/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4870153
just do what you want and if she doesn't like it who cares? don't be a fag.

>>4870153
draw coom art of her

>>4870153
Break up with her, drawing coom will make you money, money will get you better life and better gf.
Leave that hole and find a better one.

>>4870159
my mind is telling me that but my heart can't do it, she made me into who I am today, without her I wouldn't even be drawing in the first place

>>4870161
that doesn't give her authority to tell you what you're allowed to draw

there is only one answer for people who tell artist what to draw or not to draw

>>4870164
This >>4870161 anon you deserve someone who accepts you and what you enjoy doing, you will resent her if you stop drawing coom art to continue the relationship.
Either way take the decision that will bring you more happiness in the long run

>>4870161
>she made me into who I am today
what you are is pussy-whipped
you’re crying on 4chan about your gf not letting you draw something
let that sink in

anyway, do you actually want to draw porn or did you just get memed into thinking it’s better money?
if it’s the latter, just stop being stupid

>>4870175
she even said that our relationship won't last long if I keep drawing coom. What's stopping me from breaking up with her is that I feel somewhat responsible because she moved all the way from her home country to be with me and ditched her 2 kids. If I just heartlessly tell her to get out, she would probably have a mental breakdown because she has no family here and would have to move everything back to her country.

>>4870185
You see how desperate I am, getting opinions from you guys, I don't even have any friends that I could talk to. I actually enjoying drawing coom because it's the only thing I get praised on, I feel happy that people like my work and supporting me and it's something I never got from my friends and family. She keeps telling me to draw anything else other than coom but I just can't do it, no passion, no drive.

>>4870210
>draws coom for validation
ngmi

>>4870210
>because she moved all the way from her home country to be with me and ditched her 2 kids
what the fuck

>>4870169
>>4870210
She should know her place, which is to support you in your endeavors and to get back in the kitchen.

If she's making you drop that she's probably a bitch. Be a Chad like Frazetta and tell her to fuck off. What are you going to do cheat on her with a drawing?

>>4870210
>she moved all the way from her home country to be with me and ditched her 2 kids
>I feel happy that people like my work and supporting me and it's something I never got from my friends and family
RIP

>>4870210
You seriously need to turn your life around. From the looks of it drawing is the least of your worries right now. Clean your room!

>>4870210
It seems you already know how to do, you are just afraid to do it, I'm sorry to tell you this anon but you will have to be a man ( I don't want to sound mean) and break up with her , just make sure to hide the knifes and have a plan in case you need to lock yourself in a room to stop her from killing you.
No person who truly loves you would put you an ultimatum for something you love to do, it seems like if it wasn't this there would eventually come something else in your relationship that would split you 2.

Good luck anon, don't die. And remember there is someone out there who will love you and accept you with your coom art, you will just have to make an effort to find her.

>>4870230

>>4870238
>No person who truly loves you would put you an ultimatum for something you love to do
So you’re telling me if the love of your life told you she really loves having sex with her brother, you’d be ok with it

>>4870245
To the average person your SO having sex with another person causes you suffering, I'm not sure if to the average person your SO drawing porn would cause the same response.
If in both situations (or any situation) 1 of people in the relationship is experiencing some level of suffering for the actions of the other it doesn't matter who of them it is, if it's something that the other person wouldn't or should stop doing the best course of action should be to end the relationship.
So either anon breaks up with her or she will break up with him, but it's best if he does it since he would be more prepared for it.
> love of your life
If she was the love of your life she wouldn't put you in such situation or from her perspective she would have found someone who was ok with her having sex with her brother (or maybe her brother is the love of her life), it seems that either way they aren't meant to be, and both of them can find someone who's a better match for them.

>>4870269
>your bf being shadman doesn’t cause suffering to normal people
how socially isolated are you? 99% of women would be mortified of their boyfriend being a cartoon smut peddler

>>4870153
next time she messes with your business kick her in the face

>>4870238
>it’s ok honey, you can go be a stripper because I love you and that is your passion
>>4870269
>ummm actually this causes me suffering and if you loved me you wouldn’t strip

>>4870210
your gf sounds like a manipulative sociopath

>>4870153
Gib her da coom

>>4870210
Is this 90 day fiance

Could someone remind me why OP is asking for relationship advice on an art board? Is this really what /ic/ has become?

>>4870275
So you would end 99% of your relationships, I don't see the problem? you will eventually find someone.
>>4870280
I don't see what you are trying to point out.

It's quite easy, one should always aim to maximize his/her own happiness, if there is something between you and the happiness you get rid of it, it seems like he enjoys art so the obstruction seems pretty clear to be his GF, this goes the same for the incest example.
This of couse only works as long as you follow the law, a pedo isn't justified in raping kids to maximize his happiness since he's causing considerable harm to children the same goes for a killer.

>>4870275
Would you consider 99% of women to be suitable partners?

>>4870210
Just keep drawing anon or try to hide your drawing

Tell her to model for you and that every coom image you do is based off her. Problem solved. If she can't accept that then pussy whip her into submission.

>>4870210
>she even said that our relationship won't last long if I keep drawing coom.
Ask her what is so destructive about you drawing coom.

I could understand her criticsim if you were addicted to gambling or addicted to drugs, if it was something that would seriously affect the future of a relationship. All you are doing is drawing, what she needs to see is that you enjoy it and it is harmless compared to other things you could be doing.

My girlfriend has interests that I have no interest in, and I have interests and I draw coom art that my girlfriend has no interest in, but what she understands is it makes me happy to do those things and they do not harm our relationship, and we get along great with each other based on this philosophy.

>>4870210
What the hell? Dump the used goods and draw your waifus. 3D are disgusting and useless

>>4870210
Yo, what the FUCK

>>4870455
Because I'm already a friendless coomer that lives in his fantasy land all day long, sometimes I would forget she even exists because I'm constantly drawing and being in my own world and I can live perfectly fine without any human interactions. She's worried about me being one of those weirdos that is so out of touch with reality that I can't even hold a proper job or make any real life friends.

She's just trying to save me from myself from becoming a schizo, as I'm already on the edge, and I know how destructive being alone can do to a person.

