/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Useful stuff

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stanislav Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

im gmi. all art girls are welcome to some o' dis.

what does gmi mean

>>4860825
finna do it

>>4860827
gotcha
then i'm definitely gmi

>>4860832
>>4860827
NGMI

>>4860825

gonna make it, which I'm gonna do

how do i do loomis head

>>4860850
Shoe is great, work on calve roundness

>>4860865
real advice, thank you

study i did? bad?

>>4860880
Took me a while to figure out which ones were the studies and which were the photos.
You got the lighting and contrast down. Most beginners on here shade too lightly, it seems.

>>4855340
took some advices from the anons that replied to me in this thread. I think this looks better but obviously im looking forward to more critique

>>4860880
Looks great anon. Not much in the way of criticism, other than to maybe soften out some of these subtle gradations because in some areas in looks a little "patchy", but given they're probably just thumbnails I really can't knock you for that. Keep it up!

any tips for applying texture/detail to soil? i'm not really sure what i'm doing desu

>>4860918
Tits look a bit off gravitywise

Here's a sketch//WIP I made

>>4860850
Shoe perspective relative to the leg looks off, like they're facing different directions
Also the bone on the ankle looks off and kinda makes it look like they have their shoe on the wrong foot.

>>4860998
here is the reference I used for the foot+leg.

>>4860918
You are putting too much details making it look like a dry grape. You don't need to draw every single bump and fold.

Also the shape of the muscles are not quite right.

>>4860810
Want to go through scott robertson's how to draw book.Do I need all the elipse guides and other stuff or will a ruler suffice?

>>4860992
stop chicken scratching

>>4860918
Lower the titties, top titty should be facing outwards, bigger hands, back arm looks detached

>>4861008
>Want to go through scott robertson's how to draw
https://drawabox.com/article/h2d/therightway
https://youtu.be/nZHU91rRkFQ?t=833

>>4861006
>You are putting too much details making it look like a dry grape.
does this look better or should i remove even more?

>>4860918
legs looked better before

>>4861031
it's not the level of detail it's where your putting it. You need to study lighting and how it affects the body, ie there wouldn't be a dark shadow around both sides of the abdomen and the lighting in general is inconsistent. Place a spot somewhere as reference and shade accordingly

>>4860965
dope perspective and composition friend

>>4861027
thank you

Getting used to this whole digital drawing thing. Feels good man

>>4861089
goddamn thats good

did you use a reference? how long have you been drawing?

Anyone have a desk lamp they suggest? I've tried swapping out my room lights to 1400 lumens, which was fantastic for drawing and doing shit, but I had to pull them the same weekend I installed them because I stayed up for like 35 hours from not getting tired with how bright they were. And the 500 lumen ones I use to make sure I can sleep are too dim to really draw.

I have a little lamp that I used for reading to help. But it's not bright enough to light up my desk like I want.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FPK8CHC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm doing the re-lining on this one >>4859476
and just really dislike how I don't have enough light to do it.

>>4861031

Am I cheating too much?

What I did was download a painting from artstation and then I copied a character silhouette with lasso tool, and rendered alittle bit and concept done.

I find it too fun and now grinding the normal way seems boring AF fuck me

>>4861101
>did you use a reference?
the reference is in the fucking picture anon

>>4861103
Alright, and done with that. Can I get some advice on line weight positioning. I know further away should be lighter and thinner, and overlaps should be darker. but I'm not sure where else to put certain weights. Like for the bangs, should that be even thicker than say the jaw line since it's technically closer.

>>4861168
On a HEAD, don't worry about the distance thing. That's more for like... character vs. background weights.

1st consideration is LIGHT. Lines away from the light are bolder (usually this means the bottom of a form has a thicker line).

2nd (on this drawing) is any "drop shadows", meaning the bangs could have a thick line to indicate shadowing on the head. Lips on the teeth, eyelids on the eyeballs. etc.

>>4861179
Appreciate it. I'm almost finished with the first run through of the character course and the line thickness was covered, but didn't quite land with me yet.

The instructor stated it's best to go through the course once not doing any of the exercises, just to listen and take notes. And then on the second run through to do everything so the concepts stick better.

>>4861103
>>4861168
I'm looking over it now between the two. It feels like the character lost something somewhere. I'm seeing that I cut some areas from round to flat, and I'm not happy with how I made the nose more angular on the top instead of round like before. Also feels like I pushed the jaw to far back.

I really need to practice more line art I think, it just feels like I changed the whole character when I did it. Also can't decide if I like the lashes or not.

