/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

sketch from imagination.
The more I look at it the more it looks fucked.

Still somewhat happy of the progress i've been making on girls. I've only drawn dudes all this time so it's nice to do something else

>>4824695
just draw their arms already for fucks sake
what's the point in doing a bust?

I know it's askew, but thoughts on how to improve this?

What am I doing wrong she looks ugly to me but I can't point out the issue help

>>4824718
fuck I forgot to resize sorry

OHHHHH LOOMIS OHHHHHH I JUST WANT TO DRAW OHHHHHH PLEASE BLESS ME WITH GAINS OHHHHH DESIRE TO DRAW

>>4824710
the point is i'm lazy

>>4824718
too many lines, makes her look old

>>4824714
You're already doing this a little bit, but try to think in terms of light and dark values rather than lines.

>>4824718
looks good to me, only issue is the style is a bit 'bitty' it feels like a lot of small things/line so makes it seem busy, have some nice fatter flowing lines, have confident strokes and line variation in weight

Bros, anyone knows how to get MagicPicker for Photoshop for free? I don't want to spend 20 dollars on that thing

Using up a skillshare free two months, I have a lot of deadtime at work where I can doodle and watch videos - can you guys recommend anything specific on there?

>>4824718
She doesn't look ugly to me but she looks like a hobbit.

hit me with some feedback lads

>>4824924
how so?

>>4824958
I'm just /beg/ myself but that left cheek looks off. Like too wide for the perspective.

>>4824710
He has an amputee fetish.

>>4824992
Individual facial features are slightly too big, eyes, nose and lips while her shoulders seem small. Which gives the impression of being a shorty but slightly different from normal human proportions.

>>4824993
youre right, the features should be turning more to accommodate the cheek size thanks

>>4825030
>>4824993
good eye anon

>>4824667
Question here, I read some people here draw on Photoshop. How does that work, I don't think they draw with a mouse? How does one draw on Photoshop?

>>4824993
I think you mean the right cheek?

>>4825049
With a tablet

>>4825220
The 3rd eye looks good, the right side of his face seems wonky but Im not good enough to explain specifics tho

Can copying other artists help you improve your own skills or no? Sometimes I'll see an image online I think looks cool and just mindlessly draw it

>>4825596
copying, no, taking inspiration from, yes

>>4825596
of course it can, you always want to be studying other artists, studying life, studying your own art, as long as you take these lessons and apply it to your own art in the future to help you grow as an artist

I made crab-chan, can you guys give some critic on it and what i should focus on studying?

What could I do to make this look better?

I felt compelled to illustrate this for some reason

am i getting better? i feel i am. been wanting to draw this since yesterday and finally did, took a while but i like it

Okay guys I just spent an unacceptable amount of time trying to draw celebi and I've come to the conclusion that I suck at drawing smooth curves. What's the trick to making a nice smooth curve because that's currently one of my biggest obstacles right now.

>>4824695
no strucutre under her skin. It feels like the rib cage and pelvis just got removed from her body. Also, what is that itty placement

>>4826041
If you can't use your whole arm with your tablet size, you could do the whole curve as one stroke until you get it right. (With a lot of stabilization)

>>4825933
I would say it looks pretty alright, but if you are trying to copy the character from hallow knight like in pic related then i'd say you forgot to add the horns which seem to be 2.3x the length of her face.

A few anatomy problems as well such as hand size, the arm that is behind her back, and her leg anatomy not being consistent at all

Would recommend just working on those aspects

>>4825933
Higher contrast, maybe a vignette. Id work on doing more interesting compositions the next time around and also adding more variety to the wrinkles on the clothes.

>>4826050
Tablet is a 15 inch which is as big as I can fit on my desk, so move my arm and not my hand? I'll give that a try tomorrow.

>>4824729
Ngmi

>>4825965
its actually kind of good. I am going to make a critique on the eyes however. You have to remember that the eye sockets in the skull do have depth as well. The eye on her right, aka the eye that is closest to the left side of the image should be slightly more in her skull instead of drawn as a symbol. Same thing with the lips, they are more on the symbol side. Also raise the mouth and nose to make it line up more accurately. Very well done however gmi

>>4826058
You can move both but for broader strokes use your arm more. It takes a really long time to get used to changing that up (at least in my experience), but it should give you more control eventually.

i lack motivation, /beg/. what to study?

>>4826063
I wasnt confident on the lips but thanks for telling me what's actually the mistake, as for the other eye, yeah very symbol drawn, lost a bunch of detail.
What should I study anon?

>>4826056
>>4826054
thanks anons will do!

>>4826069
backs

>>4826107
wasn't she a femnazi wannabe?

>>4826114
idk idc

>>4826117
if she was then at least fe: school had something interesting compared to most cliche shit they've been putting on their games

>>4826124
please focus on female backs

>>4826126
yeah, im talking about her back

how do you transition to color/paint? I have a decent grasp of values/form in greyscale and whatnot but literally know nothing about how to color and stuff

what have i done
my beautiful son im so sorry

>>4826158
painting is very, very difficult and one must meditate upon it a long long time

>>4826158
start with black and white, that way you wont have to learn color and painting technique all at the same time

The only thing stopping me is my lack of desire to watch anything more than 5 minutes long

>print out some straight line exercises
>every mark either curves or is so far off the correct angle and looks like shit
well i guess that explains why all my work is so sloppy, at least

>>4826244
I really hate videos.

