/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4899019
Every good artist.

Fisher

>>4899019
>>4899111

ehhh one day i will be like them
i still cant feel it yet..

Whoever drew this.

>>4899255
I’m feeling it
I’m feeling the form

>>4899259
Good, good. Let the form flow through you.

Every cross-hatch is a wireframe here

James motherfucking Gurney

>>4899019

>>4899019
>feel the form
>oppic is a rendermonkey
ngmi

>>4899405
That's.....not what a rendermonkey is.....

>>4899405
>Rendermonkey

what the fuck does this even mean? bashing on an artist for having good control of values and form? lmao

>>4899265
I can't... I can't feel the form, master, the blank canvas... it's too heavy!

>>4899405
>I hurd funi wurd.

>>4899444
yes it is
>>4899465
the type of person that is only good at rendering at halfass all the other fundamentals aka art for normies

>feel the form
>so far only formlets posted
Yikes

>>4899623
You're not helping lol

>>4899019
What that stupid meme even mean?

>>4899019

>>4899633
feel the form refers to being able to imagine what is drawn as if it were a three-dimensional object. Now the meaning was distorted a little

>>4899019
>>4899255
>>4899375
>>4899389
>>4899623
if you have to put values in your work to feel the form then i have bad news for you

enter

>>4899638
Trying to learn from him still feels like entering a cathedral for the first time.

>>4899647
Low IQ post.

>>4899768
t.rendermonkey

>>4899647
you could say the same about cross contours, so vilppu must be a hack too

>>4899638
keane is somethin else sometimes

>>4899776
cross contours need a good understanding of the form you are drawing, vilppu is a living master, only a brainlet would compare crosscontours with values

>>4899405
>>4899647
trying to force a meme i see.

>>4899019
felt
>>4899111
not felt
>>4899255
felt
>>4899362
felt
>>4899375
good but not felt
>>4899389
not felt
>>4899623
not felt
>>4899638
felt
>>4899651
not felt

Hope this helps you

>>4899019
>artists that feel the form
I do.

>>4899799
Thanks anon

definitely feeling the form

>>4899799
Who are you tell? Pyw for credibility lol.

>>4899845
write that again but this time without memes

>>4899862
That again

>>4899799
>>4899862
Pyw is a meme because you have nothing to show?

>>4899831
FUUUCK I'M SO LONELY AND HORNY I JUST WANT SOMEONE TO LOVE FUCK SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>4899898
Ok you can only communicate through ebin memes gotcha. I think you’re a terminally online person.
Hope this helps

>>4899939
He is right tho. Nobody can tell if your opinion is credible or not. Tough luck big guy.

I can feel the form in my head, but it looks flat when I try to put it on paper. Or the sketch is alright and the lineart isn't.

>>4899389
Never thought I’d see the day when I would actually want to fuck a Goomba

>>4899019

Claire Wendling

>>4899623
that is trash bruh

>>4899799
Please explain your criteria.

>>4900115
Why is trash? btw because is not anime is not a valid reason.

>>4899799
My big dick in your ass? felt

>>4900111
I think this is the first time I see someone name her i'm this cesspool of a board, based, redpilled and great taste, good artist always mention her when comes to "feeling the forms".

>>4900120
BECUZ ITS NOT ANIM- oh damn you got me :(((

>>4899019
Chris Sanders

test

>>4899019
Yusuke Murata

>>4899644
What’s the best way of practicing and developing this ability? Is it literally just getting really good at breaking things down into 3D forms, ie construction?

>>4899019
Hiroyuki Imaishi

>>4900155
Construction is a big part of it (understanding boxes, spheres, cones - and where all these shapes relate in regard to proportions of the human figure). When you practice gesture drawing you'll get a natural feeling of the form and how the body works by seeing the overall 'rhythms' of the body and seeing all of its parts work. You can think of construction as the overlay on top of your foundation, your foundation being gesture drawing.

>>4899019

>>4900171
Lmao, looks like a gummy bear with down syndrome.

>>4900120
Not that guy but it’s pretty flat and there was an opportunity to make use of the window lighting but nope just boring rim light.

>>4900171
You didn't post the best image but this guy indeed understands form better than any artist posted in this thread so far.

>>4900179
Is it just good control of soft and hard edges
gradual gradients

>>4900185
He can do it without values too. He's just good at both.

>>4900188
Yeah I see what you mean even with just line work he adds weight to fat and skinny forms

>>4900179
>>4900171
Lord forgive me but, sauce?