>>4870153
>>4870210
It's clear that your girlfriend is emotionally manipulative and abusive. What you need is to talk to a psychologist or relationship counselor, not ask advice on 4chan.
And given that you are a wojak spamming Redditor, I must insist that you fuck off and never come back.

>>4870210
Nigger what the fuck
You should dump this piece of trash not just because it doesn't allow you to draw coom, it clearly uses you for free residence in your country and has no conscience if it heartlessly abandoned 2 kids and doesn't give a fuck.

>>4870476
You have to make an important choice right now, and I speak from experience because I was very much like you, I was in my 30s, I did not have friends, so I never went out, I drew and I was a very isolated person, I did not have a regular job, and women kept their distance from me. I hated myself and I felt like I was a weirdo loser, and I can see you judging yourself in the same way.

So this important choice you have to make is if you really want her in your life or not, because the way you talk I'm not sure if she is really important to you. When you say that sometimes you "forget about her", it sounds like your art is more important to you than her. If that is the case, you need to end this relationship with her right now, no matter how bad you feel about doing that. It is the best for both of you.

However, if she is really important to you, you NEED to change your attitude and tell her you want to have a relationship with her. When I say change your attitude, you need to stop thinking of yourself as a friendless schizo weirdo. When you think of yourself that way, your are not going to make any effort to change because you think everything is hopeless. Tell your girlfriend that she is important to you, tell her that you are not a schizo or a weirdo, and tell her that you will try to not hide in your own little world. If she sees that you are really trying to make an effort of not becoming that things that she fears will happen to you, it will help your relationship. You have to try, though.

>>4870210
>and ditched her 2 kids
wow what a keeper.

>>4870153
I'm in the same situation, but i'm the gf.

When I met him years ago he only used to draw these cute lolis, but now he's drawing full hentai comics. I don't like it.

I tried to break up with him but he says he's going to kill himself if I do.

>>4870516
Honestly when I said in my OP that she don't want me to draw coom doesn't mean that she will stop me, she just doesn't like it, but put up with it. I still love her because shes made me a better person and I probably didn't give enough context but I don't blame other's calling her batshit crazy, I just don't wanna give too much details.

I actually don't mind being called a weirdo or schizo as long as I still have a grip on reality, and she's shown me the way so far. I will keep being with her until we don't love each other anymore and I will keep drawing my coom weather she likes it or not. But I am thankful for her because if it wasn't for her I would have probably killed myself by now.

>>4870210
>she moved all the way from her home country to be with me and ditched her 2 kids
How the absolute fuck do you manage to hitch yourself to a sociopath single mother from a foreign country??? Did you buy her?? I don't think I could fuck up my life more if I tried.

OP, you made the fatal mistake of coming to a den of autism, naivety and virginity (and also more autism) for advice.

Here’s what you actually do
>pick her up and throw her on the bed
>stimulate her a bit until she’s sufficiently wet
>slap her ass, bottom up, hard enough to jiggle the flesh, but not fast enough to overly compress the surface flesh and make it sting too much, you just want the shock and to make the blood flow
>push it in while she’s still surprised
>fuck her hard (not fast, not violent, hard)
>make her cum hard, multiple times if you’re up to it, but don’t cum
>right as she’s cumming, pull her hair to make her arch her back, and as she’s still riding down the orgasm, pull her further towards you and tell her:
>thanks, I needed some material for the bulma x oolong piece I’m working on, I’ll be back to finish this later
>then slap her on the ass, let her fall on the pillow, walk out and go draw, lock the door if you can
When you finish, go back, fuck her again and tell her “good job, you just helped me earn us 60 american dollars”, push her head into the pillow and cum inside her.

Get a new gf.

>>4870535
How did you even meet a guy like that and decide "hey let's be a couple"

>>4870545
imagine seeing a 4chin post about some deadbeat mom gf and writing erotic fanfic of it

>>4870535
>I tried to break up with him but he says he's going to kill himself
That is a horrible thing to say to someone in a relationship, and he should know that.

He is forcing you to stay in a relationship with him using guilt. That is incredibly selfish of him. Do not accept that, leave him. Dont be scared about what he will do to himself, because he is making those actions, not you. If you stay with him, though, he is going to keep doing those selfish things to you, because he knows he can get away with it.

>>4870565
imagine seeing a disciplinary instruction and interpreting it as erotica
have sex

>>4870153
leave your gf
>>4870535
not another one how the fuck do you people keep finding pieces of shit like this?

>>4870535
What kind of fucking hentai does he draw that's worse than lolis?

>>4870560
I met him in an art group.
I thought his loli drawings were cute.
He didn't used to draw coom before, just recently and I'm telling him to stop.

>>4870570
>>4870573
It's hard for me to separate with him right now with the pandemic because we live together. He says I saved him from depression when he met me and he's going to end his life if I left.

Knowing him he really is going to kill himself in front of me.

>>4870579
Big thicc girls. He doesn't draw lolis anymore sadly.

>>4870572
>thanks, I needed some material for the bulma x oolong piece I’m working on, I’ll be back to finish this later
more like instructions on how to make a chick queef laughing

>>4870153
>>4870535
How the hell do you even find nutcases like this?

>>4870535
He is emotionally abusive for threatening suicide, and you are unreasonable for wanting to break up with someone for what they draw.
You should break up with him for being emotionally abusive, and he should break up with you for being unreasonable.

>>4870584
why exactly do you not want him to draw coom? is he not getting paid for it?

>>4870153
Find a gf that is not a dumbass.

>>4870584
Why are you getting offended by big thicc girls and not lolis.. are you a loli yourself or something

>>4870153
On the one hand she is probably right, on the other hand you should decide for yourself if it's more important to you than she is.
t. draws coom with a guilty conscience.

>>4870210
>ditched her 2 kids
Yeah, awful person confirmed. And you are the other awful person for making that happen.
Just stick with her, stop drawing coom and do the world a favor and commit double suicide down the line.

>>4870590
>queef
>after being stretched
found the white man

>>4870164

This. She's your gf, not your mom. Unless you live in Alabama. Then she's your mom. And she needs to get off the dang roof.

