/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4861215
traditional art will always be superior to digital.

Finally a thread for Fine-Arts. Nothing beats real paint and people who only have painted digitally have never really painted in the first place imo. This is my most recent work, oils on canvas 30x40
Please advice from a fine-art perspective.

>>4861291
This is canvas? Did you prep it yourself or varnish or something? What are the big brush strokes? Looks like gesso on masonite but obviously isn't.

It's an attractive piece from afar, but the anatomy of the face is extremely indefinite. The rendering is blurry, the skin tones are grey and muddy.

If you're just having fun, keep at it! If you're trying to get really good (especially if you ever want to sell a lot of art), you need to step back to drawing and improve a lot from an academic approach before returning to painting.

>>4861298
Thanks man, the big strokes are thick layers of gesso that i sanded a bit down to be a bit more smooth.

And thanks for the compliment from it being defined from afar, that's what i try to do, to make a coherent image that collapses in itself when getting closer. If it collapses or defragments in anyway, or changes itself upon further or prolonged viewing, then it's working for me!

>>4861291
It’s readable as foliage and human anatomy but the forms of the image aren’t apparent right away. Obviously the foliage is supposed to wrap around her face, but there’s strange moments where it’s hard to tell if what I’m looking at is convex or concave. I know the intent, and portions of it work, you just need to work on execution. Sometimes working in bigger, chunkier forms on a piece can help on pieces where the forms are much more detailed and specific

>>4861291
Draw the figure first. Then focus on the foliage. If I had to guess, it looks like you're hiding what you're bad at drawing.

>"make a coherent image that collapses in itself when getting closer. If it collapses or defragments in anyway, or changes itself upon further or prolonged viewing, then it's working for me!"

This sounds like some coping mechanism shit. Ill grant you that the thumbnail reads, but you should try to paint like you want to make some money, or else you're going to end up like Brian.

>>4861567
>you should try to paint like you want to make some money, or else you're going to end up like Brian.
bitch i make money >:(

Last oil

>>4861567
Have you seen modern fine-arts? Do you even know which painters are considered the best, not because they draw anatomy correctly, but because the painting tells a story through suggestion with form. Go look at francis bacon and tell me he should paint better anatomy to serve his sinister paintings. A good work can serve its own narrative by NOT obeying the rules. To me, drawing something "correctly" is the thing you do if you can't imagine anything more exciting.

>>4861584
you say that like the painting you posted is even remotely interesting

>>4861599
>>4861599
Well, thats an easy answer. I'm just trying to tell you where i come from, hoping to get some constructive criticism from that kind of perspective

>>4861616
Then you've come to the wrong place, there's a strange toxicity here and no one seem to know anything beyond the obvious, superficial cliches; no openness to that which doesn't fit their respective dogmas or perspectives. In regards to your painting, if you want to create a more 'fragmented' painting that looks coherent from afar, you might want to construct the figure in a similar vein as its surroundings. Avoid such solid panes of singular colours/tones, try a patchwork-like approach when the edges of the face are less rigid and defined - reduce the distinction between background and foreground and let the planes flow into each other and overlap. I'll see if I can find an example that could be useful..

>>4862043
butt frustrated low /int/ post.

>>4861616
>>4862043
This was the first painting I came across that seemed relevant, particularly regarding the negative part of the face and how its painted so that the background flows into the silhouette of the face. I find it makes for a much stronger feeling of unity, coherence and depth - hope you'll find it useful.

>>4862053
Absolutely pathetic - imagine being so reliably predictable. Provide an actual, honest thought or share some of your own work; this low effort comment is high school level at best and I am less for even addressing it.

>>4861285
>>4861291
Whining about digital in the first 2 posts of the thread lmfao

>>4861215
>In before the thread inevitably degrades to Brian shouting at everyone, because narcissists gonna narcissist.

And, Begone, CumfartI!

>>4861291
>>4861584
>>4862043
>>4862080
Kind of a pretentious faggot, ain'tcha?

>>4862093
>because narcissists gonna narcissist.
>narcissists
>brian is narcissist
>narcissism
don't you get tired of typing that long ass word

>>4862093
I'm beginning to think you are Brian yourself, narcissistfag.

>>4862106
Nope, not at all, Brian. As long as you act out here in these threads, that word will appear.

>>4862124
Shadow chasing schizo.

god i wish retardo would stay in this fucking containment thread.

>>4862126
You stop using sock puppets first, Brian.

>>4862152
Get help.