>>4826069
Loomis

this was fun
my scanners garbage and fucked up the values big time

>>4825220
>>4825537
it just isn't symmetrical the cheekbone & right eye both look higher on the face, and to be real nitpicky the mouth is cartoony and doesn't follow the full length, or t least doesn't appear to
>>4826134
You should keep going! the base looks really cool so far but i'd be wary of the asymmetry on the left eye

>>4826159
I love this
>>4826426
There's a lot of potential energy between both figures and thats awesome. atm it still looks like theyre on the same plane but they're designs are interesting nonetheless. Sucks about your scanner, but at least youve got one

I know the hands are kinda fucked, but I had too much fun rendering couldn't help myself.

Did another based on that girl from evil within, made her face too narrow and ran with it

>>4826471
I thought this was belmont fanart before reading your text lol

now moving from that, you need to use shading to better descirbe the plains of the face. You almost got it but generally didnt describe form too accurately. Not to mention the symbol drawn eye on the left, and the brows which just make no sense at all. The nose also has no recognizable form.

Sorry if i sound like a dick here im just tired rn but ur gmi so dw

I drew this not too long ago. Anybody got any advice in how I can improve?

>>4826479
No, I know, I wasn't happy with it at all, too much of a disaster, lackluster drawing really. But thanks for the feedback

>>4826483
stop symbol drawing, get proportions right seriously this gives an uncanny valley feeling and finally, work on the jaw shape.

How dO I draw Circles?

>>4826568
first, start with a triangle... then add a rectangle, divide them both and find the remainder.

Work in progress, I'm trying to refine my style, any criticism would be super appreciated :)

>>4826577
this is what my circles look like..... help me.... please..... i'm begging you.........

>>4826107
Looks great you understand values rlly well :)) the only thing i can really see wrong is in some places you could really push some hard edges, because it looks a bit soft in general

The fuck am I doing? Tried using photo references but ended up awful.

>>4826582
I get that you're shitposting but i'll give my two cents on the issue as a /beg/

Easiest way to visualize a circle to me is by thinking of a circle as two symmetrical half-circles joined together.

So as long as you have good general symmetry for one side, you can use it to reference for the other side and draw until you get a symmetrical circle.

Alternatively, just use the shape or pen tool lol

In Peter Han’s dynamic sketching week 2, he talks about finding the center line for these organic forms but doesn’t really talk about what the significance of it is. Can anyone elaborate on it?

>>4826633
Didn't take his course, but cross contours help to define a form without rendering. Without the cross contour, the shapes look like random splotches, but with the cross contour, you can imagine these shapes in 3d and see them as round volumes.

>>4826661
I get the cross contour part, he specifically says to find the center line though. Because they’re random organic forms, the center line seems completely random. Actually as soon as I write this I am remembering he talked about how it helps with perspective. I think that’s it. Fuck.

Well, guess we had to fail today, I tried Keys section 2 and failed
help me /beg/ I can't seem to work with keys, I can't get that fucking book

I feel like crying over not getting this book, I can't

>>4826579
The neck looks kinda funky

>>4824732
>>4824784
>>4825006
Thanks for the help. I erased some of the lines and colored it. Does she look too orange? im working on the background atm

>>4825133
Ok, I got you, so no love for this. But Garfield is acceptable?

im confused a bit by the sphere, im going through marshalls perspective videos and practice problems, but im a bit lost on it

I get everything else, its Mostly just the top and bottom of the sphere that he indicated. He first drew the equator ellipse, but then How exactly do you find the top and bottom of the sphere when its tilted? Like what made marshall choose those points exactly as the top and bottom and not any red dot along that line?

drew some asses, thought they came out alright

I want to start posting my work and studies somewhere to catalogue my progress and possibly attention whore. What sites are good for that? Insta, DeviantArt, twitter, some other?

I’m trying to draw a heroic, slightly sexy orc (he’s a good guy) but instead he’s coming off more like a twink.

playing around with GIMP.

How do you draw the outmost shape of the thumb (the fully cyan form, not aqua or green)

>>4826771
Trying more piglike noses. Also, somebody please kill me because I just can’t sleep. I had a cafe at 7 pm. Is that what’s fucking me up? It’s 2:30 am!

>>4826823

Holy fuck, amazing job! You are great at this.

Some Gits stuff.
ink started running out on the right and i got frustrated and started slipping up on the details alot lol.

Trying to get a feel for anatomy and light before I jump into drawing posture from imagination because that still seems kinda daunting.

Is this 'study' type thing I did okay? I know the value range is closer to mid-tones than the original, but disregard that.

>>4826898
I’ve been on 4chan too long. I can’t read this as anything but disingenuous.

