/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4861929
not sure if these are worth cleaning up. are these styles of faces appealing?

>>4861967
NICE
I
C
E

>>4861967
i recognize this reference

>>4862007
is this based on some manga or is it just some original work?

>>4862011
No. It's some random ass drawing.

>>4862020
aww, shame

>>4861974
I like the middle and right one.
The left one is kind of uninteresting.

>>4861929
>>4858511
Yeah, I got issues with that too. Kinda sucks.

>>4862007
Artist name?

>>4862117
saeki316

>>4861967
>>4862007
bruh

>>4862128
its asg, what did you expect

>>4862128
I wasn't trying to imply that my drawing was original. I just wanted to post what I did.

>>4862196
No. He's pointing out you barely put any effort.

>>4861967
/lsg/ is that way sir >>4857977

>>4862202
sorry i'm /beg/

reposting in support >>4851223

does anybody have the original tutorial image on how to draw like funamusea" seen in the study image?

>>4862007
why do fujos get away with it?

Anyone following Pin2D tutorials?

Also how to cope with being artistically retarded?

>>4861974
I actually like all 3. They've got charm.

>>4862313
I don't. Im just miserable all the time

Giving ink a shot.

It's incredibly fun. The more I do it the more I'm growing to love it.

>>4862308

>>4862324
i love how ink looks so much anon you're an inspiration

do you pencil first or only ink?

>>4862411
Sometimes, it depends if I'm trying hard or not. For the stuff I posted on a few I did general shapes or points on where to end some lines. Couldn't be bothered for a wash so I did a bit of pencil shading for the mid tones.

and thank you, there is something really special about ink, took me almost two decades to give it a proper go, or be skilled enough to start even learning

>>4862418
i've always loved how ink looks so that's my primary focus right now but i'm ultra beg working on forms and hatching/shading still ;w;

>>4862490
you'll get there, anon

it's evident that you have passion, that counts for a lot more compared to just solely focusing on studying

if i can give you one tip out of anything; don't let go of the wonder and joy when creating

I got bogged down in studying pretty much everything, and as a result inspiration, imagination and passion died. It's recovering now but treating art like a job or a chore is a dangerous mindset to have. Just keep going and don't stagnate with one thing/style/medium

if you're happy with what you create, cherish it, and aim to make something even better next time

>>4862532
blog?

>>4862541
no

>>4862498
you're right anon, and I need to focus on that but it's hard because at the beginning i feel like I hardly know what to draw since I'm not yet studied well. Quick question, would you recommend sticking to really basic fundamental stuff until you feel like you're good enough, or would you recommend supplementing some sort of more fun/advanced like faces/features along the way?

>>4862532
is that you lolichad?

>>4862573
Yes, I guess?

>>4862532
She's got boy hips

>>4862569
i'd suggest a grab bag of everything

it's fun for me to study masters and see the great chasm of skill between them and me, and i use it as drive to do better and learn more despite not really doing the studies well most of the time

so to say you should only stick to the beginner stuff is just putting you in the slow gear of sorts, feel free to tackle anything you wish, for the harsher the task the greater the knowledge gained from it

fundamentals are very important, and definitely the sticky and anons here have plenty of resources for the general path of development, also don't skip on perspective as most seem to do, it's a crucial piece to make it all look proportional and in place

unironically just have fun with it, i understand it's disheartening to fail at understanding something, putting in hours and seeing no progress or little, having nothing to show for it but frustration due to not understanding -- but at one point things will just sort of click within your mind, and once that happens its with you forever or till you actively change it, so even the hours of misery are important on the path for those are the hours one must put behind them in order to progress

there are pitfalls of doing advanced stuff early, mainly symbol drawing, but i believe if you are actively working on trying to understand and progress you will not stay in that pitfal for long

Hi, I was wondering if anyone would be down for redlining this WIP.
I'm having trouble with the chest area and I'm still trying to figure out how to properly draw the folds in her shirt.
Any further tips would be greatly appreciated.
Source is Makima from Chainsaw Man.
Thanks in advance.

>>4862532
Fucking beautiful and I don't even like lolis.