>>4861166
Yes and no. It's a neat way to pull the idea. But try and do the silhouettes yourself. Or at least after doing this portion recreate the character.

>>4861167
shit i thought that was just a flat/shade side by side

Self portrait. Lot of effort/time. Just a little training.

Rip it up

>>4861148
Great critique, taught me stuffs and Im not even skinnyladyanon.
Thank you

besides the leg, there is something wrong about this training, but no matter who i ask nobody gives a genuine critique

>>4861148
thanks for the detailed critique man, wish we had more people like you here

>>4861242
No need to rip, it's a classic beginner face. Hard outlines on features? Stringy spaghetti hair? Nostrils that point straight forward? Poor anatomy on all features and all shading is muddy midtones? Check to all of them.

Nothing wrong with it, it's a good effort, but it's a beginner face. You need improvement in every fundamental area to proceed so get started.

>>4861253
Happy to help! I drew one almost EXACTLY like this, with all the same flaws, a while back. They look so similar it's crazy. I'm much better now and you will be too, I'm sure.

>>4861252
The arm has no form, so I can't tell if it's just one really long bone with no joint, or humerus is just... hella long. In fact I can't tell if he even has 4 limbs. ALL edges on the drawing are too rough to interpret, all shading is too blobby to give a sense of form. All anatomy is fundamentally incomplete or incorrect.

Not being mean, that's a real critique. What is your goal with this exercise? Do you know, or are you just doing it because someone said to do it?

>>4861252
thanks for the critique, very appreciated. my goal was to experiment with various techniques, but since i 'm a /beg/ in this sector i needed some advice. i drew it just for hobbyism

>>4861201
That happens when you redraw ANYTHING. You always lose something undefinable and hopefully regain something else. Only by doing it enough times to consistently get "that thing you like about it" will you master it, so don't freak out.

From an outsider perspective, I loved the old one, love the new one more, can't wait to see it inked, please post your next one.

my posts go ignored

>>4861263
i'm a retard i pinged myself

>>4861242
Cute if tranny

tried doing the upside down guy for the first time. honestly im pleasantly surprised. fingers fucked me up though.

>>4861263
if i don't reply myself again like a retard, i just wanted to say thanks for the advice, it is very appreciated. now i just need to apply myself more in anatomy and blending

>>4861283
Just another cis male

>>4861292
No problem!

Straight up though... anatomy yes, blending NO. Getting better at "blending" is 100% not what you need right now.

If you want to get good... if it's not just for play but you want to be good... you need to get on a path of mastery that begins with fundamentals. You can start with perspective since it is among the fastest ways to improve and is the most "objective" among the fundamentals.

Find a beginner course and grind for 6 months a year.

>>4861252
Scale your image :)
construct the pose if you dont have a reference to study from.
Im a huge fan of the painterly "no linework" style, but for learning, you are making everything harder when there is no structured linework to paint on top.
Keep it up

>>4861168
now draw 100 more

>>4861350
But I need to start learning to do bodies anon. I can't draw heads forever. Well, I guess I could.

>>4861274
Thanks, I am starting to notice little details that I like more than before, and I'll probably start making a few characters several times over with the changes to see which ones I like more.

>Ink
Now that's a step I'm not sure I'm ready for.

im not sure i understand the femabody. can a kind femanon post their nudes to help my progress along?

>>4861148
Do you have a blog anon?

>>4861010
Why is it bad in a sketch?

>>4860992
Any other crits pls? <3

>>4861362
faggot

>>4861362
depends, do you like thick girls?

>>4861362

Anons, I've been banned from uploading files from my IP address. If I upload elsewhere and post a link, could I get some critique ?

>>4861148
What a fine critique. Fitting of an art teacher.

>>4861492
Just gonna go ahead and toss it out there and cross my fingers.

https://i.imgur.com/aj9c463.jpg

>>4861531
cute
Hands and face can be improved. Work on it

>>4861436
timestamp

>>4861436
belly rubs

>>4861027
i watched the whole thing and i'm really curious about the national russian academy of art books. The drawings shown in the video were insane
starts 7:24

This one took too much time

>>4861655
Those aren't the Russian Academy drawings, those are hers (follow her on instagram she's great).

She's talking about the Russian Academy drawings while they show hers, which was a bad editing choice.

>>4861436
HHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG
I wish this really was a femanon bros

Hello everyone. I'm 29 and I will start learning to draw. At the end of my drawing adventure, I want to draw cute anime girls do cute things. I hope you will all attack my work and motivate me to not be a failure.

