/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4783501
>my art used as the thumbnail for beg thread
i have finally made it bros.
i have finally ascended to the rank of beg.

>>4783622
good job Anon onward to greatness!

>>4783713
I'm trying to draw this tiger. How am I going so far? Something to change?

Two minute figures, is there something specific I should focus on in order to save time?

>>4783778
The preparation looks nice, if you want to save time you can try using broader strokes

>>4783622
I can only hope to one day achieve your greatness as well

>>4783622
Years ago the OP of the beg thread used to shop multiple drawing from the previous beg thread into one picture for the new thread.

one of the drawings was mine, I was happy

>>4783622
I really like your US Sumo character. Make anymore?

>>4783831
It was really just a one time thing I made for a fat dude living in Japan. The rest of my drawings don't really look like that. Instagram.com/NuruiGumi
Behance.net/nuruigumi

I recently started Steve Huston's Beginner Figure Drawing. As soon as I finished Part 1, I tried to do some 2 minute gesture drawings. It took a bit longer than I'd expect to try to get some general idea of the gesture lines. 1 and 2 are from the lecture video. 3, 4 and 5 are from quick poses. Do I have the right idea when it comes to doing gesture?

This is what it looks like if I try to sketch without a ref. What went wrong?

>>4783788
Proportion*

A lot of /beg/ advice in the sticky recommends Loomis. I've been working with Figure Drawing. My problem is that there are no exercises, so I don't really know what to do. Should I recreate each page? Focus on just the basic mannikin? How can I know if I'm improving or just spinning my wheels?

>>4783713
>>4783715
Looks nice to me. Just do it, don't be too attached to your work, you can always do it again later.

>>4783912
sycra, you?

>>4783982
Get Vilppu's Drawing Manual or Hampton's Figure Drawing: Design and Invention, it's a lot better than Loomis for figure drawing IMO. You wanna focus specially on gesture now (do not neglect the other stuff tho)

But the more you study, the better, so get Loomis' books and
>Copy each drawing once, specially anatomy stuff
>Draw the manikin while looking at reference photos, paying attention to proportions


>How can I know if I'm improving or just spinning my wheels?
Draw a figure right now in the best way you can, looking at reference or from imagination, keep it in a safe place and draw it again in a month or two. If you study everyday correctly, you WILL see improvement. Don't worry about it too much for now.

>>4783505
post fat people for the next thread

>>4784032

Ah, thank you very much for the advice! I will get my hands on those books and start on a figure reference to compare a month from now.

Been a big fan of Yoji Shinkawa and an even bigger fan of Ashley Wood. Got my first pen brush like an hour ago and I'm having fun for the first time in a while. How do I stay "abstract" though while also improving?

>>4783997
>don't be too attached to your work, you can always do it again later
True. Thanks.

it's not done yet i just wanna know if there's any glaring mistakes i missed before i dive deeper in it.

>>4784023
LOL not sycra

>>4783912
Also made this today, how can I make it look shiny like they do in retro anime?

After Jules Jacob Lefebvre. Arguably his best work too.

>>4784123
It's done.

>>4784428
fixed the cape a bit.

First doodles since like 3 years ago. Making the head looked like that failed Jesus restoration so it became Wojak.

>>4784347
The horse head seems a bit small and the perspective of the buildings looks off, but I loved the hatching, nice work. Also good composition.

>>4784428
>>4784468
I think the head shouldn't turn as much as it is turning there on the right. Also the proportion of the arms looks off and the hands are too big. Nice style tho, it captures that medieval vibe nicely, specially on the head on the left.

>>4784489
Not that bad if you're really getting back from 3 years of hiatus. Based and Zyzzpilled

>>4784468
I like the feeling you've gotten in the image.

My suggestion is to fill in the lines in the armor to make the details stand out more as it's kinda hard to see atm.

>>4784347
mirin hatching

>>4784503
yeah proportions are definitely off, they were too small earlier and now they're too big, i struggle with prespective.
>>4784517
yeah i was considering using ink for the armor but i'm afraid i'll mess up and ruin it.

>>4783872
2, and maybe 1, look okay for someone who's just started figure drawing, the other ones could use more work. try reading the first chapter of Hampton's book or watch his gesture demos. You'll get better at it with practice and as you learn more about structure. Watch Huston's demos as well if you haven't. Keep at it anon.

>>4784538
You could press a little harder with a regular pencil. That'll do the trick

>>4784538
Now that you know what's wrong with it, draw it again and try to correct those mistakes. I also suggest you go ahead and ink it, don't be afraid to mess it up.

How /beg/ tier is this

>>4784555
>this
what

>>4784561
I actually posted the wrong pic but im just not gonna post the one I was gonna for now lol

Today's bored sketches.