>>4862774
wtf is wrong with your brush? stop chicken scratching

Any books of you guys can recommend me for drawing eyes in different angles for anime and realism?
I figured that Nakamura Seichii hitokaku would be a good start, Im just wondering what you guys would recommend
t. newfag

>>4862951
ryo hirata. look in the archives for his books

>>4862573
No.

>>4862954
thanks, and to anyone else who replies

I'm planning on going hard on anime studies because my characters in general are pretty unappealing. Made this sketch completely from imagination to remember where I'm starting from. I'll make another one every month to gauge my progress. Right off the bat I'd say some proportions like the head and arms feel a bit wrong, I have no idea how hands, legs and feet work and my shading skills are non-existant.

>>4862774
I am not too good of an artist myself so excuse me if I am not the one to answer this, but I don't like seeing earnest requests get no replies.
In your picture you asked about the chest area. I think when drawing the chest you have to consider the anatomy when the character is in movement. Lifting the arms will affect the chest muscles. I don't really see that in your picture. Also the right arm feels odd, maybe move it a bit forward.
About folds I would recommend watching pin2d series on folds. Might help. Folds are hard I also am still learning them.

>>4862356
thanks!

>>4862532
what are these? and how do i retain that kinda of hatching?
i seen a few artists do this for their lineart just to add a bit of depth to their picture, and i honestly love that?

>>4863257
it's just ambient occlusion to indicate less lighted areas

>>4863257
Just hatch, nigger.

>>4863259
aaa, i figured it was something related to ambient occulusion.
i'll keep the last bit of that sentence in mind.

>>4863257
That's not ambient occlusion. It's to ease out lines and show sharper planes

>>4863276
oh really? that's something to hear
never really understood all the stuff about planes and such desu.

>>4862912
>he doesn't know what line-finding is therefore it must be chicken scratching

Tried coloring a drawing I did a few days ago..
It's super basic since I don't know much about coloring, some hints or pointers to where I fucked up or what I need to work on would be appreciated. Not too satisfied with how it turned out but also not sure what to do to improve it.

>>4863390
One of the thumbs is backwards

>>4862912
fuck off draw a box drone

>>4863390
tits are misshapen, can't coom

>>4863394
>>4863401
Yeah now that you say it.
I just sometimes stop seeing these things.

What about the coloring though?

>>4863428
I'm not an artist I'm just a fapper; the coloring seems fine to me, but that navel looks like something out of one of those disgusting hentai where the girl becomes a prostitute and fucks ugly uncles

copy more tranime

>>4863431
I was absolutely not aiming for that look be assured.

>>4863428
>What about the coloring though?
It's too basic. There's not much to say about it.

>>4863444
I see, so I assume it's okay-ish.
That's basically just what I wanted to know.

I'll keep practicing to color in a more advanced way in the future.

>>4863045
Thanks for the tip and especially for that youtube channel.
Cheers, friend.

>>4862775
>lolis
what?

does drawing anime really hamper your progress? i have a large collection of resources to study, but they’re focused on the burgerland industry like what you’d learn in california and i want to git gud fast. how am i supposed to practice right?

>>4864311
without fundies expect to progress very slowly

>>4864311
Resources don't help that much in my experience. Just follow your heart and use your head for everything else.

Trying to into gengoroumaru render. Not a study, just trying to emulate on original picture.

I know it's garbage but I'm curious either way, so do your worst.

I'm finally done with my arm studies, I think I'll take a day or two later on to improve on my hands but frankly Doppel doesn't have a lot of artwork where I can base detailed hands from so I'll have to wing it 1/2

>>4864980
These are my own, I'm both excited and scared of moving on to faces, I love doing faces it's where I have most fun drawing but it's also the most frustrating because of eye angles, trying to emulate 2d eyes on a 3d plane is my worst enemy but I'll try my best. 2/2

>>4864646
Those arms are mega short

give anime tips to a beginner i want to draw a manga

>>4865137
read araki's book

>>4864805
i know that feel

>>4862324
Polite sage

>>4865238
Thats a lot of hellsing
now draw loli alucard faggot

>>4864664
That strong neck tho

The ngmi General

>>4865244
I'll give it a shot later on in the day.

>>4862356
Thank you

>>4864646
looking like the short big eyed titan from AOT

>>4862775
>those tits
>loli
Based retard

getting frustrated with my progress, this is the furthest I come without losing my motivation, think I could redo the lineart and add variation tomorrow, colors and backgrounds are still a mystery to me.
Could anyone give some feedback, what should I focus on next, is something way too off?