>>4826908
PUSH VALUES

>>4826936
What, like opposing gay marriage?

>>4826908

>>4826908

>>4826954
it's a fancy way of saying "higher contrast"

>>4827038
>>4826908

Is my phone camera just shitty or is there some secret to taking a proper photo of your art I don't know? I'm getting frustrated with how blurry my images are and how when I change the color or my lamp light my camera automatically reverts it back

>>4827051
wipe your lens

So do you guys like Garfield?

I ? just want to draw really cartoony characters, but i suck big gorilla dick. And i can only draw at like 3 angles, which is front, profile, and 1/3.
Do i need to draw more anatomically correct figures as practice to improve?

>>4827066
Image sideways for some stupid reason. Have no idea how to fix it. Sorry, heres a second pic.

>>4826732
Pls dont have a dick pls dont have a dick

>>4824667
opinions?

>>4827076
It's rather misshapen

>>4827079
Yea I can tell this is my first try though with brent eviston's method. Gonna post the other 2 tries later

Ive been working on my digital painting

>>4824718
To me looks good,but maybe its the right eye,try making it a bit smaller.

>>4826443
Thanks I like your vilppu snake(?) lady

How can i train drawing a complete body? From the feet to the top of the head.
I practiced body and head separately and now i cant attach them together without making a too long neck,or a disproportionate head or fucking everything up.

>>4827108
practice more, dumbass

>>4827108
Draw a few busts with heads

>>4826107
Okay, so how do you figure which muscles show through on the back? I'm doing studies but most of the backs I'm seeing are super flexed and it's hard to figure out which part of the actual muscle is showing up.

>>4827150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgQdvh3c4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zgsgKKxEe8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v7uif3N2-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EyqbVVXzP4

>>4824718
the lines are pretty mushy, if you improve the line quality i don't think there would be much of a problem

How do I improve my detail drawing? I can draw the outlines and big forms and get the proportions of big objects pretty well (for a beginner anyway) but when I try to draw something small and detailed it looks absolutely nothing like the reference. Are there any exercises other than just drawing details?
For example I drew my instrument and everything looked pretty ok until I started drawing the botanical mother-of-pearl decoration on the soundboard.
It seems to me that my hand coordination just sucks.

Help

>>4827314
The right and left hand look a bit funky and the right elbow needs to go higher. More specifically the bump for the base of the thumb doesn't read quite right and the fingers read like they're all the same size. I'm not really into Homestuck, but overall the drawing has appeal.

I’ll torment you with my smut as well!

>>4827314
>homestuck
you are a lost cause, beyond help.

Am I allowed to bring my smut here, too, or only in SALT? Anyway, I kind of like the look of the gauche brushes but I feel like it’s just compensating for my shit inking.

>>4827341
That’s helpful, thanks. I definitely need to do proper hand studies, I’ve gotten too used to drawing all of them with one quick motion like picrel. It works but it definitely isn’t realistic

>>4827354
I actually really like it anon. SOUL is overflowing out of it

>>4824667
I don't like how my adaro head came out. I thought I would use 5 values so I chose evenly spaced out prismas. # 155, 157, 159, 161, and 163 but maybe I'm just not good at identifying values. Idk it looks too dark. What could I have done better?

>>4827479
ref

Help with keys to drawing please

>>4826420
Why is Sami like this? Is mileage actually a meme?

>>4827583
mileage is only good for making straighter lines/lines more accurate to your imagination. If his imagination can only visualize faces that look like that, then he's drawing to his best ability because he just cannot visualize a more detailed face other than the basic symbols in the face. If he uses a reference it would be way better for him.

>>4827402
Thanks.

>>4826464
it look really good bro the only problem i have is something that sinix imbued on me. there is a tangent from the thumb and the shoulder on the right. i think if you clean that up to clearly define them, specifically line weight would help. the hands are in the foreground. they should be in focus. they should have bolder outlines particularly where they pass over the shoulders. the render is kind of nice.

you been watching Bucci?

artist i saw was doing some feet drawings. ones with a star were me drawing from the same ref as the artist, then comparing mine to hers. ones without a star i did from reference but no comparison to other drawings

>>4824667
Why does lineart take so long. Rendering is eh too. Maybe some of you will like it.

>>4827691
These look good anon. I'd say the anatomy is slightly off on some places, especially the palm of the feet, but its subtle, and im crabbing

>>4827691
can you link the artist? these look good. i struggle to find good feet refs that dont skew into fetish poses.

>>4827832
@TB_Choi12 on Twitter. She did a stream apparently but I never saw it, I just went off the images in the stream announcement.

>>4827826
Thanks anon. I haven’t actually done any foot anatomy so I suppose that’s what I’ll look at next

Left head I drew today, right head I posted in a thread earlier this week. I think there's some improvement here, but placing features is still an extremely difficult and inconsistent process for me.

Also, any tips on how to make my lines less chicken scratchy?

How this? I still don't understand Loomis.

>>4824862
>I don't want to spend 20 dollars on that thing
ngmi

>>4827865
you're getting ahead of yourself

what do I most need to work on?