I want to feel comfortable drawing figures from imagination.

genuinely can't tell if it's better or worse now.
might ink later. I'm spent for now

Reminder that if you do digital "art", you're a poser.

wow putting tits on them really helps me feel the form, also thanks to whoever puts all the reference stuff at beginning of thread i use it a lot

>>4784658
i do trad art and i would switch to digital in a heartbeat if i wasn't a poorfag third worlder.

>>4784643
Cool drawing. My only criticism is that its hard to tell if her torso is facing forward or backward.

>>4784712
yeah i see how the plating can make it sort of look like abs which is disorientating

>>4784668
I thought digital was cheaper?

>>4784658
Fitting that this was posted in /beg/

>>4784347
The faces are the weakest part m8 which is like...I mean... You're gonna want to work on that. It's kind is the most important part. But overall not bad at all for beg.

>>4784765
It's true, you're not a real artist if you're digital.

>>4784774
xd

>>4784539
Thanks Anon. I did 1 and 2 with no time limits. the other 3 I did with 2 minutes thinking that would be plenty of time. Do you know the name of the Hampton book by chance?

very boring desu famalam

>>4784784
49, like 49 heads? And you still aren't taking the time to check the proportions? What are you expecting to gain from this mindless grind?

>>4784794
>What are you expecting to gain from this mindless grind?

fun

>>4783505

>>4784796
>fun
>>4784784
>very boring
So you aren't learning anything and you aren't having fun.

>>4784784
>>4784801
i was saying this particular face looks boring, and even if it was its just one day out of 49

>>4784804
realised you shouldnt be able to see behind the ear at this angle, the whole thing is just a mess

I want to become a coomer artist. Is this level of skill enough to start getting followers?

ok final revision sorry for spam

>>4784794
thank you for encouragement even though i know you didnt mean it like that

>>4784816
Yes, but only show torso up for now. Some thigh proportions aren't too good

>>4784816
top left? no. I know what view you were going for but you missed I would say. The rest are *alright* but they should be good enough for cooming

>>4784838
Are you able to draw a clean head template? This pic just has squiggly lines everywhere and its hard to tell what you're trying to accomplish with it. Try taking it slower. Find all the proportion lines first, then lay the features over. The mouth is misaligned, the ear is too far back (should hang off the side line not the back of the head), and the chin is too long. You can be better than this, I believe in you.

Guys I need a lot of critic, I know something is wrong but I do not know exactly what is it.

>>4784896
If it's digital then it sucks

>>4784896
hard round brush

>>4784885
please redline the mouth im having a breakdown here i just cant get it

>>4783622
i remember yours was supposed to be a youtuber right? Good stuff!

>>4784900
>>4784905
I don't usually practice with my tablet, I prefer paper, but I was bored so I tried practicing with my tablet. Can you please tell me what is wrong? I will practice with paper and pen today.

>>4784896
this -> >>4784905

>>4784885
hows this? wont even attempt eyes

>>4784896
unconfident lines are good at consealing mistakes. make more confident strokes. Instead of going over the same line 8 to 9 times, just go over it one or two more times

>>4783523
first time trying to render in digital, any tips going forward? I know I messed up the neck and there's no feet or hands

>>4784852
>>4784865
ok thanks for the feedback

>>4784917
the jaw and head shape changed for the worse

make a full page and practice sweeping strokes in all directions, just try to make them straight. also practice clean symmetrical circles and boxes. spend 30 minutes a day on it for 2 weeks before your daily head, it's a living hell but you'll have long, confident sweeping strokes

Dope thread picture

>>4784918
Yes, thanks! I was trying my best, there was a LOT MORE of lines, desu I am a very unconfident person in everything I do so it does not surprise me to be like this at drawing. I will try to do just 2-3 lines as you say.

>>4784916
But I was using one. Should I change it?

When you're brain damaged and have not drawn anything in 3 years--

>>4784972
anon...

>>4784917
what this guy said>>4784885
but the jaw is too narrow not too long. From the front, the jaw is rounded like a cylinder, and the lips should follow that form.

>>4785005
pic related, the jaw is round

>>4785005
Hi pinkline anon just wanted to thank you for correcting my shit last thread it helped alot

>>4785017
No problem bro, happy to help

About to give this lesson from Steve Huston a shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg
Pic related is my work beforehand, any advice from you guys as to what I should change?
I'm trying to figure out proportions while doing a Trace, Redraw, and Compare method of practice.

>>4785005
>tfw I was about to post my barely better redline then his piece of work had to post this
Well at least you got help from someone better than me.

>>4784658
Who let grandpa out of his room...

>>4785039
>>4785005
thank you anons <3

>>4785038

Huston is great because he simplifies the head and teaches you how to draw the head from any angle (with Loomis I struggled with this aspect.) However, if you’re having issues with proportions Huston may not be the guy for you at the moment, he just glosses over that stuff in my opinion.

Here are my gesture studies from random images, does anyone know what I can improve on?It feels like I’ve been studying gesture forever but it still hasn’t really clicked.

>>4785069
Thank you so much for actually giving advice, I've been waiting for a while for an answer
Any one you recommend to learn proportions from?