>>4865243
that's pretty good, color for lightning and shadows are nice, the eyebrows don't seem finished though?

saw this in a walmart yesterday

gave me warm feels little kids are drawing anime and that corporations are featuring them on art supplies

>>4866293
Well the shoulders are a bit too wide, pr the waist is too small. You also placed the hips too low I feel. Maybe work some more on anatomy and proportions?

>>4866579
or*
But other than that you're doing a good job I think. Keep it up!

How do you guys make the linework look anime-esque. I can’t do it.

>>4866596
Put pen pressure on size, not opacity. That's it.

>>4866607
ref

>>4866607
>>4866614
are you archer anon? I'm rooting for you

can i get some critique on my tezuka shonen jump manga contest entry?

https://medibang.com/book/8w2008300825468250016614576/

>>4866668
looks lame as hell

>>4866668
anon...

>>4866668
really now anon

>>4862532
Very aesthetic

>>4866621
yes and thanks anon means a lot

>>4866738

what?

>>4862532
a-anon

>>4864664

>>4866668
Wip merc the comic?

>>4866293
drawing lacks depth.
the whole thing screams "front view" but you have to remember that even in front view you have perspective.

>>4867010
gesture drawing?

>>4866579
>>4866584
thank you! yeah now i see it too, tried adjusting it a bit, still seems weird

>>4867581
hmm ok, I tried leaning her forward a bit, but then the shoulders appeared too wide

are you talking about the pose specifically or more the colors? maybe I could make the feet and the right hand a bit smaller still

>>4867649
actually the stairs were the bigger issue.
as for the body, maybe try to imply some foreshortening on the arms. you could experiment with the curves of the watch or the sleeves.

>>4867653
ooh you're right, ok, will do!

Hello, please be nice
I tried veri hard, no bully

>>4867743
utterly soulless

>>4867743
why draw the same girl 4 times instead of once, but good

>>4867743
favorites are the two right ones, looks like you made more progress every time

Can someone tell me where I fucked up here?
Tried following a tutorial but it didn't turn out as expected. Used a transparent watercolor.

do you digital anons use a screen tablet or one withou a screen?

>>4867856
what tutorial did you use, can you link it?

>>4867953
Sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyzFwaUqIUE

What confuses me is that even though I used the same colors it turned out brighter somehow right? Not sure what caused that exactly.

>>4867973
I think the shadow straight to the bellybutton looks strange (even in the original) i would only put that in if the belly is folding, otherwise only very lighty
maybe try to soften the edges more on the belly-buttonshadow side, using lighter shadow tones and define the forms, i always use different references so i can kind of guess where to put the shadows

not sure about brighter colors, only notice the lack of variation as i mentioned, otherwise it looks good

>>4868021
Yeah I can see what you mean, it looks a bit sharp. I'll keep the hint for different references in mind.
About that straight shadow, I think I've seen something similar on proko once but I could be wrong. What you said makes sense however, the figure seems too straight for a shadow like that right?
But anyways, thanks for the response been some good insight.

>>4867806
YwY Thank you

>>4867796
So, next one will be better. I can compare what I did wrong, and redo it better.

>>4868068
>YwY
What the fuck am I looking at..

>>4867856
if you cant tell what's wrong that means this tutorial is a little too much for your current level anon.there are so many think that don't look like the original.study fundamentals,in specific planes of the body and anatomy leave rendering alone until you understand the subject

When I'm first learning to draw from reference, should I still try to construct things? Or should I just draw lines/contours? I'm very beginner and I want to draw more for fun rather than studying constantly but it's a bit hard to know how to start when I can't draw for shit

>>4868086
See what fits you better. Some artists like constructing, some don't.

>>4868086
Yes that's what reference is for
It only guides your figure drawing its not for you to make a1:1 copy of it.
Though to people who don't know construction or might look like just a copy

utterly soulless sketch i did after fucking a prostitute
my life feels empty

>>4868628
it has plenty of soul.
you can't draw tho..

>>4868628
chicken scratching
Were you a virgin? Was it worth it?

>>4863260
but i'm terrified of hatching and it always makes things look worse.

