/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4882977
Does literally ANYONE here own an S7+ yet? I'm still waiting for impressions.

>>4882977
sweet another thread to get shitted up, noice

>>4882977
Remember to discard Chinese shills

>>4883008
remember to get of of wacom shills

>>4883012
Wacom doesn't profit from used product sales, idiot.

>>4883016
ok shill calm down

>>4882977
>What should I buy?
-$500, hopefully less
-Chile
-Display, portable, can connect to my laptop
-I want it to be portable so I can draw comic pages while sitting at a café or something like that, but that it's compatible with my windows laptop for when I have to do heavy digital painting that requires some editing that's easier to do with mouse+hotkeys
-I'm using a non display huion which keeps disconnecting non stop

>>4883028
Get a Galaxy S6 Lite, or just a regular S7 if you can find one within your budget.

superDisplay actually works seemlessly with Windows as a display tablet.

>>4882977
The other thread is on page 2 you buffoon. Didn't the mods tell you to stop making duplicates and wait until page 10? Fucking hell do you ever learn your damn lesson?

>>4883033
Anyone else tried superDisplay?

>>4883057
The gimped version.

>>4883033
thanks!

>>4883003
There's simply no reason to buy any samshit when the Apple iPad Pro 12.9 is so much better in every single way that matter.

I like CSP and I want to get an S7 but subscription model is cringe ugh

>>4883166
You get the first 6 months free.

>>4883164
The Samsung S7+ objectively has a better display. That absolutely does matter.

>>4883166
It is. If you want EX features it's expensive a fuck, even if you already own the EX license on PC.
Pro is like $25 a year. I find it the better option, unless you work with multipage comics. then you will have to open the specific page's file.

Is CSP EX the version on Android?

>>4883231
No

>>4883072
Its a 50% off sale that happens regularly. That discount is applied to the EX version as well. I dont really get why you're calling Pro the gimped version anyways unless you're an animator or you're self publishing a comic book. That and the shiny packaging 3d preview shit. Thats the only difference lmao. Pro is just fine for illustrators.

Did Wacom ever do a 3D pen that works with the older Intuos Pros?
I really want the 3-button pen but I can't be arsed to upgrade just for that. I swear they used to do another one.

>>4883003
>>4883172
My sister does, she's a comic artist
Greatly prefers it over her iPad, always complained about the latter straining her wrists and she's drawing all day with her Samsung

Personally dislike the pen, idk if there's alternatives though

>>4883178
Unless you do animation I really don't see the point in getting EX.

>>4883292
Nah
Older Intuos Pro only works with the
Pro Pen 1

Grip Pen

Classic Pen

Airbrush

6D Art Pen

>>4883166
It's available as long as you use Galaxy Devices bro. I use S6 Lite and I even know someone who uses it on Tab A8

XPen is pretty good ngl

>>4883050
The rules also say no racism outside of \b\ but we haven't had a non xenophobic thread in months, so fuck off and answer the questions if you have an answer or leave.

I bought the Wacom One three four days ago and believe me, this has been the worst drawing experience I have ever had on a graphics monitor.

>>4884134
Compared to what?

>>4884248
My last tablet was a Cintiq 21UX dtk2100 and believe me, the grip pen is light years of distance than the piece of crap of pen that the Wacom One uses.
The PW500 of Huion is even better.

is an ipad 8+pencil decent enough for a beginner display tablet?
>>4884134
what went wrong?

>>4884261
Why not get a used Pro 2nd Gen instead? Bigger and less parallax.

>>4884259
>>4884248

Oh right I read that wrong lol, I thought you said "the best" and was really surprised.

One uses the same pen as bamboo and yes it's literally worse than huion.

>>4883313
This is a good alternative
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/tablets/staedtler--noris--digital-samsung-pencil-gp-u999eripaab/

>>4883313
>straining her wrists
tell her to get a pencil grip

>>4883313
what's wrong with the pen?

>>4884504
I found it too small, strained my hands to use. She thought it was great because it was so light
>>4884394
The issue it that the Apple Pencil was too heavy for her, she's really weak and dainty though

>>4884313
3 years old and the used 256gb models i saw at $500-600 have screen issues (scratches on screen, bright spots, etc)
for that price range i could get a brand new 128gb ipad 8+pencil or a cintiq 16.
is the parallax of regular ipads that bad?

Pirate version of SuperDisplay when? The app doesn't have regional pricing. Any /g/fags here wanna try and crack it?

S4 or S7+?
I can get the S4 for 300 which is nice I guess but I'm just wondering if the bigger size really makes a difference. Price isn't the problem. It's more of a "is the extra size worth it for drawing" deal since I've never drawn before.

>>4885493
Size absolutely does make a difference. It's probably one of the most important factors when it comes to display tablet choice.

Some people in these threads have said they prefer smaller size though, so make of that what you will.

>>4882977
thoughts?
https://twitter.com/vpandav/status/1307122552544915457

>>4885493
If price isn't a problem, get s7+

>>4885573
>>4885511
Do I need the keyboard too when drawing for the apps? I tried an iPad and had no problem tapping the shortcuts on CSP but just overall did not like the iPad so never bought one

I'm pushing towards the bigger one myself for note taking during work things too but just wondering if the bigger version actually is that better since I've only started to draw

>>4885640
What makes you think you should ever draw small, or draw small as a beginner? Drawing small as a beginner encourages bad habits like chicken scratching and it will also hide your mistakes.

>>4885640
Keyboard isn't mandatory, however I also use targus flip cover + keyboard for my S6 Lite which I mainly use when working on other things like writing and shitposting. However, S7+ has a lot better UI and it has full desktop mode. You'll like it for different reason: protecting your S7+ and the pen and getting that full experience of desktop mode. Maybe you can set some key binding on CSP? Not sure but once again if money isn't a problem, I'd buy it on a whim.

>>4885795
There is literally nothing wrong with chicken scratch.

>>4885874
Post a good example of a finished illustration, where artist was chicken scratching.
Pro tip: you can't.

>>4885958
And how would that invalidate what I just said...?

