/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Jesus tempted in the desert

>>4794876
What a weird way to portray me, the snake was a one off thing

>>4794893
You’ll still eat dust and defeat forever.
GOD ALWAYS WINS.

Drew some loomis heads at work

>>4794596
1. The placement of the features is mostly right, but the eyes don't match the perspective of the brow ridge and the rest of the face.
2. The jaw has a sharper angle and the ear sits on the lower part of the cranium, not the neck.
3. You're symbol drawing the eyes. Imagine the eyeball inside the eye socket, with the eyelids following the form of the eyeball.
4. The mouth is a symbol too. The lips follow the round form of the jaw. I haven't read Loomis, but Hampton uses the mouth sphere to place the lips.
I've been following you since day 11, and you improved a lot in terms of proportion and feature placement, but you're still symbol drawing. Hampton helped me with drawing faces, so I recommend his book.

>>4790560
day 4! I'd love some quick crit! I used a variety of references and I think it looks... more normal now at least.

Any crit is appreciated. I know it needs some darker values on the nose/ more edges but I'm happy that I could hit that kind of soft shading.

>>4795107
no point in critiquing such an early wip

>>4794873
Muh sketch

>>4795170
Muh render

>>4795171
Nothing particularly bad, just try to improve everything. Nice reflections on the metal.

Which one of these has better proportions? I am experimenting with different sizes but I feel they are wrong.

I will draw over some reference photos after this.

>>4795171
Is that a beer hat? She puts those straws into a mug of beer and then sips right?

>>4795193
The one on the far right looks the most balanced to me.

>>4795122
it's not a wip, it's a daily portrait thing. I do one a day, not adding anything to it. So please give some kind of crit to fix?

how the fuck do I learn anatomy? i can't seem to apply any of it

>>4795215
try a different looking face

>>4795224
How are you trying to learn it now?

>>4795200
no. beer is for fags. there are no straws. thats her hair and wires connected to electrodes on her forehead.

y0 was fun, had some fun doing some quick sketches with some uncle loomis

sketch I did a while back. I feel like I've gotten worse since I don't have as much patience for drawing nowadays

>>4795242
eyes are great
hands are fucked

>>4795233
based and majimapilled, only standout problem is with the hair on the left being out of proportion. maybe too much forehead on right boss man too.

>>4795242
your hands aren't that bad, just add a few more shapes. and fix the bubble knuckle on the left hand. eyes are too small for the head, zoom out and squint, you'll see it. don't skimp out on the hair, i know you can do better because the beard is really nice. great work overall, keep at it

i drew my feelings

>>4794873
>never know what to draw
>spend more time looking for reference pics than actually drawing
Seriously, if I'm not in the mood for random ass gesture drawing where can I find random ass pics of shit to draw? I typically go to /an/ or /out/ if I'm looking for animal ref pics but wish there was a "ref pic russian roulette" sort of thing for random ass iimages on the internet

Started Vilppu videos from the video course thread. Still on the drawing manual series though, so haven’t gotten into anatomy specifics yet. Is this sufficient to move on to specific body parts or should I keep practicing form and gesture for a while longer?

>>4795306
These are all pretty neat but the proportions are off for pretty much all of them. I'd do the anatomy and proportion videos and keep practicing figures with the anatomy in mind.

>>4795306
god fuck i wish i was at this level why cant i get any better AAAHHHH

>>4795307
Ugh, you’re right. I overlaid my references and they’re all off. Thanks!

>>4795309
Gesture, friend.

>>4795193
theyre all wrong. you made the same mistakes 4 times.

>every time i actually put pen to paper my brain turns off and i go onto autopilot again
>try very hard to absorb information and it just slides off my brain
might just kill myself

>>4795180
thanks anon.

>>4795226
You're supposed to aim for one specific face for the challenge.

Been trying to get better at more natural looking poses and different angles. I did these on my shitty work computer using MS paint, a mouse, and no references, so please be gentle.

tips for doing freehand ellipses? the most I can do are skinny american football degree ellipses.

What's a good method for studying muscles?

>>4795382
These look like instructional diagrams from the 90s that have been Xerox'd 100 times.

>>4795411
look at muscles

>>4795420
I guess I'll just look up some medical diagrams, then. Seems like the best option to me.

I'm trying to better my placement of them and learn how fat typically accumulates on the body.

5min heads

>>4795428
how to shade anon?

I feel like I still don't have gesture down. Any tips on what I'm doing wrong?

>>4795435
timelaspe

>>4795435
Not sure if this helps, but I can't tell what the person is doing in any of those. Top right, I thought they were swimming. Top left, are they running? Tipping backwards? Try to communicate their weight and center of gravity.

>>4795432
presure control having in mind shape
or something like that i guess

>>4795435
im beg but seems like you'r looking to much at countours, ditch that for gesture
for helping maybe study bones

>>4795428
>>4795432
Try shading simple objects first. Set up a light and get a good range of values and draw the object as close as you can get. With enough practice you'll be able to break down complex forms into simple shapes...and all those studies you did? They'll help you figure out the values!

