/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4865423
IM G-GONNA D-DRAAAAAAAAW

Is it really that important to get good at drawing on paper first or is it fine if I just jump on my tablet? I prefer how paper feels and honestly fine it easier, but I like how the final product looks when you do it digitally. Any ideas of how I can simulate a pen brush digitally?

reference

Copied from other thread
There's something screwy going on with my anatomy drawing. Are the breasts too high? Is the perspective just off? Is the head too big for the body? Or are some of my other proportions off?

>>4865501
Head is big, shoulders are wide, tits are too high, opening of the ribcage is too high, upper arm is short, hands are small, legs are short, neck is long, she has no hips etc.

>>4865511
tyvm

why new thread other ones fine

>>4865457
did you try that pellicle thing that you glue on the tablet? I heard that it works well, never tried tho

>>4865457
I think it's good to learn traditional and carry a sketchbook and all that, but fucking go wild, no reason not to get into digital early. I waited a long time and the transition felt fucking awful, if I could go back I'd have learned them at the same time more.

I'd say, about 60% through... How have I made a wrong turn?

>>4865511
>>4865535
None of this matters to you. Try to make things appealing do gestures and objects to have more line confidence. Keep drawing figures but focus more on shapes and your lines instead of being proportionally correct. Even if your proportions and skeletal structure where correct your piece would still not be appealing.

here's a dumb question: how do you guys store large pages of work? I wanna keep pretty much everything I draw while learning and I got an awesome deal on some huge 14"x17" and 18"x24" (36x43 and 46x61 cm) sketch pads. The only problem is that they aren't spiral bound so the pages are going to fall out eventually. Can I get expanding folders that big or is there a better way to keep them so they don't get lost or damaged?

>>4865423

fuck my shit up

>>4867707
Nice, the values are starting to blend a little to where her hair starts to merge with her sweater bottom right drawing.

ease up on the dark values and use them sparingly

>>4867722
Thanks, I'll be sure to ease up on the dark values. My reference for the bottom right was full of shadows in that area which is why I blended it. How do I convey that darkness without making the blending seem careless?

>>4865501
Don't worry about anatomy for now, focus on making drawing with less lines.

Everything in life is just shapes so try drawing SHAPES with light clean lines, good luck.

>>4867749
>>4865501
small tip, I've watched this video like 10 times and thought I understood what he meant because it was so simple and straight forward but after 6 months of drawing I finally fully understand.

It's so frustrating, you never really get it until you finally get it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZknWKTpc90

I keep getting distracted by other drawings but the sketching is finally done.
I do not draw men all that often, did I mess up somewhere ?

>>4867747
Do you still have the reference? If so post it up.

>>4867762
yikes. Imagine trying to make art tutorials when you're not even out of /beg/ yourself. This guy should probably try to get good before making more videos.

>>4867805
Who would you recommend?

>>4867814
if someone ever trashes a tutorial/method without immediately offering another one in the same post you should assume they're bullshitting.

My first oil painting

Couldn't think of anything to draw today but I managed to sketch a guy. With this I have a new design I can refine later on

>tfw got absolutely FILTERED by the first real exercise in the book
Do you guys think I should try it again or just keep going with the next tasks?

>>4867777
not beg

>>4867871
Just keep on going anon

>>4865896
no one linked to it in the previous thread

>art kings deleted because nosebro sperged
>nosebro banned
KEKT

>>4867928
Glad I left that circle jerk cave early, shit was uncomfortable to say the least.

>>4867933
yeah, wew
nosebro's grooming cave

Another life drawing. I haven't had a fruit make me feel this retarded since /a/ said traps weren't gay

>>4867834
>My first oil painting

trying my hand at free hand perspective and construction without looking at the reference at the same time.

what do you goys think?

>>4867777
nice

>>4865423
I cannot for the life of me nail consistent vertical lines on my no screen tablet, this doesn't happen on paper, wat do? I'm totally centered with my screen.

I got a tablet, still no idea what I'm doing.

>>4868299
is that jax?

>>4868323
yep

>>4868330
>yep
cool, you should look up bargue method and do sight size with reference it should put you on a great path, if you only do digital art its even easier because you can always ctrl r. I only do trad and today I a mistake and I wanted to scream

>>4867782

>>4868338
>>4867782
Shit, posted wrong one

>>4868187
I think it looks good

>>4865423
I need to know if this is good. where does this stand?

