/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4904682
>>4904685
>>4904695
Are these suppose to be beg images that you want feedback or...?

>>4904682
>>4904685
>>4904695
Not true/beg/ you faggot attention whore get the fuck out.

>>4904685
this image is too powerful for /true beg/ to handle

bros... will I ever make it...

>>4904672
The /beg/s here call /int/ begs and cry when they post in the /beg/ thread. You fags deserve this.

>>4904716
bro I have been drawing for like 7 months, this entire spergout of yours is retarded as fuck

so uhhh why the segregation?

>>4904749
some /beg/ poster gets insecure when other posters, who are also /beg/ and not even that good, post their drawings and progress.
He thinks it's attention whoring because he can't tell that the drawings are actually shitty

>>4904759
pyw

redpill me on my shitty art pl0x

>>4904763
Missing palm " meat " that connects to the thumb for the hands, sorry i don't know the proper term as I am still learning.

>>4904762

>>4904766
You think you dabbing on some faggot /beg/ but in reality you're just spamming your ugly ass /beg/ art and its just as gay as the segregationists.

>>4904776
I counted myself among the shitty beg art posters you massive retard, that's the whole point and your inability to see that is why you'll never improve

>>4904759
>can't tell that the drawings are actually shitty
I can. Yours absolutely is.

>mfw thought i was a beg, but then the real /beg/gar comes along to say otherwise
BRB gonna get 5000 likes on Instagram

>>4904732
Yes you are GMI. All you need is fundies but you are already better than half of this board (which only draws porn and loomis heads)

>>4904781
Noone said you wasn't /beg/ you faggot 'reading as bad as you draw' nigger, now stop the ' le self aware for asspats' shit and go back to being a shitter in your doomed general.

>>4904759
so which one is this one?

And whats the other one?

>>4904814
This is the thread he created for "true begs". I reckon when too many people improve or become better than him, his fragile ego will force him to make yet another split.
The other thread is the beginner thread for people who wish to learn, and sometimes from the occasional decent artist who actually makes a living with it ( I like it when they post and throw out mind blowing tips)

>>4904763
what are you trying to do?

How do you do a quick sketch before trying to start on accurate contours? My proportions are way, way off if I just quickly jot down some shapes, and if I try to measure proportions of those I end up with a page full of scribbles, upon which I then have to lay on actual contours.
I've done better without any loose lines before, but I worked fairly small and now I'm trying to fill an A4 with a single subject and struggling.

need redline and coloring tips

>>4905006
You forgot to draw eyebrows and eyelids.

>>4905006
Wrong thread buddy

>>4904994
I like to place the torso first as big egg shape. It gives you direction and perspective and scale to place everything else. Some do the head first and base off that. If you are happy with torso size, place the head and where he is looki g relative to the torso. These are very light lines.

https://youtu.be/GhRYq7WTnhk

This is comic artist david finch doing hulk sketch. See how he starts and adds parts of arms and legs and keeps coming back to put more detail when happy with things? Thats the general idea.

What is the best site/resource/video/etc. to get a full 360 degree view of a young (or older) woman's head? I know I can use movies, news, porn, and youtubers/streamers to get different angles, but what are some other ways (again resources or just different professions I might be forgetting that offer a lot of views of a person) outside of life drawing? I'm most interested in getting a lot of angles of a single person so I can consistently draw them. I'm even willing to pay models for a video or pictures if you guys know where I can do that.

Pictures are fine too but I feel like video is better since you can get thousands of angles from one source versus tons of pictures

Doing Brent Eviston's course(shading fundamentals). I guess I understand how the light and shadows work but can't shade for shit and my objects don't look volumetric, what am I doing wrong?

>>4904672
I printed out some figure pictures and plan on using different markers to trace over the anatomy that I’ve learned so far to apply it to my art. Is this a good strategy you think?

im going through tone/ light and shadow glenn and gnass, and did this following their instruction.
how did i do ? what do i need to fix ?

>>4904751
handbro you're definitely not /truebeg/, you can even post in /draw/ if you ask me.

>>4905134
good shit

>>4905134
Not /true beg/

>>4904751
absolutely based

First time rendering and trying to adapt to a small wacom intous from traditional. What should I work on in general and what are the best resources?

>4905167
Poor bait

>>4905167
lol

I'm trying to use construction but it never seems like I'm doing it properly. I had to do a lot of adjustment after the construction phase.

>>4905154
lmfao, he's literally following a guide in order to learn.

seems like there's a reason you're below even other begs

>>4905206
That is fine. as long as you repeat the same process over and over you will get comfortable with it.
Most likely those mistakes/ make are the same every time so make note of them and when you do another study take your time and focus on the part you are bad at.
Good luck !

>>4905225
Sounds like good advice, thanks anon

fan art i made

i realized i actually enjoy mindlessly scribbling cartoony things

that is all bye

>>4905345
Hey that's how all pro artist started, they did art because they enjoy it.
maybe start the day with just " mindlessly scribbling" whatever you want. look at other artist work and what do you like about it. would you like to add that element you liked into your art ? do some research on the subject and learn it then apply it into your scribbles.
repeat this process and your scribbling will become a finished artwork you enjoy doing!
now some subjects ( anatomy, construction ) will be harder and more frustrating than others but with time and going at it again and again you will eventually get it .
Good luck !

