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4771107 No.4771107 [Reply] [Original]

Why do artists suffer so much?

>> No.4771113

They're retarded

>> No.4771114

>>4771107
Lonely. Horny.

>> No.4771155
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4771155

Because they are terrible people

>> No.4771157

cunnies isn't real

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>>4771155
Shut the fuck up, you don’t know a damn thing about me, I’m not terrible, it’s everyone else that was terrible first which made me become as cynical and angry as I am now, it’s not my fault the world is terrible, it’s not my fault that I lash back out at everyone when they treat me like dog crap, I’m not responsible for other people’s shitty behavior, fuck you bitch ass punk ass faggot ass nigga

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>>4771107
We dared to have dreams past college.

>> No.4771187
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>>4771155
Based, fuck trannies

>> No.4771195

>>4771107

Lone pursuit betraying out tribalistic roots. Taking the hard fought path to self actualization only to become completely isolated.

>> No.4771197

high neuroticism, low conscientiousness

>> No.4771200

>>4771187
I sure would love to, cap’n.

>> No.4771213

>>4771107
Because most people don't appreciate art. You either learn to enjoy art as a form of pure egoism, drawing only for yourself or you end up drawing waifu of the week to appeal to the normalfags and get some coins and virtual asspats thrown at you, at the cost of losing your love for art and turning it into a just a tedious job with little to no creativity.

>> No.4771260

>>4771213
TRUTH, + become a cog in the gaming/entertainment industry

>> No.4771269

>>4771187
Lol right? https://twitter.com/astarstiger/status/1289437149851340801?s=21

>> No.4771276

>>4771107
they dont really, improving at drawing is hard but its also fun and fulfilling, alot of other groups of people suffer much more

>> No.4771291

>>4771107
>tfw i fantasize about sexy time and cuddles with the girls i draw
GOD PLS GIVE ME A GF IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK

>> No.4771298

>>4771291
when you have a gf you'll wish you didn't have her to begin with sooner or later

>> No.4771305

>>4771298
Give me your gf

>> No.4771313

>>4771197
Based and big5pilled

>> No.4771314

>>4771305
just buy her on 3ds

>> No.4771329

>>4771107
Because they're drama queens who think they're special just because they know how to draw, and that everyone else are assholes for not respecting their profession the way they respect doctors, engineers, plumbers, or anyone who learned trades that are actually useful to society.

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>>4771329
> drama queens who think they're special
I am
> doctors, engineers, plumbers, or anyone who learned trades that are actually useful to society.
Fuck your gay and dumb society

>> No.4771354

>>4771329
>drama queens who think they're special just because they know how to draw
>engineers
architects are both and they are even worse
i know what im talking about

>> No.4771356

>>4771329
without art there would be no civilized people

>> No.4771359

>>4771329
>tfw I’m a licensed engineer making $90k/year and still draw more than 99% of this board

>> No.4771362

>>4771329
>OMG WHY ARENT YOU USEFUL TO SOCIETY
i don't give a fuck. Why are you even here, nigger?

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>>4771314
Done.

>> No.4771375

>>4771329
based

>> No.4771385

>>4771329
>he thinks entertainment isn't useful to society

>> No.4771389

because they are chasing something they can never archieve
an everlasting road of trying and failure never being good but always trying to get better

>> No.4771393

>>4771385
bread and circuses, art is in there somewhere, cant quite put my finger on it

>> No.4771397

>>4771107
No money

>> No.4771400

>>4771329
Without art, people would be killing themselves more.

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>>4771291
Why fantasize about having sexy time and cuddling with the girls you draw when you could just draw it?

>> No.4771705

>>4771107
they're just whinier

>> No.4771720

>>4771668
I'm not a coom coom, i just like erotic stuff .
Like the birth of venus for example

>> No.4771733

>>4771162
Not sure if shitpost or not. I know people who are this lacking in self awareness.

>> No.4771745

>>4771720
>he doesn't know how to do it non-coom
ngmi

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>>4771733
>I know people who are this lacking in self awareness
I don’t understand what you mean by this? I’m fully self aware, I’m in touch with humanity. I understand I’m angry, and why I’m angry, but I have a good reason for everything I do. I’ve only drawn these conclusions with logic for the most part, and again, it’s not my fault everyone else is shitty. As a matter of fact, I don’t even need to be a “good person” in the conventional sense, since just by being less shitty than everyone else, I’m effectively a saint by normal standards, though I already believe I’m more talented and special than most of the fools I share this existence with. Nothing happens in a vacuum, I understand some of my actions and philosophy may be interpreted as immoral, but it’s only because I was pushed into doing it, I don’t have any other choice but to be cruel in this evil world filled with evil people. So no, it’s not a shitpost.

