/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

hate boomers

Have to wagecuck once more because COVID has ducked over family finances. It was nice to see that I was better looking and smarter than everyone else who was getting hired tho, good to know I’m still on top.

>>4758274
Fuck Gavin Newsom we would have achieved lolichad status by now but the faggot shut down all the Gyms.

>>4758274
Fuck this place, everywhere I go I see twitter threads and it’s fucking annoying. Especially post like >>4755811, seeing how simple it is to get a following now a days is. People don’t actually follow you for your art anymore, and fucking demotivating see this shit all the time. I might as well quit drawing cause of this bs.

>>4758274
I hate stupid beginners

>>4758274
>decide to get into art
>look up cheapest wacom tablet
>go downstairs to ask mom to buy me a tablet
>before I even speak, I overhear her talking to dad about massive financial debts we are currently in due to corona
>she sounds extremely upset
>go back upstairs
It's ok mom I can draw with a pencil :(

>>4758296
My governor (Florida) is a worse piece of shit than yours. At least he made you all stay at home for so long. Epicenter for the virus? But but tourism $$$!! You know what fuck every state where palm trees grow.

>>4758304
get a job, stupid teen

>>4758375
That would be illegal

>>4758299
4chan is for shitposting

>>4758334
everybody is going to get the virus anyways. this is just about not overloading the hospitals and maybe something else... politically...

>>4758299
>boo hoo whats the point of drawing if people dont follow you for your drawings
Look at this retard and laugh

>>4758274
Cost of living is so fucking high here, it makes living off art alone hard as fuck

>>4758380
inb4 banned for underage

>>4758274
I realized I will never get an art job or much, and it's liberating. I'm gonna stop reblogging things, making fanart, being pressured into having a consistent schedule, and instead will focus on my own characters and stories. At least I gave it a shot, but I still like doing art.

>>4758304
>go downstairs to ask mom to buy me a tablet
I would be ashamed to even think about doing this, you little bitch.

I haven't drawn for 2 months now, tried to draw a figure from reference today and it came out absolute dogshit.
I literally forgot everything I've learned in only 2 months of inactivity.

>>4758274
enjoy your health
idiot

Why are the people in OC so retarded? Its like they get off to be contrarian.

Speaking of OC, I wonder if Fullerton’s animation department is any good.

>>4758274
I like to many art syles that it feels I don't like any of them. I don't know which one to copy.

>>4758274
I've been in a very bad place mentally for a very long time. Nobody seems to know because I just don't even talk to anyone and the one person I told about it seems to only care about own ego. So I snap on a smile and joke around. Nobody seems to care about me but I'm expected to care about everyone else. I'm literally doing nothing all day other than whatever I have to at work and either watch TV or just waste time on the internet. For some time I woke up thinking "today will be different" but not anymore. I can't fall asleep, then I can barely wake up, my sleep routine is a mess, I survive my days on pills (prescription ones for medical conditions) and I have about zero emotions

Apologies for the blog post. I can't do complaining irl

>>4758304
You're not supposed to be here if you're under 18, and you're not supposed to need your mom's money if you're over 18
pick one

>>4758732
> and you're not supposed to need your mom's money if you're over 18
Oh, anon...

>>4758732
It must suck being from a cold individualistic culture instead of a family-oriented one, anon.

>>4758914
its great if youre not a soft bugman

>>4758914
I apologize my father died when I was 10 and my mother is 73 so I don't bother her with my millennial existential crisis
My shit has nothing to do with our culture, I'm not from a western shithole, east yuro still has some soul and shieeeet

>on a dating site
>girl proclaims "I love anime and games ^___^"
>ask "whats your mal account" and "your fav game?"
>"whats that??? and call of duty

sigh

>>4759034
You want an actual girl that like videogames and anime you have to make peace with them being a fatty, sadly.

>have a friend who participates in those #artshare twitter posts these artists like to do so often
>get asked a few times if they could shill my art
Thing is, I really don't want to participate in stuff like that, because of how flooded those posts/hashtags get meaning that chances are nobody going to notice or care about yours. Also I feel like it's a circlejerk of tiny followers pitying each other thing but I at the same time, I feel like that's just me feeling jaded about clout chasing as a whole, even though I wish I at least had more than 50 followers (but that's my fault because I post once in a blue moon and majority of the time it's OC). What do ya'll think? would their be any harm in participating in those or does it not hurt once in a while (unlike certain people that jump on EVERY single one)?

>>4759057
I hate how this is the case. I ask them casual questions about anime and it's like I'm speaking Cantonese.

>>4758302
Did you hate yourself when you were a stupid beginner?

>>4759084
Go for it anon. They tagged you because they want you to share your art and because they're your friend.
The hashtag gets flooded, but you'll still get some attention. Plus those who have their timeline set to "Top Post" will see your post first (and followers of your friends will see your post, which means possibility of more followers)
Man I'm jealous though, all my art friends are leaving Twitter

>don't draw for one day
>forcing myself to draw the next day becomes even harder
I hate this so much

>>4758385
4chan ≠ /b/

>>4759104
Oh yeah I haven't thought about the top post from that aspect. Sure thing, I guess it wouldn't hurt to try it, and I would feel rude of me to decline them; it's still flattering enough they want to shill my stuff.
>Man I'm jealous though, all my art friends are leaving Twitter
It's kind of ironic because we both hate twitter for how it fucks with your uploads and it's userbase in general. We're hoping pillowfort eventually takes off so we can make it our primary site (We both don't like Instagram and I don't want to go back to NG and my friend isn't to fond of the you need to log in to see NSFW aspect of pixiv and the fact you can't really do NSFW on dA).

>>4758299
>I might as well quit drawing
if its not a hobby you enjoy for the sake of it and success is an extra you can without, yes you may as well.
imo find a place that talks about other hobbies you like, draw related to that hobby and post, get followers.

>>4758506
Art is an unforgiving lover. I took a year break and I swear I regressed five years, but it's been two years since then and I'm doing better than ever. It's going to suck at first but get yourself in the habit of drawing every day.

>>4759120
pick a project. set up stuff to work on project.
helps to know what you want to draw.

>>4759096
No. Because stupid beginners don't realize they're stupid. That's why they are stupid. I do hate my past self though.

>>4758274
Not being able to balance drawing for 6+ hours and having a life is making me wanna kill myself, On top of that I haven't improved shit lately

>all these twitter posts with people celebrating reaching some several thousand follower milestone
>be me with literally three fucking followers

It sure sucks being an uninspired loser who can't apply himself, living every day with a shattered dream weighing them down.

>>4758393
This is a vent thread for a reason, retard

>>4758304
grind furry porn to buy a tablet

>>4759378
You have more followers than me. Hell, I don't even have an account.

>>4759378
Have you tried drawing things that people might be interested in bro?

>>4758304
You might be too young to post here, but in reality if you are deciding to get into art just get a pencil and copy paper and draw. You don't need a Wacom tablet for that.

>bought cigarettes again

>>4758296
>not working out at home

This is why all you idiots are sick now. If you would have worn a mask and physically distanced you wouldn't be in this fucking mess.