>>4905206
It seems that you have a problem with shading, not with construction.

>>4904743
actually there are /beg, but it seems like maybe you don't draw that much...

I usually do detailed lineart, but I wanted a sketchy look for this one. What could I have improved?

>>4904743
post ur first day comp to now? It'll be good inspiration for begs

>>4904776
not him but pyw

>>4905474
You know he won’t. He’ll get btfo’d too hard.

>>4905496
lol

>>4904672

Here’s a 10 minute study. Am I GMI? I’ve been drawing for a whole hour and want to be good enough to get commissions by the end of the year.

>>4905650
gtfo non-beg. Ur too good for us lowly scum

>>4905454
You're right. I don't know how to get my darks black enough. Is there any way to do that without going full charcoal?

>>4905650
I see some potentially, fellow phone poster.

>>4905006
I really hate it when good artists come to beginner threads just to bully us into making a /true true beg/

>>4905051
That picture creeps me the fuck out

I'm pro true/beg/spilt if it means that /beg/s can actually critiques besides " get the fuck out, lol what the fuck is up with X, good job, or absolute radio silence.

>>4905006
Still beg myself, but hope it helps

>>4905885
>gave her a bulge

>>4905899
lmao. That was meant to be pants, but I can see how you read it that way

>>4905885
>shit redline
>too terrible to even adress the hand
Don't redline people shit again you embarrassing faggot

>>4905935
What's shit about it?
Also yeah, the thumb on the hand is obviously broken, but I didn't pay attention to it as I was trying to fix the face more.

>>4905935
Redline it crab. You won't? Opinion disregarded.

>>4905006
Butt looks like a pair of boobs

>>4905006
I would recommend this facial change along with the belly changes that this >>4905885 anon recommended.

>>4906081
>>4905006
Also, there are changes in the butt you could do to make them look more booty-ish cuz they resemble boobs moreso than ass right now. Also the thumb. Thumb is just positioned awkwardly.

Final note, im >>4906081 also /beg/, so dont take anything I say too seriously but mess around with the suggestions and see if you like them is what I would say

>>4905006
Idk what you were going for with the face.

It feels so shitty to work on a study and make so many mistakes and learn nothing. I hate myself.

>>4906154
Nice humblebrag

>>4906487
>getting mogged by floating head studies
this is the best general

>>4906154
Draw more than floatling heads and you will be about learn and actually improve, you work all looks the same yet you refused to branch out and its getting to the point of ridiculousness.

Can I have some advice?
It's a sketch for my new piece, both sets of arms will be on the final one.

>>4906154
My god, stop posting so much. I'm saying this for your sake, you are obviously becoming stressed and getting a very skewed idea of how you should be improving by constantly getting garbage feedback. You should be taking time to figure out your own stuff and just be experimenting a lot, before you start trying to get lots of feedback to start polishing things up.

>ughuhuhhshshhskreeeeee

>>4905167
>wacum

>>4906504
cringe, he draws different looking faces all the time you jealous crab bitch

The other /beg/ thread seems dead...

idk how to background, plus I'm trying out new ways of coloring skin. Feedback, please?

>>4906616
GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT
NOT BEG
GTFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>4906616
Not /true beg/, out

>>4906616
GET THE FUCK OUT /INT/OID

>>4906618
>>4906619
>>4906621
What about this one...?

>>4906622
GTFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOW OR NEVER, FUCKING STOP

>>4906622
You're obviously not beginner, faggot, what else do you want to hear?

lmao

Fucking intoids take over our beg generals

I read someone saying that to do more 3D paintings you should say "FUCK YOU" to lineart and, at most, only use a faint guide of the most important features to paint.
So here's my base, I didn't get to actually paint but I'm liking it so far, I think I draw above my weight when doing fanart of existing characters

>>4906616
don't draw hair strands everywhere on the hair
use less black in your colors, more saturation maybe
focus more on appealing faces
rim lights maybe if shes standing next to a light source like windows
left arm is smaller than right
draw on higher res

>>4906630
Not beg, get out

Tried drawing chair
Help? thoughts??

>>4906638
I really appreciate the actual feedback, and the face and arm look so much better wow. The lighting on her shirt is also a good detail. Thank you, kind anon.

>>4906645
Study negative spaces

>>4906647
>arm look so much better
i didnt do anything with the arms

yo what is the opposite of line art
or um, not opposite, an alternative. Like, i wanna draw like im drawing with paint, how do i call this

>>4906666
nvm i just realized that drawing and painting are two different things and I think I just ascended
I should stop highposting

>>4906645
A chair has 4 legs anon not 3.

>>4906645
Not beg

>>4906647
Stop fishing dude

Am I a retard? I drew the same character about a dozen times for the first day of inktober and they probably looked worse than the last

>>4906629
This is why we can't have nice things. Intrannies ruin everything.

being just smart enough to know how dumb you are, must be really tough.

>>4904743
Bullshit, you’ve been formally studying for 7 months, it’s clear you’ve learned a lot from osmosis in previous years.