>>4870210

Wow, this is the most pathetic post I've ever seen on /ic/. Screencapped.

>>4870210
You're a race mixer simping for a green card leech aren't you
And you're a pornographer

>>4870153
>he is considering a hole's opinion

>>4870153
Is drawing penis more important than your gf?

>>4870663
>thanks, I needed some material for the bulma x oolong piece I’m working on, I’ll be back to finish this later
sheeeit nigga you trippin

Change, adapt and overcome.
Draw her and pimp her instead.

>>4870210
>These kinds of persons actually exists.
Please don't ever have kids.

>>4871797
people

>>4870210
>ditched her 2 kids
Cuck

>If you get into a relationship with a single mom you are a cuck
>If you get into a relationship with a single mom who ditched her kids in another country to only be with you, you are a cuck

ok this is epic

>>4870230
i thought frazetta's wife modelled for him?

>>4870210
>feel somewhat responsible because she moved all the way from her home country to be with me and ditched her 2 kids
Ah ok, it's a bait after all.

>>4870584
>He says I saved him from depression when he met me and he's going to end his life if I left. Knowing him he really is going to kill himself in front of me.

LOL

>>4870210
PUT ME IN THE SCREENCAP

>>4870620
This. Filthy f*moids can’t discern fantasy from reality. It’s like how they get mad at you when they dream of you cheating on them.

if you ever find yourself in this situation
https://vocaroo.com/1mWkYZzzqKaJ

>>4870596
He draws little girls fucking.

Nobody should ever ask 4chan for advice ever.

>>4871992
i know a chick from my high school that fucked him. he's so easy to listen to lol, could have had much success if he stuck with that car salesman job

>>4872183
Not according to >>4870584, no.
But even if he did, the key word is DRAWS.

>>4870210
Nigga what are you doing

>>4870210
Anon... :/

Bump

>>4870153
dump that cunt
I had a girlfriend like that and it broke my confidence in drawing

>>4870210
>ditched her 2 kids
hol up

>>4870210
>Ditched her two kids
Anon... you need to get out. She is, at the very least, a sociopath.

I'm a female coom artist and I'm afraid to tell the guy I've been talking to. I don't want this to be an excuse for him to watch porn if we end up together.
I don't get off to my coom art in the slightest and can look at sexual imagery with complete detachment. I'm sure a lot of men would think having a porn drawing gf sounds amazing but that man would probably very pornsick.
Inb4 hypocrite.
Maybe I am, but I don't want to settle for a man who has ED, eventually loses attraction to me, and has his brain fried from all the easy dopamine hits.

>>4872183
>He draws little girls fucking.
And in your average shooter game, people get killed in some of the most gruesome ways possible.
What's your point? Other than you not being able to differentiate between reality and fiction.

>>4870153
ignoring the incelfag coomers in the thread, if you're having problems picking between the two, you probably don't love your gf as much as you think you do. it's perfectly normal to not want porn in a relationship(drawing or watching)--she's normal for wanting it out of the mix; despite what some may say, for every 'i watch porn and i'm fine' there is always someone else who is not so lucky, since there's really no telling how porn will affect someone until the damage is already done(speaking as a wife who's husband is currently battling a porn addiction which started years ago and that has completely ruined our sex life to the point that porn has taken the place of actual sex, and caused issues with intercouse and confidence).

other times, it might be a moral thing(it's always best to date somone who's moral compass aligns with yours)

the only way i can see it being unreasonable is if she isn't stepping up and helping fulfill your man-urges in return for you ditching the coom.

but all of that aside, take this as more of advice for the next gf because right now you need to fucking drop this bitch if she abandoned her children for some coom artist in another country.

>>4873179
samefag but before i get blasted by the other anons; yes, you're also within reason to say 'no' to her request and find another girl who doesn't have a problem with your coom art. just thought i'd give the less-spoken about side of the coom coin so you can get the bigger picture.

>>4870158
I like to do this of my wife and my wifes boyfriend

>>4873179
>>4873189
I don't know if OP is getting off to the coom art. I don't know any serious artist who jerks off to his own material. He probably has a porn addiction though if he is compulsively drawing it, though.

>>4873220
exactly. if he's just watching it--that'd be one thing, he probably would've figured it out without our help and gf may not have even been that bothered. but the way he speaks about how he wouldn't be where he is without her, how he's 'on the edge', and the fact that he's so torn over not drawing it does make me think it's a bit more than just doing it for clicks or monetary value.

I just came here to dab on you, OP. I have a hot art GF who loves that I draw coom art, is very supportive and actually likes seeing my art and loves big tiddy anime girls.
She’s also blonde and has a great ass.
There, dabbing is done. You can go wallow in your self-pity now.

>>4873893
Heard it a million times before and this won't end well, guaranteed.

>>4873953
This post reeks of jealousy.

>>4873893
Similar situation here, only it's my wife, not girlfriend. Good luck, m8.

>>4873179
>if you're having problems picking between the two, you probably don't love your gf as much as you think you do
Try "if your significant other makes an ultimatum regarding your hobbies, interests, and ESPECIALLY your creative outlets, then they do not respect you and you would be better off without them".

>it's perfectly normal to not want porn in a relationship
Normal? Sure. Reasonable? No.

>since there's really no telling how porn will affect someone until the damage is already done
Shove this gym science horse shit up your own ass.

>speaking as a wife who's husband is currently battling a porn addiction which started years ago and that has completely ruined our sex life to the point that porn has taken the place of actual sex, and caused issues with intercouse and confidence
This sounds like a "you" problem. Is he having issues with porn, or are you giving him issues because porn makes you feel insecure?

>>4873953
We’ve been together for 5 years now and getting engaged next year. I’d say if anything were to go wrong its well past that point now.
>>4873971
Gj my dude. Spouses who appreciate your coomer art should be treasured.

>>4874000
These kinds of relationships always end in disaster when the girl eventually stops being hot. She winds up with a porn addicted husband and mental issues because she can no longer sufficiently compete with porn.
A lot of younger women think they are locking down a nice man when they are young by indulging in and encouraging his porn habits, but it comes with an expiration date.