>>4900356
Tis a dark path you walk brother

>>4900356
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/207762

>>4900356
Go back
GO BACK

>>4900356
Good, let the coom consume you.

Kafun, or as I like to call him, tableguy with better taste

>>4900444
Why can't you toxic fucks compliment anything without putting someone else down?

>>4900179
It pains me to see such talent wasted on drawing disgusting furry trash

>>4900444
what the fuck are you smoking to compare this to tableguy. One draws thicc anime girls on clip studio the other draws skinny robot girls with ink pens.

>>4900489
>t.tableguy
>>4900490
Kafun draws alot roboshit and his lines mimic ink pens. The comparison is more than far.

>>4900516
Meant for>>4900445

>>4900013
Im not interested in being credible in the eyes of /beg/s. My opinion stands on its own, you’re free to choose to heed me or not, if you don’t you do so at your peril.

>>4900356
please think of your soul anon

This guy has definitely felt the form before.

>>4900516
>>4900444
be honest, are you actually tableguy fishing for complements by calling yourself out and then posting these lumpy hags?

>>4899638
Damned good fucking artist right here

>>4899782
>cross contours need a good understanding of the form you are drawing
...as opposed to values?

>>4900489
ummm ackcschooyalee when japanese people do it it called kemono and it’s cool

What i'm noticing so far is that no anime artist is feeling the form, while westerners are.

>>4900116
Perceived volume, weight and pinch-stretch relationships. I also think strong shape language derives from feelingthe form

>>4900684
So your criteria is just a bunch of concepts you don't understand but enjoy regurgitating anyways? Pretty cringe bro

>>4900685
No, my criteria is a list of fundamental concepts which have consensus approval among the masters of form-feeling, a group I belong to.

>>4900179
is there a retard’s guide to value? I don’t understand why his look so good and mine look like shit
every book I’ve tried just tells me to keep light and shadow separated, but I don’t understand how to determine the value of a shadow relative to the light or halftone
I’ve seen some anon here saying the rule of thumb is halfway to black or whatever the darkest value in your value range is, but that doesn’t seem right

>>4900699
Sure you do, post your work or eat a dick you larping fuck

>>4900522
kek retard

>>4900673
Anime is just very advanced symbol drawing, they go out of their way to avoid learning fundamentals

>>4900722
>>4900741
You’re very upset, i get that.
Perhaps post quality next time, yes? That way I won’t have to hurt your (not form) feelings.

>>4900638
>>4900516
you guys are fucking psychotic. kafun draws better than most artists alive so I dont see why you'd bring up tableguy. their styles and subject matter have nothing in common

>>4900754
Their style is identical

>>4900714
Have you tried to google your problem? Because it sounds like you haven't. There's plenty of fantastic guides on values on youtube.

>>4900779
Not really

>>4900754
Dude you have just shit taste if you think that guy is good, but does that surprises me? of course not, you are a filthy weeb therefore you have all senses twisted by animu.

>>4900745
>Anime is just very advanced symbol drawing, they go out of their way to avoid learning fundamentals
Look at the figure who is the focal point here. To call "perceived" 2D forms "symbol drawing" is absurd. A proper understanding not only of the box. contours of the face and its planes need to be understood to construct a face in pic related - but anatomy as well. I immediately go to the eyes on the main figure - since they are 3D spherical forms, with wrapping forms around those spheres applied in perspective (the iris and pupil). The only reason we see eyes as "2D" is because of the simplification of the eyelids, lashes, eye socket and so on and so forth. Knowing this entire head is a box in perspective with other forms that twist/turn, change shape, etc. may prove a challenge to some anons - but that is exactly all part of "feeling the form."

>>4900673
It's the opposite for most commercial art. Anime tends to have form, while most western art is flat. The latter became particularly common in the 90s, when they started animating more shows in the US, and needed to cut costs. Prime examples of flat art styles that have influenced most contemporary western artists are Bruce Timm's Batman, Ren and Stimpy, anything Calarts and pretty much every Nickelodeon show. You can also see it in most of the later reboots of 80s cartoons. It's all flat, simplistic shit. Other examples are The Simpsons, Family Guy, Bob's Burgers and pretty much every cartoon aimed at "adults". It also goes for the vast majority of strip comics (with Calvin and Hobbes being a rare exception), and a very large chunk of story based comics.
The few western styles that have some form are the generic Disney/furry styles (which these days are literally based off 3D models), and a handful of the more talented superhero artists, who are quite rare. Even the stuff in the OP, which has an excellent sense of form, is heavily influenced by anime.