>>4868079
Retarded emote I just made up, my fren

>>4868628
I like it

CSP users what pens do you use for lineart? I'm using standard G-pen and no matter how much I try to practice lineweights it still comes off as terrible and soulless.

anybody else feel like drawing anime is weird, because you're adapting a foreign artificial style that you didn't come up with yourself?

>>4868866
don't worry about it and just draw.
G-pen used to confuse me as well, but then i realized that its strength is LITERALLY just that you can make both super thin and super thick lines. nothing more, nothing less.

imo lineweight is something you decide on, the pen just mirrors that preference and the G-pen just happens to be the most versatile.

>>4868932
no, you're just simplifying everything but making eyes glossy and over the top

>>4868942
then there would be no difference between western cartoons and manga, but you can obviously tell them apart

>>4868708
no and its never worth it anon ever I could have just bought more copy paper to draw with

>>4868932
>like art style
>don't use it because it's foreign
based
>don't use it because you didn't come up with it yourself
cringe

>>4868941
Ok. Is it smart to just adjust the G-pen size as well? Like use 9.0 for thick, 5.0 for standard and 3.0 for light?

>>4868628
Don't anon! You're gonna get the pest

>>4868945
yeah, one you read from right to left, has japanese ideograms and is grayscale

>>4868866
learn to play with curves and the brush engine. try turning off size pressure jitter and use starting and ending for the auto taper. velocity jitter can also help with something like 30-50 percent minimum size jitter.

my main line brushes are custom ones i've made by modifying the defaults or creating my own tips. i've made most of them act like photoshop rounds. don't worry about line weight that much, it's really hard to get the weights you want with digital. the easiest ways are erasing to get what you want or lowering the jitter a lot so the lines are more consistent.

i like this a lot as a pencil, linework, and even as an airbrush
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1702962
the real gpen is great to modfiy, i've turned mine more into a rough brush pen
rough wash watercolor brush can be turned into an excellent line pen
real pencil can be a great pen or noisy airbrush for texture

Here is a collection of Fishine/Ireading Sketches/Work in Process and Comics I have collected over the years if anyone wants it..

>https://mega.nz/folder/ZppHUBYa#26915HzT-ZjKocIYLAUUVA

>heads are getting easy, actually easy to draw

i might gonna make it...

>>4868987
no, that defeats the point of using a g-pen imo...
use pressure sensitivity to get the line you want. learn how to control your output.

set it so that you're able to hatch thin and uniform lines with a light stroke. at the same time you want to be able to draw much thicker lines without pressing too hard.

>>4868866
かしペン

>>4868987
using line tool on a vector layer and then modifying the lines with the width modifier tool is faster

>>4862775
Where the fuck do you see a loli? I see a small breasted tomboy

>>4869361
The artist draws loli

>>4863259
>ambient occlusion
Wtf
No, those lines show how form is turning in space

>>4868086
Construction 100%

>>4863257
Think of them as a "soft" line. A hard line in any of those areas may be too definite. Thin hatches at an angle read to our eyes as a somewhat wider grey area. In actual ink they require practice to get really perfectly spaced / thin but digitally you can just throw the brush width down a couple steps and go real light.

>>4869258
Prove this

>>4869258
>>4869381
Also provide tips

>>4869384
Not that guy, but it just takes time. Or, rather, you just have to be consistent and make that drawing a day or whatever it is you do. Exercises are exercises, study is study, construction is important, but if you don't attempt to do what you want, over and over again, you'll never do it right.

>>4869390
post your hands

>>4869415
my hands look like they're from a renaissance painting

>>4869570
where's the penis??

>>4869570
good work but whats that bold black squiggly shit under her right pit supposed to be

>>4869623
I didn't notice it was there until I got to that part.

>>4869073
>https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1702962
Thanks anon. is this called the Manga Pencil?

>>4869105
>1.5gb of fishine
you've done a good thing here today anon, thank you.

>>4864980
>>4864983
keep at it, i might take your step and do a bit of artist study myself as well.
also the faces art the fun part, just remember to structure first.

>>4869105
>Fishime
godspeed you asshole
i just want another Unlove and Childhood Destruction book already

how do you adjust a LOOMIS skull for big eyes? just about every attempt at construction for me ends up with the eyes too close together or otherwise not 3D enough

>>4868866
Here some quality of life tip.

