/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4769333
>my ancestor

>>4769333
Apмянкa пpoтив aнимe?

>>4769333
We wuz anime nd shiet

>>4769333
>takes the weeb pill
>increase gainz tenfold
As such many cases

>>4769333
Weird. I've noticed a lot of beginner artists start out with manga style and then develop away from it as they get better. Not this one...

>>4769431

>>4769339
Yes İvan
Armeni agains turk

here's my progress. I drew the same character three years later.

>>4769333
July, monthly update. At this rate for 2020, I can beat my 2014 ghost for more days drawing, but I can never beat his gains.

>>4769431
>>4769443
why are zoomer memes so incredibly shit bros

>>4769431
>>4769443
Wholesome memes are nice.
Keep working hard,frens!

>>4769637
>hyperpiper
Mah man

>>4769637
You have too much time on your hands.

>>4769629
you're on the right track

>inb4 die coomer

One of my WIP on the right. I feel like I’m not improving fast enough.

>>4769637
>2015
Holy shit, you just gave me so much hope. I swear I remember seeing that robot from 2019 too.

Do you have any tips on what to do to improve as fast as you did?

Still, a long way to go but it's something.

>>4769674
Nips are too dark. Cum is too yellow, lines are too dark

>>4769333

>>4769674
Nips are too dark. Cum is too yellow, lines are too dark.

But good work, how do you study?

Made really quick because phonefag, if you wanna see more I can make an elaborate one on pc.

>>4769800
Thanks for the pointers, senpai, I’ll work those suggestions into the drawing.
I look at drawing/coloring/rendering diagrams and pictures I find on the internet and incorporate what I find to be the most appealing into the picture I have in my head.

>>4769333
2016 was better than 2019 lmao

>>4769881
anime is not an art

my progress

>>4769674
>>4769798
These 2 are nice. I have been drawing for a similar time and I still can't render at all and its making me feel miserable. I think I might be fucking retarded, colorblind or both

>>4769637
nice progress but your style is still stuck in the past

>>4769898
This diagram helped me render better, anon. It’s easy and simple.

>>4769898
This too.

>>4769958

Can this be translated into a relevant language?

>>4769958
>>4769961
Thanks frend. Will try these

>>4769896
That's pretty good for a year. What did you do?

>>4770004
The text isn’t that important. I don’t speak Japanese and just relied on the pictures.

>>4769968
The text isn’t as important as you think. I don’t speak or read Japanese and just followed what I saw in the images.

>>4770016
I draw a lot and always use references

>>4769437
this one is GMI

>>4770004
Forgot to add. Also you’ll find this useful >>4769968

>>4770088
I tried this one before but failed miserably multiple times

I think i'm at least improving in making things a bit more detailed

>>4769333
this is literally just a style change. line quality and overall feeling of forms is the same. Pretty much the same flat non finished look.

>>4770102
You haven’t failed yet, my dude. Nobody gets it perfectly on the first or second or even the fifth try. Don’t be disappointed in yourself because I know you’ll get it if you really apply yourself.

>>4769662
T. Beglet

>>4770132
>You haven't failed yet
I'll have you know when it comes to art I fail. I have been failing daily for about 2 years already. Needless to say Im all around miserable.

>>4769807
Jesus Christ is that first one from Evistons course? Yes I would like to see more and actually hear your study style and improvement tips

>>4770157
I think you should find an art mentor, or someone who can keep you pointing in the right direction. Have you tried asking for advice here, anon? I’m sure there are people more than willing to help you with art and I’m sure it’s not as bad as you think it is.

>>4769333
is there 2020 update for this pic?

:>

>>4770303
cute stuff!

Updated the progress chart up to about as of last week. Currently grinding exercises to reach my internal goals for myself.

>>4770375
great progress frend

>>4770375
Solid progress, my dude!

from another thread

Also reposting from another thread

>>4769898
>colorblind
Have you tried rendering in greyscale first? I think removing that extra dimension of hue can really help get you started.

>>4770107
I think the lighting and appeal in 2020 definitely improved.

>>4769662

>an anon drawing all the time like /ic/ recommends and downright says is necessary to make it is now considered "too much time"

>>4769658
Ah, I never knew what that ref was from, thanks for the name drop

>>4769662
>too much time
I’m assuming you mean that I spent too much time making the infographic. Either way i had fun so I have no regrets.