>>4885964
You can't make anything look good with chicken scratch. That's what's wrong with chicken scratch. This technique is a waste of time, just like explaining this to someone who doesn't understand arguments like that. Fun at times, yes, but in the end it's a bad habit, which you should avoid.

>>4885974
>You can't make anything look good with chicken scratch
Debatable

>>4885985
Then post a good example of a finished illustration, where artist was chicken scratching.

>>4885989
>inb4 he moves the goalposts again

>>4886005
That's not chicken scratch, that's hatching. Read sticky.

>>4886054
>post an illustration with chicken scratch
>no not like that!
Epic.

Just admit you have no idea what you are going on about and are just parroting some meme you heard a random nobody on this board tell you even though chicken scratching is done by industry professionals all the time.

You are dismissed.

>>4886063
>he doesn't understand a difference between chicken scratching and hatching
>still insists on participating in a discussion about it
Yikes. I even told you where you could find more info about that and yet...

>>4886063
it's not, you fucking dumn nigger!

Recommended settings for a Deco Pro Medium?

Should Windows Ink be enabled?

>>4886423
No big difference but the krita devs say Windows Ink is inferior to legacy api so I disable.
Pressure curve is very subjective and their pens are very differently tuned.

If you have issues with SAI go to help-options-tablet api

Also if your pen is way too stiff or has a pressure spike - pop off the rocker button and tweak the tuning screw inside. it's right under the button

>>4886423
Windows Ink the new windows native pen API made for all pens. Wintab is an API designed by wacom. IMO Windows introduces delays and I'm pretty sure it causes the weird line blobbing to happen more frequently. I don't know how XP-pen's wintab support is but worth trying with it turned off

indian animation student
~500$ budget in USA money
no digital experience
what do you guys recommend?

>>4886756
Intuos Pro Medium.

If you want a display, see if you can get a used 22HD for that price. For display tablets, you really want to go as large as possible for animation.

>>4882977
Is the difference between the Samsung tab s7 and the s7+ that important?
I'm choosing between the two and I don't know if it's worth to spend those 200 more for the plus version when the normal version can be enough for drawing in comfort

>>4886899
The main reason to get the S7+ is larger size. Makes it easier to draw with your shoulder for sketches, and more drawing room is just handy in general.

The S7+ also has an OLED screen, which means it has the best display of any tablet on the market, with the best contrast and color range. Not that big of a deal for everyone, but still.

what kind of screen is ipad pro anyway according to market standard?

>>4884134
I keep telling you fuckers to avoid that piece of trash and buy literally any other display on the market but nobody listens.

>>4883003
It's great. Two things, though.
The pen is good, but the pen button sucks. It's small and low profile. I often have to look at the pen to find the button - not good.
If you're coming from desktop, be aware that csp nipware drains the battery like it's nothing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wacom/comments/iy8gve/wacom_has_messed_up/

literally buy any of the old ones
I'm still using my wacom bamboo and going strong. working profesionally too

I bought the wacom intuos S some 3-4 month ago and have been using it everyday since to try to draw le cute animay girl. I think it might be too small (It's basically the size of my hand) but I was wondering if there was a way to make the input 1 to 1 instead of the tablet adjusting for screen-size difference since my main issue is having to do the same line 1536484 times to get it right (probably because of the aformentioned tracking adjustment).

>>4887473
I see other threads also talking about Wacom having shitty customer service.
How you going to charge a premium and not fix shit?

>>4887559
In your tablet settings set it to proportional to screen size and not full active area

>>4887621
Oh I see my issue with wacom going 100% unresponsive isn't anything new. Cocksuckers.

>>4887621
>How you going to charge a premium and not fix shit?
By knowing that freelancers as well as studios are too poor to afford a lawyer.

>>4886063
jesus you are such a retard. that is not chicken scratch ngmi

>>4887625
That sounds smart, I'll try it when I get home but is there a way to make it so the area on the screen you draw on is exactly the same size as the active area on the tablet?

>>4884134
>>4887312
Wacom One is one of their best selling tablets.
A lot of people are falling for the hype of an 'affordable' Wacom

>>4887621
Does this person realize they literally use glue and tape to hold together $1400 smartphones? And hot glue is a type of plastic that has a "low" melting point. Just because it's a cheap material doesn't mean it's bad, it's even used a lot to seal some types of electronic components.

Anyway, they should have gotten the best buy warranty, worst case they usually replace it for you. This is just how the state of the market is, and the chinks aren't really making it any better. Too bad there are no real competitors like a jumbo sized ipad

>>4886063
Bruh thats not cs...

>>4886063
lmao tf you talking about, that's proper hatching and outline, not chicken scratch.

>B-but everybody is wrong, except me!
sure anon, keep living in your fantasies.

So does the Surface Pro still suck? Because it's that or else having to get a laptop and an ipad since I need actual programs on it only on Windows

>>4887990
What

>>4887857
My dude hot glue is nowhere near the same as the glue they use to hold electronics together. By the way hot glue does have a low melting point and you know what that means? When your tablet gets warm the stuff they hot glued together falls off

>>4888021
Hot glue ranges from around 120C to 200C depending on the particular hotglue, probably closer to 120C for the kind found in home. if your electric components are already >100C they're reaching their limit because most are rated somewhere between 85C-105C. I put "low" in quotes because most common plastics start melting at over 200C while hotglue is almost half that.

>>4888051
It doesn't have to completely melt to start falling apart.

What the fuck is Chicken Scratching ????

>>4887990
I have a pro 7 and it's pretty good for sketching in krita ('it's all use on it) but get the pen nib replaced with the 2h one, the default one is way to squishy but they sell a 3 pack so you can try all them out

>>4888108
Read sticky.

>fall for xppen hype
>return it and go for huion
they never learn

>>4888589
The innovator 16 is the worst tablet they've made and many people have been warned about that piece of shit. Their other tablets work wonderfully but that one is 100% trash tier.

>>4886063
Thats not chicken scratch you subhuman imbecile

Jesus.

>>4884259
is just the same pen from that cheap wacom. Im only one tablet that can use my Intous 4 pen.

