/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

WIP

Mostly cleaning sketch, so not much change!

>>4889764

halp

>>4889769

>>4889765
Better than a lot of manga that gets published in Japan.

>>4889769
eyes are lopsided
forehead seems shorter than the photo

Just bought a drawing tablet and sketched this, no reference.
I used to draw anime back in school but I haven't drawn anything in about 10 years.
I will start studying anatomy now and will learn how to draw hands, feet.

>>4889774
Thanks!

>>4889774
lol

How do I become better at understanding how a ball (circle / ring) behaves in 3D?

I try to draw Loomis but I always have to randomly guess where the center lines are.

>>4889786
keep it up and you could be doing the EP covers for slam metal bands in no time!

What is the essential knowledge + skillset needed to draw titty art competent enough to start a patreon and grift twitter weebs? Don't try and sell me any fine arts shit cause idgaf.

>>4889900
networking

thats about-it

hehe

>>4889777
Thanks for the insight Proko that was really helpful

>>4889721
how so?

Unfortunately I don't have the reference cuz this was done with Quickposes, do you see anything off aside from the head? Draw time was maybe 10-15 mins

>>4889959
chicken scratches
hard to see forms

Hello where are some easy but good guides for learning anatomy? Yes I know there are all the standard books and stuff but I don't have the time to go through all of those. I'm not trying to become a professional artist anyway I just want my art to look decent at some point. I tried using Loomis measurements and for some reason it still turned out like shit and looked completely wrong despite the fact that I followed literal measurements so wth?

>>4890015
Proko Anatomy

>>4890015
>easy but good
There are no shortcuts and to be real honest if you give up after a few attempts of doing the Loomis you just should quit drawing altogether I'm not trying to be rude but yo have to put some kind effort instead of looking for shortcuts because you don't want to be a "professional artist"

>>4889959
I refuse to give you any kid of critique because you didn't listen when people told you to resize your images on picresize.com

>>4889927
Good Job Anon, did you use any kind of reference for this? I'm not sure if there's supposed to be water in the middle but if so there should have been some type of reflection.
Pretty good effort overall but I think you have ways to go still on shading your work.

>>4890015
Figure Drawing: Design and Invention by Michael Hampton

>>4889814
Are you talking about the lighting or the shape itself? Anyway you have to work towards a vanishing point in order to be successful at understanding the convergence of shapes. If you're reading the Loomis there are plenty chapters dedicated to vanishing points.

>>4890027
Literally nobody has ever told me this

Best video courses/resources for gesture drawing?

>>4889778
Draw the penis like are mean to draw a big fucking cock don't sugar code anything in drawing also why you didn't draw any hands?.
I know this is only a sketch but you should improve you lining because it looks too sketchy there are many other things I could pick on but if you're serious about drawing after 10 years be consistent and don't become complacent.

>>4889786
do you experiment with ink?

>>4889769
Are you planning on finishing this?
I think I've seen some of your work before and you have improved. I don't want to be rude to your reference but that seaweed hair of hers don't make any favors in the beauty of the overall appeal of the drawing.
There're a few differences on the shape of the head specially around the jaw area your drawing is a little more thicker than it should but there's nothing to kick your ass about. Nice effort.

>>4889786
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU

Today I realized I can't even sketch the 4 forms in perspective from my head so its time to revist them.
The illusion of competence is very real and very scary

>>4889780
Based and I'm also certain that you had a lot of fun drawing this. Good Job.

>>4890086
Oops forgot the pic

>>4890065
Glenn

>>4890100
Any specific course? Doesn’t he have a whole shitload of stuff? Just trying to figure where to start

>>4890081
I don't know how to finish pieces.

Also did this one

>>4890155

thoughts?

>>4889786
I like the ghosts in the crystal ball

>>4890054
Alright, thanks. I'll just stick to Loomis book (still at very beginning so far).

>>4889896
thanks! that would be a dream coe true for me

>>4890155
This one looks like a complete different person from the one in the reference, the one you posted earlier like I said is far more accomplished in terms of much it resemblances the original pic.
>I don't know how to finish pieces
You just go for it don't be afraid to mess it up and if you do then you know in what you need to work on the next time.