>>4795435
>>4795436
Really cool, love the flow in these. I would say push the simplicity and flow even more. Simplify some subtle curves and really exaggerate others. Get the shape of the head in there! Break it down to just the nose/ear/hair bun, whatever sticks out...and use it! Some of the lines are getting a little too similar, try to keep one more of a curve and break and bend the other to make them different.

>>4795501
Oh yeah, and the heel. Get them in there and your foot shapes will look a little better.

>>4795107
womp womp

>>4795468
kk i appreciate the guidence
i was trying to look at the light/shadow because these references have some kinda high contrast in light like the top right heres the ref

>>4795529
There are like three different light sources competing in this photo. I'd look at master paintings. Caravaggio is a good one to study light from.

>>4795529
Alternatively, look up chiaroscuro portraits. The lighting on them is perfect for those starting out.

I did a mass production of two minute figures.

so you didn't even draw for 2 hours?

>>4795544
>>4795540
looking at those

Nothing but shame

>>4795501
>push the simplicity and flow even more
Can't say I fully understand what you mean by that, but judging by your lines, I can see where I mishandled my lines, which like >>4795463
said, I do feel like I keep autopiolting back to contour drawings. for shorter poses, should I focus on getting the gestures through line placement or go about it how I did in the longer poses where I actually start with the torso and pelvis? Which thanks for actually redlining, I hope it helps me figure out things for future sessions.
>>4795437
Yeah, the model was hanging off a ledge, lying on top at a tilt, because I focused more on her rather than the thing she was on, I didn't do a good job conveying that.

im gonna kill myself

>>4795774
if you kill yourself you're guaranteed ngmi don't

..

>>4795193
Why the sloped jaws?

>>4795806
Looks like a pilotredsun animation

>>4795774
ngmi if you give up early
at least finish your pieces

>>4795293
True /ic/core

>>4795799
>>4795832
this took over 2 hours its like pulling teeth

>>4795835
thats bad right

>>4794960
you have helped me a lot here so i thank you, the symbol drawing is something i am struggling with, i know the form and the planes, i have completed all of buccis lessons but i struggle with translating them onto the page, when i try wrap the mouth around it always just looks weird like its cutting into the face but i think i realise now that its sitting on a sphere, which hampton book are you referring to? is it part of the figure drawing course? again thank you for your time

Murder me with critique thanks
I know the hair is shit but it's too much effort to redo so I'll start on a new piece, likely have to use stronger shadows too

Don't know why the upload didn't work but here it is

>>4795327
Can you tell me what is it? The jaw looks fucked in every face, but why?

>>4795871
cleft lip
hands are a bit small
she appears to be wearing a parachute
teeth too big

>>4795866
>>4795871
Hi! I am a turbo /beg/ but I would like to help you, you obviously can ignore me because I am a beg but here I go
- Symbol drawing the eyes. I can notice this because I was told like 5 times in this board that I am doing that in my drawings (it is true) and they look exactly like the eyes I draw.
- Like >>4795918 said, teeth are too big, seems like it lacks the separation between the lower and the upper teeth

That is purely based on what I see "off", maybe If you see your drawing again after a couple of days you notice the same errors

>>4795306
How did you downloaded them? Do you have a premium mega account?

>>4794876
Getting those fucking jack skellington hands off me Satan I'm tired of your shit

>>4795871
Eyes shouldnt be as white as the teeth if theyre behind sunglasses. They look like theyre popping out of her head.

>>4795293
Your feelings have a fucked up shoulder

>>4795306
Everyone has short legs but they're all good

>>4795428
If that's what you draw in 5 minutes, you should spend more time. They are shit. Every part of everything needs work. No one cares how quickly you made your disaster.

Hi I am the anon that draws shitty heads again ( >>4795193). I tried to draw the base figure over two stock photos, can I get some feedback? I still get confused because some things vary from person to person. At least I THINK I know now why I was drawing the jaw like shit.

>>4796004
God I am retarded.

>>4796006
just go watch prokos video on loomis bro takes like 10 minutes just go watch it

I made a blacklight Link from post-it notes

>>4796007
Yes I know I have the playlist openen on another tab. I just wanted to try again before watching it. Be right back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EPNYWeEf1U&list=PL39135B8D190B7C97

>>4794873
rate me

>>4796006
This seems like part of your problem, sorry if it isn’t helpful.

>>4796062
Thanks you! It makes sense. I am watching the videos from Proko and oh god I was doing EVERYTHING WRONG. At least I understand now, hope I can apply that new knowledge

>>4796011
Too awesome

>>4795428
Do you like German expressionist art?

>>4795543
Uhhh...what's going on here anon, is this a surprise shot of a schoolgirl's gams?

>>4795559
I've saved your work before, I think it was a little more confident than this work.

>>4795774
Start with a dark 3B pencil, or a Japanese HB.