You’re nothing but crabs who get off to peoples jealousy, you don’t give a shit about improvement or helping others, you just care about your own ego

>>4906742
projecting

>>4906705
umm

>>4906748
Why not help guide people instead of hazing them

>>4904672
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>>4904695
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>>4904733
>>4904751
>>4904763
>>4904766
>>4904790
>>4905006
>>4906111
>>4905043
>>4905051
>>4905082
>>4905134
>>4905151
>>4905167
>>4905206
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>>4905345
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>>4905650
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>>4906616
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>>4906645
>>4906752
>>4906733
>>4906748

not /true beg/ get out

>>4906756
Passively aggressively hazing them really

>>4906759
im the chair the guy how am i not beg???

>>4906756
because I'm beg myself

and it would be nice to enter a thread without all the moaning of who is and isn't beg, like how it was before when most people had the same understanding of the term beginner - someone who lacks all, or some fundamentals

>>4906111
noice

Testing brushes. It's definitwly beg if you look at the forearms though it could've been a ref to that Picasso pic

Sable brush #2

>>4906763
It’s clear that there’s some misunderstanding in this vague term.
But still, you figured out some stuff, what stopped you from improving years ago might have been the same thing that’s stopping someone now and they might have been trapped there longer than you because they never got the guidance they needed

>>4906778
Ughhh I'm referencing doonesbury too but added some goofy lips

Good stuff guys

>>4904763
Work on line control, next time draw using as few stokes as possible
I don’t recommend trying to redraw your work, just move onto something new

You know what /beg/ threads need? Threadly homework

>>4906798
Will you assign some teach ?

*sits in backward chair*
*chews gum thoughtlessly*

>>4906781
if I see something that I know about and can help with I'll mention it

but thats why it's nice to have a large range of begs isn't it, that's my point with people complaining and claiming people are just here to show off.

>sketch with a default SAI brush
>looks like shit
>try using a one of those scratchy texture brushes
>suddenly I'm a tumblr artist with at least 20k followers

>>4906807
Some stuff is at a certain level where it’s clear that these threads can’t help them
If you’re at that level why are you even posting here

>>4906815
what brush

Here's a fish what that I'm doing for inktober. I am already very late but I'm only going to have time to finish and ink it tomorrow. Tear me a new one in the meanwhile

>>4906831
It is a better idea to just pick a few things you like from the prompt list, and draw them in advance so they are ready to publish in the corresponding day

>>4906831
You’re drawing something everyday. Don’t plan towards stuff that will take more than that

>>4906759

>>4906830

>>4906829
>Some stuff is at a certain level where it’s clear that these threads can’t help them
I simply don't agree, it's very rare that someone posts work here that has zero or even few fundamental issues, just because YOU can't spot them and give advice doesn't mean other begs can't.

>>4906847
actually I used the wrong texture here
try Broken Ground for maximum "become internet-famous through low-effort sketches" energy

>>4906865
Idk once something reaches the level of appealing but also isn’t just a face or a simple cute drawing I don’t think it belongs here

>>4906840
Normally I have a lot more time, but the first of the month is always a huge pain.

>>4906748
ftfy

>>4906897
not at all accurate

>>4906908
100% accurate. There is at least one example like this in every beg thread.

>>4906865
Talking with a lot of artists I still meet very experienced people who are insecure about their art
It’s honestly comforting at first
But after a while they just become insufferable because it’s clear they just want constant validation.

>>4906918
>>4906916
>>4906881
Ah well, I guess it is better for you guys to have your own thread

I know it sounds like a humblebrag but can someone please critique this? The other beg thread missed it entirely. if im just true beg its ok too.

>>4906918
>mfw im a professional who has been drawing for 15 years
>mfw i still post my art on/beg/

Would like some critique, this is the first thing I've drawn and rendered in almost two years

>>4906953
I mean if you’re a beginner in some areas but are capable of creating good stuff on others post the stuff you suck at not the stuff you’re good at
I see a lot of people who are good at drawing faces but avoid bodies because they’re scared of sucking at bodies
Like shit nigga way to miss the point of the thread

>>4906982
You make the sketchy look work but it’s probably worst at the shoulders
Improve your line dexterity with the first half of lesson 1 of drawabox
Hand is also to small and perspective is off but I think u know that
Focus on the construction of those parts and really don’t be afraid to have those parts overlap
Stop being afraid to draw the other hand

>>4906748
based
>>4906897
cringe

>>4906975
What the actual fuck, pyw

>>4906897
>day 3121 stick figure
This hits close to home.

>>4906748
Kek

>>4907031
Pyw

>>4907074
Had this conversation a few /beg/ threads ago already

>>4907149
>humblebragging intoid: episode 9239312

>>4907154
the work is /beg/. Look at the torso and its non-structure. look at the clothing and the way it bends.

anyone can help me with understanding shading and finger (and hand) anatomy? I started this pic related, and im not sure if im shading right. I have a hard time understanding 3-d space. Program i am using is Clip Studio Paint.

>>4907208
Those are some fucking weird looking teeth anon

>>4907232
what? oh I just boxed the sections of the finger....