>>4868338
Oh I see what you mean, I think you can use 3 values for that side of the drawing I mapped out the different values.

In value section 1 you can see a little bit of light in there but I would ignore it

>>4868343
This one should be even easier I think

day 2

>>4868366
I hate loomis so much

>>4868366
for god's sake read "figure drawing for all its worth" instead

>it’s going to take a week to get supplies for dynamic sketching
fug, guess it’s all lines and boxes for me now

>>4868386

why?

>>4867950
Looks great anon keep it up.

>>4868187
This is fucking righteous anon. You'll always improve perspective as you go further but you're definitely ready to move on to broader horizons if you want to.

>>4868345
Honestly every part of it could improve, but the hardest part is getting the foreshortening of the punching arm to feel good and you nailed it. Even the messy speed lines work for me.

Be proud of it, but don't hold back from the fundamentals (perspective to start with etc.)

>>4868187
not bad, anon. what did you learn perspective from?

>>4868359
>>4868364
Thank you, very appreciated

>>4865423
Thanks to anatomy, im able to draw freehand without using guides.

>>4868397
>Looks great anon keep it up
Thanks

>>4868345
unironically a lot of soul in this

First time trying to draw on paper in over a year. Turns out I suck ass.

>>4868263
Rotate the digital canvas.
A 45° diagonal is the easiest line to make because of the axis of rotation of your arm, so if you want to make other lines without straining, you have to rotate the page accordingly.

>>4865457
It doesn't matter, draw with what you like. Some people will insist that you use ink while learning mark making, but that's just so you don't erase. The simple solution here is just don't fucking erase while learning.
If you really can't control yourself, just disable your eraser for a while in the tablet settings.

Not the happiest with the last one, but it was the end of the day, and also the least amount of time spent on. Going to try and get the first ones vibe going as I really like it the most.

Remember: whenever you finish a drawing, like it, and then look at later and dislike it, you are leveling up your taste, as well as your standards for you own art. Keep doing it until you can look at your art down the line and still be satisfied with it!

>Try drawabox but get frustrated and pissed off because it's approach to learning in lesson one is just "lol keep fucking up with no direction and eventually you'll figure it out"
>Drop it and end up buying "Perspective Drawing Handbook" by Joseph D'amelio
>There's no exercises it's literally just 90 pages of autistic math-like explanation
I'm sorta intimidated

>>4868902
There are instructions in it. You just bailed out while it was just teaching you literal daily warmup material.

>>4868822
>15 min
>30 min
>10 min
Actually ngmi. These types of cartoons are literally designed to pumped out as quickly as possible. Study realism, grind your fundies and stop chicken scratching.

>>4865423
I got this as a gift from my dad and I've been messing around with it in Krita.

Is it too small to use or do I need to practice more? I'm asking this because I'm having issues with getting my lines straight

>>4868902
>lol keep fucking up with no direction and eventually you'll figure it out"
The only way to understand perspective is to practice.
10% theory
90% Practice
>buying "Perspective Drawing Handbook"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8a8mYDw2f0

>>4868948
cool story bro. Real shame you didn't make it.

>>4868953
it's useable, but obviously not ideal. I started with a dinky Wacom tablet that was about that size and I made it work for a good while. You'll find that it'll get easier as you get used to it, but with so little space you're gonna need to zoom in a lot while working.

>>4868953
it's perfectly usable to get yourself out of /beg/. your dad is cool for buying that for you, make him proud anon

>>4868957
You take half an hour to do what should be 1 minute sketches because you chicken scratch. You chicken scratch because you have absolutely no confidence in your forms. You have no confidence in your forms because you have no underlying knowledge of realism to have simplified or exaggerated into cartoon. Don't be a defensive faggot and grind your fundies.

>>4868967
The fact that you are spouting things you don't understand is hilarious. I think someones jealous of another anon here getting further ahead of him.

God i love Vilppu

i don’t even
i’m going to bed

>>4868961
>You'll find that it'll get easier as you get used to it, but with so little space you're gonna need to zoom in a lot while working.
I've been doing that myself so it looks like I was on the right track after all.

I'll stick with this until I make it to /int/ then I'll trade up.
>>4868965
I'll try but I'll settle for drawfagging on /v/ and /co/ for memes.
My dream is to create graphic novels like Stan Lee(RIP) did so I'll see how that turn out.
I even downloaded pic related from an /ic/ book dump and have been grinding it and loomis for some time now.

>>4868976
Oh, you're someone else completely. That makes more sense.

