E15 that I run CSP, Ps and Krista on for streaming. Has upgradeable ram and just put as SSD in for speed. Paid like $250 burger cents.

>>4911414
>PROOF THAT XP-PEN DISPLAY TABLETS ARE GOOD:
You're getting awfully desperate, Chang. Did it not occur to your tiny chinese brain that your brand literally only sends people tablets if they shill them positively? It's already been comprehensively proven you braindead chinese moron.

>>4911752
No, because the main problem with all chinese tablets across the board is PEN QUALITY.

With Wacom, you have the same high quality Pro Pen 2 across all their tablets. With Apple, you have the Apple Pencil. With every single Chinese tablet, you have the same Ugee manufactured garbage, complete with the abrupt tapering, broken tilt, wobbbly nib, among everything else. Chink pens are so cheap to manufacture they literally include a second pen with every tablet.

>>4909998
well I bit the bullet and upgraded to the 22HD.
i got 10% off and 75$ back in best buy credit so i got some money off at least.

What kind of protective film do I need to make sure I don't scratch my screen but also don't lose sensitivity or make it feel weird to use?

>>4912368
Paperlike.

In reality, "protective" film is a meme, and won't actually protect you from anything. iPads are glass and will never pick up scratches from the pencil, but if you want the textured feeling when drawing, you get a paperlike.

As for Wacom, etched glass is designed to resist scratches.

Going to be as honest as possible. Don't buy anything that's not wacom. I've had a cintiq 16 for about 2 years and its been amazing. Before this, I had a surface pro, a huion, and an xpen, all of which broke.

>>4912441
>he hasn't tried an ipad pro yet

>>4912441
sucks to be you i guess

The keyboard cover for the Galaxy Tab S7+ is supposedly really shoddy. I have seen Amazon reviews describing the tablet falling out while in use. Also, they forgot the penholder with the first revision. No, really. And since they introduced a German layout I can't find a US cover anywhere here. Now first of all, this doesn't give me much confidence in the tablet's build quality itself. Bht even if I bought one, what the hell kind of cover can I even get that's not chinkshit with deteriorating fake leather?

Do I have any options for a tablet that runs Windows that isn't a Surface Pro/Surface Go? I'd also like to do some software development work on these, and I'm not gonna try that shit on Android or iOS.

Assuming so, is the S7+ really worth it? I don't have a ton of space where I live, the regular S7 seems fine to me.

As far as OP's questions:
>Budget
Could go up to $1000, possibly beyond that, would prefer to stick around $800 unless those extra dollars are gonna give me a lot of bang for my buck.
>Location
USA
>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
Portable Display
>Size (in inches)
12", though I'm flexible here.
>Other information
Am noob, I need a new laptop anyway and kind of want to try picking up drawfagging again.
>Previous equipment
None

>>4911752
Yes. Most xp-pen tablets are good and reliable aside from the innovator 16.

>inb4 "ok chang" "not buying ur chinkshit, shill"
Fuck out of here, dumbass

>>4909135
What monitor/tab are you using? Love the 60hz smoothness in the recording, shows how fluid it is.

>>4911414
>This guy has to be a Wacom shill.
Yeah his name is Aaron, his top 10 graphics tablet list consists of 10 different models of wacom tablets, and he refuses to enable comments on his videos.

Hi I’ve always be trad and I want to switch to digital should I start with a screen or screen-lest tablet?

>>4913639
I'm using Xp-Pen Deco pro and the monitor is AOC U3277PWQU , which by the was the best purchase of my life
>32"
>4K
>92% AdobeRGB
>3000:1 contrast (FANTASTIC compared to the normal 1000:1)
>+-1% backlight uniformity, no bleeding no shit
>500$

What stand should I get?
Where should I get them from?
I have an xp-pen artist 12

>>4912178
Doesn't negate the visual evidence we can all see in the video they posted that disproves the previous webm. If they were as 100% guaranteed faulty as you claim they wouldn't still be a business. I'm sorry to infer you were cucked by an asian. Maybe you should've paid more attention to your wife's pressure sensitivity, like Chang does.

What’s a good desk prop for an iPad? I like to lean on stuff so something sturdy and big would be preferable.

>>4914070
Wacom is also asian you tard

>>4908876

My experience with drawing monitors:

Huion Kamvas 16 and Pro 16:
Awful. The pen (PW507) have a sever cursor offset issue. Everytime your tilt your hand, the cursor will misaligned from your pen tip.

Huion Kamvas Pro 22:
Acceptable. Huion have to send me a new pen due to a hovering problem with the 1st one (PW500).

Wacom 21UX DTK2100:
(A local seller offered me this tablet in 500 usd. He claimed that the device was never being used. Just only someone did takes the pen)

Amazing. Even having 10 years old, the cintiq 21UX 2nd gen brings me a very pleasent drawing expercience. Some folks talks about parallax, but in my case, I did not feel to much.
It was shame send it back to the seller 'cause it starting to show a lot of dead pixels (+10) in less than a 2 weeks and the heat from the screen started to worries me.

Wacom One 13.3:
Good experience: No offset or hovering issue. But the pen stroke quality is far than the Pro-pen offers. This and the tiny size of the screen makes the experience a little annoying.

hows pic related? I want to upgrade from my screenless wacom intuos
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BZ729QJ/?coliid=I1FEQ7J5LB3RF1&colid=1U5N2FY0LER7P&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

>>4915424
If you care about colour accuracy and contrast ratio, get the plus version.