>>4861291
>>4861285
Whining about digital, you are ngmi. People in digital achieve gains much faster than you'll ever achieve in trad, kys.

>>4861291
This thread is usually attempted but goes to shit cos the mods do nothing about the bait.

>>4862394
What are the kids supposed to do? I don't even know which rules applies to this board

>>4862407
Delete all the useless shit that's idiots slinging insults back and forth. I'd rather post my crap in /beg/ as it doesn't have this problem.

>>4862394
>>4862407
>>4862413
>arguing and shitfl

>>4862394
>>4862407
>>4862413
>arguing and shitflinging
>anon posts work
>ignore it all and go right back to talking about how shitty the thread is

why do you want to be unhappy so badly

>>4862070
Thanks, this is the kind of stuff I mean. I love it

>>4861584
You're not allowed to break the rules until you know them. I remember a young transwoman from college that you remind me of. She would put less than minimal effort into her work and try to come up with excuses not to learn how to draw. Every painting was even less effort as she eventually lost all motivation to improve. Every critique turned into back peddling maneuvers as soon as construction was even vaguely mentioned. She would come into crit with a long speech prepared to defend her work from anyone even mentioning formal qualities. Guess what happens after four years of that. Guess who didn't graduate.

>>4861584
That's a lot of work to put into an excuse to not learn to draw after posting in a thread dedicated to critiquing formal qualities in artwork.

>>4862043
>strange toxicity
That's a strange way to describe formal critique.

>>4862070
I assure you. This guy knows how to draw. You would be better served learning from that, no?

>>4862351
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>>4862355
>>4862361
>>4862369
Love your art! Been meaning to try and getting into ink. What kind of pen do you use? Any tips or tricks to share?

>>4864324
I use rapidographs and a crow quill, you can substitute rapidographs for microns, just any technical pen in general. Microns are good but they have a low flow and are disposable so they fade after a couple pictures. Rapidos are incredible but pricier and if you don't use them for a couple days you need to clean them out because they WILL jam. Rotate your page a lot when you use a crow quill and study hatching methods you like a lot and just practice. Dont be afraid to hatch values in, you get very high contrast if you only hatch shadows and contours. Brush is the same thing as a crow quill essentially but more sensitive and the line isnt as tight, if you get good at crow or brush you literally never need another tool for inking lines. I just like technical pens because they stay consistant when youre hatching without any effort, if I need a thicker line I just carve the shape. If youre using a crow quill you need to use a sturdy paper as well because the nib cuts into the paper and the ink flows heavily, so I never use a crow on something like printer paper.

>>4863562
>She
>Her
Otherwise correct.

>>4863562
I know how to draw, I just graduated from artschool. I am a beginner, this is the first painting outside graduation work, so officially the first one of my career. I have still alot to learn, I don't deny that. Thank god, or else i would be finished.

An example of my traditional work. I've explored digital art and 3D and its all awesome, but I just want to make paintings that people find interesting and enjoy.

>>4865082
>I know how to draw, I just graduated from artschool
Yeah, could you PYW?

>>4861291
Painting is literally just the art of applying colors or values to a surface to depict a subject, much in the same way that drawing is using lines to depict a subject. I understand your sentiment but conceptually, digital painting and drawing is no different than traditional and the fundamental principles remain the same.

>>4864790
Thanks!
I think i'll stick with microns for now until I learn more. What do you mean by carving a shape by the way?

I did draw this a while back. I feel I'm not very good with the shadows and stuff. Like i'm never sure where to put the hatching so it ends up kind of all over the place and just looks messy and haphazard. I'd appreciate any advice!

>>4862349
great job anon

On goingz

where do you people post your trad work aside from this travesty of a dump of a calamity?

>>4865082
>I know how to draw, I just graduated from artschool
As someone with a BFA, I can assure you that graduating does not mean you know how to draw. A number of my peers were still /beg/s to the bitter end.

doing more male figures

>>4865618
Nowhere, where else is there?

Here is one of mine, haven't posted in a while.

>>4864800
Based and cispilled.

begone cucksharti

hey /trad/fags

friendly reminder that before you toss out your plastic milk jugs and red bull cans, you can wash them out then cut them in half and make palettes, water containers and brush holders!

>/trad/ thread
>weaboo retards still posting anime shit
Godamn you fucking morons, theres like 4830 thread about those girly stupid shit, please leave your filth away from here please

thank you

Ongoing shit

>>4866389
thanks for labeling them man

recent interior

>>4866606
this is great
oils? actual size?
great stylitization

>>4866612
thanks! oil on canvas.
I believe it's something like 55" wide and 22" or so long? Don't remember exact measurements

>>4865082
If you know how to draw, you should have started your painting with a drawing. Of course we know you're painting a figure, but it doesn't read with your foliage. Maybe that's the point, but out of all the anons that replied to your post, none of them think the painting is currently successful. Just paint the face, then obscure it.