>>4883003
bumping this

Anybody know if the S7 can connect to a pc, like a cintiq?

>>4889070
You can get an app called superDisplay. It's paid, but at least you won't get jewed by subscriptions if you prefer to use CSP

>>4888589
XP Pen and Huion are the same company.

>>4882977
>Used Cintiq 22HD - The only worthwhile large display tablet

So when you see
https://estore.wacom.com/en-US/wacom-cintiq-22-dtk2260k0a.html
vs
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/Wacom-Cintiq-22HD-Pen-Display-KB-046-WA.html?campaign=affiliate/tag&utm_source=pcpartpicker&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=affiliategateway

Why $1000 difference?

>>4889645
Is it the same product but with shortcut buttons?

>>4889651
The Cintiq 22 (2019) has the same Pro Pen 2 as the Cintiq Pros, and as good a screen as the 22HD. There's really no reason not to get the 22 (2019) if you need a large tablet. Wacom also sells refurbed ones on their store for $800 with a 1-year warranty.

>>4889344
No XP-Pen and UGEE are the same company.

>>4890044
No, Huion are in there too. All Chinese companies are the same, because business is centralized under the government. There is no "competition" there.

>>4890179
This anon is right. Wacom and Huion are the same company. If its made in China its huion.

Should I get the ipad pro or wait for the new ipad air? Someone is selling me their ipad pro 12,9 at kinda the same price as the upcoming ipad, so I'm not sure which would be better for drawing

>>4886005
linefags on suicide watch

>>4886063
LMAO ngmi

Is surface pro's drawing quality really that bad? I've been using a pro 4 for more than a year now and really love it so far. I'm now consider upgrading to a 7 or book 3 but heard lot of bad things about it. Never tried using ipad or samsung tab though, is it really that much better?

>>4892215
It has line wobble. If you try to draw a straight diagonal line slowly without autosmooth, there will be very noticeable wobble. Even if you draw fast there's a bit.

If you're happy to use autosmooth to correct it, you have nothing to worry about.

>>4891657
Get the pro. You'll get more storage and more ram out the gate along with a very slightly bigger screen. The new air just likely comes with 4gb of ram.

>>4890179
take your meds

https://petapixel.com/2020/09/23/microsoft-surface-hub-s2-is-a-22000-85-inch-touchscreen-that-runs-photoshop/

if only my tablet was this big

I just bought the S7+ and I'm still learning to draw, like literally still on the basics of construction lines.

How does it work with a tablet? I'm guessing the best way is to switch between layers, one with less opacity for the construction lines?

Alright, your shilling worked. Are you happy now.

I just bought a fucking iPad(not the Pro) off amazon. Hope I dont end up regretting this shit but I really want to try out procreate and see what the hype is all about and why everyone on twitter uses it and wont stfu about it.

>>4893026
>not buying used
You should already regret it. You gave money to Amazon and Apple for no reason.

>>4893028
There weren't any more used copies.

>>4882977
>Budget
150 dollars maximum?
>Location
USA
>Type
Either as long as it doesn't wobble
>Size
Not huge, 13 inches? I'm used to my Parblo
>Previous equipment
Parblo A610 that burned into sludge in The Fire™ R.I.P Pablo you dindu nuffin
I just need a tablet that has no problems

>>4893103
with that price, XP-Pen deco pro is alright desu
I used to have it and it works, the pen malfunctioned once but they sent me a new one under warranty

>>4893032
use ebay you idiot

>>4893026
They are pretty fucking good there's a reason they're a meme.

Make sure whatever you got is compatible with the pencil, and that you bought the pencil.

>>4893324
do you think ipad pro will get bigger?

>>4893026
he fell for it

>>4893103
>The Fire
Is this an American thing or are you in the part of the country thats literally on fire? If the latter, dont bother with a tablet.
Any screenless is fine but an Intoous or Deco Pro should be fine

Anyone have pen reccs for Surface Pro 1/2?
Alternatively, would the Raphael 520 work on a Pro 2?

>>4882977
I was just a few days away from getting an XP-Pen or Artisul; any extra explanations as of why they should be avoided?

>>4893716
Don't get xp pen innovator 16 because the screen light is dim and will only get dimmer over time. Among other issues. Otherwise xp pen is decent. I have no experience with artisul

>>4892667
I want it

>>4893716
You've got an explanation on XP-Pen in the OP. It's Chinese garbage and you're going to have some kind of issue, whether it be line wobble, harsh tapering, bad tilt or whatever.

I don't know much about Artisul, but they're designed in San Francisco and manufactured in Taiwan, so they're probably much better than the Chinese tablets.

>>4893716
I've had the Artist 12 for a year now and it's probably one of the best purchases I made. Have had no issues other than the pen's eraser being ass

>>4893716
Xp-Pen are great, basically everybody is buying them now.
Artisul have no reputation to speak of, nobody knows shit about Artisul.

>>4893728
I'll wait when it goes on sale for $499.00

>>4893745
i only get the tilt thing but i dont use tilt anyways
you can open the pen and fidget with the knob in it if its poorly calibrated from factory

when will ipad pro's screen get bigger?

>>4894063
>Xp-Pen are great, basically everybody is buying them now.
No they aren't, stupid chink. insect
>Artisul have no reputation to speak of, nobody knows shit about Artisul.
This is how I know you're an idiot who knows nothing.

>>4894400
t. non artist toy collector

>>4894284
>>4892667
there have been rumors that MS might make a surface studio monitor standalone, it's really nice even with the glossy glass. The biggest problem with Surface hub and Studio is they sell a machine that's essentially a couple years outdated built in if they just sold the hub screen buy itself as a monitor now that would be really interesting

>>4894483
care to repost the image?

I will probably get S7+ the moment CSP stops its retarded subscription model and just becomes a one time purchase

>>4894399
When you buy a full mac.

>>4895217
THIS. if only csp was just a 1 time purchase I think the galaxy tab s7+ would be so much more in demand.