And if my input on your gestures is of any help, it looks like some anatomy is off a little bit and some of the poses look unnatural, should be an easy fix with practice though.

>>4785038
I think you should work on constructing the brow ridge and the side planes of the face. Keep in mind that the dent created by the brow ridge exists even if it's covered by eyelids and fat. The upper side plane is much bigger than you think and extends to the brow ridge. You did a pretty good job overall, but it may be more beneficial for you to study the skull along with the face in order to understand the underlying construction better.

>>4785081
Holy shit saved, thank you!
And yeah I was studying the skull a lot before I got my tablet, I may have just gotten careless and skipped a few steps.

>>4785069
If you're just trying to capture gesture these have way too much contour going into them. Gesture is all about being loose and free with the lines to try and feel around for a pose that looks fluid, you can build the form on top afterward. A lot of these are very stiff, some of them literally just being someone standing straight up. Have you tried learning from Vilppu or Hampton? Hampton really clicked with me and he goes into a nice amount of depth in only about an hour.

Any critique is fine, no matter how trivial

>>4785089
Learn your fundamentals.

>>4785089
loomis

>>4785076

Honestly, based on your image your best bet at the moment is probably Loomis, I use a combination of his and Huston’s head construction.

>>4785089
Unironically , Loomis. For real, do yourself a favor and learn how to draw the basic shape of a head.

>>4785089
retarded beginner go copy more anime

>>4785094
Thanks bro, will do!

>>4785096
Not that guy, he is clearly bad, but why the fuck you do need to tell him he is a retard? Just try to help him, because if you do not he will continue being a retard.

>>4785096
Will do

>>4785100
Idc

>>4785087

Thanks for the crit, and yeah when studying from a reference, I do tend to rely on copying contour as a crutch it’s a bad habit because I want it to look good but I end up not learning much

>>4785069
Me >>4785087 again. This is just a quick rendition of how I learned gesture. I chose your best one and tried to push the gesture a little further. Someone better than me at this could probably push it further easily. The basic idea is, throw all proportion and contour and anatomy out the window in the gesture phase. Use loose, flowy strokes to define the gesture, go over it with basic 3D forms and make small corrections to proportions and etc. After all of that you can delve into anatomy and shit, which I still haven't done myself but I'll get there eventually I hope. I'll reiterate Hampton's figure drawing course, or his book, whichever you want. He's a really good instructor.

Just dropping in to remind you bros not to procrastinate too much and remember to have fun with a pencil :)

>>4783508
Please rate. I am a newbie. Something is wrong with the right arm I am sure.

I am this anon again >>4784896 I know, no more digital.

>>4784896
Is your perspective
The foreshortening isn’t working for that reason (see: her thigh, his arm)
Focus on perspective! :)

>>4785111

Thanks, I’ll check out Hampton, funny enough I had some of his youtube videos queued up in a figure drawing playlist, but you just gave me an excuse to watch them

>>4785121
Ok, thanks! I am doing a perspective course and trying figure drawing at the same time. Do you recommend me to get back to figure drawing AFTER finishing studying perspective? Maybe I shouldn't study both at once.

>>4785115
Again, same issue
I’m unsure of which direction some of her limbs are turning. You can fix this by improving your sense of applying perspective to basic forms.

>>4785126
I don’t really see a problem with studying both at once since you can tell something is wrong. As soon as you lose sight of how weird it looks, you’ve formeda bad habit that’s gonna be hard to break. Just be mindful and have fun.

>tfw wanting to draw your whole life and still in /beg/

>>4785127
>>4785129
Should I go with "Perspective Made Easy"? Is there any book to help me to apply perspective to "living" things?

will draw a box help me? I am on my box number 170

>>4785127
>>4785129
Should I go with "Perspective Made Easy"? Is there any book to help me to apply perspective to "living" things?

Will draw a box help me? I am on my box number 170. Please no bully I know it looks like a retarded question but I want to get better.

>>4785114
Did Loomis a couple of months ago too. His mannikin was pretty cool at the time, but I gave up on him after attempting anatomy with his teachings. Do what works for you, but anything after the mannikin doesn't teach much imo

>>4783505

Does it look like your looking down on her?
Also I keep getting too committed to drawing naked bodies. I need to start adding clothes.

I often go for rougher line work. I know it doesn't look as nice, but I always found it more appealing to look at. My backgrounds are usually more fleshed out, but i took a while off from digital illustration and this was my first time since, so i made it simple. Gimme criticisms.

Here is the reference I used.

>>4784643
Wow, i love this. The expression, details in the armour and the hair are really well done. She has so much personality. Is she for a comic/story you are planning?

>>4785259
Here is my sketch.

>>4785263
Shit. Here is my sketch.

How long

>>4785264
>>4785259

>>4785179
oh this one's nice. why don't you attempt the feet?

>>4785265
pretty good anon, not beg, do you practice figure drawing from memory? if you do, how do you do it?

