/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4839275
yeah you're just projecting

>>4839275
Yes, you are. I don't give a fuck about getting validation.

>>4839275
>just draw
>never post work
>no web presence anywhere besides shitposting on /ic/ during manic episodes

when i was a kid i'd just throw away my drawings & art projects when they were done. idk if that's weird

>>4839275
Stop with this furry shit idiot, back to /trash/ fucking freaks.

>>4839290
this, probably like 80% of this fucking board never even posts any drawings anywhere

>>4839290
>>4839299
>mfw this is all true of me

I agree 100%. Selfish art isn't good art.

>>4839290
this.
>make a twitter to dump all my shitty artwork/studies as a backlog
>get 2.5k followers in a month
>delete the twitter

>>4839302
and me

>>4839299
i just like drawing and talking to people about art and it's hard to find people who want to do that irl.
it feels kind of pointless to even pyw, it'd just get ignored anyway

>>4839275
I disagree, yesterday only I was watching an amazing artist on twitch, he drew something so good effortlessly, it was two popular character together in one composition but he moved on to draw something else. why the fuck didn't he just render it and post in on social media, he could have gained a lot of retweet. maybe he just like drawing?
But you've described me. I don't like drawing, I don't like the process, I only like the game which is the likes the retweet, the attention

OP here, I dont post my work anywhere either, but I think it's because im shit.

But i feel guilty for like feeling pleasure when someone sees me drawing and praises me, feels fuckin dirty idk

When I got into drawing (7th grade) I would draw pokemans from out of the game manuals and stuff I saw on the net. I didn't share with anyone, not even my brothers except the one time I drew a pokemon thing for my brother.

I guess he showed his friends at school and they wanted to buy my art for like .50 cents per drawing. I was dumbfounded why anyone would want literal copies of pokemon drawings but whatever--point is I didn't do it for attention at first, but from the comfort of my bedroom behind closed doors. Only when I found out there is a demand = money thing did I care for attention. It really became attention the more I looked online for art communities and found CA.org in 2007. That's when attention became an issue (when I realized the world was competition).

>>4839275
Yes, most are like this.
Art is easy to access and that's why we have so many insecure attention starved faggots roaming the arts.
With the addition of social media you get the current deadly combination.
Art is dead. We live in a society.
God, i wish i could just finally get isekai'ed.

>>4839307
>>4839302
is this like a mental illness or something? i get really uncomfortable trying to explain it to real people because it sounds fucking psycho

>>4839338
Naw, it's pretty normal. Sometimes you just need an outlet, a place to make what you're doing public. Then when you're done with it, you're done with it.

>>4839299
>>4839290
>>4839312
I don't remember posting this

>>4839275
>i might be projecting kek
You certainly are.
I guess it's hard for a furry coomer to grasp the concept of people wanting to tell stories and spread emotions because they genuinely just want to create something.

>>4839275
i see a nipple

>>4839275
projecting

i draw to get my waifu for free and without risking any jail time

>>4839275
who's the artist?
reverse google didn't turn up anything

>>4839359
nice catch, time to report

>>4839275
i didn't even read the entire post and i already knew you were projecting art is expression there are things we cant do through words so we draw, dance,write.

>>4839275
i'm superficial like that but i don't think you should generalize it for all people. different people like a lot of weird and boring shit, far more weird and boring than a creative and playful activity like drawing

>>4839275
>implying anyone sees my drawings
I only draw to get more competent at painting anyway.

>>4839307
blog?

>>4839275
then why do i draw in my personal sketchbook every day when im bored? purely for fun, i never show anyone and when im done with it i put it in the trash

>>4839380
based

Not my case, but I'm shit and mostly do fundies, maybe once I'm good and do stuff of my own I'll want to show it to other people.

>>4839275
I think I've posted 2 drawings on the internet in total out of thousands. Attention is nice, but the risk of criticism makes it a risky prospect.

>>4839275
Not drawing makes me feel dead inside.

>>4839275
You're definitely projecting but at the same time you're not wrong.

>>4839517
>>4839501
is this the split between autism/narcissism among drawfags?

>>4839521
it's a 3-way split between the different clusters of personality disorders

>>4839501
>>4839517
The duality of /ic/

>>4839525
Now we just need the crabs to come in.

>>4839409
It’s bullshit

>>4839275
You've never drawn for fun before? Never for yourself or some friends? Its not like your enslaved and forced to do art (unless your a twitter artist) have some fun for a change.

