/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Drawing a friend's D&D character in exhange for food.

Would you trade me food for this?

>>4886644
Pretty good. That is worth 2 food. The proportions on the non-dagger arm seem a bit off though, and I don't think the hands are quite the same size.

Finally feel I'm ready to tackle hampton and Bridgeman boys
my cute maid girls must be constructed beautifully

>>4886644
Not bad anon. You need more work with foreshortening. The hand coming out towards the viewer needs to be larger to communicate this. Having the bent leg be completely parallel to the picture plane looks strange, so you can definitely give her more life by allowing her body to twist a bit.

So try to give her more gesture. Scan through the Force gesture book for some inspiration, and get some refs of hands and legs coming out towards the viewer, and practice it.

Sounds boring but with practice you’ll find it fun and useful.

Don’t neglect drawing good feet, even if they look like shoes, draw them well.

>>4886640
Is that /beg/?
Looks like something coming straight out from Innocent.

>>4886644
definitely

How can I get better at doing things faster? It literally took me about an hour and a half to get to this point in the process. Obviously speed increases as technical skill increases which increases with practice over time. But are there specific things I can work on?

>>4886694
Well, her legs aren’t long enough and you’ve made her thighs too thick and round. Look for break planes at the pelvic bone so that you give her more solid structure.

>>4886694
actually, pay more attention to your basic structure. Ribcage, hips, etc. Things are getting a little wonky there. Build a box around each major mass if needed. Proko's "mannequinization" exercise is unironically helpful here

>>4886694
Oops, to address your original Q, if you focus on getting a good block in and forego doing details like facial features and hands, you can quickly get figures down. So ignore these things. Just focus on good proportions and use some construction method like boxes for pelvis and torso so that you start to build a library of body wedging shapes/volumes in your head

>>4886688
thats the drawing of a man desperate to GTFO of /beg/

>>4886688
/beg/ tier inflation has been a problem in recent years. Nowadays anyone who isn't a professional illustrator/concept artist fits pretty squarely in /beg/.

>>4886708
so... I'm at a professional level now? sweet

>>4886702
>>4886703
>>4886704
Thank you. I'm just using the image as a ref more than a direct copy but actually now I'm noticing the leg length in particular doesn't look right. I did try to do the whole box construction thing and boxes are usually my go-to initial approach but obviously it didn't quite work out here. Looking back at that stage it's way less effortful than I was remembering so I think you're spot on.

>>4886717
pyw and let's find out.

>>4886694
Draw fruits and flora first. Dont start with human anatomy. Learn how to draw organic shapes.

Please help

>>4886708
Yeah I’ve heard the same. The standards for getting out of /beg/ hell have gotten way higher even compared to just a couple years ago.

>>4886750
Ref

I wonder how realistic can I go with this piece, maybe I should stick to cellshading. Whatever look at it!

How bad is this, so far?

>>4886780
not beg, just kidding finish it

>>4886780
What? It's not even finished?

>>4886779
how many joints are in that left arm?

the 250 box challenge unironically improved my sense of form and perspective in the 3d plane
I will tackle boxmen construction tomorrow and apply what I learned

>>4886797
i wonder how many people ended up grinding boxes and boxmen this past week because of that thread

Dynamic Sketching week 1
so the repeat lines thing, im fucking up way too much on this exercise a broom or worm
help anons

I finally finished something else. Break me the bad news....

My 2nd finished thing. Break it to me.

>>4886921
Oops

>>4886867
You're supposed to fail, Han's teaching you patience, discipline and getting usedto failings, when you compare those lines your what you are doing in a week you should see great improvement.

>>4886999
checked and not /beg/

>>4886999
Not /beg/

drapery

>>4886702
>>4886703
Attempted to clean it up a little. Still a little unsure where to go in the rib/chest area. Still feels off to me.

>>4886757
It's been a long time since I've painted digitally. What do you guys think?

>>4887002
Really nice, how do you control your edges so well?

>>4886644
Sure, but only because I'm an OSR fag and that "drawn by a self-taught 12 year-old with a HB pencil" look is right on the money.

Nice hands though.

Might as well post this here too, but I'm not sure what to ask for advice on. I know the body is fucked up beyond help, what about the head and lines? I'm usually not good with pure lineart so this was an experimental drawing in a lot of ways.

>>4887022
I just watched the first few lessons of ctrl+p, so just using an eraser

i'm new, trying to improve, wanna get better at legs and foreshortening, among other things.
Not sure how to describe it properly but I'm struggling with arms/hands, knowing when how long is too long, short too short, how big or small.
Not worrying about feet at the moment, just want to figure out drawing all the way up to the knees first, and how to draw them properly without it looking flat, specially when drawn to the side. Hope i'm making sense here, please be really honest.

Day 1
I'm only doing lines, squares and circles and I feel like a retard. I'm probably not going to make it
-Anon

>>4887072
Don't.

>>4887072
don't do lines and squares the fuck's wrong with you? draw something you actually have an interest in at least to start with. you'll improve motor skill the more you do it!