>>4869603
Fuck off faggot

>>4868628
It's veri nice, just compare it, and draw it again until it looks good enough.
Be mindful of what looks off

>>4870127
Not like that bro damn

>>4869105
Pretty neat.
How does he only have this little patreons the fuck.

I'm gonna need to draw a lot more to figure out how tf anime works in terms of construction (only did realistic proportions before) but this is a lot of fun

>>4870127
ive been wondering this for a while and ill tell you a little secret, anime faces in general are relatively flat especially females.

>>4861929
>https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD
is there a torrent of this?

>>4870152
>fishine
uh that's what i needed, thanks

>>4870990
ignore fishine

>>4870992
why

>>4871028
because i said so

>>4870431
This reminds me of some style but I can't quite pinpoint it..

>>4871071
take

>>4871076
Yeah looks pretty neat.

Don't know if you guys already are aware but the new Hololive English youtuber Ina is a professional artist and she does drawing streams and teaches about her process, worth a watch if you're interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFQot-w_CrA

>>4871625
watched her stream once and her heads are okay but the rest of her anatomy is beg tier lol

>>4871638
based dunning kruger beg

>>4871638
not at all though? shes literally a professional who does art for multiple companies, i don't wanna doxx her but if you look you can find her.

>>4871643
Looks like nagu

>>4871645
...uhhh

>>4871646
So was I right? It's the only person I know that fits the criteria.

>>4871625
Ah yes watch 2 hours of her stream until she talks about the process
>>4871638
do you really need that much for clothing though?

>>4871684
>do you really need that much for clothing though?
Do you really need to know about the forms that are wearing the clothing and making all kinds of complicated wrinkles and shit? Hmm I don't know do you really need to know anatomy to draw clothing well? Hmmmmmmmm.....

>>4871687
>>4871684
stop arguing about stupid shit and get a life faggots

>>4871687
thanks for the answering an /sqt/ question anon

>>4871689
Shut the fuck up. Whether you need anatomy for drawing clothing is a legitimate drawing question. And the answer is yes absolutely.

>>4871700
ok? obviously you do. do you really think you're arguing with anything other than a troll?

>>4871703
whos the troll? I actually needed that question for drawing?

>>4871714
kill yourself

>>4871718
>vtuberfag getting uppity

>>4871643
>dude only has one leg
A+ anatomy

>>4871871
I laff

any good documentaries or books about how an anime studio is run
I'm a bit interested in the process

>>4871983
it's hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LgHOUTZ8Gc

>>4872008
ouch I couldn't do that man
9 hours for a 4 second background pan?
Fuck

>>4866668
I think it's cute. Reminds me a bit of art from the 80s. Keep it at anon.

>>4865238
Good stuff. Do you have a blog?

>>4866668
man I didn't know there was a Tezuka contest, even Toriyama and Oda are judges, respect for entering!
it's nice, the artstyle does really convey the tezuka old-school manga-style. How long did it take you to finish the chapter?

little funny though that the rabbit's reasoning is "if it's carrying the weight of two passengers we will not have enough power" when it could have stayed small in the first place and that should have worked? maybe it's just evil, and in the next chapter after it gets defeated it will get saved after turning small again, otherwise it's cool!

>>4872008
>japan has government funded programs to train animators and make anime
it hurts brothers.

>>4872243
I dont think I could do it bro
Unless I cared for the property im adapting drawing disposable moeshit every day from 10-2 seems like hell

>>4871625
>Vtubers are the go to content for learning jp in djt threads
>Vtubers are now also the go to content for learning drawing
Think I'm gonna make it lads.

>>4872267
neck is really fucked up and out of place on the left one, really really high and doesn't socket into the semi-realistic torso, collarbones too v-shaped. not a huge fan of how you handle the lats going into the armpit and the weird shape it makes. the peg legs on the right looks really weird and pushed too far back in perspective, ugly lat/armpit shape again, neck is better, the inked pec into the delt really doesn't look right when you have it mostly right looking with the shading below it, forearm/elbow up seem completely fucked shapewise and not in proper perspective. i think you're pushing too much on symbols/formulas you use to draw details that no one cares about but you that they distract from the design of the body shapes and make it really hard to look at your chars.