>>4795871
Full of sweetness and light

>>4796060
50/10

How do i get good at drawing potraits

after a few (loomis) head tutorials
everything on face is improvised and probably sucks

critic please

is there any hope?

>>4766710
Finished this old sketch. I don't dig the thick lines much but thin ones make it look worse.

>>4796255
what do you mean by "a few loomis tutorials"?

Spend about 100 hours going through Drawing the Heads and Hands by Loomis. You should see improvement.

What do u think?

>>4795871

>>4796339
>what do you mean by "a few loomis tutorials"?
go to youtube
search for "how to draw head"
watch few videos
all do basic construction and proportions
try it
post in /beg/

>>4795330
Methylphenidate!

>>4796361
I like it. Its quite clean and shading is good.
Maybe fix some little things like...
>right hand (her left)
>ear
>maybe chest

I already know I’m the hottest thing since sliced bread, but I figured it’s been a while since I posted in here. I did some sketching of shit I found on Pinterest, enjoy the amazing shit I put out, one day I’ll be impregnating your women as well

Anons if I learn the basics of realistic eyes but can't make them look good can I move on to stylized eyes?

>>4796376
So you didn't even read an actual loomis book.....

>>4796415
no :/
are the words in that book even important?
"just draw" don't work with Loomis?

Does tracing help improve drawing skills?
>left is drawing from reference
>right is tracing

>>4794873
currently just recreating panels from manga.
they are free hand and not layer kekked

>>4796423
tracing is only going to help you if you actually break down their work. Before you trace, add construction over the object you are tracing to try and figure out the artists construction technique

recommend me some artists

john atkinson grimshaw, stephen gammel, zdzislaw beksinki, syd mead, m.c. escher

i did some upper leg anatomy study, i know it looks shit, but i'm still new to this so i don't know what's wrong yet any help ?

>>4796432
literally just started getting into drawing today so take this with a grain of salt but this looks fucking amazing man

>>4796411
just do it

I started looking at lessons on perspective yesterday

we are all gonna make it

>>4796503
I'm gonna make it in five fucking years, WHY DOES MAKING THINGS LOOK GOOD TAKE SO LONG

>>4796503
I don't want to make anything.

>>4796439
Thanks anon! this ins't as impressive as you think, you can get to this at few months of drawing.
also good luck in your art journey!

>>4796386
Thank! Yep, i suck at anatomy, in this one i kindda cheated by using a stock photo of a pose, if i don't i tend to fuck the proportions a lot

Tell me if this is kitsch or if it does indeed look cool

>>4796549
Looks okay but the mouth is too low imo

OP did not post any pictures to draw so I will draw this here woman.

>>4796422
retard

>>4795839
yeah, It's in his figure drawing course and his figure drawing book.

>>4796432
Another one this time on the left leg i tried to group vastus and rectus together like in reference i can also see the tensor fasciae latea ending at the knee,
The other leg is hard to analyze i can see vastus medialis and the bump is rectus obviusly, can't see the sartoruis. and the rest is adductrs and some of the hamstring.

>>4796759
What kind of brush are you using? it looks clean and soft and I should do some shadow studies, it would help me.

>>4796432
>>4796759
mate, you're not gonna get any crit in the /beg/ thread, no one here knows jack shit about this hyper specific anatomy unless a non-/beg/ happens to visit the thread. This just feels like you're trying to flex on everyone.

>>4796480
Just do what? keep drawing shitty realistic eyes?

>>4796769
>This just feels like you're trying to flex on everyone.
I'm really not where should i post then to get critique for this ?
>>4796765
they are kyle brushes but i made some changes here and there it's a soft brush with some texture. you can find the brushes in the Artbook Thread i think

>>4796776
I feel like I post this every day in these threads but it would really help if you posted an example of your stuff. If you understand the fundamental structure of a real eye you should be able to draw one. If you can't, then maybe you should re-evaluate how well you know the structure.

anyone here like it. going for a rainbow theme with the colors (just four pic done of the seven rainbow colors)

>>4796060
Better than some of the manga that gets published in monthly magazines in Japan

>>4796643

is this graphite or...?

>>4796503
>>4796521
it took me 10 fkn years to start drawing again
keep going bros

Practicing painting

what am I supposed to do after I do draw a box stuff for the day? I feel aimless and retarded please advise. Am I even doing this right?

>>4796643
Ok this is as far as I can go, her face was difficult.

>>4796092
You saved 2 minute figure drawings that I did?
there are far better pictures out there.

>>4796794
why did they remove the carpet from underneath her I wonder.

>>4796852
>I feel aimless and retarded please advise. Am I even doing this right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUmyR2vy1Y4

>>4794873
Why does this guy keep making threads with his boring shit as the thread pic? Stop already.

First time doing Anime, please respond

>>4796909
>Anime
you mean cartoon

>>4796913
anon, cant you see? He clearly made anime

is this good monster design?
should ink him?

>>4796913

>>4796922
based baguette poster

How /beg/ is sketching on paper, scanning it and then doing lineart/tracing it on digital?