>>4900779
Yes, and I found nothing of use. I highly doubt there are “fantastic guides on youtube” that explain things the likes of gurney don’t

>>4900779
googling value ranges just gives you a bunch of math studies

>>4900516
This is the opposite of form. Form is about understanding how the lines form a shape in three dimensional space. This is the opposite. The lines are all over the place, and the curves even go in the wrong direction. Look at how the boots wrap around the legs, and how the thighs don't even connect correctly to the torso. It's just objectively wrong.
The lines are also really bad.

>>4900794
Take Sam Nielson's class on Schoolism - it's cheap and he approaches learning value in a more analytical and scientific method than most artists would express to their student.

>>4900667
kemono are humans with animal ears/tail

furry are humanoids with animal features

>>4900792
You could not have picked a worse example because that face is symbol drawing incarnate, just because it's rendered elaborately doesn't make it correct

>>4900800
Both are degenerate

>>4900800
oh no no no

>>4900803
ok blind crab

>>4900803
bruh, its anime, I hate animeshit but that one actually looks decent I even saved it because of that, do you even know what a symbol drawing is or you just like to parrot shit like an absolute mongoloid?

>>4900799
Fundamentals of lighting? I’ll check it out, thanks

>>4900754
T.dogshit taste weeb

>>4900803
Dunning Kruger incarnate.

>>4900829
>he will check the version on CGP with crap video quality, without the assigment files and without the critiques
just blow 30 bucks and get the real deal, otherwise it wont do much effect.

>>4900906
It has the assignment files though and you can't buy it you can only get a monthly subscription to Schoolism as a whole which would mean $90 at least if you want to follow the set pace

>>4900912
dude what? bro just rip the shit out and save it on your HDD

>>4900913
The existing rip seems on par with the course preview though, I don't see how this is crap video quality

>>4899111
>>4899638
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>>4900146
>>4900650
I'm feeling my form to these as I write this

Enter CHADiyama

>>4900898
>>4900783
I'm not even a fan of his style but you'd have to be on another level of dunning kruger to think he isnt good

>>4900958
I don’t think you know on what that words mean, Mrkruger.

>>4900522
I'm pretty sure I can survive without your opinion. I didn't even take your first post into consideration.
I'm just addressing the fact that the other anon is right, no matter how many posts you write. No pyw, no credibility. Sorry.

>>4900980
What the fuck are those lumps in the upper back supposed to be, traps don't bulge out that way

Unironically the drawings at the bottom of quickposes. I love gesture drawing and would love to reach this level

>>4900930
It's flat as shit here though

>>4900906
I’m not paying shit, bobby
deal with it

>>4899831
>BRAAAAP

>>4900356
Don't do it anon.It's not worth it!

>>4900971
>the other anon is right
Obvious samefag talks about "the other anon". Like pottery.

>>4901027
why is everyone on this picture white?

>>4900714
remember that the whole point of values is to represent a change in the form, look at your ball and tell me, what does that awkward diagonal represent? it's pretty damn far away from what a ball's surface feels like, you've got the right idea with the terminator and the softness, but your overall form expression is terrible

>>4901035
spiderman travelled to a post-boogaloo timeline

>>4901053
>future time
>white people still exists
nah i don't buy it

>>4901056
stay mad

>>4900356
Another soul lost

>>4901060
Mad about what? about losing whites? meh i'm neutral about it.

>>4901056
Based future

>>4899019
do you think vilpu uses a
felt
tip pen?

>>4900179
bros...

>>4900146
really good

>>4900439

>>4901043
what do you mean? pic related is how I’m seeing it
the terminator on a sphere can be a perfect diagonal, horizontal, vertical straight line so long as the light is perpendicular to the eye line and the horizon line is at the middle of the ball, or am I missing something
the two objects weren’t in the same scene

>>4901060
>based France still #1 from Napoleon's reign

VIVE LA REVOLUTION! VIVE LA FRANCE

>>4901035
>everyone is white
And that’s a good thing!

