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i sometimes cannot understand how long the ribcage is supposed to be

>> No.4832086

4 craniums down
hers is 4 craniums down
problem solved

>> No.4832094
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4832094

>>4832082
Much longer than you think it is.

But that's not important, only the external shapes matter for an artist.

>> No.4832102
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>>4832094
But as a matter of fact you can't actually see the ribcage directly on any people worth drawing.

The structure under the tits is oblique muscules interseting with serratus, not the actual ribs under the skin.

>> No.4832108
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4832108

>>4832102

>> No.4832110

>>4832086
The pelvis is 4th head down so it would be 2-3 heads tall, no?

>> No.4832131

>>4832110
Proportions literally don't exist in the real world,

The structure is what matters, but trying to measure shit in numbers and craniums is a brand of a retard.

>> No.4832136

>>4832082
>tfw no harry pusy gf

AAAAAAAHHH AAAAAAAHHH AAAAAAAHHH GIVE NOW NOW NOW

>> No.4832147

>>4832086
>>4832110
>heads
The lowest attached rib is 1 hand-length from the base of the sternum. The sternum is also about 1 hand-length from the pit of the neck.

>> No.4832150

>>4832131
I know that they don't, but if you are going to be using them then might as well use them correctly. Why would be the ribcage be 4 heads long? It doesn't account for the head or the pelvis.

>> No.4832175

>>4832102
You literally see her ribcage

>> No.4832178

>>4832175
>You literally see her ribcage
It's actually not.

>> No.4832183

>>4832147
>>4832110
head =/= cranium
hand ~= cranium

>> No.4832208

>>4832183
Why even mention the cranium and not the head? Why make it even harder for OP?

>> No.4832219
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>>4832108
nice girl

>> No.4832220

>>4832102
>Great toned body ruined by that piercing
Women are so fucking stupid.

>> No.4832224

>>4832208
how is it harder? the cranium’s size can be seen m basically any angle, the head length not s

>> No.4832229

>>4832178
You can easily spot the costal margin and several plane breaks caused by the forms of the ribcage and soft tissues interfacing. The ribcage is the foundation for the upper torso after all.

>> No.4832230

>>4832224
Really?
I have no fucking idea about the height of the cranium, it's not an external shape you can see with your naked eye

>> No.4832236

sometimes i look at a girls body and i think "if i drew you exactly how you are, people would say my anatomy is fucked and i need to study more"

>> No.4832237

>>4832082
It's different on every person. Some woman have compressed torsos, some are all torso. If you're making it up, just make it pleasing, and plausible. General ratios and ballpark, that kind of thing. A short person will have a compressed torso, taller and skinny people tend to have elongated.

>> No.4832238
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4832238

>>4832229
>the rib cage and soft tissues interfacing
Serratus and internal oblique are two major muscles that interlock and make this saw tooth shape, but as a matter of fact what you see isn't the bone, it's a muscle shape.

>> No.4832240

>>4832224
Because someone who is beginner can just see the head/face. The only other way would be to see the back of someone's head if they have super short hair or bald.

>> No.4832241

>>4832110
That's a general purposes, ball park ratio. It works fine for constructing from imagination, but each body type will be slightly different.

>> No.4832248

>>4832240
you can see the cranium from any angle that you can see the head from
>he’s a beginner
so he should take the 2 minutes to learn what a cranium is

>> No.4832285
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4832285

>>4832241
>but each body type will be slightly different
this, if you are looking at ref pics and wondering why things don't look like they 'should'

>> No.4832290

>>4832285
This is why I don't find niggers attractive. Fking monkey proportions.

>> No.4832291

>>4832082
hot

>> No.4832293

>>4832285
Wow this is a great image for representing the concept, thank you for posting it

>> No.4832297

>>4832082
I want to see that bush poking out of some loose underwear

>> No.4832300

>>4832285
God, I want to rub them against each other

>> No.4832303

>>4832285
Both are made for black cock

>> No.4832306

>>4832303
*by

>> No.4832309

>>4832285
I'm hornnnyyyyyyyy ahhhhhhhhhh
KAME HAME HAAAAAAA

>> No.4832344

>>4832290
People who say things like this are usually pretty butt ugly themselves otherwise they wouldn't be projecting this hard.

>> No.4832345

>>4832344
surprised that you didnt say it then

>> No.4832346
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4832346

>>4832344
>projection!!! Projection!!! Misogyny!!!! Racist!!!!

>> No.4832352

>>4832346
>bringing up misogyny and racism out of nowhere
seems like anon struck a nerve

>> No.4832360

>>4832082
>look her up
goddamn even if I make sakimichan bucks, i'm never hiring her.

>> No.4832366

>>4832346
Dilate some more tranny

>> No.4832368

>>4832102
>no pusy hair

gross

>> No.4832371

>>4832102
who is this?