>>4769679
>tips
Mileage and finish every drawing. More speed gets you mileage faster. Don’t detour around to get to your destination. If you like robots don’t study landscapes, (although you may later regret not seeing them on your trip)

Draw in pen, erasing is like driving around the parking lot for 30 min looking for the best spot, when you could have just parked farther away and walked in less time.

Don’t get too attached to a single drawing. Finish it, and then be excited to get on the road again. Enjoy the journey, not the destination.

>>4769914
How do I update to the present? Any style recs that are more present day?

>>4769431
>will quit smoking
I fucking wish

>>4770608
Don't fall for the anti smoking Jew. Tobacco is king shit.

>>4769637
I think I'm jealous.
I wish I had the willpower to draw as much so I could be as good.

>>4769674
>zero experience drawing
Haha talent is not real guys

>>4770607
> finish every drawing
not that anon but due to my nature i would spend 4+ hours on every single drawing to make it look the best i could going as far as redraw whole parts of it.is that too much?do you think i need to stop after 1-2 hours and move to the next?

>>4770560
that is one massive improvement! keep at it

>>4769629
proud of u anon

>>4770375
Itzel best girl

>>4770682
Mix it up? Instead of 1 perfect mega drawing that was developed with 4 tossed concepts, I like to complete 4 short partial ideas. So four 1hr drawings instead of one 4 hr drawing of the character, and if I’m still excited, I’ll do an extra uber drawing.

But I hate it when I drag a drawing out longer than a day. My favorite draws are usually just sketches. When I only do 1 drawing a day I feel very unsatisfied.

>>4770645
I think drawing is my vice. I am avoiding other work and hobbies for the guilty pleasure of drawing.

>>4769637
I might just be retarded, but I reverse image searched like 5 things from here and found nil

Who are you give blog pls?

>>4769629
Wth are u underage

>>4770819
Blog here >>4738077

>>4770220
I ask for advice but I mostly get ignored
>>4770560
I have tried grayscale. But even so I fail to make a light source consistent, shading is all over the place and everything looks muddy or wrong

>>4770969
Do you mind posting examples of what you tried? I'd prefer greyscale but anything rendering attempts in general is fine too.

>>4769786
Based Phantom of the Paradise art

>>4770980
This is one of the latest things I finished. I got help from another thread on getting the shadows on the last frame on the right places. But I really don't like the result, everything looks flat as hell.

>>4771346
You need more line weight and maybe some hatching friend.
(Also. Hi, I was the one who helped o/)

>>4771419
Thank you for you help. Really appreciate it. I would like to be able to set light sources right on my own but I always get it wrong big time. That's it without taking into account all the other underlying issues for which there are several.

>art got worse

>>4769886
>t. can't draw for shit

>>4769896

oh shit you're that anon that posted all those asuna drawings in beg threads almost a year ago, that's some good progress dude, how much do you draw?

>>4771498
I draw a picture like the last ones every day now but I don't know what educational value that always has, I should do more studies and doodles

>>4771498
OH SHIT ASUKAFAG INSTA DETECTED BRB

>tfw looking at all the other anons' progress makes me feel awful because my own progress is pathetic in comparison
I truly am ngmi

>>4769629
Soul.

>>4769637
>I can beat my 2014 ghost for more days drawing, but I can never beat his gains.
What did you do/draw in order to gain those gains in the first place? 2013/14 look like they are worlds apart

>>4771529
You and me buddy. Worst thing is I do draw and practice regularly

>>4769896
That sheek looks really good. He growing, bros.

>>4771590
I think I drew like 100 animation frames one week, maybe like 1000 figure drawings that year. Drew in pen. I just drew a lot. But I think early gains are much more easily obtained

Here is a sketch book, best month of 2014 https://twitter.com/tableguyart/status/1286437894442250241

>>4771625
- When you say animation frames, do you mean copies of paused cartoon/anime frames?
- I know it sounds retarded, but still: who or what was your figure drawing teacher/guide in the first place
- those are some neat bots that just pop up after 1:09, how did they come to be? They are way better drawn than the human ones

>>4769637
I honestly always liked your stuff for the machine part, rarely the for the girls. Much too learn from.
Keep it up, my guy.

>>4771346
Looks good to me, anon. I think you’re too hard on yourself.

>>4771633
>animation frames
I really like gainax and similar animations, so I took screen caps of KLK, TTGL, shanghai Batman, Kung fu cooking girls, and I just redrew the poses on paper with pen and quick marker.