I tried drawing a giant tree. It looks more like a mushroom cloud. :/

>>4907276
i tried turning it into a mushroom cloud in ps

>>4906734
who the fuck is osmosis

>>4906865

>>4907168
He's to shitty to see the begness of it

>>4907208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX0N3Aj3VCE&t=512s&ab_channel=S.MichaelHampton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAq9ia4aI64&t=150s&ab_channel=BeccaRand

>I have a hard time understanding 3-d space
do yourself a favor and learn perspective
https://drawabox.com/

is Kirby so easy to draw that drawing him will teach me nothing?

>>4907661
You wish

howd i know which way is the vp? also does every cube on a page have its own 3 vps?

>>4907754
Wth is going on in the image? Are you just confused about perspective? Not all cubes have 3 point perspective. It depends on the image.

>>4907762
yeah im just practicing 3 point, the vp going down and to the right is fine and then im confused with the other one because i wasnt sure which way the vp was

Would people make fun of me if I shared this on my social media?

>>4907762
like here for example which line is correct the red or brown line?

>>4907776
Well the problem you’re having is that you. For some reason, have 4 vanishing points? I’m not sure why you don’t have a horizon line either? Technically the blue line is “correct”, but you’re still going about the drawing in a silly way. Have you read up on perspective at all? Or you just that confused by it?

>>4907789
>Have you read up on perspective at all?
no :( i just draw faces and thought id dabble in some perspective, so i watched the DAB video

>>4907789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlJ6rwj3PKg

this is what i watched

>>4907790
>>4907794
Tried to watch this and was grating af. Even speed up the vid. That’s 20 minutes of bullshit when you could have drawn that box in 5 minutes with proper perspective. And that box doesn’t even look too great. I don’t know why this DAB dude is so popular here, but he’s not really helpful imo. Just learn perspective bro.
William F. Powell‘s Perspective book is super short and easily digestible. Or just any perspective book from the art book thread.

>>4907794
>this is what i watched
>watched
Anon
Do you know how to read?
don't just watch the video, read the instructions
you are rushing and you know
https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/1/wrongdirection
https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/1/drawingthrough
>Digital
Nice straight lines(Freehand)
Nice draftsmanship kek :^)

>>4907829
>https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/1/wrongdirection
>https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/1/drawingthrough

these are what i needed thank you anon!

>>4907828
i will check out this book as well thank you guys

>>4907828
>Tried to watch this and was grating af
you could have drawn that box in 5 minutes with proper perspective
KEK
22:53
https://youtu.be/7MV-bJz1dcw?t=1373
intuitive perspective >>>>>

>>4907849
What? What’s your point here? You wanna waste time and do “intuitive perspective” when you don’t even know the basics of perspective? Be my guest tho, stay eternal /beg/.

>>4907855
>you don’t even know the basics of perspective?
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/6
KEK

>>4907661
draw kirby in different angles and make him be on model every time

>>4906972
Unappealing

>>4906972
Don’t draw the teeth like that, it looks terrible. Only draw the bottom and top parts of the teeth, don’t draw the line that connects the top of the tooth to the bottom unless you’re trying to make a character look ugly or put emphasis on the teeth.

https://youtu.be/pvCQ5un6WLg

>>4907775
Probably not. It has a vague appeal,

How do I draw without getting aroused??

I hope this isn''t the wrong place to ask.
Would anyone be willing to break down pic related into simple shapes please?

How to give volume to the body, my hatching is pathetic and lackluster

can I have critique on this? besides the misplaced eyebrows/eye

>>4908415
ree

>>4908416
im curious do you have non stylized art?

I tried drawing my raccoon waifu as a human. It was a bad call.

>>4908421
how about draw the fucking hands

>>4908416
anyone can draw a cute face
how about draw the whole body, if you're gonna do shadows like that actually fill in the entire shadow instead of having so much contrast, and stop fucking phising

>>4907828
for me DAB's structure worked for me and a lot of people
not every resource is equal for all types of people. sucks that DAB didn't work for you but glad something else did

>>4904672
I am embarrassingly bad at gesture drawing (this is the hampton method). I realized I don’t know bodily proportions as well as I thought but another huge problem I had was the midsection. I just don’t know how to connect the arms to the midsection (and bend the arms), or connect the legs to the midsection and when I do it just looks like a giant cluster fuck of curves. Anything I should do or learn before trying again would be very helpful because I’ve tried gesture for a while and have just never been able to get the hang of it. It feels like the only art concept I’ve struggled with extensively

Still stuck into cube people hell and failing

>>4908431
how long have you been drawing? what are you using?

I don't post that much at all but I did post about 4-5 months ago when I started taking art more seriously. The image I posted back then was the coloured one in this post's image.

Back then, I asked whether there could be any solution to the problem where I felt my drawings were a little stiffer, and a nice anon told me that I should focus a bit more on gesture and trying to convey more of an action with my characters.

I'm using this picture because both took me the same amount of time. I haven't improved much in hands, but at least I'm drawing them now.

Does this drawing still look stiff? Other than the hair, have I fucked up anywhere with the head etc? How can I make it more appealing?

Kinda wish I had more time to draw in the last couple months, but finishing my degree was hell.