Also, brace for the NPC autist poster. This triggered his programming.

>>4915424
This is the ancient obsolete model, it has a shitty display and no-laminated glass.
There's a new Kamvas 22 Plus models with sexy juicy good colors, laminated glass and tilt sensitivity it costs 100$ more.
Also there are Kamvas Pro models, i would recommend looking towards the 2020 models specifically since they have an updated pen.

With the chinks you need some research since they have confusing naming conventions and still sell the old models.

Wish someone finally made some detailed measurements for the smaller Galaxy Tab. Pen seems to be the same as S7+ but if the screen is garbage then it's not worth it.

>>4916093
All chinkblets are garbage, ching chong.

>>4916127
surely if they were as awful as these anons make them out to be then they wouldnt be garnering so much success in the business? They very obviously would have failed by now if they were THAT bad, but they havent, because the gap between them and wacom is pretty much closed already, but they slaughter them in pricing. You can point to as many faulty units you want, but if you then just ignore the similarly faulty wacom units, your viewpoint isnt to be taken into consideration.

Hello, /ic/

Having trouble between this and the 2013 version,which one is better?

>>4916137
>these anons
There's one /pol shizo, one.
And he admitted the only thing he cared about was the chinese economy, yrs really, he's here to crash their economy by telling the people to buy S6 or used Wacoms. And he shits on the new wacoms because those are made in china too.

>>4908876
Im looking for a digital sketchbook, i'm not looking for something powerful, just powerful enough to not lag while using a small pencil tool so I can get ideas or rough starts down fast.

anyone able to help me with what is minimally viable?

>>4908989
cintiq if you make money off your work, huion if you don't. there are minor flaws in huion, at least minor to me, what I want in a tablet was just something to make some photoshop edits easier,

I was never able to draw on a tablet the way I can on paper, it was always painting and editing that I did with it, things that need 10's of hundreds of strokes and don't rely on one clean stroke. I required a screen to draw digitally. my kamvas 13 was more than good enough, i'm just sat the kamvas 22 wasnt out at the time otherwise I would have gone that.

tldr, there are some minor flaws in line straightness, that literally every tablet I have ever used has as well, and there is a small parallax effect, but it's far easier for me to get use to it or or calibrate it out of existence then it is for me to decouple my eyes from where i'm drawing and be able to do anything worthwhile.

If you need some editing and photoshop makes it hard with a mouse

huion h610 prov2

if you do this as a hobby and want a display

kamvas, I recommend bigger because you will want bigger then 13, but piss with the cock you got price wise.

wacom is only buyable if you have an absolute need for tilt (this is a problem with huion, but as I don't use tilt its a non issue) or if you art professionally with the screens, otherwise huion has you covered for cheaper.

>>4916183
The new one burns through the nibs like fire, prepare for the razor and blades model.

The old one has a micro usb that is destined to fail.

>>4909119
1) never seen horrific pressure variants that were not my fault or a setting I had enabled.
2) never used tilt, experimented a bit, and it seems on mine its only along the edges that tilt 'breaks', a nice feature to have but not a make or break.
3)calibrate the display, even if the mouse is off a bit, its a non issue
4) literally every tablet, wacom, apple, samsung, huion all fail the horizontal slow ruler line if it has a screen, the only ones that dont are non screen tablets.

>>4910301
yes and no.
you will notice it being up close to the monitor, but I will tell you from experience, 1080p on a 13 inch display sucks dick, if it was available at the time I would have went 22 inch.

>>4916577
Yeah I think the reviewers just suck.
>muh pressure spike
It happens when tapering off but not tapering on, it's not the tablet but his hand.
>muh tilt
Same he probably released the pressure while making a stroke and an acute angle
>the cursor fucks up
It avtually holds fine until he puts the pen flat on the screen, yeah it obviosly fucks up at extreme angle, but the pen is not a charcoal stick, you don't draw flat with it.
>Wobble
You can literally see the end of the pen wobbling in his hand, it's where on video.

None of the youtube reviewers are actually good artists, they are webcomic shitters at best. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't know how to handle the pen.
Marc Brunet gave the Artist a positive review, and unlike those shitters he's an actual big guy, the pressure seems to work right in his hands and he works pro and sells courses, he doesn't depend on shilling as a career.

>>4916608
Here;s the Marc's video, and he draws an entire illustration with an Artist tablet.

Works for him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANWe6qJlLh4

Where can I grab a Cintiq 22hd? The wacom site just takes you to the Wacom Cintiq 22.

>>4916616
Discontinued, seek aftermarket.

>>4908989
>it is
>yeah, I mean it's a good product

Don't get touch unless you are coming from an ipad or something like that with gestures, the fans can get quite loud and bothering, 32 has a slightly rougher drawing surface than 24 which eats felt tips, get the arm stand

ask away if you anything you're curious about

>>4916573
Oh, fuck I guess should I save a bit of cash and buy a screen wacom tablet? I have no clue what to buy.

>>4916137
wacom non pro tablets suck dick
the pro tablets start at what... 300 fucking$ are you shitting me, they use to cost 150... for fuck sake

ok that changes things a bit.

as it comes to non display tablets, huion closed the gap and in some cases depending on time were better.

when it comes to displays, wacom were marginally better for a long time, but they were shit till the last 7 years, china display tablets were worse than wacom by a mile, but were 1/4th the price at max, today, they have caught up significantly with wacom really only winning out if you want 1 display and your work needs to be color accurate. otherwise, 1 penable display and 1 mirrored professionally calibrated color display is better and likely cheaper.