>>4887072
don't forget to draw some tits too.

>>4887072
fucking retard, why would you do that on your first day?
you can’t even hold a pencil properly, work on your grip first

>>4887072
dont worry, Im a retard who cant do an S curve

>>4887095
kek

>>4887020
not /beg/. get out.

>>4886863
Which thread? What are boxmen?

>>4886863

>>4887104
>>4877952

>>4887103
What are you talking about, that piece looks like a fucking instagram filter.

>>4886863
Every time I try doing it I end up going back to more human figures. I probably need to practice my cylinders.

Is spending an hour or so a day working on Drawabox exercises sufficient? I'm flipflopping between Drawabox and Right Side stuff, and also just occasionally doing a doodle trying to replicate a reference image as best I can, but I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

>>4887118
Practice for 1-2 hours daily is enough, you should draw whatever you want for the rest of the day.
Don't fall into that /beg/trap thinking you need to grind many hours daily.

>>4887072
Draw things you like as well else you're be doomed to NGMI

>>4887123
I'm mostly just unsure of how to "draw what I want", I don't mind the "grind" of doing exercises for now, I just have trouble drawing what I want to since for the most part I'm not really learning anatomy or perspective yet so I can't draw the way I'd like to in any reasonable fashion.
Maybe I'm just overthinking it all.

>>4887110
same, but this time i actually shored up my boxes and cylinders a bit.

>>4887073
>>4887089
>>4887090
>>4887095
>>4887096
>Don't
Okay I'm doing fruit now. One step closer to renaissance

looking less for critique (altho that would still b appreciated!) and more so curious about “does this look good on any level? is this something i could feel proud about showing someone?”... im bad at judging the quality of my own work and im not sure if this face looks horribly amateurish and neanderthalesque or not. thank you!!

>>4887125
do you have an inherent sense of aesthetics and a knowledge of visual ideas that you like? do you know what concepts, images, ideas, you find “cool” or “beautiful”? just try to create things in line with that, stuff you yourself want to see. if its tough power through it, it won’t be perfect, itll probably be really ugly because of your lack of technical skill, but youll learn something and develop your own personal style.

>>4887136
I've slowly been gathering a little folder of art that I think is nice, since when I started someone asked me what I wanted my art to look like and I had no idea.
Thanks, I'll stick to it and just try drawing more stuff I like aesthetically.

>>4887125
Just draw what inspires you, favorite characters, shows, or copy your favorite artists. Don't wait because you're "not good enough", that is a trap mindset, because it is a fact that your standard will gradually changing overtime, you will never be good enough to your own standard, even until the day you die.
Grinding for many hours daily will create a comfort zone for you, a fail sense of "progress", that is a hurdle many /beg/s will never cross.

>>4887141
Thank you, also. I've somewhat gotten past the mental block of just hating everything I draw and have been just drawing to improve.
I guess I was just worried that I wasn't learning anything by drawing without any real goal other than to draw. I'm so used to learning things as a set A to B process that learning how to draw is throwing me for a bit of a loop.

>>4887155
why does she look like she wants to eat my first born

What do you think?

https://youtu.be/4K8f0HFsZlk

>>4887164
what do you mean

>>4886694
Stop caring if the final drawing looks good or not. just draw,if you dont like how it looks at the end erase and start over repetition is good when drawing (Atleast for me)

>>4887174
she looks somehow unhinged and i don't know why. it wasn't a rhetorical question

>>4887192
Yea it's all fucked, I'm awful at anime

Is this anatomically correct? I was told that i draw the lips too low bit i cant really see it

>>4887208
By the way,i know the eyes are fucking huge.

There's too many resources i'm getting overwhelmed. People keep saying just draw but all I do is shit a kindergartener could do. I die here

I don't even know if there is a point in doing studies like this one

>>4887226
Awesome studies anon. It looks like you picked your own colours which is great. I suggest posting in the draw thread from now on, I approve your graduation.

>>4887226
looks nice, at any rate

>>4887259
Nice work on the lens. I think you’d benefit from laying down loose, correctly proportioned lines at the start before laying down all your shading

My brain just short-circuits when trying to do the upside-down Igor by Picasso. I always fuck up the line lengths catastrophically and never manage to finish it. I've done it 4 times now and just can't work it out. Any advice?

>>4887266
that shit is useless

help me

>>4887270
NGMI

>>4887266
look up dorian iten accuracy guide

>>4887266
Right side is useless, get back to grinding your boxes slacker.

How to make it more seductive and induce fear?

>>4887293
>literally traces in his demo
really great guide

>>4887349
Well it worked, didn't it?

Someone give me the autism training pill. Do I just do loomis all day if I want to be good at faces or what.

>>4886863
>spent all this time drawing bodies and faces and other shit
>realized i had to go back to the boxes
:^)

Do I really have to draw this Igor shit?

>>4887432
Stop complaining and draw the fucking guy. It's not hard.

How can I improve my sketching in general?

>>4887432
No, you could do the same exercise with some upside down animu lineart.