I've been out of university for four years and the most important thing I can tell you is that the best thing you should have learned in college is to teach yourself. Learning from instructors is awesome, but being on your own and banging your head against your own problems and solving them yourself is where the real gains come from. It's good to be confident in your abilities because in this world you have to be, but when kind anons offer good advice with no string attached, listen. We want to see success in each other's work because it validates our own desire for critique among our peers, as fucking awful as most of them are.

Also: The language you're using might fly in art history class / art theory classes, but most people on this board have no idea what half of your terms mean and it doesn't facilitate communication. You sound like you're literally in class, trying to talk some tenured jew into giving you an A for your political leanings. You don't need to impress anyone here, just speak to the layman.

>>4865394
This guy is also hella right. Painting is just drawing with a THICC pencil.

>>4864800
>>4865765
I don't punch down. Maybe homosexuality is a mental illness, but psychology is a soft science anyways. One day you're going to have to play along so your post-zoomer minimum wage elderly care worker will change your geriatric diaper.

>>4866708
Painting is sculpting with colour, it's not like drawing, you moron.

>>4861215
>hot water instantly fixes a dent in canvas
I feel silly for not knowing that already, but glad I know now.

>>4866763
>(painting) "it's not like drawing",
>"you moron"

Good lord, I hope this is bait.

>>4866708
>I don't punch down
Stop being so fucking pozzed, dude.

>>4865448
i think you should focus on construction and make sure that your hatching is following the contours of the forms. shadow comes from form blocking a light source so work on lighting the fundamental forms (sphere, cone, box, cylinder), hatching is just creating the illusion of form with binary lines so if you understand how light, value, and form work then you just need to practice layering your hatching and line consistency

>>4866926
here are some of my older hatching heavy pieces maybe you can learn something from them. i personally learned everything about hatching from R. Crumb

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>>4866931

i painted the Notre Dame interior

>>4866975
not as shitty as your normal stuff (guessing because its mostly black and brown) but your stroke quality is still painfully amateurish after all this time.

>>4866975

No you did not, this is just a mass of dark muddy paint

>>4865477
the concept is so cool and surreal although I feel like the coloring could definitely better maybe change your mediums or technique

here is a page of my comic I posted here probably a couple of weeks ago and tried to work on the things that were mentioned

>>4866867
Nope. I don't draw my paintings, I carve them in terms of value, colour, saturation, etc.

>>4866763
The line between drawing and painting is a bit fuzzier than you think. See Sinix's "Draw like a painter" video.

>>4866926
Thanks man! That's very helpful! I'll get on practicing more. Again, thanks for the advice!

>>4866932
>>4866931
>>4866930
I'll look him up. The build up of value is really nice. All those little lines. How long does it take roughly?

>>4867281
Skeleton jelly vibes.


>>4866932
Do you have a twitter or something? I like your style.

>>4867067
youre not wrong i just really enjoy copics. i get into a zone and they do look better in person, the phone distorts colors a bit but it could be better for sure regardless.

>>4868346
Erm, nope. I'll pass since I'd rather be doing actual painting.

how's this looking

I posted this in beg yesterday but got no replies

>>4868661
because it's unfinished, get to work
you don't need feedback when you're in the middle of something, it's just going to mess with your process

>>4868673
>because it's unfinished, get to work
>you don't need feedback when you're in the middle of something, it's just going to mess with your process
Oh you re right. Didn't realize that. Thanks

>>4868387
I just looked at skeleton jelly and I really like it. Did you enjoy my comic I know it's rough and not very appealing artistically but any advice helps

>>4868384
Youd be surprised, once you get comfortable with your strokes it isnt too long, maybe a few hours. Once you start layering your hatching multiple times over large areas it starts to take a while though

>>4868387
No twitter right now, sorry.

>>4867281
the background stuff looks cool but are you planning to redo the text digitally or something? i can't read some of it lol. messy text can look good but some of this is illegible

>>4868661
>>4868673
agree, i didn't leave feedback bc it's unfinished. but so far it does look good, the different colors you chose are working nicely

>>4869223
Yeah the text was done with a brush plus i have autismo hand writing lol. For the finished product somewhere down the line I will likely just add speech bubbles in gimp.
Also I attempted a bit of color correction in gimp not sure about it though it might be too bright. Sorry for spamming my shit in the thread

>>4868654
It's alright. The body is some risk to draw and I appreciate the effort you put into the hands, but your hatching comes apart at the ends where you transition to using dots. Try leaving them with a lighter mark or using fewer than you have used down the center of the face.