>>4868988
That you didn't get the response that you wanted? Fuck off with the bullshit spouting.

>>4868399
Based anon. Thanks. I was getting through more advanced stuff like composition but always felt like my hard surface was lackluster.
>>4868413
Perspective theory from Scott Robertson and strangely enough vilppu showed me how to apply it.

>>4868994
You're not someone else?
> I think someones jealous of another anon here getting further ahead of him.
You speak like a woman, didn't know that, my bad. Grind your fundies.

>>4869000
>grind your fundies
The literal mindset of a NGMI.

critique pls

>>4869004
>The literal mindset of a NGMI.
NGMI!!!!
"grind your fundies
You can have fun later"

>>4868948
>>4868967
Anon, I started drawing a month and a half ago. I'm 30 hours into the first part of a fundamental course, which asks you go through it all before attempting the lessons on the second run. I'm also working through DaB and understand the concept of doing confidence in your lines. Which is why I'm still doing that and spend time on some of these to reline them afterwards like I did here, >>4861168

It's neat that you're trying to be helpful, but I'm not going to grind fundamental during my breaks at work, I'm going to doodle on break, not work on break.

>>4868497
Disneyfag?

>>4869005
That muscle on her neck is too much

I'm practicing loomis but I still cant make it look 3d even with the joke of hatching that im trying to do

>>4869122
That's because it takes time, you have to look for the changes to be made after each attempt. After a while it'll just become natural. But remember you have to look and mark your mistakes after each attempt. Don't just keep repeating it blindly anon.

getting bored of fundies so i tried copying a parrot photo from google. i tried finding shapes in values like in keys to drawing. it’s unfinished and lacking some form, how’d i do?

>>4869127
ref

>>4869127
What were the basic shapes you found? Because I'm not seeing any, I'm seeing squiglies that look like they attempted to follow an image. Not breaking it down into triangles, boxes or ellipses.

>>4869123
I dont take literal note of it but I keep altering the way I go about it, from implying some to using different sorts of pencils

>>4869131
>basic shapes
no, more like drawing lines to separate changes in value

>>4869082
Shit. I really have stagnated, haven't I?

>>4869005
you need to improve your line game

>>4869129
nice ref

>>4869333
pls make tail longer

Can I get some advice with this shirt, or anything else you can find wrong? I hate that I can't even figure out the folds on a simple tee. Apologies for the light lines, currently a wip.

Any tips for fabric?

>>4869268
Haha, that makes two of us

What do you think, /beg/? I'd just like to know what could be better and how to simplify hair. I always end up making it look messy.

>>4865423
post your progress but only using two drawings of the same character

>>4867805
Bucci is a painter, an artist /beg/tard

>>4869467
the fabric is not your issue there anon.

>>4869463
make sure the folds still follow the contours of the torso. The way you've got them set up there implies that the shirt is cutting through his torso.

>>4865423
Sorry if this should be it's own thread, but how do you start selling your art? I'm not really great with social media and thus don't know where to go about posting my work.

arm is flat but the anatomy and pen pressure is fantastic

>>4869685
meant for
>>4869667

I feel like I’m being racist.

>>4869506
Well, I’ve taken the advice to broaden my horizons to start. Trying to paint bulk isn’t a and landscapes. I feel like I’m back at square one. I guess that means I’m outside my comfort zone.

>>4869506
Well now I, trying buildings and realizing I know absolutely nothing. I really need to try this reference thing people keep talking about.

gonna post this here because i consider myself a beginner still. but yeah. here's my stupid cringe drawing

>>4869757
Looks cool but you can barely tell what it is or what is going on, lines look nice so you've probably been doodling a while, believe it or not this will help you if you ever decide to learn shit

>>4869659
I spent the most time on the fabric but yea I know.

Are the fine tip pens in proko's necessary? The reasons given for not using something else seems to me that break down to "so you learn from your mistakes", or some dumb shit like "WE LIVE IN A FAST WORLD" instead of actually providing a good reason for not doing so. I'm a poorfag, thanks in advance.

I just went back to traditional and damn this shit sucks compared to being a digitalchad

>>4869923
Where does Proko make you draw in pen? Do you mean draw a box? Either way fuck it, use the pen you have. Regular cheap ass ball point pens are incredible.

>>4869932
>I just went back to traditional and damn this shit sucks compared to being a digitalchad
why?