>t.furfag

>OP has never been invited to a drawpile

>>4839275
I am really bad about posting my work and go under a pseudonym. I literally hate posting or showing my work to anyone. It takes me a lot to do it.

>>4839275
S-sauce?

>>4839681
kikurage

>>4839275
I only draw to get boys to like me, even if I claim I draw "for myself"

>>4839726
based

>>4839275
Icecold take, there are people better than you that don't even show their art to anyone

>>4839315
What the hell this happened to me too, even the 50 cent pricepoint

>>4839960
Based female lonely and horny poster

>>4839275
I want attention to verify my work.
I mad something good.
Or that I think it's good.
But if nobody even pay attention to it, that's mean it's bad.
That also means that I'm wrong.

So, technically,
I don't want attention.
But I need it to prove that I did a good job.

>>4839992
That's the kind of thinking I got. While some validation is nice, I'd like to know if what I drew is at all interesting

>>4839275
I started drawing cause I loved it. I still do, but nowadays I mostly draw because it brings me money.
Win win.

>>4839977
How can you tell those people are better if they never post their work?

I create art and it helps me feel like i'm not not doing anything.

>>4839275
I'm at the stade, were i dont want anybody to see my artworks.
Maybe, one day, i could become an attention whore and make money with my pation.

Yes but I get little attention on twitter :(

>>4839275
Yeah, you are. It's all the way the opposite.
I kept drawing because I was a nerd and people didn't want to talk to me. So I spent the spare time doing it for fun.

>Not being creative sucks
>Having no money sucks
>Try to use creativity to get many money

>>4839726
Got a mega?

At school everyone telling us that we were good at drawing felt really fucking great, but like some hegel dialectics crap we cannot feel pleasure anymore from "lessers" we need to get praise from equals or above and that gets harder and harder as we progress in art

>>4841304
dialectic, tranny

>>4839275
Of course getting validation from others feels rewarding, but I think you should draw for your own satisfaction

>Going to art college sooon
>Every artist I've known over the years has a social media presence and has ended up fucking crazy down the line
>I don't like attention or social media but I like the idea of hanging around like-minded artists
>Except nearly every art person I've know over the years is huge bickering attentionwhore and bitches about anything slightly apolitical to the point your walking on eggshells around them
> I'm only entering art college to improve my art skills because I love making cool art and enjoy dabbling in all kinds of wacky media, and hope to (THIS TIME) make real friends who wont relentlessly antagonise me to make online accounts to post my work
>Except I fucking dont want to

I'm one fucking naiive retard aren't I

>>4839275
wrong take. what you're experiencing is confirmation bias. you see most of the artists around you as seeking validation and attention because they post their work for exactly those reasons. artists who do not need such things usually do not post and therefore are not on your radar.

>>4839306
Idiot

>>4841304
You are literally paying the school. So, of course they praise you, because you are just like a customer at a coffee bar.
Don't be retarded, they don't do that because you're good, only because you are their customers. That's why it's not easy to be praised outside of school, because you don't own praises from other people with your money anymore. Nobody have time for, or give a fuck about your art now, unless you are really good or worth money. This is the hard true about art schools.
You are not a child anymore.

>>4841418
just go to school and don’t make any serious friends anon. Keep everyone on an acquaintance level, be rude if you have to. Don’t waste your time.

>>4839275
You are certainly projecting. When I started drawing when I was like 8 i was weirded out when people looked at my art. there are many reasons for making art, and these reasons vary from person to person, and change over time.

>>4841418
Artfags are annoying as fuck. All my friends in uni ended up being programmers and mathfags.

>>4839275
The study of the visual world is not only an incredible feeling, it also evolves your cognition as you go along. The world of somebody who draws is a million times more beautiful and rich than the one who doesn't.
However, if you draw to be loved, I'm not gonna diss you.

I post my work online only to flex on retards that draw longer than me and still worse than me.

>>4841418
Similar to you but dodged the art college bullet because of retarded life choices.Got art friends which got my brains thrown into madness. Ever since i avoid people because i think of eggshells.Except 4chan, here everyone can be d/ic/ks to everyone.

>I'm a piece of shit so literally everyone who does what I do is a piece of shit

>>4839275
>No one really likes drawing for drawing
I’ve gone through phases where I’ve felt it to be a chore, I think that’s somewhat normal but are you really saying you don’t enjoy drawing as a past time in and of itself? Seriously?