>>4796913
>cartoon
He means manga.

>>4796859
very cute, do you have blog by any chance?

>>4796897
so basically after im done practicing just draw whatever the fuck... i want? But I want to draw giant spaceships... I don't have the talent for that yet! Maybe a person..

>>4796333
looks good
just clean up the lines

>>4796916
You should, I like it and love the face on the right

>>4796378
anon i'm already on Adderall. maybe i need a t-break. lol

>>4796968
alright.
hope i don't mess it up lol.

I think I'm getting the hang of understanding shapes/gesture and how to apply it in figure drawing, and while I'm far from great I can see some progress in it. The main problem right now is understanding values/rendering, most books I've seen go "okay, here is core shadow, half tones, highlights, cast shadow and reflected light and this is how you apply it on a sphere" and while I managed to do that, I completely fall apart when I try to apply it on a more complex form. Do you guys have any resources or tips on how to get a better grasp at it?

Pic related is my attempt at eyes. First one is from imagination and second is from reference.

Hey dudes, I've been doing studies from the sketches by the Masters. I would love some critique on these three pieces.

>>4796549
Looks kind of cool

>>4797020

>>4797023
Sorry about the rotated picture.

Btw, the book I'm referencing is "Drawing Lessons from the Great Masters" by Robert Beverly Hale.

>>4796942
>But I want to draw giant spaceships
Do this every fucking day
>dexterity = Improve REALLY fast
10-15 Pages per Day(Warm up)
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/superimposedlines
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/ghostedlines
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/tablesofellipses

>>4797040
Draw spaceships every day, do the 10-15 pages every day, or both? Sorry for being retarded but your post is a little ambiguous

How bad is this, folks?

>>4797048
not that anon but both. the point is to spend just as much time doing warmups as you spend drawing spaceships

>>4797040
>do warm ups
>do lesson
>draw what you want (a spaceship)
>review work and see how you can improve
>repeat and apply fixes next day

Inking lines, finished the center

>>4797048
>your post is a little ambiguous
I am the retarded ma bad
Do straight lines,Ellipses, Circles, etc
https://youtu.be/HjUv0Zv0T8o?t=377

>>4797050
legs too short, feet art retarded. prespective on the torso is just wrong.

>>4797064
Your lines are super clean. What kind of pen are you using?

>>4797077
Original for comparison, first time actually putting effort into drawing since months.

>>4797064
Also, are those pencil lines? How are they so clean, too? Did you sketch it digitally then print?

>>4797077
>>4797082
I'm sure you already knew this, but go slower and more carefully with the lines.

>>4797050
Right hand too big
The drawing is kinda weird but you can pass it off as muh style, it's not bad

>>4797081
>>4797084
I used a cristal bic pen for the ink lines and a faber castel 2H pencil for the gray lines, it is all traditional on thick paper

>>4796759
The left leg (from the guy POV) looks shorter that it should be. Look at the negative space between both legs in the photo, it's a shorter and wider shape than the one in your drawing. Otherwise it's looking nice, keep it up.

>>4796811
I could be deadly wrong here, but to me that looks like watercolor combined with graphite

>>4797017
I've been watching a NMA course from a guy called Chris Legaspi. I didn't finish it yet, but he simplifies rendering a lot. I always got confused by it too, but maybe, maybe this time I may get it.

>>4797020
>>4797023
>>4797034
The first thing I see is that you're still drawing symbols. This is very clear on >>4797023
and >>4797034. For example, the eyes look weird because you're drawing what you think how an eye is, not how it really is. Look into measuring and comparing angles, negative spaces, shapes, etc. I suggest you read Keys to Drawing and do all the exercises.

>>4797050
Given that ALL the hands and feet are huge, I'm assuming it was done on purpose.

If so, not bad at all. If no, then it's retarded

>>4797064
Learn anatomy. The joints at the arms and legs are especially jarring.

>>4797078
>>4797094
>>4797101
Thanks for your thoughts. And yes, the hands and feet are big on purpose.

>>4797107
why did you make him look like a midget with gangrened limbs on purpose

>>4796942
>I don't have the talent for that yet!
I think one of the paragraphs in Lesson 0 said something along the lines of
>draw what you won't of draw, if you were the best artist in the world
I personally still have some trouble with this (I'm currently only at Lesson 1) bit I try my best to just find reference for things I like and see how well I can copy them.
Just find some spaceship designs you like and see how well you can draw them. Most importantly of all: finish. Having a bad drawing is shitty for motivation, but finishing at least gives you some satisfaction, if you did your best.

>>4797090
Yeah I know I let myself go wild, I gotta learn to control myself. Do you have any other tips for this type of technique?

>>4797123
Drawing bigger will let you be more detailed.
The hatching lines are parallel in your reference, so try to work on that. Of course you can do cross-hatching, but your reference uses plain hatching.

Okay, I need more figure drawing. Everything I draw ends up looking like shit, I have problems placing things as basic as necks, and no amount of watching speedpaint videos helps.