>>4908423
I’m sorry. I don’t know expertise was required to participate in this /beg thread, you fucking nigtard.

I remember seeing a video of some chink talking about grinding hundreds of pages of hatching, anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>4908446
>I’m sorry. I don’t know expertise was required to participate in this /beg thread, you fucking nigtard.
sorry no one wanted to stroke your ego shithead

Is there a special trick to painting realistic or is it all mind-power? I spent a lot of hours already trying to recreate the scenery in that photo but I ran out of brain RAM with those few rocks and herbs.
Breaking it all down to little shapes and values... yeah it has to be it, no shortcuts, but it's fucking hard AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA At this rate it'll take me 12 or so hours and it doesn't even look exactly like the picture MY GOD I'M A BRAINLET I NEED BRAIN MUSCLE

>>4908432
>What are you using
Bic crystal pen in stock printer paper along with fineliner for those black cubes. For faint sketch lines I use cheap color pencils because they are easy to buy.
>How long have you been drawing
2 years and I'm still fucking /beg/. I hate myself and my shit brains.

>>4908424
ehh what's phising? I draw bodies shitty face here but thanks

>>4908420
yeah kinda when I draw from life and stuff

>>4908490
okay now ink it

>>4908465
Just get the big shapes down accurately. start with a good silhouette, and break it down to two flat shapes, one for light and one for shadow.

>>4908503
it's not ready practical on loose leaf paper

>>4908522
maybe you don't belong here since you're just here to phish

>>4908092
FAP before you draw

How do I know if i'm considered /beg/ or not on here

>>4908530
nigger I don't know what that means

Drew this today.

spent the day feeling some forms

>>4908445
>>4908582
I guess the phrase /beg/ just doesn’t fucking matter anymore

>start to practice instead of watching another teacher video
>actually become better

>>4908583
we need /kindergarten/

>>4908598
I’ll take it. Whatever allows me to get critique so I can improve

>>4908598
>>4908583
I'd take /creche/ if it meant I could get feedback rather than ridicule.

>>4908583
Nigga i'm trying to get completey the fuck out of /beg/ and been busting my ass everyday since I know I still got a long way to go. Stop talking like you NGMI and put in some damn effort like the rest of us.

>>4908541
what are doing to learn animals, that bird body is nice as hell, and im liking the picture overall.

>>4908633
>Nigga i'm trying to get completey the fuck out of /beg/ and been busting my ass everyday since I know I still got a long way to go. Stop talking like you NGMI and put in some damn effort like the rest of us.
wow dude looks like you reached your goal

>>4908633
>put in some damn effort like the rest of us
Yea I already fucking do. I draw everyday for hours at a time. I’m most definitely doing my part. I’m not the one posting high quality art on a true /beg/ thread when I know damn well there are other threads for that kind of stuff. Go to the draw thread or regular beg thread but this thread isn’t for people with a skill set like yours, no matter how high or low you think that is

>>4908642
>>4908583
>>4908633
Cringe

AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEE IM KNEEELLINGGGG /INT/ SAMA STOP SHITTING UP OUR THREADS WITH YOUR SUPERIOR FLOATING LOOMIS HEADS PLEASEEEEE I /BEG/ (you)

>>4908698
>/int/ purge of the /beg/ scum
All according to keikaku...

>>4908592
not /beg/

>/int/ shitposting on /beg/ constantly
>Everyone to busy arguing against them
>My post gets ignored and recieve 0 critique whatsoever
>This has happened in the last 3 threads
Where can I start posting to actually get critique?

>>4908745
If you post in the next ten mins I will crit.

>>4908767
>>4908431

>>4908431
Pretty decent sense of form. Start learning anatomy by first learning the skeleton and then the muscles and how they attach to the skeleton.

>>4908782
is a crit really needed when you're comfort zoning in the mid layers of sketch hell?

>>4908465
Just take a break Anon.

I've been drawing for almost a year now.
Am I pretty much doomed at this point?

>>4908465
Calm down Anon, I think the answer is that your values are too bright compared to the picture and the overall contrast is weak. The more you can handle the values correctly the more realistic your picture will appear.

Here is a quick ovepaint to push the contrast a bit towards the dark at places where it needs to be darker.

>>4908791
No you are not doomed at all but you unironically need more fundies. Anatomy and light knowledge especially.

>>4908783
Thanks. Will work on that.
>>4908786
Yes. When posting finished stuff people tell me to work on fundies. I don't see why then fundies shouldn't be critiqued im the same vein, if anything correcting glaring mistakes now will make everything down the line better.

>>4908791
Ok, but have you been studying?

Working on lips

Daily grind

>>4904672

>>4908960
NOT BEEEG LEAVE

>>4908966
i can never tell if these are jokes anymore or not and i know im being baited im sure but these faces are severely beg

>>4908976
Are you fucking serious? The standards of some people are insane here

>>4908980
What standards are you talking about pray tell, this cesspit is a shit flinging hellhole sometimes

THANKS FOR THE FEEDBACK GUYS
I THINK this is detailed enough. Staring at it and real life, I realize I could spend hours adding more and more details to infinity but honestly, what's the goal? I think I already accomplished something nice... though I dunno.
I'm a /beg/ trying to make art that doesn't actually look /beg/, maybe this is polished enough that it looks like legit art?