>>4893026
>he fell for the iPad meme
we got another one boys

>>4893366
>>4895914
Then try to recommend something better you fucking memers

>>4895616
Mac with touch+pencil capability would be the end for Wacom

>>4882977
Just got a Huion Kamvas Pro. It's not bad, desu. The pen is a little creaky sounding sometimes, but other than that no performance issues and the screen matches my monitor, just by chance.

>>4882977
im still on wacom intuos3 lmao

i know most 2 and 1 laptops have shitty styluses that are just no good compared to most dedicated drawing tablets and even computer tablets with drawing
but what about samsungs galaxy laptops? they should have the same tech as their tablets right?

How is parallax on different tablets?
Huion's Kamvas 22 Plus uses laminated ant-glare glass (supposedly the thinnest layer)
XP Pen has a screen protector layer that you might need to replace in the future, making it thicker
But no one talks about parallax on ipad pro and tab s7+. How does it compare?

>>4896884
HWO DARE U TO COMPARE CHINKS WITH GLORIOUS APPLKE AND SAMSUNG

>>4882977
my xppen is great fuck off

>>4896884
I use the 22 plus and am very happy with it so far. I mainly got it for the display quality though

>>4896884
This is rough but I whipped this up for you, anon.

The parallax on the iPad is nearly non existent and the pen helps hide whatever there might be. XP's has a bit more but it's nearly unnoticeable. Ive been using both for long enough that I don't notice but I know it can be jarring to some not to get their 1:1.

>>4897164
Thank you. It really shows the difference like night and day. If the xp pen is not hovering, it's really bad. I really didn't want to get an iPad, so seeing this makes me upset. Maybe I can try it at an Apple store first, though last I checked they didn't have pens to try (I guess people steal them).

>>4897164
Actually wondering how it fares on the Tab s7+

>>4897179
DESU my iPad is dated so if the new ones and the new penicls are better, you might have to go for it, bro.
I have I think the 2018 9.7 version. Solid, still kicking. Paid $300 for it and the pencil at Best Buy here in Trumpland.
Not gonna defend Xp too hard since they are who they are: cheap; but I do think the nibs on each determine how much parallax you see while drawing, versus off center pictures i take to show distance - if that makes sense.
if I can figure out how to get the video from my phone I can post that for you so you can see what I mean about the perception of angles.

Other than that, 100% recommend trying to borrow a friends iPad or play with one in an electronic store or even the Amazon Return thing to give it a go. I don't use mine much because Apple hasn't gone over a 3kMa Battery in 20 years so it dies fast and theres no indicator for when the Pencils battery is dying, but Procreate, Nomad Scuplt, and Sketchbook are flawless on it.

This is my 3rd Xp in 7 years I think. I got it to replace a dif display of theirs I broke and I've got a backup screenless so I can keep working if the big guy craps out on me. They're solid but not for everyone.

>>4897181
Sorry, bro. Ive got an s20 and hate it because the touch is trash, if that helps?

>>4897179
so you;re comaring a 24 inch dislpay to an ipad?

>>4896609
they use a smaller version of the S-Pen, which makes it a bit harder to draw with buy oyu can just buy the larger one that is with the tablets
Same tech
Only issue is that there really isn't any professional level software that works well with touch

>>4882977
My workstations:

Tablet:
>Artisul D13 Tablet Monitor
>Budget: $300
>Type: Display

BoogieBoard:
>BoogieBoard Jot
>BoogieBoard Blackboard
>Budget: $20-30
>Type: Portable

Android/Smart Phone:
>Stylus: Adonit Droid for Android
>Budget: $20
>Type: Portable

>>4897329
ok.
And...? Youre looking for what exactly?

Is there any benefit to rooting the S7+ tablet in terms of it being used for drawing? I'm guessing since CSP is subscription only, rooting won't get around that.

Does your pen make light lines when it's not on contact with the tablet surface? While drawing recently my pen has been making extra lines when it hasn't before when all I had to do was lift it lightly to get to the next part of the drawing. I haven't changed the settings or have done anything differently.

pic related, I've also noticed when I'm on the color wheel changing colors and tap for the one I want it still has a hold on the bar and doesn't let go and still moves. Might be the tablet itself though and not the pen, it's an Intous cth-690, had it for 4 years

>>4883003
I would like to see a good review comparing the pen experience. this is really important and all reviews are not being made by artists. and it`s make it or break it.

>>4883313
this is the best comparison I found in the internet so far, but it`s only talking about ergonomics. not enough information.

>>4883172
>>4883003
>>4897915
>>4889027


good review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsKL0qYV-aw

>>4897941
perfect review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07zZkT1bbrE

>>4897179
When you're buying an iPad, always buy used.
>>4897200
>I don't use mine much because Apple hasn't gone over a 3kMa Battery in 20 years so it dies fast
The thing is, Appleshit has fantastic aftermarket support, so getting a battery replacement is cheap and easy.

Aftermarket support for Wacom is garbage. It's even worse for chinkshit, non-existent even.

>>4897273
what

>>4898261
The windows laptops from Samsung have a smaller S-Pen - the one used in the phones.
But you can buy one that is a larger, full sized S-Pen

>>4898300
but is there a difference from them compared to the actual tablets?

>>4898314
Windows 10 isn't Android. Windows 10 sucks as a touchscreen device but the art programs are the same

>>4898209
>always buy used
Its almost like you're trying to fuck people over by buying wacoms/ipads used and make sure they don't have a warranty in case something goes wrong.

>>4898314
Samsung s-pen uses wacom tech. So the only difference is the stylus. If you want a wacom stylus for a Samsung device you can get them but they're old as shit and hard to find.

>>4898332
No they aren't.
My fucking Note 4 cellhpone stylus literally workes on the S7+

>>4882977
give it to me straight sempais for an animation/visual design student which tabs are a better investment display tablet? or the ones you gotta connect to an external computer/laptop?
what would be the best ver. of either if i were operating on a ~500$ budget

XP-PEN Deco Pro, is it really any good? pls

>>4898632
Its good, yeah. Slightly textured surface but thats a plus for many, the nibs are far tougher than the wacom ones so they burn out far more slowly. Very solid build quality and loads of space.