>>4797154
draw realistic at first, anime style will be easier later on

I hate eyes

>>4797189
tfw you realize you just spent 3 hours drawing a piece of garbage

I’m so wasted!

>>4797163
What is the benefit to it? Every artist with a style I like has done anime all the way through, even those who went from beginner to pro in 2-3 years. They still do poses, objects and anatomy from photo references, but fine detail is never realistic. Are they just not posting the photorealistic stuff?

In any case I'll give it a try, thanks.

>>4797189
>>4797206
Looks pretty good to me, anon.

>>4797214
most people, believe it or not, do not post their practice

>>4797212
nice feet

>>4797219
I went through the blogs of a couple people who post stuff daily and all I'm finding is poorly drawn rkgk stuff slowly progressing to well-drawn anime. Do they keep a secret stash of non-anime practice that never sees the light of day?

Still, it's not like I looked at everyone's progression. Maybe Goban's way of doing things isn't the typical way of doing things. I guess I'll know once I try.

>>4797232
Just hit their dm's and ask them if they have a secret stash of practice work. I can almost gaurantee you they do

>>4794873
Was just testing out my new markers. I know my sketches are shit

>>4797239
not shitty sketches, but I have to say, the guns shadow looks like a mirror reflection

Crit pls

>>4796060
Expressions and anatomy 10/10,also, finish the manga you lazy bastard!

>>4797214
>What is the benefit to it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBadnTAzQFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMUYG1hkY5c
>Every artist with a style I like has done anime all the way through
https://twitter.com/punopupupu/status/1253857220933988354
https://twitter.com/sasamomi/status/835130352712609792
>>4797219
most people, believe it or not, do not post their practice
True
My best advice is:
Spend half of your time learning to draw anime and the other half learning to draw real eyes /body/etc...
because if you only draw real eyes/face/body, you will end up like those people who cannot draw anime, because their visual library is full of real eyes and no anime faces/body/eyes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEgCsWyOyCo
You don't need to draw a super realistic eye, as long as it's decent is enough
Marco Bucci head is a good course

Do you use hard round brush for lineart too?

>>4797259
CSP Pen-Mapping pen
And no

>>4795512
crit appreciated

>>4797248
This looks like you probably used a reference but the arms look... off

>>4795871
You have... a lot of issues in this piece, the biggest being the fact that it is literally only made of symbols. I cleaned up and adjusted the face a bit, but your biggest issue is you seem to be drawing what you *think* goes in a certain place, and doing it wrong.

The eye is an orb- it should be shaded around the edges. I'm not sure where your light-source is, but given the large amount of highlight on her hair, i assumed some kind of top-down lighting.

The eyes shouldn't be as white as the teeth if they're behind sunglasses. The glasses also shouldn't be highlighted like that unless there is also a light-source in front of her, which would eliminate a lot of the shadows.

The hands are beyond repair- please do some life drawings of them, even from reference.

All in all this could be a good piece- I like the colors you picked out, though I'd reduce the saturation on the turtleneck.


You have potential. Do some form studies and some studies from reference.

>>4797258
>sasamori tomoe
I see, that's evidence enough. Whatever that guy does can't be wrong. I'll follow realistic anatomy courses and return, thanks a lot.

Also flipped the thing right side up, because I was feeling stupid with >>4797154.

This is rough but no reference painting, any critique would help

>>4797258
>sasamori tomoe
I see, that's evidence enough. Whatever that guy does can't be wrong. I'll follow realistic anatomy courses and return, thanks a lot.

Also flipped the thing right side up, because I was feeling stupid with >>4797154. And now doubly so because I forgot to resize.

>>4797241
you are not wrong but i kind of liked it so i just left it.

>>4797320
Cant' tell if male or female

>>4797326
HA yea I can get that I mostly draw girls so drawing super masculine men is difficult for me

>>4797320
Ah yes, Setts gay brother, davidd

brainlet box perspective beg question, my tiny brain doesnt really understand how the perspective works when doing box bodies like Pic related. wheres are the VPs supposed to be since each box is tilted differently while keeping the whole figure in perspective? Each each box just aiming towards different VPs on the same horizon line then?

brainlet box perspective beg question, my tiny brain doesnt really understand how the perspective works when doing box bodies like Pic related.

Where are the VPs supposed to be since each box is tilted differently, while also keeping the whole figure in perspective? Is each box just aiming towards different VPs on the same horizon line?

>>4796484
the first flight of stairs is at your eye level and is correct in perspective, but everything above isnt.

once its above eyelevel, ie flat horizon line, it needs to be treated differently and forshortened because its going above instead of below your sight.

What the hell

>>4796549
The long philtrum/low mouth give her a retarded kind of look. Raise it and it'll look cool.

>>4797100
Thank you for the critique.

>>4797348
He's a Cubist maaan, you just don't understand his work!

>>4796403
nice.

>>4797332
Oh my God I don't play league but Jesus I can see the resemblance :((

>>4797290
yeah i see what u mean. does everything else look ok?