You'll start noticing problems when she hits the wall. She will either become extremely neurotic, depressed, or seek validation from people who aren't you.

>>4874049
Keep coping, faggot.

>>4874206
Not at all. I'm not a porn addict man and I don't see value in porn addict relationships to the point of ever being envious.

>>4870161
It might be time to grow up a little more then and evaluate which thing is gonna make you into a more well-adjusted adult. Are you gonna be happier drawing bad coom shit for chump change or with a real woman who you yourself already made you grow up in ways that make you feel grateful to her.
Coom art isn’t a destination, anon. It’s only purpose is the be dropped eventually once you realize it’s holding you back. I don’t say this to grandstand on you but because I want you to know that coom art isn’t more important than your future with someone who you can grow into a better person with.
Anyway good luck anon.

>>4874264
Ronery faggot.

>>4870164
Hit puberty, faggot

>>4873990
You have no idea the extent to which men change under the influence of porn addiction. It's not the woman's problem because there's nothing she can do to change him once he's lost to it. It's not about being insecure or controlling. Men in their early 20s are getting ED, neglecting their partners, and jerking off every second they are alone. It has nothing to do with women's insecurities and everything to do with a man's lack of self control.

>>4874305
You'll start resenting and neglecting your wife/gf once she's no longer hot and she'll be painfully aware.
You should find value in your partner far above her attractiveness and willingness to let you watch and create porn, for the sake of both your and your wifes's future happiness.

>>4874049
I was going to say something but it seems to me like you have trust issues. Let me ask you, why, instead of being happy for a couple finding happiness in each other, you insist on applying your reasoning that their relationship will fall apart based on only two factors (coom art, hot girl) that you know of?

>>4874312
Again, take your gym science and shove it up your own ass.
Kill yourself, you fountain of misinformation.

>>4874320
Stop with the fanction, you jealous faggot.

>>4871859
Before he was painting he was doing steady comic jobs, his wife didn't want him to make the jump to paintings at first because they had kids at the time and it could've made their lives a lot more unstable

>>4870387
-anon hits the enemy crab for massive damage-

>>4870153
draw coom

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS THREAD
GROW UP AND STOP DRAWING PORN YOU IDIOT
YOU CONVINCED A WOMAN TO DITCH HER PREVIOUS LIFE AND YOU WANT TO END IT ALL BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T LIKE THAT YOU DRAW PORN
MAN UP, FIND GOD, TREAT YOUR WOMAN RIGHT
HOW CAN DRAWING PORN BE MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU THAN HER

>>4874358
I don't have issues that have no basis in reality.
Your happiness is based on her attractiveness and willingness to let you watch porn. It's not a foundation that will last into old age.
>>4874367
Coomers are incapable of any civil discussion when it comes to their addiction.

>>4874495
A significant amount of men will destroy their entire lives and personal relationships if it means they can continue watching porn.Take the blackpill.
https://www.reddit.com/r/loveafterporn/
And many such cases.

why would you wanna spend all of your time watching/drawing people having sex

thats lame

only losers do that

>>4870153
Break up with your caring gf to become a degen. gg, no re

>>4874501
Okay, anon. You’re entitled to your opinion.

While I agree that one shouldn't ditch their girlfriend over something silly, I think people are also overlooking that anon is getting backed into a corner by manipulative statements from a woman that abandoned the family she made in another country.
I'm not very sure anon should trust this woman too much. If she will make such a fuss over something so simple as a drawing, what will happen when it comes to something actually serious? What if next thing she doesn't like is anon doing x or y?

Not saying that's the case. But his statement of "she left behind 2 kids" is a huge red flag should not be ignored. In any case, I'd say, anon. Draw less porn and seek a therapist and someone to guide you. Because even if you stopped drawing porn, I don't think that'd be the end of the tale.

>>4874495
Ultimatums are poison to a relationship, this isn't hard to figure out.

>>4874501
>I don't have issues that have no basis in reality.
lmao
Kill yourself.

>>4874572
He doesn't need to draw less porn for any reason, the drawings are not the issue here. The emotionally manipulative, controlling, family abandoning, selfish girlfriend is the issue.

ITT

>>4874683
Dumb Redditor.

>>4874683
Literally every porn user I've met in life.
What's even more amazing is how shocked they are when they find out you don't watch porn at all.

>>4874870
Delusional.

>>4870210
>Today in the tale of /ic/ we got fo-,,,.,, Yo wait waht teh fuck lol

>>4870210
She's cheating on you bro and is looking for excuses to break up

>>4874683
You Nofappers are quite literally a cult and a joke.

>ITT
>unlimited bait works
>coom bad
>coom good
>OP didnt post work
>no one posted their work
>jannies are fucking faggots
>the absolute state of this normie infested board
Fuck this board. I'm out.

>>4870153
Is it the subject matter that’s making girlfriend mad at you? So wouldn’t mind if you draw pretty boy yoai smut.

>>4874977
Big surprise, the entirety of 4chan is filled with norms. Now get the fuck out newfag.

>>4870210
>Ditched her two kids
anon i.....

>>4873990
>Try "if your significant other makes an ultimatum regarding your hobbies, interests, and ESPECIALLY your creative outlets, then they do not respect you and you would be better off without them".

Lmao do you even know what an ultimatum is? She said she didn't want him to draw porn--she didn't say she'd leave him over it. Also, it's not a 'creative outlet' if you only enjoy drawing to make porn so you can get e-validation from a bunch of coombrain zombies.

>Normal? Sure. Reasonable? No.
If you can't drop porn to have real sex, it's probably better that your girl finds someone else.

>Shove this gym science horse shit up your own ass.
LOL, the first step of the scientific method is 'observation' but nobody listens when someone says they have a problem with porn because 'i-i-it's just an anectdotes guys!! y-you just have religious guilt and an insecure gf!! please watch more porn so we(the sex industry)can get more moneys!!!'

>This sounds like a "you" problem. Is he having issues with porn, or are you giving him issues because porn makes you feel insecure?

He told me if he stops watching porn, he literally gets jitters and feels like he wants to peel his fucking skin off. He hates it, has hated it since before we ever started dating, it makes him tired, he can't focus on anything, and he can barely 'get it up' to have sex with me even if I'm on him like a fucking stripper. But when he stops watching porn, we have more sex, he's more productive, happier, and more confident in himself.