>>4898329
Wacom warranties are short anyway and they're known to try and step around them.

I'm saying used iPads are worth it because warranty or not, they have great aftermarket support. A dying battery is easily and cheaply replaced.

>>4898329
Wacom warranties are short anyway and they're known to try and step around them.

I'm saying used iPads are worth it because warranty or not, they have great aftermarket support. A dying battery is easily and cheaply replaced.

>>4898632
It's trash, like all other chinese tablets. Don't listen to braindead chink shills like >>4898792

They fail in so many areas, as seen here: >>4893745

Is the Huion h950p good? (while on a budget)

I want to get an ipad but it seems like there is a new model announced every year and previous models already became obsolete and it scares me

>>4899091
Oh, /pol/chan. you're back from your ban, are you?
>replacing apple batteries is cheap
>ipad replacement off warrenty for who you're replying to starts a 250
>they could get a new ipad for that
Just say you're being racist off board and go. We're trying to actually draw here.

>>4899357
>previous models became obsolete
what?
apple supports their product lines for years. in fact people recommend buying the 2018 ipad pros over the 2020

Just got a free Wacom CTH-490 and now I have the yellow drawing tablet fever, what would you guys recommend for 3D work like substance painter, zbrush and photoshop? my only complaint is this drawing pad is small, and the hand eye coordination is difficult.. Maybe one with a screen will be better.

>t. Anime face I drew in 10 minutes as tax for asking this question, I know it's shit.

>>4898632
Yes. Deco pro is fucking great, I love mine.

>>4899541
>any modern medium sized one. If you like smooth surface, get an H610 V2. If you like a slightly papery texture, get a deco pro medium.

>>4899458
>apple supports their product lines for years. in fact people recommend buying the 2018 ipad pros over the 2020
doesn't 2020 ipad pro have more RAM so it's better?

I want to draw and I've never drawn before. What's the cheapest thing I can buy that works?

>>4899357
its really not something you should worry about, at least specifically towards apple. every tech company refreshes their products every 12-18 months. and lets not get started on different product lines.
Either way its pretty uncommon for their to be DRASTIC differences between tech each year
apple however at least gives 4 year old tech the same updates as their newer stuff.

>>4899791
if your goal is to just draw you can pretty much get away with using ipad 6
the ipad pro has its benefits but you're not gonna run into limitations not as often as you would think

Does anyone here have experience with using Ergontic monitor arms with their larger 22-27 inch drawing displays? I got 24 inch drawing display and tried to use it with a monitor arm, but said drawing display slumps forward like it's too heavy. The drawing display is about 15 lbs and the arm is rated to go up to 19.8 pounds.

>>4899835
but you're really better off getting something better
extra ram really is nice, maybe go for the newest air

all these people falling for apple shills

>>4899958
Its an iPad at $300 or a mobile studio pro for 2k.


No shilling. Budgets and options.

>>4899958
android tabs have only recently started becoming competitive, and its really just samsung's stuff
personally i'm waiting for yogabook 3

>>4899960
Where the fuck do you get iPads for 300?

>>4899715
>H610 V2
What about one with a screen? my budget is 600

>>4899966
kamvas 22 plus is pretty good. Came out last august. Etched glass, 140% colour gamut and 1200:1 contrast ratio. So the colours are both accurate and vivid, darks are extremely dark.

I bought one in the beginning of september, no problems so far. Fingers crossed

>>4899454
What is it about "after market" support you're too braindead stupid to understand, moron? Why the fuck would you go to Apple for a battery replacement when you can get one from a repair shop for $40 tops.

Reminder to safely discard shills like this: >>4899970
All meme features laid out by a marketer. Chinese drawing performance is still terrible, as seen here: >>4893745
No matter what any chink shill tries to tell you about "140% color gamut" (he's not even saying which color gamut, which is already a dead giveaway he's a shill), "etched glass", etc. None of that shit actually means anything. What really matters is drawing performance, specifically when it comes to line work.

>>4899454
>Just say you're being racist
Do you know where you are, Chang? 4chan is not your personal hugbox, bugeyes.

>>4900192
cringe

>>4882977
The Ipad is really worth it to buy it as a drawing tablet?

I picked up a 21UX 2nd gen. for $50 dollars last week and also got a power adapter for ~$20. My only other tablet was my cth-480, and this is so much more fun to use. I do need to get used to the size though by rotating from the shoulder/elbow more though since it's so big.

Wacom is now selling used Wacom Ones for $280.
Is it worth it?

I've had a Cintiq 16 for a couple years and I'm tempted to upgrade to a bigger display.
Anyone upgrade from a small/med size screen tablet to a larger one? Was it worth it/a noticeable upgrade?

>>4898792
I wanted to get the Deco Pro but i went for the 03 instead because i didnt have too much...

At least my small 2013 intuos will get a rest

>>4899242
The h950p is a great tablet. I've have had mine for 2 years now and I don't have a single complaint.

>>4899963
I paid 250 for mine new so idk what to tell ya bud.
>>4900192
Lol bots are cute.

What's something I can buy up to 150€?

>>4900574
I'm in the same price range and I've been told to buy the deco pro many times

>>4900399
Star 03? I have it too, want to sell it and get a deco pro now but I wonder if it's worth an upgrade.

Why are /pol/turds in the OP now too?

>>4900931
its been a thing for ages now, its a raging autist. afaik he's been getting banned lately. Youll recognize his posts when you see them, just report and ignore

>>4900720
Its not the star, its the Deco 03, the one with a red dial it, because it was around my price range

Im waiting for it to arrive and see if it will worth getting the pro once i had enough money

>>4882977
What to get?
>budget
300 max
>location
USA
>type
display. Don't need portable but want to draw onto the screen.
>size
Don't need it to be too big, maybe around 10in minimum
No real previous experience.

>>4900233
You did well, except for sculpting in Blender.

>>4900574
>>4900661
>>4900399
Stop listening to chinese shills.
If you're on a budget, look for a used Wacom Tablet on Ebay.

>>4900988
Samsung Galaxy S6 Lite. It's your only good, non-used option.