I know I'll color it, grayscales are supposedly easy to color

>>4908980
What is your cutoff for beg? Is it like, you just draw the same loomis face ad infinitum forever and ever and ever but really badly? Because these are beg. Quite a lot of these posts are beg and you're just calling them out like an autist. Just because an artist is better than you doesn't mean that they're not also beginners.

>>4908980
god i really really cant tell if im being baited, but yeah these are just some standard face sketches

i went to draw and found this face in 5 seconds to show you a head drawing that is just out of beg

>>4908960
good shit bro, on the right track

>>4908976
>>4908960
>these faces are severely beg
how?not baiting
Whats wrong witth them?
>inb4 loomis

>>4909003
Loomis

>>4909003
well its not like theres anything crazy wrong with them but theyre just too simple and basic to say NOT BEG, theyre just some face doodles that anyone can achieve with a few weeks of head drawings

>>4908984
>I THINK this is detailed enough. Staring at it and real life, I realize I could spend hours adding more and more details to infinity but honestly, what's the goal? I think I already accomplished something nice... though I dunno.
Yeah, you did well Anon. There is no real need to make the background even more detailed that will run into composition issues that the background is actually more attention grabbing than the subject, which is I would assume the girl in this case. It is already feels like that but it is still okay. You could put more details on the girl and add more contrast to her a well. I mean if you think about it the farther away you look the less details will actually be visible and contrast will slowly fade and wash into single colors.

Good job still tough.

>>4908960
I'll give you a positive comment anon, I really like these faces remind me of the Hunter x Hunter and Chainsaw Man manga. See the guy at the center? The one to his left AND the one to his right feel like characters I could have already seen there, you reduced real humans to lineart pretty nicely.

>>4909012
>a few weeks
talentfags out

THIS THREAD IS NOT /BEG/

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE YOU FUCKING INTOIDS

>>4908955
Stop rendering the faces youre not practicing portraiture

>>4909015
Ohhh I had thought about the background and the girl blending together at one point but then I forgot.
Here's the original painting that came out THE COLORS LAYER IS MY NEW RELIGION, EVERYTHING GETS SMOOTHLY PAINTED

>>4909074
And here I burn the colors a bit to make her stand out more.

>>4908960
If you think you're a beg why are you drawing anything stylized?

>>4909040
cry more loser
this is our town now

>>4909078
yknwo what anon this isnt bad, its cool to see an anime style painted, good job on completing a piece

should i bother with the last 2 lessons of drawabox

>>4908938
Cool, keep going.

>>4909078
nice color choices!

>>4909046
I know, it takes like 30 seconds, I just like practicing faces even if it's just a few strokes

Here I blindly draw this shit in a last minutes without even thinking straight.

Today I finally began using my osu! tablet for the thing its actually meant for

>>4909078
How long did it take you to finish that piece anon?

>>4909171
Yeah but 1 they're fucked. Don't practice bad habits
2 you're drawings are too small to render anything there

>>4909274
you're dumb

>>4906778
I think your expressions are good

You need to draw at least 200 hands, no sarcasm. They need work and the only way to improve them is to not be scared of drawing them. I think once you have that you can focus on something else. Hope it helps

Im really struggling to improve at my figures and feeling the forms. This is some practice but I think I need to do what some other anons are doing and just draw a bunch of boxes like a sperg.

>>4909328
top looks good
bottom, draw bigger. focus on gesture

>>4909078
FUCK YOU /INT/CEL

i have no idea how to draw gesture, i've been trying to understand it for weeks but it just doesn't click. i end up drawing contour lines. vilppu and michael hampton don't make any sense to my brain.

when you do 3 point perspective, do 2 of the vps always land on the horizon line?

>>4909519
Seems so

Have any of y'all experimented with 5 point perspective? I can make some basic cubes with it but I haven't been able to work figures into it. Would love to see some attempts from y'all.

>>4905082
Never have a dark shadow directly against a bright point, there should be some transition. You’ll never see that in real life.

I tried inking that fish from earlier. I think I rushed the linework a bit too much. I might have to try it again later when I get to work on the next few prompts.

Singles decide what body part I'm practicing.
Hard mode: no genitals

>>4909612
elbows

Any critique on this Sketch?

>>4909612
Anus

>>4909661
Great job anon. The legs of big robotnik guy are different breadths (leftmost leg should be skinnier to match the right or vise versa).

There is a tangent where the spike on sonic's (is it sonic?) back where the spiky thing exactly aligns with the elbow and it makes it look like his arm may be coming from his back. I'd move that arm pose a little.

>>4909519
>>4909525
lines only vanish on the horizon if they're parallel with the ground.

>>4909709
think youve just made this even more complicated , could you please please draw an post an example

>>4904672
Pic looks like he's carrying the weight of the whole world on his shoulders...someone set him free please

>>4909722
ok after more reading this makes sense thanks, for anyone else struggling this picture has helped me

>>4909735

>>4909612
>>4909697
I’m expecting some delectable anuses from you, anon.