>>4827865
soul

>>4827879
Finish your drawings and stop posting beg. You're clearly not a beginner, so you won't get much help here.

>>4827865
Read your Loomis, and what’s in the book. Shading on the titty is nice, though.

>>4827887
I get called a beg fag every other thread I post in though

>>4827890
So does literally everyone. Crabs

>>4827890
I don't know what you've been posting but don't listen to them. Good artists don't crab, they can help you, actually.

Just started learning how to draw for the first time in my life, I'm only 19 so I hope I'm not too far past the "young learning stage" of my brain to get good
This is the first thing I ever drew
How do I into depth

>>4827775
it looks like she has a really tall head

>>4826715
I know it's related to the degree of the ellipse but I think everyone eyeballs it.

>>4827901
yo this is really cool
on a figure foreshortening is the greatest path to depth, and it would do you good to learn the basics of perspective on basic shapes.
It's never too late to learn to draw, young drawers just have an easier time taking drawing as a passion. If you take like young learners and asccept drawing as your passion you'll improve in great stride!

>>4827916
Thanks anon, I'll take that to heart and start practicing
I've always been a fan of knights and mecha and the like, but I literally started by looking at a wedge of cheese and saying "yo that could make a cool helmet"

>>4827657
Thanks Anon. I think the right hand also looks slightly off because one of the increments of all the digits (don't know what it's called) isn't defined enough so I plan on fixing up some linework.

>>4827890
It’s just how the get their rocks off. They alternate mocking you by saying you’re too good and mocking you by saying you really suck. It’s because you’re all horrible people and I hope you all get raped to death by a pack of feral niggers.

Any tips?

>>4827945
Fuck, i'm sorry about that.

>>4827894
>>4827891
alright, thanks
>>4827930
sup Mel

>>4827365
Hands are the devil. No artist likes drawing them.

>>4827901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25x7MuSrQGU

>>4827982
Thanks!

been messing with an old drawing of a cute hipster girl in GIMP

>>4824718
Neck is a bit on the small size watch yo proportions

Alright, got home did a fun piece, going to play a game for a while and then it's off to actually start the real part of this damn course. Since the first 2 lessons have just been kinda basic theory.

>>4824667
Any advice? Can't tell what's wrong

hi /beg/

any tips/thoughts?

>>4828071
the top half is even with the viewer. The bottom half is below the viewer. Learn perspective

meh

Why would I want to allow other Pixiv users to edit my tags?

>>4828074
nice, you are getting better mate!

can't draw chairs or things with volume and a lot of perspective good at all, so i'll focus on this for a week

>>4828090
Because then they can give the best tags and it well help others find your stuff

>>4827089
Hey... that's pretty good

>>4828118
Are you using a cheap scanner or something? Your scans always have such high contrast and many specks of dirt.

Anyway the chairs look good.

>>4828130
scanner has dirt on it and i intentionally scan with the highest contrast. lots of information is lost I'm a bit of a moron for scanning that way but whatever.

thanks but i still have a ways to go with understanding good design for chairs furniture and objects in perspective so I'll try and tackle it in one go

>>4827479
When I studied the asaro I head, I tried to keep to 3 or 4 values. Hard to keep track of anymore.

>>4827479
-The ears are too high up on yours and its making the head look like its missing a skull/brain.
- Jaw looks a bit too long but I don't know if its because of the prior problem I mentioned before though.
- The eye balls look a bit flat, they should have some soft shadows to indicate a sphere
- The right side of forehead having the same shadow value as the one (in between the eyes) looks a bit strange. The shadow between the eyes are lighter judging by the reference picture.

The forms on the left side of the face look good and clean, so keep practicing.

Kinda dig the idea of using a Matrix to generate ideas.

Wrote down 6 ideas in a matrix

Mammal, Lizard, Bird, Mechanical, Plant, Building

-- M - L - B - Mc - P - B
M
L
B
Mc
P
B

Then did a RNG for each row and got myself Plant lizard. Did the same thing for the head, body and tail size. And then what it would be doing, And got sleeping. Think this would work out well to force you to try different things you usually would never think of.

Like a sleeping plant based lizard.

>>4827691
>SSSNNNNIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>4827864
its better in that it isnt crooked. and you didn't draw in the top lip. but you are still drawing a flat picture. you need to work on your ability to just draw a basic 3 dimensional shape. if i was to draw a cube around the head you made, the front face is basically just facing forward, so it doesnt make sense that we can also see the side of his head. if his head is turned away we should see his facial features wrapping around his head on a curve following the round shape of the head. get good at simple stuff first. i know its boring but its the only way.

>>4827879
looks very good. do the line work and render it. you got this.

>>4827947
your proportions are all over the place. the front wheel looks like its as big or bigger than the rider. before you go putting it all that detail, and dark bold lines, keep it really loose and light so that you can make changes.