>>4797346
just feel the perspective anon, f e e l the perspective.

>>4795298
There is
https://artres.xyz/references/

>>4796929
Why not make the sketch on digital?

>>4797315
Hi original anon here.
Thanks for the reply, really helpful
And for everyone else who did too.
I started this piece as an intention to make it a quick one but that's no excuse.
Good criticism, I'm glad for that.

I have this problem where even after studying Eyes(which is most symbol as you mentioned), I have the tendency to always go back to thinking in lines and relying on a reference.
This probably means strict and proper studying following up.

Hopefully I'll do a complete work and post around again soon.

I'm on mobile so for everyone who have replied and feedback'd, much appreciated!

>>4795594
>I keep autopiolting back to contour drawings
Yeah, with your longer pose I can see that. Seems like you're searching for the right line too much. Not sure how long you've been drawing, but line confidence and accuracy will come with practice. I'd just keep going, do more studies, and try to place one line and let go. If the line was not what you wanted, just move on. Working with a pen kind of helps too.

>shorter poses
Depends on how short. If it's like a one minute pose, I usually go with a broad gesture, doesn't have to be super accurate. It also depends on what you're trying to capture in that minute. If it's gesture, go for that, if you want to focus on a body part, etc...For me, starting with the pelvis or torso is hard, I would need to plan out where my figure will go first. Starting with a body part sounds more like long anatomy studies.

Hope that helps.

I'm also high af right now and couldn't get the captcha like 8 times, so take all that shit with a grain of salt.

>>4797040
The guy literally says on Chapter 0 to not fucking grind.
>>4797048
If you're not done with all the lessons don't do the 15 pages every day, focus firstly on completing every chapter and doing a page or two of warm ups from the most important lessons on each chapter. Also take time to draw what you want, Irshad says on chapter 0 not to think "I can't do this yet, I'll wait until I get better" but to try and do it now, in order to enjoy the drawing process by itself, without paying any mind to how the finished product is going to look.

>>4797040
>>4797048
Your warmups are 15mins before you start drawing for the day don’t do 10-15 pages of homework that’s a waste of time. Read lesson 0 it literally hand hold you on how to do draw a box and studying

What do you like about it?

>>4797456

>>4794873
Still trying to understand the face, did a quick doodle to reinforce what I already knew

>>4797446
thank you. i did up to the box lesson and did the first exercise about perspective, but you're right it said not to grind so i took a break and now im sitting down for "fun drawing". But the only thing I'm drawing is a blank.

>>4797463
Id reccomend watching someone on YouTube called Istebrak. Shes made a bunch of videos about painting the face and goes into more detail than most people do.

https://youtu.be/pvWwB8y8ye4
https://youtu.be/CHuCI9J4pOo

what's a good book on drawing likenesses?

>>4797474
Thank you!

>>4797479
No problem anon

Can't draw a likeness but I still draw people... it's like some form of purgatory. FDR seems to channel John Wayne, Bill Murray, Don Draper.. anyone but FDR.

I'd like to draw Truman and esp. Eisenhower. Here's JFK.

>>4797484
with those crow's feet you really get the sense that he's working overtime. FDR had a really peculiar face with a large chin and a high receding brow... his stylist apparently used 1920's movie makeup for his eyes too.

>>4797509
Is that Doug?

>>4797516
yea

Doing a series of 10 minutes portraits to force myself to quickly get used to shapes and pick what matters, I'm very happy with this, is it perfect? No, is it decent? Wouldn't say so but it's something although it's simple I haven't earned the right to be proud of anything just yet, the ones before this one were bad references and a lack of focus on my part.
Now, I have something else to say, I'm reviewing the learning process for maximum efficiency, what should I add to my plate and what to remove?
On Hold - Eviston, Keys to Drawing, Vilppu, Figure drawing, shading, Loomis
Currently in focus - Dexterity, ovals and circles, soon to add drawabox
What's the best and most efficient way to learn right now?

>>4797559
and before you say
TAKES YOU 10 MINUTES TO DRAW THAT? I know it's not ideal but it's a start and everyday I'll shave time from that, as of now I want to truly get the shapes, make them accurate so that I can improve.

Will drawing thousands of heads from all angles help me skip loomis? I can't draw with loomis' technique and what I'm able to do looks horrible and not at all what I intended.
So will it? if everytime I draw one I pay as much attention as possible to the angle where the lines start where they cross etc?

>>4797559
>>4797561
I forgot something else, my apologies, another thing on hold would be certain tutorials and resources that you, anons here on /beg/ have shared with me on how to draw people, for that I'm very grateful and it is with a huge feeling of embarrassment that I must say I'm below the teachings right now, I'll focus on them on a later date.

I’m not a furry though.

>>4797593
Quite the fantastic drawing, would you be as kind as to share some details into the process because absolutely amazed at the way you make that pose work

>>4797456
nothing

>>4797466
Just draw whatever or look up a ref and draw that, the point is to draw something that isn't boxes that you can enjoy.