>>4758723
Is there a professional you can talk to?

>>4759084
Any publicity is good publicity, but I understand how you feel.

>>4759378
Well, for starters:

- what do you usually draw?
- did you post links to your SocMedia accounts in the shill thread?

Just wanna get this off my chest. One thing I deeply regret is telling anyone that I wanted to study art. There is like this invisible pressure on me to make something good for friends to enjoy even though i know they don't really care that much as long as I'm trying and enjoying it. I have a couple that can draw well enough to do what they want but I unconsciously compare myself to them and it bums me out even if I avoid anything relating to their art. I've also tried joining art s me art communities just to look for some advice but was too overwhelmed and had so many conflicting opinions on what I should focus on that anything relating to art shut down in me for a good 10 months, "Don't draw X yet" "why are you drawing anime?" "perfect practice" etc. That shit is fucking boring and kills your will to pick up a penicl, I know I'm just a beginner but I'm not trying to be something great like Van Gogh or anything like the hentai artists I follow but just want to make some cute stuff or some dumb comic here and there you know? At least when I was just drawing anime characters I like and applied stuff I found on youtube I can say I was happier then. I wish I never told anyone a thing just to make things complicated for myself, in total it's been a year and 6 months since this whole thing started and I'm just starting to get into the groove of just drawing shit I like without thinking about anything else. Thanks for at least reading, have a nice day.

>>4759907
What helps me is drawing for myself only. I never post stuff online and only sometimes draw memeshit for friends

>>4758274
it feels like i don't care about anything outside of drawing anymore but i also don't really have any reason to draw i just keep doing it because it's the only thing i know how to do.

>>4758304
become a tradchad.
but in all seriousness, everything you learn with a pencil will transfer over to digital art so just keep grinding and don't worry too much anon

>>4759828
not unless I pay my ass off which I can't do right now. Guess it'll just go away, eventually

>>4758723
figure out your mental issues yourself, having friends to talk to and complain to is nice but in the end you have to deal with it and get over it or live with it yourself as best as you can

>>4758274
Trying to talk myself into renting a room with strangers for a few months so I can apply for another part-time job and rent my own space.

Can't fucking stand my "family".

>>4758304
Do you have a discord? I have an extra tablet that I’m not using

>>4759873
Not that anon, but I'm too scared to post my socials in the social shill thread. It's dumb because some of the most supportive and interesting people I talk to online also use this site (but I didn't find out about that until after I met them)

>>4759999
i think I'm more upset over the thought of everyone throwing their shit on me and not stopping for a second to ask if I'm even ok. But then I guess that's what you get for always faking that everything's all good

>>4760058
I'm not a girl

>>4759963
Not how it works

I’m 26 and I’ll never learn to drive.

>>4760010
I understand that, Im going through something similar. My mom is literally Butter's mom but a hoarder that does literally nothing all day, and I wish I were joking when I say this, but my stepdad is a fucking pagan cult leader with anger issues. Im happy though because I just turned 18, they can no longer abuse me financially and even if I end up sleeping under a bridge, its better than living with those people. At least I will have some semblance of freedom and dignity, and ill be able to do my art and go to an actual university and practice my religion without the people who are supposed to love me crushing that.

Pic related is me when I finally leave

>>4760225
Oh yikes that was real long im sorry dudes

>>4760229
It’s okay, that’s why this thread exists.

I feel bad for the 7 1/2 heads tall guy. Imagine living an existence like his, knowing there are men out there like pic related. He never stood a chance

>>4759907
if you want to get better, you need to learn. thats how skills work.
if not, stop comparing yourself and sit in your bubble.

>>4759947
that's how it started but I guess I got too absorbed at wanting to show off I guess.
>>4760252
well yeah, I am mainly venting about people that are just "you should practice before you try to draw things you like" when you ask for critique.
>stop comparing yourself
I wasn't trying to

Drawing loli isn't legal where I live. I wanna move to another country where I can do that without the fear of being sent to jail but I am broke. I try to grow on social media to get some money with more normal art but... I must suck at this. It's been for more than two years now that I don't have a job and I am completely lost in my life. I really don't know what to do. My bank account doesn't give a shit about that and keeps reminding me that sooner or later sad things await me.

>>4760394
*500 years old vampire

>>4760169
That’s not a requirement for me to help you

>>4760399
My bad. Thanks for correcting me, anon.

>>4760394
Get a vpn and don't disclose your location or your name on the internet.

>>4760394
Even if you were to move countries, you’ll still get shit for it. You have limited options to gain money or grow your audience, unless you’re from nipland.

>>4760394

>>4758375
its not as easy faggot.

>>4758506
Feel ya, didnt draw shit for most of summer break, uni classes start in august and I got motivated to draw again, everything feels like dogshit. Worst of it I have my concept art class and the teacher is an unforgiving bastard.

>>4760394
Post blog, I want lolis

>>4760394
>Drawing loli isn't legal where I live. I wanna move to another country
maybe psychoanalyze yourself and maybe realize how ugly your interests are due to your ugly soul and upbringing. You can make it out the loli hole anon!

>>4760463
b-but my cute toddlers

>>4760413
I don't have a complete trust into VPNs but if it can help, why not. The thing I fear with that is when wanna make some money. I have no idea whether or not Paypal is going to ask me at some point explanations about where those dollars come from.

>>4760419
If I get shit on by people on the internet I don't mind it. I don't fear the Twitter mob (if you meant so). Going to Japan would take me years but if I was able to do it, I would have done it.

>>4760429
Please don't kill.

>>4760449
Nice try FBI.

>>4760463
...

>>4758304
>mommy I decided I want to become an artist now please buy me an expensive tablet that I will get bored of and abandon in 2 weeks!!
I would beat the shit out of you if you were my kid.

>>4759378
I promise you your twitter is shit and not worth following.

>>4760205
Getting a license in US is a fucking joke.
Anywhere else is easy too.

I had to fail 6 driving exams before I passed. If I can go through that bullshit so can you.

>>4760429
sauce?

I JUST started practicing drawing for real after years of depression killing my motivation and was so very excited but now I have texting thumb and I already have to take a break.

>>4760508
I hope so. I almost had a car crash because I drove past the yellow light and a car came towards me. I have an issue where if thee radio is on or if someone is talking to me I drift off into wonderland and forget I’m driving. That and then I remember one thing and then forget the next day.

Maybe there is only so much my parent can show me that I’m no getting but I hope I pass my test tomorrow. I failed my first test in under 2 minutes.

I can't consider myself an artist.

>>4760872
why

>>4760872
based draughtsman CHAD

>>4760889
I'm unable to think like one.

>>4760498
>become an artist
>expensive tablet
Based reading comprehension anon

>>4760408
Why would you help a stranger without a pussy incentive
What are you Jesus or something
you're flesh and blood anon
i dont believe you

I just want to rest my head in someone's lap and cry the hardest I can possibly cry. Just finally letting it all out. As they pet my head and rub my back and say little things like, "it'll be okay." And there won't be any judgment in their tone, I'll feel heard and accepted. And after my voice is hoursed from crying, we'll have tea and sit together, I'll probably draw in my sketchbook or work on my resume.
But right now I can't cry, I feel too dead.