>>4828074
her eyes are too far apart. good painting tho

>>4828140
o0o0o0 nice studies

>>4828178
>straight lines at the end
Ohhh, ohhhh. This is why I never quite get the loominosioatinatility head right.

is her knee off or is this a natural pose here?

any tips for chopping off the side of the sphere for the loomis tech? the front view is stalling me

iae cuzçoes

>>4826579
Neck looks funky because the muscle definition comes from the ear to the collarbone.

>>4828205
disgusting mess

>>4828228
of course. its unfinished. its a 20 min sketch that went into GIMP for 5 min. mind sharing whats fundamentally wrong?

>>4824695

youre all trash die die die die
>>4828228
you have no work to speak of

>>4828256
kekt

>>4827043
lol that face on the right was referenced with one of those shitty uncanney valley 3d models of questionable conent. you just know.

>>4828178
>if i was to draw a cube around the head you made, the front face is basically just facing forward, so it doesnt make sense that we can also see the side of his head.
Does that have more to do with the construction of the head itself or in the placement of the features on the face?

>>4826589
Don't get too hung up on detail
when you draw the face, make passes where you get the general shape first before layering more and more detail on everything equally

>>4828076
Is there a reason it's not fisheye perspective?

>>4828140
Lmao I tried again. I have much work to do.

i made this pic to use as a thumbnail on youtube for my house/techno mix.
the lines were done with pen and paper, and the colors digitally on paint.net.
i thought it would be a good idea to use flashy colors to grab people's attention. what do u think?

>>4828323
Here's what i would change.
Contrast background color to make the icon pop out.
bloom effects on the eye because it looks like neon light and much cooler.

>>4828342
It's not bad and all but I'm very disturbed by the white pixels between the linework and colors

>>4828342
Yellow and purple looks cool. Thank you

>>4828354
That is my fault lol, it was done traditionally and then colored with paint.net. But i think people won't notice unless they put the video on a TV since you can't zoom on youtube videos

>>4828319
The point of the asaro head is to have comprehensible and simplified planes of the head.
Don't try to add additional features for now. Add detailed features when you think you have a full grasp of the asaro head.
The shading is good but the perspective is a bit off. Mainly on the ears, eyes, and nose.

>>4828205
I would love to give you some criticism but I literally don't know what I'm looking at.
This is really messy. I recommend cleaning your work up.

>>4827901
>>4827919
Pretty neat anon, I tried doing something similar to your designs, but it ended up looking like garbage.
If you're looking for some inspiration for the whole mecha and knights shtick, I'd check out some anime like Aura Battler Dunbine or Panzer World Galient for some ideas for the design.

>>4828358
cleaned the lines a bit. now it's less noticeable

So I drew celebi and needed something for her to hold in her hands. I just threw some lines together and ta-daaa, rare candy. Offering my services to edgy romhackers tomorrow morning.

Failed at this
I could get so much more drawings done if I wasn't in a bad spot regarding my mental illness right now

>>4828456
and some quick 10 minute thing
not that happy with it, as i was with my work yesterday

First one I've done in a long time, need a second opinion as to whether or not the pecs look retarded, also if the lower leg looks properly foreshortened, to my estimation people don't think to much about whether or not foreshortening looks accurate except for when it doesn't meet the threshold for believability, I think I've met that threshold, either I'm here for a second opinion

Loomis heads

I'm so scared to draw anything for fear it's worse than last time and I've regressed

>>4828458
stop outlining lips and it'll look decent

>>4828074
love the values, keep up the good work!

Apologies in advance, pulse needs to explode

If you wanna run away with me, I know a galaxy
And I can take youfora ride
I hada premonition that we fell intoa rhythm
Where the music don't stop for life
Glitter in the sky, glitter in my eyes
Shining just the way I like
If you're feeling like you need a little bit of company
You met me at the perfect time

>>4828480
>>4828480
how would I portay without a clear outline? so far, nothing on the matter has been studied
throwing myself out there, drawing without a clear plan
help me anon, give me a guide

i fear that this one can't be saved >>4828456 my fault, apologies

>>4828509
i drew an example, either draw in a stylized simplified outline or shade and render what you see in ref

>>4828540
Nice thanks anon

aigth brahs, today I was looking at my
Atlas of Human Anatomy and I felt bad that I couldn't do art like that; I got some kind of Existential Dread so I decidet to start drawing.
First I drew that dude Igor and I felt that It was boring, after I finished I started drawing Senku just letting myself go but ended up looking like Shit (left). Unmotivated I watched some Tedx video about 20 hours and decided to re-draw it swallowing my pride and used the Angle technique(rigth). It got way better but I can't help to compare myself with that dude Boichi.
What could I buy to make some finer lines? I feel that appart from having some messed up proportions my drawings are too mushy. I showed in my pic all the """"""Art""""" supplies I have to draw. I don't have that much money tho.

help guys, i failed today, tried to do another pic and doing the lips the right way but I failed at it, there's the matter on keys to drawing

>>4828619
stop using avatar images and blogposting. Post art or don't post.

>>4824667
I was told adding a little purple to your shadows makes them look better. So here is a little experiment

>>4828644
maybe a little too purple

>>4828644
just depends what kind of style you're going for

Did hand in class today

>>4828687
palm too wide thumb too long on lower section and short on phalanx

>>4828687
I did your mom in class today.