>>4869959
I miss muh ctrl-Z

does anyone have tutorials on how to draw a dick? I've tried going from reference but mine's too small :(

>anatomy
>perspective
>lineart
>construction

don't know how to go about color wth this one.

how can I make the lineart more appealing than the sketch?

>>4870252
ngmi

>>4870325
follow the sketch more closely, like the fringe in the sketch it has a better shapes. And vary more the line thickness.

>>4868983
liking how the lips stand out! keep it up

Hamtpon upper torso muscle on figure from imagination. Are muscles laiddown properly? I had hard time with deltoid muscle.

I tried to draw a pose with no reference. How bad is it?

>>4865423
my friend is trying to become a funny comic arttist. please tell me where he can improve and if you think it's funny haha. thanks! :)

lineart almost there

>>4870769
anyone gonna call this mf out for not being /beg/?

>>4870772
It’s nice to have the shows offs around to give us something to aspire to. Although his inking is a little dull.

>>4870772
how is it not /beg/?

>>4870772
>>4870775
ehm maybe it's an insecurity issue then but i consider myself to be a /beg/ through and through

>>4870769
Yep, not beg

>>4870772
About 70% of the posts itt arent /beg/, this thread should just be renamed to /int/ at this point.

>>4869546
The nose makes it seem the face is supposed to be tilted upwards, but the rest of the features are pointing forward. I'd say either change the nose or the other features. The position of the mouth is a little bit off as the face is slightly tilted to the right. The neck is too small and the chin is probably off.

>>4870799
Yeah, but the moment anybody says they’re not beg the crabs will crawl out of the ... coral? ... to nitpick then into begdom again.
So, in short, fuck you and I hope you die soon and suffer horribly.

>>4870789
because this >>4869467 is what a /beg/ looks like. not some nigger doing cleaned up lineart of multiple characters in a scene with a working sense of perspective.

>>4870807
>that shading
>/beg/
Nah fuck off

>>4870807
>being able to hold a pencil
>/beg/
nice try /int/faggot

ive trained for over a week straight and i still sorta suck at photoshop

/beg/ purists freak me out.
why the fuck would you want an exclusively /beg/ thread for retards? whos going to give you any competent advice then.

How to improve this?

>>4870835
I post here because I don't want advice

>>4870851
let me see your work

>>4870835
Intoids are here to flex, not to give advice

>>4870749
This is actually pretty good.

>>4870857
You already saw it

>>4870858
You just feel insecure about your skills. You'd love it if this thread was nothing but shit that made you feel better about the works you make but no, it is not going to happen.
Now stop crabbing and go back to fun with a pencil you pathetic /beg/ger

>>4870874
>stop crabbing and go back to meme with a pencil
Ironic. Get the fuck off my thread intranny.

>>4870749
>>4870769
Not /beg

>>4870885
>cant into loomis
>wonders why even hobbyist-tier art mogs him
lmaoing @ ya

>>4870890
not /beg/ fuck off

>>4870935
trust me this is one of those one off drawings that happen by luck, if you saw the rest of my stuff you wouldn't be saying that

>>4870943
pyw

THE /INT/OIDS ARE INVADING /BEG/ AGAIN AHAHAHAAHAHAHA

1 month since starting drawing. Trying to get in the habit of not making figures stiff when drawing from imagination. My knowledge of anatomy is almost non existant at this point. Grinding Loomis is probably what I'll need to do for now.
Also, any good tutorials on hair?

>>4870943

>>4870946
here you go

Think we gotta go back and restate what qualifies as "beg".

I thought its a person drawing who GROSSLY fails at grasping the fundamentals; the basics, in a way that is CLEARLY unintentional.

40% of the posts here aren't beg.

>>4870959
you aren't /beg/

any recommended tan paper for markers? i use a strathmore book atm

Trying to ink but I suck dick and my sketching isn't much better. Haven't done the muscles on the legs yet. Should I finish it or kill myself now? Am I going to make it /fit/?.. I mean /ic/?

>>4870996
Not /beg

How can I improve this?

>>4871024
This too

>>4871024
>>4871025
Using reference, if you did use it you must try to learn to trust your eyes better.
Keys to drawing if the latter

>>4870956
>>4870957
not /beg/

o shit is it beg graduation day? this one took me almost 2 hours give me that sweet diploma

>>4871046
This is the person calling you intoid

>>4871046
post this on artstation and you'll have a job by the end of the day brother

What even happened to /int/? Did it die?