>>4916608
>wobble

even if that's the case, this is a common test, a diagonal straight line, with ruler, made slowly, every single penable display fails this regardless of manufacture, its how badly they fail that is the question.

also, I have a huion kamvas, the fucker is impossible to get the pen and cursor to line up 1:1 across the whole screen, but the small bit its off is predictable and a non issue.

>>4916634
I personally would get a new Pro and a whole bag of tips if I wan't happy with my Deco already. Or you could get a micro usb and make sure to never ever touch it. maybe even secure the cable with epoxy so it never moves.

Some people use the micro usb ones but for me personally it's a deal breaker. I had like 4 smartphones that died because of a failing port, I personally HATE micro usb with burning passion, but that's just me.

>>4916640
Well my Deco Pro doesn't have this issue, but Deco 01 did. And the speed has nothing to do with it.

If your tablet has wobble it produces a very regular and uniform wave patters slow or fast.
But if youre drawing really slowly it picks up your minimal hand shakes, heartbeats , something, i don't have a surgeon's hand and the first thing i learned is that if i want to have a straight line it has to be a very quick shoulder stroke like SWOOSH before your hand had a chance to shake.

>>4916668
yes and no, the wobble is very pronounced on our ipad pro, a slow diagonal like will have about a half centimeter of wobble, if you do the same line fast, its not noticeable at all, and its always diagonal that this surfaces, it's never vertical or horizontal.

also, i figured I would come in with a tilt test because fuck it, lets see what it does.

for this I pressed down on a tilted angle, and just circled my hand around. it seems like the about 1cm on the sides of the display is a deadzone for the tilt, and it's also evident that I have shit control of the pen when I do this, some people can make a perfect circle, I make a potato. but this should show there is no dead angles on a kamvas 13

>>4916137
>so much success
It's a small market, ching chong. They're always going to get a share of the poorfags and cheapos scared of expensive gear, but that doesn't make them good quality products. Enough evidence has already been posted in this thread that the pens are still bad.

>>4916137
>so much success
It's a small market, ching chong. They're always going to get a share of the poorfags and cheapos scared of expensive gear, but that doesn't make them good quality products. Enough evidence has already been posted in this thread that the pens are still bad.

>>4916577
>4) literally every tablet, wacom, apple, samsung, huion all fail the horizontal slow ruler line if it has a screen, the only ones that dont are non screen tablets.
Well, that's blatantly false. It's already been proven Cintiqs and iPads do not have this problem at all, Chang.

>>4917366
I have an ipad faggot, still has wavey diagonals
slow diagonals is literally a benchmark that EVERY PENABLE DISPLAY fails, its all about how badly they fail.

>>4917364
Market size doesnt matter that much if you're comparing the performance two companies who solely produce products for said market. Its one of the older businesses as far as tech goes, and huion/xp havent died out yet despite multiple series releases. You cant seriously claim that its all one big scam and that they just find fresh new hordes of people to screw over, miraculously immune from the spread of information between consumers. Sure, you get faulty units, but you get faulty ipads and cintiqs as well. Shit you pay 8x the price for. Its no measure or proof of maliciousness.

I get that it terrifies boomers, but who fucking cares. Theyre also scared of non photoshop software and MSG.

Their products work, and for the price, offer far greater value. Its so fucking stupid to try and convince people to keep flocking to a singular company, especially one as egregiously anti consumer as wacom. They need competition to kick their ass.

Are Dead pixels a common issue in the wacom cintiq?

>>4917379
>Their products work
*provided you're happy with wobbly lines, condom tapering and broken tilt

>>4917366
Says the guy who doesn't own any of the mentioned hardware.


Also GL, Amerifats. Heard your markets crashing after your leader faked covid. Those tablet import prices are about to tear you all a new one.

>>4915314
did you notice any parallax issues with the wacom one? and you found the screen size to be too small?

>>4917478
Im not, but thats ok because I dont get any of that on my tablet. Every single tablet and display tablet Ive owned have worked fine, from all the major manufacturers. The only ones I have returned were screened tablets that didnt have good enough colours/contrast ratio.

>>4908876
Should i wait for the next Huawei tablet? i heard that the last one isn`t very good for art
I have a 15.6 non-pro Huion

my huion new 1060plus bit the bullet when finally let it fall to on the ground after 3 years of use
my budget is still trash so what's the latest chink shit on the 50-80 euro range?

>>4918968
h610 v2

what's a good sized cintiq for modeling in zbrush and for drawing?

I have a ipad pro 12.9, so I'm mostly just looking for a bigger drawing surface that will be good for occasionally drawing and for a lot of zbrush. definitely has to be a screen table though, I tried for years to get used to a non-screen and it never clicked for me

is the 16 a big enough jump from the 12,9 that I'll appreciate it or will it just feel slightly better?

>>4918981
If you're paying for a cintiq then money obviously isnt an issue, so just go for a 22

glad i didn't listen to the wacom shills in this thread. i got a kamvas pro 16 and it's very good. only negative is the stand is cheap as hell. i'll get a third party one. huion is great.

what's the real difference between the 24 pro cintiq and the 22 cintiq? I got all of my back payment for unemployment so I could afford either, but what exactly do you get for the extra 1000 that is noticeable?