Compositionally, the face being perfectly symmetrical at you seems out of place with how dynamic the pose is. It is unsettling though if that is what you're going for.

nitpicking: your crosshatching feels sketchy where you're overlapping in the neck.

The hair is quite good. It has a sense of volume and weight.

>>4866932
>>4866931
Do you lay down a sketch in pencil first before stuff like this? Do you sketch out the shading too?

>>4862279
Brian, you're the only one that needs help here

Am I gmi? I started using ink and watercolor two years ago, this one was my latest, I'm moving on to oils but all my sketches for oil paintings will be like this

Any tips for controlling values using pencil?

>>4870979
needed rubber

>>4870979
use more than one pencil hardness

>>4870750
Quite nice draftsmanship, so I think so. The detail is fairly tasteful. I get where your waves are coming from, but competing with everything else, they just seem a little lazy. I'm sure you can handle rendering some surf in ink.

>>4870979
Start light, go dark.

>>4866975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQS_BbjHZ2o

>>4870318
sketch for layout but go right in ink for all the hatching

>>4870642
I'm not Brian, you obsessive retard.

painted this plein air at a harbor

>>4873160

Begone cumfarti

>>4873160
heres my plein air setup

>>4873188
Begone cumfarti

>>4873188
It would be great if you arrived by boat, Monet-style

Brian your going to be alone your entire life.

>>4861291
What is it supposed to be? It's ugly

>>4865219
I like it

>>4870979
more than one pencil, I use 3H, 2H, F (for getting fine lines, HB, 2B and 8B(for straight black values without too much shine)

use a very sharp point via sandpaper, and cut back your pencil to expose more lead so it's easier to get at angles.

kneaded eraser tapered to a point to remove black spots or to even out values. sometimes it's also easier to use a kneaded eraser to shape blacks into lighter values by removing graphite.

start light and get darker on non-black areas. block-in the absolute black values first and use those as a starting point to push form. use a smaller and skinnier 'x' shape to add value with a pencil instead of just haphazardly coloring.

use something like the Charles Bargue plate PDF for value and form exercises. it helps a lot with recognizing the shape of form through light and how to push form with value

>>4873318
yes

>>4861576
Cool

>>4873188
Finish your paintings for once. For someone who paints so much you always have so little to show for it.

If you niggers just stopped giving the guy attention, he would just end up like the pixel art schizo.
He would have whole threads full of lazy paintings, with next to no replies. Imagine that for a second.
Now compare that with how much energy you expend hunting him down.
Just ignore him, holy shit.

>>4862365
sick. Love the use of light and dark to portray space. The motif is not my cup of tea but the execution is great

>>4865548
nicely constructed face but the colour of th background seems offputting. Finish this one, I like it otherwise.
>>4865764
great still life bro
>>4866496
I like the composition but you need more value changes to make it pop

>>4861215
Need help for pastel snow covered trees. Google lapland snowy trees to see what i want
Filters of pic not like irl

>>4874640
if youre trying to say theyve been photoshopped.. been there, its annoying, i dread having to image search for ref these days.
was trying to find a canopy bed myself, its apparently impossible to not photograph a bedroom in 3qtr view.
try changing up your search terms, either include raw, to get pure untouched images, or vacation, for amateur photos.

>>4874648
Yeah it always seems like they took the picture of the tees during daytime and photoshoped the aurora sky after, but idk how to get the shape or shading of the snow engulfed trees of lapland

>>4874648
Think i got the hang of it!

>>4873188
oh my god seeing your stuff next to reference really reinforces how little actual drawing knowledge you have

>>4861291
You're in no position to judge others. I've seen elephants that paint better than you do.

>jannies deleting posts that are literally just advising people to stop vendetta posting
Well done, you fucking retards.

>>4874703
Honest thoughts, does this look like someone would buy it? Also what should I add to the foreground?

>>4874860
put a good frame around something and anyone will buy a thing.

>>4874746
oil paint is hard enough without doing it all in one go dude.

>>4874949
This is why you practice having a good alla prima workflow.

>>4875503
Or you could be like Brian and do the same shit over and over and wonder why your art is stagnant.

I made this in watercolor and i just used on top of it digital painting for the weird tentacles/roots.