>>4890069
i used to do that a lot but all my pens hae gone dry now :(

>>4890204
Yes.

bleh

>>4890245

Here's some /beg/tier poses

>>4889769
>>4890155
You are having trouble capturing likeness (if that is what you are going for).

I feel like the nose is off in the second picture, and it's quite squished downwards. The jaw goes too far back.
I feel like the nose isn't quite right.

I tried softening the features a bit. idk if you think it helps?

What should i do with the arm?

>>4890281
Arm and hand looks flat.
Tilt it more so it will look like it has more volume.

>>4890283.
It will still look awkward.

>>4890252
I wish i could draw like that

>>4890290
Have ya tried studying

>>4890281
Cut it off and replace it with a hammer

>>4890311
Are ya studying the Loomis son?

>>4890311
yeah I've only been going for 2 months but there's so much to learn i feel overwhelmed

when you do the boxes for perspective practice should you free hand or use lines/ruler?

can i count this as my face of the day? its just a very zoomed in face thats all

>>4890366
MIN 22:50
https://youtu.be/7MV-bJz1dcw?t=1370

>>4890345
That picture is peak autism

>>4890385
cheers

>>4890345
>>4890385

>>4889718
Heya, I'm a beg from a previous thread who was having trouble with drawing on a tablet - figured out something that might help other anons!

By going into your Wacom settings you can adjust tip pressure sensitivity. I cranked that bad boy all the way to the max and bam, it feels so much better drawing, feels like I'm drawing on paper.

Question for anons - there is such a vast ocean of things that I have yet to learn that I am honestly at a stupor as to what should I start with. Form contruction? Gestures? Anatomy? Doing studies?

I downloaded like 10 different books and don't know which one I should start with. If some anon could point me at a direction I would be much obliged.

Any good tutorials for crosshatching? I really like the appeall, but I need some help

>>4890489
Master Perspective/Form/Construction First(200h-300h)
You are welcome

how do you make drawing feel less like work and more like a fun activity

>>4890529
I find just draw whatever whimsical idea I like, tune up style and turn down the technical.

>>4890525
> Perspective/Form/Construction
Then so it shall be
Thank you for the direction, kind man

What i do wrong? from imagineation

>>4890576

>>4890576
>>4890594
if youre going for likeness it looks nothing like her work on measurements

>>4890598
How do I measure better?

>>4890576
>>4890594
Your drawing looks more full asian, while the source looks more like a mixed, horse face, was that intentional?

>>4890622
i mean with your eyes? look for easy spaces to measure gaps, look at the space between eye and edge of head for example and moto nose, mouth to nose etc etc

How many coomis heads I gotta do before it becomes INTUITIVE

I'm trying
please critique

>>4890745

>>4890749

>>4890088
always

>>4890647
Yeah, I'm trying and it's not working. Am I just too retarded for drawing?

>>4890845

>>4890845
youre not taking enough time is all, the fact youve posted like ten faces today says this, but i mean not looking at likeness the faces are still ok

any advice?

>>4890845
Just keep drawing don't listen to ridiculous advice like that one beg who said to draw less and that you draw too many faces, holy shit what a retard

>>4890856
LOL

>>4890871
?

For all the BEGGINERS.

So I've never drawn before really, and I bought a tablet so I could get into drawing again. What's a good way to do exercises and learn poses and anatomy? I figured I'd start with using an image of a model and then I'd trace over it and try to draw construction blocks and then the general outline and then I'd try to replicate it free handed on the left. Is that a decent practice method? I'm more of a visual learner so reading is only my last resort.
I've never drawn with a draw pad either so I'm still trying to get used to that.

>>4890894
Practice tracing (and drawing) with bigger strokes.

>>4890945
Thanks I'll be sure to try and work on that. Hands are a bit shaky simply because the stylus is weird to use but I think that'll just go away with use.

>>4890864
Focus on your proportions first and foremost.
measurements such as the width of the shoulders, the length of the legs and the size of the torso compared to the pelvis, the width of the arms and the placement of the kneecaps(?) as well as the facial features are all out of wack and it really invalidates any amount of detail that you might put into it.

>>4890885
go back

>>4890885
eww who the fuck does features first

>>4890993
Lots of artists.

>>4890885
I don't get this, wouldn't it make your head look weird if you aren't trying to do animeshit

>>4891000
KJG sometimes starts by doing the features first too.