Watching the Steve Huston video right now. Can someone check my sketches here and see if there are major issues with it?
What I've learned so far seems right:
>Eye line is right on center line of skull
>brow line is 1/2 way between eye line and top of head
>bottom of nose is 1/2 way between eye and chin
>bottom of lower lip is 1/2 way between bottom of nose and chin
>ears are usually fitted in between eye line and bottom of nose line

>>4785293
I meant brow line not eye line in that first bullet my bad
But I already feel like I've already improved

Hey /ic/, what do you think of this skeleton? Anything I should adjust before I go ahead with drawing the main details?

>>4785219

I genuinely have been trying for the last 2 hours. I have never done anything like this before but wanted to try. I know it's going to take a long time of trial and error, but I want to be better

Who is the LOOMIS of digital rendering? I'm finally ready to take on light and color, ,but I don't want a shitload of time looking for artist to learn from.

>>4785317
Damn Seamus I know you like them flat, but legs with no asses is extreme even for you.

>>4785325
Yeah I've never really drawn legs before or attempting anything remotely "sexual" before. Most of my previous stuff has just been headshots or a joke image. Didn't really know how to get the asscheeks right

>>4785297

>>4785228
rough and sketchy linework can look good but your lines just look hairy and shoddy

guys i played more fps aim trainers and apex legends than i drew today

don't worry i'm gonna stick my cock into the planes of the head tomorrow

>>4785318
pyw

I must admit I haven't been drawing as much as I'd like but I'll post a drawing I did two days ago, I'm happy with it even if it's not perfect and I still can't shade

>>4785261
thanks, she's just a character i made in a videogame, dragons dogma. although i am keeping her design around for reference in case i ever want to make something fantasy related

>>4785317
Its not horrible for a first timer. Its a bit wet noodlely and clearly rough but if this is genuinely your first attempt at this you clearly have some potential. I'd suggest learning basic anatomy and the foundations. The arms are a bit weird, the torso and legs look like two completely different people, and the proportions are all wrong, but don't give up. Just keep at it and eventually you'll be able to make the world cum

>>4785413
Tried to draw Coltrane, lot's of mistakes and messy lines but I think I'm finally getting away from literal lines, do I have even the tiniest bit of potential that can be solved with willpower? although that is a useless question
I like the eye, I look at that and can't help but smile.

>>4785427
Oh, hahahahah my goodness the nose is too short, it seems theres no potential on this drawing, my bad and apologies

>>4785377
>>4785376
>>4785373
>>4785372
guys what can you say about these?

>>4785427
>>4785429
It seems I have deep issues with measuring, I wonder if it's something akin to tunnel vision, I've failed again
>>4785402
We both share the same issues, when faced with the agony of repetition, derision, defeat we feel as if we must distract ourselves, to avoid this simple on the planning, herculean in execution

>>4785435
Reposting the drawing which now makes me feel like I've failed
Tried to draw coltrane but his nose is too short, only now did I notice, yes I'm very well aware of angle issues at the hairline and messy lines
I like the eye though

>>4785431
group your shadows so that the form is more defined. Your midtones are all over the place making the drawings look a bit flat.

>>4785268
I’m a coward

Day 1 of istebrak portrait challenge

Obviously there's a lot wrong with these, but some things I'm finding hard is how to join hands to wrists, how to actually draw hands on a full figure (can kinda do them on their own but now their small and attached to something), conveying the correct curves on arms and legs and how to actually draw the details inside of the body.

>>4785436
Don't be so hard on yourself, at least you're realizing that you're making mistakes. I think that the jaw area needs more work than the nose, the way you drew him makes him look like Thanos. The lips should be the most protruding part of the lower part of his face, and you drew them level with the jaw. You got the general shape of the face and the brow ridge though, so props for that.

>>4785483
Ahhhh, the jaw, I'm completely surprised I never realized it was that different, thank you and nice sketch, now I can't unsee Thanos, hah.
What should I do to improve on this though? Observational skills obviously but anything else

>>4785496
When you’re confident enough with your observational skills, you can try to simplify faces into simple box and round forms. vilppu’s videos on figure drawing helped me with that. Hampton’s lecture on the face was nice too, pretty similar to Loomis.

Man im dogshit, even when I flip this I can't tell what's so off. I mean im terrible so that might be it.

>>4785529
flipped

fuck hands

>>4785529
>>4785531
shoulders not broad enough.

>>4783501
>Mfw I found out about the smooth watercolor brush and how it's used for shading

I've been doing it wrong this entire time, I've been only outlining the parts I wanted to shade, filling them and using the blur tool in the edges, I'm fucking retarded but I'm glad I've finally learned this, I can't wait to see how my art will improve from this.

I've been told by countless others that combining and drawing inspiration/knowledge from styles that people like is how they develop their own style. Is this true? Could I really develop my own style as some crude combination of, say, Yoji Shikawa and Mike Mignola?