>>4900179
This is Krens NSFW side account. Prove me wrong

>>4901133
>the terminator on a sphere can be a perfect diagonal, horizontal, vertical straight line so long as the light is perpendicular to the eye line and the horizon line is at the middle of the ball, or am I missing something
this is correct but you're missing the point, whilst it CAN happen, it's reserved to very specific conditions, like the ones you mentioned, and I recommend you should try doing some renders in a more conventional perspective, just to see where you're at.

sidenote, your pic made me notice that you didn't put in any sort of reflective or ambient light, ambient occlusion, etc. your shadow side is exactly one value, and whilst these concepts are a bit more advanced, they can really help make a simple value study pop

>>4901139
you havent even seen the nsfw side account of koki

>>4901133
the reason terminator exists is because bounce light happens, if there are no other surface bouncing light to the shadow area there would be no terminator but shadow for the entire side not facing the light

>>4901139
Krenz is garbage. Don't compare him to koki

>>4901196
Koki is shit bro, eyecandy for retards like YOU

>>4901171
>sidenote, your pic made me notice that you didn't put in any sort of reflective or ambient light
I did, there’s a 5 point value difference between the middle of the shadow and the curving side planes, not counting the terminator
>ambient occlusion
it was just a sphere floating in space
I understand rendering, what I don’t understand is how to determine relationships of values

>>4901202
Cope harder, krenztranny

>>4901206
You have to fallout brudah, that is killing your sphere, like what is that jump from full light to sudden core shadow and then bounce light? like dude wtf, like bro pls grab a fucking book niggah

>>4901206
the darker the room the darker the shadow

>>4901211
>You have to fallout
fallout meaning what? googling fallout rendering/art/etc just returns me things related to the video games

>>4901221
Phoneposting, it was falloff

>>4901206
this is just getting autistic. google how to shade a sphere

>>4901171
Sauce on the Pic

>>4901364
Not the anon, but it looks like pic related. Which can be found in the /ic/ artbook thread mega link.

>>4900193
Boobs≠feel the form
This is trash

>>4900356
anon! no!

>>4900982
crabbing on the old masters never change /ic/

>>4901542
>muh old mahstuh
protip: they were only considered masters because no one knew the first thing about fundamentals back then and art supplies were expensive as fuck so there was barely any competition, 99.99% of them would be mediocre today

>>4900490
Took the words right out of my mouth

>>4901552
pyw fundie drone

>>4901542
I'm genuinely curious

>>4899019
I posted this not too long ago looking for the artist of the reference I was using.
I'm pretty sure it was this guy.
ty friend

>>4901180
no, a terminator is just the boundary between light and dark, hence terminator
terminus literally means boundary
it has nothing to do with bounce light

>>4899019
The rendering doesn't follow the silhouette, it doesn't look three dimensional as a whole, just the forms individually. It looks like seeing a normally proportioned human figure through a stylized cutout. You couldn't make a 3D model that you could pose and light in this way to make it look the same.

>>4901690
>The rendering doesn't follow the silhouette

please explain this as if you were communicating with say, a toddler.

>>4901695
The lines and the shading aren't describing the same figure

>>4899019

>>4901707
hmm, im not seeing a discrepancy.

>>4901715
It's the most obvious in the crotch and hips area of the second figure, the lines would suggest plumpness but the shading makes both the hip box and the legs look squashed flat instead of round

>>4901690
dunning K

>>4901725
oh okay, i see what youre saying now. thanks

>>4902189
Is this cubist? Probably one of the only few prices done like this that I like.

>>4902191
yep, cubism. Late/simplyfied cubism is the best. The overly messy ones are from analytic cubism, if I remember correctly. Late cubism led to futurism, which is great too, political controversies or not.

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>>4902199

>>4902185
La creatura de Americano

>>4900444
Also better skills lol.

>>4902185
las cara de estado americano oh dios mio!

looking through this thread im starting to think "feel the form" has 0 meaning

>>4902802
You probably have no sense of volume then. Sorry for the bad news, but you can still make it as a cartoonist.

>>4902807
oh please if it was about volume any hentai artist who's discovered the airbrush tool would be a master of "feeling the form"

>>4902814
what are you trying to say here? "lmao if you want volume just learn to use the airbrush"?

>>4901709
does the ass look weirdly low or are my eyes shit

>>4902821
It kind of is compared to where the pelvis is, but the pelvis length is super exaggerated.

>>4902814
>volume means using the PS airbrush
I apologize, you won’t make it as a cartoonist either.

>>4901695
Don't worry, you're not being stupid, what he said really is gibberish.

>>4901035
please kill yourself! please!!!

>>4902185
>most soulful drawing itt
>highest amount of form felt itt
>most disgusting drawing itt
i feel betrayed

Otomo

>>4900146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4AjWN6CCQM

>>4899019

>>4900930
Giga SOULiyama

>>4899623
This is bad.