>>4901183
So that is more of a phone tablet that normies use for games right? Does it work regardless for digital drawing?

>>4901602
the S pen has wacom EMS tech or something, so it works well with digital drawing stuff

>>4900988
Please ignore the first anon. He's an offboarder with no interest with helping you getting back to drawing. He's just here to stir shit and waste peoples money.

Wacom sadly doesn't make anything display in your budget range. Alternatives would be the Huion Kamvas 13 or the XP Artist Pro line that has their 12 and 13" displays within your budget. If you order of Amazon and it's not to your liking you can return it. I'd really suggest saving the extra 100 for the 15.6 models as the size will be very comfy comparatively.
Next rec would be a second hand iPad and compatible Apple Pencil. It's great because it's an all in one and you can be lazy with it as well as having a long list of accessories to make it extra comfy like the Paperlike screen protectors. The investments for the appple stuff are only worth it if you're planning on using it often and mostly for art, but if you're not interested in their proprietary peacemealing, wacom alternatives would be better.

>>4883016
microsoft and apple would prefer someone using a pirate copy of their os than a non-pirate linux user. why? not only because they can take info from the users, but because a different common person would never know that the copy of a coworker is a pirate version.

so another issue is about supporting indirectly the brand. if you dislike a brand from abusing consumers trust, you should avoid using it, no matter if a product is second hand or "free".

>>4901602
I'm using s6 lite, as for drawing experience, it's quite solid. Free csp for 6 months, lot of decent drawing apps too. If you want another pen, staedler is partnered with samsung to make a norris pen for their tablets. I'm using the stock pen though, it works fine, also I bought the cover keyboard too. These days my s6 lite has replaced my laptop because I can do all the work on this machine.

£250
UK
Portable display
9"+
Currently have a Wacom bamboo but no laptop, unsure if I should get a laptop if I could do the same work on a kino tablet I can take to bed or around for a walk with me
Used S6 lites are about 275, are there cheaper alternatives? I don't mind taking a chance on huion they seem to be very hyped up for budget options

>>4901948
those S6es are your best bet. you'd need a computer to power that little huion, and preferably one that can do above 1000x1000 without chugging and lagging when you decide it's time to work on 2 layers instead of 1.

>>4901693
You're not fooling anyone, idiotic chinese insect. Chinese tablets are still garbage and the proof has been provided in this thread.

Free Hong Kong.
Independent Taiwan.
Free Tibet.
Tienanmen Square Massacre.

>>4901712
>microsoft and apple
What does that have to do with Wacom, idiot?
You can say the software logs data, but don't even try to pretend the Chinese don't, Chang.

>>4901712
>microsoft and apple
What does that have to do with Wacom, idiot?
You can say the software logs data, but don't even try to pretend the Chinese don't, Chang.

>>4901948
They're only "hyped up" because paid chinese shills hype them up en mass around the internet. See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

>>4901948
Please don't go with huion. If youre going with any cheapo brand then go with xp pen and avoid the innovator 16.

>>4900317
It will never be worth it unless they fix their shitty wacom one. I might consider that thing worth it for about $50

>>4898363
I'm talking about wacom brand styluses for galaxy, you complete buffoon.

>What should I buy?
-Budget doesn't matter
-Mexican border, 3 miles from Texas
-Any type, I don't think portable would do much for me since I don't travel much
-Any
-As long as it's the best quality it can offer
-I've drawn with 3 different wacom bamboo tablets throughout the years, right now I'm using the 2014 intuos draw small size

>>4902429
Free Alaska.
Independent South.
Free Arcadia.
MK-ULTRA.

Any reason to upgrade from my Intuos 4 medium?

How much better is a Cintiq?

>>4901948
A8 with S-Pen, but its pen is worse and the display is smaller. Otherwise buy a used s6 lite.

>>4900233
Where did you get that for $50?

What configs do you guys use for lineart? Pen sensitivity? Mapping? Tools? Artificial smoothing?
I'm using GIMP and an Intuos Art. My drawings look like shit compared to pencil & paper.

>>4903150
krita with basic stabilizer

>>4902987
Tesco

Have you guys ever used duet display for using the ipad on photoshop. Is a program like that worth it at all? I have a creative cloud membership for motion graphics stuff already so it would be cool to try to integrate the ipad with photoshop.

>>4903150
Lazy Nezumi Pro. It's a brush stabilizer that can hook into any art program. Has a better brush stabilization you get in programs like SAI and Krita, along with a ton of options to tweak it to your liking, and a ton of other tools like rulers, perspective grids, etc. It has shapes/rulers with patterns you can snap draw on.

Bought a Cintiq 32 pro because I make lots of money from my art now, but honestly I think it’s too big and I’m eyeing a smaller model lel

>>4904173
What kind of art do you do? How do you sell it? Trying to make it selling art myself, could use any tips.

>>4904173
I have one also. I make no money with it. I cant figure out how to. All I see are heartbreaking commission / LFW posts with $15 quotes. This is what awaits at the end of the road? Jesus.
And yes I would prefer a 28" or so.

>>4904173
I pondered between the 24 and 32 for a while, ended up choosing the 24 because 1k cheaper and easier fit on my table with the arm

in terms of drawing it feels perfect for me at the moment, but I'm sure something like 27 would be a sweet spot though as it does get small if I work with a lot of reference

when does wacom usually come out with new tablets.
ilm interested in a pro 16 but it's discontinued.

hey /dtg/, i'm going to get my sister a tablet for her bday next month. I don't know anything about tablets and she never draws in digital but wants to start.
>600-700 or less USD
>in USA
>type size i have no frame of reference for

ideally something beginner-friendly but not gimped when the artist improves is what i'm looking for, thanks in advance.

>>4904976
use a second monitor for refs you massive twat, you just blew a couple bigs on a screen tablet how cant you have some more money for a 100 usd IPS screen?

>>4902987
Habitat for Humanity ReStore.

it's some kind of store that sells gently used goods for cheap.

>>4906008
Grab a Galaxy S7. They just came out and they're really good.

