/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4811607
oops.
>>>4797667

>>4811607
Based OP.

Question for you guys, is the innovator 16 a reasonable amount of upgrade from the 15.6 pro to switch to it or is it just minimal improvements?

>>4811624
the most significant change is literally just slimmer shell and more buttons. but if you're actually into that stuffs then yeah w/e

>>4811641
Guess I'm just going to wait until their stylus performance improves then. I don't really care about the slimmer tablet or more buttons / new scroll wheel stuff.

>>4811607
Is there another stylus I can use on my galaxy note 10? I really hate trying to draw with this fucking 3ds stylus s-pen. Looking for an active stylus that has pressure sensitivity, not one of those fat finger styluses.

>>4811764
Just stuff your stylus inside an eraser pen body desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB7rf71bWyo

>>4811607
wtf Intuos pro M is literally 4x the price of Deco Pro M in my country.

>>4811764
Any Wacom EMR pen dummy.
My favorite is the Noris Digital because it's literally just a staedtler pencil.

>>4811607
>recommends the Galaxy Tab S6 Lite but not the 2nd gen iPad Pro

>>4811816
The nibs will wear out 8 times faster as well! But at least youll have a wacom sticker on it so you know its good!

>>4811816
That's what happens under a monopoly.

Has anyone here had experience in getting used to different DPI when they changed their display (from monitor to display-tablet or whatever)?
Currently I'm drawing with a roughly 144dpi monitor, I got 7 years to get used to it. Now say, if I change to Cintiq Pro 24, the DPI will increase to roughly 173 @ 4k display. If I choose the 32 inch version, the DPI will be at around 130, which is much closer to my current DPI.
Which one should I go for (not talking about Cintiq, but rather, should I go for the lower, but close to my current DPI or switch to higher DPI?) What's your experience in this? Which one feels better/more correct?

It's all fine, what you should be concerned about is what size you'll be comfortable concerning hige fucking shoulder swings and having to literally look around.

With a 32" tablet you will have to literally look around for the brushes and menus, it's fucking tremendous.

>>4812288
Higher dpi feels so good man.

>>4812301
yep yep, definitely. I've thought about it, and still thinking about it. Larger shoulder movement would be a plus for me. My current old Intuos Pro Med, without any stand, without any adjustable height whatsoever, limits my movement too much that my right wrist hurts after nearly an hour of painting.
My current table will not allow 32", but right now I've already used like 1/6 of the monitor for statuses and color wheel. More real estate would be amazing, that's not mentioning more space = more space for color wheel = more nuanced colors picking.
Is the Wacom FlexArm good for Cintiq? Or would the Ergo be more than enough?

gonna get me a galaxy tab s6 lite so i can draw huge anime tits in math class ama

>>4812420
why not getting an ipad so you can draw even bigger tiddies?

>>4812434
because even though my passion for big anime tiddies knows no boundaries, my wallet, sadly, does

>>4811879
This looks cool
Has anyone tried it ?

Never used a tablet before, what makes someone prefer having a screen vs screenless tablet? Any major difference as far as feel, and durability goes? Can you use a screen tablet like a screenless if you wanted to?

>>4813576
Stop posting in the chinese thread.

Real thread is here: >>4811550

>>4813560
Yeah they break very easily. The internal stylus tube fell out of the pencil body on mine, hit the floor and never worked again. It was good while it lasted.

>>4813590
That thread is cancer, I'd rather stay in comfyposting tablet thread and not in the shitposting one.

>>4813576
depends on which one you get but the major difference will be getting use to the extra hand eye you need to get use to with a screenless, as for feel as long as you don't get a glossy glass type of display the feel is ok on the etched glass ones but still not the same as trad

>>4813576
>Never used a tablet before, what makes someone prefer having a screen vs screenless tablet?
Display tablets are neat, its much more akin to drawing on paper, so you don't have to train your hand eye coordination for the disconnect that comes with regular tablets. Its a lot quicker for someone starting out with digital painting to pick it up. Some people don't like having their hand in the way of their screen and prefer to deal with the disconnect so they can see everything at all times while they work. It's also much easier to have a completely ergonomic workspace with the non-display tablets. A lot of people with display tablets can't handle having it set up as close to a 90° angle as possible and opt to lean over their tablet, causing back and neck issues.

>Any major difference as far as feel, and durability goes?
There are a lot more things that can go wrong with a display tablet since there are more parts. You have to worry about screen brightness slowly going out over time, dead pixels/dead pixel spread, and putting too much pressure on the screen and breaking it. Durability and feel has more to do with the brand and build/driver quality for either kind of tablet.

>Can you use a screen tablet like a screenless if you wanted to?
All the ones I've had have the ability to do this (set it to mirror your monitor and shut the tablet screen off) so I'm assuming all the others have this ability, but its always possible that someone made some dumb shit where you can't use it this way.

>>4813630
damn what a disappointment

>>4813646
I prefer glossy displays, the etched glass and textured screen protectors feel good but they make shit all grainy when you zoom out. Sucks ass. I'd rather have my hand skidding or slipping on glass than have to deal with that shit.

>>4812339
Ergo flex is good enough. If youre mounting the thing on an arm anyways you might as well go big dude. Desk space means nothing when you've got that shit mounted on an arm. As long as the desk can bear the weight fucking go for it.

Whelp, the Surface Neo, seems DOA. Shall i hold hope that Hololens and AR become the next technology push, and hope for a virtual infinite art studio workspace? And a trackable stylus in 3d space?

>>4814102
No you should just go buy something different

>>4811607
>Wacom Intuos Pro 2013 line

Whats wrong with the current line did i miss anything

>>4814228
it's overpriced

>>4814231
>>4814228
Honestly I still really like my pro L. I got it on sale for $350 a few weeks ago after my ancient. Piece of shit bamboo broke, and I gotta say it's extremely nice to have so much precision and drawing area. I can't compare it to a 2013 one but I'd still say there's nothing wrong with the current ones.

Anyone here use the white tip for their s-pen? How dos it feel like? I heard it's niccr to draw with but i'm afraid it might scratch the screen eventually

>>4814249
Felt tip only master race

>>4814243
I had one of the new ones and it was cool until the wireless card inside the tablet shit out on me after my usb port broke inside the tablet. I'd have to take it apart and somehow find the right parts to replace on the board to fix it, ended up buying a new one, and hey what do you know the fucking usb broke within 3 months. Its luck of the draw with these things now, you either get one with good parts and sturdy soldering that last you years or you get fucked by wacom QA

>>4811607
>>Budget
$750, but I could go up $900 if I can get a good stand, vesa arm for my screenless tablet. I see a lot of people complain about new Wacom and praise the old tablets, which I'm not adverse to buying, so I'm wondering who has the best quality for the price.

>>Location
US

>>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
Display, please. I've used a screenless tablet for years.

>>Size (in inches)
22-24 inches. I saw that XP Pen has a sell on their tablet, and was wondering which was the better value between Xp pen artist 24 pro and the Xp pen display 22r and which actually supports vesa mounting arm or whatever it's called.