>> No.4771779

>>4771758
you should make new friends or move out from your place

>> No.4771828

>>4771269
Great work. Also I agree with what you said about Atheists. Kek

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>>4771720
Based same with me here is another piece similar to The Birth of Venus name is in file name.
Enjoy :)

>> No.4771898

I'm horny

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>>4771733
Ironic. He could see a lack of self-awareness in others, but not himself.

>> No.4771936

>>4771155
>>4771187
Why does /ic/ have so few trannies, I thought this board was trash? On /g/ you guys would've gotten a ton of replies about how you are evil bigots

>> No.4771992

>>4771936
>Why does /ic/ have so few trannies
too busy spamming r9k

>> No.4772012

>>4771107
because it's what we deserve.

>> No.4772017

>>4771936
Honestly I dont know. Im always surprised by it too. /v/ and /g/ are probably the most faggy boards when it comes to "muh ebil bigots".

>> No.4772048

>>4771936
Too busy dilating to bother learning how to draw. That's why all their avatars are shitty, low /beg/ anime waifus

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>>4771107
I don't suffer
I draw my own porn

>> No.4772065

>>4771107
Loneliness (mentally and often times physically) and poverty for a lot of them.

>> No.4772195

Because most of us are not normies.

>> No.4772263

>>4772017
Fuck trannies. Holy shit thank god i don't live in usa or sweden

>> No.4772267

>>4771107
Your drawing is how you view the world.
And you trying to push your views unto others will most likely fail.
And that makes you feel unaccepted by others.
That's why we all suffer until we make it.
Until we get accepted.

>> No.4772331

>>4771155
trannies do the 41%

>> No.4772337

>>4771107
because our parents failed us

>> No.4772348

>>4772195
most of us are faggots

>> No.4772355

>>4771936
They've tried colonizing us but we are protected by crabbism.

>> No.4772387

>>4771107
Because artists themselves are insufferable pieces of shit.

Have you ever met an artist that is proud or happy with their work? No you haven't because they never will be satisfied with themselves.

They'll constantly tell themselves to push and be better when they themselves don't put in the work. They then get mad and angry at those who do and whine about how much their art sucks and how they don't get any likes.

I'm sick of it. If you hate your art then quit drawing. Literally no one will beg you to continue because there are thousands of people like you and can outdo you in skill.

Just because you draw or consider yourself an "artist" doesn't mean you're important or should have a platform to speak on.

"ANYONE" can be an artist but not everyone can be a "SKILLED" artist.

If you want to give up art, I'll encourage you. Why would I encourage you to stay in a career that you hate? Are you a masochist or one of those retarded "suffering artist" types.

If you don't enjoy what you do then quit.

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>>4771936
gee i dunno

>> No.4772406

>>4772387
>Because artists themselves are insufferable pieces of shit
Yeah, but your average e-artist is a 15y.o. delusional and entitled faggot who firmly believes anything and everything should revolve around them because ads tell them to be faggots and their parents didn't beat the retard out of them from a young age.

>> No.4772410

>>4771107
they don't, they suffer the least

>> No.4772414

>>4772387
>>4772406
Damn, no wonder this whole board is like this.

>> No.4772417

>>4771107
Because it's one of the hardest skill to get good at and the reward is very minimal compared to the effort you have to put in

>> No.4772419

>>4772417
>one of the hardest skill to get good at
yeah
>the reward is very minimal
no

>> No.4772427

>>4772414
Not that difficult to figure that out, anon.

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>>4771936
Why do trans-folk live rent-free in the minds of everyone on 4chan, even on the boards that they don't frequent?

>> No.4772441

>>4772387
sorry crab but i'll keep making art
go suck a dick

>> No.4772442

>>4772438
>muh trans boogie man

>> No.4772443

>>4772438
Because you are insufferable autists who ruin everything.

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>>4772438
You heard of cope
>cope
>schizo
now get ready for the new tranny buzzword
>rent-free
good thing you're gonna kill yourself

>> No.4772450

>>4772438
>Why do trans-folk live rent-free
because they all have autism and are basically unemployable outside of sexwork

>> No.4772461

>>4771107
i visit /ic/. i see shit threads. i suffer in anger.

>> No.4772483

>>4771779
You're just a dime-a-dozen NGMI.