FYI, I also had a milder porn addiction a while back. Couldn't even reach an orgasm without porn, and barely felt anything when I tried to be intimate with my husband. It was emotionally devastating.

But fr, all that aside--how shitty does 'my porn is more important than my girlfriend's self image and feelings?' or 'if you don't like porn, you're being unreasonable' sound. Bitches and faggots these days don't have a goddamn empathetic bone in their bodies.

>>4874963
nofappers get bitches to satisfy their urges. not 2d nip tiddy

>>4875300
>Bitches and faggots these days don't have a goddamn empathetic bone in their bodies.
Yeah because /ic/ is full of celibate wizards that only know the intimacy of their hand or onahole. Its not surprising that they'd act like this.

>>4873091
Yeah but at least you aren't pretending to shoot the shit out of toddlers in the average AAA vidya.
(in loli porn you are pretending to shoot your load into toddlers)

>>4874977
buckle in faggot, we're /adv/-/ic/-/e/ now

>>4875315
In your wetdreams loser.

>>4874592
OP knew he was getting into a relationship with a woman from another country with another life she left behind. His cooming problem is new. Would she have chose a life with OP if she knew beforehand he was going to be a coomer?

>>4873091
I used to think like this but I've come to realize that sex and porn are interpreted completely differently by your brain compared to simulated violence.
The dopamine hit you get from masturbating is far more intense and addictive than the dopamine hit you get to playing videogames.

>>4875300
>she didn't say she'd leave him over it
>she even said that our relationship won't last long if I keep drawing coom
Hey look, you're full of shit.

>Also, it's not a 'creative outlet'
Yes it is you retard.

>If you can't drop porn to have real sex, it's probably better that your girl finds someone else.
If your girl expects you to drop something you like for her, then it's definitely better that YOU find someone else.

>He told me
Oh he told you, did he? Was this before or after you expressed your disgust for his desire to watch porn? Was this before or after your judgmental sneering?

>he can barely 'get it up' to have sex with me even if I'm on him like a fucking stripper
SOUNDS LIKE A "YOU" PROBLEM.

>how shitty does 'my porn is more important than my girlfriend's self image and feelings?' or 'if you don't like porn, you're being unreasonable' sound.
If you get insecure about your spouse looking at images, then you have a problem. Instead of trying to force your spouse to stop doing things they like, you should TALK TO THEM like a reasonable adult and work through your insecurity together.

>Bitches and faggots these days don't have a goddamn empathetic bone in their bodies.
It has nothing to do with empathy, you selfish cunt. You are trying to force your significant other to change themselves because you have an irrational emotional response to them enjoying something.
I'm so glad my marriage is based on trust and communication instead of paranoia and emotional manipulation.

>>4874963
Coomer

>>4875685
Why do men become so upset just at the thought of limiting their porn consumption? It's like they think jerking their dicks alone to jewish filth is on the same level of importance as sleeping and eating.
You got into a relationship, you definitely don't need porn. It's already destructive when you are alone, burdening another person with your addiction is selfish and cruel.
>Sounds like a "YOU" problem
A man completely destroys what his brain considers stimulating when bombarding it with fake sex all day. Porn induced ED is a real thing. Doesn't matter if you're the hottest woman in the world willing to do indulge in any fetish, your man will preform worse during sex compared to if he weren't watching porn.

Porn consumption is not a part of your identity. It's not a hobby. It's not something you should be proud of. Porn is a simulation of sex that appeals to your most lizard of lizard brain impulses. If you did not have these impulses to spread your seed, you would never seek out proxies that trick your brain into thinking you are some warlord with an infinite harem. No one makes it their goal to become addicted to porn. It happens because of a lack of self control.
It is an irrational, emotional response to become so defensive and combative if your gf says to give up porn for the sex she is offering.

>>4874977
Don’t worry summer is almost over...although schools are remote learning now so who knows if that’ll make any difference this year.

>>4875769
based and lewispilled

>>4875769
I’d say more that it happens because we find it in our formative years and it becomes a habit. One of the many reasons people used to give for not letting adolescents have coffee, cigarettes, or alcohol is that it’s even more habit forming because the teenagers body is in chemical development. Now give kids a smart phone or unsupervised internet access and tons of porn everywhere, and you got some kid who grows into an adult jacking off to badly drawn cartoon characters on Twitter and endless interracial gangbang in actual porn sites and there you go, a new lifelong porn slave is born. And they’ll simp harder than anyone to defend the validity of their servility to their cummies. They’d probably even be martyred for it quicker than Christians would.

>>4870210
>ditched her two kids
and you thought this psycho could make you happy?

what are anti porn crusaders doing in this board

>>4875769
>Why do men become so upset just at the thought of limiting their porn consumption?
Why do women become so upset at the thought of a man liking something other than them?

>You got into a relationship, you definitely don't need porn.
Who said anything about 'need', retard?

>It's already destructive when you are alone
Like fuck it is.

>A man completely destroys what his brain considers stimulating when bombarding it with fake sex all day
Once again: take your gym science horse shit and shove it up your ass.

>Porn consumption is not a part of your identity.
And?

>It's not a hobby
Yes it is.

>It's not something you should be proud of
It's not something you should be ashamed of either, you insecure prude.

> Porn is a simulation of sex that appeals to your most lizard of lizard brain impulses
And romantic fiction is a simulation of love, and horror is a simulation of fear, and tragedy is a simulation of grief. Why are you so fixated on this one particular emotional stimulation?

>It is an irrational, emotional response to become so defensive and combative if your gf says to give up porn
No it isn't. If someone tries to force you to stop doing something you like, you tell them to fuck off. If someone that you care deeply for tries to control you in that way, then it is rational to feel hurt and betrayed. If you truly care for someone, you would never even think to take away something they enjoy.

>the sex she is offering.
And there it is. This whole fucking thing is just an ego trip. This is about women that are so self-centered that they think people should be grateful that they are willing to have sex with them. This is about women trying to use sex as collateral to emotionally control their significant others.
I have nothing but disdain for women like this, and being in a relationship with one must be a nightmare.