>>4828655
I'm trying to achieve a shtyle that is completely unblockable.

Sketch of D4C painting a Warhammer figure

how do i make this shit better i suck at rendering? its a subartic zebraffe

>>4828987
oh and is there anything glaringly wrong with it? the raised leg is hard to figure out because im not sure how much should be in shadow

>>4828394
It looks a lot better now tho

>>4825054
It is her right cheek. But from a our point perspective it is the left. Come on now, anon, you know that.

>>4828835
what army does valentine play

What is a better figure drawing book to start on after Fun with a Pencil: Loomis' figure drawing book or Hampton's figure drawing book?

>>4824718
Bro the ear should be where the jaw ends

>>4826483
Looks great except that your feature placement is wrong and mouth is too big.

The bottom of the nose is halfway between eyebrow and chin. The bottom of the lower lip is halfway between bottom of the nose and chin. Eyes are in the middle of the head.

>>4827066
construction would help a lot. your stuff is good but looks totally flat.

>>4829070
Loomis. Hampton is more for when you know some anatomy.

>>4828631
>>4828456
>>4828458
>>4825965
>>4826471

>>4829355
ughuhuhhshshhskreeeeee

>>4829355
Stop using secure tripcodes. Stop attention whoring. Stop it. You'll get attention when your art warrants it you fucking twit.

>>4829355
You keep wondering why you don't progress at art but it's because you use whining and attention-seeking in these threads as a replacement for the attention your art WOULD get if you were actually good. So you rush through any work you actually do, post it here, it's shit because you rushed it to show people, and then when you don't get any bites from your low effort attention seeking you start ranting and wailing. Stop it. Just leave this thread for like two weeks and draw things. Come back with stuff you're proud of. Stop crippling yourself by seeking out negative attention instead of improving.

>>4829401
>>4829398
Armchair psychology 101
I post because I know it's bad, so I need to know what to fix for the next one, I don't rush because I want to show le epic internetz friends, no, I rush because that's a very bad habit I have, I need constant help to make sure others are having the same issues and have arrived at a solution that I can use.

>>4828644
>I was told adding a little purple to your shadows makes them look better.
if you want to be realistic, then there's color in everything that should be considered (ie, never use straight black, consider chromatic blacks)
otherwise it's just stylized

>>4828091
>>4828184
>>4828481
Thx!!

I asked this in a previous thread and am still having this problem...


My drawings/paintings come out crooked/slanted. Everything looks right until I flip it horizontally, then it becomes apparent that all my vertical lines are slanted and things I thought were on the same horizontal lines are skewed (eyes don't match up for example.


I've tried sitting differently, holding the pencil differently, making sure I'm not tilting my head or body and really focusing on making straight lines and it still comes out shitty, sometimes less than others, but damn.


I can sort of fix this by constantly flipping the canvas and adjusting but it's really frustrating and seems like I'm overworking my paintings just trying to fix the most basic of things.
I've looked around online and it seems to be a thing some artists experience, but I haven't really found any viable reasons/solutions. Any ideas? Anyone have experience with this?

Everyone post your current sketchbook page you filled out

As you can see I'm inconsistent as fuck and cannot fucking draw women at all, especially anime girls.

I'd apreciate some feedback. I drew this yesterday. Just started drawing very recently

Rendered out her hair and did some touch-ups that this anon >>4827657 suggested. I don't think the heavier line-weight fixed the tangent, but maybe next time I go at it I'll try to push some saturation or hue variety to help it break away a little bit.

>>4828067
The design's very appealing, just make sure if you're going to do hatching for the shadow make sure it's in the direction of the form.

>>4828074
Not much else to say that other anons haven't said, but if I had to be nitpicky I'd say the clothes by her shoulder blends in with her hair a little bit. I'd honestly just get another layer overlay of black and adjust it just a little bit.

>>4829403
I'll be real it looks like you didn't spend anymore than 5 minutes on your drawing. Not trying to be mean or anything, but do you really like drawing? I don't get an impression that you do.

>>4829554
I know that absolutely EVERYTHING is wrong with the lines. All of my drawings look sketchy as fuckk. How can i get better at drawing more delicate lines?

>>4829559
Forgot the artwork

>>4829559
I do enjoy it you absolute cunt, gatekeeping now? Piece of trash. I enjoy it but I rush the details yet take my time on the construction
I DONT RENDER ANYTHING BECAUSE I CANT, WHY WOULD I TRY? IM GOING TO FAIL
GATKEEPING ART NOW, YOU ABSOLUTE BELLEND YOU PIECE OF TRASH, BE GLAD I DONT CALL YOU OUT ON YOUR STUFF
I ASK FOR HELP BUT ALL I GET IS THIS

>>4829540
That drawing of the world is ass, don't even get me started on the rest