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>>4771779
>I don’t agree with what he’s saying, so he must be underage hue hue hue
I’ve already addressed the fact that I don’t need friends, everyone is shitty and they’re my enemies, they’re the people I’m competing with. I hate smarmy self righteous faggots like you who think they know everything, who think they’re better than me, when they’re really not. Reminds me of these two fat fucks from middle school art class, those slimy fags always turned up their noses at me, when they’re both just weak, pasty normies. If I ever got my hands on them now...
>>4771900
>>4772483
I know right?

>> No.4772576

>>4772570
this is called narcissism, go get help retard

>> No.4772583

>>4771107
immaturity

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>>4772576
It’s not narcissism if I really am the person I claim to be. I had to go to a hiring event a week or so ago. When I got there, I noted I was the best person there. I was better looking and stronger than nearly everyone there, and I was almost certainly smarter. I understand that I’m no where close to my full potential, but even so, I’m already better than something like 99% of the world’s population. It’s not narcissism, it’s well deserved confidence. I’ll admit I have a few moments of dubious morality, but it’s all perfectly explainable and justifiable for me. For instance, there were these two bitches that were head over heels for me, as every woman should be and most likely is, but I couldn’t go out with them since they were so far beneath me. They were 4s or 5s at best, whereas I’m at least a 6, closer to an 8, though I know it’s only because the challenge of not being perfect is suited to my ability. I did hang around them for the self esteem boost, but I was pretty couched overall, still my face helps conquer many obstacles. I’m enlightened, and if I can enlighten just one other person, all my struggles will have been worth it.

>> No.4772616

two cents from a casual lurker on /ic/;

if you're suffering as an artist, get your shit together and start focusing on bettering yourself instead of using drawing as some kind of dreamy escapism where you spend all of your time thinking about what you wanna make and then never actually following through. like another anon said, you'll just end up hating your art anyways and won't ever be satisfied at that rate so why bother making yourself more miserable?

i love art. i just like to create things and it makes me happy. i work hard at it cuz i want to draw like the people i look up to, and i enjoy the process of turning an idea into something visual. i don't think it's a competition and i like artists who are better than me because then i can learn from them instead of throwing a pity party and feeling sorry for myself.

>>4772570
bruh you need to gow pair and stop bitchin'. if the world is shit, you're only adding to it so forget the high horse and stop agonizing over pointless bullshit like getting your panties in a bunch over peoples' attitudes. idiots come and go, you can't do a thing about it, so spend your time doing something useful and adopt a better view instead of acting like an edgy middle schooler.

welcome to reality & leave your baggage at the door.

>> No.4772618

>>4772616

*grow a pair.

damn typos smfh

>> No.4772632

>>4772589

damn did everyone clap at the end too?

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>>4772616
>just ignore the brutal truths of reality and grow a pair, BRO!!!
I’m not a fool, I know what it is I’m doing, but any good one tries to do is effectively pointless if it’s not large scale change since human nature is the ultimate foil to goodness. I have every right to take the high horse, since the world wronged ME, not the other way around. I’m not an edgy middle schooler, and you’re insane if you think adopting a positive mindset is the right way. You think you’re right, I think the same but for myself (only I know I’m right). However, my “attitude” as you call it works. I know how people work, and how to win. My cynical views tied in with my witty tongue enable me to make friends easily, as well as my pretty face. I have no difficulty socializing beyond the fact that I hate most others and see them as beneath me. Despite being such a realist, it’s because of my enlightenment that I’m able to continue pushing forward to get the things I want. I’ve been called a narcissist, a chunk you, a dunning Kruger retard, but I’ll tell you what I really am. A god amongst men, and nothing less.
>>4772632
Laugh while you still can. I’m smart, and capable, and one day, I’ll climb to the top of the hierarchy, and rain down hell on those that deserve it. My version of the truth, my version of what is just and right is the correct one. Ciao, imma draw now.

>> No.4772673

>>4772671
*chunibyou, goddamn it

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>>4772671
The NPCbeta fears the Hyperaware Sociopathic Chad

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>>4773033
Thank you anon, finally someone who gets it

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>>4773061
You're welcome.

>> No.4773085

>>4773081
>>4773061
Checkem

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>>4773085
I closed my browser and tried to draw, failed then came back, so I have no means of proving it, but I do know I have supporters even here, because I’m the king of kings. So rest assured, I wouldn’t (You) myself, it would be detrimental to my majesty and undermine me if such an accusation were proved true. I only lie to get what I want irl from normies and NPCs, not on a foreign fishing forum for attention. (You) can be certain everything I say on here is demonstrably true

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>>4773101
based and frogpilled

>> No.4773121

>>4773081
blog?

>> No.4773130

>>4773118
I’m so lonely and horny.

>> No.4773138

>>4773118
is there a pic of this painting without the whore in the way?