I feel like quitting 2D to do 3D modeling instead.

>>4761113
Then do it

>>4761132
But I...

>>4761111
Hang in there anon. I feel for you. Things will get better, your patience will be rewarded. Be safe.

>>4761111
Right in the fucking feels here too. I'm an emotionally stunted retard with mommy issues, and I just wish a kind woman would let me lay my head in her lap as she strokes my hair and hums a song to me. Not even in a sexual way or anything, I just want someone to be there for me. Instead I'm a lonely autist with no one there for me but myself, it's hard to even pick up a pen/pencil sometimes but the perseverance is worth it. Sometimes I just sit at my computer and slack off, much like I'm doing now, and put off drawing. But when I finally do start drawing I get really absorbed, turn on some music, and just draw for hours. The only downside is that when it's time to stop I feel like a drug addict being denied their fix. I've pulled several all nighters recently and it's been fucking terrible. Just hang in there and draw, anon. Keep drawing, don't stop improving. Art is worth it.

Guys, GUYS. i had this dream and i was drawing right?!
>Makin art for this company in this small town, improving and shit
>This new young artist comes along and BTFO the fuck out of me
>Irritated about it but i still wanted to improve and not give up
>Her forms were fucking flawless
>Genuine anime from this asian chick she must've been a foreigner or some shit but whatevs
>we eventually become rivials but also good friends
>We're in the car one day, eating out in the parking lot
>She's drawing in her smol sketchbook and i'm eating every so often glancing at whatever she draws
>Some latino/mexican guy comes to the driver's side of the window where i'm at
>he's known for cheating on his clueless wife
>he glares at my friend intensely
>guy wants to fucking molelest my friend
>he has two guns, one hanging on the right side of his leg and one in his left hand
>he hides both of them but i know he has them
>roll down window, "Hey bro do you need something?"
>he responds to my question but i don't give a fuck what he says, i'm focused immensly on the guns
>he thinks i'm a guy because of the shitty hairstyle i have
>tries to convince him i'm a chick or he's gonna shoot me but he doesn't budge and shoots me anyway
>he opens the car door and i take the gun on his right side
>he shoots me 2 more times i'm in pain but i don't die
>i shoot him in the shoulder and tell my friend to run away
>he tries to chase her but i shoot him several times from behind.
>i don't know if he survived but i'm bleeding out and almost dead.
>black cop comes
>yeshelpfinally.jpg
>he shoots me too and runs away
>what the fuck?
>anyway i'm still alive and crawl all the way to my house
>family is shocked
>"omg anon wat happened lol"
>rush to hospital
>i live and get better
>my friend comes at the end of the dream to tell me i saved her life.
>mfw

>trying to replicate charcoal in digital
>csp has a good-looking charcoal brush but the blending sucks and the program fucking lags if you're ever using a brush above 150 pixels in size
>sai 2.0 is absolutely lagless at any brush size due to ancient gook magic and feels better to draw in in general but lacks a lot of the features that makes csp convenient to use such as downloading brushes

AHHHHHH I WAS PLANNING ON FUCKING DRAWING FOR HOURS TODAY BUT THERE'S A ROACH HIDING ON MY DESK

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIND THE LITTLE FUCKER

>>4761592
leave something out for him to eat the wack the fuck

>>4761628
>leave something out for him to eat the wack the fuck

I'll try leaving some bait. I don't even know how to little fucker is still alive. I hit him multiple times full force with a broom and he just tanked it. It's not even a fully grown roach, just a small one

how the fuck do you get art into galleries

>watch art stream, partially finished work is beautiful
>check blog but everything looks bad
>wonder.jpg
>check again later and polishing has killed every bit of appeal
why this always happens

>>4758304
CRAIGLIST

>>4761671

Its cause you chucklefucks tell people every style is unappealing so they go and make soulless corporate shit instead

>>4761018
Maybe they're gay

>>4758274
I give up.

>>4761691
What made you give up?

>>4760479
>not Paypal is going to ask me at some point explanations about where those dollars come from.
Thats not how paypal works. Theyre not the government or some police force. The way transactions happen on paypal is you create an invoice with vague or basic details like digital painting and thats it. And before hand you also set the invoice as an electronic good. Then ur commissioner pays for it by email. They dont need a paypal account to pay for an invoice.

What the fuck is wrong with you guys?
What the fuck is wrong with this board?
Why must you all be so hostile towards each other??
Why do you think you are good enough to critics or teach others?
Why the fuck is this board so shit?

>>4761723

Its on 4chan.

>>4761723
>What the fuck is wrong with you guys?
Some people here are mentally ill.
>What the fuck is wrong with this board?
It's full of crabs that don't draw.
>Why must you all be so hostile towards each other??
It's full of crabs that don't draw.
>Why do you think you are good enough to critics or teach others?
You don't have to be "good" to critique or teach. Your skill level doesn't matter, what matters is your knowledge on the subject. You can be knowledgeable while not actually possessing the mechanical skill to apply your knowledge at this given time. For me, critiquing people is a way to hone my observational skills, and if the artist I'm critiquing is better than me, a way to try and reverse engineer their drawing and see what their process is. This attitude of "baww u cant critique me ur not better than me pywpywpyw!!" is NGMI as fuck and only spouted by thinskinned smoothbrains that can't handle a little bit of criticism.
>Why the fuck is this board so shit?
It's full of crabs that don't draw.

>>4761697
Good to know, thanks!

>>4761018
I just felt for you reading your story. My family is also going through some bad financial times due to covid as well, and I thought it was sweet that you wanted to spare your mom the burden of your own needs. Besides, the extra tablet is an old Wacom bamboo so it’s not ultra fancy or anything.

>>4761203
I can be your mommy friend if you need one, anon

>>4761921
https://voca.ro/bTzcDtttfjw

>have strong maternal instincts toward my cat
>keep dreaming that he gets out somehow and that I have to find him and protect him
>usually wake up to him cuddling me and purring
>this morning I woke up, went downstairs to start drawing for the day, and he was out on the screened in porch meowing and crying to be let in because my mom forgot to check for him before she came back in
>repeatedly told her about how I didn’t want him out there in the first place, thought she learned her lesson when one day he got out onto the porch and got into her resin epoxy, had epoxy dried to his fur that we couldn’t get out for days

How am I going to confront my mom about this, I’m really really mad she left him out there all night. He was really scared and didn’t have access to his food, water, or litter box, and also it’s summer in fucking Florida so it may have been much too hot for him ;__;

>>4761938
Kek you have a nice voice, anon

>>4761961
https://voca.ro/ckU9YUEca9s

>>4760592
Fate/Zero

>>4758274
why does no one talk about taxes? i know it depends on the country but still, shit is so complicated.