>>4861397
I don't, where do the cool art guys normally make their blogs?

https://files.catbox.moe/r5zv3i.png
What did I do wrong here, mostly perspective wise? Anything conceptual I'm not considering?
Would also be happy about one of those "here's everything you fucked up" graphics.
>>4861287
Mine looks way scary.
>>4861746
You and me both.

>>4861430
Honestly, there's a certain beauty in this.

>>4860810
Megascrub here, what brush in photoshop is the closest to an irl pencil? I do have a tablet.

Finished my first finished digital drawing after ages, what should I improve other than anatomy in general?

how did i do?

When manga has super-clean line work, can I assume it was done digitally?

Like, this image, was it digital from the start, or analog that they scanned and post-processed before publishing?

>>4861866
Another example. You can see some imperfections from wobbly hands, but it's still hard to tell if it drawn on paper or digital from the start.

I have a lot of trouble keeping myself to a practice regime when nothing i produce is legible yet and I struggle to learn from works of those like Loomis.
I'm thinking of taking an introductory drawing course at the university I go to, would any anons recommend this / have experienced this before?

>>4861866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyIOZSR08zQ

>>4861754
Twitter. Post your current work anyway

tried some 'style' but just looks like a 8 year old drawing lol

I drew this picture from a reference a year ago, does anyone recognise who the artist of the reference is?

Figure study I did today. I think the lineart turned out real good, but the head was a real pain in the ass and looks very art-nouveau.

This might be a dumb question, but is there a decently cheap phone that has tablet-ish drawing functionality? I used to have a Samsung Note 2 and I remember it having a decent stylus.
Does it even make sense to buy one of those or are phone displays too small to seriously draw anything anyway?

>>4861924
very nice. Redo it now and compare?

>>4861966
No I recently got back to drawing after a long break and looking for inspiration.

>>4861972
ah i see

Why haven't anyone invented something to transfer the knowledge and skills from someone to another, I'm tired of seeing old masters dying with all that knowledge going to waste

>>4861991
yeah man they should make some sort of symbols or something so we can communicate knowledge, put it on paper maybe i dunno just an idea

>>4862036
too indirect and very inefficient

>>4862038
maybe then, and this is even crazier like sci fi, but imagine if someone could capture an image of themselves showing these techniques and this knowledge, almost like youre seeing them in real life, i should patent these ideas

>>4862045
>too indirect and very inefficient
just look at /ic/, how long it takes for them to go from beg to master like, you know, the old masters. not to mention the high % that never become a master

>>4862036
>>4862045
Smooth brain post. It takes years upon years of practice to become as good as the best person to ever draw. Now imagine if that knowledge didn't take years, but hours to attain. There would be artists with hundreds of years worth of experience and skills in the future.
>>4861991
That's probably a long way off. First we would need a way to scan the brain for "knowledge" / functional paths and their relationships, which would in itself turn society on it's head, and then we'd need to find a way to replicate wanted knowledge into another's brain without removing their own personality (unless you just want a brain clone, but that's useless for the purpose of learning something yourself).

>>4861870
no way this is digital

>>4862083
it could be, i've seen some very traditional looking manga made digitally

>>4861855
All of the faces are flat and it looks like some of their faces are sliding off.

I can recognize the characters and it looks like you drew their eye shapes, hair styles, and noses accurately. It looks like you are trying to copy a reference.

Try studying your references so you can understand what you are drawing.

Don't just think of how the characters look, think of the characters form.

FUCK I CANT DO THE TONAL BAR
HELP ME

>>4861935
the hands look a bit too big and the left boob looks like it's too close to her collar bone.
I like the smooth lines and the shape of her torso looks nice. :)

>>4862120
lies

>>4861809
I've been using the KoiFishSushi pencil brush forever, for when I need a pencil brush. Just google "Photoshop pencil brush", there's hundreds of them.

>>4861817
Texture, for one. Those squiggles on the metal parts aren't accomplishing what you think they are. Your colors are pretty drab, too.
But the biggest flaw is giving cloth/armor volume. Your metal (I'm assuming that's metal) on the chest and arms are paper thin - they would have weight to them, thickness. The folds of the cloth aren't credible, and how they hang on the body.
Also, start experimenting with line weight. There's nothing interesting to look at, when it's all the same line weight. This is art, not architecture.

>>4861935
It's not a bad attempt overall, but the face is about 6 inches too forward from the spine. The entire head would be sitting back much further than that.

>>4860825
im not sure, i dont think i've ever heard those words

so uhh

>>4862127
fucking hell you pieces of shit keep ignoring ALL MY POSTS

if people who actually post work get ignored what do you think some shitpost gets?