>> No.4832378

>>4832136
Look, you can get a hairy gf pussy the hard way or the easy way. The easy way is to get a hobo gf who looks like she’s methed up most of the time. The hard way is to kidnap a cutie gf and keep her in your basement without any type of shaving or cutting implements so her pubes and armpits grow out nice and long.
You’re welcome

>> No.4832392

>>4832290
Luckily no one will fuck you anyway with that attitude

>> No.4832406

I need to go on a diet

>> No.4832414

>>4832392
Having preferences makes you unfuckable ok

>> No.4832436

>>4832414
Calling black people niggers and saying they have monkey proportions in an art thread about ribcages is what makes you unfuckable dipshit

>> No.4832493

>>4832102
"people worth drawing" what kind of subject standard is that?

>> No.4832502
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4832502

>>4832285
reminds me of these two

>> No.4832575

>>4832102
that's a cool body shape, where can I get more of this content

>> No.4832613

>>4832082
Id get up in her rib cage if you know what I mean.

>> No.4832653

>>4832290
>monkey
dunno what monkeys youre looking at. theyre not known for their long legs.

>> No.4832704

>>4832285
this is weird, the left feels like the torso is too small, the right feels like its too big and the legs are too small. I guess traditional proportions aren't that necessary.

>> No.4832713

>>4832704
Nah. It's just proof loomis is unreliable bullshit

>> No.4832734

>>4832147
Hands and heads are pretty much the same size?
At least mine are.

>> No.4832741

>>4832704
It’s because Loomis believe in the future of the white race and didn’t foresee the shitshow we live in now.

>> No.4833085

>>4832704
They are outliers with extreme proportions

>> No.4833104

>>4832704
He calls them ideal proportions for a reason.

>> No.4833126

>>4832290
This is the literal opposite of monkey proportions... Monkey have generally very short stumpy legs and are all torso.

>> No.4833129

>>4832704
Why do you think Loomis and other construction methods are set in stone ? The 4/4 torso/leg head long and yadi yada is just a referential. Use it but lower that pelvis if you want to show more abs etc ...

Hell most koreans do 2/3 torso/leg women and get away with it.

>> No.4833143

>>4832704
draw yours somewhere in between then

>> No.4833158

>>4833126
Asians usually edge towards those proportions.

>> No.4833183

>>4832238
*external oblique, You see both muscle and bony landmarks in the video above.

>> No.4833703

>>4832082
what a beautiful woman!

>> No.4833743

>>4832220
>he doesn't find navel piercings hot
ngmi

>> No.4833754

>>4832102
I inquire the source

>> No.4833777

>>4832082
dont look at photos that were taken on a short lens to learn this, long lens only

>> No.4833788

>>4832285
>those long ass legs
so that's why blacks run faster huh

>> No.4833866

>>4832290
Longer legs are preferable you hob goblin

>> No.4833872

>>4832741
She is as white as English incest royalty though

>> No.4833927

>>4832704
>taking tutorials as the WORD OF GOD
anon youre supposed to learn not fucking memorize everything

>> No.4833934

>>4832290
Whiteys are closer to monkeys though.

>> No.4834054

>>4832094
>only the external shapes matter
you take that back you mongaloid copying machine, form is everything

>> No.4834072

>>4834054
form is the outer shape, you /beg/ retard

>> No.4834073

>>4834054
To be fair I think he's referring to the bony landmarks on the skin, not contours

>> No.4834134

>>4832082
god i hate this smelly stuck up whore

>> No.4834139

>>4834134
>makes more money in a day than you do in a month

I’m sure she feels bad about that

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4834169

>>4832285

>> No.4834190

>>4834169
Such improvement

>> No.4834398

>>4832290
rent free you fucking retard, christ.

>> No.4834410

>>4832704
Proportions are to get a lay in as they're ideal and don't change. When you start getting closer to a likeness, you adjust them as need be. They're an armature for the final work and you can change them at any time. They exist to make starting a drawing easier.

This shit pisses me off when they say they hate "Loomis" or whatever construction. It doesn't mean every body has to be drawn that way. It's a baseline tool for YOU.

>> No.4834417

>>4832346
No one even brought up misogyny you wojack posting mongrel.

>> No.4834418

>>4832293
Agreed this picture is crazy. I guess you don’t usually notice because reference models tend to be standing alone

>> No.4834424 [DELETED] 
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Propaganda Art Thread

When Emma Watson has to cross a sea of wrinkled penises and cross her fingers in order to get to dhe golden statue, dhen her experience will seep into her art and what she does and it/s going to distort dhe entire culture∵
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1x-mxZyrys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL8o7KY1f2o
Why I/m Breaking Up Widh Hollywood

>> No.4834425

>>4832290
its true. torso too short, legs too long. asians are the opposite and sometimes they look really boxy and dwarfish but sometimes it works. with black women, basically never.

>> No.4834433
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>>4832285
if i drew a woman with the proportions on the left every single person on ic would jump down my throat that her torso was too short her hips were too high.

i mean actually when i draw woman one key landmark for me that seperates women from men is that a woman's elbow fits at her waist line. black woman are built exactly like trannies. go look at a so-called trap and tell me his waist isn't higher than his elbows. and her pussy should be down by her hands.

omg what in the hell am i looking at. her femus is like 3 feet long by itself.

is this a typical black woman or is this soomeone with a chromosomal disorder?