>>4871046
Not /beg

>>4871096
It was full of self important shitters fellating eachother and treading very lightly with critique so nobody improved. it eventually died and imploded when begs started posting and thinking they were int and int was too pussy to call them bad. The few times they did, the beg shitters pushed back and the int fags buckled under and conceded to them. Embarrassingly dishonest waste of a thread, I'm glad it's over

>>4871114
Ye but look at the state of /beg/ now

Well after getting ass blasted the last few times I've posted I'm now using Krita always and have went back to my old anatomy style. Does it look better?

>>4871126
Not /beg

>>4871120
At least it's honest

>>4871131
Honestly shit with people who feel someone slightly better than them posting is a personal insult.

>>4871129
In a bad way right?

>>4871136
kek yea and the passive aggressive crits they give crack me the fuck up. I'll take that any day though. 99% of artfags are just fuckin bonkers insane

>>4871142
It’s because of the abnormally high femoid percentage.
This board made me hate women and trannies much much more than /r9k/ ever did.

Going back to studying after a few days off

>>4871151
ref

>>4871053
>>4871058
>>4871102
Thanks guys I'm already hired at cartoon network, they made me head artist I told them I'm not sure I'm ready but they really wanna jump on that reboot train with the rest of the soulless hacks that run everything into the ground

>>4871155
Blog?

>>4869463
>>4869467
>>4869546
>>4869005
>>4868983
>>4870619
>>4870749
>>4870769
>>4870828
>>4870890
>>4870956
>>4870955
>>4870996
>>4871024
>>4871025
>>4871046
>>4871126
>>4871151
>>4871155
All of you are /beg/ and are welcome to share yur work, give feedback and otherwise participate in our /beg/ community!

>>4871069
Very nice style, anon. The only things that are bothering me a bit is how forward the lower lip is (I guess that was on purpose, but idk it feels a bit weird to me) the back of the neck should be higher (the way it is now make it looks like it doesn't have volume) and the ear should be larger and less rounder, as he's an older guy. The eyes are the best part, loved it. Keep it up

I read that the more a plane turns away from the light source the darker it is
Why is that though? I see no reason why plane b on the shape A would be darker than plane a. They are still both directly illuminated by the light source
I understand why that would be the case with shape B, plane a is clearly in the shadow

>>4871169
dios mio

>>4871170
danke

>>4871126
>muh style

>>4871208
I'm not using it as an excuse for it not being good you fucking retard it should be obvious I meant the way I used to draw anatomy.

>>4871224
Bro

bad is now a style

>>4871169
>mine wasn't quoted
trying to frame me i see

>>4871169
I am /beg/

>>4871169
>All of you are /beg/ and are welcome to share yur work
yes
>give feedback
No!

Drawing from reference sucks dick

>>4871247
I was an int like you, I had everything for almost 5 minutes now I'm back at the bottom

Can someone rate my drawing of desu girl.
Also I know the shoes are shit, that's the only part I didn't really try one.

>>4869665
Thanks, I knew that stuff didn't make sense, felt like I just threw them on there.

>his
...I've failed.

>>4871278
Having a fresh pair of eyes look at ones art can always be helpful.

please critique

>>4871363
where'd you learn to draw clothes from? also your leg position looks flat, not so much the shoe

>>4870801
Thanks anon i see what you mean about the nose, although she does have a somewhat upturned nose. Looking back at the reference, I think it needs to be longer to get that forward facing position.

tried to do my first plein air ever. on a fucking ipad. just kill me. took 1.5 hours to get this far

>>4870769
The girls legs tho. Is she mid-shrinking? Other than her, it looks good, seems like a story is happening which is what you want from a comic panel.

>>4871401
heres the ref if anyone cares

1/4

3/4

>>4871401
I can see where it's going, and it resembles the ref but I'd try to focus on shapes. There's triangles everywhere for the mountains, cliffs et c. But you're doing straight lines which muddies things together. Think blocky. Details don't matter until you can tell it's a mountain range from across the room.

4/4 finito

>>4871363
polishing turds i see

>>4871401
If you want to try your hand at it now, anon, you can add a little bit of perspective to a work like this. That reference is perfect for it because you can use the rocks above and below the viewer as the foreground, the area with people and trees as the middle ground, and the mountains as the background. By breaking it down into simple planes, it can give your piece more depth.

>>4871396
No where honestly, I don't know how to draw at all and I just copied this image.
>>4871434
Yep, I don't finish any art so I thought why not finish this drawing, it will be something to do.
And it was basically a redraw from a drawing from 2019.