>>4862199
I POSTED WORK YESTERDAY AND THE DAY BEFORE THAT AND SO ON

>>4861948
I think you’re better off buying a tablet that connects to a phone, drawing on a phone would ruin your wrist

>>4862201
Keep trying, don't take it to heart. Sometimes decent posts are just ignored.

>>4862214
i cant do a tonal bar, i could but i forgot, i cant right now
i cant do it right now
but if i cant i cant move on to other stuff
and that means ill be stuck because OF FUCKING KEYS TO DRAWING I HATE THAT BOOK
I LOATHE IT
FULL HOMELANDER ON THAT BITCH
I FUCKING HATE KEYS TO DRAWING
BUT IF I CANT DO IT
EVERYONE HAS TO DO KEYS TO DRAWING AND WHAT IF I CANT DO IT?

>>4862211
>drawing on a phone would ruin your wrist
How so?
>buying a tablet that connects to a phone
For me it's more like, I have a drawing setup with a tablet at home but I have some commuting time in me schedule and I'd like to draw there instead of wasting time but I can't really whip out a block on the train since my coworkers might also use it and it would harm my reputation/prospects.

go FULL HOMELANDER ON THAT BITCH
KILL IT CUT IT KILL IT CUT IT SMASH IT
FUCK KEYS TO DRAWING

Orc

Now this is shizo posting.

>>4862224
drawabox.com

>>4862228
Basado

>>4862228
Yeah i KNOW i NEED it

If my end goal is painting, when should I start doing that for optimal results?

>>4862136
I REMEBER THE CHARACTERS I- I SWEAR!!!!
I JUST DONT REMEBER THEIR NAMES
I HAVEN'T WATCHED ANIME IN OVER 4 YEARS

how do i start using the fundies i've learned to start making cartoons again?
everytime i draw my characters with intention to make them "toonier" i instinctively make the proportions closer to more "realistic" for a lack of a better word

i.e i want to make the characters have big heads and small bodies, i make the heads more proportionate to the bodies

>>4862253
when you learn construction, perspective, anatomy/background depending on your focus, value

>>4862253
painting is really just shading with extra steps. You need solid drawing skills to move into painting.

how to do fishnets? as a texture i mean

don't know where to go from here

thots?

>>4862314
Holy shit it's almost as if one could study fundamental perspective like everyone says and then get to draw rad as fuck dinosaurs.

These are righteous anon.

>>4862282
Make interlaced S’s not C’s then ink the crosses instead of the entire netting to make them look super tight and delicious

Latest drawing, I have no idea how to proceed from here.
Mistakes would be not doing enough loomis, happy with the gesture but yeah, if I were to continue, failure. I made the face too narrow, it should be an easy fix since all lines are very light but I don't know if it's worth it.

>>4862348
>I have no idea how to proceed from here
>Mistakes would be not doing enough loomis

What's wrong with this picture? How can I do better?

I'm applying to a few art schools and I think I'm gonna put this in my portfolio. I would ask for a professionals opinion but I have no money. :(

Please give me your honest opinion.

>>4862362
for an art school application this is fine

Am i going to make it?

FUCK KEYS TO DRAWING BTW
FUCKING SHITTY BOOK
I STILL CANT DO A TONAL BAR
AND THAT PIECE OF SHIT PHOTO
FUCK FUCK FUCK KEYS TO DRAWING
HOMELANDER THAT SHIT
>>4862358
I know I know.

>>4860810
LOL it's fucked. Don't tell me Scott Robertson. I know the perspective is off. I made this while on a train ffs.

>>4862338
>Make interlaced S’s not C’s then ink the crosses instead of the entire netting to make them look
WHAT?

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK KEYS TO DRAWING
I TRY TO DO IT RIGHT YET I KEEP FAILING, I KEEP CHECKING OUT THE BLOGS OF OTHERS ONLY TO DISCOVER THAT THEY ARE BETTER THAN ME?

Why my loomis looks weird?

>>4862371
Mmmmaaaayyyybbbbbeeeeeeeeeee

>>4862402
your jaw and skull arent facing the same direction

>>4862376
>>4862398
Can you please keep it in check?
From what you posted it seems you're not terrible. Maybe keys to drawing just isn't the right book for you right now? Maybe read Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, it's really intuitive and helped me a lot. You could also just stop working on books for a bit to calm down and just do some drawings you want to do and continue after that.