>>4909493
I’m the same way anon. I posted some gesture earlier in the thread but didn’t get any responses unfortunately. I think gesture is just something that takes time to get used to and understand. From what I’m looking at maybe you should be more loose

>>4909493
These are much more in the vein of construction than gesture. Try to break things down to literally just motions - not even volumes. Don't try to get a lot of perspective into it (VERY few wrapping lines are enough).

Start with around 10 (or fewer) very long, flowy lines - it should take less than a minute when you're up to speed (but if you need longer take it). Try to find the longest line that flows through the pose and get it first.

Gesture can build in complexity until you have 2-5 minute "quick sketch" drawings which depict certain anatomical landmarks, basic tone lay in etc. but the root of gesture is understanding the flow of the pose. Exaggeration is encouraged but not required.

You do NOT need to be able to recreate the reference image from the gesture. At most it should be clear enough that someone could be told to "pose like this" and understand vaguely where their body parts should go.

>>4909770
Not that anon but thanks this is helpful. Should I learn more bodily proportions and how limbs work to do better gesture drawings ?

>>4909773
Proportion and anatomy are pretty low on the scale for plain gesture drawing (they're crucial for "quick sketch" style longer drawings but that's a different topic). You can draw things WAY out of proportion and still get a sense of weight, movement etc. from the drawing.

That said, a basic map of crucial points on the body (bony landmarks such as the acromion processes, sternum, dimples of venus, ASIS points on the pelvis, etc.) is super helpful to understand what you're seeing. There are systems such as Reilly abstraction etc. that sort of connect those points with a pre-defined set of lines that help navigate the body, but those are more useful, again, in a quick sketch scenario.

Eventually you will 100% need to learn proportion, structure etc. to APPLY your gesture drawings by building them into constructions (mannequinization) but for the gestures themselves they're of secondary importance.

>>4909315
>You need to draw at least 200 hands, no sarcasm. They need work and the only way to improve them is to not be scared of drawing them.
Yeppers

Hey guys, I wanted some advice for this drawing. I like the way it looks but I have the impression the hairs just look like a brain, and I'm not sure if coloring it will suffice. Also the eyebrows and eyes feels too simplistic. Finally, I don't really know how I should draw the mouth. I'm curious to know your what you guys think

>>4909839
To be completly clear, this is just a tracing of pic related, I'm just messing around

>>4909839
Putting multiple dark lines next to eachother creates a texture. The way that you did it DOES look like a brain to me.

Learning to use lines the right way to create the right texture is one of the biggest parts of inking (which is essentially what you're doing here).

You need a lot more time / finesse to make it look like hair (but don't try to draw every hair strand or anything).

>>4909839
To clarify my point, here's a quick take of a small section of the drawing. I used flowing, converging lines (paying close attention to overlaps) to create a texture that is easier to read as "hair".

>>4909839
instead of drawing hair you are drawing the sculptures interpretation of the subjects hair, use actual life for reference

>>4909883
Thx Anon for the times you took to draw and write, it will help me a lot

>>4909914
Yeah I know, but there is something captivating with sculpture and this style in general that I don't find IRL. And I feel working with this pieces of works will be better for me to improve than real people, but I will try in the long run, I promise

>>4909271
>>4906630
That's the first sketch, it took 1 or 2 hours. After posting I worked on trying to lightly color it another 3 hours, went to sleep 6 hours, woke up, converted the colors to grayscale since the the tones were a disaster and worked on it.. Around 13 hours. I was really focused.

So it's 18 hours.

If /int/ want to be here, they need to participate in using their increased skillset to critique work for /beg/ so that everyone can improve

>>4909991
Some don't think they're good enough to critique in detail and nobody wants to hear " read the sticky " which is honestly the best possible advice anyone can ever receive

Bros, what the fuck is a texture?

>>4909991
To be fair it can be a little dull to give the same advice over and over and have begs go "Why do I need perspective? Why do I need construction? Japanese artists don't need any of this they just SOUL" and shit like that.

There's a guy in all these threads posting the same hastily drawn portraits on tan paper over and over and over and just flat out ignoring every ounce of advice anyone gives him.

I still try to do a few redlines a week but it is extremely tiresome to help people who don't want to help themselves or are looking for some magic bullet talent pill.

>>4910030
Is this from Uzumaki, where the father burns all those spiral statues?

>>4910025
>>4910032
Then go to /int/. I'm not against /int/ being here as a hard rule but if you aren't contributing and helping /beg/ then it's just a takeover. If you want /int/ then go to or make /int/ (I know there was one once, not sure if it stayed) or even just drawthread.

please someone recognise who it is

>>4910056
Naaah, not really. I made it myself from imagination. It's primarily based on Legend of Zelda. It's like one of those temple entrances from the first one. Only it's on an island like WW and it has Majora on the front.

>>4910064
I give people encouragement all the time and offer advice on what little I can. The answer is not /beg/regation, that's a useless cope. I think people wanna jump the gun and make quick gains without putting in the effort. Same people getting anally butthurt when they get ignored, it feels like. Some spergs are developing some weird entitlement, like they feel they should be rewarded with an ass pat for every little scribble they make just because they put in 400 hours drawing a box and can't draw anime the way they want

>>4910068
Is it Chris Redfield

>>4909991
/beg/s can’t improve, it’s a permanent condition. If you cannot figure out why you suck you aren’t going to make it. No amount of outside help can fix the ngmi here.