>>Other information
I also need to upgrade by PC, so I wonder how much of a factor that will be.

>>Previous equipment
Huion screenless tablet. I think it was a H610. All the nibs wore down and I legit started using

>>If you have any, state your preferences regarding surface texture (paper emulation, smooth etc)
Never really cared about this stuff, since I mostly just used printer paper to doodle on, but I want to get into digital art, so it'd be cool if someone call tell me the pros and cons of each. Sorry if this was tl; dr. I just want to get a good display tablet without feeling like my wallet got raped. Also, for the people who bought display tablets: did you go directly through the company's website or through a second party like Amazon and possibly bought an extended warranty? I mentioned the sale onXP's site, but I don't see anything about extended warranties and whatever, so I won't have to deal with shipping shit back after it's outside of the manufacturer's warranty.

>>4814357
>if I can get a good stand, vesa arm for my display tablet.

>I think it was a H610. All the nibs wore down and I legit started using nylon trimmer wire when I was flat broke.

>>4814357
>I've got the 24pro, also US.

You have the budget for a smaller cintiq if you wanted, but I wanted something huge so I went third party. The 24 is kind of massive coming from a much smaller screenless tablet for 10 years, but I've had mine for about two months and it feels I ike its not that big. However, like >>4812301 said
>With a 32" tablet you will have to literally look around for the brushes and menus, it's fucking tremendous.
It becomes muscle memory but yeah.

The 22R and 24pro are both Vesa moutable, they both come with 2 passive pens and central nibs in the holder to help if you have a nib problem again, and replacement pens aren't too expensive in case you manage to destroy both somehow.
>i need to upgrade my pc
Think of this as you buying a functional monitor for the pc build. At that size you can use it as the main monitor and not feel bad about it honestly. Specs wise, you should be fine. The drivers have been pretty solid.

I got mine on their site, mostly because they give youtubers discount codes i can use there and I feel safer ordering direct rather than getting the Amazon run around these days, plus Bezos has enough Trump bucks. XpPen is kinda priced so you won't care about a warranty because honestly, they're cheap enough if you break it replacing it isn't eye surgery.

Honestly, I say go for either one, or even a cintiq if you felt so inclined. If youre still unsure, there are reviews of the features and youll notice if there's a common issue for you across all the videos. If its not an issue, then you'll be happy.

If youre having second thoughts about the size, a 16" won't be a bad second choice but they often are not mountable.

>>4814393
On the 16" not being mountable thing, the parblo/artisul tablet stand is really good and sturdy along with being cheap with good control over what angle you have it at. Makes it comfy. Usually the stands that come with tablets are total shit.

>>4814357
The 24 pro is way nicer than the old 22r. Go with the 24 pro its so fucking nice to draw on. Just be careful when you peel the protective film off, don't accidentally peel off your screen protector like i did

>>4814393
>>4814420

thanks for the replies. I think the extra size would be a plus for me, since as lanky skeleton I often had problems finding space to draw properly on my old tablet along with orientating myself with my 17" monitor. I'll keep the 16" Wacom in mind as a backup if I don't like the 22-24" display. I was planning to buy 2 displays in and just avoid the warranty, as long as the build quality holds up. So i might grab two 24 pros.

>>4814420
How hard is it to reapply the screen protector is you accidentally peel it off? Also, I heard people say it's recommended to get the display drawing gloves for drawing on screens for long hours, due to sweat? Do all display tablets have this issues? I know it's going to be a motherfucker drawing during the summer here in Vegas, especially when the AC goes out.

>>4814435
If you've got a card handy and manage not to get any dust under it when you accidentally peel it off i think you could get it back on with minimal damage, but I unfortunately ruined mine when I accidentally peeled it and I had to go through the trouble of buying a new one and reapplying it which was a fucking bitch to do. It shouldn't be super easy to peel off i was just being a fucking retard about it and wasn't careful in the slightest, hooked my nail under both pieces instead of just grabbing the top layer of plastic and ripped that fucker straight off. Just don't be a retard like me and you'll be fine.

And yes you want a drawing glove. Especially if you live in a hot climate and you even have a chance of the ac going out. Sweaty hands skid all over the place and leave gross handprints everywhere which makes it hard to see. Plus you want to keep your screen clean anyways for visibility and to reduce any scratching on your screen protector. You should get a shitty glove with the tablet. I hate the feeling of the cheapo fabric rubbing together and always cut off the ring finger making it just a pinky glove.

>>4814435
>>4814453
100% you should get a glove. Its not glass smooth, but it's not etched. Sweat that drys on the screen is 1) gross, and 2) going to cause a kind of patchiness you'll notice as your pen its those dried spots. You hand will drag or squeak and its just better to avoid so you can keep working. XP throws one in for free with every tablet, but I've worn mines stitches through so get a spare if you plan on actually using it to draw.

Despite your budget being open I dont think investing in 2 tablets as monitors is a good idea, seeing as you would probably be only using one, seems like a waste to get a second as just a monitor. In place I'd suggest getting a BenQ monitor for good colors and resolution to match your display tablet. But, your budget, your purchase.
I'm a chic so as far as the size goes, bigger has definitely been better to encourage me to do bigger gestures but it's made me realize how short my arms are. The good news is, the 24 (not sure about the 22) has little rubber feet on the bottom so it can just about hang off the edge of your desk for easy access. Guys have naturally longer arms so you should be fine either way.

>>4814420
I'm the other 24pro anon and I have a question for you: What makes you say the 24 is better other than the 2k screen?
Honestly, I'm asking because I wanted the 22R more, since the 24 is a bit bigger than I expected so I was looking to sell it and get the 22 eventually.

>>4811607
H610 V2 is a solid tablet for under 100 bucks.

https://youtu.be/NMmKvPUsbFg

>>4814102
>VR
Enjoy lifting your arm for more than an hour, lawnmower man

>>4814883
Why can't they make these things larger? It's strange that shoulder action is underplayed in digital art when it's much more comfortable and ergonomic. Even a 16" would be pretty comfy and usable

>>4814883
>H610 V2 is a solid tablet for under 100 bucks.
100$ is too much it should sell around 60-70 AND there's the Deco 01v2 which is basically that but better.

>>4815217
There are a few larger tablets
>Deco Pro
>HS1161
>Intuos Large

>>4815236
The Deco Pro M and Intuos Large are still only about A4 paper sized. I'd say 16" is where you hit the comfort zone

Seems like kamvas 22 won't be available on my country until next year and buying things from Amazon still isn't an option here
Please talk me out of getting a kamvas 20 pro, lads

>>4815236
the V2 is 60 euros on amazon.

>>4815153
Clearly, you've never painted on real canvas.

>>4811550
Just got my Kamvas 13, what should I be running through to make sure it's working properly? This is my first display tab so I'm not sure what is normal/abnormal when it comes to these.

>>4815860
>linking that autists thread

Just fire up your art software and try to draw with it. Or open the tablets menu and test the pressure and calibration.