I'm beg do what do you think i've fucked up here ?

>>4876137
Only thing i see is blatantly wrong face anatomy, The skull looks added on because there are no muscles like that under it. There are some but this looks more like a skull mask, which maybe you intended then its not a problem. Still i dont like the head cause it looks like a simple oval shape done quickly, skull is cool.

Reviving thread by reposting from /beg/
The thing is finished, still want to figure out how to crop it, SELLING IT.

>>4877471
frame it and try to take as good a picture of it as you can

>>4877471
Pro tip: Bottoms of trees do not get covered in snow. It builds up around the drip edge. I know it's too late, but your trees don't really read as trees. Also, your northern lights reflection in the water probably shouldn't be as intense as the actual lights up top, and if it is, then why is the water not also blue.

>>4877471
How do you envision selling this? It's pretty much too /beg/ even for normies.

>>4876137

>>4877610
For the trees i used pic rel as reference because i wanted those polar circle loaded tree like in Lapland. Next snow themed pic i will draw normal ones. Ur 100% on the reflection i thought the same as i was drawing it, i thought if i put blue it would be too monotone. But idk how to get it darker and distort it with ripples :(
>>4877797
Fuck you fuck you fuck you... I saw a bitch in my city also do landscapes with oil/acrylic and she has less detain in her pics than me sells them for 50 dollars. Hey, shes an ACADEMIC PAINTER! Bullshit im gonna auction it 10$ starting

>>4877610
depends on the wind conditions. trees can be caked in all sorts of ways

>>4877833
Anyway here some doodles /trad/ tell me more things to imorove. The aurora came out really bad here, didnt look at references.

>>4877833
>>4877861
Wow, let us know if you get that ten bucks.

Do you do multiple sketches before the final drawing? Or keep it all on one page, erasing what's unneeded as you go?

>>4877913
Is this Little Sebastian?

>>4877610

I love shishkin so much

this was my first big-ish traditional mixed-media piece in years.
i learned a lot from it, and have a new & better one i'm working on.
sorry for potato image/color inaccuracy.
would love some critique on it, still.

>>4876137
Annihilation?

>>4878057
I don't know this movie, there is something like this in it ?

I'm making this because i'm trying to write a sci-fi script and in it at some point there is a scene where rebels come to slaughter the inhabitants of a remote village and the main character here has a parasite on his arms, so when he dies the parasite develop to reach the bodies of his fallen comrades and start to "eat" the dead bodies to regenerate the main character who then resuscitates and wake up in the middle of this mess.

did two figure paintings of a friend today for $100 ayyyyyy

>>4878672

*sigh* Begone Cumfarrrrrrti

>>4877962
yukio mishima as st. Sebastian

>>4877948
Wow good or wow bad?

>>4878672
>>4878675
>100$ for two paintings
>they look like that
fucking poorfag lmao. guess you get what you pay for

>>4879281
I gave her $100... I’m not even sure what you interpreted that as. Inb4 “Lol what a waste of money” there’s really no winning with you retards

>>4879554

you pay someone to paint them?

>>4879559
have you never been to figure drawing? if you sell the paintings for $300-$450 each you can afford to pay the models well.

>>4865394
>Painting is literally just the art of applying colors or values to a surface to depict a subject
Pretty sure it has to involve paint as well, dude.

>>4879788
don't bother. people wonder how digital art can be so "godlike" but you give those same people paint and a brush and they're completely confused.

>>4861215
I drew this pencil/pen art
named it Fraternitati Fieri Redemptio

did another portrait today

you people are all hopeless. pathetic.

Critiques welcome. I never seem to be able to get halftones right with pencil. Also, does anyone have a good recommendation for a phone app that will allow better picture taking for drawings? Mine always come out grainier and more textured looking than the actual drawing looks.

had another gay sex today

>>4880698
get well soon. thoughts and prayers

>>4879554
YOU PAID HER???

LMAO jesus fucking christ youre such a bugman cumfaggot

>>4879788
And you would be wrong.

>>4879810
And people that have only ever painted in oils are shit at digital, what's your point? All drawing and painting media have similarities to one another and skillsets that carry over from one to another, but they all have differences and quirks that need to be learned individually. This is obvious to anyone with half a brain.

>>4882230
you probably call women "femoids", calm down incel we're not all self-hating in the closet faggots who harass women to feel secure in our masculinity. Some of us actually enjoy seeing women naked and think they deserve money for working LOL

>>4882305
Not him, but i am an anon with a gf and I can tell you youre a coping faggot calling someone an incel because the reality is you are bad because you having to PAY THEM means your charm and painting skills are bad, because if they were good they would be begging for you to paint them a portrait.

