/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I heard Iterative Drawing was pretty good.

Nobody knows because nobody is going to conduct a half way decent study about the fastest way to improve in drawing, and all claims towards an efficient method are born of anecdotal observation, selection bias, stupid sample sizes and snake oil advertising material.

>>4801456
Based high iq anon

>>4801456
Damn

>>4801449
both works, as long as you're drawing. but some stuff take more than 5 minutes, like learning how to finish a painting or first time applying perspective guidelines +others

>>4801456
I bet your fun at parties.

>>4801482
*you’re

Doing that method helped me improve faster, I "failed faster" and was able to make more mistakes to learn from. If you're beg you will get diminishing returns from noodling on one drawing for hours. Though it is important to make finished pieces to learn how to put what you learned together, and polish. It also helped me expand my visual library faster.

>>4801456
I'M GOING TO DO IT ANON

>>4801537
finally, an answer to the loomis dilemma

>>4801449
This dude felt the form of his Asian student's thighs. The black nigger students seethe

>>4801449
More like the fastest way to get jaded.

>>4801449
>>4795993

>>4801449
How do I practice polishing Paintings in 5 minutes

>>4801482
I'd rather have him at a party than you, r*ddit faggot.

>>4801449

Who is this?
Are his lectures good?

I can see the point, but if you draw a lot of 5 min drawings you will get really good at 5 min drawings. I am sure that there is a point where you start to getting diminished returns but 5 min is just too little.

>>4801456
Definitely not a halfway decent experiment but I have been practicing very seriously for the past few years. I am trying to master figures and portraits, mostly drawing for now and some oil paint.
I find doing both timed and untimed work to be equally useful practice. When you work with a timer you are practicing gesture mostly, no time for real details on anything in less than 10 minutes. You practice details when you work on the same piece for 8 hours or more.
When you aren't drawing, reflect on your progress. Compare your art over time. Obviously this sounds super basic but part of the process of mastering anything is becoming efficient at pracicting. It's like a gradient ascenf problem in math terms, you stand somewhere on the slope of skill and you are trying to find a path to the top as fast as possible but you can only see a short distance away.
Anyways I rarely do any practice sketches from a reference on less than a 5 minute timer, but I should. I did this self portrait in charcoal yesterday, pretty stoked in it. Took like 4-5 hours. Kind of looks like a startrek portrait because of my signature.

>>4801456
based and blackpilled

>>4802615
>When you work with a timer you are practicing gesture mostly, no time for real details on anything in less than 10 minutes
I don’t know what constitutes details for you, but you absolutely should have all of anatomy, definitely the core shadows and even reflected light down in 10 minutes, medium permitting, assuming the figure is up to about the size of your hand and not huge. Gesture is 30 seconds - 1 minute territory, everything past that is developing the figure.

>>4802644
when drawing from life, our teacher expected us to do full anatomy, shadows and highlights, on full A4 pages, in 7 minutes.
It's doable with a few weeks of practice

>>4801449
They did my Willy boy dirty. Fuck puritans.

>>4802655
Depends on the medium, like I said. Charcoal is very fast to work with and extremely easy to to build tone with, some others not as much.

>>4801449
I don't listen to sexual abusers
sorry not sorry

>>4802667
we did it with just good old regular pencils, actually.

>>4802677
Do you have any pictures? 7 minutes for an A4 graphite rendering sounds like a bad time

>>4802402
I bet you are fun at your none existent parties

>>4802955
I bet you have your fun with pencil.

>>4802557
Will Weston. Good if you ask me, but I am more interested in his cartooning personally.
https://online-courses.club/?s=Weston
and here is his whole IG gallery in zip files if you want to download it
https://mega.nz/folder/ubBGBALD#7Kk_qyEfH0Wl-GkS22cwiQ

>>4804541
>Furfag
Of fucking course

>>4804584
I pick pictures on random anon, but now that you mention it, I actually found more of anthro stuff.

>>4801449
>What's the fastest way to improve?
Drawing. You just fucking quoted him saying that.
His point is that when you stop to think about what you are drawing you are wasting time that could otherwise be spent drawing aka improving. Ergo whatever method results in the maximum pencil-on-paper time for you is the best method, he recommends 5 minute sketches because they're 0 investment and give you no time to get bored of what you're drawing.
Personally I don't entirely agree with this approach but I'm also not getting paid to teach so what the fuck do I know.

>>4804541
>>4804596
He posted a lot of his students' art on instagram so not everything in there is his work.

>>4804662
It's obvious since he teaches people, also when I wrote "his IG gallery" I meant pictures and videos from his IG account and not that everything there is his.

>>4801456
obviously nobody knows knows, but if a bunch of figures with authority say the same shit, they're more than less likely to be correct.

>>4804845
a bunch of authority figures don’t say the same shit, you just have different bunches saying different things, hence threads like this every week

Feng zhu said rather than doing a bunch of 10 minute drawings, to do one 10 hour drawing, so i will go with his observation. students tend to focus too much on speed and speedpainting

>>4804855
if you're an illustrator/concept with a heavy semi-near realism go to Feng, if you're an animator or a cartoonist who is leaning toward stylization go to Weston. If you want to have both where the Mangaka approach with semi-realism but also stylized in an angle then you have to study both, and also look into Murata.

If it's about the human figure than yes. A hour long session of 5' sketches of different poses drawing from a live model will teach you way more than spending those same two hours obsessing over a single piece.

>>4801449
>What's the fastest way to improve?
complete your pieces, ask for critiques, study the weak points of your drawing, do it all over again
eventually, you will gain speed and proficiency at your craft.

>>4801449
>watch his course
>this is pretty good, nice drawings
>and you see this muscle here...
>camera suddenly switches to side view
Most infuriating thing about them desu. Whoever did the camera work needs to be replaced

>>4805501
What should I look specifically when looking into Murata?

>>4805501
Murata-pill me bro