>>4815873
I didn't mean to i just posted in both threads

>sink half of a paycheck into buying a display tablet
>suddenly get paranoid about whether it'll work with my actively dying computer
>hurricane scheduled to hit this week, potentially in the time frame the package will deliver
Im gonna die of stress before this fucker ever even gets here.

>>4815878
Its fine. Youll notice how pleasant the people in that one are soon enough

>>4811607
is the ipad 7 better than huion and xp pen?

>>4815978
comparing white trash to chink trash

>>4815887
If you live in an area that gets BTFO by natural disasters every once in a while, you should really look into UPSs and laptops. Generators and solar panels if it's bad enough.

Anyone tried Lenovo 2 in 1s? Is its Active Pen or whatever good?

>finally find a good price for a xp pen artist 15.6 pro on kijiji
>faggot seller takes years to reply and just stopped recently

>>4811607
Any 700-800$ that i can game and art with? I already have a tablet so.

>>4816488
Im referring to a laptop.

Does using display tablet improve my drawings of lines?
Now I just keep undo and redraw until I get that perfect line, don't even require muscle control.
Just keep redoing it.

>>4816488
My man if you were looking for a desktop in that range you might get something half decent but a laptop in that price range thats OK for gaming and art programs? You can forget about having a gaming laptop or you can save up. Double your budget and you might find a decent laptop for that.

is there a recommended brand of screen protectors?
Looking for something for a 13~ laminated screen, it's not etched so i'm concerned about future, inevitable scratches

>>4816549
What brand is it? Some brands come with screen protectors pre-installed and sell replacements on their websites

>>4816551
huion kamvas, didn't realize it had a "Anti-glare-screen protector" already, guess that's one less worry

>>4816505
I feel like for most people it's for speed/comfort

Anons who use a tablet with a screen:
Please don't fuck your neck/spine up. Make sure that you have a good position or you'll regret it in 10 years.

>>4816581
I'm 22 and my spine is invincible, old man

>>4816581
>implying we want to live another 10 years

artist 15.6 pro or artist 13.3 pro?
Is 15" too much if I wanna be a lazy faggit and draw in bed?

>>4816962
draw in bed, get back problems, have fun with your lazyness, fatso

>>4816980
because sitting hunched over a tablet at a table is any better

>>4816581
w-what do you mean

>>4816983
why would you hunch over a tablet

>>4816996
looking down on your screen, because you got baited on buying a screen tablet you deserve to have back problems later in life, stupid consumers

>>4817003
So i can look like an actual artist instead of a wagie when I work, duh

Is it possible to rig a Kamvas 13 to work with an arm mount somehow?

Is 2048 pen pressure bad?
Is that why my line weight looks pretty much the same?

>>4811607
My year old Huion 1060 keeps reaching a crashing point where the green dots stay on and the pen stops working. What do I do?

>>4815725
So I have to choose between:
XP-Pen Deco 03
Huion 1060P, H1161
Wacom Intuos Small (CTL-4100)
Which one sucks less?

>>4816581
i have a standing desk so everything is raised enough so that i can draw at a comfortable position

Red pill me on Huion kamvas 13.
I want to know the bad about it.

>>4819728
just get the size equivalent to whatever xp-pen offers.

>>4819728
if it's anything like the GT-191 your screen brightness settings will be impossible calibrate properly.

>>4819542
Avoid anything small
Id get deco

>>4819105
yeah you can get some tablet clamp attachments and use it with one of those thirty dollar arm mounts from amazon

huion h950p vs huion hs611 vs xp-pen deco 1 v2

Which one should I get? I'm kinda leaning to hs611 right now

>>4819752
XP pen looks delayish on drawing.
And you sound like a shill...

>>4819753
I don't know about that.
I only have a wacom non display now.

If anyone else is having problems with their cintiq pen not being recognized on linux unless they pull out the usb and plug it in again all the time, just run this script with sudo on startup and whenever you are having issues:
#!/bin/bash

for d in /sys/bus/usb/devices/*; do
if [ -r "$d/idVendor" ]; then
idVendor=`cat $d/idVendor`
idProduct=`cat $d/idProduct`
if [ "$idVendor" = "056a" -a "$idProduct" = "00fa" ]; then
echo 0 > "$d/authorized"
echo 1 > "$d/authorized"
fi
fi
done

>>4819771
Get it in red and post pics

>>4819775
Posting on mobile so that I can Say that I ran this and my computer just blue screened

>>4819779
I almost did but I have another conundrum:
XP-PEN G960S vs HS611

HS611 seems better in every way BUT G960S is 40% cheaper while still having an acceptable 9x6in active area.

Help me choose chink bros...

>>4819775
Lmao what the fuck is this absolute nonsense

>>4819866
Serves you right for being an idiot

>>4819871
Choose the biggest one

>>4819866
>bluescreened
I said linux you idiot.
>>4819875
It just clears out your usb devices, it's functionally the same as pulling it out and plugging it back in again.

>>4819905
Sure buddy and my name is Andrew Loomis

>>4819728
>>4819752
>>4819774

Seconding what this guy says. My brother and I bought similar tablets from both Huion and XP-Pen the same year. His had so many more driver problems and usage problems, and the thing degraded insanely fast, whereas mine still worked as good as new 5 years later, save for one of the two pens dying on me. Upgraded to the XPPen 24 Pro, couldn't be happier. The new drivers are an absolute dream too, have barely had to fiddle with them at all.

>>4819871
G960 is ancient, choose between Deco 01v2 and HS 611 based on whether you need it's bells and whistles.

I personally don't use and express keys so I would go with 01v2

Reminder that this is the Chinese shilling general. All chink tablets have poor build quality and terrible pens, but the chinks are notorious for aggressively shilling at all costs.

Real thread: >>4811550

>>4819923
But they say both are actually quite good now.
So your experience might be outdated?

>>4819909
You can go ahead and not believe me, have fun manually pulling the plug every day. I didn't even write that script, found it online and it works like a charm.

>>4819761
Oh, right. I forgot those stuffs exists
But aren't they designed to be used with much lighter ipads though? Is it even strong enough?

>>4819774
>XP pen looks delayish on drawing
It only does that if you've got windows ink on. All tablets right now are having problems with windows ink, since Microsoft suddenly changed a lot of the way their program functions and released the update without telling anyone about it. As long as you're not using that shit on a program that doesn't need it to function, it doesn't lag.

>>4819959
Huion feels super cheap, sometimes their internals have wires crossed in a bad way or pieces that are not soldered properly, left rattling around in the tablet. Their drivers are the worst I've ever tried. My pressure curve line and dots were outside of the box theyre supposed to be in, unable to be clicked on or adjusted, just hanging out on the desktop outside of the program window. Things can get mega fucky with them and support is a total joke. There's a good reason they're called the shittiest tablet company.

how the fuck do i get used to the tablet, i feel like my brain is short circuiting every time i try to use one.