>>4887435
Fine i'm drawing the fucking guy after classes. Can I use a goddamn notebook with lines or do i need a white sheet of paper

>>4887457
Just buy copy paper dude, it's cheap as hell.

>>4887457
Generally exercises are best done on blank paper. Go pinch something from a printer.

Currently practicing anatomy through gesture drawing and other resources. Someone told me " if you want to warp reality you first need to know how it works" so every now and then i try to draw my normal stuff. Any tips

I just drew 250 boxes. That means I’m better than you. See you in /draw/!

Hey there fellow pedophiles! What are some good sites to get explicit pictures of children for reference purposes? Forward suggestions to fbiagent@aol.com.

>>4887226
There is, this is a good way to learn more about colours. This also makes it obvious that you're not pushing your dark values far enough (compare your dark trees in both paintings to the refs, they're not as dark as they should be). Your hue/saturation choices are pretty good, though I think some of your shadows are too desaturated (particularly in the left image, the ref has saturated green shadows that create a nice contrast to the orange light; your shadows are too gray).
You can also use this type of study to experiment with brushes/edges. You've got good variations in opacity but you'd benefit from using some textured brushes in some areas.

What are colours? What is light?

How I am exactly supposed to draw from observation? I am trying digitally but I feel like I am doing everything wrong

>>4886924
Is this like a ref or somethin or did somebody here draw this?

>>4887553
you gotta learn construction also I wouldn't start with humans apparently is what I hear the most. I'd work on doing plants or fruits, work on your lines and practice loomis.

Last week I've decided to start learning art seriously and picked up a drawing tablet (a simple, small wacom)

So far I'm having a really rough time drawing with a tablet. When drawing on a paper my art skill is simply lacking, but when I do it on a tablet I feel like a drunk 5 year old. I simply don't "feel" what my pen is doing or going to do, and I don't "feel" the shapes and forms on the screen the way I feel them on the paper.

Been bashing my head against this for 3 days now - am I missing something important or do I just need to grind more hours and that's it?


Strange thing I noticed is that if I use the simple microsoft paint I actually get much better feel for the lines and forms that I draw, not sure why.

>>4887174
she has the star of David on her bow, of course she wants to eat that guy's first born

>>4887578
everyone has a rough first time with digital art, you get used to it. just practice both paper and tablet

>>4887593
lmao

which book should i start reading first? fun with a pencil, drawing with the right side of the brain, keys to drawing or hampton figure drawing design and invention?

>>4887549
pick up anatomy for sculptors my guy. stop letting the coom rule you

WIP

How I'm doin?

>>4887683
Stop posting in beg, idiot.

>>4887675
Keys to drawing and drawing on the right side.

>>4887686
i still have alot to learn, don't think im out of beg yet

>>4887675
Don't even bother with DotRS, Keys to Drawing is all a /beg/ will ever need.
FwaP if you want a little more details about construction.

>>4887691
why are you replying for me?

>>4887691
Gmi

>>4887691
I honestly think people worse than you should stop posting in /beg/ too, but we already had the /int/ experiment and we see how that went. At this rate, soon you will need to be a professional full time artist to leave /beg/.

>>4887698
What happened with /int/?

I never come to this board I just was curious about something. If I just wanted to draw anime shit instead of proper human anatomy and detail, should I still go through Loomis stuff, or is there a better place to look just for that kind of stuff?

>>4887700
Crabs spammed the thread until more half the replies were crabbing and nobody wanted to discuss art in it anymore.

>>4887698
Int is a fucking meme. Draw and alt are not advanced.

>>4887698
Thanks dude, but there isn't really a board out there for me

>>4887701
geroge bridgman better

>>4887702
huh that sucks

>>4887704
Case in point, the entire thread was replies like this. Now we are stuck with a /beg/ thread that has people who just picked up a pencil and people who have been drawing for 5 years.

>>4887725
I mean is that bad?
We can help the newer people,
Teaching can also help you understand since we're honestly not too far off from them

Well at least i'm not

>>4887734
That's a fair point, but it's also incredibly discouraging for genuine beginners to see our work basicly advertised "I just started out just like you haha"

>>4887259
based soviet rangefinder subject

Yeah, no. Fuck this. I'm tired of drawing boxes and I'm not drawing a fucking upside down picture of a hack that did fucking cubism most of his life and profited from retards.

>>4887752
That's some peak NGMI cope. How can you expect to perfect the fundamentals if you think you're too good to learn them in the first place?

>>4887752
Draw what you like

>>4887752
Well word of advice
Just draw what you like and slowly incorporate those fundamentals.

Think of it as vegetable, you gotta eat them, but forcing yourself you won't enjoy it.

Find some sauce to go with it, like draw something you like but throw in perspective or anatomy

>>4887737
Well they shouldn't compare themselves to people who literally spend 8+ hours a day drawing

>>4887758
Eat shit
>>4887759
>>4887763
I can get behind this
Fuck Picasso

>>4887752
Good.