>>4785603
Yeah but don't take it as a strict science. Just take what you find appealing of your inspirations and see if you can implement them in your art. the results may or may not be compatible.
Experimentation is the name of the game.
Either way. getting good at fundies should always be your primary goal if you're a /beg/.

I don't know what I'm doing lmao

>>4785605
This isn't finished btw it just looks so shit that I don't think I even want to or can salvage it at this point

>>4785605
try using more than 2 values.
Paint the whole thing with darker values then start layering the lighter values on top of it.

>>4785599
It doesn't help I've been making sick gains from my aim trainer routine. I'm trying to apply the same mindset with drawing. We go again until we see the gains.

>>4785605
at least you're not contour drawing. thats good. However it looks like you spent 2 minutes on it. Maybe use some more time+!?!?

>>4783501
Lined paper nigger here, yes I fucked the mouth and the whole thing looks creepy however that is what i get for rendering instantly with no construction

>>4785605
You're trying to do something extremely hard for a beginner. Don't be harsh on yourself. Try something with less texture, where color shapes can be more appreciated.

>>4785640
Why didn't you use construction my man? Without correct proportions, no matter how hard you render, most drawings will look bad. If you couldn't be arsed to copy it or use measures, at least trace the image, so you can train your rendering without distortions.

>>4785644
Forgot to add, if you did nail proper proportions this'd look great. The use of grays and edges is competent enough.

>>4785644
when im having a bad day and i cant make anything worthwhile i just make a graphite copy, i could go back and fix the mouth but fuck it

>>4785630
That's the right mentality, my shading looked like it was made with crayons but now with this new knowledge I feel like Bob Ross.
>>4785608
Not the guy you replied to but thank you for this tip, I was having trouble applying shadow in a study I'm working on and the results were far easier.

>>4785308
I'm done working on this. I forced myself to finish it.
I know I messed up on the hands, I always avoid them.

I only ever drew with HB pencils and ballpoint pens like a child, considering buying some graphites today, anything i should know? i have no experience with them.

>>4784800
leg proportions are iffy.
thighs too long.
also your muscle mass doesn't suddenly dissapear around the elbows. the change in thickness should be subtle

>>4785603
>try to draw like Mike Mignola and Yoji Shikawa
>learn to draw like Mike Mignola and Yoji Shikawa
The theory seems sound.
/beg/ is not the best place to ask for advice on developing a style, though, since that presupposes that you can draw, and most of /beg/ can't. That's why it's /beg/.

>>4785668
It's terrible in every way. The face needs to be either less anime or more anime, right now it just looks like some kind of alien. The lighting is inconsistent. The water looks like purple slime. The perspective is broken, with the hands seemingly spread at the sides but the water ripples under them much more forward.
Good effort though. Keep working hard. You'll make it one day.

>>4785739
Not the anon that made the draw but could you make a redline? Or explain what to do to fix the perspective? Because I have the same problems this anon has, and I know something is wrong with perspective and I don't know how to fix it

whats the best thread to put htis?

>>4785752
I didn't touch the anatomy, but I tried to fix the perspective. Water ripples under the hands. The thighs suggest it's meant to be from above, so I moved the horizon way up.

I was going to post this in /asg/ since it is a study of >>4771997 but upon the absolute struggle to color this picture I've come to realize that despite doing studies of anime rendering I just can't reproduce it on my own. Since my question went ignored I ask again who is the LOOMIS of digital rendering?

>>4785668
not this >>4785739 Anon here

I will only touch the face and head cause no time cause that seems to be the most pressing I would guess you used a ref for the body but not for the hands and the head.

The face appears to be flat as if you are unsure which part goes where in 3D. The head is a sphere and the face is a 3D object its parts move and align based on the angle you look at them. if you loo at it from the bottom view like you drew everything on the lower part moves upward making the chin and the underside of the nose look bigger. The lips start to curve upwards, the eyes also curve upwards and the upper lashes appear longer and thicker. The forehead seems shorter and the hair on the top also seems shorter. The ears also move down to follow the line of the eyebrows and the nose.

Finally the center of the neck becomes more pronounced, the throat, trachea etc. bulge out because the balance of the head moves back so the neck stretches out forward in the front which causes the front muscles to relax and stretch out.

There are some other things, hands weird, perspective slightly off but I think this could help your knowledge most.

i'm trying to understand values, its been some months since i last drew, so i'm remembering and focusing in something each new sketch, thats why its kinda incosistent, what can improve?

>>4785968

>>4785971

>>4783713

Why do you want to just re draw something that's already been drawn without adding anything to it. If that is a style you are interested in learning you're better off closely studying it and using long deliberate strokes to recreate it.

>>4784838

Looks nice. Why do you use the horizontal guide lines near the features if they aren't actually lining up with the features? You know those have a practical purpose beyond "Thats what artists do" right?