>>4820298
just use it to draw random stuffs, your brain will sort it out in less than a week
alternatively be a good goy and shell more $$$ to get a display tablet

I want to be able to take my display tablet out without lugging my big ass laptop out with it. I was thinking it might be a good idea to go for one of those mini PCs and just hook my tablet up to that, but I don't know which ones are good or not, or if they're even capable of handling a display tablet. Anyone got any suggestions?

>>4820415
>one of those mini PCs
Why the fuck
Even a big laptop is still way more portable than that shit

>>4820436
theres some pretty small pocket sized ones
>>4820415
Lenovo has quite a few
but honestly i don't know why you would do this
it may be smaller than your laptop, but you still have to plug it into a wall, and then plug your display tablet into that to get any use out of it. and its unusable without the display
so in a sense its not really as portable as you think

>>4820298
Meme as it sounds, do boxes. Boxes are a great way to get a feel for lining things up and getting your hand-eye coordination down.

>>4820436
No the tiny ones they're pocket sized now.

>>4821028
I have a big-ass heavy as fuck gaming laptop thats way too bulky to carry around and set up outside of my place comfortably. The whole thing about plugs is no issue to me, don't worry about that, I know I have to plug this shit in for it to work. There are a few places I want to go hang out and do plein air digital painting, they have electricity set up outside so I can just sit there and draw people and dogs to my hearts content. A mini pc is much more portable than my laptop that stays on for about an hour before I need to plug it in.

I appreciate the response, I'll look into Lenovo minis and see if their stuff meets the requirements for a graphics display.

>I told you man
>I told you about the Huion table stands.

My Kamvas 13 lasted for whole 11 months before slamming glass first onto the floor. Thing still works even with broken glass which is nice, just have to get used to it.
I knew this would happen with that piece of shit stand people have been complaining about, but I kinda forgot about it today with fever and all.

Its November soon thankfully and im kinda interested in xp pen 15.6 in my poorfag price range.

>>4821201
>Its November soon thankfully and im kinda interested in xp pen 15.6 in my poorfag price range.
The stand is about the same so get yourself something third party.

>>4821208
Of course it is. What were the fucking chinks thinking?
>That feel when hobbyist/starter so I cant justify for myself to spend at better stuff and just deal with chinaman tablets

Does anyone here have an Intuos Pro? I've been using an Intuos 3 for like 15 years and I'm curious about that circle on the left of the tablet.
Is it a circular touch pad? Can it be bound to canvas rotation in Photoshop?
I'm aware this can be done with the multi-touch stuff, but I usually disable multi-touch in things that have it.

>>4821244
Pic for reference

>>4821208
Pablo coast tablet stand

>>4821244
yes it's a circular touch thingy you can set to rotate your canvas and resize your brush.

It's useful for Photoshop and nothing else because every non-retarded program already has a very convenient brush resizing feature.

>>4821273
No idea what you're complaining about, but great. I have a button bound to R to rotate the canvas on my tablet, but being able to do it all with my left hand sounds great.

>>4821293
The problem is resizing the brush, you either have to reach to the wrong side of the keyboard for the [] keys or struggle with their terrific mplementation of gesture scaling.

>>4821316
Or just right click. This sounds like a you problem.

>>4811607

Just had an idea as I'm pooping. I wonder if combining a screenless tablet with a cheap touchscreen monitor is a good alternative if you're really poor. Using a monitor arm you can place the screen pretty much in any angle.

with a proper setup it might work and actually feels comfortable.

aaand here comes the poop.

>>4821201
Elaborate pls
Which part exactly got broken and what angle it was set up at?

>>4821138
>fits in your pocket
Are you talking about a rasp3.14? Cause I'm pretty sure thats a bad idea.
>>4821238
>>4821208
Parblo/Artisul anon is right. Their stand is pretty solid compared to the freebie ones.

>>4815887
it arrived today and i like it a lot! it's the only display tablet i've ever used, so i don't have any grounds to base this on, and on top of that i'm not a very good artist, so my standards probably aren't as high as some people, but i think the artist pro 15.6 is pretty good. especially considering its price compared to other display tablets.

xp pen 15.6 pro or cintiq 16?

>>4821785
Or you just use a screenless tablet. They work just as well and can create the exact same art for a 20th of the price. Its your skill that matters.

>>4821785
>if you're really poor
>using a monitor arm
why
what'ts the point of the touchscreen monitor even?

>>4822687
too late. got the xp pen

this is legit the worst thread on the whole board. It's just buyfags, I really would like to see your work. If you're good at drawing, you can draw 90% of shit on a 50$ tablet, simple as.

>>4823694
I draw dragon/dragon vore. Do you really want to see that?

>>4823694
Very true. People should only really have to visit these threads once. The reason this one exists is because the other is hosted by a non- artist who wants others to avoid said $50 dollar tablets because chinabad, and that they should instead send money to apple and wacom.

>>4823694
Oh no! I stepped into a thread I don't like! :0

>>4823706
That post is in both threads. He does this at least once a day trying to stir up shit. Ignore and move on.

>>4823724
motherfucker I opened it first time today and only out of pure interest. And what I saw is a tumor, something that reflects the rest of 4chan so much, where you just jerk off around irrelevant things. Soon these threads and similar will overcome this board, because you're not here to draw, you're here to slack off.

>>4823734
>Soon these threads and similar will overcome this board,
it has already begun >>>>>4817464

>>4823734
Liar liar pantsu on fire ;)

>>4823694
honest recommendations is better than eternal insufferable crabbing and autism thats worste than the worst generals in /jp/

New non-Chinese shill thread:

>>4823983
>>4823983
>>4823983
>>4823983

>>4823706
>and that they should instead send money to apple and wacom
By recommending people purchase used products? Which don't give any money to Apple or Wacom at all?

You were already BTFO on this matter hard in the real thread, and now you're just further exposing your idiocy here in your Chinese hugbox. Just admit you're desperate to shill Huion garbage.

>>4823734
says the guy who is slacking off by bitching about it....

>>4823990
easy there shilly mcshillster, you need to slow down on the shilling

>>4823994
>>4823990
>H-heh, I buy h-handmedowns! Thatll show em!

Seethe, cope, dilate. These threads are for artists who need equipment, not toys.

>>4823694
There's plenty of works being posted in the past threads though. But i guess people just don't do it anymore because it only leads to shitposting and derailments
Besides, this is literally a buyfag thread. What exactly are you expecting to see?

Thoughts on samsung tablets compared to ipad for drawing?
Just as good? Can they run SAI?

>>4824510
Not answering your question in the chink shill thread, Chang.
Probably just a filler question to bump your thread anyway.

>>4824510
Does SAI even exists on ipad

I saw someone else make a post about the XP-Pen Artist 24 Pro the other day and I figured I might as well chip in with some thoughts of my own.
I've never owned or even seen a Cintiq irl so I don't really have anything to compare it to, but first impressions are really good, the thing looks and feels like it's well-made.
However, there were a few things I noticed once i started using it that might give prospective buyers something to think about

>There was some weird flickering of certain pixels when I first powered the thing on.
It looked like dead pixels but it's not that since they work now and the problem only appeared on the first startup

>Pen Pressure was wonky for light pressure after a long drawing session
During that first day, towards the end, the pen pressure started to be wonky where it would not detect light pressure. This seemed to be more of a problem with CSP though since pen pressure was detected correctly by the driver, and also when I re-calibrated it the pressure was fine.