>figure drawing teacher
Uh didn’t have one, I just did trial and error i guess. At some point i found a local figure drawing class, but it was just a model posing. No instructions. Figure drawing is probably my favorite part of drawing. It’s fun to capture the mood of the pose and the weight of the subject. Likewise, I hate faces, I don’t find them to be as expressive as a figure...

>bots
Everything is a study. I was doing studies for like 3yrs until /ic/ started giving me shit about it. The bots are probably just some cool robots I found on Pinterest. I didn’t really draw from imagination until like 2017. The green parts of the bar graph are slowly taking over the red >>4769637

I also really like robots. When you like something you spend more effort making it look how you want it. That’s why many people draw porn really well, because they draw with their dicks.

>>4771346
I’ve never really done a lot of the cel shaded look (or at least done a good job with it) so this is a little bit out of my wheelhouse but I put some basic lighting fundies in the picture. The big thing that stands out to me is her body below her tits would probably be somewhat in shadow with an overhead lighting. I think another thing that flattens your picture in the bottom panel is the highlights feel kinda randomly placed. Your highlights should be placed on the planes of the body most perpendicular to the direction of the light source. I’d say try practicing with a night time setting and a singular strong source of light. This should simplify the process of rendering quite a bit and help you get a better feel for defining forms with values.

>>4771664
Thanks for the answers. Seems like I'll have to finally pick up one of those figure drawing courses in the vid thread.

>Likewise, I hate faces, I don’t find them to be as expressive as a figure
I'd contest that point. Facial expression are a powerful tool.

>>4771686
Thanks. Will add this to my notes.
>>4771660
If anything Im not being hard enough. My progress and results are shite compared to anyone else (or even compared to myself, apparently I haven't made any decent progress for a whole year already)

>>4771735
Something to add to your notes cause I wanna stress this - think of the lighting process as a loop, as in
1. Take initial light source and light up surfaces this light is hitting
2. All surfaces that are lit up are reflecting light themselves
3. All those surfaces are also light sources, so back to step 1. but with a weaker light depending on the reflectiveness of the surface.

You don’t need to go too over the top but good usage of reflected light can add a lot of volume to the forms you’re trying to render.

>>4771607
>>4771529
Tbh I was drawing for like 4 years before I really started improving, and then something clicked and I improved a ton over the last year. Progress isn’t linear so if it feels like you’re stuck, don’t get discouraged!

>>4771798
So should I render light first and shadows last?

>>4771914
My personal approach is to figure out the value of the shadow, then light it up. Think of it as shining a light on an object. I find it helps, though if it doesn't I'm sure there's a ton of other ways to approach it. Marco Bucci made a pretty good video on lighting here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTYGWfiZnMA

>>4771914
>>4771927
Here’s a picture to illustrate how I approach rendering. I don’t know how it would work for a manga/cel shading type look, but I suspect if you can master this fundamental of lighting it will help you get where you want.

>>4769674
Looks good. I would recommend to work traditionally occasionally. Your work is good but just looks too digital and runs the risk of becoming a shadman knockoff.

>>4771927
>>4771945
Thank you for your help frend. Will go through this

>>4771954
Thanks for the tip, anon. I’ll keep that in mind and practice on trad art as well.

>>4771963
No problem. Don’t forget to develop your drawing skills as well, I know I talked a lot about rendering and lighting but I personally feel drawing is the foundation to it all - well developed linework will can often lend a lot of volume to your art even with minimal rendering

>>4771914
>>4771927

Sorry, I had to hurry quite a bit as I have to go to work. So basically the order you put in shadows or lights don’t really matter that much, if you want you can just put the more dominant one later depending on the environment.

But yeah, you have to determine quite a many things, but it does come without thinking after a while, your imitating life after all.

>>4772001
>>4771961
Agree on both points. When I talk about an order to adding lighter or darker values, it's to lay it out in a clearer way, but as you improve or even right off the bat you don't really need to stick to that order.

>>4769333
Left was a little after discovering /ic/ about 18 months ago and right was earlier today.

I feel like I could have made twice the progress if I had applied myself better.

I'm pushing myself to actually finish something instead of just grinding anatomy.

A long way to go. Having trouble layering clothes/armor ontop of the anatomy, even when using references.

She turned out much chonkier than intended even if she is meant to be musclethicc.

The underlying anatomy/gesture had her upper half leaning back but that was lost once I started the clothes/armour. I even tried to draw the armor over an angled box first to try and make sure that I would draw it at the right angle and perspective.