>> No.4834444

>>4832082
Who is this? I must know for reference purposes

>> No.4834460

>>4832082
>that bush
ewwww

>> No.4834488

>>4834444
Liara Roux

>> No.4834489

>>4834460
That's what makes her hot, the arm pit hair also.

>> No.4834542

>>4834489
didn't even notice the pit hair fucking yikes

>> No.4834613

>>4834433
if you draw a woman with the proportions on the right every single person would jump down your throat that her legs were too short

Either way you'd be beaten down to cries of 'loomis' and 'ngmi'

>> No.4834654

>>4834542
>>4834460
Ngmi

>> No.4834670

>>4834489
No, that's what make her awful, get a fucking shaver, disgusting chimp.

>> No.4834754

>>4834398
so you're saying you're a monkey living rent free in his head?

>> No.4834759

>>4834169
>made the boobs bigger
based

>> No.4834867

>>4832220
>ruined
i dont think she worked out to impress you nigga

>> No.4834871

>>4834433
>one key landmark for me that seperates women from men is that a woman's elbow fits at her waist line
bruh wtf kinda weird ass landmarks do you use

>> No.4834896

>>4832285
Jesus, the black girl has ridiculously prominent shoulders, tall narrow hips and lanky arms like a guy.

>> No.4834942

>>4832285
Put the white bitch's torso on the black bitch's hips and legs and you got the classic superheroine proportions.

>> No.4834981

>>4834433
>black woman are built exactly like trannies. go look at a so-called trap and tell me his waist isn't higher than his elbows.
I'm a half black trap and my elbows are at my waist

>> No.4835037

>>4832290
long legs are not a race exclusive thing idiot, it's why some people are models and some are not

>> No.4835053

>>4832108
tfw no buff bodybuilding gf

>> No.4835068

>>4832102
>>4832178
>oblique muscules interseting with serratus, not the actual ribs under the skin.
lol
no it's the rigcage you fucking moron. do you even know where the serratus is?
the serratus is below and TO THE SIDE of the tits, what you see UNDER the tits is in fact the ribcage.
yes the obliques are there but what shows through on thin people is the ribcage.

>> No.4835076

>>4832102
Disgusting, I like seeing either bone or soft skin.

>> No.4835816

>>4834981
post boipussy

>> No.4836003
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4836003

where does ribcage end and hip bone start?

>> No.4836029

>>4832220
*men

>> No.4836040

>>4836003
Why does she cover her mouth? Is she wiping the hot fresh cum off her lips?

>> No.4836099

>>4832285
>tfw when you tell god he needs to grind his Loomis methods more!

>> No.4836113

>>4834169
man...I've really gotta stop drawing the collarbones pointing downwards!

>> No.4836118

>>4834896
>Just discovered that different ethnic grps/races have different proportions..

>> No.4836769

>>4836040
It would be extremely painful

>> No.4837212

>>4834398
>rent free
Of course, we're talking about niggers here.

>> No.4837300
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4837300

meh was good for practice

>> No.4837439

>>4832082
what do you find hard? i draw an oval and thats it,it doesn't look bad in my drawings

>> No.4837625
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4837625

Propaganda Art Thread

Dhere is something about “dual citizenship” and split tongues...
Death to Smoochy (Theatrical Trailer)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX81TTs2poI

>> No.4837657

>>4837300
Maybe if you are looking to practice distortions. If you are not then practicing this: >>4832285 would be more helpful.

>> No.4837821

>>4837657
Wasn’t trying to distort this is probably my 3rd attempt at drawing a figure let alone a nude
It coulda been worse besides getting proportion correct in anything seems difficult at this stage
Better feedback woulda helped oh well

>> No.4838860

>>4832290
I hate you for phrasing it like that, but I agree in that a lot of black people have proportions that just wig me out.

That said, when you find a nice black lady with good body proportions it's aces

>> No.4840202

>>4832082
It ends at the elbows. And the hands are always just past the pelvis around the top of the femur. Necks usually about 0.8 heads long. Shoulder width about 3 heads etc. etc. Theres loads of relationships with body proportions you just need to observe. it helps a lot with imagination drawing

>> No.4840212

>>4832344
>>4832392
>lol youll never get access to my axe wound with that attitude
Guys dont really use this insult tactic almost always girl.
Damn, there really are a lot of females on ic

>> No.4840321

>>4832220
>Pshh! Asymmetrical elbows? There's no way I am blessing her with my dick. No absolute way I could ever be seen hanging around with this monstruosity of a woman.

>> No.4840404

>>4832220
It's funny, I watched that wem three times and didn't notice the piercing until you mentionned it, faggot.

>> No.4840409

>>4832290
that's supposed to be representative of an attractive one too lmfao

>> No.4840410
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4840410

>>4832236
>"if i drew you exactly how you are, people would say my anatomy is fucked and i need to study more"
this

>> No.4840470

>>4840410
based pear

>> No.4842006

>>4840410
I refuse to believe this isn't a liquify edit