>>4870749
Are you joking? I obviously suck. This place is confusing.

>>4871401
>>4871405
did u use a ref or did u do it from life and then took a picture.
Painting irl i find much more challenging.
went out and tried to do some cathedral, it was hell.

>>4871452
crabs will try to make you believe you're good.
protip you aren't

>>4871177
Anyone? Is this just a dumb question or does no one know?

>>4871393
Breasts are pretty far apart and the arm is just bad, knees also lack details but I can't help with that,I'm just a beginner myself.

>>4871490
okay thanks i know what i need to study

>>4870749
Arm holes on shirts are bigger than you think. Go look at a real shirt, where the sleeve meets the torso.

Also The fabric seems to not be affected by gravity. Especially under his arms and inside his legs. Looks super starchy. Let the fabric droop more.

>>4871484
>>4871177
I'm not sure what's happening on the left side of the drawing, but here's the deal with the right side.

Plane A has a given surface area, and is positioned so that it interacts with a certain amount of light. As it turns away from the light it has the SAME surface area, but is interacting with a smaller amount of light proportionally.

To better explain, imagine a light that is projecting a 1 foot by 1 foot square beam. Now you put a 1 foot by 1 foot piece of cardboard right in front of it. Now it's interacting with 100% of the photons leaving the light. If you angle the cardboard, it has the same surface area, but some of the light will be escaping past it. Fewer photons + same surface area = dimmer (i.e. fewer of the photons bounce off and enter the eye of the viewer).

>>4871508
>>4871507
Looks like somewhere along the centerline got out of whack. You did get the angle of the features lined up nicely but the horizontal position is a little shifted

>>4871526
ahh fuck i always forget center line cheers

>>4871468
Protip, you are a crab and a fagit.

>>4871500
Thanks for the tips!

>>4871024
cleaner lines

>>4871501
Thanks anon, that's a very good explanation.
On the left the grey area was supposed to represent a shadow.

>>4869935
Yeah, draw a box. Got a cheap refillable one and some ink, i guess it'll do.

>>4871096
it was always dead

>try loomis
>first few pages in
>draw circle
>draw owl

keep going or practice some very basic stuff?

>>4871363
04/10 - the composition is nice; everything else is pretty beg.

>>4871587
theyre just demonstation pictures anon...i dont think they're meant to be drawn as he hasnt even covered the method at all

>>4871393
her left bang is much longer than the right one.
right arm is too long

asdasdasd

Do I really need all these fucking materials for drawing on the right side of the brain? Is this some scheme made by art supply stores? Indian ink??

>>4871598
Well I guess this make sense. Asked myself how am I supposed to draw this after a circle and a few construction lines.

>>4871612
well the book kind of is like that, the proko videos are literally better than the book idgaf, the book is just so vague its like he didnt write it like a beginers book, treat me like a toddler ffs IM FUCKING TRASH AT ART LOOMIS

>>4871465
youre looks really nice. wish i had shit like that in my city. my city is the epitome of soulless. i worked on it and when i was finished i took the pic. hence why i used such light values
>>4871444
checked. for the perspective issue i think i might have just chose a bad composition with the tree line literally being a line and being so flush with the rock face? and the face its being hit directly with light and there arent many shadows doesnt help. maybe i should extend the canvas to the right more so i show the opposing canyon face. i actually opted on removing the bottom rocks. since i went so light on the values i was basically making them almost white and adding darker values would make it blend with the mid ground (even though it kind of does that anyways)
>>4871428
>trianges
dang its so obvious now that you point it out. and good call on how straight everything is in mine. would look a lot more organic with some angles

Thanks for the input bros

>>4871607
not /beg/

>>4871624
>le only floating loomis heads are beg meme

>>4871607
this looks so good but at the same time the left hand is so /beg, also dimples of venus would be the best thing in this picture but you did not add them.

>>4871628
*Right hand

>>4871587
A quick tip for the future. While you are learning don't go straight for some fantasy bullshit. Draw normal humans.

faber castell pitt pens - landscape, obviously used for figure drawing tho

Currently copying others to get a solid grasp on some stuff, will this help me understand things faster?

>>4871716
if you understand what fundamentals you are trying to copy

>>4871600
thanks

>>4871691
I'm going to add some shadows to the right hand and leg... may have to tighten up the right leg.