I don't think i'll finish it but more on to another clothed figure.

The cloth is meant to be quilted an not some weird fishnets. Not that I have anything against fancy butcher legs of pork.

>>4769333 (OP)
Left was a little after discovering /ic/ about 18 months ago and right was earlier today.

I feel like I could have made twice the progress if I had applied myself better.

I'm pushing myself to actually finish something instead of just grinding anatomy.

A long way to go. Having trouble layering clothes/armor ontop of the anatomy, even when using references.

She turned out much chonkier than intended even if she is meant to be musclethicc.

The underlying anatomy/gesture had her upper half leaning back but that was lost once I started the clothes/armour. I even tried to draw the armor over an angled box first to try and make sure that I would draw it at the right angle and perspective.

I don't think i'll finish it but more on to another clothed figure.

The cloth is meant to be quilted an not some weird fishnets. Not that I have anything against fancy butcher legs of pork.

>>4769674
so you decided somewhere along the line that anime is trash and western style is the superior one?

>>4772185
Oh I still have a soft spot for anime, but I tend to shy away from East vs West types of things. I’m just more comfortable drawing with a more western leaning style. I know my work is still a bit wonky and I’m still fixing the hair but the other anons gave some tremendous tips.
>>4772052
Good job anon, you’re making progress.

>>4772185
I still have a soft spot for anime, but I’m more comfortable drawing in a western leaning style. My work is still a bit wonky but the other anons here gave some tremendous tips that were really helpful.
>>4772052
Good job, anon. You’re definitely improving.

>>4772232
reminds me of a certain other artist... did you trace this?

>>4772001
>Sorry I had to hurry it
>Couldn't accomplish something like the image if I was given a full month
>Literally don't understand half of the text in the image, such as fully diffused, light and shadow pass or textured light
Is there a book or series of videos about fundamentals but for rendering?

>>4773592
Good progress anon

>>4773592
Anon I....

>>4769637
Hey anon I really like your art, design and color. Do you have an Instagram page? I have been search for it for a while but no result.

>>4773592
hehe

>>4773592
awesome anon, it looks like you are trying and serious progress shows on the June/July studies!

I really like those 2 profiles from june and the 3 girls in july...

>>4772238
No, sir, no tracing.

>>4773592
>13 years

Bro....

>>4773721
he went from drawing a few times every five years to a few months every 3 years. that's good progress.
I hope he sticks with it this time.

>>4773721
Longer than that. Obviously the 2007 pics weren't my first scribbles.

I need to start getting serious about art, but I don't think I'm doing too bad.

>>4772052
Absolutely getting better. The arms need a bit of work and the face, but it's clear you're getting better.

>>4773783
I hope you get better anon.
The pose is really stiff. The perspective is a bit confusing. I can't tell what's going on in the face. The backpack is a bit flat.
I like the colors and idea though.
Try doing more studies. Don't forget to draw every day. Use references.

>>4773799
The critique is heavily appreciated, thanks

March 2020

August 2020

>>4773807
nice

>>4770560
This is a major improvement, but even though shadows are by definition dark, you might want to light them up. It feels more like you're in the shadow of something than floating in the sky. Keep going, you're gmi

>>4770653
I mean talent is real, but it only really determines where you start, not how you end

>>4770701
Thanks!

>>4774002
Yeah I wasn't sure how much ambient light I needed for that situation, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!

>>4773180
check CGMA Art of Color & Light from the video course thread

>>4774113
The rare from soulless to soul

just started drawing last week, but for the past 3 days i feel like i'm really having fun with it so i'm looking up resources to study and improve. i havent really finished any drawings yet

>>4774113
soulless
SOUL

Still practising and trying to get better. Don't give up anons, sometimes you're just a retard and it takes a long time!

>>4774235
>impressive

>>4774322
I don't know of this is meant to be ironic or not.

>>4774235
>took me 14 years to get a tablet
ok.jpg

1 year of drawing
aug was when i first got my tablet
was unable to even draw below the bust back then

>>4774484
can't tell which is last, left have a better face than right

>>4774492
left was traced :(

>>4774493
the face and hands were at traced*

This is a fun thread.
Hope i have more time to draw.
It's great to see myself getting gains from practices.