I am so thankful that my wife is reasonable, caring, trusting, patient, and kind.

>>4875797
Trying to affect social change on 4chan. Yes, that is exactly as faggy and cringeworthy as it sounds.

>>4875799
I'm imagining myself getting addicted to looking at pictures of food and imagining myself cooking, neglecting the times I actually cook to the point where I'm doing it less and less, and when I do, it's only microwave pizza. Then my bf tells me I have a problem and I should be cooking for us instead of pretending I'm some five star chef. I get defensive and angry and tell him it's just my hobby and it's "just pictures" and he should stop being so insecure and be happy with my microwave food otherwise he is a cunt.
>Why are you so fixated
Because men become so defensive. It's worth the attention.
>This whole fucking thing is an ego trip
I can't believe a man is telling me a woman is having an ego trip because she wants sex with her husband rather than being rejected in favor of porn. You purposefully devalue your wife so she doesn't get too uppity? Porn obviously plays a major role in how you view and treat relationships with women, not "just images" like you were saying before.
If your wife rejected you to read romance novels and masturbate to giant cocks in order to "keep your ego in check" you would definitely get pissed. It's manipulative and dehumanizing. Sad that you can't see it from her perspective. If you truly love and trust this woman, do you not want her to feel good about herself? Or do you simply want to keep her around, and the best way to do it is making sure she needs the fleeting validation of a porn addict?
This is exactly why I do not think porn addict relationships work and are destined for dysfunction. There seems to be a lack of genuine love and sex is used as a utility and not as an expression of love.
Maybe you got lucky and your wife truly is okay with your porn addiction, but I don't think it's anything to be promoted as ideal. I would be incredibly surprised if this didn't end up becoming a problem in the future. Ideally men shouldn't damage themselves for porn, and women shouldn't damage themselves for men addicted to porn.

>>4870210
>DITCHED her 2 kids
Stopped reading there. Red flag, Get out.

>>4875850
>I'm imagining myself getting addicted to looking at pictures of food and imagining myself cooking, neglecting the times I actually cook
You sure do imagine a lot of irrelevant, nonsensical things.
And good job on making a dumbass food analogy that demonstrates precisely how absurd your point of view is.

>It's worth the attention.
So you do it for attention?

>being rejected in favor of porn
>If your wife rejected you to read romance novels and masturbate to giant cocks in order to "keep your ego in check"
Stop making shit up, looking at porn does not make you suddenly want to stop having sex.

>You purposefully devalue your wife
No, where the fuck did you get that from?

>Sad that you can't see it from her perspective
See what from her perspective, retard? My wife looks at porn too. We look at porn together. We are intimate together. One does not exclude the other no matter how much you claim it does.

>do you not want her to feel good about herself?
If she feels insecure because I look at images, then there is a deeper problem that needs to be addressed. Fortunately, as I stated before, my wife is reasonable, so she doesn't get irrationally insecure about such thing.

>Or do you simply want to keep her around, and the best way to do it is making sure she needs the fleeting validation of a porn addict?
Where are you getting this shit from? Stop with the fanfiction.

>Ideally men shouldn't damage themselves for porn
Moron. Read this very carefully:
Watching porn does not 'damage' anything. You cannot demonstrate that it does, and therefore the core of your argument is based on an incorrect assumption, and you are applying circular reasoning to justify this incorrect assumption.

Kill yourself, you irrational, selfish attention whore.

>>4875934
From my perspective you have a very warped and incendiary perception of women and relationships with them.
I hope you and your wife find happiness that lasts long into the future regardless. Maybe you can be one of the few who makes it work forever.

>>4875971
Your perspective and a nickle is worth 5 cents.
You have no idea what you are talking about and you are breeding distrust and resentment with your significant other on the basis of pseudoscience and your own jealousy.

>>4875987
My perspective is that porn is destructive and not conducive to a healthy relationship and is unsustainable in the long term. I'm not the only person who thinks this, and it's not that crazy of an idea.

>>4876001
And like I said: your perspective is worthless.

>I'm not the only person who thinks this
There are thousands of anti-vaxxers too. The no-fap shit is unfounded pseudoscience. You are harming personal relationships because of some stupid shit you read online.
Talk to your husband, see a counselor together. You have deep seated sexual and personal issues that are only going to get worse if you do not address them responsibly.

>>4876015
I have a healthy relationship and my partner is not a porn addict. I have just read so many horror stories about men with porn addictions and how it effects them and the lives of their loved ones.
It's better to just quit if you are able. No relationship has ever suffered because a man didn't seek out porn. I'm not begging my partner to start the habit for the supposed "health benefits".

>bf not only endorses and supports me in drawing coom, also models for me when I'm stuck with a perspective problem/anatomical gap
>all these coomers jacking it to my drawings are actually getting off on my bf's bod

>>4876105
And I have heard many horror stories about vaccines causing autism, that doesn't make them true.

>>4876113
I'm trying to persuade my GF into drawing coom but she's too shy

>>4876150
Shy about what? Tell her to get an anonymous pseudonym and just post under that. She doesn't even have to disclose her sex if she doesn't want to.

>>4876150
Is she inclined to do it but just embarrassed? If not, you shouldn't be trying to persuade her, just let her draw what she wants.

>>4875799
Holy shit! Enjoy being alone forever you bitter faggot. I hope the trap flaps comfort you

>>4876357
Are you retarded? I am happily married. What makes you think I'm bitter, dingdong?

>>4875934
Cope

>>4876363
Cope with what, moron?

>>4876361
Oh I’m “happily married too” anon. I even have eight kids with PhD’s.

>>4876367
lmao
Now THIS is a cope.
4chan has been around for 17 fucking years, a lot of us have actually grown up and gotten married in that time, you child.

>>4870153
stop being a coomer

I'm a coom artist myself but even I recognize that porn addictions are real. There is a middle ground between nofap and ruining your life and relationships because of porn. Anything in excess will cause brain damage.

>>4876401
>even I recognize that porn addictions are real
>recognize
Try "think".