I have to pay basically half my income just to survive
I'm just going to go live the "digital nomad" life just to avoid this shit.

I don't understand why isn't there more freelance artists doing this

>>4760664
Guys, I passed my test! Just barely! I still need practice on the road though. But thank god I don’t have to stress about tests.

I did 2 free requests from some people on twitter
I really wanna do my first commision though, even for literally 5 dollars
but I only got 100 followers :(

>>4762299
>free requests
>even for literally 5 dollars
I hope you respect yourself and your art more than to ever draw for $5
You sound young so I’ll say one of the more important things besides getting good enough to attract commissioners is to value your time and the effort/energy you put into your work. Continue drawing what you like and improving and don’t get stuck in the trap of taking shitty underpaid comms just for the sake of being able to say you were paid to draw.

>>4762299
I'm interested in seeing your work, but no pressure. Follower count on twitter is shit because social media is for selling ads, not bringing people together in a meaningful way
Please don't undersell yourself because you are not only fucking over yourself, but also other artists
>lol why should I pay you $100 (or whatever) for a full body character and background in full color when this insecure anon will do it for free

That's it. I'm putting my tablet in a dusty box and forget I ever drew.

how do i get followers and get commissions, i've been stuck on around 300 for forever

>>4762635
I have a hard time believing you're actually drawing enough to stay at 300.

>>4762635
>>4762640
You guys losing followers for not posting? I gain more than lose and those weekly 20 that unfollow are usually suspended accounts

>>4762640
well whats the most infrequent i can be posting im spending most days doing studies and dont want to be doing finished stuff to post all the time

>>4762299
Don't do shit for $5, unless it's free for a friend (real friend, someone you know irl, not from twitter)

Twitter fags just love to get shit for free, but is your time free? Think about it like this: if you were on your dying bed and you were offered back all the minutes you spent on doing things for free, how much time would you have left? You don't want this number to be too high by the time you are on that bed. Your time is yours, if they want something from you, they better pay up

>>4761917
good deeds always earn their punishments online

>>4762419
>>4762795

here is my the latest work at peak of my current abilites

>>4759093
Ask out the fat women at cons instead of using apps designed to scam manchildren with more money than common sense.

>>4762635
draw fanart of a more popular artists oc

>>4762800
If you do something like that for $5 I will shank you

>>4762070
Create an LLC or other tax haven to funnel your money through in Ireland, The Cayman Islands, or Switzerland.

>>4762800
Underselling yourself fucks over you and every other artist as well.

$5? Bro that’s not even minimum wage.

>>4762800
You're doing the right thing, you're beating the competition and by default you will attract more customers that will commission you. Remember, these faggots are stepping all over each other and want you to be over priced so they can undercut you. You can dish out a bust shot of a cartoon tiddy for a fiver - that's a cup of coffee my friend.

>>4762800
you are a few minor tweaks away from being solidly employable imo. you don't need to undercut.
>learn how to draw hands
>study amawu skin pallettes, maybe even use color sheets as a guide/cheat sheet https://setteidreams.net/color-designs/
>think a little more about your shadow design, manga materials has some resources for that

>>4762070
>I'm just going to go live the "digital nomad" life just to avoid this shit.
how does that get you out of taxes?

>>4762800
How long have you been drawing for?

>browsing reddit
>accidentally see an implied nude from Brian
>begone cumfarti
>still burned in to my brain
Help

>>4761921
Yeah right, where do you live? I'll be right over for you to chop me into pieces and bury me in your backyard.

>>4758274
I have a new art account so i wanna get art pals/follow nice art from other small accounts but most of them have either shit art or already thousands of followers (still small in ig standards) which means they'll never notice me.

>>4763054
>Everyone keeps telling me how criminal it is I have less than 50 followers
>Some times even big jap artists follow me back
>Don't know why. I hate my art and I don't like shilling it since its bad
I dont understand what you want from so called art friends exactly. Sounds to me you are more looking for a mentor than a friend.

>>4763011
>browsing reddit
I'm afraid there is no help for you, brother.

I don't know what's up with my Twitter, but I'm not getting any engagement. I have almost 2k followers but like zero reactions to my posts and art.
I'm thinking of either deleting the entire account in case it's banned or something, or make it private and forcibly remove all followers (block/unblock)

>>4761592

Unironically turn the lights down to low for a bit. Just one lamp on in your room oughta do it. The lil shit will try to sneak out under the cover of darkness and then you can nab him.

>>4761667

Call the gallery (if theyre open to the public) for a consultation and bring your portfolio if they are interested in your work. Realize that most galleries make their money by SELLING whats on display and be ready for them to gyp you on the rates.

>>4761938

Reported for underage!

>>4763580
It'd be easier to make a new account. Consider it a fresh start.

>>4763632
Thanks, I think that's what I'll do.

lost all motivation to draw over lockdown, haven't drawn consistently or properly studied in months but i decided to pick up an old piece i was working on and im having a lot of fun. probably lost some gains but will try to keep going an improving from now on.

>>4762836
That's only possible if you have millions

>>4762967
You need to be in a country for 6 months to be taxable so if you keep moving indefinitely you don't have a tax residence.
I wouldn't stay in a country for more than 1-3 months depending on the visa treaties

>>4759378
Don't care about your twitter, but this a a nice drawing

>>4764266
it doesn't work like that you cretin

>>4764330
enlighten me

I have no motivation to draw because I know I'm too dumb and lazy to get anywhere with my art

day 2 of water fasting and i cant draw cause my muscles are weak and shaky will ketosis stop this?)=

The hurricane is making the weather feel very calming. The rain and wind makes my mood feel at peace. I love pre-hurricane weather.

>>4765058
As opposed to post hurricane weather, when the yard is fucked up, the streets are flooded, garbage is in piles because waste management can’t reach your house, you’ve lost power for 3d, it’s hot as fuck, and your clothes are painted on your body.

>>4765061

That just comes with the package I guess. I hope we actually have a hurricane before the season ends.

Planning to quit my shitty job soon to work harder on my projects but doubt is setting in the closer the date comes to my planned time to give notice. The job doesn't pay well enough to live in Toronto no matter how many hours I take and with the hours I have now I'm already struggling to get anything done sans a doodle a day. However money is important if I ever plan to move out in any feasible amount of time. I'm worried that if my projects go nowhere I'll just look like and feel like a failure as I go back to flipping burgers once again while now also having to take up a second job. Then I'd be forced into forgetting about any aspirations I once had. I'm already lucky enough to have parents unable to kick me out due to immense kindness and I don't want to feel like I'm not able to repay that.

>>4765058
Fuck no, all these storms keep making my power flicker and it cuts off right in the middle of drawing so I lose progress from my last save

>>4758304
go mow someones lawn or some shit, even for a poorfag a drawing tablet is accessible if you really want it, stop being a pussybitch and you will have a tablet in no time.

im pretty decent at drawing and i already planned out several comic series, i literally have hundreds of pages worth of material, thousands of drawings etc all safely stored, but something is holding me back from actually drawing the pages, i just cant, its like artists block but worse. its frustrating af and i dont know what to do. i know it has potential, i showed the source material to a lot of people already and i enjoy a lot of praise for my drawings but i cant realise it, its stuck in a development phase i cant get it out of.