>>4919276
Ok Chang.

>>4919321
The Pro is 4K resolution, has a bonded screen and has better color range.

>>4919531
is 4k a noticeable difference or is it just a meme? ipad screens look nice. those are small

>>4919276
>glad i didn't listen to the wacom shills, listen to me, a huion shill.

>>4919631
So.. anytime someone says a huion tablet is good, they are a shill, but the people who say apple are good arent shills? How so?

>>4908876
I bought a cheap wacom tablet and I just downloaded krita.
What are the best resource to start learning?
I'm complete /beg/

>>4919649
drawabox.com

>>4919649
ctrlpaint
have fun anon enjoy the ride

>>4919680
Fuck off.
>>4919682
Thanks!.

PSA: ignore /pol/ schizo

>>4919575
Its the only thing Wacom has going for it besides its pens and the last two pen patents they're holding on to. XP has a 2k res on their 24pro and has been getting steadily positive reviews.
>>4919641
The cross-border is just trying to dissuade people from spending money anywhere but America. Ignore him. Buy a tablet that gets you back to drawing.
>>4919276
Artisul has solid stands. Despite what it may seem on paper its pretty sturdy.

>>4919641
maybe because of quality?
>inb4 you are just saying that because you hate chinese stuff because you are a pol schizo
ipads are also made in china, but huion is built with a lower standard of quality. if xp-pens and huions were made with a higher standard of quality and sold cheaper than wacoms everyone would buy them including me, however that is not the case and you simply end up paying around 50-70% of what a wacom costs and get a product that will last you less than 10% of what a wacom would have lasted you and you also get a much worse experience because of the shitty pen

should i just get the cintiq 16 or wageslave for another month for a 22 is it worth

>>4919744
If youre going for wacom, whatever size you get, you should only buy the pro models.

just realized i could attach my cintiq to my old monitor arm, only problem is that it wobbles sometimes if i apply a decent amount of pressure. is there any way of getting around this or do people just get used to it?

>>4919724
>XP has a 2k res on their 24pro and has been getting steadily positive reviews.
It's garbage you dumbfuck chink.

I have a $400 dollar budget, should I wait for the new iPad 8 to go on sale and go for that and an apple pencil or is there anything better I could get now?

>>4920104
a used iPad Pro 12.9" 2nd gen is a far better option than any non-pro iPad.

>>4920106
I've heard the battery is shit though. I want something that can last me 3 or so years.

>>4920103
Have you ever used one? Tell me, whats garbage about it? If you own one please send a pic of it with this thread open on it :)

>>4920104
You can get an xp pen 15.6" pro and one of those artisul/parblo tablet stands.

If youre specifically looking for something standalone then I don't know what to tell you

>>4920113
Is the pro much better than the basic 15'6? I borrowed a friend's once and it was a shitty experience all around.

What's your thoughts on the new ipad air?

cheapest screen tablet?

>>4920103
Nice argument

>>4920107
All Apple products have bad battery. The good part is they have great aftermarket support, and replacing a battery is cheap and easy at any phone repair place.

is the tab s7+ worth the extra $$$ over the tab s7?
I'm mostly worried about screen size
I know people say 11'' ipads are enough but they have different aspect ratios

>>4920129
note phone with stylus

>>4920150
>all apple products have bad battery
Every phone/tablet/laptop will kill its own battery after a year or two of constant use.

Apple laptops are literally one of the most battery efficient of all. And mind you a tablet will last 2x longer than any laptop will battery-wise. It’s not the battery that’s garbage on apple, it’s their whole autistic closed ecosystem OS.

>>4919935
misinfo

>>4920103
I have it. Its fine. Get off our board.

>>4920225
>I have it. Its fine
That's because you're a chinese shill, idiot.

>>4920111
>>4909119

>>4920114
Yes, by a long shot.

>>4920181
Ok? Prove me wrong with facts then. In my experience with wacom they've shifted all their good shit to the pro models and everything under that is made like shit on purpose just to get those entry level dollars.

>>4920181
http://forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?t=2469

>>4920237
Point and laugh everyone

>>4920466
not that anon, but pro 13 and pro 16 were pulled off stores. And their amazon reviews are miles worse than chinks, with most negative reviews complaining about getting a lemon, touch not working properly, dead pixels, pen randomly disconnecting, hdmi compatibility issues. The only good pros to get are 24 and 32

Any way to make the mouse pointer follow the tablet?

>>4917478
>wobbly lines
literally every penable display has them, there are NO DISPLAYS THAT DON'T
>condom tapering
see image, long story it seems like a travel distance from 0-8000~ when releasing does not release completely but I can't force this unless i'm trying to move VERY fast.
>broken tilt
see >>4916769

>>4920114
Yes. But only the regular 15.6 Pro. Not the innovator. Inno16 has a dark screen that mutes colors so its not worth it. The regular Pro is pretty solid. If you watch Aaron R's review of it compared to the Cintiq 16 and objectively hear the pros and cons of it you might be interested.
He's incapable of being impartial but when he puts down a tablet for being better than a Wacom I pay attention.

>>4910871
>tuning screw
?

>>4913966
Parblo coast or artisul tablet stand on Amazon.

>>4921373
Under the side button of the pen is a small screw with a red ring. You turn it very lightly and test it on the tablet until its calibrated properly. It solved all of my issues with my tablet. They either have bad QA with the tuning or these things get knocked out of whack easily. Also took care of the high activation force problem.