>> No.4773155

>>4773138
It only got 50 likes and was lost on the internet.

>> No.4773204

>>4772671
Cringe larp

>> No.4773226

>>4772447
Based

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>>4773204
>cringe
Subjective, but I’d argue not
>larp
Not at all. I live in the real world, where people are cold and unforgiving, and so I take every measure possible to ensure I have a shot at winning. I live in reality, and I know the way things are. As far as lying or misleading people goes, like I said before, I only do that to nor miles and NPCs in the real world, not online. Here, I speak the truth freely because I know that the rotten little niggery hive mind possessing the average person can’t persecute me for stating what’s on my mind, the truth that I ever so constantly ponder. Here, you all get to witness the evolution of a man whose boots you’ll one day be licking clean for a chance to gain power and influence like the dirty little opportunistic pigs you all are. While I might look you in the eye, smile, and shake your hand, that doesn’t mean we’re equals, it just means that you’re all a bunch of rotten cowardly animals who oppress real talent with your idiocy. But I’ll forgive that, since you’ll one day be on the receiving end of my rage as I punish the bad people who deserve it (legally). Sayonara, anon kun

>> No.4773250

>>4773242
why is the CEO of based on /ic/?

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>>4773242
how based can an anon be?

>> No.4773559

>>4772671

ok chad, have fun trying to live out your pseudo-intellectual power fantasy and try not to cut yourself on all that edge lel

if you're smart and all that, good for you. but even if you make it anywhere to the top of the 'hierarchy', you're just gonna become another one of the soulless asshats you seem to have a hate boner for.

i do what i want and do it cuz i enjoy it; i don't need to be fueled by the want for retribution or revenge because i keep my shit to myself and stay out of others peoples' shit too. if i let my own happiness hinge on the state of the world, i'd be fucked.

but hey, you do you bro. i'm just here to have a laugh and dick around

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>>4773559
> ok chad, have fun trying to live out your pseudo-intellectual power fantasy and try not to cut yourself on all that edge lel
Beyond cringe and buzzwordy
>if you're smart and all that, good for you. but even if you make it anywhere to the top of the 'hierarchy', you're just gonna become another one of the soulless asshats you seem to have a hate boner for
No. Power may corrupt, but it will never corrupt ME, since the things I want are a bit more abstract than the standard nonsense others go for, and I have a stronger will than every man that’s walked before me. And I, a man who was born into a poor bunch of losers, who’s always been lumped together with losers, will EARN my place at the top. I may not even need to climb to the top as directly as all that, since merely acquiring status and reaching the right circles would mean that I don’t have to win if I can make others lose, whether that be through introducing impressionable, vulnerable fools to the pleasure of opiates, or through winning trust and backstabbing them and tossing them off the mountain to grovel in the dirt where they belong. I will make the world a better place, for myself sure, but every innovation in mankind’s history had some sort of selfish motive behind it, and through my ideals, I’ll enact justice.
> but hey, you do you bro. i'm just here to have a laugh and dick around
Ah, you’re one of those “positive vibes” cringe normies. At any rate, I’ve had enough for today. Narcissist, chunibyou, dunning Kruger, retard, and now pseudo intellectual. All these words and more mean nothing to me, since I’ll rise above every single person who had the nerve to say them. I’m off to go read more mango

>> No.4773655

>>4771936
>so few
That's interesting as there are far too many here as it is. I can't imagine how bad it must be on /g/.
>>4772438
DILATE

>> No.4773657

>>4773242
>>4772671
You need to spend time off the internet.

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>>4773559
>plebbitspacing
>"HEY BRO U DO U I DONT CARE BOUT U CUZ I A M H A V I N G F U N AND NO IM NOT INSECURE AND I DO NOT FEEL THREATENED BY YOU BECAUSE I PERCEIVE YOU AS BETTER THAN ME BECAUSE MAYBE YOU SHOULD STOP BEING BETTER THAN ME BECAUSE I FEEL BAD ABOUT MYSELF BRO IM JUST HAIVNG FUN BRO HAHA"
Imagine being this assblasted by words from some stranger on the internet

>> No.4773924

>>4773603
Cringe tldr post but you've posted my husbando so you get a (you)

>> No.4773999

>>4771213
>You either learn to enjoy art as a form of pure egoism
>you end up drawing waifu of the week to appeal to the normalfags and get some coins and virtual asspats

Is it only either way or another? I noticed I'm on the second one, progressively losing interest, I still love my art, but I really not liking this behaviour of drawing to get people's approval, and they don't even approve given my stuff have been flopping hard these days

>> No.4774011

>>4773603
Man, I wonder, if you larp this hard, does it actually become true? You a fan of 'the secret', anon?