>>4785968
>>4785971
>>4785973
post in the draw thread. you have better understanding of form and value than most /begs/ here

>>4783872
>Steve Hudson
CRINGE, Proko is better

>>4786188
>Bjorn
absolutely based.
you already made it in my eyes

>>4785971
you aren't beg but stay here, we need your experience

i know this is nightmare fuel but i tried to feel the planes and the form of the head, howd i do? and again i know aesthetically its disgusting

>>4786414
nice chimpanzee. keep up the good work anon

>>4786415
its an ape actually but ty

>>4786008
>>4786367
Thanks! I'm not confident in my drawings so for me i'm really beg level still.
I just started undertanding forms and tridimensionality more intuitively and i'm trying to step into values area without worring about construction too much, these were basically my first values studies after ctrl paint videos, i kinda like them but they're still odd, i know i have a bunch of shit to fix.
Thanks for the kind words!

>>4784123
>>4784643
decided to get over my fear of ink and just do it.
glad i can move on.

>>4786414
center line is your friend. why did you forgo it. it's why the nose and mouth are not aligned. i won't even get into the eyes.

>>4786455
i know this will sound retarded but could you redline the center line on the girl on the left

>>4786457
i don't do digital.
this is what i can offer with mouse+MS paint.

>>4785957
Not the guy you're fixing but this still helped me a lot, thanks man.

>>4786465
this is fine thank you anon

>>4786194
thank you, but how can i improve my technique?

>>4784643
looks like armors mixed from dragons dogma and bloodborne

>>4785431
they look great in the thumbnails, so i think youre getting something right

>>4785968
it looks like you do understand values to me so I think that means you need to ask the next rank of skill desu~

>>4785851
>>4785957
Thanks my dudes
These are actually helpful.

the big 50

>>4786587
i can see now his nose is at the wrong fucking angle, will fix in a bit

>>4784783

>>4784783
>>4786596
Forgot to link this too.
https://youtu.be/sSzB3ESpfE0

>>4786587
the eyes are like, half symbol drawn but half not? Either way, ive been here since head number 3 and I'll say you have improved quite a bit

>>4785809
hell

>>4786649
thank you for the compliment anon :) its nice to see some improvements after repeatedly being told im retard for doing this challenge and will never make any progress

/beg/ perspective question: Are vanishing points based completely on the objects in the scene? for instance, (pic related) if objects are shaped and placed a certain way could you have 3 vanishing points like this or no?

>>4786764
2 point perspective: 2 vanishing points, all lines converge at them (not really what happens IRL but we simplify it)
3 points: 3 VPs
etc

how, just HOW do you shade hair. please give advice

>>4786764
>Are vanishing points based completely on the objects in the scene?
Yes. Each object has it's own set of vanishing points. If two or more objects have the same orientation then their lines converge to the same vp on the horizon line.

I want to die a little less than yesterday

>>4786808
i don't think that should be your biggest concern

>>4783505

>>4786808
Think of hair in sections and strands. Hair naturally clumps together. But if her head is pulling back and to the side the hair would be pulling more away from the face.

Someone help with the anatomy

can't seem to figure it out,

maybe someone redline?

>>4786858
im having trouble mostly with the arms, like what needs to be forshorten or just the postitioning

>>4786764
>Are vanishing points based completely on the objects in the scene?
Yes.
>for instance, (pic related) if objects are shaped and placed a certain way could you have 3 vanishing points like this or no?
For certain object shapes, yes. You need to remember that only one of those boxes you got is actually rectangular, though. The sides the converge to the point on the left are parallel, but the other sides are not.

>>4785265
How long have you drawn? At least 2 years

>>4786808
The bones shouldn't be that color. They'd be covered in blood, and even if you cleaned them up, fresh living bone is more pale pink than gray. Search pictures of open fractures for reference.

>>4786826
>even the blocks that are sitting at an angle and not parallel to the ground somehow converge towards the horizon
Is this image just trolling, or is there some deeper point I'm missing?

>>4786843
Why are the lines so jittery? Did you chickenscratch them and then reduce the size to hide it?

>>4786792
>>4786826
>>4786865
thanks helps alot

>>4786858

try looking up arm tutorials

Am i beg? if so how do i escape beg tier
will post some stuff i done recently

>>4786963

>>4786966

>>4786967

>>4786969

>>4786969
>>4786967
>>4786966
>>4786963

fuck off with this flat anime shit and go read loomis

>>4786963
his right eye is looking at me

his left eye looks towards god

/beg/

I don't like using construction. I think it makes stuff look still and unnatural and leads to same face. People and things are build very differently so I just try to draw what I see. Am I set up to fail? I really don't like the style every artist on the internet has. Did the old masters draw construction under every painting or just some basic lines? I mostly do water colors and no digital.

>>4787012
pyw

>>4786963
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>>4786967
>>4786969
>>4786971
/beg/ because ur racist

>>4786596
>>4786609
Thanks Ill look for the book now. I had that video in my watch later for a while. Now Im more inclined to watch it asap.