>>4769333
/beg/s would get better so much faster if they sit their asses and studied loomis for a single week

>>4774386
There clearly have been other improvements too. pyw

>>4769810
No feedback? fuck

>>4774512
they look like their souls went out straight out their mouths

>>4774512
The reason you have no feedback is because there is too much to do, go study perspective followed by rendering simple forms and then anatomy, see you back here in two years

Is it possible to do Bargue plates in 12” x 18” instead of the massive 18x24 original size? It seems like people dramatically improve after that course.

>>4774620
Rendering and perspective before anatomy? Isnt the key to rendering coom stydying other artists and copying their techniques?

It was my first attempt at rendering a piece. I now mostly focus on
figure drawing and anatomy.

>>4774638
You cant do shit without perspective. Why do you think all the faggots are complaining about the other eye and drawing hands? Those subjects are heavily perspective dependant.

>>4774648
Draw a Box or Framed Perspective?

>>4774648
>Why do you think all the faggots are complaining about the other eye
select tool, ctrl+c ctrl+v, transformation tool, trace over the copied eye with minimal adjustments

>>4774685
That still require the knowledge of perspective

>>4774676
Prefer framed perspective. Draw a box can work if you actually understand what the fuck they're saying

>>4769798
Can you recommend me any tutorials you used to learn to draw anime style like that? I have 0 experience, and an old bamboo wacom tablet that is like 6 years old or maybe older. I want to start on a tablet, pen and paper isn't conducive to my desk space in my tiny studio apartment.

>>4774697
loomis babe

>>4774625
The smaller you do it the harder it is but you will still benefit.

>>4774697
https://drawabox.com/

>>4774697
idk, i am not a book/tutorials person, i can't spend more than half an hour reading/watching them without falling asleep
40% of my progress is from just drawing, 40% from watching other artists draw (streams/speedpaints), 15% from doing reference studies (such low percentage is not because they aren't effective, i just barely do them lmao), 5% from books/tutorials
the only book that definitely helped me is Scott Robertson's How to Draw, but even then i followed it only for 3 days and my perspective is still hot garbage

>>4769637
You’re amazing, dude.

>>4769443
>>4769650
why do zoomers always make this face like they're sucking a small dick covered in something really sour? what is this expression even supposed to mean?

>>4769629
Please be a qt jailbait

>>4770107
3rd > 1st > 4th > 2nd prove me wrong

>>4773785
>>4772232
Thanks guys. I know I am a little bit at a time but it's nice to know it's not just in my head.

Hoping that finally pushing myself to do full characters will help.

>>4770303
Soulful. Love it anon.

slaving

barely any drive or direction

I regressed in 2018, then missed 2019 for this redraw, but I think I've improved lol

>>4769629
SOUL vs EVEN MORE SOUL

>>4769662
Crab cuck seething at someone else's amazing improvement, cope and dilate retard

>>4775722
>When you made better improvements than 99% of the thread in less time.

Talent is real, this is not fucking fair. Fuck this gay earth.

>>4775722
mirin

>>4775722
next year she's gonna have an ant sized head

Kind of embarassing, but ok. I know i'm not gonna make it, you don't have to call attention to it.

>>4775936
i think you're making good progress anon. It looks like you are gaining confidence and branching out into creative pieces that interest you as opposed to sticking with learning materials by how 2020 looks

It was fun to dredge up a 15 year old pile of unfinished garbage to populate this.

Stopped completely between 2015-2019. The passion just kinda died. Started drawing again very occasionally last year. Only started drawing regularly again like three weeks ago. Thanks Covid-19.

>>4774716
Based loomis schizo weeding out the competition

>>4776385
No loomis and you’ll end up like these guys >>4776363
>>4774235
>>4773783
>>4773592

>>4776399
I'm not in the list. Yay

>>4776399
aw man that hurts

why you gotta be so negative

>>4769333
slowly getting there lads. I love you all

>>4776438
He is not wrong

>>4776438
if after 4 years you dont see a drastic change in your art you should ask yourself some question anon

>>4776461
Well like I said, literally didn't draw at all in that 4 years, and almost none last year. Only picked it up again due to quarantine

>>4775722
how long did you draw for before the first one?

>>4776399
Stop pushing this agenda, loomis schizo

>>4770251
holy shit that stack. cursed

>>4769896
i would unironically advise you to put as much distance between yourself and /ic/ as possible at this point. you have spent the past year getting screamed at constantly by people here telling you to kill yourself and stop drawing. you are now on the verge of becoming a popular artist. there will be mentally ill faggots here making constant threads about you, trying to doxx you, etc. this place will only destroy you past this point. leave now. never mention us again. i'm 100% serious. this isn't me being mean, you have the skills to make it on your own now.