>>4862362
Look pretty cool to me

Maybe fix the calfs and cankles on the left chick

>>4862402
They look flat (but otherwise good). Keep fucking going, my early ones were just like this.

any criticism welcome!
im horrible at drawing metal

>>4862391
Maybe this helps

>>4862442
I'm not sure what I'm looking at...

how do I know when my facial structure is good enough to focus on shading

>>4862426
omg thank you so much for the feedback.

>>4862469
not how art works. if you need permission to draw anything you arent cut out for it

>>4862442
Assignment:
Explain the artist's intent as he made this piece. What does the red blob represent?

Jokes aside, it looks nice from a purely "modern art" perspective, though perhaps the composition is a bit off detail wise. There's so much to unload in the thing that you can barely perceive the image as a whole. Unless that's the intent of course.
I could see this sell for $14.000.000 with some touches (of minors)

>>4861924
https://www.deviantart.com/dctb/art/Annie-Chan-579680748

>>4862489
Slut!

>>4862458
thanks a lot anon

>>4862489
that's a copy not a reference

>>4862514
Not him but what even is the difference? You only copy parts from a reference? Or is it about copying the lines instead of copying the pose?

>>4861430
come home pls daddy

>>4862458
ooooooh! nice tip!

crit me pls i always get ignored :(

>>4862613
No neck ed next.

>>4862613
Its too stiff. You focused on colors and rendering but you completely ignored the gesture of the pose, the tilt of the head shoulders and hips. You made her stiff as a board and with no neck because you put her head upright but still at shoulder level. Get your gesture shit in order in your sketch phase.

>>4862348
I've failed again, from now on I wont draw for fun and only practice
>>4862405
but if i cant do it then it means theres something wrong with me, that im inferior to others

>>4860810
What is draw a box really for? Exercises that
fill in the time when you aren't actually drawing? or a gauntlet of tasks that must be completed before you draw what you actually want to draw. Like some kind of fake drawing licence?

>>4862544
"copy" can mean a lot of things, i just separate it into 3 groups

>trace study - tracing over it to feel and emulate the artists linework
>heavy reference - trying to reproduce the exact image, either just by observation or starting with the construction and building off it
>reference - using an image with a goal to fulfill something other than a full reproduction, like using a certain gesture, perspective or fabric formula

this opinion is apparently taboo here, but all 3 are perfectly fine for learning. you can even claim heavily referenced material as your own work as long as you can prove you didn't trace and you at least cite the original artist.

>>4862644
Its supposed to be an into to perspective for beginners, though I find some of the exercises to be really excessive and too time consuming. Not to mention hes teaching perspective sketching first and ignores measuring in perspective which should be the other way around. I honestly can't recommend it to anyone, too many issues.

>>4862659
cool thanks!

>>4862640
the form is great, the only thing glaryingly wrong is the calve and under the thigh, maybe the collar's abrupt hatching too

you're able to capture hair and fabric very well, it took me several months of studying before i understood hair, and fabric still confuses me from imagination

>>4862662
this is the reference
>maybe the collar's abrupt hatching too
that's peak lazy, mediocre as fuck

>>4862624
lmao
>>4862628
thanks for the crit, is this any improvement? i'll make sure to focus on the gesture more in the next ones. anything else that stands out?

>>4862624
lmao
>>4862628
thanks for the crit, is this any improvement? i'll make sure to focus on the gesture more in the next ones. anything else that stands out?.

>>4862662
thanks for the reply btw, it means a lot to me when i get feedback

>>4862681
Yeah that looks better than before. Definitely focus on that gesture, it'll make your work look so much better. Oh also a good study on skull structure and musculature would do you some good.

imagination work doodles

>>4862659
>Its supposed to be an into to perspective for beginners
what? how the hell do I learn construction then?

>>4860810
hey weird question but does anyone draw with a mouse instead of a tablet? I'm not a total poorfag, and I do have a tablet - I'm just curious. I made pic related just for fun a couple days ago, it's not really good or anything I just doodled in paint. But I used my mouse, and I felt more comfortable with my strokes and was more or less accurate with what I wanted to do mentally if that makes sense. I understand it's important to build muscle memory and shit and there's advantages with a pen but using a mouse just feels super comfortable and easy for me. I need to actually put this to the test and try to build something from the ground up but I was just wondering what anyone else my thing or have experienced.

>>4862681
Move her left foot further back.