>>4786969
how could you draw this shit and think you're not beg.
why do so many animefags fall for the megacephaly meme.

>>4787027
why yes i draw oversized heads

Guys quick I am going to do some lineart and need good settings for my brush. Hard round brush?

>>4787021
how

>>4787027
kek

>>4787050
>>4786967

>>4787057
how is yotsuba racist

>>4787027

ok i will remember correct head proportions i noticed i have a habit of making it too big
>>4786972

ok i will read loomis, was planning to as its reccomended to everyone in the first place. is there any other thing i could read that would help as well?

>>4787072
Hampton for Gesture.
Vilppu too, provided you can feel the form.

I did a block out of a Daumier sketch. I'm finally learning the foundational stuff and I'd like to know which of my skills/knowledge are good and what I need to work on.

Also, is it a problem that it took me two hours to make this?

This time I am going more anime. Would the image look better if I spent more time drawing a black lineart? Just went straight to painting on one layer.

>>4785968
Get outta here you’re good

How to gain potential? also what should I draw?

Should I even keep going boys? I feel like I've stagnated even though today was a 4 hour drawing day.
I feel like once I reach the apex and finally attain the skill I want ill be empty and uninspired. Its happened a lot to me in life from sports to school.
I hate the grief but at the same time it's the only thing that can keep me invested.
For months I've drilled fundies but am still incapable of applying them properly. Maybe I'm just not a artist.

>>4787206
the proportions on this face are correct, aren't they? why does it look off to me? explain pls to /beg/

I've failed again, tried to draw a dog's face but it's among my worst drawings right now, everyone else here seems to be talented, everyone but me

>It’s better to make, again, our halfway a little more chin for heroic reasons without the hairstyle.

STUDY TIME LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

it's another failure, failure after failure
So follow me up cause this shit 'bout to go (Down)
I'm doing 500, I'm outta control (Now)
But there's nowhere to go (Now)
And there's no way to slow (Down)
If I knew what I knew in the past
I would've been blacked out on your ass

drew a bitch

N-now th-that that don't kill me
Can only make us stronger
I need you to hurry up now
‘Cause I can't wait much longer
I know I got to be right now
‘Cause I can't get much wronger
Man, I've been waiting all night now
That's how long I been on ya
>>4787441
hey you, answer on behalf of the thread, why is everyone so talented here but me?

>>4787407
The eyes are two different sizes which is weird, and the hair isn't voluminous enough on top. Other than that, it looks fine.

>>4787451
>>4787445
you too, shall answer

>>4787320
>>4787413
>>4787437
>>4787445
Go to the vent thread, you fucking schizo.

If I flip my canvas and my drawing looks deformed, is it really deformed or is just a visual illusion?

>>4787407
I've been fighting on where to place her mouth and the eyes where not placed with the most care. I feel I made her face a little long and her eyes are huge.

>>4787457

>>4787457
Agreed. Nobody fucking asked for his diary entries.

>>4785436
I too, failed here yesterday
You too, shall answer me, the pulse.
>>4787468
You too, shall answer me, the pulse

>>4787451
thanks. i need to get better at observing

>>4787468
>>4787457
In fact, I want you to examine this
This is not my drawing yet these three follow the same thing, KEYS TO DRAWING

>>4787476
>>4787468
>>4787457
this is also not my drawing

>>4787463
go to the vent thread you fucking schizo's

>>4787481
>>4787470
I failed to quote you >>4787457
>>4787468
now now, you shall answer me >>4787476
my drawing, done following the same teachings is clearly, regrettably, inferior, what's the reason?

How should I study references on digital? Side by side? Resize the image or move to another screen?

>>4787486
it looks amazing. the added lemon on his head shows great creativity and is proof of your unique style and personality. well done!

>>4787470
Go draw

>>4787487
depends on your skill level. level zero is literal tracing, then a 1:1 copy makes it a little bit harder, put it on a second monitor to make it a bit harder, stop doing 1:1 and just learn ratios and proportion, with enough work you will start using references just to fill your visual library so you can create things without copying.

you can actually make money just by tracing like in pic

>>4787462
ah. it looks good i just figured it was a problem with my observational skills. trying to get to where i can see correct proportions intuitively just by looking at something but i suck at it so far

>>4787481
>>4787457
>>4787468
All my life others, like you, look down on me, sometimes, not in all things mind you, I've felt as if Lady Fortune herself did not favor me, everyone else is special but not me, talented unique special, but not me.
>>4787491
That's a failed attempt at an eye but you only seek to mock me, I loathe you and all like you, if only the ban wouldn't come to me as quickly as rudeness comes to you, I would describe in explicit detail the many ways I would make you suffer.
>>4787495
I shall, but my quest for answers goes ignored, my fellows prefer to loathe me

wanted to try drawing something mostly from imagination. i wanted him to be facing away, but looking toward the camera with a somewhat disgusted expression. I havent really coloured heads anything beyond greyscale before either, so id love some tips

I tried my best to sketch a face with no reference, after a week of practice.