>>4890894
what youre doing right now is good, eventually you will find a way that you can do the boxes in a that comes natural to you as you get more comfortable with your strokes

>>4889778
his hands look as ugly as a german city

>>4890986
thank you!

>>4890204
Looks nice by itself, doesn't match up too well to the ref

Nose is the wrong shape/height
Beard is nothing alike
Eyes wrong shape

>>4891098
ayy a reply, thanks for feedback bro

thoughts?

>>4890870
Its not retarded to take more time
Accurate portraiting and improving drawing ability are separate exercises, even with their overlap

>>4890848
If you want to do good portraits, you need to look at the subject more. Beginner's tend to jump right into drawing instead of just studying the subject. Spend more time actually observing instead of pumping out faces. If you're just trying to improve your art, keep going, draw and have fun. If your goal is accurate portraits, slow the fuck down.

>>4891110
I like it a lot but I tend to be a fan of the grotesque .

>>4890870
>who said to draw less and that you draw too many faces

i said take more time and not rush you sperg, never said draw less

body horror

>>4891126
Where is the body horror?

>>4890026
I just don't get how I even messed up following measurements.. So that made it feel like that's too hard for me and I should start with something easier. If that exists

>>4891091
There is plenty that you could focus on but start with general proportions. Compare the tiny head or razor thin wrists to her massive torso and legs for example. You can stylize the proportions for wider hips or longer legs but they still need to relate to each other in order to form something that is aesthetically pleasing.

>>4890086
The illusion of competence is typical. Eventually your knowledge will increase and you'll see a lot more fault in your own work. A lot of people actually feel like they're getting worse when this happens but its just a discrepancy between your skill and your eye/knowledge. To much of the former or the latter and it becomes easy to over or underrate your abilities.

>>4891125
Taking more time means less drawing

>>4891110
bad and cringe

>>4891267
wtf are you talking about? your hand is moving the same amount of time, the length of your activity drawing is the same if you spend 1 hour on 1 piece vs 1 hour on 10 pieces, and 10 piece doesnt mean better be, if you rush and dont learn anything then whats the point, better to take your time and learn properly

if someone can name this person they win

>>4891337
looks like a nigger so idc

I learned a lot from this drawing. Too bad I have to give it away for food.

>>4891321
Most of the mistakes are made in the first few minutes of a drawing, so why noy spend more time practicing the first few minutes? Finishing a drawing is time consuming but doesn't require as much skill.

>>4891474
Congratulations, you made it.

>>4889769
>>4890155
>>4890245
>>4890576
>>4890845
You are a machine dude. Gmi.

Can the left arm holding a bullet even be drawn without looking like it's protruding directly form her chest?
I think that's just the side view.

>>4891555
Try and make the same pose in the mirror.

A drawing I did for a friend, please critique it too hell and back

>>4891575
not beg fuck off

>>4891575
Main thing I see off is how the stomach is matching with the chest, how her left thigh is somehow bending that far back, and ofc what the FUCK is that boob size consistency holy hell

>>4891578
Get better before judging whether or not someone is /beg/. There are so many beg errors in the work, and I didnt even go in depth about the paws, ankles, and general muscle issues. The linework and face is pretty yes, but dont let that throw you off of the fact that there are plenty of errors as well

end my suffering

>>4891578
Girls can be /beg/ too.. but honestly I can never find mistakes in their work. It's too clean and the lines are well defined. I'd just say
>Well that's what she intended to draw
and be done with it.
But I'm sure it has some errors... I think the left breast i way bigger than the right one. That's it. It looks good.

>>4891595
idk how people even do these

i can't do one without going full autism on the details

>>4891578
even I can admit this is peak polished turd
>>4891578
>>4891598
Understood, i'm very new to drawing animals features (maybe of a month or so) so I don't know my ass from elbows, Same with anatomy, only really dived into the upper bodies of the male figure. Thanks none the less

I've taken everyone's advise and really been trying to actually finish some works. Break me the bad news.

>>4891637
I'm sorry to say this anon but... its a nigger.

>>4891637
Workable

I CAN FEEL THE FORM!!!!!
I FUCKING LOVE PERSPERCTIVE!!!