>>4758274
I've been stuck at that stage of drawing for a while where I can draw stiff figures with boring compositions, but with passable rendering. I've accumulated thousands of followers on twitter just because I know how to render anime boobs, including some japanese artists I look up to. But I'm deeply frustrated with my lack of progress, and any time I try to break through and study to actually make my art good, everything I learn goes in one ear and out the other. I keep trying to grind perspective, gesture, and drawing from imagination and my brain just can't wrap itself around them.
My lack of progress for multiple years now has resulted in me being extremely unmotivated to draw at all and I still haven't managed to get a job after 2 years since graduating with a shitty useless degree. At this point I'm wondering if I ever truly enjoyed drawing at all and I'm going to lose it.

>>4765218
Pyw comics anon
reeeeeeeeee

>>4765218
I know this feel well, something like performance anxiety? You just gotta sit down and really start making it. I've released several comics and I still get it that feel

>>4765674
>I keep trying to grind perspective, gesture, and drawing from imagination and my brain just can't wrap itself around them.
Are you sure you're studying efficiently? What do your studies usually consist of?

>>4765728
I'm almost certain I'm not studying efficiently considering the lack of progress but I'm not sure what to do instead. I spent hours every day doing timed figure drawings with lineofaction, starting with gestures and progressing into full figure drawings. I've gone through perspective made easy twice now, and I draw plenty of 3D shapes as practice. But when it comes to actually implementing any of this in a regular drawing, it's like my brain completely shuts off any of that information and I just end up doing another stiff, boring, 3/4 anime girl. How do people drill this stuff into their heads and actually implement them in pieces?

>>4758274
This is just a minor vent. I'm testing Krita because ic said it is specialized for digital art, but I'm already so used to many of Photoshop's controls its just weird adjusting to it. I guess I should try to map all the hotkeys the same way, but I'm not sure if I can make everything feel the same. I feel like I kind of like Photoshop better, but I think its mainly a familiarity issue. Either way, I'm pretty bad at digital art so I hope maybe I can get better results with Krita..

>>4758755
i told you mom
LET ME LIVE MY LIFE

my drawing got 9 likes on instagram

Nine likes

I never got nine likes before

Always less than 5

But 9

That means...


I have

Pothenshal

>>4765676
sure thing

>>4765676

>>4765683
yes, kind of like performance anxiety but since im trying to do something really complex i need to make sure the first pages are perfect, its important for the future plot.

>>4762070
>I have to pay basically half my income just to survive
fuckin hell what socialist country do you live in

>>4765676

How do I start giving a shit again so that I can get my art back on track?

>>4765676
this is the closest thing i have for a cover art drawing but its obviously flawed and unfinished, plotwise this comic in particular could already fill at least 200 but didnt manage to create a single page

I'm at a point in my life where I really need to figure out what I'm going to do. I need to pursue art. I want a career in it because if I get a job doing something else I can't practice nearly as much and see my full potential but on the other hand I can't see how to make it in art I thought maybe making a comic that people like could generate enough money to live on but I'm not sure. scary times brain solidification is an idea that scares me like I need to spend this part of my life practicing constantly too see that full potential I talked about. Thanks to anyone who read my ramblings.

>>4765737
When doing an actual piece, do you only draw from imagination? Maybe try doing some from ref and stylizing it to your needs if you're having trouble shitting out an interesting pose from your head. It takes time to build up a visual library to where you can just blast out a cool composition with no ref whatsoever.

>>4765800
>>4765803
>>4765811
>>4765823
Naisu desu. I can kinda relate to your fear. Have you tried to practice on a smaller project? Or just doing mock up pages? Something that you don’t have to consider as “final work”? That kind of helped push the pressure off for me.

>>4765828

Perhaps studying storyboards and composition would help? You could even start drawing and finishing test pages so you just get comfortable enough making pages in general. In actual comics, though, you're going to be seeing your characters in a lot of boxed panels. Putting that in your head and practicing that might also help. Remember, comics are about /scenes/ and not just plain /drawings/ of your characters.

I'm not very experienced myself, so these are just some suggestions I thought might help someone.

Other I’m growing out of anime or all the shows this season are straight ass? I know SAO is trash but my God is this new season so cringe. And then you have shows that are so poorly animated and then the music in one show is god awful it’s like they took some kid and let him go wild in GarageBand.

And all these sequels after so many years I just don’t remember shit or end up confusing one show with another by how similar it is. And I’m sick of hearing Saoris voice in every God damn show it’s driving me up the wall. Can hey not find more women to voice characters? Christ.

>>4765836
I usually start with a ref, but then struggle to change it so that it's unique. I don't want to just copy poses but when it comes to taking the pose and changing the gesture or perspective to make it my own, it just ends up looking awkward and shitty. And eventually after trying to change it, I always end up doing some boring, stiff pose.

>>4765837
yes, i tried to make a meme comic once about my school and classmates and even made 6 pages but i quickly lost interest because i actually didnt like my classmates that much anymore and also didnt know where to go with the story, i tried a lot of times to make actual pages for my comics but when i revisit them i cringe because each time i see new problems with it. sometimes its the paneling the way i constructed the story or just lazy backgrounds it just never stops for me its like the pages get worse and worse each time i revisit them

>>4765839
paneling is definitly one of my weak points
pic related is one of the only mock up pages wich are at least somewhat presentable this scene was supposed to be a big shocking moment but the paneling is really basic

>>4765847
Hmm well that’s rough. I wanted to do comics all my life(manga specifically) and pretty much had your exact problem for years. I didn’t really have anything written down either since I could tell my writing sucked. Changed all of that last year when I just decided to quit my mmo addiction and focus on comics. One of the contributing factors of me a being able to get past my inner crab, was the fact that I don’t really post my work online. So no one knows all my failed attempts and I can revisit a page or pieces of dialogue without some sort of time constraint or any sort of upload schedule.

>>4765856
Paneling is a tough cookie. But, I think I might be slowly getting a hang of it. I now think of how the eye travels across the page, overall composition(more or less) and the spacing between panels. It somehow feels less complicated and I still don’t really know what I’m doing. lol

>>4765856
>paneling
i get a lot of anxiety about it desu. whats helped a lot is studying mangas & doing quick five minute rough studies of every page, just enough information to understand the layout & composition of the page. you sort of start to get a good sense of the underlying rhythm,
establishing shot -> 1 shot -> 2 shot -> closeup, cut in zoom to emphasize action, long angle to emphasize scale etc. it's also really easy to overthink your panels and feel like you *need* to do something really fancy but guys like otomo and masakazu really use pretty basic layouts most of the time.

>>4765821
Yurope

almost called an ambulance so I wouldn't kill or hurt myself today. at this point it feels like I won't survive 2020. I envy people that aren't degenerates like me, I feel like I can't join any social groups without dragging everyone down to my level. I am depressed so often, how would I be ablte to make friends when I have no real personality?