>>4797593
Is her back broken?

>>4797610
no
go away, schizo

>>4796852
Post more of your exercises, which ones are the hardest for you anon?

so is drawabox better on a flat surface or a drawing board, some lines feel impossible on anything inclined

>>4797609
>>4797640
Thank you. I tried to draw some eyes, since the first thing i did when i started last week was an eye and i wanted to compare how I'm doing now that I'm studying things like shapes and lighting.

the top eye i did along with a video, the right eye i drew from reference, and
the bottom left eye i drew from imagination.

>>4797690
comparison from when i started last week. Is there any improvement, and where have i screwed up the most? I am still very fucking /beg/ help please :( basically, I don't know how to tell what I did wrong yet. I can tell the eye from imagination doesnt have well constructed eyelids and the eye shape is too small, but beyond that..

Is it impossibly difficult to make it if you work full time or am I just being a bitch?

>>4797700
I drew the dug thing at work while talking to a doctor in like a few minutes, I would imagine someone that actually makes it finds a way. the answer is probably " it depends "

>>4797695
>>4797690
Wow, I like them, how long have you been drawing?

>>4797610
Hi there

>>4797258
The picture on the left is about 1000 times more appealing.

>>4797379
Hot

>>4797593
Furry is as furry does.

>>4797718
can you honestly look and this and not tell there is something wrong with it?
where are your standards anon?

>>4797718
did you draw this with a mouse?

It's always a good feeling when the camera recognizes the faces in your drawing.

>>4798031
What do I need to work on the most?

(here is the reference)

>>4798031
ojisan

Went through week 5 of Eviston - Measuring and proportion this week. To be honest, it sucked the everliving fun out of drawing for me, so I'm going to refrain from using those techniques for now.
Otherwise I've just been drawing whatever I want and trying to apply the construction stuff I've learned. Thingken about doing weekly projects as well.

I drew Tony Tony Chopper as my first drawing tablet pic. It could be way better I guess

>>4797700
I'm a lawyer, and I still do stuff when I get home, which is late as fuck because I hate my fucking hours. If I can hustle 3+ hours a day, so can you.

>>4798198
a lot of chicken scratching, but cute. practice drawing your lines with fewer and bigger strokes.

>>4798268
Thanks anon! I definetly need more practice on my strokes

>>4798031
Looks like one of those javs where old japanese women larp as lolis, it's very uncanny.

>>4797767
i just started last week. thanks a lot anon.

>>4798413
Any previous experience?

Just finished this, any critique ?

>>4798432
I'm a software engineer so I'm very far removed from drawing except for some UI design. I'm trying to learn how to draw to quit my job and start working on my ow video games. I'm tired of feeling "incomplete" because I can't communicate my ideas visually you know? But yeah no, I don't have any prior experience, kind of just jumped into it with the sticky and keys to drawing and draw a box and im just winging it. I don't even understand the difference betwrrn the hard, medium, and soft charcoal sticks i bought yet. But some day..

The worst part is not knowing how to tell if your drawing is good or bad when you're done with it..

>>4797841
What an odd picture
Anon, why are others better than me, am I not applying myself as I should?

>>4798439
You are special aren't you? It's my fault this is my fault by beeing too hard on myself I had to take a break but no fuck this.
You want to look down on me don't you? A week he says, a week, fuck it, I'M LUCIFER, as lucifer I'm too punished by having other looking down on me.

>>4798445
.....? anon i just wanna know how i can improve my eyes..

>>4798452
He's a resident shitposter, don't mind him.

But yeah anon, that's crazy good improvement for one week.

>>4798452
Bellum omnium contra omnes
I'll get revenge, between all other projects and drawing I choose drawibg full time so that I might get back at you
>>4798454
You guys are the ones ignoring me

>>4798454
thank you. do you have any advice on what i did wrong or what I should be working on? i think if i knew how to spot mistakes easier it would help a lot, and I've been told not to "grind" draw a box

>>4798469
>special
>talent
This is all you are, you cunt
Give me a ride, anon, Sweet family will die!

Every single time I see someone better than me (I could put in more time I know) I start to wonder, will I ever be good? why is it me the one who has to be like this? couldn't it be someone else? I continue to wonder, is it my fault or the fault of some quality like talent? And as I continue to wonder I become more and more deranged, murderous yet artistic prospects come into my mind, I dress like the part and I go for a walk, a calm walk where I consider, what makes others better than me? where is it? how long and how deep would I have to cut into the body to see it and grab it for myself.

>>4798492
Where is talent? Would I have to dig dip into the spine, the heart, the brain?

what is happening

>>4798502
Why are others better than me? The anon who bothered me before I have become better than him, he no longer matters, I won that one. and I can prove it, a drawing he did based on a reference I did better, my lines more accurate, my distances correct and I had a blunder but even that was better than his symbol drawing
but this new one >>4797695
>>4797690
>>4796852

>>4798469
I'd honestly steer away from /beg/ if you want actual critique, this general is called /beg/ for a reason and most of the time it's just begs groping around in the dark trying to help each other out. Well intentioned but not very helpful.
I'd recomend checking out other critique threads or making your own, you're probably going to get shit on because the board is full of assholes and crabs but imo there's a bigger chance that someone with actual helpful critique will come along.