>The drawing surface texture is kinda smooth.
I only have an Ipad with a paperlike to compare it to, but the paperlike is much rougher and nicer in that regard. The XP-Pen isn't bad though, just feels different, and I imagine Cintiqs have a rougher surface too?

>When doing very, very light strokes, the line might "skip" since it stops detecting pressure

>Colours seem to be accurate, but not vibrant
I don't know if this is a thing on other drawing tablets too, but the colours look kinda washed out when I compare it to my Ipad or my monitor, both of which are very colour accurate.

Other than these issues above that I experienced once or twice so far it seems pretty good. Buttons and the scroll wheels feel solid, and the rest of the tablet doesn't creak or otherwise feel like shit. I definitely expected much worse before I received it since people keep saying that anything but Wacom is actual dogshit. Shows how much you should trust a certain poster in this thread :^)

>>4824848
Sounds like you need to calibrate the tuning screw in your stylus. I had the same issues with my 15.6 pro until I messed with the screw.

>>4824848
Yeah, colour accuracy is sadly the biggest compromise when buying more affordable display tablets. I returned my xp pen 15.6 pro and went back to my H610 V2. I guess Ill just wait until tech improves enough or eventually splash out for the cintique pros. I feel that unless you buy the top of the line displays, you're always gonna have to compromise one or two important qualities

>>4823990
This one hasn't even hit bump limit yet. Have fun shitposting in your containment thread.

Does anyone here use an arm mount for their display tablets?
The thought of being able to draw vertically sounds really neat to me, but also worries me a lot since these things are way heavier compared to regular monitors

>>4824984
Afaik specialised arms for these things are sold by wacom, I dont know if others sell them though. Theres no chance in hell a wacom arm would work for anything other than a wacom tablet in any case

>>4824989
ok nvm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uqb_uugqr0

>>4824984
I've been using this with my GT-191 and it's been holding up nicely: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0855DJXYM/

>>4824984
The mounts are really sturdy so as long as everything is set up properly and secured you've got nothing to worry about. Also you just need to make sure that the VESA mount you choose is capable of holding more weight than you need it to if you're really that worried about it. Again, as long as you account for more than the weight of the tablet and set it up properly you'll be fine. Go for it!

Deco 01v2 vs HS 611. Which one should I get?

>>4825005
Ah, that's pretty cool. I'm actually planning to get a very similar tablet lmao
Do you mind showing how you set up yours btw?

>>4825015
>>4824998
Thank you, frens

>>4825042
To be brutally honest, there wont be any noticeable difference in performance. I think the decos have a slightly more paperlike texture. Other than that, just get the one that has the express keys you need.

>>4825042
If youre left handed do not get the HS611, rotating it requires shutting off the touch keys and touch bar or else your arm will set it off all the time and fuck up your shit. Otherwise just go with what you like.

>>4825051
>Do you mind showing how you set up yours btw?
Sure, here's it raised.

>>4825217
And here's it in use.

>>4825217
>>4825224
Sweet, thanks a bunch

>>4824622
I dont believe there's an app for use on mobile tablets anyway

>>4823990
kys

>>4825224
>>4825217
>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0855DJXYM/
yo, why your huion upside down?

>>4824859
>Returning the tablet instead of color calibrating it yourself
Do people seriously do this?

>>4824989
They're just normal monitor arms. I have a cintiq 16 jerry rigged onto an Amazon arm. The only issue was cintiq tries to jew you on their VESA adapter plate, so I just bought my own plate and use some nuts and screws I had to mount it. Cost a fraction of what Cintiq charges for their entire stand + VESA plate DLC

>>4825817
Yep, used the spyder 5 pro calibrator on it. Did change the colours but still didnt match my IPS monitor, despite using an identical profile. I could watch the pics become washed out when I dragged it towards the display tablet. It wasnt major, but enough to drive me fucking crazy so I returned it.

What do you think about the cintiq 13hd?. I want the 22hd but i didn't find anyone selling one in my shithole and buying it online is a problem due shipping costs. The only screen tablets that are available here are cintiq13hd and huion kamvas pro 22.
I use a wacom intuos small and its really cool but i want something for drawing a little bit faster since I'm learning 2d animation. I want something durable since I'm poorfag and i can't afford buying tablets frequently.

>>4825909
I have one. It's good, the cables are a fucking mess though. Make sure you have the proper adapters/ports. I had to get a USB hub and a mini or micro HDMI adapter to make it work with my laptop.

>>4825897
Oh your issue was with the shit contrast ratio. I'm so glad they're doing better with that shit now in the new models. I can excuse a monitor not having the widest range of colors but bad contrast ratio will fuck everything up royally.

>>4825911
Can i draw with my arm or elbow with it?, it should be possible right? I saw some people saying that you need at least 22 for that but I'm not sure.

>>4825921
If i can draw with my shoulder and elbow on an intuos pro medium that has the active area of an A4 piece of paper, you can do it on a bigger tablet dude. No it does not have to be 22". If youre looking at display tablets the lowest you should ever go is 16"

>>4825931
The cintiq 16 is good?, i just found a new one on a local store. I found a lot of used 13hd and my idea was to search some used one due the price.

There's basically no reason for me to NOT get a Deco Pro as a beg, right?

Is Cintiq 16 any good?

>>4826077
Not really. Tis a solid tablet and more than good enough to suit your needs.

>>4826077
as long as youre buying a tablet that fits your budget, it doesnt really matter what you buy.

Pull the trigger on XP-pen 22R / wait for Huion Kamvas 22+?

>>4826387
Get the 22R or the 24 Pro. Huion is so iffy you never know if youre gonna get trash or good shit, better to wait for reviews to pop up with them.

rip wacom

>>4826416
OH NO NO NO NO!!!!!
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN WACOMBROS??!?! I THOUGHT WE'RE INDUSTRY STANDARD????

>>4826416
He had some drivers problems, bad usb port and a broken stylus. They are some really shit problems for sure, but that applies for all brands right? I know people who broke their stylus no matter if it was huion, xp-pen or wacom, the same with the usb port and the drivers. I'm starting to think that drawing tablets are the most fragile hardware ever.

>>4811879
Thought this was a trad shitpost for a second

>>4826416
he's gonna replace his chinkshit with a wacom

>>4826552
>but that applies for all brands right?
Yeah, but the other brands also don't sell their stuffs as premium products with exorbitant prices

>>4825813
You can change the tablet's orientation in-software. One thing I hate about the GT-191 is that the I/O placement is situated facing you. So if you use it as intended, you're gonna be bending a lot of wires, and risk damaging the tablet.

I'm currently trying to decide between a Cintiq 16 or a Kamvas 22 Pro. I feel like I know the pros and cons with reputation and size but is there anything else really noteworthy to help me choose?