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>>4772671
this retard again

>> No.4774119

>>4773603
okay, have fun with that e-chad. don't let replying to me stop ya from all that important shit you gotta do

>> No.4774121

>>4774102
Kek, he’s my favorite new mentally ill poster

>> No.4774130

>>4773857

holy fuck that was hilarious.

thanks for giving me my first 4chan roasting, anon.

but hey; the next time you re-write my posts, don't forget to space everything out k? ;)

>> No.4774420

"coomer art is suffering" - buddha

>> No.4774550

>>4774130
ok tranny

>> No.4775599

>>4774102
This guy is funny though. I'm a hundred percent positive it's shitpost and i still enjoy the read anyways

>> No.4776648

OH GOD I'M SO HORNY AND LONELY FFFFUUUUUCCCKKKI

>> No.4777811

>>4772589
Oh you're that guy

>> No.4777820

>>4773603
Just curious, how do you think you'll climb to the top of the "hierarchy"? Like, concretely

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>>4774011
‘The secret’? Nani is that desu ka?
>>4775599
I’m dead serious buddy, I’m as cool as a cucumber and my dick is as thick and long as one too, so it’s only natural for me to be confident
>>4777820
Glad you asked. Well, there’s a number of ‘paths’ to get there, but I have 4 strong assets backing me up, the 4 corners of my brilliance, if you will. None of them are at their full potential either, so further growth may occur. The first, I have exceptional intelligence, much higher than 99% of the oxygen thieves I share this world with. The second, my excellent social skills. While I can be shy and awkward at times, or hostile and aloof, it’s mainly due to my dislike of others and also knowing how different I am, but I have next to no difficulty getting others to warm up to me, and I’ve done this many times, so even if they’re quite rusty now, I should have no trouble leveling them back up since I know what I’m capable of, and how other people are. Third, I have a pretty face. Not supermodel quality, but the ‘blandsome’ look like pic related. I unfortunately deal with skin blemishes like most others my age and I’m not as lean as I could be, but since those are both changeable, and I have plenty of female attention even as is, I’m not too concerned. Last, my will. After suffering by the hands of the imbeciles in this world for so long, my determination burns hotter than a thousand suns, so I’ll keep trying as long as it takes. For reaching the ‘apex’, my attributes will help, and I also am willing to endure a great deal of pain for it. I have no real regard for interpersonal relationships, and I’m willing to make many sacrifices too. Saving up and investing money may be the way to go, as well as using my charm and good looks to sway people to my side. I’m destined for great things, I know I am. I know you and others may never make it there, but don’t worry. I’ll make the world a better place, for me and everyone else.

>> No.4777979

>>4772671
Can I ask a question?

What causes someone with such self-confidence and social grandeur to browse 4chan at all? Why come to the dank, pitiful sewers of society itself if you despise those beneath you?

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>>4777979
Well, Quarantine has me locked indoors so I need to amuse myself, also I didn’t there are good resources here and good keks to be found. I don’t despise those beneath me for being inherently lesser, rather, I despise them for the things they do which screw me over, and everyone seems to love doing that. I have to interact with the world at least a little and be somewhat fault tolerant, otherwise I’d be a complete hermit and recluse. Plus, the demographic here isn’t comprised entirely of normies, which I passionately loathe.

>> No.4778722

>>4777993
Are you bipolar

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>>4773118
>>4773130

>> No.4781140

>>4771107
Cause ow.

>> No.4781157

>>4772671
pyw lol

>> No.4781420

>>4771176
prince of zimbabwe is so fucking gay man
I hate his videos

>> No.4782073

>>4771359
okay notboogie

>> No.4782099

>>4781135
DOES SHE LURKS HERE SORRY CAPS WONT REWRITE IT

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>>4771329
>He fell for being useful to society meme

>> No.4783465

>>4771107
Because they suck at what they do.

>> No.4783469

>>4771107
Don;t get jealous/envy on others and try drawing what you like and you wont suffer

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>>4778722
Maybe just a little. Few days ago I felt like the king of the world (which I am). Now, I feel violently angry and solemnly sad. Maybe I am just a piece of shit after all. I didn’t even really enjoy jacking off today because I could see right through all the ugly sluts on the screen, even in hentai. They’re all fake, disgusting animals. I’m better than that, and one day, I’ll get my (legal) revenge on these scumbags.

>> No.4784522

>>4784261
:(

>> No.4785929

>>4784261
Godspeed anon. May you one day find a woman, either 2D or 3d that is worthy of your seed