>>4899019

>>4903049
oooooooo what does this button do

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>>4903063

>>4903038
i DESPERATELY need a high res scan of this book

>>4903063

>>>/d/9339500

>>4902185
Carlos nine was a master

>>4901033
>starts moving the goalposts
aight.

>>4903598
No goalposts to move. ‘The other anon’ doesn’t care to be credible in the eyes of /beg/s and ‘the other other anon’ is too deficient to comprehend the value of the advice ‘he’ was gifted with.

>>4903038
is he still active?

Chris Sanders

>>4899019
Some ratatouille concept art

>>4904012
I’m not even gonna lie I was literally about to post the same picture lmao. The concept art for Lilo and Stitch is amazing

>>4903891
yeah, on insta

Inputwo

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>>4904618
That nigga and Dean Deblois are serious soul, Chris is the reason I wanted to learn how to draw, guy is kind of underated and I dont know why, you dont see him being mentioned too often, his only sin is that he has a serious sameface syndrome, but who cares im sure is just because he enjoys the bimbo face, when he worked on Mulan he didnt do that so its obviously an stylistic choice.
good taste my niggers

>>4904632
didnt know this guy, pretty good do you have more artist similar to this you would recommend?

very worried for all these anons posting formlets

>>4900085
why are japs always so obsessed with completely overusing hue differences. this is just disgusting at this point.

>>4904642
I think it looks good and you have shit beg eyes, now back to the gaschamber you Loomis dodging crab.

>>4900126

I wonder how she's doing. A few years ago she was in a very bad state, hospitalized with kidney failure. You don't really come back fully from kidney failure.

>>4904653
she's still posting art at least

>>4904636
Twitter handles:
@andrewkmar (Andrew Mar)
@k_inouexxx (Inoue Kiyoshirou)
@OptionalTypo
@Buru_standin
@JoelJurion

>>4904687
>bad flat perspective on the stocking elipses
This is not how you feel the form, sorry.

>>4904637
>meme buzzword
>doesnt post any example
Okay mongoloid

>>4904689
the left leg is going back you absolute braindead fuck.

>>4904642
He's from China

>>4904687
this looks fucking awful.

>>4904689
>>4904718
begtards

my favorite artist

>>4904723
That guy is hit or miss, sometimes he does cool shit and sometimes he does absolute beglet crap.

>>4904723
>that face
>form
HAHAHAHAHA

>>4904723
>that face
LMAOOOOOOOO

>>4900673
Just in case you're actually fucking blind and not being a stupid shitter >>4900179 >>4900163 >>4900153

>>4904747
>>4904768
am i gmi

>>4904799
Hell no

>>4904799
No. You're a dunning kruger.

>>4904799
Is this a joke?

>>4904816
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>>4904826
aw shucks, i guess you guys can show me how to do it, right

>>4904827
Yes we can, but we won't ;)

>>4904799
right pic looks like retarded cartman

>>4904827
Let me answer your question with another question:
Why did you move the mouth higher?

>>4904851

>>4904856
What about the original drawing leads you to believe the character's head is tilted up at such an extreme angle? Why would you think just moving the lips up would be sufficient to sell the illusion of a completely different angle?
Did you try constructing anything before you made your edit?

>>4904884
>>4904856
In fact, let's simplify this:
Draw what you think the contour lines of your edit are, including the cross contour of the vertical median line.

>>4904884
she's not tilting her head but the "camera" of the drawing is at her waist or lower, i didn't construct anything because i didn't want to spend too much time on it

>>4900120
>btw because is not anime is not a valid reason
This is confusing when Disney princesses are inspirations for the way anime looks now.

>>4904891
The thing you're trying to do only works for parallel lines, retarded dunning kruger

>>4904891
>How does perspective work again?
>You just arbitrarily draw lines and make them almost meet at point, right?
Fucking retard, Jesus Christ.

>>4904891
Draw the contour lines or stfu

>>4904891
Are you the retard from that train thread from a while back, by any chance?

>>4904899
>>4904904
it's physically impossible to bend your ribcage in the direction depicted while maintaining a straight neck without it just being perspective

>>4904891
Bro...

>>4904915
Whatever you say, stupid idiot.

>>4904915
If this is an elaborate troll, you are doing a bang-up job.
But if you really think this shit, you need to study way, way harder.

>>4904915
>bend your ribcage
lmao

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>>4904928
PYW right now or shut the fuck up all of you and stop shitting up the thread.

>>4904935
>PYW

>>4904891

>>4904935
You start :)

>>4904935
>say some stupid shit
>people mock you
>say more stupid shit
>people mock you more
>"p-post your work!"
>thread isn't even about personal work
Keep going.