The best thing is to tell them they suck so they won’t hurt their themselves trying and not getting anywhere. You think every successful artist posted their dog shit in a /beg/ thread before the made it? You think some advice they got from a /beg/ thread caused them to elevate their craft to the pro level, or do think they had talent and found their own way.

Don’t kid yourselves /beg/niggers.

>>4910286
Nah this is sincere cope. If you're not making it out of /beg/ that's on you my man. I think it's fair to say there are a LOT of people in here that don't want it bad enough to succeed, but a few do.

>>4910318
You reading comprehension sucks ESL-kun.

>>4910270
>Chris Redfield
no :(

>>4910327
No I read it just fine. It's projection.

>>4910318
>don't want it bad enough to succeed
There's your problem and the source of the butthurt. Not everyone is trying to "make it" financially by chasing this wild goose. Some people just draw as a hobby and enjoy improving and occasionally helping others.

>>4904672

>>4910351
There is no butt hurt, but a lot of people here absolutely do want to get good and make art a serious part of their lives. I'm not talking about making it financially, I'm talking about achieving from a skill perspective (and regardless of how good you actually intend to get, the path is the same).

>>4910381
>(and regardless of how good you actually intend to get, the path is the same).
So you agree the thread split is retardation?

>>4910387
I don't actually have an opinion on that, I like to come in the beg threads and redline people that seem to really want to improve. It's motivating for me to be able to see the same mistakes I was making in the past and help someone out with what I've learned since.

I guess I don't begrudge anyone for wanting a place oriented to the BEG beg level of art, considering people shit all over sincere beginners asking sincere questions everywhere on /ic/ (although I don't know that a new thread will change that).

>>4910407
Part of that frustration comes from people asking the same questions and bypassing the sticky which holds many answers, they'd rather get a customized answer catered for them instead of searching and learning and EXPERIENCING for themselves.

Help on getting this, Im doing lots but I cant make a good side cut and my dividing lines are misplaced

First time actually doing lineart + color. Any advice?

>>4910501
not /beg/
>>>/asg/

>>4910501
Fix the right eye, hairline and eyebrows are too high up, strand on the left is going too far up and it exposes the incorrect hair follicle placement, make it end earlier like the one on the right to retain illusion

>>4910503
Oh shit, you right, thanks

>>4910503
>>4910505
cringe

How to get to a Go Nagai level as a /beg/? by this I mean, a decent enough level to work on a comic that should be stylized enough for it to function, making sense?

>>4910570
comic artists don't need to really excel in any area. frankly you'll see that most cheat
However, they often have very strong fundamentals
but anyone of note no matter the skill level or style has been doing it for YEARS. Especially the cartoonists

>>4910644
unlike concept art, there are no super genius kids of comics.

>>4910644
Comics are not my end goal but other than writing those are my only two options right now.
Now, I'm aware it's not easy at all, the experience, taste and storytelling is what makes it, and I shouldn't try to rush my training, just wondering how to get there
I just want decent presentation for a prototype, think about his Devilman manga

>>4910500
draw a shit ton of boxes. drawabox is the best place to start for the absolute beginner not loomis. Do the first three or so lessons and then ride the loomis train

>>4910570
Having a decent understanding of construction and perspective I guess. tkmiz is also another example, he was a hobbyist before he got published

>>4910651
comic writing is still very much a form of writing and your first story is guaranteed to suck. you only get better at it by doing

>>4910682
Oh no worries, I'll do lots of vomit drafts to polish that story into decent or maybe even good
>>4910680
Very well then thanks

>>4910644
>comic artists don't need to really excel in any area.
wrong.
they need to be good at telling stories.

Inktober #3: Yuki-Onna
Very unhappy with this. What could I improve?

How do I do gesture?
All my gesture drawing just look like Picasso stick figures

>>4910849
no, they usually work with someone who's good at telling stories

>>4910754
>Oh no worries, I'll do lots of vomit drafts to polish that story into decent or maybe even good
>he thinks drafts count

>>4911057
hey thats kinda cool
but i'd say practice drawing s's and c's when you warm up

Where do I put the eye within the eye socket? It's obviously not taking all the space inside of it but then where does it sit? Exactly in the center?

How am I doing?

Just the muscles of the thighs seem to not be enough to desribe the actual shape of a human butt. What else is going on there? I mean I know it's fat but are there any refs for me to see where exactly does it sit and how creates the actual shape of the butt? I can't find anything.

>>4911312
Just google cute thicc butts

>>4908955
More practice. Top three were the ones I started with - spent a bit more time with them, but didn't like how they turned out, so I did faster practice and it looks better, I think

>>4904672
True beg here, just bought s6 lite and did a sketch for fun.

How do I go about coloring cute loli stomach?
I rarely do color but I wanna get better at this. Normally only do sketches, but I wanna get closer to finishing a piece.
Should I do some stills or continue drawing human skin?
I'm using krita.
I'd appreciate it if someone has any resources on practicing rendering.

Where's the new beg thread

>>4911803
New thread >>4911864