>>4921356
Imo he doesn't make the 15.6 pro sound all that good. I think I'm just going to go with my original idea and wait for iPad sales this November.

>>4921426
>he doesn't make it sound all that good
>Aaron the notorious Wacom shill
>OP even mentioned the man shills aggressively but to watch the review objectively.

NTAYRT but if you're not actually going to do research while asking for recommendations you should stick to traditional. iPad is fine. It has procreate and thats about it but that's fine for most people. If you don't want variety get the ipad, but be prepared to also buy the pen separately, procreate, a screen protector (Paperlike is not bad), and maybe a case if you're clumsy. Apple can be fickle about damages under warranty or not.

>bought an xp-pen 24 pro
>every one in 8-10 strikes it doesn't register then the next pressure will be maxed out
Fuuuck

>>4921703
Sounds like a driver issue. Pressure jumps like that are usually from software interference. Uninstalling and reinstalling might help. Most likely it could be the pen, which you can turn the inner screw to adjust for pressure. If neither works I'd probably send it back. Email correspondence sucks from them, but their live chat might have an answer.

>>4908876
>Imagine buying chinky shit ever
>Imagine not have good enough hand-eye coordination for a screenless
>Imagine using an Ipad

>>4916635
>huion displays at one point were better
Post your employer.

>>4921299
Why are you still posting worthless screencaps, chinese idiot? Do you think if you keep posting them, your shilling will work?

Real-time benchmarks have already been posted and show these trashy chink tablets for what they are: garbage.

These threads are absolutely the worst threads on /ic/.

>>4921837
>he thinks anyone gives a fuck about what aaron rutten thinks

itd be funny if it wasnt so fucking cringe

>>4921868
>thinks
What is it about "real time benchmarks" you're too big of an idiot to understand, Zhang?

>>4921869
Because your eyebrowless freak of a boomer specimen has actually admitted to being biased, so would absolutely have no qualms about showing off a cherry picked unit that he tested before the video. :^)

Im just saying what you would, NPC schizochan.

>>4921880
>Because your eyebrowless freak
What does that have to do with real time benchmarks you stupid idiot?

Who said anything about a reviewer? I'm saying your chinese trash is garbage because there are videos outright proving it with real time benchmarks you moronic chink.

>>4921883
Mental retardation is far more often a symptom of ASD than savant capabilities, and boy it fucking shows.

I am literally saying what you would if it were an ipad in the video, because you're a sub 100 IQ loser who follows the same boring predictable programming. You would say that its a cherrypicked faulty device that the reviewer specifically chose to discredit the brand.

>>4921894
>the moron is still going
You after all this time, you still don't know what a real time benchmark is. This is because you're a braindead dumbfuck chinese shill, and not worth listening to.

Looking to pick up the Tab S6 Lite to learn drawing, is there a way to use it as a virtual tablet for desktop use or would it be better buying another standalone tablet for desktop use?

to anyone that wants to buy a tablet just remember thar the chink shills will never post a real time video of them drawing on the tablet that is not a screen recording because they know their product is not good enough and will just end up posting screen captures like the retards they are and keep deflecting a simple request

>>4921907
Yes, it's called superDisplay.

Also you should be learning how to draw with paper and a fineliner, not a tablet.

>>4921908
>>4921898

>implying you wouldnt just move goalposts when faced with video evidence of a functioning tablet, and fall back to shit like "yeah but you didnt review it exactly like in the other vid so it doesnt count!!!"

Granted youd do that anyway because you're a sub 100 IQ predictable NPC. But for the sake of the others, sure Ill make a vid. Itll be ready in a few days when Ive finished with my commission work.

>>4921911
You don't have video evidence idiot. No matter how much you desperately believe screen recordings are video evidence, they aren't, and you're still a braindead chinese shill.

>>4921910
Gotcha I'll write that down, Yeah you're right I was also hesitant on dropping money on something I might not keep up with later on. I'll check out of beginner thread for some more guidance thanks anon

>>4921913
Sorry moron, you've made your bed and now you're going to have to sleep in it. And for what, the third time now? You'll get btfo so hard you'll have even more memes made about you.

>>4921918
Keep believing you "won" and "BTFO" me, dumb chink. At the end of the day, your refusal to understand what a real time benchmark is can be seen by everyone. You're just a worthless shill, and a moron.

>>4921924
Literally could have been written by a 9 year old, god help me.

>>4921911
criteria
1.remember to record your hand on top of the screen and show at the same time that you are actually using a huion/xp-pen. as to avoid you using a wacom and then say that it was actually a huion/xp-pen, use 2 cameras at the same time if needed one showing the close-up of the drawing to show the line accuracy and another that isnt so close but you can see the whole tablet and the drawing
2.do the pen rotation test
3.do the diagonal linetest
4.do the line pressure test
5.do multiple straight lines in fast succession using pressure from the lowest pressure to the highest pressure
6. same as 5 but with curved/wavy lines
im 100% sure you will never deliver

>>4921932
Got it, no problem.

But, this part
>hand on top of the screen and show at the same time that you are actually using a huion/xp-pen

The tablet is 22 inches, so whats the best way of doing that? If I zoom out enough for the logo to be in the frame, the lines on the screen will be tiny for the viewer. Whats a way that would satisfy you?

>>4921932
>>4921934
besides two cameras, I mean. Im not buying a camcorder just for this schizo retard.