>>4787513
Ah, the shining talent, even better than me
I TRULY AM LUCIFER FOREVER STUCK IN THIS PERSONAL WINTER
>>4787495
I'm drawing at the moment, thought I'd let you know

>>4787513
There's no way you drew that after a week. Bullshit.

>>4787503
you cause enough suffering already, there's no need to over-do it.

>>4787524
YES YOU TOO
PLEASE FEEL LIKE ME
SHOW ME THAT IM NOT ALONE
PLEASE DESPAIR OVER TALENT
>>4787526
nice try

>>4787499
i started on the second monitor stage last week and i am absolutely abyssmal at it. I spent 30 minutes just on copying a simple standing anatomy figure today

>>4787529
i will kick your legs out from under you until you grow strong from standing back up. If you don't get up I'll step on your face until you grow stronger from slapping my foot away. If you bury your face in the mud I'll stomp on your head until you gain the anger to defend yourself. Only if you give up and die, will I truly laugh.

I think that I did something wrong here but I'm not sure what.

>>4787618
nose is fucked up on one side

hand is poorly constructed

not much of a regular /beg/ but i would like to know which is the best site to upload your shit.
So far i've got my twitter/pixiv (even a minds account lmao) and upload my stuff on rule34xxx.
Should i really bite the bullet and add a deviantart? Or just keep uploading to a single site and let bots reupload the pics to their sites?

>>4783527

>>4783501

>>4785475
>>103516
Day 2: electric boogaloo

hope you guys dont mind me posting the days of it, and critique is always appreciated

Tried to do this but I don't think I did a good representation of it, too messy

I need help with his anatomy, are the proportions of his limbs spot on? Also any hints of how to make his body look more attractive without putting abs?

>>4787107
Why did you construct something that's supposed to be a lose sketch? Not trying to be mean, the construction you did looks pretty good. Just wondering.

I dont know what to do for colors, I just throw them on like whatever. Is there really a wrong way to colour?

This look remotely right to you guys?

>>4787769
the anatomy isnt wrong, there just isnt gesture, flow, life, anything in the image. It is stiff and soulless

>>4787819
again, stiff

>>4787529
Alright I'll bite. I'm confused as of what it is you want from this thread. Encouragement? Attention? A answer to questions that no one but you can answer?

>>4787760
I think you made the face a little too narrow

look at the lips vs the original

>>4787820
>there just isnt gesture,
ok thank you a lot I'll find a way to add more gesture to it

>>4787769
unironically vilppu, proko or hampton. Like >>4787820
said, your drawing has no gesture or flow, or any resemblance of form. The proportion is pretty good, with the exception of the head. If you want to make his body attractive, try constructing it with volume in mind.

What triggers trypophobes
the holes I'm drawing just look like half colored chocolate chips

>>4787844
Thanks a lot for the tips anon, I'll upscale the head
>vilppu, proko or hampton
These names help learning more about this gesture and volume stuff, right? I'll take a look

>>4786963
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>>4786971
>am I beg
yea anime sucks and is easy mode so the least you could do is be a little bit more on model. That's just my opinion on that genre. I like the old anime of the good old days. Here's some of mine, these too could use a more accurate touch up but fug it you can get away with shit in anime

You're not too bad tho, good stuff just keep at it

oh that's what that guy meant by bing lmao

>>4787828
Just honest criticism, advice and feedback.
>>4787830
Yeah, true, well I can't really change that but I always miss the mark on measurements

>>4787828
it's attention. I actually haven't been posting as much when he's around ever since he stopped posting with a trip to become unfilterable. But I suppose that could be a positive

>>4786724
This is sick dude nice shit

>>4787877
>heres some of mine
could've fucking fooled me. Looks fucking on point with the originals. God, Toriyama's style is so easy and fun to draw

dont mind the hair, i was testing brushes

>>4787844
I'm >>4787820

Thank you for the (You) /adv/ senpai

>>4787769

>>4787657
bumping for this

>>4787657
>>4788019
Probably Twitter

>>4787760
You made him look like George Floyd

>>4788027
somebody post that george floyd pic where hes under the knee and hes panicking with his eyes all crazy wide making that hilarious face.
as a reference

I FELT THE FORM

>>4787947
too kind thanks

getting the hang of doing stuff digitally

>>4788098
Dangerously close to devito

>>4787107
What's happening here?

Need to sit down and learn eyes instead of symbol drawing circles.

Also every other body part. But mostly eyes.

new thread >>4788236


new thread >>4788236


new thread >>4788236

Bros how the FRICK do I "have fun doodling" when I'm shit at everything??
It sucks so bad to be shit. I don't even know how to do anything that isn't
>follow the book but be shit at it

>>4788240
Bro don't do me like this.

>>4788873
>Accept you're still bad
>Don't care about the end result too much
>????
>Profit