>>4872247
Would still do it in a heartbeat if I had the skills, now working an 8h shit-job that has nothing to do with art and spending the whole night drawing wouldn't make too much difference, only that I could be part of something that motivated me in the first place until I drop dead.
Lol pretty sure drawing cute girls is one of the reasons to even start in that industry at all, imagine only working on some Free-dudes or rending some background 3d-tires for months, that would be hell.

The real despair comes from all the porn-fanart-artists who take those cute girls from others hard work and make probably as much patreon-money in a whole month than the whole crew of animators earn.

>>4872296
being an animator slave for 12-13 hours a day is some stupid weeb dream you have. it doesn't mean you can even draw well and you get paid as bad as a high schooler working a part time job. you sure as hell would want your 8 hour job back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvj-XnVKQI8

>>4872310
that's just how japanese are m8. i've done an internship over there in a diff industry, with the full 100+ hour workweek experience. it's obviously not an ideal lifestyle, but even people without nip genes can manage it for a half year stretch.
somebody young in animation would be an absolute maniac to turn down that kind of offer.

>>4872310

Lol I make more than a Japanese animator makes in a week than they make in a month doing a crappy Japanese vn on patreon.

>>4872345
I mean its definitely possible I know a few guys who work at Pierrot but chances are you'd be stuck on naruto or some mass produced anime of the week garbage and have the shitty frames to do
You'd probably also need basic fluency in jap

>>4872375
i thought we were talking about the video and the opportunity to do key animation under yoh yoshinari.
the dudes in the video were already on the shit inbetweener grind, so it was just pure upside compared to what they were doing, but really, anybody should jump at that kind of opportunity.

>>4872310
of course you need to know how to draw well, without all sorts of knowledge of the human body you couldn't animate shit, especially as a key-animator, if you want to do get into painting then maybe you shouldn't do animation in the first place, as the other anon said the work hours over there are bad in many other industries as well, just because you are used to less work-hours slaving doesn't mean it's impossible. I never denied that they get paid like shit, I'm not defending that, still there are enough people doing it because maybe it really is their dream as animators to get featured in stuff that people enjoy.

>>4872267
Serious question
Do you just wing your anatomy when drawing?

neat tutorial for rendering metal

>>4872731
What is the meaning of this graph?

>>4872767
it's the curves editor in csp

>Draw a rough, looks good
>Draw the lineart
>Draw details
>Correct a few things
>Compare to rough after a few hours of drawing
>It's worse

How did that just happen

>>4872787
post it

>>4872731
>>4872767
>>4872778
Imagine not having gradient maps

How does this kind of shading work?
I've tried to imitate it but I just can't really get it right.

>>4873209
Feel the fucking forms with the lines

>>4873216
What kind of pen though.
Tried g-pen but that was not it.

>>4873234
Black round bic

>>4873237
NO way retard

>>4861929
hampton literally said to change standard proportions when drawing anime. so how should i study anime proportions?

>>4873245
By changing what YOU need. We can't tell you. If you're drawing a 7 year old girl her proportions are going to be lean and small. If you're drawing ugly bastard hes gonna be meaty and wide.
Use your head bro there's not a tutorial for everything just try it

>>4873234
because you're a filthy gaijin and will never master a g-pen, use one of the baby nibs instead high nose.

>>4872787
>>Draw a rough, looks good
Considering you go through many stages of mental, in guessing you draw loosely first which is why you fill yourself into thinking it's ok

>>4873370
Of drawing
And
Fool yourself
Idk why it auto-corrects

>>4873245
How did anyone figure out proportions at all? Just find some art you like and start measuring. How many heads tall are the figures? How high are the eyes on the face? Etc.

Also it's not like there aren't already how to draw manga books with various sets of proportions just get one of those if you want a rundown.

>>4873245
How to draw anime books of old give you basic guidelines on typical anime proportions, look into that.

>>4868628
hollie i want to sniff your feet

>>4873209
>>4873234
looks like G-pen though. and maybe the maru for the hatching.

the process is not that hard, hatching is time consuming, but not hard. if you can paint shadows like this then you can also crosshatch like this.
in short: you probably lack the fundamentals to render the form correctly.