All these artists I'm listening to and studying keep saying your art doesn't have to be perfect and really just needs to convey the message, but how do I know when what I've drawn is "good enough?" Like obviously I should have my fundies down, but if maybe my vanishing points don't all meet up exactly or whatever is that fine?

>>4867871
do keys to drawing instead
>>4868187
better than me
>>4868299
>keys to drawing
>>4868366
>keys to drawing
>>4868440
>keys to drawing
>>4868497
gmi energy, just draw
>>4868822
>keys to drawing
>>4869005
>keys to drawing
>>4869127
nice, keep drawing, use ur brain tho, think, look and think about what you are seeing, and what you are feeling, and make it look cool
>>4869467
>keys to drawing
>>4869546
>ktd
>>4869667
not beg get out
>>4870320
SIMPLER, SIMPLE SIMPLE, SIIIIIMPLEEEE KEEP IT SIMPLE I bet you listen to metal
>>4870955
>keys to drawing
>>4871024
>keys to drawing
>>4871126
>keys to drawing
>>4871363
>keys to drawing
>>4871393
>keys to drawing
>>4871747
if you tried your best its good enough

>>4871788
DAB>>>>>KTD
Perspective is everything

Did some eyes. Left page (except ones with stars) were copied. starred images and the right were drawn from reference

>>4871788
>keys to drawing
>do this 30 year out of date book
>because you want to learn programming you should learn LISP

>>4871795
wtf is dab?
drawing is everything

>>4871815
https://drawabox.com/

>>4871808
Ok, I'll give you the up to date, BETTER THAN KEYS TO DRAWING, BETTER THAN FUN WITH A PENCIL, BETTER THAN BETTY EDWARDS, BETTER THAN ANY BEGINNER BOOK
THE ABSOLUTE BEST RESOURCE FOR BEGINNERS EVER MADE 2020 UP TO DATE RIGHT NOW
are you gonna fucking listen to me? LETS GOOOOOO

https://www.schoolism.com/online-drawing-classes/drawing-fundamentals-thomas-fluharty

this is it, this is the ABSOLUTE BEST COURSE FOR BEGINNERS I HAVE EVER EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE, NOTHING EVEN COMES FUCKING CLOSE TO THIS

>>4871815

>>4871827
>4 lessons
Odd, the one I'm taking right now is quite a bit longer than this. And this doesn't even show you anything useful. It's just "so yea, you want to draw in a straight line and with perspective, *pat pat* your learning."

>>4871827
>In my first lecture, I will talk about the difference between looking and seeing.
>In this lecture, I will talk about value or tone
>I will start this lesson by discussing perspective and the horizon line.
>in this lecture, I will talk about what good composition is and is not.
>In this lecture, I will talk about an oft-overlooked aspect of storytelling: gesture.

None of this is fundamentals, it's just ranting.

>>4871835
>I will talk about an oft-overlooked aspect of storytelling: gesture.
Overlooked by who?

>>4871834
which one are you taking?
>>4871835
:( I'm sorry

>>4865423
>feet edition
Cool because I don't know how to draw them
here's some sketch

Even the most construction obsessed dudes around, like Scott Robertson or Peter Han, say that you learn a lot of shit and develop a visual library just by observing and making still lifes. There is no reason to not learn observational drawing which DAB doesn't teach(or didn't the last time I checked).

>>4871873
Necesitas mas Loomis

>>4871876
https://drawabox.com/lesson/2/3/observationvsconstruction
just use both

K since everyone thinks I belong in the /beg/ thread, figure I might as well get comfortable.

>>4865501
overall getting there. look at picasso.
>>4867690
ambitious despite the flaws you have good taste.
>>4867700
interesting.
>>4867707
good. maybe push darks more or use a second color? they look good together.
>>4867777
good. nice quads.
>>4867834
ambitious, keep going.
>>4867835
i like the linework.
>>4867871
good job
>>4867947
a little blurry but you're getting there. use a hard round in juxtaposition to all the blending you're doing.
>>4868187
good now finish by rendering it.
>>4868299
good but maybe learn some color theory, i would look at some tutorials.
>>4868345
ambitious. foreshortening is really difficult, but keep going. now try adding greys. and eventually blacks.
>>4868366
if loomis is working for you do it, but don't be afraid to consider other teaching methods, like vilppu in the /video/ thread.
>>4868440
i recognize that nose. good but just dont get lazy and not erase the lines where the cigarette and fingers meet.
>>4868497
good energy.
>>4868822
you have a charming aesthetic.
>>4868983
look at some expressionist painters to get some ideas about color.
>>4869005
you're learning. keep going.
>>4869127
good shapes but why'd ya stop drawing? finish the damn bird.
>>4869333
i like it. nice trips.
>>4869463
you have a good sense of construction and nice interaction between wavy and straight lines.
>>4869467
keep doing what youre doing.
>>4869546
are you trying to do a traditionally anime pose but western? the hands look good.
>>4869663
nice attempt at capturing different male types.
>>4869667
a~! very nice.
>>4869747
you're not. art is art. explore caricatures and exaggerating features without falling in the pit that is NY side of the street caricature art.
>>4869754
watch "box forms" from vilppu in the /video/ thread.
>>4869757
if you're in pain, drawing is a great way to let that pain breathe. don't do self harm pls.