>>4876445
Why are you in this thread for this long being a complete fanatic about defending porn
I'm sorry bro but...I think you're addicted to porn.

>>4876731
In order to notice someone being in a thread for a long time, you would have to be in the thread for a long time too. Didn't really think that one through, did you?

>>4876744
>Seething

>>4876445
So you're saying that porn addiction isn't real?

>>4870584
>>4870153
Lmao sucks to be heterosexual.

Im gay who draws baracoom. My bf just laughs at my weird anatomy with huge enormous cocks. We even sometimes have sex after i finish a coomerpicture and get extremely horny

Why heteros cant live in harmony

>>4876744
I just read the thread and have pattern recognition. Just go duck your hot wife otherwise I can only assume you are lying or really pathetic.

>>4876761
Who are you quoting?

>>4876767
You catch on fast.

>>4876790
Nice attempt.

>>4876784
Because men and women think about sex differently. Women resent men's desire for constant novel stimulation, and men resent women's desire to be hypergamous.
Gay relationships are degenerate and lesbian relationships are sexless.

>>4876795
You are an example of someone with a porn addiction.

>>4876801
And you base this on what?

>>4876804
The fact you've been seething this hard for this long on a mongolian basket weaving forum full of a bunch of no talent losers instead of spending time with your apparently amazing wife and successful coom career.

>>4876813
Oh, so nothing.

>>4876790
He can be both. And my hacker squad just informed me that he is.

>>4870210
get a counselor
seriously

you've dug yourself into a hole that you can't get out from and what's worse is that you took your gf down the same hole as well

you sound like a loser, so you can't solve your own problems, what makes you think you can solve your gf's problem?
you need professional help

jesus christ

>>4870535
he's too cowardly to stop drawing coom and you actually think he has the balls to off himself?

>>4876927
>too cowardly to stop drawing coom
What does this even mean? As if doing something that you you are pressured into doing is somehow brave.

>>4870210
Bruh

>>4870164
this, OP stand up for yourself a little bit.

>>4870210
your gf sounds like a fucking disgusting maniac.
Leave. pay for her plane tickets to go home if you fell bad.

>>4874495
how is giving up something you enjoy "MANNING UP" ? it's a pretty minor thing he should stand up for himself if he enjoys it, he's not hurting anyone it's just a drawing, a creative outlet.
also the girl unironically sounds like she's insane.

>>4877481
The 'find God' bit should have been a clue. He's a dumb prude that's scared of sex.

Say no to her. She will respect you more.

My bf wants me to draw coom

>>4875685
>paranoia and emotional manipulation
fuck back off to plebbit. you argue like a twelve year old who's pissed that his mom took away his copy of GTA V, you immature twat. It's obvious your talking out of your ass by the way you cherry pick what you reply to, the only difference is I can't tell if you're trolling or actually fucking stupid

>>4878261
You must be over 18 to post here.

>>4876795
One thing is to say you don't have a porn addiction, and another is to negate it's existence. That is just dumb.

Porn, like drugs, alcohol, videogames or anything else can be addictive too, it's just what it is.

>>4878395
Admitting it exists at all means admitting he has it.

>>4878395
If I were to see sufficient scientific evidence for its existence, then I would agree it exists. But as it stands, the research is far from convincing, and therefore I have no reason to believe it does.
The fact that you WANT to believe it exists despite insufficient evidence is what's retarded.

>>4878566
Just admit you're addicted to porn already. The first step towards the solution is admitting you have a problem :)

>>4878566
Bro wtf, so despite people mentioning that porn has ruined their lifes, it means jackshit to you?

Porn can ruin life, like ANYTHING when is not controlled. What is wrong with that? I'm not even saying that you are an addict, i'm just saying that the addiction itself to porn obviously does exist.

>>4878635
>it means jackshit to you?
Anecdotal evidence means jack shit to me, yes.
And as a bonus, since I'm not a knuckle dragging mongoloid, I understand the basic principle of "correlation does not imply causation".

>>4878566
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articles-about-the-studies/brain-studies-on-porn-users-sex-addicts/
"Addiction" is a subjective word, and behavioral science is very nuanced. All psychology fields are and will always be "soft science". You will never have 100% concrete evidence that X stimulus causes Y response in humans. The only thing you can prove with certainty in this world are hard numbers, even gravity is just a theory.
The biological effects are still worth considering, and are conventionally "existing".
>>4878635
It's called tactical nihilism.

>>4878650
>yourbrainonporn.com
lmfao
Kill yourself you pseudoscience believing brainlet.

>>4878653
You can click the links to the studies in the article. Your 4chanspeak isn't convincing me of your position in the slightest.

>>4878658
And you can click this, and then kill yourself:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201808/science-stopped-believing-in-porn-addiction-you-should-too

>>4878662
Did you even read the article you just linked? It boils down to "porn addiction doesn't exist unless you perceive the usage of porn to be a moral problem", with the solution to the addiction just being changing your moral framework. It's the same as saying "gambling addiction doesn't exist unless unless you think gambling is bad".
This is just a semantic redefinition of the word "addiction" which I already said was subjective.

Unless you can find me studies where your literal, measurable brain chemicals are not altered by using porn, or with frequent usage of porn, your argument is womyn tier.

>>4878686
Your brain chemicals are altered by doing anything you fucking moron.
Addiction is a specific medical term, and DSM-5 nor the ICD-11classify pornography as a mental disorder or addiction.

>When the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) was being drafted, experts considered a proposed diagnostic addiction called hypersexual disorder, which also included a pornography subtype. But in the end, reviewers determined that there wasn't enough evidence to include hypersexual disorder or its subtypes in the 2013 edition.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140405232028/http://www.apa.org/monitor/2014/04/pornography.aspx

So no, it's bullshit.
The "porn addiction" meme is being pushed by religious and political groups, but the evidence is nowhere near credible or convincing.