>>4874389
based and lineartpilled, blog?

>>4874394
@home1172

may use for coloring practice later

let's make a baseball team /asg/

let's make a baseball team /asg/

second one

>>4874431
This one's the better of the two. Torso is too short though, its a literal 11-year old girl's proportions. and no 11 yr old has boobs that big

>>4874459
The torso here is horrendous. Learn to draw constructively. Build your drawings in layers, from gesture, to simple forms, to secondary forms, etc. You need to seriously rethink your whole understanding to drawing. Get the vilppu vids from the first link in the video course thread and study them for the next year. Do Figure studies every single day. quickposes.com and line-of-action.com are two good sites to use. Seriously, every single day. Forget copying anime for now, or relegate it to a small part of your study.

>>4874397
cool stuff

>>4873768
Still got much to learn..
Got it then, thanks for clarifying.
Have been working on lines with gpen, I'm sure it will look better once I learn to properly control them.

>>4874656
Those aren't even the same person

It's so stupid that guro isn't allowed on this board.
Art is art and there is such beautiful guro art out there aswell.

>>4874656
pyw

>>4874389
Nice copy

>>4875396
thick not madoka

>>4874656

thx for the hot tips even though you misquoted

This guy got published by major book print in my country. They're literally selling this in big stores around the country.

What do you think?

Here's the whole comic on tapas:
https://tapas.io/series/Clownfish-Twister

>>4875693
Looks like something you´d find in /beg/

>>4875693
I don't give a fuck, you envious little faggot.

Thoughts on legs and head?

>>4875918
Needs vilppu

>>4875918
I like it. Your proportions are decent

>>4875918
Make the legs like teh original with her right foot forward and it will look less awkward

Not mine, but is this anatomically correct? I really can't tell.

>>4876055
FISHNETS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>4875927
why though, weak gesture? too flat? bad anatomy?

>>4875965
Thanks, I still struggle with anime proportions because I'm used to just copying my reference.

>>4875966
I tried to go with the original pose but I just couldn't get it to look right. Tried to fix it using another reference.

>>4876083
forgot to resave the image

>>4876083
you really should do some time in gesture. that will also help you understand this pose better.
notice how her upper body is completely leaning back in the image and yet you tried to make her push her ribcage forward which resulted in more of an S-curve pose.

as for anatomy:
the armpits are wack. remember the muscles that connect the arm to the body. from the front you got the delts and the pecs (which you drew, but a bit high imo), and from the back you have the delts and all the other muscles that come from the shoulderblade (and the lats, although they're not always prominent). you didn't draw those.

>>4875918
That man body

Not my drawing, but is the deltoid(shoulder muscle) on this wrong or is it right in perspective?

>>4876424
it's fine

>>4876424
The placements is correct, but the shape doesn't look quite right.

zzz

>>4876573

any feedback?

>>4876591
Needs loomis and some vilppu

>>4876591

>>4876590

more leg

>>4876611
Nice

>>4876591
if you want to draw cooer art and get noticed you need to be actually good at anatomy because coomers wont coom to shit art when theres things 9999 better out there, so they are used to hq art, if coom art is what you want ofc, saying that you need a ton of loomis, use refs and grind your boxes for perspective/construction.

>>4876065
Settle down tableguy

>>4876647
I hope that's the sketch because the linework is horrid.

>>4876647
Very cute

>>4876668
Didn't think i'd need to say it but yeah it is a sketch

>>4876678
thanks

>>4875693
Was about to post her work in a "bad art thread" but it got deleted before I could.

Garbage

>>4877466
loomis vilppu huston

>>4877482
pyw crab

Trying to break down drawings from my favorite artists and then reconstruct them myself by using construction. Does it look somewhat correct? Sometimes I feel like I'm completely blind when it comes to proportions and measuring.
also switched over to digital (bought CSP when it was on sale) so I'm having some trouble adjusting myself to it

>>4877728
and here's the image without my clutter

>>4877728
you are thinking about the right things. but it's more important to experiment yourself and see if you are applying it all correctly.

>>4877752
I'm trying to do that right now as a matter of fact, pic related
I just wanted to know if I was on the right path

>>4877729
Nomura?

>>4877768
Yep.