>>4891728
Based.

>>4891595
Bretty good how long you been going

>>4890509
Rendering in pen and ink

>>4890845
everyone that is super good at drawing has to be retarded enough to keep doing it

worth it to paint the right anons?
or should i make a clean lineart layer
or is it just unsalvageable

>>4891836
i forgot to resize image again i'm literally retarded

>>4891839
>>4891836
Why don't you try it and tell me if it was worth it after

>>4890096
Start by drawing from life

First time using copics

>>4890065
Vilppu video on gesture + watch his nma videos on youtube about how he draws gestures.

>>4890525
Not him but gonna grind this too, thanks for the guide bro.

>>4890525
How do i grasp fucking perspective? I've been trying for 2 months to no avail.
I get big thing become small and VPs but don't know how to correctly apply them.

>>4891744
Thanks, I think it might be almost a year now, though I haven't made much progress in the last few months.

>>4891914
>Grasp
https://drawabox.com/lesson/2
https://drawabox.com/lesson/2/1/lying
20% theory
80% practice
You need to believe in your lies

>>4891943
I am going to draw more boxes. I swear to God in a year if i can't draw my fucking gears in perspective like this i am killing myself

I need a tutorial that will spell out digital shading for me.

What are the biggest issues here?

>>4889718
Cushy looking couch

>>4891973
study the other fundies rendermokey

>>4891973
Bad Perspective making the left tusk appear to be centered

>>4891245
Can you name other thinfs that i could focus on

>>4891981
.....okay

>>4891973
What do i learn to render like this

>>4891728
This is like the uncursed version of that planeporn guy. Pretty cool.

>>4892043
Follow this and you'll be better.
Look up youtube videos of people rendering.
Start with basic shapes and big areas.
Look at pictures of artists you like, and figure out how to get a the look you like in your favourite program.

>>4892043
>>4892055
And if in the picture there's a term you don't understand fully, look up a tutorial about that step or what it means online individually.

Also don't do it all at once, progress a bit by bit.

>>4891973
You're weak in about three fundamentals and trying to hide it under solid rendering.

>>4892064
And what would those three be?
One's anatomy I guess
The second's perspective?
What's the third?

>>4892068
Not that guy but gesture is also one of em

>>4891637
That bg is so beg. The guy looks fucking awesome, tho. Like 75% of your drawings on here are nice, man. Wtf is going on with you?

>>4892068
Form. The right shoulder pads are nearly flat despite being rendered as if they're angled at the seams. Form goes hand and hand with perspective and is luckily the quickest to learn and makes makes learning anatomy and things like foreshortening easy to pick up. Look into dynamic sketching with peter han if you haven't.

>>4892055
>>4892061
You've been alot of help, thanks.

>>4892041
Based 3 birds with one stone

>>4890582
Your library Is small¿draw more

>>4892096
ooh, that looks interesting, thanks!

>>4892136
read the fucking sticky

>>4892138
How about posting your own work instead of being a snappy little faggot

:D

>>4892255

>>4892255
>>4892258
Based and soul-pilled

>>4892055
>step 1
well, off to kill myself

>>4892274
The advice isn't as hard set as to count as steps. Just break it into small pieces and start where it's easiest for you based on your knowledge and skill.

>>4890065
Villpu is good and quite possibly the "Best" but if your just starting out I think it might not be the easiest to get into. Steve huston (who also has videos on NMA) has a far more cerebral clear cut approach to it which I think would be easier to consume as a beginner.

>>4892300
step 1 is to make a finished drawing

i'll try to follow fzd's homework dump. any pointers i should know about?
picrelated is one of the sheets for the first week.

>>4891499
>Most of the mistakes are made in the first few minutes of a drawing, so why noy spend more time practicing the first few minutes? Finishing a drawing is time consuming but doesn't require as much skill.

beg makes me laugh everyday

>>4892339
one of the questions i have is about this kind of exercise. how are you supposed to pull the grid off? is it all eyeballed?

>>4892343
this is a simpler version of the same idea.

>>4892339
no advice but these are clean i love them, keep it up

>>4892343
scott robertson teaches this in "how to draw"

>>4892347
Thanks wgmi
>>4892352
Thank you!
Years ago i went through that book and don't recall him discussing this sort of grid . Whereabout is it in the book?