>>4826561
No. You mighz think wacom is high quality because (like me) you have older products of theirs, but anything produced in the last couple of years is basicly chinkshit for a Premium price.

I honestly think wacom products were too good for their own good back in the day. You can still use intuos 3 tablets as if thry were new and they were produced in like 2006. Similar situation for the old cintiqs, but the display technology got better a little to even that out.

i have saved up $500

should i get wacom ONE or huion?

>>4826938
New Wacom is ass, get a used wacom or chinkbrand

>>4826724
>current wacom is garbage
>old wacoms are good, but aging hardware + discontinued spareparts and support means you're fucked if you decide to get one
>chink is chink

Truly this is a shit time to be a digital artist

>>4827512
Why? Its the exact opposite. Digital artists now have the option to not get their pants pulled down. Wacoms patents have all expired, the tech is widespread and the competition is fucking over wacoms monopoly, lowering the prices. You can now buy a medium sized pro drawing tablet for a 6th of the price that it used to. Itll force wacom to get their shit together or sink. I welcome either result, since corporate complacency brought about by comfort has to be punished at any opportunity.

>>4827524
>Wacoms patents have all expired, the tech is widespread and the competition is fucking over wacoms monopoly, lowering the prices
Why didn't they extend their patents? I don't need them to lower their prices, I'm willing to pay premium if that means i'm actually getting good stuffs

>>4827577
you can't extend a patent, also if a company has a monopoly you're not actually getting the best stuff cause they give you what they want as there is no pressure to deliver great product, also because there is no competition because of monopoly you don't have anything to gauge if the product is the best it can be. Finally the premium you're are paying for "good stuff" is like 2 to 3 times markup.

>>4827577
I think you're misinterpreting their pricing, they werent expensive because of the quality, they were expensive because they held the keys to the important tech and thus were the only option and they knew it. This has become abundantly clear now that we see tablets with the same build quality, reliability and technology going for a 6th of the price. Tablets are actually very basic bits of equipment and wont be expensive to manufacture at all. Thats why they can be sold at a 6th of the price and still make a profit. Wacom has built their revenue models and predictions off of their product prices, which have been on a premium high for the last 3 decades. This means that their entire company, wages, stakeholder predictions, dividends etc have all been built around their prices, meaning they dont really want to cut back and try to be more competitive with cost leadership, rather they want to go the apple way of riding on their name for as long as possible to get every last penny they can. Surefire way of highlighting just how boomer their execs are.

>>4827524
The problem is the only competition is chink garbage you stupid dirty insect. If there were competition to Wacom that wasn't a shitty Chinese company, people would be interested.

By the way, the real non-chinese /dtg/ is here:

>>4823983
>>4823983
>>4823983

Chinkshills need not apply.

>>4827628
Autismspeaks.org

I was planning to get a screen tab that uses USB C instead of HDMI when i realized that my laptop doesn't have a USB C port

Can I just use a USB C-to-A adapter and call it a day? or will it not work since apparently USB C and A are completely different type of connections? Help a brainlet out

i got a xp deco 01 v2 and i have to use quite a bit of pressure to draw with tablet.
can't draw on it lightly/my normal way because it won't show any lines on the screen. this doesn't change no matter how i much i adjust the pen press sensitivity curve.
does the deco pro fix this issue?

>>4827842
Yes, a settings panel will have been installed alongside with the driver onto your pc. Open that and you can adjust the pressure sensitivity.

>>4827842
Nope, that's just something you get used to.

Currently all Xp-Pen pens require a little bit of pressure before they start detecting anything at all and then the pressure curve applies.

They have some pen to pen variability that is related to the tuning rheostat inside the pen.
If your pen requires too much initial force to activate or the opposite detects a spike right after that minimal threshold it can be tweaked by this little screw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC3ZHroezM0
It can be accessed without disassembly by just popping the rocker button out of the pen. You don't need to disassemble it entirely, just pop the button out with a tiny screwdriver like they use for glasses.

>>4827777
It's not going to work.
But some of the latest tablets come with a hydra cable that all three power, usb and HDMI into one usb-C

>sell $500 innovator 16 for weeks
>suddenly offer a $400 innovator 16 option
JUST

Someone here have the cintiq 16?, what is you opinion about it? I found one that cost 900$ It worth the price?

>>4828028
thanks, i was able to adjust that tiny screw in the video and make the pen a bit more sensitive.
but the problem with me having to press down a bit harder than my old intuos is still present.
couldn't adjust it too much or else the pen will start acting up.
at least the drawing space is a lot bigger than the old intuos.

xp pen 15.6 pro or kamvas pro 16?

>>4828131
what do you mean suddenly?

xp-pen has been selling it for $399 for a couple of weeks now because of the 15th anniversary thing.

Transitioned from normal screenless tablet to screen tablet, will never look back again. I wonder why I wasted 2 years of my life struggling to sketch anything nice on a screenless tablet when I can already draw alright on paper. Screened tablet makes thing so much simpler for me.

XP-Pen 15.6 Pro btw.

>>4828582
They are nearly identical except
>Xp has a rotating dial
>Kamvas has etched glass
>Kamvas also have a premium edition with a better panel.

>>4811607
Anyone have any experience with Artisul? Their med pro tablet looks like sex

>>4828628
>xp-pen has been selling it for $399 for a couple of weeks now because of the 15th anniversary thing.
on their website.
the deal just became available on amazon.

What do you guys think about stuffs like iPad mini or Samsung 8 inchers? Thought it'd be pretty cool to have a sketchpad that fits in my pocket but isn't as tiny as phones either

>>4813576
screenless tablets are better, cheaper and less parts that can go bad over time

>>4827600
You actually can extend patents, wacom has done it many times. However, every time you want to extend a patent, you have to ask the FCC to pretty please let you have it, and they can and will say no to that.

>>4828164
it's worth $600, not $900.

Very solid given the brand and price range.
Had mine since March 2019. Drivers are somewhat of fucked though.

>>4830285
>Drivers are somewhat of fucked though
???

Alright which one of you niggers claimed that Infinite Painter is the best drawing app on android back then? i tried it and it's SHIT, the lag is so awful that even the clusterfuck that is Krita still feels more comfortable to use than this. It already went full minimalsitic UI but the performance is not even close to the likes of Ibis or Medibang

>>4830457

what's a good free one?

>>4830483
Out of the ones i tried, Ibis/Medibang seems to be the overall best. Technically Ibis got more features, but i really hate that the free version got a huge banner ad covering my already small workspace

>>4829244

>>4830985
Read the thread. Anything under 16inches is too small.

>>4811607
After all the digging and sifting through hundreds of amazon reviews, artist reviews, reviewer reviews and forum posts, Ive concluded that display tablets are just unreliable bits of technology in this day and age. The only line of tablets that have extremely few complaints are the giant pro cintiq lines for studios, going for the price of a second hand car. Every tablet underneath those all have contradicting reviews from all kinds of sources. For instance, Ive read several reviews stating that the colours on the Kamvas pro 2019 are good, then the very user reviews on amazon say its biggest weakness are its colours. Or how forum posts say that wacom cintiqs are the way to go for their reliability but the posts from the very same forum say that the drivers crash all the time and cause mayhem.