>>4766778
Stop watching porn and go outside.

>>4766778
Uhm, dude, don't kill yourself...

I want to fucking disappear. My shit doesnt reach people. I cant communicate. Not with my personality nor with my art.

>>4766909
I don't watch porn and have a job that regularly forces me to go outside

>>4766778
want a friend fren?

>be me
>make art for a Particular Niche
>want to find a community/Discord server for artists in said niche but don't want either extreme of man-hating hyperfeminist weirdos or far-right troglodytes that spend all their time getting entirely too mad about aforementioned weirdos
>no such community seems to exist, the closest thing is "no politics no drama" servers where both groups are still present and passive-aggressively trying to see how much bullshit they can get away with without the admins noticing

I gave up on a madoka record 2 months ago over a boss I couldn’t kill and all I had to do was live for 3 turns even if it meant needing to spend all those gems to level tamaki up....I feel so fucking stupid

>>4767097
I desperately do

My parents support me going to school if I can continue paying a portion of rent. Since it’s just a community college and a 1 year program I’m doing it shouldn’t be too much of an expense I hope. Each semester should cost $1400 in tuition and if I can get the max pell grant & loan everything should be okay....I’m just happy I can leave my shit job soon* (*if everything goes well and I can get the money in time that is)

I meant to complain about /beg/ being almost useless because of how you barely get any feedback on your drawings most of the time, but maybe I should just try to learn from whatever feedback is given to other anons and try to copy the way they draw. I know I have no right to complain because it's not like I'm paying someone to critique my shit or offer advice but I thought that was the point of this board. It feels like could be making progress faster with better direction but I admit I've been slacking off for a while now, so I'm also at fault there. I'm sure there's many things that play into this, maybe I just need to think less and draw more.

I just can't get any idea or even a spark of creativity for creating illustrations anymore.
on a empty canvas i would try to shit something out of my brain but it never happens. During normal days I sometimes get the rare spark but its always the same lame shit.

>>4767565
Just avoid beg. Even the feedback is shit

>>4767565
>think less and draw more
Yes.

There is still so much I need to improve at every single conceivable facet of art and my work takes already a shitload of time. Despite practicing every day using all my free my results are terrible and my improvement nowhere to be seen. On top of that I dont even know how to approach half of the stuff Im bad at. I fear that despite all my efforts Im some kind of innate NGMI due to factors out of my control

>draw male character
>30 likes, 3 retweets
>draw female character from same series
>3000 likes, 300 retweets
What the fuck? Neither were coom pieces either

>>4762291
Congrats bud. Force yourself to use the car, you think you can get by without it but it's one of the most liberating things an adult can have.

>>4767737
>same series
anime right? female characters are more popular than males a lot of the same.

>>4767737
>same series
anime right? female characters are more popular than males a lot of the time.

I've made no artistic progress in three years.

I really want to improve so I'm always seeking for Critics & Comments, but at the same time, as I always get more critics than praise I feel like no matter how much I advance, I never get people to like what I do.


Not that is that important, I just want to feel that my "gift" is appreciated by the rest, if it's not that then I feel like I have no redeemable qualities other than "knows how to draw decent"

I know this is emotional bullshit and that I shouldn't take this seriously, I must keep focused on the important task at hand.

Not really a vent but
>curious how my ex is doing since she also does art
>never really been that good, always got pissed whenever I would give her criticism
>literally told me once that I "have to blindly give her appraisal and not allowed to give her criticism or notice any issues with her art"
>her art has always been generic teen girl 2deep4u garbage that even her teacher despised even though shes not even a teen
>check her art now
>literally zero improvement after 5 years, still the same garbage
>cries on Tumblr how her art deserves attention and how its so deep and thought provoking and how every one is too stupid to understand it
>meanwhile I'm drawing porn on twitter and reach over 1k likes every time even with the most trivial shit
>find a post she made on tumblr ACTUALLY crying about how her ex (me) is drawing stupid dumb dumb tids and coochie while her TRUE and HONEST work is ignored
>pic related
Why are women retarded?

>>4767862
of course you get more critics than praise this is normal (especially if you ask for critique) i didnt get a lot of praise at the beginning either this is just how it works anon, also knowing how to draw decently is still a good achievement, most people utterly suck and cant even draw straight lines. can you pyw?

>>4767869
Sure, anon, no problem
I know that I get critics because I ask for them, maybe I'm just too exposed to criticism so it takes a toll on me. But I need it to get better at what I do.

>>4767868
Your ex is a childish narcissist who cant cope with reality, her inability to take criticism might be the reason she doesnt improve, she is just too far up her ass. but keep in mind there are a ton of men like this too,

>>4767868
How did you end up with a relationship with her in the first place...you can tell the type of person she is by her trashy art

>>4767878
I was blinded by the pussy game. Luckily I dodged a bullet. She ended up dropping out of her school, getting addicted to meth and crack, and started fucking random homeless men. Her brain has ultimately rotted beyond repair, and she posts nonstop ramblings of absolute nonsense on Facebook.

>>4767871
well your art is definitly very good imo
listening to a lot of criticism is very important, but i reccomend you to focus a little more on what you think of it, sometimes its a good idea to completely ignore all criticism, experiment more doodle around, this certainly helped me. when i first attempted drawing anime characters my jealous sister was really harsh on me because she saw my potential and didnt want me to outshine her. she demotivated me but i just kept going and improved quickly. sometimes criticism can actively hold you back, especially when you experiment with new styles and techniques

>>4767884
she seems like a textbook example of an "independent woman" doing "whatever she wants" can you post more of her art for me to cringe at?

>>4767917

>>4767921

>>4767950
That’s a yikes from me

>>4766925
no matter how good I get at art I have no soul and can't form relationships

>>4768068
F-form relationships?!? What kind????

>>4768077
j-just in general.. but a relationship relationship would be nice

>>4768068
i hate this

>>4766925
Do the opposite of what you think you should be doing. Reach yourself, not others. Be free and expose the vulnerable personality of yours.

>>4767868
Women tend to take criticism very personally. They either deny the critique or get so wounded by it that they give up on improving.

I don't know how to really describe this feeling I have, I don't feel like I belong anywhere. Not with my friends, not with my family, not here, not a single place in this world I feel is right for me nor do I fit in. I've felt this way since I was in middle school and things aren't getting any better, everyone has something interesting about them or has personality to them or have something they're very passionate about that they can talk about for hours on end but I myself am not any of that, I don't have anything like that (at least I think). I don't think I've mentally aged past 15 where I was at my lowest and just went into anime and games to escape my problems instead of dealing with them and now I've come to a point where I feel like I have to deal with them if I ever want to figure out what I want from life, I just want something more but I don't really know what.

>>4768275
Most people don’t have anything interesting about them IRL. If you feel what people are posting online is the real them you’re very much mistaken. What’s shown online are the bests parts of what that person thinks is the real them hence why most hide their identities from close relatives because it’s embarrassing most of the time. Internet identity is just living a double life. Nobody will know you’re an African pretend dike mentally cripple who is 4ft tall and wears girls clothing on the other end unless you make it public on the Internet.