>>4892355
the beginning

>>4892343
Not sure what you’re asking, are you asking whether you should actually grid up your vanishing points and use a ruler etc? I think the idea is that you practice proper grids etc with proper vanishing points to get used to 3d space, then once you get a better grip you can roughly sketch ideas freehand and then fix it with proper vanishing points etc as necessary afterwards.

I’m not a teacher at all by the way, follow courses. I’m just working on perspective myself at the moment too

>>4892049
thanks
>planeporn guy
thought I'd seen it all

Live figure drawing pls crit

>>4892343
>>4892352
>>4892359
No. This is coser to "framed perspective". You just have to understand the visual rays, learn to freehand them and use them as a guide for the rest of your drawing.

when does drawing start being fun?

>>4892409
After you can draw basic forms in perspective.

>>4892409
As soon as you have the basic skillset required to complete any given project with at least some proficiency. It's not going to be universally fun until you gain a very high degree of mastery in my opinion. It'll always depend on the subject matter and whether or not your capable enough to figure it out on your own yet.

>>4892409
It became fun for me after 2 months of grinding for four hours a day and hating myself. Once you get to the point where your drawings look better and better every day.

>>4892342
I mean he's mostly right though. Most of the fundamentals are applied in the early stages and there is certainly value in doing a few hundred gestures as opposed to a single "complete" drawing when it comes to learning rapidly.

>>4892399
On first pass it looks great except perhaps the shading is a little rough.

2nd pass, the shoulder girdle is fugged up. How can the far shoulder be higher while the far boob is lower. The far leg is bigger than the near leg. Feet are different sizes.

>>4892435
may I see something you've drawn? please?

>>4892456

I started in february and I've been practicing a lot>>4891474

>>4892439
yes i agree but op asked how to get better and measurments/likeness and i said take your time, then some anon sperged out LOL DONT LISTEN TO THAT GUY SAYING DRAW LESS DO 100 FACES ANON, like???

>>4892457
oh that's yours. That's very impressive! I saw that and thought to myself, that if I was this good, I'd already be happy with myself.
Please tell me you've come this far without reading Loomis. Nothing is less discouraging than "fun with a pencil"

>>4891973
The figure is stiff.
The perspective is off. Try thinking in 3d the next time you sketch.
use more values and colors to shade. Your rendering looks very bland and unfinished.

Some other /beg/tier poses. Currently studying spirit of the pose from Karl Gnass

How to make this appealing?

study for fun

I messed up her right eye adjusting it and her whole face looks a little out of line.

her left leg looks off, not enough foreshortening? I'll post the ref

gonna go back to drawing basic shapes in perspective, and working on line confidence

>>4892502
ref

>>4892468
I have read Loomis's books but I didn't grind all the way through them. The loomis head is okay but the mannikin is useless.

Here's what I did:
Drawabox simple forms lessons
Lots of gesture on CroquisCafe and Quickposes
Bargue plates (probably the most important thing)
Drew lots of heads and studied the individual features of the face
Copied artists I liked- dana gibson, mucha
Watched Huston and Vilppuu videos

The most important thing is to draw a lot and not get discouraged. Practicing > not practicing because you're worried that your practice isnt the best/most efficient.

Thoughts?

>>4890060
It's clearly indicted in every /beg/ thread ever posted

Hi guys, i dont know a lot about shading and values i've been working mostly on line art. Do you guys know a good resource to learn values and shading i'm more interested on shading faces and the human figure. Thanks, you guys are great.

Day 2
Keep trying to make charaters but they just end up turning into OC's.
Also how do you guys got rid of the scratching while drawing? Will i just drop it with time?

>>4892514

Hey man i never heard about bargue plates. I did a quick google and found this drawing course charles bargue with the collaboration of jean-leon-gerome and i think the name of the author is ackerman. Is that what you were talking about or there is a better version?

here's a yugioh card

>>4892587
now here's two yugioh cards punching each other

>>4892581
Yes. You put the original drawing side by side with your drawing paper and copy it as exactly as you can, same size so that you can easily spot mistakes. It will teach you how to copy a reference image accurately.