>>4921835
Did you just pick random words from what I said and made your own sentence?

The non display, read that again, NON DISPLAY, closed the gap and depending on time were better.
the huion im thinking of had a detachable cable and were as responsive as intuos (when intuos was still just the pro name) making it the better choice just by virtue of when the cable eventually breaks, they all do at some point, you just replaced the cable not the tablet, and they are better than intuos today for the travel setup as intuos offers next to nothing over them but costs an ungodly sum that I wouldn't feel comfortable traveling with.

>>4921934
i think that if you want to do it with just one camera then you would have to do it pov style where just the whole tablet can be seen, and try recording it with the highest resolution posible that your camera allows you e.g. pic related

>got an XP-pen 15.6 Pro
>need to find a case for it to lug it places
>every single goddamn laptop/tablet sleeve I can find is about 0.5 inches too small
Has anyone found a good one? I really don't want a huge chunky laptop bag or to have to make my own.

>>4921943
ok, Ill try it with a webcam.

For the rotation test, is that swirling the pen with a closeup of the cursor offset under the nib? For parallax and such?

>>4921949
it isnt really parallax but the cursor straying away from the point where your pen is, see aaron rutten video about the xp pen artist 15.6 pro vs wacom cintiq 16 to see what i mean

>>4921953
How am I going to do that if im not allowed to zoom in under the nib?

>>4921637
>NTAYRT but if you're not actually going to do research while asking for recommendations you should stick to traditional.
I have researched, and all the options seemingly suck hard. With iPad being the least shit.

>>4920466
The Cintiq 16 and 22 use the same pen as the pros and they cover 100% sRGB, which is good enough for almost anyone, except maybe guys doing print. They just don't have optional touch, not like anyone actually used touch on wacom tablets. And I guess you don't get the controller if you really used it

>>4919935
Yeah nah bullshit

The Cintiq 16 and 22 are good enough.do not believe this misinformation.

If nobody cares about Dr Who anymore, why is there literally an eternal general on /tv/?

>>>/tv/140455204

I live in southeast asia. Only have 150 dollars. Should i buy Xp pen star 03 V2 or huion h610?

>>4922951
Ok so i have been eyeing the xp pen star because its 40 dollars cheaper. Money is tight. Is it as good as huion h610?

How are the touchscreen laptops for drawing? And to make things better, at the 600€ budget. Trying to find out if they are worth anything nowadays for art.

>>4921910
Waaaait nta but does that mean I could use it to extend/duplicate my PC display? Is that done wirelessly? Could I use it as a wireless monitor?

>>4908876
Hi, a bit offtopic but can you guys recommend me something for my mum? She's a teacher so she wants to get a tablet to be able to write shit in her screenshare for classess.
I'm a /beg/ so I don't really have any knowledge of tablets since I have no use for them currently, but going by the thread opener I'd prefer something like
>up to ~200 amerishekels
>non-display, she's a smart cookie so she'll get used to staring at the screen while writing
>about as big as an a5/a4 sheet of paper
I'm in a shithole east euro country which is why I'd prefer the price to be lower side of things, but it's not like it'd be used for any actual art.

I have a Surface pro 6 with paint tool Sai ver2. I haven't notice the wobbling when using that program with the standard pen. But I would like to use a wacom pen instead... any advice? it is compatible?

>>4923556
If you want decent color accuracy, not even a new Surface Pro will do. You will need to buy a multiple 4 figure laptop for a good stylus screen ("good" for the screen, your experience with Windows styluses may vary). Only iOS and Android (and then pretty much only Samsung) tablets are relatively affordable.

>>4923556
>>4923967
Also, Microsoft are extremely unreliable and stylus / touchscreen functions often just break. Warning for their current first party line (although these issues can also occur with other manufacturers):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-8kmovD4Mo

>>4923837
Any screen less should be fine. A small Wacom or XpPen should suffice for note work.

Most screenless tablets are under 100. For XP the Deco 02 and Deco Pro are usually recommended. But if you don't need scroll a Wacom intuos should be fine.

>>4923837
anything from the wacom bamboo line, they're beginner tablets so you can usually get them secondhand on ebay or something super cheap. i got mine for like 30 bucks. but get one with a removable cord (which is pretty much everything from the past ~10 years, the ones with the cord wired on are super old) so if it shorts out you can replace it

>>4923837
>>4924248
my gf uses my old tablet for the same thing (she's a tutor), it's a bamboo splash

I have an artist 12 pen the cursor isn't pinpointing with the pen properly. How do I fix this? It's likehalf a centimetre off.

>>4923556
A lot of touchscreen laptops are responsive to only touch or no touch, i.e. you're either drawing or you're not, with no sensitivity levels. Check if the ones you're looking at are compatible with what you want to d.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a pressure-sensitive stylus/pen that is compatible with a 6th generation iPad?

>>4923954
No, it isn't compatible.

>>4921945
What? Why aren't you searching for 18" cases? I have one from Amazon. Even some 17" cases will fit it. Just double check with the dimensions of the tablet and what the bag says it will fit in it.

>>4921703
Calibrate your pen. Pop off the button and mess with the screw that has a red ring. The pressure is wraparound and when its calibrated wrong it'll do this.

>>4925104
>Why aren't you searching for 18" cases?
I am, and every one I've found so far turns out to be either "18 inches external size" (which would make it too small internally) or actually 17.3 inches or so.