What's a good general companion tablet for on the go and drawing?
I don't want to spend an arm and a leg, but laminated screens and good contrast and color accuracy are really nice, as is a fast CPU and long battery life. "Can it run Dolphin?" is pretty much my performance (and renderer compatibility) benchmark for mobile devices these days.

Not buying S6 lite with that TFT screen, it's not the noughties anymore as far as I can tell. Windows is peace of mind, as I can do much more with a Windows device, but God are they expensive.

Pic related lists some considerations.

Pretty appalling how little information you can find on the Samsung nibs. I was looking if S6 replacement nibs exist. Apparently Samsung does not offer them, and the Chinese knockoffs off Amazon and Aliexpress can break inside and ruin the pen. I had to find that out form R***** threads. Maybe some Wacom nibs will work, I sure can't find any confirmation on that.

So the Galaxy pens are basically not meant for heavy use, let alone longevity? Also not sure for how many years (or months) the replacement pen itself will be available.

>>4907591
The S Pen from my Note 4 works fine on the S7, anon
EMR pens are al the same tech - any EMR pen will work.
Replacements are available easily?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Replacement-Samsung-Tweezer-Verizon-Carriers/dp/B07KPBYKMW

>>4907623
In the US, maybe, not the rest of the world. And these are also third party.

>>4907627
Okay so I linked to a non-US store and you think it's the US

I didn't think you were trolling but oh well

>>4882977
>>Budget
£500
>>Location
London, UK
>>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
Display
>>Size (in inches)
>>Other information
>>Previous equipment
N/A

>>4907750
>91% sRGB
It's a bad meme.

>>4882977
>Budget:
$200
>Location
USA
>Type
Non-display preferred, I'll know when I'm good enough to get a display one
>Size
Bigger is better within budget
>Other information
I've been a novice for 10 years so I'm not in jeopardy of pushing software limits and still don't even really know my way around GIMP. It doesn't have to be feature-loaded
>Previous Equipment
Bamboo Fun

>>4907756
Should I trust this Chinesium tab?

>>4907759
If you want vivid colours with good contrast, get the kamvas 22 plus

>>4907793
>kamvas 22 plus
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HUION-21-5inch-Battery-free-Pressure-Anti-glare/dp/B08CH76D44/ref=sr_1_20?dchild=1&keywords=HUION+2020&qid=1601675179&s=electronics&sr=1-20
This one?

>>4907796
Nop, you want the "plus" one.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HUION-Graphics-Full-laminated-Homeworking-Adjustable/dp/B0897KN196/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=HUION+2020+kamvas+plus&qid=1601675528&s=electronics&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyV1VYWUtNRk0yWTU0JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTk3NDQxTkc3R0c0MlMwQVExJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxOTMwMzY4SlBMTVBFQjFHUkgmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

>>4907803
Oh, what's plus about it? It's like £130 more than the regular one.

>>4907804
better colours/contrast, virtually zero parallax , etched glass instead of film

>>4907842
Sounds good. Gonna choose between that, and possibly the S7+ if I'm feelin' it

are there any good 2 and 1 laptops that are actually pretty well built and have good pens?
a lot of them seem to be built way to thin and flimsy but i want to see something at least half as sturdy as a thinkpad

>>4907945
no.
The 2 in 1s come with shitty pens.

There's the cintiq companion, but it's VERY meh on the hardware side. And I generally wouldn't expect wacom to have good expertise with making 2in1s

>>Budget
500-700 €
>>Location
Paris, France
>>Type (display? Non-display? portable?)
Display
>>Size (in inches)

Whatever.

What tablet do I need to make work like this?

>>4908044
Any. You could do that with a mouse. If you arent able to draw like that with a pencil/pen on paper, you wont be able to do it digitally with a tablet either. Its not magically going to make you better, its just a tool.

Thank you all for the suggestions, i've been torn between pic related and a s5e, then this showed up at the cheapest I've seen one. I'm so tempted... refurb, in good condition, just that my finances aren't.
For anyone with relevant experience, is it best to have a laptop and a screenless tablet, or a portable one like this for getting a little commissions coming in? Ie what lends itself to you as more comfortable/appealing and efficient for getting work done?

>>4908069
Sure, but tools are there to make things easier. D'ya have any suggestions as to what tablet would be able to make work like that easier?

>>4908073
If you're cool with financing, Very has that for £350ish.

>>4907759
>>4907796
>>4907804
>>4907843
Stop listening to Chinese shills. Chinese garbage like Huions don't come pre-calibrated so they look like complete arse color-wise. On top of that, they fail where drawing tablets really matter; sketching. See >>4893745

These threads have been infested with extreme Chinese shills lately. If anyone is recommending an XP Pen or a Huion, stop listening.

A Galaxy S7+ absolutely blows any chinese tablet out of the water in terms of colors and contrast because it has an OLED display. It also uses Wacom pen technology so you won't have any of the problems seen here: >>4893745

>>4908074
Huion H610 v2

Xp pen deco pro

If you hate your money, wacom intuos medium

>>4908079
>>4908081
The duality of man.

Again, discard chinkshill morons like >>4908081

See >>4893745 for the problems with chinese tablets.

They still make horrible, cheap pens that suffer line wobble and bad tapering. Complete waste of money.

>>4908089
I mean, S7+ is double the price. You're gonna get double the quality.

>>4908079
Spotted him again

>>4908090
>I mean, S7+ is double the price
That depends what model you're comparing it to. Chink companies have been getting cocky with their high prices lately, despite having the same shitty pens.
>You're gonna get double the quality.
More than double the quality actually.
On top of better drawing performance, better contrast and better colors, you're also getting the ability to take your tablet anywhere you like.

NGL, these are pretty litty. They even yoinked Wacoms tech.
>>4908094
What do you think of the S6 Lite, Anon? Is it better than Chinesium too?

>>4908097
>What do you think of the S6 Lite, Anon? Is it better than Chinesium too?
Easily. I have one myself. The S-Pen uses Wacom tech, so you'll get nice, consistent linework and working tilt. Also Android has a great app called superDisplay that lets you use the tablet as a display tablet for Windows, which is really easy to setup.
The downside compared to the S7+ is smaller 10.4" size and no OLED display. OLED isn't that important for drawing tablets, unless you really crave the perfect contrast.