One reviewer says that the cintiq 16 has a higher quality display than the kamvas 20 pro with better colours, and in the next article I read, the kamvas 20 pro is listed as a better buy for the superior colours. I have no idea what to believe, and the only real remedy is to just buy the most expensive one and tell myself thats going to be the best I can get in 2020. I just want a tablet which has as high quality display (colours, contrast ratio) as my IPS display.

>>4830985
Nobody cares about the mobile shit.

>>4831532
I mean, look at this bullshit.

http://forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?t=2469

The wacom representative literally outlines that if you want actual functionality (accurate display should be considered basic functionality for a display drawing tablet) you should go for the pro line rather than the ordinary ones. They make the cheaper ones actually worse, rather than just not being as high tech but still usable, such as a smaller screen resolution.

>>4831559
Well duh, what do you fucking think?
If the studios and professionals stopped buying the 3000$ Pro ones wacom is fucking dead.

>>4831532
Just go to a big electronic center or an anime con and try them out desu. Alternatively get some IRL drawfriends that have the devices you want, i think most of then won't mind giving you a test run or two

>>4828028
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC3ZHroezM0
can you use this to turn off the tilt recognition too?

>>4831730
Cool, you can't do that everywhere. While there are sold in some places there's 0 on display in my country, I've looked and asked.

>>4833384
No. There's no way to shut off tilt recognition in XP-Pen drivers short of programming that yourself. The video you linked has to do with the tuning screw and fixing hardware problems. Turning features on and off is a software problem

>>4811607
Is there a XP-PEN tablet with similar working area size as the Wacom Intuos Small (152mm x 95mm)?
I'm fed up with the shitty unstable Wacom drivers.

>>4834527
>I'm fed up with the shitty unstable Wacom drivers.
this. aren't there any custom drivers or something? wacom drivers are unsigned and my shitty windows doesn't wanna install the drivers.
also apparently they spy on you.

>>4834527
They recently launched their Deco mini 7 and mini 4 those are a small and an even smaller tablets. No idea why though, maybe for digital signatures and dwarves.

Actually i'd recommend you get the Deco 01, it's the medium size, and is a much better tablet than your bamboo and i personally never had an issue with the drivers.

>>4834261
I mean if it's able to tune the pressure sensitivity up and down it's not too far fetched to think that it can do the same with tilt sensitivity

>>4834527
>>4834545
The hawku driver can be used for drawing.
The bad news is that it uses Windows Ink, and some apps like Paint Tool Sai don't use it.
It works with CSP tho.

Is there a "right" time to upgrade from a screenless tablet to a screen one? Been using a Huion H610 Pro for 3+ years now and never had a problem (commission artist and I draw almost everyday), so I'm really hesitant to buy a screen tablet, but at the same time I might be losing a potential skill improvement if that makes any sense. Thanks for insight

>>4836182
>and some apps like Paint Tool Sai don't use it
Fucking retarded SAI babies can't even flick a setting.

>>4837266
I'm in the same boat, anon. Hell, I even have the same screenless tablet. I've been watching a lot of Huion and XP-Pen display reviews and everything is pointing towards at least buying a 16 inch display tablet to give it a try. This stuff with Corona really screwed up the prices for older 'safer' Wacom tablets due to price gouging, but as build quality goes, the newer Wacom tablets you're just paying for the name, so the cheaper competitors can legit compete. That said, I didn't have any real problems with my old Huion tablet, so I could see myself buying up to a 24 inch display tablet from XP.

>>4837266
Honestly, whenever you want to. If you know you're going to use it a lot then do it. I think the only time people should wait to think about it is when they're just starting out and don't know if they're going to continue on with art or not.

>>4837483
Xp Pen is good shit man. Just make sure you learn about the tuning screw in the stylus in case you get one that's been fucked on tuning.

>>4837266
>>4837483

I had a bamboo for about 6 years before I got a small display from XP. I ended up getting a larger screenless from them and recently treated myself to their 24inch.

The best time to go for a display is honestly whenever you want you. Whenever you feel like learning something new.

>>4811607
What an insufferable faggot. Funny how when a non wacom tablet has far superior specs than the same range wacom tablet, ALL OF A SUDDEN, specs are "bells and whistles" and its the """drawing experience thats more important""""

>has all comments disabled

Instant red flag

>>4838167
>Wacom tablet
>Non laminated screen
I think this counts as specs and really fucks up the entire experience
>Srgb color space
That is also shit, calibrated to represent exactly the worst monitors on the market. Hell I'm not even sure if they still make monitors so bad even for schools and office.
>Non adjustible kickstand
It's only there to make you suffer

Cintiq Pleb is a fucking joke toy and not a product. It's designed to let you try drawing and then you immediately need a Cintiq Pro because Cintiq Pleb is a piece of shit.

>>4838167
>Funny how when a non wacom tablet has far superior specs than the same range wacom tablet, ALL OF A SUDDEN, specs are "bells and whistles" and its the """drawing experience thats more important""""

That's the entirety of any of his non-Wacom reviews. The guy is a fucking disgusting shill of the worst kind. I watched his XP-Pen 24 review and this guy literally went back and found an older Wacom tablet to compare it to, since it beats the Cintiq in price-point, when that is entirely the point of buying a competing brand.

>>4838254
Cintiq 22 is inferior to the older Cintiq Pros.

>>4837266
>I might be losing a potential skill improvement
All a screen tablet does is make you adapt to digital faster, that's literally it. You're not gonna miss anything if you already draw digitally

For those who have bought stuff off Xp-pen or Huion's site I heard that both companies provide a lot of discounts to use at check-out, but between the two, for the anon's who have experience, who generally gives the best deals? I'm looking for a 22-24 display tablet

I heard good things about the Artist 22r Pro, but other than size, how much better is 24 pro by comparison? Also, the same with the Kamvas 22 Series vs the Kamvas Pro 24.

I started off with a medium Wacom Intuos Pro, which I've been using for the last 3 years, until it died on me last week. I wanted to get a Cintiq Pro, but it's so far out of my budget I can't even buy it with credit.

>>4840487
>Also, the same with the Kamvas 22 Series vs the Kamvas Pro 24
Apparently the 24 has worse parallax, or atleast according to this dude https://youtube.com/watch?v=kEQzdF0cOmg

>>4840487
I have the Xp24 and its not bad. I don't have a smaller model to compare the resolution to but it seems good to me, no pixel issues or anything.

I used a discount code cause fuck paying full price. It didn't take and when I contacted customer service I got a quick refund of the coupon differences so I've had a pretty good experience all around.

>>4840529
>Apparently the 24 has worse parallax,

the fuck huion? i've always had good experiences with their screenless tablets. i'm guessing xp-pen has them edged out on the display tablets.