>>4871808
I didn't know that the human anatomy had an update in the last 30 years

2BvmHBiRn6ULRO6k

>>4871923
dios mio otra vez

Should I do Keys to Drawing or Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain?

>>4871936
key to the right side of the brain

>>4871937
keys*

in all seriousness though; https://mega.nz/folder/RIx3TJxJ#_Nna8t01kPxENJ8KSzXqwg/folder/EUJHgKAZ

>>4871747
If you are talking about how to know when your art is done, I think it is when you start getting diminished returns.

>>4871941
Yeah that looks good but I've barely even held a pencil

>>4870252
interesting use of spray can. keep going.
>>4870320
perhaps yellow? look at pic related.
>>4870325
by fusing your lineart and sketch styles/approach. pay idiotic levels of attention to your finger, the pencil tip, the paper, when you sketch and when you ink. note the differences and adapt your style to suite you.
>>4870749
good hands. watch foot construction by vilppu in the /video/ thread.
>>4870755
nice social commentary i suppose.
>>4870828
im not sure what i'm looking at. oh wait keyblade.. i see. i think you have a bright future in abstract painting desu.
>>4870890
good but kind of rough maybe blend more?
>>4870955
grinding vilppu is what you need to do now. go to the /video/ thread. videos are better than books imo.
>>4870956
are you actually trying think how the shadow is supposed to fall or are you just being lazy?
>>4870996
ok good now color it or something.
>>4871024
is this an irl study? keep doing those.
>>4871025
watch vilppu on hands in the /video/ thread.
>>4871046
if you're not gonna put in the effort or even give a fuck, stop wasting time and just dont post.
>>4871069
good.
>>4871126
i like that you're trying to adapt a saying into art. good workout for the brain.
>>4871151
good.
>>4871155
see what i said before.
>>4871280
right it's not as fun, which i why i like to take breaks and draw from imagination then go back to ref and back and forth etc.
>>4871363
go watch vilppu in the /video/ thread and specifically watch the videos on form/ you have good taste and rendering but you need to learn how to depict form in space.
>>4871393
good.
>>4871401
good try for going outdoors. unless *sigh* sort've defeats the purpose of plein air painting if you don't actually go outside am i right?

im tired rn but will get the rest l8r.

>>4871950
eh just do it digitally

>>4871965
no as in I'm 23 and haven't drawn since I was 8, anatomy seems a little far fetched right now

>>4871910
si

>>4871955
fuck you wtf

AHHHH I CANT FIND THE FUCKING MIDPOINT HELP

>>4871923
>>4871955
thank you, mass reply friend

i cant draw anymore boxes
but i must
but i dont want to
but i have to...

>>4872194
stop drawing boxes you fucking baboon you dont get anything out of it

>>4871955
i was outside when i did all that. i took the pic when i was done

Reading Keys to Drawing right now, how do you tell when to move to another chapter?
And should I repeat the assignments as practice?

>>4872200
i just reached 100 boxes
i must continue...

>>4865423

Tried drawing realistically for the first time, I don't know if I should bother finishing it. Also dropped fun w/ pencil because you guys said so.

Any improvements?

>>4872446
Good now pick it up again

>>4872450
fuck, ok

>>4872454
I was just memeing but here goes real advice:
Whenever you start a book go through it until you finish it. If unironically start chasing meme teacher after mene teacher starting anew every time, you won’t learn anything even if the material is good.

New thread
>>4872464
>>4872464
>>4872464

>>4872200
when you burnout; don't blame dab

>>4871972
oh i see. Well good luck anyways anon!

>>4872320
DEEP NAVEL.

>>4870325
I'd say fill in the pupils. She's looking a bit hypnotized.