Put a bunch of objects in front of you, preferably next to a window with sunlight coming through it, and draw them as you see them. Create an outline out of objects using straight lines, no curves even if you have a cup or a mug or a mouse or whatever.

Next, look at where the shadows are. Block those in too, both shadows on the objects and the casted shadow on the table. Similar deal, straight lines.

Shade in the shadows with some nice dark and even tone, and compare what you did. Pay attention to your angles and placement of whatever - is the cup tipping over too much? Is the handle not in the right place? etc etc. Fix these mistakes, and then get more objects and do the same.

Literally grind these objects to your heart's content, and then move onto photo references when you're sick of that.

The sticky is horrible, the upside down example makes sense in a different context (seeing abstract shapes as they are). Placing it at the start of the sticky, however, was a stupid fucking thing to do.

Draw stuff around the house, read up on how to sharpen your pencil, get a nice big fat paper block (18x24) of nice smooth paper, and just go to town.

Post your shit once you're done.

t. tradcuck

>>4887752
You gotta grind for those boxes gainz son

>>4885504
Can someone answer this please and thanks.

>>4887784
Not sure what "rules" and "techniques" you're referring to but observational drawing is about copying what your eye (or eyes) see. Usually people choose to close one eye to prevent bifocal errors from showing in the perspective of the drawing, but anyway...

What's the use of copying? By itself nothing. The drawing as a drawing doesn't have any value. But it has bigger implications for you.

You can't draw something that is out there in the real world without having a good idea of what it looks like. More complex things are usually made up of many simpler things, so learning how simple things look, plus learning how they are combined, is pure magic.

You can look at something and kind of try to remember it and draw it at some later time - and this is a valuably skill called memory training - but the most guaranteed method of having it stick is to draw it as soon as you can, while it's in front of you and you can figure it out.

Underneath all of this, by drawing what you see in the real world rather than from a photo, you're developing your sense of how perspective looks to a human, rather than to a camera with lens distortions.

Drawing eventually becomes "easy" and rote, so then the challenge is to find shit you want to express and your own way of expressing it rather than simply copying what you see. At that point, you're well on your way to being /int/.

>>4887006

>>4887851
Very good fix up.

Her breast isn’t lined up nicely it’s too high. Curve her rib cage so that the breasts line up. You’re doing well.

Continue refining it. Get some hard edges in there to complement the soft curves. You want some pinching

>>4887168
bruh, people find it very hard to take your opinions and critiques seriously because your work isn't that good. its not even that your opinions are bad, but no one cares about them because we've seen your absolutely mediocre /beg/ level art. you gotta work on improving. maybe focus your channel on your own progress. and dude, why not go on a diet and get a hair cut and some nice clothes? why make fun of your own looks? fix yourself up.

Picked up dynamic sketching and draw a box and stopped drawing animu unironically cause of yesterday's threads

>>4887877
how did the threads influence your decision

>>4887881
I realized that if I dont learn how to draw from life and understand how realism works I will end up like the dudes who draw animu for 7 years and all they can show for it is being able to draw a girl at only 2 angles in a profile shot

>>4887849
Makes sense. By rules and techniques i'm referring to the differences to the drawing styles. Observational or traditional drawing seems to be more "free" when it comes down to drawing, as in the most important thing is drawing what you see and so most of it's "rules", or the way you're supossed to do thing lie in observing, whereas usually, when you draw "regularly" you're aiming to make a good drawing per example good linework, clean drawing, etc. I probably already answered the question myself. Wanted to know -why- the style or emphasiz previously mentioned is so different between the two previously mentioned "styles.

>>4887891
Gmi

>>4887208
From the thumbnail I thought this was an alium. For even an anime girl youve pushed the facial proportions too far.

>>4887891

Shit, I guess you showed up at the right moment then:

>>4887777
>>4887849

Continue to do Dynamic Sketching stuff but don't get caught up in trying to construct before using your judgement. Get the visual impression of where things are that you see with your own eyes, and then build construction geometry on top of it, otherwise shit won't look right because the perspective will be wrong to begin with.

Han's exercise using cross contours is also great. Lots of wisdom there in studying how one form wraps around another.

>>4887877
Copy pics of anime you like/Draw what you want alongside practice anon, or you'll just burn out and might just drop drawing altogether

>>4887771
Fuck you in your asshole, you cunt!

>>4887896
These aren't opposing things though.

I think what you might be referring to is seeing all those observational figure drawings that look like dogshit thinking that's how they are supposed to look like, whereas in reality it's mostly that the artist never bothered practicing tight linear work and doesn't know how to pull it off, and hasn't really done much work aesthetic work with lines.

If you take someone like Vilppu as an example, his drawings I guess would fall into the "traditional" thing you refer to, they very often don't really follow the reference, but the line work is intentional and calligraphic. He's using line weight as language.

So it's not a this-or-that sort of thing, at least not to me. It's this AND that.

>>4887797
Good forms but work on line and shading quality. You have chickenscratch.

>>4887683
Flounder mouth.

>>4887553
Try doing bargue plates. They are designed to teach you how to draw accurately.