>>4798516
This, for example, is never said to me, others enjoy preferential treatment but not me.

>>4798516
thank you anon. really out of my depth and scared of getting made fun of by anons but I'll chin up and take it in critique threads i guess. (but fuck i am /beg/ as fuck)

>>4798529
Just ignore the blatant crabs that just shit on you with no semblance of actual criticism, they're bitter and taking out their anger on anything they can so their opinions are irrelevant (and there's a lot of them in this board).
But i'd argue even that is better than dealing with retards like >>4798445 no?

>>4798540
>>4798519
It's only me the one who's insulted in these threads, why is that so?

So i made this based on a old drawing, its not the final stuff but i dont know what you think

>>4798647
>Dragon goddess
/beg/, but respect

I bought a mixed media sketchbook and the paper is too alien for me, it feels like i'm drawing on cardboard and i can't adjust pressure accordingly. like i get a weird texture when i try to do darker values because of those little line gaps that makes things hard to read.
am i doing something wrong?

>drawing along with Glenn Vilpuu renaissance head course
>he starts drawing random squiggly lines for no reason
>draws features that don't match the model
>changes the perspective
>changes the facial expression
>"And now Ughhhhhhhh emmmmm"

It often feels like he's just briefly glancing at the reference and then imagination-drawing the head using shapes and facial features he's memorized over his decades of practice. For me as a /beg/ its frustrating trying to follow along, not knowing if I should copy the model or his drawing that's loosely based on the model.

we are gonna make it

>>4798692
Most /begs/ could outdraw Van Gogh. Look at his poor attempts to do bargue plates.

Compare to this, Picasso's attempt at a bargue plate age 12.

>>4798692
she looks like shes on a phone lol

How do i know if im practicing?
Most of the time it feels like im thrashing around aimlessly and every doodle i make looks like a previous one

is it a bad idea to learn how to draw on a display tablet? my friend has a cintiq thats pretty much collecting dust because they upgraded to a bigger display tablet and they said i can use it if i wanted to.
sure, i can just buy a sketch book and some pens but im at my computer the vast majority of the time since i work at home which is why im asking.

>>4798763
how many books have you read about drawing? don't lie unless you want to be stuck in /beg/ hell forever.

>>4798779
One and only halfway through because a ftiend i borrowed it from wanted it back
Besides that my only source of knowledge are some shitty 15 minute yt videos

now that i think of it, it seems like im on a good path to eternal ngmi

>>4798797
you've got to nourish yourself, bro
start taking in more text and more art
yandex has a pretty decent image search for looking at lots of hi-res art

https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/mode/2up

>>4798763
How do i know if im practicing?
You need dexterity to draw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScJYhidXYOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ufz75UvHs

>>4798771
>is it a bad idea to learn how to draw on a display tablet?
yes and no
https://youtu.be/HjUv0Zv0T8o?t=778

>>4798492
GTFO!!!

>>4798502
He does this shit in every thread. You'll get used to it.

>>4798842
Seriously anon, how to improve my skill? what are your opinions on me?

>>4798681
It's probably like that because it's designed to work with fancier tools. If you're just drawing in pencil, you can pretty much use printer paper.

Can't get over the use of lines, any resources on the transition from drawing to actual painting?

Should I start directly painting with no more than a sketch?

>>4798684
You should obviously understand what he's doing and why. Copy his technique, not his drawing. FEEEEEL the form. Draw the rest of the fucking owl.

>>4798845
>how to improve my skill?
do circles,straight lines,ellipses,etc every fucking day/5h/20pages

>>4798700
Damn, no wonder that nigga got tired of realism.

>>4798889
picasso is one of those guys who you just KNOW is overhyped by literally everyone, but then you start to learn more about him, and the more you do, the less human he seems and more god-like he becomes
it IS possible to overstate his greatness, but it is nonetheless very difficult.

>>4798915
>Picasso is von Neumann: painter edition
Whoa, you learn something new everyday.

Not into trad artists, I'm the anime guy up there, but these 'even the other geniuses are scared of you' level people are always a blast to read about.

>>4798947
von neumann is actually a perfect way of explaining picasso

>>4798387
I think I put her mouth too far down. Her philtrum is too long, enhancing that granny look.

>>4798445
>>4798508
begone, schizo

new thread >>4799067

new thread >>4799067

new thread >>4799067

>>4798863
Im not sure if this post is ironic or not

>>4799070
100% sarcastic

>"just grind out forms bro and then you'll get it"

I've been grinding forms for 2 weeks and still haven't produced anything because nothing is good enough to actually finish. People tell me to trace poses and I do like pic related but what the fuck do I do after that?