>>4877762
Nose is too short

>>4877762
it's definitely the right approach. at least in my opinion. but you need to learn other angles as well, but this is a start.

although this is the right approach, this isn't necessarily as easy as it sounds. for example you drew the eyes a lot larger than the reference. they are a lot narrower.

in the ref you an stack maybe 5-6 eyes to fill up the face below, in yours you can do 4 at most.
being able to judge distances and proportions correctly is a fundamental skill that needs to be trained.

>>4877783
I didnt try to copy the actual ref, only the construction behind it. I just drew from imagination on top of the construction to see if turned out alright

>>4877794
i get it, but you were trying to figure out the style, right? isn't that the point?
i'm saying that even if you set those guidelines, the result can vary because there is a lot of information that is still missing (like the "height" of the eyes i mentioned in my example)

>>4877808
That's true, and what you said about my eyes being larger than the ref is also true (bad habit of mine)

>>4877831
fuck, wrong gen

>>4877728
Here's what I got out of it

>>4875693
This is like yaoi hands mangas but drawn by a tumblerina

>>4877728
ur the guy who made the blog post right hows the progress coming along

>>4878507
Learning gesture and figure drawing right now along with perspective grinding (also transitioning to digital like Ive mentioned earlier in the thread)
To be honest, progress is slow and I'm getting kinda frustrated by it but I'm not giving up.

>>4876424
too round

ez does it

Started drawing and learning CSP 3 days ago without prior knowledge about art, hoping I can make it.

Can someone help me figure out how to configure these brushes? Seems to be from an older clipstudio version.
Also he seems to use some kind of texture for the left brush right?
Kind of doubt ill get a reply here, but worth a shot..

>>4879564
it's the rough pencil and watercolor brush which is just a hard round with color mixing on by default. they're both circle tips.

Pretty satisfied with how this one turned out.

>>4861929
It's cringe and gay isn't it?

I know I fucked up with the ribcage.

>>4879667
Watch the chin. It's not too bad but he looks a bit too chinless. Nothing too major once again but keep it in mind please.

It could also be that I'm not familiar enough with shinji, maybe he's designed like that.

He could use a sprinkle of chadness in the chin area I think.

>>4878575
legs (thighs) too thick. try to keep more space for the crotch area.

anime girls usually have quite a lot of crotch space from what I've learned.

>>4878298
>>4878414
Well, you just corrected yourself there.

>>4879065
Too much variety in the line thickness I think, and also the lines overall should be a little thicker.

If this is one of your first drawings you should be able to make it.

>>4876647
smol eyes I think. Hands could be sized a tad up. And her left hand is just wrong.

The drawing looks very good at first sight, so that's a really good thing, but without coloring, the lines are hard to read. Even a very simple and fast flat color would help I think.

>>4876516
The drawing needs to be progressed into a further stage to do a proper critique.

>>4876424
Doing the pose and looking at my own deltoid it 's a bit wrong but it's in a grey area I would say.

>>4876092
Good except for the face. I think the feet would look better if they were a bit smaller. But maybe those are sneakers.

Tits are a bit too saggy for my taste. iirc torpedo tits are genetically the most attractive, but I have doubts if this is true in the context of general anime stylization.

Regarding her left hand pose, I guess it could pass but I don't think that's a "natural" pose. If you would ask some girl on the street to pose, she wouldn't hold her hand like that.

But I get it hands are quite a bitch to draw.

>>4876055
Probably not, I think her left leg would twist more towards the viewer, but let's be honest you don't need to have every drawing 100% anatomically correct. And her right foot to leg area is incorrect, but that doesn't matter as much because the overall "flow" is correct enough I guess.

Correct enough to get internet likes and people to commission him I think.

>>4874431
yes, hips should be placed a tad lower I think

>>4874459
no

>>4874389
yeah, kinda. pretty good.

>>4873209
looks good.

>>4872731
Thanks

>>4871933
Her left arm could look kinda short.

>>4871625
thanks.

>>4869570
could use some work

>>4868628
Yumi from Senran Kagura?

>>4879690
Is this better? Ref on the right. Didn't attempt to copy it exactly.

>>4879790
Maybe it's more of a cheekbone and forehead/eyebrowbump issue.

Maybe it's just the eyebrowbump.

I'm not super sure either.

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