>>4887549
Absolutely hideous.
>>4887489
Hard to judge gesture on only one chest-up doodle.

>>4887333
Look up what a woman making a seductive face looks like. This one looks like she's smiling for her yearbook.

>>4887278
You're fine keep practising.

>>4887264
Nice
>>4887131
Looks decent but hard to tell from something so unfinished. May impress normies.

>>4887062
Hand is same length as chin to hairline, divides in half at the fingers.

>>4887032
Looks good enough to me
>>4886779
Arm is sprouting from her chest.
>>4886750
Looks good keep practicing.

>>4887006
Are you intentionally changing the pose? You're drawing ass fangs that aren't there in the pic. Model's legs are far closer together. Model's right leg is much straighter. The right foot you drew might be throwing you off too. Should should be facing the viewer more. I see you paid attention to the negative space between her arm and body though - Nice job.

For me, it helps to do these poses in person in front of a mirror. It helps you see how your body has to move to accomplish these poses.


>>4887002
Really nice. How do you get those textures?

Am I ok at shading yet ?

>>4887935
>Hand is same length as chin to hairline, divides in half at the fingers.
Not that guy but thanks for the tip! My hands are always so fucked up.

>>4887891
>2 angles in a profile shot
Isn't profile a specific angle, though (from the side)?

>>4887006
Don't be afraid of straights or sharp turns.

I can see the forms and organic shapes that make up things but I cannot physically draw them to save my life
does the transition from brain to paper just come from mileage or am I disabled

>>4887992

see >>4887777

>>4887556
I drew it. Tried my best with no reference.

Finally done, what do you think?

>>4887935
Chicken scratching isn’t limited to wrist movement?

>>4888002
Pretty tight dude, the trees in the background are the only thing that's pretty offputting but the rest fits fairly well within the style. Also the bricks in the bottom left are a bit too weird, even with this style.

Does this look like a male or female?

>>4887926
That really makes sense. I'm going to start trying to make observational practice cleaner looking.

>>4888018
It looks eh
learn loomis unironically just make the lower half rounder and add the pointed chin
Also learn some basic rendering it goes a long way in making your animu more appealing

>>4888018
looks like anime

>>4888033
I know it looks eh. It's my first day. I just wanted to know if it looked female or male. I'll read loomis on vacations or whatever. For now its just boxes and fruit and anime faces.
>>4888038
Good

>>4888002
>Oh? You're approaching me?

>>4887945
it's like somebody took all of the different parts of a face, rendered them MASTERFULLY, and then cut them out and pasted them in semi-random places on another sheet of paper.

Seriously though, some of the placements seem off and the hair needs a bit of work but this is really good.

>>4887701
How to draw anime books is great for day one anime hobbyist.

>>4887701
if you want to draw good anime instead of mediocre anime, then you'll definitely need to study some form of anatomy and figure drawing. Generally the recommendation is that you learn realistic drawing first, then move into more stylized areas once you understand how to simplify.

what's the best way to go about starting on gesture studies? Is it best to do those before going to anatomy?

>>4888099
I would recommend starting on gesture studies.

>>4888015
Thanks. I will try to practice my trees a bit. I'll probably have to find some better references first though.

>>4888049
I can't stab the fuck out of you without getting closer (because my spear is way too short actually)

>>4886640

>>4887208
ayyyyy lmao

>>4888018
yes

>>4888018
no

>>4887701
in theory you should be able to learn anime directly, but in practice all anime books/courses are shit, so you are much better off learning basic anatomy and apply it to anime doing studies.

Is perspective good enough?

>>4888144
>>4888115
>Not A tier, but also not beg
>Posting in beg
>The state of /beg/

If we're being honest here, guys, for every 4 actual begs, you see 6 non-begs (now this is me being genuine. Keep in mind, /int/ isnt perfection, its only after somebody gets the basic fundies down, which usually takes 6 months of studying). Should the /int/ thread be re-created? I mean, the people who picked up drawing only because of quarantine are gone now

>>4888214
>its only after somebody gets the basic fundies down, which usually takes 6 months of studying
hahahahaha it's always the most retarded begs who get saltiest

>>4888214
ive been trying to make an int thread for over a year. every time no one posts there. no one will just give normal crit. you get one or two people who say "this isnt int its beg" and then the thread dies. every single fucing time. if you want to make an int thread go ahead. watch it happen again.

>>4888269
my problem is that /beg/ standard is so fucking broad that the word feels like a shitpost crab mallet more than a identifiyable range. Competence varies greatly across medium, subject matters, etc, and to just go lol perma/beg/ this and NGMI because a general threatens board cultures and anon's that will shit on you yet won't post their own work in return is just fucking tiresome.

Going to draw every page of Bridgeman in order to get good.

>>4887937
>How do you get those textures?
>texture
that’s literally just soft round, hard round, and a hard eraser, see >>4887058

>>4888219
What purpose would I have to be salty lol, im just stating what I see. Beg threads are going to become a meme soon because everyone is advancing constantly, yet no new people want to join bc everyone else in /beg/ is apparently a beginner just like them yet are seemingly so much better.