>>4829540
nice za warudo

I DONT ENJOY DRAWING NOW? HOW WOULD YOU EVEN KNOW? YOU JUST WANT TO CALL ME TRASH
I LACK SKILL, TALENT YET I HAVE TO PUSH ON BECAUSE I LIKE IT, YEAH MY STUFF IS TRASH, THEYRE NOT DRAWINGS BUT ABORTIONS
>>4829559
I FUCKING HATE YOU
I WOULD NOT ONLY BASH YOU AGAINST A WALL, I WOULD MAKE SURE TO BREAK EVERYTHING IN YOU
I WOULD BASH YOU OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND AGAIN OVER AND FUCKING OVER

having the prudence not to take on or share big projects is now a lack of passion?
gods, divine entities, ethereal concepts refused to give me talent, i'm a punished demon, stuck on the last ring of hell only to get rejected my peers, i post as a normal person and I go rejected, pulse comes out and /beg/ hates me

>>4829540
W-whats The World doing to Ruby? S-shes going to be okay right?

>>4829581
>buuuuhuuuu this drawing is a failure just like the rest muh mental illness
>namefaggot
please slice your wrists vertically next time

i DO nothing but think of art, I want to make something with her, i eat art, i think about art, art art art, day after day, while at the same time aware of my lack of talent, I push on.
yet I'm constantly denied her love, i'm constantly denied skill
AND I WONDER
WHICH ENTITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS? SATAN, CHAINED ON HELL, THAT'S WHO I AM
MY VERY OWN KINGDOM OF ICE
MY INFINITE PRISON
THE LAST RING EXPANDING BEYONG ANY HOPE OF ESCAPE
WAITING FOR A CHANCE AT REDEMPTION, MY WINGS OBLITERATED ON THE FALL TO THIS CURSED PLANET
why? am i not special? not special enough to be an artist? concepts far greater than myself want me to make them, yet i lack talent

True, I cant bring myself to draw a lot due to failure, but I practice ovals, circles, spheres and lines, again and again
>>4829559
You want to look down on me
where is your talent located? How deep would i have to go into your spine to find it? where is it?
>>4829597
how about i bite your throat off?

>>4826479
>>4826063
you were lying to me, you were mocking me, there has been no progress no change and you laughed at me, you laughed at me you bastard and now here you are >>4829559
showing your true intention

>>4829540
Stop posting shit if you aren't going to post anything of Value retard. No one wants to see your shitty scribbles.

>>4829569
soul

>>4829616
>Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done. Anything is okay.
>Anything is okay.

>>4829616
>don't post your work it fucking sucks you loser
>/beg/
kill yourself you worthless cretin

>>4829614
I didnt laugh. That was my genuine critique. Also, pic related.

Stop being a schizo, schizo

im only in this thread to help artists improve and become better without shaming them.

>>4829652
Ignore him

>>4829672
>posting normally
>guy makes up bullshit
>get mad
how is this my fault again?

>>4829675
I'm just telling you to ignore the cancerous tripfag but you do what you want with that suggestion bro

>>4829679
you're talking to pulse

>>4829672
Anon it's not even the same tripcode.

>>4829403
>I don't rush because I want to show le epic internetz friends
Yes you do. Liar. It shows in every piece you post.

>>4829533
Buy a ruler or use some kind of straight edge, also get used to manipulating the canvas watch a speedpaint even the good ones are constantly flipping and moving shit

>>4829560
Push lighter into the paper

Eye area is confusing as fuck.

>>4829602
>AND I WONDER
>WHICH ENTITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS?
It's you, you self destructive schizo retard attention seeking fraud. You are responsible for your own misery.

>>4829628
>>4829633
If the retard isn't at least going to pretend to put in any effort or show practice he shouldn't post his garbage. He isn't trying and you can tell by his post.

>>4829540
How can you fit THAT much cringe into a single sketchbook page?

>>4829787
>>4829789
these timestamps lmfao
fuck off schizo

>>4829794
Fuck off NGMI retard, your drawings are shit

>>4829807
projecting

>>4829809
Those drawings are all complete shit and the only ones that look slightly passable are direct 1 to 1 copies with no imagination. You're full of fucking shit and your drawings are so flawed even an ameture can tell you're a talentless price of shit. Are you gonna cry that people are rightfully shitting on your cringy sketchbook drawings filled with poorly copied weeb shit? Like I said, NGMI, kill yourself.

>>4829827
>people
Just you schizo

>>4829846
Not even going to try to defend your worthless weebshit drawings? Lmoa go try and copy more underage girls faggot.

>>4829849
pyw

>>4829851
Nice deflection. You're not even denying that you poorly copied shit then posted it here. >>4829540 you tell what you traced and what you didn't, and you couldn't even fucki g trace your weebshit. Only two drawings on this diereha stain look like you drew them and the others are the shittiest traces I've seen. Even a monkey can trace.

>>4829860
so put me in my place and post your work. I think I draw better than you.

Trying to get into portraiture and figure drawing. My first attempt.

did a bargue plate for the first time
im proud of it but there’s one thing that I can’t point out that feels off

>>4828062
what the fug

>>4829871
If >>4829540 is the best you can do then I doubt it.