I got offered money to draw a family of four. I know I'm not very good at drawing so I don't know how much I should ask for. What should I say?
>>4889769 is me

>>4892598
Can you draw four people in the same image of the correct relative sizes?

>>4892588
the gesture, expressions and perspective are very good, linework... not so much. it's messy and values are all over the place

>>4892598
"yeah that'll be 100 bucks"

>>4892598
do 10 bucks each, 40 bucks total.

>>4892588
You need fewer and or more orderly lines. Its hard to see what's going on in all the chaos.

how do i stop making my work not look like chicken scratch?

It’s unfinished doodle. Critique pls

Study in Pitt pens.

>>4892631
Not sure who the original Artist is... I'd like to do another study on larger paper.

>>4892604
>>4892610
yeah you're right. i went too overboard with the lines.

>>4892590
Thanks man.

so i just started drawing with drawabox, when do my lines stop looking like shit?

>>4892691
When you keep doing them until they stop looking like shit. Having shitty lines doesn't mean you can't make great art.

>>4892691
Are they supposed to be straight over each other? Draw the first one fast to lay the track then slow down for following lines. When you learn guitar you don’t just shred straight away, you play it slowly until you can do it right then progressively speed up. Same here

>>4892625
I was going to ask the same question, I'm also guilty of oversketching.

>>4892715
I do t understand how this is a question. How do I stop drawing 100 lines? Just don’t. Draw one line. You can sketch lightly to guide your shape but your final line should be the real one. Stop doing 100 final lines

>>4892698
>>4892711
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/4
i'm doing superimposed lines with each line being redrawn 8 times on top of eachother while drawing with my shoulder.

It tires the hell out of my shoulder and im being really hard on myself as i have high standards on myself just wanting to go forward and draw weeb shit but every video ive watched says to stick with fundamentals which is hard to wrap my head around as it is

>>4892722
Literally just slow down. This is like lesson 1 of dynamic drawing too. Slow down, you’re doing it too fast

>>4892718
The thing anon, is that I feel like the next line is always better than the previous one so when I look at my bunch of lines I can see the best one but for an outsider it just looks like a mess.

>>4892794
If you can see it then draw it

i hate being /beg/
get me out of here bros

>>4892808
cant turn to your bros bitch, get grinding

>>4892808
Master Perspective
Done

this is such a polished turd that i'm not even going to do the head

>>4892839
Unless it’s dynamic perspective most people will suck ass with figures and gesture. Let alone composition storytelling and color.
Art is just hard

>>4892840
i guess it looks a little better with thinner outlines

>>4892722
Anon
Do you know how to read?
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/superimposedlines
>This exercise is pretty straight forward. As shown here, start out with a simple straight line with a ruler or a straight edge of some sort.
>start out with a simple straight line with a RULER
and
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/8/fraying

Stop Rushing
Take your time
and if you need read 3x the instructions

>An art student must be a master from the beginning;
that is, he must be master of such as he has. By being now
master of such as he has there is promise that he will be
master in the future.
by Robert Henri

>>4892868
damn anon, aren't you going to introduce us?

>>4892496
Looks like you are not skilled enough to actually fix it, move on to the next picture

>>4892603
>>4892605
>>4892608
This is what I did. I feel very bad about it and don't think I should charge for this.

>>4892873
>Do you know how to read?
apparently not, guess i'll do the assignment from scratch and repost later.

>>4892625
>>4892715
Vitruvian drawing basics.

>>4892952
Do it again then, try using the loomis method or block in the shadows before you start the details.

God i can't wait until its like 5 years later and I can actually fucking put ideas on a paper and have them come out good

hair is hard

>>4892990
the hair is literally the best thing though...

>>4892885
to who?

did you get 1% better today anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJwZLTztg5s

>>4892631
I really need a B4 size Scanner... A4 just isn't cutting it.

R8 pls

First time doing digital and coloring too. The thing that bothers me the most is the shadows, anyone got a good source for learning them?.

>>4890525
ok, I'm ready, now what? drawabox?

>>4893107
I especially like the Y

>>4892253
i have, multiple times shitter

>>4893127
The y? Too much of a beginner to know what u mean by that

Would like a critique

>>4893108
>The thing that bothers me the most is the shadows
So the pencil neck, asymmetrical eyes, wobbly lines don't bother you?
Get your priorities right.