Anyway OP you’re definitely projecting. I don’t share my art except privately with my direct friends and even then I don’t post everything. I used to have social media and had a decent following of several thousand but I just deleted it one day because I never cared for social media and had no attachment to the account. A few years ago I did really get buzz out of social media follows and likes but I kind of just got over it and grew out of it. It’s a lot of stress too and ultimately it never really made me feel good to be honest. Nowadays I’m just working privately on a portfolio and looking for industry work.

>>4839275
I enjoy the praise but feel a bit weirded out by it at the same time. I draw because I enjoy it and I enjoy improving at it.

you guys are beginning to get way too comfortable in here, isn't?

>>4841809
>make acquaintances with the same kinds of people who will forever pester you to pyw on social media so they can follow you and pretend to be your friend irl

that sounds like fucking hell.

IMO
We work for attention
No one really likes working for working
we just want praise
and attention
all people are humblebrag attention whores
i might be projecting kek
am i?

I like to draw stuff for myself but getting attention from my frens is kind of a nice addition :3c

>>4839275
idk i dont show my drawings pretty much at all
i draw because i enjoy doing that, thats why i dont grind

>>4839275
I don't show my art to anyone so yes you're projecting

>>4839591
>gets invited to drawpile
>is the worst artist in the session
Yeah that`s gonna be a no.

>>4839275
I almost never post my art, so no.

>>4839275
Pyw twitter escapee

>>4839275
Sure anon, now explain me why I don't post any of my drawings

>>4843932
If you were invited it's not because of how good you are at drawing, it's because they like you, dimwit.

>>4839290
Physical works are only a milestone, knowledge is more important

>>4839275
if i didn't like drawing i wouldve stopped years ago after years of drawing and still only getting 1 or 2 likes for hours of work

getting validation and attention feels good but it's not something i'm actively striving for or expecting.

>>4839290
Literally me. I’ve only ever posted on /ic/ but these days I don’t even post on here that often. Used to do the LAS thing a long time ago but I quit after the site shutdown.

>>4839275
Draw for fun
Post for attention

>>4839275
Nah. I crave interaction more than praise. Places like instagram feel kind of empty because there's rarely anything more than surface level interaction. I do have an insta mainly so I have some form of web presence to refer others to. Honestly I'm far more comfortable in smaller communities like here or in Pixiv Sketch where I can interact and shitpost with other people. Hell, I even frequent a shitty Android app called Draw Me because it gives me prompts to draw.
But in the absence of either interaction or attention I would still draw simply because it's a part of me. I'm constantly imagining things and drawing is my outlet of choice. Sometimes I will stop drawing for a while but I'll always come back again, because drawing brings me joy.

>>4839275
I have trouble with maintaining relationship with people because of my autism, so I draw to cope with the loneliness.

>>4844290
win win!

>>4842757
Imagine thinking the only way to see beauty and richness in the world is through art.
Consider a physicist (or really any scientist that deals with the nature world), or a philosopher for example.
In the case of just physical beauty, consider someone who studies light, or an astronomer.
I do agree with you that the eye of an artist is the sharpest for aesthetic beauty, but something about the way you worded that felt narrow-minded.

>>4845024
same.

>>4845024
>>4846983
;_;
i thought gitting gud enough would be a way to make friends but it just made it even harder to connect with people

>>4846988
suffering from succes

I started out like this but now I realize that art will never get you the attention you desire. The average person isn't going to look at your art for more than two seconds, and maybe give a like if they feel like putting out the effort.
Now I draw because nobody is putting out the kind of content I want to see anymore, and I can only live off the old stuff for so long. I want to make mystery/horror comics with cute girls in tragic situations, because there isn't enough to keep me satisfied

>>4839275
I haven't uploaded anything I've drawn for the last ~7 years to anywhere.
Though I intend to give social media another shot soon. Perhaps it will last this time.

>>4839290
Yeah same. These days I hold onto the good stuff because I know my friends will want them. They refuse to take it for free (even though I would literally just be trashing it anyway) so I normally get snacks or knick knacks out of it, sometimes things they don't want but I do which is always cool.

>>4839275
Source for artist?

>>4849034
Source was already posted you dumb fuck.

>>4850639
Does it look like I have time to browse this forum you fucking faggot

>>4839275
>am i?
IS THAT A FUCKING NIPPLE ON A FURRY!?!? WHY THE FUCK NO MODS TOOK ACTION YET??? FUCKING CHRIST GO TO FUCKING /FAG/ DEGENERATE

>>4839286
/thread

>>4850765
A nipple isn't porn you retard

>>4852226
soft porn is still porn