Used a bunch of ref for left one. Right is from imagination.
IDK. It's something I guess.

>>4769896
Dude you are good, stop visiting this shithole of a board. /trad/cels will talk shit about your art nonetheless and seething crabcucks will scream loomis at you

How am I doing so far?

>>4776598
>>4776669
the average rate of dedicated schizo haters on /ic/ is about one per 100k followers, so i doubt he will be in trouble any time soon

>>4776925
better anatomy, but can't really see much form a WIP.

>>4769637
If I do 25/30 to 30/30 each month for 5 years and only made it to like 30% of your gains. should I quit already?

>>4777176
What a coincidence. I was just watching a documentary on the “demon core” an hour ago.

>>4769896
your rendering sucks, try experimenting with colour more.

One year of porn grinding, I didn't realize my skin rendering back then was so shit

>>4777240
based and cute and goals
one day i will be like you

>>4777240
how long you've been drawing?

>>4770251
I made this collab pic. I checked on him like two weeks ago, I think he stopped drawing, he is coding now and living on adsense money. He's a slav so it's enough to live comfortable life.

>>4777255
7 years minus 1 year hiatus, so 6 years. I draw like 3-6 hours a day almost everyday.

>>4777248
Thank you

>>4773614
Sorry no insta, only this twitter >>4738077

>>4777176
>should i quit
If you don’t like drawing, then you should probably quit. The only person worth comparing yourself to is yourself. I kept track of the days because I wanted to see if there was correlation between gains and mileage. Now I’m not so sure.

It could be exposure to new concepts and content. I only drew anime figure contours in 2013, but in 2014 i tried animation frames, doujin faces, robots, pen drawing, human faces. Everything after that is literally a loop of the 2014 study content.

Maybe try some new if you feel like you are stagnating. I think I’m going to try some backgrounds, color, story panels etc

The days/month drawing gets you polish, but it seems like the content variety moves the needle

>>4769629
All these years and you still haven't figured what the smoothing is there for

>>4776925
A Cute!

Do you know of Reynir by any chance?

>>4777240
>150k follower on nsfw account and 50k on sfw account
>$2.2k+ on patron a month
Holy shit you're making it. Congrats dude. How old were you when you started drawing?

>>4777262
make a 7 years version

>>4777466
I started pretty late, 27, I wish I realized that I only enjoy drawing sooner, maybe just a few years would make a strong impact to my career. 9 years wasted on college and wagecuck, fuck.

>>4777484
Dude you're doing pretty fucking great for yourself. Always nice to see someone find something they are good at later in life. Def earned a follow from me, cheers.

>>4777484
Do you have any older drawings you can post of when you first started out, you're hella motivation for me and one of the few people on /ic/ who actually made it

>>4769896
I don’t have anything good to post, but my current skill is basically you in the upper left area, looking forward to more improvement
>>4769637
I really like your style and subject matter, colorful and mechanical shit
>>4777484
So you’re like 30 something and you draw anime waifus? That’s beyond based, I hate the idea of growing up and I never wanna do it, I’ll forever be the 19 year old gigachad stud I am now

>>4769896
Can you post some of your earlier stuff?

>>4776399
I did say I wasn't really working hard.

>>4777517
>>4777471

These are some of my studies in my first 2 years into art. There're also still life and figure drawings of real models but I lost that sketchbook.

I was studied to work in the game industry back then, but desu, it's not that fun. I quit my assets rendering monkey job 2,5 years ago to focus on drawing anime waifus and build my own fanbase, I feel as good as ever.

>>4774768
why do millennials all make this face?

>>4777262
On one hand the 2020 is great for 6 years on the other hand the 2019 is pretty bad for 5 years

>>4777240
How did you get better at skin rendering anon, I need to get better at more detailed skin rendering too

>>4777922
God speed anon

You draw those mommymilkies

>>4778101
hey hey

>>4777633
The environmental thumbnails look really good, especially bottom right with the clouds illustration. Steady progress so far.

>>4777633
Did you self studied or actually went to school?

>>4777484
You're an inspiration my dude.

>>4775722
Do u have a blog anon?

>>4769637
how old are you

>>4777535
>>4771638
>>4774763
Thanks mechs are comfort zone, and i swear I must have low color sensitivity because everything i do is hyper saturated

>>4778262
Guess, i bet you can ballpark it

>>4778298
30

>>4769961
You saved my life

>>4778101
hey hey people

>>4769333
I improve my art a a sloth speed but I guess is something. Please tell me anything I can do to get better since I now fuck all about line art or coloring/shading.