I ended up finding a neoprene sleeve that was technically too small but since it's neoprene it stretched a little to accommodate it. Kind of shows, since the padding doesn't actually pad the corners like it would on something smaller.

>>4924230
>>4924248
>>4924259
I'll look into these bamboo thingies, thanks lads.

Instead of arguing over jap or chinese brands why don't you fucks just draw on paper like every good artist

what tablet is in pic related?

>>4925586
cintiq pro 13 I guess

>>4921945

XP's ACJ01 case is what you're looking for.

>>4925689
>XP's ACJ01 case
Huh, would you look at that. Don't know how I missed it before. Thanks, anon. I just wish it was available in a different color than "90's vacuum cleaner salesman blazer"

>>4908876
This recommended list is fucking retarded. It's basically either Wacom, Samsung, or iPad. All of those are hundreds of dollars. If you're a /beg/, you should under no circumstances buy a fucking $300 tablet for drawing. I don't see why someone who can't draw for shit shouldn't give something like XP-Pen a shot, and then upgrade when they reach at least some fucking proficiency (and actually understand what would make some tablets better than others other than "it has a screen lol").

>>4908876
>Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
And this is just used with the "S Pen" or is there a better one?

Being able to pick one of these up with the pen for $279 seems too good to be true.

I guess you can't use Procreate here, what is the App people use the most? I might pick one of these up so I have even less excuses to not practice..

Probably would only use it for sketching and line art.

>>4926292
not saying the list is good, but who said it’s strictly for begs lol

>>4926431
Because if you're not a /beg/, you don't need a thread on /ic/ to tell you what tablet you should buy.

>>4926438
You’re pretty early, Chang. Keep up the good work!

>>4926452
>anyone who refuses to pay $300 for their first drawing tablet is a chink
>t. a Wacom employee

>>4926438
this. /dtg/ is for people who have no critical thinking ability, which has attracted /pol/-chan, the holders of less than a single brain cell. Tragic, but you should still give the mentally retarded their (You) so they feel special.

>>4926470
He'll say he isnt a shill because he recommends used products. He will then say you are a shill if you recommend used chink tablets. He is a low IQ, high functioning autist.

>>4926574
>assumes /ic/ ever did any critical thinking
kek

>>4926390
It comes with the S-pen but it has a different shape and it's actually pretty comfy to draw with. I think you can also buy a third party pen, but I don't think they're necessary, at least not for me.
I use ClipStudio Paint now, but Autodesk Sketchbook is also nice for sketching, I used that one and ibisPaint X on my Tab A.

I would also recommend a cheap and small gamepad or keyboard so you can use shortcuts.
I use a MOCUTE 052, and it's a piece of shit for gaming, but with Key Mapper it's a huge help in CSP.

>>4926292
Begs should learn with trad media so that when 95% get bored of drawing in a month they haven't donated $100 to chinks.

This better fucking work you chink shizo op

>>4926980
It will work as long as you take care of it and the previous owner didn't fuck it up

>>4926980
Perfectly balanced as all things should be.

>>4926292
Cry more, chinese idiot. Not shilling your garbage products.

>>4927024
He has a point though, It doesn't have to be chinese, but anything cheaper. If you invest a couple hundred on a tablet and you draw like shit, it's not worth it.

>>4926980
aight here's an update

had to do a Wacom Driver fix (macfag), got it working and I'll have to say the pressure sensitivity numbers is complete bullshit.

I don't notice a difference in drawing experience besides it being smooth as fuck, smoother than any screenless tablet I've used ( exception being the soft texture skin on the 2019 Intuos).

I will say that the xp pen is fine aswell but the Wacom Intuos 3 given how fucking huge it is, is very nice to draw on especially since I can draw with my arm on it pretty easily.https://i.4cdn.org/ic/1602390054596.jpg

surface is mostly good except it has 2 small spots that are scratched up; but doesn't affect sensitivity, I'll have to look into finding something to cover the drawing area ( maybe some paper? or something from Home Depot to cover it up; for more smoothness).

overall pretty good; will keep using till it dies somehow since there's no way to fix anything on it, then I'll just use my xp pen afterwards lmao, the xp pen is fine you just have to fuck around with the screw thing when you take apart the pen when it gets fucky time to time.

>>4927095
Good shit, anon! Enjoy the hardware and let yourself gmi!

Anyone getting used to drawing on smooth surface on iPad without a matte screen protector?
The paperlike screen protector really ruined the color accuracy and sharpness of the iPad screen.

>>4927406
Did you get used to drawing on glass?

>>4927095
Damn nice, I regret not buying an intuos 3 when everyone was dropping theirs for a 4 and I still was using my Intuos2 platinum. People disliked the smooth surface when drawing but not me, that glide is so good.

>>4927531
Yeah smooth is best.

The latest intuos even with the stock sheet eventually gets smoothed out but the issue is 1) gotta buy a backup pen if you want long term use cuz then shit gets hard to get later on and 2) gotta get that steel/titanium nib from that one JP site for the pro pen 2s, but like they have no stock on them anymore (covid).

I'm going to be pretty sad when this intuos 3 dies, ngl. Replacement pens on eBay costs like $100+. I bought this for 55 cad locally lol.

>>4909135
own an XP pen 12 and they really are fucking trash. I got mine out of the box brand fucking new and it had a scratch under the display and it kinda just feels cheap. Mainly because it was, I spent like 200-250 on it some time ago. It works but its not great and your screen will get scratched over time just from use. Currently saving up for a big dick wacom dtk220 unless anyone has a better suggestion that isnt chinese.