>>4881644
The face is really good but the shading and texture on the chest are a bit off. The coat shadow is too simple and makes her chest look like a flat plank. Youre missing the clavicles and sternocleidomastoideus muscles should be a bit more prominent. Also the upper lip shadow (philtrum) is off (should start from her right lip bulge). Her right eye looks a bit bigger but that isnt that noticeable and the nose shadow doesnt look right, cant quite put my finger on it. Other than that its really good, the main flaw is the unfinished chest.

>>4882373
Her left eye*

>>4882361
>if they were good they would be begging for you to paint them a portrait.
they've done that too, this girl I met on Tinder, and did about 5 drawing sessions with her I just decided since I'm making money I can afford to pay her. I've only recently started paying models, before now they would just do it because they found being painted sexy. Calm down retard, in conclusion.

Anyways here's the 4th painting of her that I finished.

>>4882381
You have a thing for big beautiful black women? Or is that the only thing u can score? If what you say is true then i dont understand why you would start paying them if theyd do it for free. Seems like a waste of money, or maybe its because you wanted to make yourself feel like youre a top dog professional artists to get your mind off the fact your skill have plateaued to a mediocre level because you now live in comfort from an established income?

>>4882390
Black girls are better models to me. And white girls make me uncomfortable, they make it too sexual. Black girls are more sensual.

>>4874751
couldn't have said it better than you annon lol

>>4882381
Oof, that symbol drawing.

>>4882257
>And you would be wrong
Convincing stuff.

Reeeeeeee

>>4882381
Keep it up man, you seem to be enjoying it a lot.

>>4882381

i fucking hate your paintings so much

>>4882441
About as convincing as "pretty sure", huh?

>>4882558
Clue is in the word I would have thought.

>>4882402
Brian you will never get with a white woman will you?

Not even that ewhore you lust after still.

>>4882795
my ex girlfriend was white, and probably more attractive than anyone you've ever been with. cool your jets.

im trying to make something that appeals to the gay market since everyone keeps telling me they buy a lot of art

>>4882813
jfc
Just make some good work for once and have some self pride. Then you won't have to keep fishing for attention here everyday.

>>4882894
>Then you won't have to keep fishing for attention here everyday.
I'm literally just posting, schizo

>>4882813
brian, mate, how are you still on this board? Way back when you rejected any criticism, and looking at this post, it shows. At least
FiRez left (as far as I know). Genuinely concerned for you bro...

I recently painted this small experiment. Acrylic, 8x10. It's abstract, so I imagine some people will dislike it because of that, but I am interested in honest opinions. I like the way it looks, can't decide whether it would be worth painting a bigger one.

>>4882813
Aren't you like a balding guy who lusts after some ewhore who did cam shows?

>>4883229
no im an artist

>>4883081
it looks bretty cool close up, but the overall composition in terms of values is weak and muddled

>>4883229
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>>4882795
God damnit how do we end this shit.

>>4883303
melanin test as part of the captcha

>>4883283
Thanks for the comment.
How would you suggest I improve the composition? More contrast between the whites and blacks?

>>4883303
its just crabs

>>4883229
Yes, that's him.

>>4882381

If someone painted me like that I'd feel violated and offended

>>4883484
I’m not going to fuck you, femanon. Give it a rest.

>>4883918
cute. is even yours though? you japapnees?

>>4878383
I thought maybe it was inspired by this

>>4883938
wtf? yes, of course its mine. why would you question that? no, i'm not japanese. proud amerimutt.

>>4861567
Who is Brian? is this another meme I don't understand?

>>4884399
Annoying, sloppy artist that other annoying posters hate-stalk. Usually makes these threads.

>>4884004
>why would you question that?
just not used to seeing cool things posted in here without a word attached to them.

>>4884399
At this point I don't know what's worse, Brian or the people who hate him and can't shut up about it.

>>4884399

Lurk more than a day

>>4885892
What they don't understand is that he just loves seeing his own name. The real solution is to ignore him and he wont get his little dopamine hit from the attention.

>>4885892
the haters, absolutely. they drag the thread down severely. it wouldnt be as bad if the mods did anything.

making some drawings in other artist's styles to try to sell. hopefully just having "van gogh" in the title is enough to sell it

>>4887483
Giving her a goitre won't help.

Continue my Serb?

Continue my Serb?

brian the trad thread is the last hope for this board

>>4890103
When in doubt, start over.