>>4862715
>anyone else my thing
anyone else MIGHT THINK
I'm not even phone posting, I think I just had a stroke

>>4862681
Tiddies too big. Not on top of ribcage. No neck ed at first, now it is long neck bro

this faggot said tiddies too big lmao

>>4862699
don't get into the habit of drawing ugly faces just because they are easier to draw

>>4862737
eye of the beholder, but thank you though
(please pyw by the way if you don't mind)

>>4862681
The neck is still wrong. You have it positioned far back, like she has her head back. The weird thing is, the neck is obvious in it's placement in the reference, but you still don't see it.

You're also not measuring enough, because the left shoulder is compressed, and it it should be higher up Draw a line across her chest across the collar bone, hers is a line at an angle, higher on the right, yours goes straight across. You have the angle of her hips wrong too. One of the first things you should be looking at is how the hips are, juxtapozed against the shoulders, because that's crucial in poses. Her hips are cocked, but you failed to indicate that (the shape of the cut of the unitard around her thigh would help a lot giving a visual cue what's going on. Same fo the strap on her right shoulder - you have it curving back, when it's flat and straight on her shoulder. These kinds of details matter. )

Put your drawing over the reference at 50% opacity. See where it lines up, and doesn't.

And, speaking of proportions, the eyes are way too big. MEASURE. Her face is also wider, and the hair on the right hangs straight down, away from the face, and further back. In the photo you can see the contour of her face past the eyes. The hair is a complete cop out - put as much work into accurately capturing at least the contour. Look at the SHAPE of the shadow of her jaw, shoulder, and hair. That's a basic shape that if you refine, especially the curve along her neck, you'll capture that more accurately.

Those knees... MEASURE. Look at positive space (the body) and negative space (the space around her). The white space in between her thighs is something you can use.

It's not a bad attempt, regardless, but you're at the point where you really need to drill down into measuring and looking more closely at all of the landmarks, negative and positive space, and proportions. and not take shortcuts with things like hair, hands and eyes.

>>4862699
2nd looks like abe kek,

Doing more shading and lighting exercises, this time with an irregular shape. Lighting source is supposed to be top left. Will be doing top right, and from the bottom, next. Critique?

>>4862754
Way more detail than I felt like going into for the critique but 100% this

>>4862770
Who is that

>>4862786
shinzo abe, Former prime minister of Japan.

>>4862699
look at these three stooges ass

>>4862741
big nose and small eyes isn't conducive to creating an attractive face, male or female

>>4860825
Gonna Draw 250 loomis heads

>>4862812
>anime
say no more lol

anything similar to the sticky (or just advice in general) that can teach me about backgrounds, and how to place figures interacting in that background? is learning perspective enough? or is there any special books for that? the sticky seems to focus mostly on figures and characters.

>>4862822
Wrong. I'm not trying to shit on you, just trying to make sure you don't follow any bad habits like being unaware of your own flaws.
>>4862741
>pyw
Whatever. This won't prove anything, as I am focusing on another facet of art like colour and value. Not posting my finished stuff.

>>4862831
............

>>4862822

>>4862831 is not who you were replying too, here's my work, i'm not the best, but just taking some observations from habits that i ran into before

>>4862837
lmao

I feel like now that I'm actually learning the fundamentals that I don't really have the right to draw for fun anymore. I'm not good enough to actually apply them, but now I'm aware they exist and I don't want to draw anything without them

>>4862839
LMFAO

>>4862845
I know that feel. It just doesn't feel right until every aspect of the drawing can be done at a competent level.

>>4861866
>>4861870
It could also be mixed or they just used rulers for the straight lines. There certainly have been some digital cleanup of course. But clean lines are not enough to tell you if it was done digitally or not - case in point Tradd Moore.

>>4862058
>and then we'd need to find a way to replicate wanted knowledge into another's brain without removing their own personality
And then it all will be for nothing cause your body and muscles are different so you will need to redo all the muscle memory stuff from scratch while fighting against the ingrained knowledge you have gained.

>>4862715
There are some crazy people who draw with a mouse. But in the long run it's bad for your hand.

>>4862845
>>4862859
start being the artist YOU want to be, not the artist thats "good"

>>4862839
You should take your own advice holy shit

>>4859625

>>4862891

>>4860816
Joke on you, I'm a man and I'll fap to your drawing.

So I need a daily routine, as a proper /beg/ besides loomis and drawabox what should I fit in there? What amount of drawings or pages even per day?

>>4862890

>can't take good criticism

>>4862489
Don't think it was this one, the artist i copied from had big bold shading. One of the reason I'm looking for the artist.
Possibly they copied from a reference too.

>>4862900
Bro don't force it

>>4862681
>>4862754
don't change the eyes

>>4862900
>What amount of drawings or pages even per day?
Uh... seven? Yeah, seven.
You'll be a pro in no time.