>>4840564
which discount code did you use? you don't have to post it here, just the discount amount. i can go find the code myself. also, i see that xp-pen is selling he xp24 for $719 for their anniversary sale. did you purchase yours during the sale and got them to stack the discount code on top?

>>4840566
To their defense, the 22 one looks hella fine though

New non-chinese thread:

>>4842182
>>4842182
>>4842182

New non-chinese thread:

>>4842193
>>4842193
>>4842193

>>4842201
For reference

>>4842201
good stay in your containment thread shill

>>4842201
take your meds.

bunch of huion's stuffs are suddenly on sale outta nowhere, what gives?

>>4844190
End of summer/back to school sales. They end mid september.

Not really a question about tablets, but related.
I have both an ipad pro and an intuos draw medium. I've been using the ipad less and less because of back and neck pains. So I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong, are there any exercises or stretches I should be doing? Or any recommended way I should be sitting the ipad down on my desk or lap to draw?

>>4844219
do you use the ipad with a stand?

>>4844232
I do have one of these, I'm just paranoid of it falling over.

>>4844239
but to answer your question, I don't use it very often. I tend to draw in my lap, propping my feet up on the bed from the chair.

>>4844239
so you don't use a stand at all and just draw with it flat on the desk?
they have some cheap bigger sized stands on amazon

>>4844245
I was going to start drawing with it flat on the desk.

>>4844219
>I've been using the ipad less and less because of back and neck pains.
IMO that's a pretty common thing with all screen tablets, since the sitting position these devices forced you in would strain yor back and your neck. I personally find lying down is the comfiest position to draw in these things so far, with my neck on the armrest/some pillows and the tab on my lap
I think you're gonna need a stand/arm/some other ways to prop your tablet up like normal monitor if you wanna draw on it while sitting

>>4844456
In that case, what's a good laptop to draw on? I'm not a fan of touch screen. I had a macbook for less than a week before I returned it and the screen for csp was just super cluttered. Only left me a third of the screen for drawing with the options up. I tried the thing where you make the other tabs minimize, but the canvas never grew to replace the missing space.

>>4844470
Why do you even want a laptop?
Get a fucking desktop and a comfy reclining chair.

>>4844485
good point

>>4844470
I dunno man, any laptop that has a screen big enough to make CSP not feel cluttered probably won't feel comfortable to sit on your lap

>>4826561
pyw

still waiting nigger

>>4826552
>but that applies for all brands right?
Xp and the latest huion all use Usb-C so that doesn't apply.
And I haven't had a driver issue with my XP either.

I had one pen fuck up after dropping a couple times but it was probably a tuning screw issue.
When I got my Deco-Pro I was displeased that the pressure was jumping from zero to 10% instantly. Then i discovered about the tuning screw and tweaked it to taper on and off perfectly.

There's literally nothing wrong with mini/micro USB. How the fuck do you niggers even manage to break it? My old intuos mini that i use very roughly (frequently plugged/unplugged, carried around through hot weather and rains, stored in a bag that i regularly slept on, etc) is stil going strong to this day
I admit the original cable did get fucked pretty quickly, but the port itself is still working fine even after going through another 2-3 different cables

>>4845575
they are shit. Most of minis are loose by default and would lose connection from a loud fart.

A tablet isn't like a phone and you don't plug it in and out daily to charge but I wouldn't trust the fucking thing either way.

S7+ vs IPAD PRO
where can I find a decent comparison between the pen to screen experience?
so far all youtube videos are too generic made by non artists

>>4845616
I think brad shillbow made a video on it recently. He's a chronic applefag though, so i'd take whatever he's saying with a grain of salt

>>4845616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsKL0qYV-aw
dude draws like shit but he's very insightful. As the video says he'll soon do a comparison video against the ipad pro, so we just have to wait

>>4845602
They're alright, just don't yank them too hard when unplugging or move them around too much when they're plugged in

Tablet reccs? Honestly I just wanna draw in bed, so I'm looking for the most bang-for-buck option

>Budget
Anything $300 and below
>Location
US
>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
Portable display
>Size (in inches)
15-24 inches
So long as it's not fuck huge
>Other information
Don't care if it's samsung or apple. If it's got good programs and pen then I'm sold.
>Previous equipment
Switching from an XP-Pen Artist 12. It's nice but it kills my back using it, plus my desk is just too small to draw comfortably.

>>4828164
900$? Dude I bought mine for 600$. The tablet is good, the size is enough for me. Though some days the screen flickers randomly so bad that I can't do anything about it. Usually it resolves itself when I leave it be for an hour or two but it's mildly annoying especially if I'm in a mood to draw.

>>4848902
>$300
>Portable display
Brehs I don't think you can get android/ipads for $300, except maybe for second hand ones (much less 15"+, since afaik even the most advanced portable tabs maxes out at 13")

>>4811607
Just ordered the kamvas 22 plus. 140% adobe rgb gamut. They're sold out everywhere here in europe, gotta wait until the 14th

>>4849213
I still can't decide if I get that or a Cintiq 16. I'm still kinda wary of Huion since I'd have to order from Amazon and last time I tried that I got a knockoff instead.

>>4849312
If you order from amazon you can return it anyway regardless of anything within an enormous timeframe. But what dyou mean with knockoff? Was it an offbrand copy?

Also, if youre going for wacom, I wouldnt advise getting any of their non pro tablets. They purposefully make them far inferior and not just in basic but workable factors such as lower screen res, but also in display quality. The wacom 16 has 72% rgb. If you only do sketching and linework then that doesnt matter, but if you plan to colour anything then unless you want to keep moving your picture to your main display to see what you're actually painting each time, the 16 isnt a good choice. After line quality, colour accuracy and good contrast ratio are the most important characteristics of a display, and one that is strangely undervalued by most reviewers.

http://forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?t=2469

>>4840564
>>4837524
>>4837483

thanks for the responses anons. i went ahead and pulled the trigger on an Xp-pen Artist 24 pro. for those anons in the us, how fast does xp-pen usually ship here?

is xp pen artist 12 pro decent display tablet for beginner?

>>4849404
I would suggest at least 16 inches of screen, otherwise everything will be somewhat cramped and youll have to draw with your wrist.

>using the chinkshill thread

Move to the non-chink thread: >>4842193

>>4849580
i will, once i'm in the mood to shitpost

>>4849580
Gotten much better advice here. Plus, all you do is spam bullshit and never post your art. Im amazed you havent been banned yet, this place really has zero moderation.

>>4849622
Nobody cares your shilling you disgusting chink rat.

>>4849626
>anyone who disagrees with me is a shill
>anyone who wants something other than I want is a shill
>anyone who supports something I dont is a shill
>anyone who does something I dont like is a shill

Holy mental illness. Fuck off to pol or x or whatever shitpile you squirmed out of.

>>4811607

I'm currently using a Cintiq 21UX, is making the switch to a Cintiq 22HD worth it?

Seems like the only benefit is just a bit more room and a normal screen aspect ratio. Is pen responsiveness better? Is there something else I'm missing here?

>>4811607
New thread is up

>>4849658
>>4849658