>>4893128
What do you want a fucking cookie? Stop being a sour bitch over people asking questions in fucking /beg/

i hate fundamentals I just wana DRAAAAAAAAAAAAW

>>4893140
Do both nigga

>>4893016
I would kill for 1% progress a day

>>4892996
well, thank you, but I still think the way I do it is too disorganized, specially for painting

One of my first serious pieces, It's named trippy palm. Would appreciate feedback :)

>>4892634
"Peter's Denial" Dmitry Vasiliev

>>4893169
Looks good. Some cali fuckboy would probably pay good money for it.

>>4893126
>drawabox
YEP
Learning perspective takes time, especially the beginning and there is a good chance that you will burn out.
https://drawabox.com/lesson/0/2/50percent
But is it worth it

>>4892952
Dude, get the penciling right before you put the pastel on.

If you want a shortcut (this is for money after all and the family cares more about results than process) trace the photo just enough to get feature placement correct.

Having fun. Tried doing a classic actress off google images

>>4893154
would you work for it tho?

I just started using a tablet, is it normal that I can't do straight lines anymore? Or can it be the settings?
They're wobbly as fuck

>>4893212
Reference. Damn this bitch is hot. I got some of the likeness, but it ain’t perfect

More figures. Loomis pg 65

>>4893108
1st Learn Perspective Anon
https://www.deviantart.com/nsio/art/Nsio-Explains-Shading-Basics-647268365
>Remember, the difficult part is understanding the orientation of the surface and direction in 3D space. If you master perspective, you likely don't need to practice this kind of shading at all. On the other hand, shading can be a good way to get into perspective as well, so it works in both direction.

>>4893212
I made this today :D what a coincidence we both thought of marilyn.

>>4893107
it is pretty flat and she looks like a grandma

03/10 - could be worse.

the chin and the collar make a such weird tangent. it is hard to read what is going on there.

>>4893232
How to make it less flat?

>>4893137
The shadows bother me the most cuz I can't eye what's wrong with them

>>4893290
drop shadows for like a year and get some basic fucking forms and shapes down, why do all these begs just try and jump ahead?

>>4893290
Look up the Asaro head. I think there's one online with a 3d model and moving lighting.
>>4893314
It doesn't take a year to start learning shadows.

>>4893348
>It doesn't take a year to start learning shadows
i know im just being hyperbolic to try get it in his head

Any tips or adjustments?

>>4893284
not gonna lie, I don't know myself.

YOROKOBE.
TIME TO DRAW SOME BOXES.

>>4893225
you should draw from reference

>>4892986
I tried again. It's shit again. I even tried tracing some of it, can't even do that right. I wanna die.

>>4893434
You need to slow down and take your time my man - both in terms of drawing slow and in terms of expecting yourself to be good.

Get on a portrait drawing program (Proko is fine if you like video, any number of books are fine if you like books) and spend a year working on it.

>>4893377
I used the wooden figures he has on the page. I'm not sure that counts.

>>4893453
This. If you want too learn portrait drawing watch Proko's videos, they are on the video course's thread, he uses the loomis method.
If you are on a hurry watch his video on how he makes a portrait and try to copy his method.

>>4893453
I've watched his videos, I've tried applying his shit but I can't get anything to work. I want to die.

>>4893489
YOU NEED BUCCI

what do you guys think?

what do you guys think?

>>4893173
>Look him up
>He's actually ALIVE
Holy madre de dios, I fully expected him to have died centuries ago but his career's just begun, well good for him.. I envy his training desu

>>4893434
Triangulation method my fren

how am i doing with bodys. i keep going back to body because i feel like its my weakpoint because i have shit memory.

>>4893613
what clutch pencil is that?

>>4893627
don't know the name of it. got it from 99 cent store

why?

>>4893631
looks kinda cool, I assume its 2mm?

>>4893639
correct

>>4893613
Heads kinda small, stiff poses. Perspective of legs is hard to read because they look the same from any angle, your torsos look better than your lower bodies. Just keep at it and pay attention to proportions.

>>4893434
Charge em 20 bucks, but you're doing better each attempt. Charge em 40 bucks if it looks good

new thread
>>4893723
>>4893723
>>4893723

>>4891110
soul