>inb4 "pyw"
There. I know its nothing top tier, and if you want the truth Im mainly here to learn how to render and to fix some anatomical issues with hands, feet, and skull structure that I have (which is why I opted for the mask on the character to the left). There, roasted myself so you understand why IM in this thread, but why I also think it would just be better to have an /int/ thread so I could post there to fix the few small issues I need to work out

because i dont have time to do paintings anymore, ive decided to just start brushing up on the basics. just trying some 'stylized' sketch/value studies

>>4888295
Git gud back to /beg/

>>4888313
those are some real stumpy bois anon. Enlongen them and they'll look a lot better. Remember that the groin area marks the halfway point in a figure's height from head to toe as well.

Some studies of Obstetrician M anatomy. I want to exaggerate anatomy like him.

>>4888432
blog? I feel like I recognize this art style..

>>4888432
Not /beg/

>>4885721

>>4888423
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

So im just wondering if I generally did good here? i did this one from imagination, and honestly, shapes help a ton with imagination drawing since you're just putting a 3d object in an imaginatively 3d space slowly constructing the mannequin one perspective shape at a time

Just need a redline if I got anything off with general anatomy

How do I better?

>>4888464
do 700 more

>>4888464
reference

>>4888460
looking back at it I think I need to lengthen the thighs?

>>4888434
Obstetrician M. He makes figures.
I just studied a couple of his figures from twitter.

>>4888477
talkin about YOUR blog dummy. You're obviously not beg

>>4888480
giraffe shitposter is unironically improving. What do we do anons???

>>4887725
i said it before /int/ and i still think it's true.
/beg/ should explicitly rebranded as /edu/ or /practice/ or something similar.
having higher skilled people showing that they're still practicing and working to improve isn't harmful to raw /beg/s, it's good for them, but it doesn't fit in a "/beg/" thread so it leads to shitposting.

something feels kind of really off about this,what should i do? also i have no clue what to do with backgrounds ever

>>4888495
sticky

>>4888341
You literally want segregation because you're too shit and too beg to see the begness in people who are better than you

>>4888464
Easy answer? Bigger canvas

>>4888502
Honestly never thought of it as segregation but ur probably right. Stop being faggot crab though you piece of shit

>>4888496
?

>>4888510
>stop being a crab
No, stop demanding coddling for your shitty scribbles, it's not other's faults your fragile ego causes you all this anal pain. Read the sticky like everyone else or shut your faggot ass up and join some reddit circlejerk

Page 2.
At the rate I'm going I'll probably be able to finish in less than a week.

>>4888518
:C

>>4888521
you are completely missing her back forms, you just ignored the lats

>>4888432
Mostly ok but what's with the tits straight out of "the oblongs"

>>4888513
>>4888495
Read the sticky it's all fucked in every way imaginable and beyond fixing for your level

>>4888432
those shins don't look like crazy enough arcs for obstetrician m.

>>4888518
How about you pyw and prove you're not /beg/ yourself or better than the other guy

fuck me

>>4888549

>>4888536
did i just post it too big? i never really use 4chan that much im sorry. and beyond fixing for my skill level? idk what that means im sorry

>>4888469
i think bigger issue is that you're fudging the joints. most of cylinders are ending in ambiguous blobs, be more decisive.

>>4888554
Ignore that crab.

You need to work on your perspective more. Thats why the drawing looks weird, it's flat.
Read perspective made easy and you're drawings will be great.

>>4888570
thank you for the tip, i was wondering why it looked so uncanny

>>4888554
>and beyond fixing for my skill level? idk what that means im sorry

it means you are attempting art that is way beyond your skill level, go work on your fundamentals which you can figure out how to do through the sticky

>>4888313
Lmao. You drawing dwarfes anon?

>>4888580
ohh ok ill definitely work on some studies, but yea ive been trying to post every day for my ig so ive been really lacking.

>>4888464
>>4888549
SOVL

>>4888214
no, we shouldn't spreed ourselves too thin

>>4888591
what?

I'm over 50% done. Is this a stop while I'm ahead or is it salvageable?

>>4888598
even if its crap still finish for practice, try finish every piece

>>4888598
Looks cool.
Color it next.

>>4888518
>>4888502
>>4888219
pyw lol

>>4888627
You got the right idea but make the lines more straighter.
It distorts the perspective.

>>4888627
Use line tool or hold shift (or shift+click)

>>4888211
No critique?

/beg/ was made so beginners can't ask pros for tips and pointers lurking /ic/

>>4888638
Make it a finish drawing and it will be easier to give critique.

how do I render?

>>4888672
Work on your gesture more. Those drawings look way too stiff.

Read Scott Robertson How to Render and you'll be CSR tier.

>>4888542
>radio silence
Every. Fucking. Time.

>>4888668.
I guess "critique" is not a right word, i am looking for advice regarding perspective of the gun and major masses of figure.