Seven.

Trying (fake) leaf gold for the first time. Shouldn't it look smoother? Or is it so bumpy because of the paper structure?

>>4862839
do you have any other works?

>>4862899
i actually kinda dont mind that...

>>4863035
Stop being black and gay.

>>4863037
wow it worked

>>4863044
welcome to the human race friend

Forgive me, Loomis, but I must go all out...

>>4863044
Welcome home, my child.

>>4863055
...JUST THIS ONCE
Yeah this IS an action pose but I was really feeling the form and wanted to fully render a nude body for a change. Such a shame that I can't post it on social media since I draw for all ages

>>4863055
>>4863065
cringe

>>4863105
tiddies

>>4862466
not the poster, but its a survivor from the game Risk of Rain.

>>4862442
i love it.

Why do you draw so many white guys?

>>4863172
Are you some kind of negro?

>>4862883
What if I want to be the good artist

>>4863172

what about this anon? >>4863085

>>4862776
use hard round brush next

>>4863065
Nice

>>4861804
Looks like her right (on our left) leg isn't in plane with the other leg, which I am assuming is resting on the ground.

>>4860816
>>4860880
>>4860918
>>4861817
>>4862371
>>4862387
>>4862681
None of these is /beg/, why did intoids take over the thread?

>>4862776
Stop using airbrush

>>4863280
there is no /int/

>>4863280
you're gonna be here a while buddy

>>4863295
I've been here for 9 months now

>>4863297
I've been here for 17 years, come October.

>>4862826
nice pek

>>4863280
my first 'not beg'.
amazing.

posting in the gmi thread so i can make it

>>4862891
>>4862893
what pencil are you using?

>>4863357
Gregorian sidewinders. Get the 7C ones, with the round tip.

>>4863304
pyw

>>4863399

>>4863411
i dont see many naked male bodies, is this normal?

>>4863531
yes

>>4863301
looks awesome

>>4863176
theres a lot of kinds of goods

how to get this?

>>4863571
by not skipping the 20-30 pages before it

my sketch from today. i tried to follow fzd's process in his sketching 101 video.

>>4863598
100% opacity

>>4863571
copy it over and over

>>4863603
I dont get what im doing on it
currently using the one found before and it's pretty sweet so what's the upgrade?

>>4863571
>>4863590
>>4863603
how to make it look 3d? i can sort of place things where they should be but i cant make it look 3d

>>4863630
by not skipping the 2-30 pages before it

>>4863632
i dont know which lines should i leave implied and which ones to mark

how would you go around protecting your head if you were a fungi man? got a lot of ideas for today, this was made yesterday in like 20 min

>>4863604
Hip is too small nose is mashed, nice dick, though it could hang a bit more. Also nice cat.

>>4863643
Realistically? With spike going outwards to deter stabbing.

>>4863571
Forget it, loomis is a meme and you will always get non-answers like this >>4863590 >>4863603

>>4863602
hm ok. fzd mentioned that he uses 30% opacity so i tried that. next time i’ll use fill opacity

Here's my history with art. Will post drawing timeline as well.
Full text for a single post is too long, so I'll try cramming it all with two or three posts.

>(October, November?) 2012, age 11; first dabble in art is copying a frame of Ataru Moroboshi from Urusei Yatsura episode 2. Lines when drawing after rough and concrete.
>(March 2013, age 11; Older brother introduces me to Macromedia Flash 8 and guides me through the basic process of animation; he helps me make a test cartoon of a stick figure being decapitated by a bird.
>Dabble with Flash once more to make shitty 2 second "animations" (basic shapes, frantic lines) and upload them to Newgrounds, only for the submissions to get immediately BLAMed.
>From early 2013 to May 2014, I would occasionally draw characters from anime I had seen due to the fun of creations derived from things I enjoyed.
>Passion wanes, drawing stops.
>December 2016, age 15: Start watching Miss Dynamite on Newgrounds and eventually find a timelapse video of the creator, Sirkowski, sketching the characters Eva and Blackie in Photoshop, showing him start with the basic shape outlines, using references for a gun in the illustration and eventually completing the final image.
>Think the process is cool, passion for drawing is rejuvenated
>2017 rolls around, consider starting to draw as a New Years Resolution; doesn't happen.
>Like the idea of drawing but don't act upon it, focuses creative energy on video editing shitposts
>August 7, 2018, age 16: desire to draw kicks in once more after finding /loomis/ on 8ch, download the resource folder full of tutorials, books, etc.
>September 2018; consider starting the Draw A Box exercises, don't start