The internet is a place where all retreat from problems, so you’re not alone. While it make look like that artist you like is always happy and gung-ho about life they might be going through depression or a divorce or they’re always suicidal and we’ll never know. So really, all what you’re seeing is a double lifestyle most people put on. A mask. A temporary bandage. If you feel like you don’t belong anywhere, well, you’re here on 4chan already so that isn’t true. You like anime just go to /a/ or whatever and talk with them.

>>4768297
Now if you mean offline I would think it’s the same thing. In my experience I know my mother would be overly nice in public and my dad would use his countries accent. My siblings would switch gears and act completely different but when home they act normally. But online they’re completely different, showing sites they’ve been, food they ate, how they dress, to talking about video games they never played in their life and don’t even own the console to talk about it.

If you can imagine that, then it’s likely it’s the same for a lot of people.

lots of relatable feels in this thread. im so fucked..

>>4765188
>go mow someones lawn
I don't live in South Park

Cool
Spent a while on a submission for a tshirt contest and then when I went to submit the deadline was 2 days ago.
Awesome.

depression from other problems is really affecting my drawing, i stopped drawing for a year because of it, and im back to a more regular schedule but it's still really soul crushing, feelings of whats the point of doing anything if the other problem is still there and i'll never be happy, and negative thoughts and emotions invading my mind when im drawing anything but stuff that takes a lot of thinking, its really hard to focus and i have to find mental distractions that take time away from drawing, and i cant make anything fun/positive and have pretty long breaks inbetween posting stuff online so thats not really growing. I want to get good and need to make a living somehow but yea its all a struggle every day. im trying to deal with the problems somehow but there's no guarantee they'll ever be solved.

>>4768786
make friends. be happy

>>4768789
friends are awesome and they do help but they can only fulfill some of what you need , deep down you''ll still be depressed and they cant be with you all the time, and they'll get tired if you're always sad and crying to them

>>4768806
do you want to be friends anon?

>>4768831
sure, no harm in trying, post your contact details

>>4768786
What problems are adding to your situation anon? Also, do you have any social I can follow?

>>4768857
idunno why that made you want my socials but im @sorarinnnnn on twitter, and i dont really wanna disclose what the problems are here

>>4768898
I just wanted to check your stuff out. I see you're also living in the dying brexit hole, and in london of all places, very pricey. Anon if you want to use that as your art account I want to suggest unfollowing most of those people until your following count is lower than your follow count. Twitter treats you badly when your following/follower ratio is like that.

>>4768926
twitter does stuff to you because of it? its not just a how other people view you thing?

>>4766778
read books instead. Surpass your boundaries, coward.

>>4767921
That top one looks like it could've had some potential. No critique kills improvement, what a dope.

I JUST WANT TO FUCKING DRAW

I stupidly took a digital art class at a local community colleg

one of the final projects is frustrating as fuck, its boring and tedious. I have to do a vector self portrait in adobe illustrator. I FUCKING HATE THIS SO FUCKING MUCH

and it doesn't help that it feels like illustrator is refusing to cooperate almost every step of the way a

I want to be doing painting and anatomy studies but instead I'm stuck fucking tracing an ugly portrait of myself for hours on end

I just want to draw

Man why spend time freehanding perfect spheres when I can just dab down a circle of 600 pixels and erase the center with a circle of 580 pixels and call it a day

>artwork gets several retweets and hundreds of likes
>still have zero followers
ok I guess

>>4769267
I totally know what you mean. If you're used to working with a tablet, dealing with Illustrator feels like tearing your teeth out with pliers.

>>4769305
No rules, just tools.

That thing that tells me none of this makes any sense and I should kill myself already is here again. I guess it's time to find a new hobby to keep it away for another couple of months. Good luck everyone.

>>4759084
based throwback tester image

>>4766778
How old are you and do you live by yourself?
I've also been having troubles with isolation for half a decade now. I'm planning to reconstruct my social life by forcing my self to do social activities, such as joining a club, volunteering, chatting with people in local online groups, etc.
The thought that your life may never truly be repaired is terrifying, but thankfully I have enough self confidence to know that is not true.
I wish luck to you and to me, keep crawling forward friend.

>>4767105
search in boomer forums such as wetcanvas and crimson daggers. The internet is irreparably fucked, you won't find a level headed community.

Beginner here. Everytime I draw, I feel awful because it's never good enough. I understand that one shouldn't feel completely content and to keep striving for more, however I just feel miserable after every drawing session. I see improvement over time but I never feel proud of myself. I suspect it's because I see the level of talent my peers and anons on here have and I don't believe I come close to that level.

Any advice to keep one's spirit up?

>>4769267
do more research into classes first

>>4769689
learn to live with it, that feeling will still be there when you get better, unless you reach god levels you'll never be good enough, just learn to be motivated by the feeling of you'll get better

>>4761282
>asian friend
>the bad guys were latino and black
i thought women aren't racist

>>4769689
it's ego. once you let go of that desire to be the better than everyone else, you'll start to feel good just drawing and get better. Ego is a sad thing, it's the thing that drives us but it also controls us if it's not detected. Try to find competence in real life skills and feel sufficient with the idea of never drawing ever again and it will help you along your journey to become a great artist.

>>4770030
Not that guy. I have a work that pays very well and you could say im very competent at it, it doesn't help. I draw every day and my art is shit and it makes me sad all the time, I hate everything I make. I really dont want to be better than X or Y. I just wanna make things that at the very least doesn't make me terribly miserable.

I hate that I keep putting off drawing because I have so many things to learn to do, yet I want to live off of it. So many contradicting elements in my life make me sound like I'm making excuses for not doing one or the other. I need to learn to drive, I need to have my own place, I need to finish college, I need to learn to be more self sustaining. I'm 3 years from being 30 and I still don't have my shit together.

And even then, after I draw something, I feel like it's worthless to post it anywhere since it's only impressive from a technical standpoint. I'm not a social person, but I NEED to be for the sake of publicity? I don't want to converse with anyone, I just want to enjoy myself.

>>4770319
See this is contradictory because you want the attention but you don't want to work for it. You make it sound like it's hard to gain a following, but the truth is most people just post what they like to draw and don't go out of their way to build a following. Secondly, "social media" is nothing like real social skills, posting on Twitter is not "being a social person" lol.

>>4770175
>I just wanna make things that at the very least doesn't make me terribly miserable.
That is the ego. You desire to be something you are not and you can tell its the ego specifically because it makes you feel like shit instead of inspiring you to work harder. Try to meditate on it and think about why you are miserable by not being able to achieve some abstract subjective standard you have and have a plan of attack to tackle the issue.