>>4778342
Need more loomis and fundies

>>4778298
was thinking at least late 20's maybe a little after or a little before. can't think of anything exact.

>>4772232
the right tit looks so flat. Everything else looks great, but man that tiddy is off putting. good work tho dude!

>>4778357
>>4778303
I’m 33 and i have the aesthetics of a 18yr old from 2005. I think I stopped consuming new content after 2005...

>>4778372
do as you like and only good things will come from there further as it has been already

>>4770303
nice glow. i like these

And I'm still garbage and don't know fundamentals.

>>4775066
Why do you think that? I think 3rd and 1st are the worst by far

>>4778424
Total fucking bullshit, man. I remember you in /beg/ when I first started and it almost made me quit because I thought that was the level of quality I was supposed to be at.

You've picked up solid observation from removing every single case of symbol drawing from your left portrait and good color theory from those whites in the beard, clothes, and the nose. Maybe just find a way to change the texture on the hair top and baggy eye, maybe the nose is a little off too. But you've certainly improved immensely.

>>4778372
2005 is a solid year to end off on.

>>4777240
More like porn tracing

>>4777240
You're not going to improve until you stop hiding hands and using them.

>>4778372
I used to draw like that back in the day too, but lost that early 2000s spirit a long time ago. Props for keeping it.

>>4778454
>>4778459
Instead of crabbing on someone who has solid fundamentals and already made it, why don't you contribute to this thread by posting your own progress?

>>4769333
Dude you had your own style then drowned yourself in a sea of competing anime scratchers. The original stylr was much better. Jesus you guys like fucking yourselves. This is a perfect example of an artist with no self worth. He thinks he needs to be like everyone else and sacrifices his strengths in order to fit in. Man you fucks dont seem to learn. Its not too late tho. Your old style was much better more original

>>4776363
This is honestly really sad.

>>4778461
What did you do to get rid of it? Genuinely curious to expand my repertoire

>>4778395
Read this sentence 5 times...

>>4778451
Smart phones ruined everything after 2005

>>4769333

>>4770607
>>4778635
Consume some current stuff then, find some current artists you like and mix and match their styles, try some popular gacha games or anime

>>4778133
My 1st year was self-studying, 2nd year was in an art school. After that, freelance and full-time job for game companies.

>>4778685
1 year of art school?
what?
how?

>>4778688
Yes some asian art school like FZD, with 1 year course. You'd have to work like a horse to be able to keep up with the schedule tho. 16 hours a day as what Feng Zhu said is too much, but ~10 hours a day, or more, is a must if you want to survive.

>>4778685
Elaborate on working for game companies? I want to go the exact route as you did and been planning it for a while now, why did you stop working for game companies and what companies did you work for?

Top are referenced.
bottom are from imagination.
One year apart, left are oldest.
Judging by this thread i'm moving at a sloths pace, if someone stepped on that sloth and it fucking died.

>>4778759
How did you discover this fetish?

>>4778323
Glad I could help, anon.

>>4775718
One notch away from /adv/ territory. Don't give up senpai.

>>4778779
I’m not that guy you’re asking, but when my gf was plumping up it looked “good” even though I knew it wasn’t healthy for her. The picture is probably just an extreme version of what guys see as fertile.

how does it feel getting owned by a monkey?

>>4775722
Too thick now, don't fall for the coomer memes

>>4769896
People payed for that? Daim thats pretty funny.

>>4778747
Well, at that time, my skill is barely average, so obviously I only could land some low tier freelance works, or apply to small mobile game companies. Match 3 and Farm simulate games was trending, and my job is rendering fruits, candies, isometric houses, trucks, trees... I could also get some freelance tcg illustration jobs of indie studios. I thought I'd get more experience and fulfill my goal like that, but I was wrong.

My goal is to earn a lot of money, and illustrate artworks for top tier anime style games. Whoever thought Square Enix won't hire a random guy who can render candies, they'll surely hire skillfull and popular anime artists tho, I really was stupid and made the wrong choice. So, I'm trying to make up for it and experimenting anime style currently, building fanbase too. Before, more than 2 years ago all I did are semi-realistic stuffs.

>>4778759
good progress Miramiraclerun, always love how soft your girls look

My main concerns right now are making my edges better/cleaner and learning about colour, but I don't feel like I'm learning much. I read Gurney's Colour and Light and do paintings and studies, but is there some smarter way to study colour that I'm missing?