>>4908109
S7+ is triple the price, so I think I can sacrifice a few bits and bops that won't really effect me all that much. Thanks for the shill, Anon. I needed some confidence before I made this purchase, even though I'm a chad.

How's the screen quality? I dig reading the odd comic book on my iPad 2, but it's 9 years old at this point so it's showing its age.

>>4908111
Not the anon you replied to. I have the S4 and the S7+
The S4 would be at least as good as the S6 - it's perfectly fine for most comics. Some that are based on larger comic sizes, aren't perfect but quite nice in general. Though even on the S7+ I can tell it's still not as good as having the real thing. Mainly ones that are slightly over A4 in size if you bought the paper ones.
Challenge Viewer is what I recommend (free) for your comic reader.

Honestly, I'd not bother with the S7+ if you're not interested in having a book/pdf splitscreened with a note taking app and even then, it's doable just sometimes a bit awkward depending on the pdf app you have. It goes back to the idea of a book that would be quite large has more text per page so it's harder to read in split screen

>>4908164
Yeah, I wanna start drawing.

>>4908187
Just get the S6 Lite honestly.
Other than a smaller screen which isn't that big of a deal imo, you just get lesser RAM really. So unless you're going to sperg and go like 8k*8k and 20 layers, it won't make a difference

>S7 regular
>£619
what a scam

Why are drawing tablet's active areas 16:10 instead of 16:9?

>>4908391
Because it should be 4:3 but companies want to pander to "media consoomption".

>>4908192
>Other than a smaller screen
It's literally a TFT screen. Just awful.

>>4908479
when it's not the same ratio an drawing a perfect circle will come out as an oval

>>4908480
It's fine idiot. It doesn't have to be OLED to look miles better than chinkshit. Just draw.

>>4908515
It should at least have sRGB coverage, "idiot".

>>4908090
>>4908094


Redpill me and QRD me on the S7+.
Is it as good as a Wacom? Is there a reason to get the S7+ over a Cintiq?

>>4908776
The Samsung represents better value for money, has far better build quality, is significantly less prone to defect or failure and has an objectively better display, being OLED.

The Cintiq has a better pen, and can have a larger display depending on how much money you're prepared to spend. Large 22+" display can be important if you value drawing with your shoulder, like if you do frequent sketching for 2D animation.

>>4908792
Here's my dilemma. I am used to painting with my Intuos 4 medium. The drawing surface is 10.5 inches, but I am looking at a 27 inch 1440p monitor while I paint.

The S7+ is 12.4 inch, so it's bigger drawing area than Intuos 4 medium, but since I'm used to looking at the 27 inch screen while drawing, is that going to fuck me up?
I feel like I'd have a hard time adjusting to a smaller screen.

Also, what are the painting apps like on Android?

>>4908804
I don't see how that could be an issue. Does it really matter how big the display you're looking at is? You're still drawing on a 10.5" display, and your hand movements on a 12.4" will be somewhat similar. Also, you can actually use the Galaxy as a non-display tablet anyway with Virtualtab.

>Also, what are the painting apps like on Android?
Mediocre, but getting better.
Clip Studio recently came out and is free for 6 months. It's as powerful a software as you will ever need.
Infinite Painter is good, but buggy.
Krita came out a few months back, but still needs to be optimized for tablets.
Ibis Paint and Medibang are pretty good, particularly for the comic workflow.
Sketchbook is solid, but not getting feature updates anymore since it went free.

Overall it still loses to iPad in the app department thanks to Procreate and ArtStudio Pro. Android apps are still solid though. One big advantage it has over Appleshit is superDisplay, which lets you use the tablet as a desktop display tablet for Windows, and works really well.

I've been using the 24 inch Wacom cintiq pro for about a year now. It's fucking amazing.
Highly recommend it. The pressure sensitivity is orgasmic and it feels as nice as drawing on the iPad pro

I think I will buy the S6 mostly because it's cheaper. Is the S7+ a significant upgrade? I guess colors would be more accurate on the IPS.

>>4908835
It has a much better pen.
S6's pressure curve is whatever, and S7 introduced the low latency thing.
S7 is the first tablet that actually tried to challenge the ipad rather than having a pen just as a cool gimmick for lols.

>>4908813

Thanks for the info. I'll consider it when I upgrade, which should be soon.

>>4908821
Damn. That looks nice. See, this is why I want the extra real estate. Seems fucking heavenly.

>>4908821
>I've been using the 24 inch Wacom cintiq pro for about a year now
probably has about a year left...

>>4883028
buy a new cable for your huion
if you want something portable at that price range you're better off not getting a screen tablet
https://www.xp-pen.com/product/432.html
if you don't care about portability this is the best probably
https://www.storexppen.com/buy/innovator-display-16.html

If you actually want something portable an Ipad is your best bet.
Be real tho, how often do you sit in cafes and draw comic pages?

>>4908856
the innovator seems to have issues.
As far as I'm aware it's just the Artist 15.6 Pro but worse and costs more.

>>4908838
Oh well, think the S7 / S7+ will be cheaper on "Cyber Monday" or will Samsung just lower their MSRP closer to the actual market price?

>>4908841
I'll buy another one. It's that good

>>4908863
Samsungs get cheaper over time, also there are sales and shit. They might also release an S7 lite or A9 eventually.

>>4908863
That guy doesnt know what he's talking about. the S6/S6 Lite pen is fine. low latency has nothing to do with pen, that's display.

Any pen that doesn't have wobble or tapering is a good pen, and the S6/S6-Lite doesn't have those issues. Peoples main problem with it is that it's super light and thin.

>>4908860
what issues?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df08LzZGwMo
this guy says its ok
I have a 13.3 pro and It has had 0 issues so far

>>4908870
Well I can see that tilt is gonna be a bit of a pain with the small tip anyway.

>>4908871
nvm shared wrong video
https://youtu.be/cgs01z6a2hs

new thread

>>4908876
>>4908876
>>4908876
>>4908876