I can't live like this anymore, I keep lying to myself, but I just can't fucking deny that deep down I'm a fucking tranny. Of all fucking things I could've been, it has to be the fucking worst thing, this has to be some sort of punishment. Why couldn't I just have been born a dyke instead, literally anything would have been better than this. Ignoring this is making me want to kill myself, but acknowledging it is just as fucking disgusting. Please tell me I'd be better off dead. I'm almost thirty, believe me, I've tried to be normal, I've tried so hard, and it's just futile. I've only survived this long acting like a normal member of society by hurting myself continuously. I'm in therapy for depression and ever since bringing this up my therapist says the only thing that will help is transitioning, but I don't want to look like a freak
God I just want to be able to bury this shit 6 feet under and draw

>>4770909
Wait 2 more years for apples AR glasses then you can overlay a girl avatar on your body without taking the pink pill.

>>4770940
I already look like a girl, anon. I want to be a man

>>4770909
Feel for u bro hope we all make it to the cyberpunk future where everyone gets to be a robot with a swiss army knife down there instead of a dick or vegene.

What did Gayvin do this time?

what am I doing I should be working

>>4770909
>>4770950
whats the problem then just transition

>>4771107
>think I'm destined for greatness, I feel like the sun, feel like I deserve more attention for my shitty work
>get put in my place
>sink into pathetic self-hatred, bitterness; sour grapes
>surface and realize its fine, all that matters is that you try and keep trying
>learn to simply love the process and creating again; all jealousy and envy fades, I geuinely enjoying seeing others succeed now
is that called ego-death and please let it last

>>4771184
No one I talk to irl or online has a positive opinion when it comes to trans people. I wouldn't have anyone to support me, and I don't think I could make it. I'd have to spend another two years having to wait until I get testosterone in my country. All active support groups are focused on people under 25.

>>4771205
oh you're ftm, didnt realise sorry, but dont ftms all pass anyway and blend in super easily, should be easier than mtfs, and age doesnt really matter. People online like to say they hate trannies but most people wont hate you specifically if you are one, literally i was calling out someone for saying they hate trannies and he said yea but youre okay, and im pretty sure most of the hate is against mtfs anyway. Similar people will naturally come together, be open and you'll find supporters or other trans friends, i've met my best trans friends from video game/art places online or look for trans discords or something, but its usually harder to connect with people in those. hope this helps my dude

>>4771205
>>4771223
also cant you find testosterone online while you wait, im still waiting my 2 years until getting seen by a doctor and just bought pills from the internet

>>4771223
>>4771228
How did coming out go for you? It's one of the things I'm most scared about.
I once asked my mother what the worst thing I could ever do would be, and she said killing someone and being trans, so I don't think my parents will stand behind my decision

>>4771287
Sounds like your mom posts on /ic/

>>4771287
i kind of hid it until it was really obvious, but in the end my mum kind of accepts it begrudgingly, and my dad just wants me to be happy, i guess being depressed for my whole life helps. My parents are also from mainland china so they're pretty close minded, and i was supposed to be the only male in the extended family that could carry on the family name, which i guess is a pretty important thing for chinese boomers, but my dad wants me to be happy and even though he's obviously probably not happy about it he tries to appear supportive.
so i'd like to think your parents love you and would want you to be happy above all else, but i dont know them so i cant say for sure, but even if they're not supportive you shouldn't give up.

>>4771391

>>4759034
i'm a girl and I'd have the same reaction as you.
except for you. cmon, MAL? t h e w o r s t

sigh

>>4771405
please be my girlfriend

PLEASE BE MY GIRLFRIEND

>>4771407
>>4771414
you should really value yourselves more. asking random people on the internet out only ever ends in disaster. at least do a bit of research before you simp hm?

>>4771405
Be MY grillfriend

>>4771429
How do I do research on an anonymous female?

>>4771391
>Tfw no qt asian trap waifu to eat asian genes from
I didn't need these terrible feelings today

>>4771432
see above
>>4771437
it's a 50/50 shot whether you can do research when they're anonymous. typically just tracking typing patterns, reverse image searching, practically conspiracy theory-ing, etc. if they drop contact, even easier. just search if they've posted contact anywhere before. but most girls will find it disgusting if you stalk them so don't overdo it. you really only want to find out that they're not secretly manipulative and a psycho unless youre into that kinda thing. If you can't do research just give up, not worth it.

>>4771449
oh I'm an expert stalker so no problem
>fires up the ol'warosu

>>4771437
ask instagram and see her photos, friends and family to see how big her tiddies must be based on male friends and genes

>>4771451
you won't have any luck with me. i barely post anything ever and the rest of my posts are actually art related. I just couldn't resist shitting on someone who unironically uses MAL in 2020

>>4771455
okay

uhm >>4771407
here is my email please email me at: toheartfan@gmail.com

>>4771458
Insult me more!!!

>>4771459
time to bombard some innocent normie dumb enough to leave their email open on facebook

>>4771462
ok. i'm sure you're a good person at the core, but due to feelings of isolation in a typical social media environment, you've gotten used to the chaotic, anonymous environment here on fourchan dot org. this isn't quite where you want to be, but there's nowhere to leave to either. i'll just remind you that the nature of social media will inherently exclude the people who don't fit a specific group in the overall system. now that the normies are being forced to stay indoors, the ones originally here on the internet will slowly be alienated to the place that was once an escape from them.

or, at least this will apply to someone out there. can't be bothered to customize this specifically to you, yknow

>>4771494
Normies were infesting the net as soon as Jobs made the iPhone and broadband became the norm.

>>4771439
thats kinda cute/hot

>>4771506
yeah, but they only had a limited amount of time, so they couldn't really get into the setting. nowadays there's normies just wasting their time away on the internet to the point where they even pretend they've been here forever. there's enough documentation at this point to at least fake being here a decent number of years.

>>4771528
anyway she* (allegedly) still didn't email me :'(

I've been stuck at 199 followers for a few days...
I mean, I know I'm not great, but the quality of my stuff has been going up regularly, and so has my follower count, but it's been stuck on 199 or a while and it's quite upsetting for me now

>>4772143
draw fanart of something popular

>>4772251
I rarely do, because I hate chasing the flavor of the month...
But it's also true that my most viewed/liked posts have been of big popular franchises

>>4772269
Like something popular first then, I'm sure you can find something, try popular mobage, watch vtubers, watch new and hot anime/manga etc etc, most popular stuff have some merit to them and you'll probably find something you enjoy

>it's "jap goes on a rant in broken english on twitter" episode

>>4770909

Dont do anything to your genitals, trannyposters unironically lie about about the cosmetic surgeons most of the time. They have very low success rates, even at the best of time, and most people who hardcore transition live with nerve damage (which create near constant pain), uncanny scarring, or sometimes even worse. Keep seeing your therapist, and if he tries to gaslight you into transitioning, switch to someone new. Transtrenders are big business right now, and the average doc gets 25k a head for each surgery. Be careful who you trust.

fucking coworkers playing tiktok videos on repeat at least 20 times how do people not get annoyed themselves?

>>4772905
I don't need a dick as long as people stop seeing me as a woman. Also not sure I am a trender when this is something I've been hating myself over for almost 3 decades.

Bump

>>4762627
Still gon shitpost on here tho