>>4779012
Color and Light is more about light and how it affects color, not so much color theory itself or how to pick colors that look good together. You're probably familiar with complementary colors already, so look into stuff like split complements, triads, etc. based on a 12 color color wheel.

>>4778635
Studied more realistic comics, and then just sort of lost it.

i just started using reference and it made life so much easier

>>4779205
Why are you coloring and shading when construction is all wrong? this is turd polishing

>>4779205
Dont listen to him. You’re doing all right. I just dont know why you guys wanna do anime tho

>>4779282
Stfu /beg/tard

>>4778635
>Read this sentence 5 times...
If that implies confusion what I mean is you've been doing what you've took interest in and improved from it so sticking with that will of course continue that development. Expanding horizons is of course important but only if it's things you take interest in still. No giving a fuck about needing to keep up with the times.

>>4779289
Lets post our art and see whos a fucking beg

>>4779301
You first

>>4773592
Jesus Christ. This is why you don't skip fundamentals.

>>4777240
And this is what happens when you study fundamentals. Great job, anon. And especially awesome considering you started at an age many would consider "late."

I'm considering starting again. I start but I always drop off because I'm too critical of myself.

>>4778372
Neat. I'm 22 atm and have taken this as a passion for about a decade now but can't say i've done it nearly as often as other people would take it, far from so i haven't experienced as much growth. This pushes the urge in me to do it more if it means improving faster. I've always been too worried about error in the past, having cases with inconsistent results and just being very slow too but I think that's just from my lack of commitment. I want to see where things takes me now if I do it more and more learning from each error i make.

>>4778798
Heh, I actually picked up drawing because /adv/ said I should try to find a hobby. I don't think I'll give up completely but I think I should take a break for a while. Thanks, anon.

>>4779325

>>4769333

All this practice, and all that awaits is more practice.

>>4779274
I always see NGMI crabs saying dumb shit like this. You should always try to finish up your drawings, ones that aren't just studies, to the best of your ability. Otherwise you're condemning yourself to sketch purgatory and then it becomes another huge laborious process trying to learn from square 0 how to color and shade.

>>4770391
>>4770448
>>4770735

Thanks for the kind comments, sorry for not responding sooner friend anons. Will try to continue improving for you all.

>>4779357
He meant /adv/anced I think, not /adv/ice

>>4770456
Very good, your rendering is vastly better and anatomy improved too

Why do people put the newest on the left? Are they islamic?

>>4776493

>>4778774
bolder shading and clear up messy lines

>>4779327
What's wrong with that progress? Looks pretty good to me.

>>4780273
Only took 13 years to give fundies a try and see progress, just a bit over a decade

>>4778927
not the op but hey, some people payed to fuck your dad's ass bro so yeah

>>4779366
>no response
lmao you btfo'd him.

>>4780278
yeah but this is clearly a case of someone not actively pursuing the hobby and quitting for several years at a time. it doesn't look to me like he's been drawing for all 13 years. it's less about not practicing fundies and more about not practicing at all.

>>4770107
newest one has a strong sense of form and good shading

>>4769810
Keep going anon. I wonder what you will be like in a month from now

>>4780683
>hide everything in shadows so you you can leave imaginations to do the rest of the work
Brilliant!!

>>4780686
Tenebrism

year and a half of regression be like

>>4780683
I pref subject matter of 2016

>>4780695
it's not really regression it's trying to take on more challenging tasks when you haven't mastered the basics.

>>4780719
yeah I really need to go back to the basics
it's just so boring and confusing, and I never understand how to actually implement it

>>4780725
>3 years
>Better hair
>Better rendering
>No other improvement
Did you stopped studying and had only been drawing repeatedly and hone your current skills?

>>4780725
degradation

>>4780725
Why did you delete it?

>>4779900
They are weebs

>>4780683
Don't paint with the burn tool

>>4779666
Top right looks fantastic.
I like how not only your skill improved but also your creativity.

>you will never have a random anon say "proud of you anon!"

>>4781883
Thank you anon! I will keep practicing!

>>4776469
sometime people lie to them selves so much they start believing the lie

>>4775885
not talent its iq its not about just drawing it about identifying and breaking down your problem into smaller chunks so it digestible

>>4782427
Pyw so I can tell you I’m proud of you, champ.

>>4778342
>LWA came out this long ago
fuck