>>4829827
>>4829787
>>4829789
>>4829849
>>4829860
>>4829892

I didn't trace anything. The only thing in that picture that is a "copy" is that drawing of The World which I copied the pose for, but I still tried to add some if my own flair by changing up the hatching.

Also I like how you've been arguing with another person thinking they are me.

>>4829895
>I didn't trace these drawings I swear!

Bullshit

>>4829904
Bruh, even that drawing of the world you can tell isn't a trace. Go ahead and overlay it over the original and you
can see for yourself.

>>4829602

if you wanted actual critiques and help, /ic/ is not your ideal option cuz it's mostly filled with crabs and /begs/. also, get therapy.

DUDE SEX NUMBER LMAO dunno how i feel about this one, kinda rushed it abit as it didnt speak to me much

>>4829920
it's the best there is, rest of the internet is trash.
still, i just want criticism

>>4829938

>rest of the internet is trash

lmao you have a point but remember we're still on /ic/. anyways do you have a discord? i ain't no proko or glenn vilppu but i can try to help a bro out

>>4829948
pyw, portraits preferably

>>4829880
those fat contours make it look fat as fuck

>>4829948
i dont have a discord sorry

any thoughts?

>>4830002
looks like she will fall at any moment

>>4824718
that's a gigantic head for those shoulders

fell for the bait thread. lucy liu from kill bill. any advice appreciated, including advice on how to take good pictures of my work.

>>4830276
check out the sticky
measure better

>>4828474
Ffs can some1 please say something useful abt this now, I've been refreshing non stop

>>4830276
It's not bad but like others have said the facial proportions are a bit off. The space between the eyes is a bit too big, the face is slightly too tall, and the shading on her cheek makes it look concave instead of convex. It's really a good effort overall though.

>>4830032
Looks great for a doodle, but you should add the same amount of detail to the legs as you did to the upper body, otherwise it's gonna be flat.

>>4830002
Solid work! I think the hands need some attention though, they both look just slightly off.

why do people call my stuff rushed but others get a pass?

>>4830294
bro i'm a beg but anyone can tell that this pic lacks any kind of convincing construction. it's okay to experiment and play around with stylization and stuff, but idk what to say with this other then that you need to learn perspective and read loomis.

>>4830305
pyw and we can figure it out together :)

>>4830320
i already did

>>4825764
>what i should focus on studying?
I would say some simple shapes, looks like you have some difficult with it. .

>>4830305
Because you only ever post things you made in a couple of minutes. We're not asking you to post projects that you spent weeks on, but if you want people to spend more than 5 minutes of their day looking at your stuff than you should spend more than 5 minutes of your time drawing. Come back to us with something that took you at least an hour of your time.

>>4830312
Appreciate the feedback, wdym by construction

>>4830404
what would take an hour in your opinion? give me something to try anon

>>4830429

try doing exercises from keys to drawing if you haven't already, most of them demand anywhere from 20 minutes to two hours to do properly. it's quite accessible for beginners, at least until you get to parts that call for leaving your house, that shit kills me.

>>4830432
im already doing that, im stuck on section 2, i even posted my shitty attempt at that

>>4830432
>>4830434
i would post some of my exercises in fact, keys to drawing is hard, i dont know whats literal or not

>>4830423

drawing the simplified three dimensional form your subject, generally as collection of interrelated cubes/spheres/cones etc. it lays a groundwork for your drawing which you can then build on top of.

>>4830434
Is this yours?>>4826690 because that isn't a bad effort for that particular exercise. it's not a flawless 1/1 copy but it seems like you got the gist of it, I really don't get the hysterics. Try doing the next exercise and stop overthinking this.

>>4830460
>I really don't get the hysterics
He's legitimately mentally ill.

>>4830460
yes, it's mine, it's not accurate, i dont think i got the point, besides others did it better

>>4830611
all right, then burn the book and cut your hands off.

like seriously, i didn't get the flaming you got earlier in the thread until now. you need to fucking relax. continue with the exercises, even if you don't think you get it. i promise it won't kill you.

>>4830684
>>4830602
don't bother trying to help the schizo, he does this in every thread

>>4830693
i need help at getting better
>>4830684
ill stop posting and do more practice without worrying about the quality, thanks anon

>>4830045
I fixed it here >>4826712

>>4826775
You'd learn by more buying a pack of shading pencils and a sketchbook.

Help a /beg/ out

>>4831446
I would say not /beg/ but the perspective on her head compared to her body is off

i think it's starting to have a little volume to it...

Working through fundamentals right now, doing body, hands, legs, and what not, with flow and opposing theory. This shit's rough. I feel like I'm not making any progress, but I guess that I am. Since I've only been drawing for a month, and I just started this bit a few days ago. But damn, I never thought it would actually be something that takes time to get good at. Everything else I've ever done in my life has always been sort of easy and straight forward to understand and do, but drawing is fucking hard.

Holy fuck... Im.. im feeling the fucking form anons.. Holy shit. Is this the power of the gods?

is it bad? I am new at this

>>4832993
this is very good because it is funny but it is not so skilled