>>4878721
The irony is lost on you then. You know about brain chemicals but have been denying this specific addiction exists despite requiring the same amount of evidence to prove that any other addiction exists.
>DSM-5
You are telling me that there are groups pushing their ideology but the American Psychiatric association does not push its own ideology? Funny enough what you linked proves my point more than yours, just with opinions padded in between to reframe the data they present. Again I do not think you even read the articles you're sending me. Besides that, the pornography industry is many, many times larger than whatever fringe groups are promoting porn abstinence. Don't even try to make this argument as if it's relevant. The data and empirical observational studies are all that matters. You have yet to show me any study for your opinion, because they don't exist.
Presented so far are your arguments: "just stop thinking porn is morally bad and you are no longer addicted" and a creditentialism deference to the opinion American Psychiatric association, who don't even prove their own case.

You are simple a porn addicted larper and are in deep denial. I watch porn sometimes too but I'm not deluded enough to think it can't turn into a serious issue, one that many people deal with today. Quit browsing /ic/ for a few days and go draw. I'm sure you have more important shit to do than defend the honor of your fair maiden Pornography to internet strangers.

>>4878767
>You are telling me that there are groups pushing their ideology but the American Psychiatric association does not push its own ideology?
That's all I need to read of this dumbfuck post.
Legitimately kill yourself.

>>4870584

>thought loli drawings were cute

Lady, the people who draw that shit are more than likely going to peddle that as porn eventually. The key word is 'loli' not some littlest angel sexless shit. A massive red flag for your preferences that just completely flew over your head.

>>4876113

>my bf not only likes my porn drawing but we exchange smut and porn on our respective birthdays
>he writes for me, I draw for him

It's the good life.

>do nofap for a month
>nothing happens
alright, cool, great job guys. thanks for the cool suggestion. fucking coconut juice slurping retards..

>>4878635
far, far more people have ruined their lives with TV and video games than with porn

>>4875769
>lizard brain
please, please shut the fuck up before i lose it and race across the room and cave your 100lb frame in
you are not a neuroscientist, you are a shitposter on an anime image board. anyone taking advice from you should take my advice too which is to kill themselves

>>4878993
Seek help.

>>4879001
>seek help
yeah, your nigger chimp brain impulse is to seek help but that's because you aren't up to date on the latest neurological research. once your lobster brain and faggot brain merge with your kike brain you'll understand.

>>4879024
Were your parents killed by a neurologist, a lizard, or an anti-masturbation jehova's witness or something?
Calm down dude, just jerk off and relax.

>>4879024
>hates jews
>addicted to porn
https://youtu.be/dC0A5TMIskg

>>4879063
i am jewish and i don't even watch porn.

>>4876971
if you can't stop drawing coom when your gf doesn't like it and your relationship is at stake, you are simply a coward
is what it means

>>4879179
You have a sad, warped view of relationships.

>>4879076
>i am jewish
lmao of course

>>4879196
What if your gf decided to spend her free time drawing NTR, cuckolding, monster cocks, and small penis humiliation porn without ever showing signs of doing so when you first started dating
Would you be in the wrong for saying it made you uncomfortable?

>>4879239
You would be wrong to demand that she stop or emotionally blackmail her until she did. This is also a false equivalence. OP didn't say he was drawing torture and rape porn, or spousal abuse fantasies, or any other cruel or humiliating subject matter, just porn. OP did not even clarify if he was drawing sex of any kind. For all we know, his girlfriend became a screeching harpie over bikini pinups.

>>4870153
dump her a draw coom

>>4879277
Don't kinkshame.

>>4879330
Retard.

>>4879233
just joking you nigger kike. so sick of people weaponizing neuroscience on here to peddle their retarded beliefs. worry less about lizard brains and more about me mashing your brain into a fine pink paste

>>4879551
Seek help.

>>4870153
first of all you're a faggot for bragging about having a gf on 4chan

second of all you're a faggot for letting her dictate what you want to do with your life

fucking end yourself

>>4870153
Stop drawing this, not because of her, but because of your self-respect.
Elevate yourself above all the pervs who draw dirty fanarts for easy money.
>>4870535
This just shows how much coomers are sick in the head.

>>4879772
try as hard as you might i will never stop cooming

>>4870210
>ditched her 2 kids
ditch the bitch, no woman/ man is worth keeping if they do shit like this, once a deadbeat always a deadbeat

>>4870535
>I tried to break up with him but he says he's going to kill himself if I do.
He won't, I know. and even if he does its not your problem
>Maybe I am, but I don't want to settle for a man who has ED, eventually loses attraction to me, and has his brain fried from all the easy dopamine hits.
Gota admire that. i mean im about as attracted to real women as a doorframe but hey you do you.
>>4873179
>>4873189
People should be allowed to enjoy what they enjoy. I left a woman because... well came to realise that I didn't feel anything for her. there was like this societal pressure to have a partner and Just felt better without one... and desu It was never enjoyable.. i just used her as an excuse to leave home

>>4874312
Men in their early 20s are getting ED, neglecting their partners, and jerking off every second they are alone.(snip).
is this really a thing? and i thought once a day when i was a teenager was bad?
like its not that pleasant anyway its just stress management

>>4879772
Make an effort to wrap your head around the idea that not everyone agrees that sex and depictions of sex are shameful or immoral.
Your inability to grasp that different people have different values is really embarrassing.

>>4879822
>(snip)
Leave and never come back.

>>4880126
>(snip) (snip)
oh so youd rather half a page of text ?

>>4880302
Leave and never come back.

>>4870210
>she moved all the way from her home country to be with me and ditched her 2 kids
>ditched her 2 kids
Holy mother of god, what a crazy cunt.

>>4870210
Jokes aside, wecan't help you. YOU probably can't help you. You're clinging to porn drawings for validation and grappling with the concept of losing that or your girlfriend as an actual legitimate point of contention. If you were well adjusted and she was worth a damn, there would be no question. You aren't in the state of mind necessary to make these kinds of decisions, because you need to maintain all of your validating things or you'll crumble to some degree. Because of that, the decision is going to be made for you, and you'll spend a few months/years learning to cope with rejection and loss, all the while learning along the way that you don't need validation from outside sources and you were stuck in fantasies or some shit. You still have the option to work this out, but you won't, because people in your mindset don't. I mean you alr eww ady have options and answers, we can't provide further clarity, but here you are anyways. You'll be taught hard lessons and change for it, and then you'll be able to make these decisions in the future. So there's an upside.