>>4904694
>>4904720
The elipse is non existent. This is not how you draw stockings in a correct perspective.
It's not my problem if you can't recognize the mistake.

>>4904940
Now draw the clavicles and the way the neck fits into it

>>4904942
Not that guy or an artist, just a lurker, but why can't you guys post your work? If you do, you guys would prove how right you are and further embarrass the anon, so why not do it? That anon is stupid but he was brave enough to post his work at least.

>>4904948
>Not that guy or an artist
>or an artist

>>4904948
everyone itt is a self conscious /beg/ venting their frustration with their own shitty art
then the /beg/s getting crabbed get butthurt and post in /beg/, which makes the turbo /beg/s butthurt because now they’re too self conscious to post their even shittier work, so the scream at /beg/s for posting and claiming they’re ““““““int””””” and then they make a thread for ““““““true begs””””” to post their work in, then the same /beg/s post their work in there, and the cycle continues

>>4904946
I can’t. I’m not the original artist and I barely ever draw regarding spine key points. My torso work is more shaped on the rib age and the pelvis because they have a more clear sense of form to me.

>>4899019

>>4905036
Yoji Shinkawa

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>>4905036
3

>>4905036
4

>>4904799

I don't know why people are ripping on you when you adjusted the facial features exactly where they're supposed to be. Obviously there still needs to be work done on the skull and its perspective (which is the artist's fault, obviously), but your version is still way better than the original.

>>4905070
Both are off- i cant say that one is better than other- on second only form feels better

>>4904635
Disney artists in general are cold as fuck and deserve some recognition. The way they incorporate gesture, style and a lot more makes me want to become great at drawing too

>>4904820
What the fuck is going on with those arms on the right drawing?

>>4905103
You mean shoulder part?

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>>4905103
It's the triceps contracting when the arm is extended. wdym?

>>4905115
It just doesn’t look right. It feels like something is misplaced. I especially get this feeling after looking at real references of spreaded arms.

>>4905109
Yes.

>>4905125
I think there are 2 possibilities:
1. The figures seem to overemphasize the triceps, contracting too much even in the middle pic when supposedly the triceps are stretched out thin with arm bent like that.
2. The tlatissimus dorsi is not prominent enough, which is understandable when your arms are extended further to the back, in the pic you posted her arms are spread at 180 degrees.

>>4905150
sorry I meant *latissimus dorsi

>>4899019
>OP pic has ball tits.
I never seen a confident artist depicting tits this cursed.

>>4905057
5

>>4905150
I’m not really familiar with how the shoulder works, so I’m going to outline the drawing a bit to see how it connects.

>>4905114
>far eye still bigger than near eye
>near eye still an eye width away from the nose
>mouth and nose still on different planes on multiple axes
unironically worse than the other guy

>>4904799
Not in the same style, but you get the idea.

>>4905261
Were you trying to accomplish anything with this?

>>4905321
soul

>>4905321
Fixing the face’s anatomy as an exercise.

>>4905393
And you thought you could fix the anatomy by... moving the nose very slightly? Giving her a jaw tumor?
You didn't change hardly anything.

>>4905515
Yeah okay I've had enough of you cunts either post your redline or pyw or fuck off.

>>4905658
lmfao
Man, you /beg/s are sensitive.

>>4905515
I placed the eyes on a more proper perspective, the eye closer to the camera is bigger. The nose got fix to get rid of the jarring “it somehow got stuck in the eye” case. And, the jawline was lifted up by a bit because her head was suppose to turn slightly upwards in the original piece.

>>4905688
FUCK OFF.

>>4905125
>It just doesn’t look right.
none of the anatomy is quite right.

>>4905968
Can you explain how?

>>4906195
well, even if we're just focusing on the arm, you can start by looking at the pec and the lat. neither is placed correctly, pushing both bicep and tricep out of proper alignment in the rightmost image.

the lats are pushed too far forward, making the pit of the arm look flat and separation between tricep and latissimus too pronounced. the pectoral muscles are drawn and shaded improperly, and drawn out of perspective, which is partly responsible for making the bicep too short and giving the impression that the bicep and its attachment to the coracoid process aren't aligned.

>>4905725
>I placed the eyes on a more proper perspective
No you fucking didn't.

>>4905818
Cry baby.

>>4906950
>No you fucking didn’t
Sure, scrub.

>Cry baby.
I’m pretty sure they just find your ass really annoying because you’re obviously a /beg/ hiding behind a persona.