>>4890115

>>4890116
Its that bad?

>>4890157
You've hardly started, so why not?

>>4890157
You were obviously not convinced by it yourself.

>>4868661
I think it’s perfect how it is, so don’t let people tell you to finish it when you don’t want too, you can really do anything.

>>4873188
I love it

>>4873160
This looks really nice

>>4874860
Please don’t sell it.

>>4877861
I like these doodles
It says I’m a cute person and I like to draw.

>>4878672
Wow
>>4878675

I love this style I think it’s really nice

>>4883081
It looks nice

>>4883918
This is cool and really nice

>>4879851
I like it anon, it has that medieval style

latest work, pencil

Am I better than cumfarti??

>>4893535
No but if you practice mindfully you will be in less than a couple of months. Brian is mostly hated for his toxic personality and sense of superiority despite not improving over the past 10 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU66lGDTWjE

>>4893598
Better pic, holy shit 10 years? I saw he went bald

I want to get into oil painting.
Any tips for a beginner? I got some chinkoid brushes and 6 basic colors, turpentine and oil but I couldn't find cheap canvas/paper.
Is there anything I can get from Amazon?

>>4894701
>tips
find something to paint. paint it. dont get down from what doesnt work, just keep trying.

thoughts?

>>4893535
you will literally never be better than me lol

>>4893535

that's an extremely low bar to set

>>4894701
When you're just starting, I think it's helpful to make a chart of different mixtures of your paints like in the pic I posted.
As far as medium goes I'd mix one part thinner and one part linseed oil. Use it relatively sparingly, I normally just dip my brush in it and then dip that same brush into whatever paint I'm using and mix it around a bit.
Buy some acrylic gesso (golden brand is the best, but store brands like blick or alt alternatives are fine too) and coat watercolor paper, cardboard, masonite, practically whatever with it a few times and you have yourself a solid painting surface. You can also sand the surface down a bit if you want a smoother surface to work on.
I'd also recommend going to the hardware store and having them cut you a 1/4" pieces of glass at 18"x 24". Put some white foam core underneath it and duct tape the edges and you have yourself a great palette. Much cheaper in the long term than those shitty pieces of palette paper too.

When you're just starting, take it slow, enjoy mixing the paint, getting a feel for what colors do what. Try to break down complex forms into simple shapes, and then ask yourself what color those shapes are. I'd look at some Euan Uglow, Fairfield Porter, or Felicia Forte to see how they break down what they're seeing.

Most of all keep painting, but also keep trying, but also be sure you're practicing and not just mindlessly pumping out paintings.

Cheers

>>4894871
He already is
>>4894951
Euan Uglow
That man took years to complete a simple still life, he was austimi over measuring tiny bits of this and that. One figure painting took 20 years, FFS.

>>4895005
>He already is
i honestly dont get it but whatever, I'll just keep posting. Idk why you guys enjoy being embarrassed

>>4895005
>Euan Uglow
>That man took years to complete a simple still life, he was austimi over measuring tiny bits of this and that. One figure painting took 20 years, FFS.
You state this like it's a critique and not an observation
The time in which it takes a work to be completed is important to you?

>>4895018
We're embarrassed about you
>>4895046
Yep, in another 20 years Uglow will be utterly forgotten as his work is boring. Nothing interesting has come from English art since Seago.

>>4895080
lol bet, I'll @ you in 20 years

>>4895080
>We're embarrassed about you
whatever, get off my board

>>4895181
>get off my board

What a loser

>>4895304
>phrase everyone on 4chan says
>when I say it it's cringe
hm

BEGONE, CUMFARTI!

>>4895322
It’s not something everyone says, it’s a meme and when most people do say it they’re mocking regards who say shit like that. Don’t you retards remember people spamming “get off MY /b/“ years ago

>>4895362
shut up retard get off my board

>>4895322
Your pictures are like self reproducing lice.

this is my second ever oil painting, took me around 6 hours so far
any pointers would be appreciated

>>4895080
>his work is boring
I disagree, his work is very interesting in the way he handled precision yet simplified color shapes.

Been working on this on and off for 3 months now
I used to produce so much more
Now life is busy

Brian I think your art has this creepy honesty about it. Nudes painted through the male gaze that objectives and comes off as creepy. You are not elevating the nude but objectifying in a creepy way. Am I right?

>>4894871
Heh at least im not bald
Believe it or not this is the 2nd portrait i ever did, and the 3rd pastel drawing i ever did, all that in a month, why are you the same for 10 years?