SEE NEXT POST FOR CONTINUATION

>>4863656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaH_WlD_rP4&t=695s

+ the second part

>>4863660
>February 2019, age 17; Copying other anime artists pictures and try apply basic construction ("just draw simple shapes lmao," no lines needed to indicate where ball is facing) to these drawings.
>Occasionally glance at the first pages of Fun With A Pencil and and Keys To Drawing and don't proceed further
>June to August 2019, copy anime characters with no fundies learned
>August 2019, age 17; sketch the first few examples from Loomis then give up because I wanted to draw anime shit
One of my classes for this school year was Art I; I didn't like the idea of being forced to draw a specific thing, plus I preferred drawing with pencils as opposed to using paints. It was an okay experience. I've began using block erasers when drawing as a habit from that class.
>February 2020; get a sketchbook and start sketching from art that I think look cool
>Late August 2020, age 19; decide to give Loomis another shot so I can learn the fundamentals required to later draw the things I want
Whenever I look at the homepage submissions on Newgrounds with great quality created by artists/animators in their early-mid 20s, I can't help but think "what could have been" in an alternate timeline where I consistently drew from 2013 onwards with a further exploration of Flash, like "I would have so much skill by now if I stuck with it."

Is it not too late for me to "make it" if I start now at age 19 and grind fundies/draw for a specific amount of time each day consistently? Due to my final year of high school being online, I have a lot more free time on my hands. Art III is also an elective of mine this year, with weekly assignments where students draw from still objects with shadows; the experience from that could come in handy.
I've heard some anons recommend dedicating three hours a day for drawing sessions but for now I suppose I'll start small with one hour then slowly stretch it out as I progress further.

>>4863654
You don't draw.

@4863664
@4863660
I promise you no one cares

>>4863654
Not at all, I'm a /beg/ but I'm liking loomis and while I'm not doing 3d with my constructions, everything is more accurate now.
>>4863632
Alright I'll read it again

>>4863654
i think it's pretty obvious the answer, just follow the book instead of being a retard

>>4863643
That’s not /beg/, go to the general draw threads.

>>4863675
that's not me

>>4863664
what anime were you watching on sep 12? the main character looks hideous

>>4863693
September 12 is just Loomis heads.

>>4863693
lmao

Welp, do i have any chance, /beg/?

>>4863661
so basically use 100% opacity hard round size jitter brush? did i miss anything

>>4863703
Looks like heavy reference use. If not very nice pose and perspective.

>>4863676
GOT THE PASS GOT THE PASS GOT THE PASS

i should really spend more time on pieces rather than just sketching, not a face but idgaf

>>4863737
been waiting for you, how to make heads look 3d?

>>4863739
just study planes anon and make sure your features wrap around the face, my pictures face is flat af as i was focused on more on the outift, do marco buccis understating the planes of the head course and study the asaro head and of course study from life/reference

Practicing drawing small objects on my desk. I've been setting a 30 minute timer so I stop being such an indecisive shitter and actually get things done. This was an exercise in lrnin2light and edges, how's it going lads?

>>4863660
>>4863664
do you see anybody else posting their shitty zoomer life stories? what makes you think yours is important? maybe you should start a blog instead of learning to draw

>>4863728
Good luck anon, I hope you succeed out there.

>>4863283
Why is airbrush bad? Thanks for commenting.

>>4863763
Looks nice on the thumbnail but the detail is lacking.

>>4863571

>>4863969
Thanks, so basically perspective, will do the 250 boxes then.

New thread
>>4863975
>>4863975
>>4863975

>>4860810
Unfinished

>>4862839
pretty good. work on them lines doe

>>4862050
most people here seems to have a really bad work ethics and/or mental health problems tho

>>4862172
imo the worse thing is the shape of the arms and hands, it is not anatomically correct nor appealing

>>4862371
we all gonna make it!!

bros, how do i get over my petty envy of 17 year olds who casually paint riot splash art level shit, i'm just 23 and i already feel like a fossil who wasted my life

why is it harder to draw circles in tablet?

>>4863913
everything becomes muddy and the shading no longer conveys the 3d form

There's something screwy going on with my anatomy drawing. Are the breasts too high? Is the perspective just off? Is the head too big for the body? Or are some of my other proportions off?

new thread >>4865423

new thread >>4865423

new thread >>4865423

>>4862314
Very nice subject to making your fundies fun. Real solid studies, themselves. Very clean.

>>4865187
Fixing the breasts might help, they look more like pecs in this, it should help if they looked like they were hanging more.