>>4888672
I would fix the perspective first. Rendering is about making your scene look believable in a 3d space and there's too many things not making sense rn that would result in a polished turd. Draw some perspective lines and check the landmarks and curvature of your subjects.
Or just fucking go ahead and render it anyway at least you're posting work and finishing pieces

what do you guys think of my painting?

>>4888633

>>4888680
>>4888683
I will, thanks for the feedback.

so now that ive done fruits organic shapes and draw a box how should i tackle the human figure
Gesture
Anatomy
Construction
is that order fine

>>4888689
Looks flat, the drawing needs more volume and the perspective could use some fixing.
Good work on finishing a piece at least.

>>4888708
For fucks sake anon, there's more rhythm in the dicks than your actual figures, what on God's green earth are you doing?

When we do we get to draw-

>>4888708
don't give dudes hourglass figures

Page 11. Other pages were just text.
Hoped I fixed the manlet issue.

>>4888758
>>4888761
Loomis

>>4888776
I'm confused. What exactly are you hoping to achieve by just mindlessly copying examples?

>>4888789
You get good by copying the greats.
Frank Frazetta said he learned anatomy by copying Bridgemans books.
If I grind out the books then I'll get good.

>>4888801
Way too chicken scratchy.
Work on your line confidence.

>>4888789
>he thinks you actually need to read the books
lmfao

>>4888808
well that was dangerously close to a get

>>4888807
>>4888813
Line confidence.

>>4888542
>>4888681
shut up and read the sticky

>>4888542
>>4888681
we are all begs here

>>4888495
The way the edge of the sword lines up with the edge of her right arm creates an unpleasant tangent. The same is happening with her hair that's flowing into her left forearm and it makes the composition weird. Here's a link that explains what I'm talking about better. https://willkempartschool.com/compostional-mistakes-in-drawing/

>>4888625

>>4888833
>>4888823
o ive seen you! Ha. Most good artists arent complete douche fucks but oh well, there are exceptions. Sometimes ego just hardcore inflates

>>4888625
I would ask you to post your work but you probably don't draw anything

>>4888754
>>4888772
I was using the giga chad images as reference, they look rather stiff.

>>4888823
Based

>>4888836
I am no artist

>>4888836
some people get sick of the whining

Page 12.

>>4888873
You're not going to improve at anatomy if you're not actually learning the forms of the body

>>4888877
The book teaches the forms.

>>4887683
do you have a blog dude

>>4888878
not when you don't read and apply what it's saying. it's not teaching through osmosis.

>>4888882
Obviously I read too as I draw.
Post your work.

>>4888884
we literally just spoke about ego lmao

>>4888878
Then draw the forms?? Why are you just copying examples? You're not going to convert the shape of the muscles and how they link to each other into your own knowledge if you essentially just keep copying the examples. You need to draw from reference of actual people as well as from imagination.

>>4888889
The point of art books is to draw from them.
That's what the pros do, that's why books are in the sticky.

>>4888897
They are examples to show you how your practice should look like - not for you to mindlessly copy 1:1. It wouldn't be so bad if you were actually constructing the examples, but you're evidently not.

>>4888897
based retard

>>4888899
>>4888900
Crab.

>>4888899
my uncle would copy random anatomy books all day long when he didnt have television. He would go to the library and draw just all day, copying from the books but also, remember to, when you are copying, remember why the image you're copying looks the way it does. "oh why does the bicep look like that here? *moves arm in that position* ooohh I see." sure, its not just about copying, but copying is a method of learning

>>4888884

God i can't wait until I can actually draw animu

How's my character design? pretty good huh?

>>4888919
fk

>>4888920
I hated those fuckers in ds2

>>4888741
LOL that's from boogie nights

>>4886640
Going for chrome

>>4888905
Did your uncle make it?

i got the references saved if you can give me some critique. im trying to avoid details and focus on whats actually there such as connections, joints, and overall structure.

>>4888937
and i have a wooden manniquen to use as a guide.

>>4888931
dude. You have no fucking idea. People say kim jong gi was good at 17 but holy fuck so was my uncle

>>4888951
Nice, how bout you?

I FUCKING HATE LOOMIS I HATE IT IT HATE IT I HATE IT
FUCK LOOMIS

>>4888549
congrats you're good at capturing likeness, that's the hardest part. good shit
other guy is saying " soul"

>>4888672
read the sticky

>>4888758
>>4888761
oddly appealing, you need to go back to the basics though, read the sticky

>>4888916
based but read the sticky

>>4888920
based but read the sticky

>>4888929
actually impressive but needs more black, on the right track keep doin what you're doing

>>4888937
read the sticky, dont use art as an excuse to hoard " reference " nudes

>>4886640
Still learning to draw thots from angel ganev tutorials.

>>4888937
I'm beg but have heard those wooden manniquens aren't good, but who knows
The ribcage block doesn't look like it's tilted backwards

>>4888836
>Most artists aren't complete douche fucks
Lol, because most artists aren't honest.