>>4928159
nobody tell him

Can I make it as a coom artist using only an S6 lite, using it to take pictures of pencil sketches then inking and rendering?

>>4928448
Maybe for a couple months? If you're planning on doing commissions to pay for an upgraded device later down the road optimized for drawing then, yes. If not, just get an iPad. It's the Easy Bake Coomer Creator.

>>4928494
Thank you, why only a couple of months? I have a small bamboo tablet but no laptop or PC, I'm deciding between a tablet or a laptop but without a desk I think I'd end up using the tablet more.
Also there's so many iPads I'm not sure which to get, though I assumed they cost more than they do so I'll look into some drawing reviews for it too

>>4928448
lol I was thinking of doing the same thing. does it cost around 280 for you as well? I was holding off in hopes that the price will drop more on the amazon prime day sale on the 13th.

>>4928573
Like I said: Optimization. Android tablets that have drawing capabilities are not optimized for art as much as for taking notes and making small edits.
It's kinda fucked but iOS has more apps and hardware optimized specifically for drawing, hence why I'd recommend it over an android at this time. Looking at the drawings people have done on the S6, it isn't for much more than sketching. Most people don't seem to render past that.

I personally own a 9.7 ipad from like 3 years ago and it still works like new. Procreate and Sketchbook are cozy to use on it and it's the cheapest/closest to an all in one.

tldr: it's not made for art so if you want the best results in the long run, dont gamble. As a coomer artist, your rendering is going to drag people in. Slimy, shiny, round; you have to be able to render those for coomer art and the S6 isn't there yet.

I want to upgrade from ipad air to pro since I feel like running into problem of lack of layers (I usually start with 3200 x 2400)
But I'm not sure how much extra layers would you get for the same resolutions in pro, would the upgrade worth the price?

>>4928159
Why didn't you return it with the scratch under the screen? Also you do understand it comes with a screen protector installed right? Peel it off and replace it. Change your nibs more often. Keep your hands and your screen clean.

I dont understand how you people scratch these things to hell. Are you letting toddlers hamfist your stylus and dig your sharpened nib into the screen? Jesus

>>4928159
Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite.

Also discard any chinks that reply to you. They hate any negativity towards anything related to XP Pen or Huion.

>>4928632
Android Tablets are more than capable of rendering. Saying more people use the iPad is not an argument.

In fact, one massive advantage Android has over the iPad is functionality to work as a windows display tablet. superDisplay is far better than anything on the iPad, and it only costs a one time fee of $10, whereas Astropad will be $80 a year when it actually comes to Windows.

>>4928159
Bro wacom is Chinese now

>>4929130
There are android tablets that have wacom digitizers too. Just something to keep in mind.

>>4929129
I'd like something I'm actually able to use as a third monitor, any other tablets? Definitely will look into galaxy s6 more tho.

>>4929444
The Galaxy S6 Lite can be used as a third monitor with an app called superDisplay. It actually works quite well.

>>4929461
Oh fuckin nice. I might actually have to buy one now.

>>4928830
The upgrade will be marginal if you get a 2nd to 3rd gen pro. Stick with the air until a new pro comes out next year. Or if you really need those extra layers right now, then you get 83 with your canvas size on a 4th gen. Whether it's worth it for you, your call.

I already own a tab s5e because i like watching media on there cos of the GOAT screen

If money is no blocker what tablet could I buy?

>>4929461
>that iddy biddy display

oh nononono

>>4929738
Wacom cintiq pro anything over 20"

>>4929803
Are you sure?

>>4929791
Nothing wrong with a small display, retard. Large is only important if you absolutely have to draw with your shoulder.

>>4929909
Enjoy your wrist while it lasts.

>>4929912
t. brainlet

avoid any huion tablet using pw507 pens

>>4929915
cope

This thread is the worst for actually figuring out what tablets are worth a fuck due to brainlets and shills. Just avoid the chinamen and do your own research lads. If anyone here knew what they where talking about they wouldn't be posting on IC in the first place.

>>4929461
Do you draw on the ipad at that angle? Also what's the arm holding up the other tablet?

>>4929959
That probably sounded smarter in your head

>>4908876
I plan to work on my ipad air for another few months or so. The resolution and pen is really damn nice. Dont think i can go back to my xp pen 15.6 pro, the pressure sensitivity and resolution felt like shit in comparison. What would be the next step up?

>>4928632
Thank you again and the anon that replied to you, I'm not decided on it yet but I'll add some 2nd hand ipads to the watch list

how's the moto g stylus or lg stylo 6 for lite sketching?

>>4930251
Intelligent and insightful and helpful comment detected. Give this man reddit gold.

Aight I'm gonna get either an S6 lite or an 8th gen iPad tonight (basically same price rn on amzn). While I furiously obsess over some minor differences on these youtube reviews I'm watching does someone wanna try and decide for me? Thanks

>>4930256
s7+ or wait for new ipad pro

Never owned a tablet, was gonna get the huion kamvas 13 but you guys seem to not trust that brand. So:
>what should i buy?

>up to 400$ preferably but I can save up more if i need to
>United States
>Display
>Not looking for a particular size.
>i tend to rotate my paper as i sketch, id like to be able to rotate the tablet as well, like i said ive never had one so im not sure what to expect

new

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