>>4894894
Its k, i was jk

>>4895689
It’s less that I paint women like they’re cheap objects and more that I paint women like they’re exotic. Like they’re designer pets, or some rare antique object. I objectify them, but as the most valuable object in the world.

>>4895735
Which is I guess contrasted with how disposable the paintings are. Like a slapdash sloppy approach to painting something more valuable than the painting itself

>>4895511
And yet the only famous living British artist for putting paint on canvas is Vettriano. No public has heard of Ug, and he will quickly be forgotten for his tedious chalky London scene bore off art.

>>4895732
>Believe it or not this is the 2nd portrait i ever did, and the 3rd pastel drawing i ever did, all that in a month, why are you the same for 10 years?
how do i even respond to this level of retarded. you've drawn three things in a month and suddenly you think you're on par with the guy that does a painting every day? Stop enabling this dunning-kruger

>>4895322

>muh I'm better than you
>no, me!
jesus christ, how old are you people?
shouldn't you be focusing on improving instead of comparing yourself to others all the time?

>>4895843
you're assuming these people are actually interested in painting or improvement

>>4895843
im more annoyed its turning the thread into shit again, it had avoided it for so long until that fucker starting slinging crap.

>>4895499

Use bigger brushes at the start, group your values more. You autistically painting every little brick is not making the picture better.

>>4895757

For the amount you paint you have extremely little to show for it.

>>4896448
all i have to show for it is knowing how to paint. I know you have loftier goals than that, but I'm an artist, not an e-celebrity. Stop shitting up this thread

>>4865219
fucking amazing

Since there's no Supplies general, can someone help me get an idea of how to put together a nice oil painting starter kit? I only painted with acrylics, watercolours and gouache before but I have no idea how to start with oils, nor what I need.

>>4895807

>>4897214
I think you should just jack off instead of painting

>>4897014
What do you want to paint?
'Zorn' palette for skin/portraits/figure (indoors); Ivory black, yellow ochre, cad red medium and titanium white. Maybe cobalt or ultramarine blue for colours you might need.
Landscapes a 3 colour palette, eg, permanent alizarin crimson, cad yellow and French ultramarine blue.
Flowers will require more pinks/magentas/purples.

>>4897214
Hideous, no wonder no one else wants to post in these threads. So off putting.

>>4897014
from an old syllabus

>>4897247
ok

>>4895742
retard

>>4897306
I like this one

>>4897317
Thanks, had a long canvas lying around and found the reference picture today

>>4897305
they really make you buy a quart of gesso for 1 semester? 12 oz lasts almost a year for me, and I paint way more than I did in college.

I'm trying watercolour, why is it so hard.
I need advice.

>>4897320
the assumption is that you'll be using it in other classes and just in general as an artist even after school

>>4897336
stop trying so hard, stop trying to be precise, stop trying to choose the right color or to be exact
just lay that paint on
if it looks like shit that's normal, part of the process, smear it, add more paint, keep going
the painting is only over when you either give up or are satisfied

over time, you will discover things that look good, and what you can do - make notes

>>4897308
Trite response.
>>4897306
Proved me correct again.

>>4897386
>Proved me correct again.
just curious which ones in the thread are yours :)

>>4897386
>Proved me correct again.
maybe you didn't hear me, i said i'm curious which ones in the thread are yours :) i wanna see

>>4895571
maybe you're spending too much on details, you are on the right path but need to do more faces to really get good at them. otherwise I love the composition and the idea, you will make it anon

referenced an old study and altered it a bit, still struggling with faces / painting in general

>>4897611
faces can be solved with more drawing, painting in general can be solved by spending more time painting/mixing colors

>>4897893
paint over those trees again, otherwise looks good

>>4897812

>>4897812
begone cumfarti

Had a lot of trouble with clouds, but I think I've finally made some progress. Now I just have to finish the rest of the painting.

>>4897336
This anon is right, >>4897357, don't try to force it and let the water do the work. It can be frustrating but that's because water is such a volatile medium for painting, the quicker you become aware of this, the easier you will be able to adjust to it.

It helps if you try to paint from loife and with a limited palette. Takes away some of the stress in my experience. Invest in good paper too and don't be afraid to practice on it.
"Normal" paper usually doesn't like getting wet, it will work against you when you are trying to learn, that's why I think it's essential to work with good quality watercolor paper. The paper will be more forgiving without it buckling and pulverizing.

>>4898334
I like it so far anon!

>>4897214
disgusting

>>4897305
>>4897246

Thank you brothers <3