You guys aren't begginers at all. What the fuck? Where is the real begginer threads

>>4888964
understood great sage. i will read the sticky.
>>4888972
on the contrary, i get what you mean. but i like them because there's less details than the other plastic ones with "realistic" features. and thus easier to simplify.
>>4888977
fuck you im beg as it gets REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>4888956
im gettin there anon. If I was just not so fucking lazy I would be getting there faster. I used to draw a bit when I was a kid so I guess I should thank my current self for making me not total /beg/ and I pick up stuff pretty quickly luckily. UNFORTUNATELY I draw fur shit so yeah

>>4888977
You are beginner until you are employed in art, anon

>>4888977
if you have been drawing for less than 10 serious years you're a beginner

>>4888977
Everyone here is /beg/ they have not made money or create any form of value with their art. Getting likes and followers does not mean shit. If you cant convert people to sales.

can I get crit please on anatomy, perspective, and appeal?

>>4889004
isnt that characters anatomy just whack in general? I think only an anon who's really looked into her anatomy can tell you whether you're off here. Got any figures?

>>4888796
Frank Frazetta was a 1 in a million genius, so that doesn't count

1, 5 and 10 min studies. I've started working with pencils lately, it's pretty annoying.

>>4888838
>>4888833
"C", at best. Nowhere near good enough to talk the kinda shit yur talking.

Had me thinking yur shit was gonna be Murata lvl.

a friend's character

>>4889026
not him but now im curious what YOURS looks like xd

>>4889026
>didnt post shit
cringe

>can't get into loomis and perspective

>>4889031
Soul!

>>4889026
shut your gay ass up scared little nigga

>>4889053
>Head= Circle
min 27:24
https://youtu.be/egCx3dgGYDI?t=1644
and
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/2/continuous

>>4888796
frazetta was a bullshitter.

I feel bad about this one

>>4889100

>>4889100
Looks cool, almost like one of those court sketches.

>>4889083
those are some dang cute fuzzerinos

>>4889100
Could be worse.

Make sure you supplement drawing from photo refs with drawing from life, because the distortion in that photo is fucking wild.

Now for the crit.

Over all head proportion and jaw line looks good, maybe slightly overstated but that's fine.

Biggest thing to focus on at the moment is the line quality. Make sweeping lines rather than short strokes. Use your forearm and your elbow when you're drawing. If you need to, get a bigger pad of paper like 18x24 inch, and rehearse drawing a line from one corner to the other in one motion, not too fast not too slow.

There's a shitton more to comment on, but one thing at a time. It's better to get the mechanics out of the way first that way i'm not telling you to fix the face when you don't even know how to make proper marks.

>>4889100
looks better than the ref pic

>>4889026
this but unironically, high/beg/ is still /beg/.

>>4889104
Thanks.

>>4889153
>>4889026
the post said that the guy was too beg to recognize other begs, which is what you are doing now kek

>>4889157
Sorry that I wasn't impress by the nigga that posted work, but /beg/s shitting on other /beg/s when they are /beg/ themselves is retarded, /ic/ wants high standards but never wants to be consistent it in judging what is /beg/ and its gay.

>>4888598
Why not post this in the manga thread?

>>4889191
>but /beg/s shitting on other /beg/s when they are /beg/ themselves is retarded
ur retarded tyhat was the entire point, it started with a shitter beg saying better begs should leave beg you beg

>>4889213
Don't call anyone retarded when you type like a dumbass.

And this place has the nerve to shit on reddit

>>4889227
>>4889231
I challenge you to a draw-off .

>>4889201
Tried. I get no responses on my roughs. I seem to only get negative commentary when it's too late to change anything, sadly.

>>4889227

How to improve?

>>4886640
is this any good, any feedback would be welcome

reminder that if you can't draw the 4 basic forms in perspective from memory you need to revisit them

>>4889235
How about challenging yourself to read the fucking sticky so you can actually get out of /beg/.

>>4889404
nice dodge pussy lmao

>>4889513
Being called /beg/ sure got you mad

>>4888888
checked

new thread >>4889718

new thread >>4889718

new thread >>4889718

>>4888672
this is disgusting. not because of sex but the way you drew the faces

>>4889100
i think the issue is that she is wearing so much eye makeup, that she isnt recognizable without you also drawing it. her left eye looks too small on your sketch, but it isn't too small, its just that you didnt fill out her eye lids the way she did. same goes for the eyebrows. you tried to draw average eyebrows, hers are hairs af.

>>4889601
call myself beg all the time, it's why i post here.this whole thing is a battle a few retards like you are having with their own insecurities

>>4888444
You gotta work on the pelvis Anon. What you have there would be fine for construction but if your drawing is on a skeleton this isn't very accurate.

>>4886640
Best video courses for gesture drawing?

>>4889281
It’s a decent start but you need to work on keeping the perspective consistent. The ears are too high up on the head compared to the angle of the face, the crotch is drawn more like you’re looking down at it when it, which is inconsistent with the rest of the body.

>>4889601
>being called beg
this is the /beg/inner thread, retard. we're all beginners here.
that's like calling a Japanese man Jap, in Japan, when you're both Japanese

T-thanks for using my art for OP. didn't see it until now