/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Reference 01

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Reference 05

>>4759848
>those skinny chicken legs
/fit/ has ruined me, I swear to god

>>4759853
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Reference 06

The refposting is completely useless change my mind

>>4759861
Well they're gonna be useless if you don't use them. You're meant to pick one and try to draw it or at least copy the pose and learn from it. Now get drawing faggot

>>4759865
You are just encouraging begs to be lazy and comfortzone

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>>4759914
looking pretty good, anon! are you going to try and finish it or were you just feeling the form? the left leg does look pretty weird, but it is just a sketch so i guess i can let that slide.

Working through FWAP

Working through FWAP

1min fig

>>4759977
210s fig

>>4759980
5min head

>>4759983
5min land

>>4759853
Cool ref.

trash here

thoughts?

>>4759858
any more like this?

>>4759853
Should I keep going?

>>4760120
yes definitely! it's looking great! always try and finish a piece so you're always pushing your limits and improving

>>4760111
Looks like you're not paying attention to the shapes. I think it's important to start with a sketch if you're going to paint a portrait. Use the eraser to sculpt your shapes.
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/digital-painting-101/brusheraser

>>4760142
ok thanks bro

>spent like 4 hours drawing GUIDE LINES
>they still look wrong

>>4759664
I don't draw anime and I don't pretend to listen to advice, I just have BPD.
>>4759996
I want to be able to vary my lines, so far, it has been wrong, today though today we shall do it.
>>4760007
>Post your other drawings I think you're overreacting.
Huh, I can't but it's very easy to tell which drawings are mine
>>4760111
better than my own attempt, MY PEOPLE HOLD ON SAY IT SAY IT

>>4760177
Do you take stabilizers?

is there anything wrong with my line art? i made the perspective grid without using a reference this time.

>>4759853
pls giv me crit plspls : )

>>4760188
after looking at the photo i thought the hair and ear were too big so i changed it.

>>4759853
pls giv crit pls pls plss : )

>>4760202
hands and feet are bigger than the head..
clothes are massive compared to reference photo

i cant get over how much his hand looks like mickey mouse's

>>4760197
post the reference?

How bad did I do? And have a good day, anon :)

>>4760219
>line - scratchy
>mouth - too low
>face - 2d

>>4760216
i didnt have a reference for this one. i applied what i learned from memory. most of the time i had to crtl+z to redo a part if i think it looks off

>>4760219
Use loomis head method

>>4760224
>i didnt have a reference for this one
you should

So when people post references for study are we supposed to copy them 1:1 using block-in or loosely copy them using figure drawing methods like Vilppu/Huston? Do I focus on shapes or form? Can I still learn something if I draw them stylized?

this was my 1st attempt at something coloured and stylized.

>>4760246
i like the rat

>>4760259
cool stuff

On going

>>4760214
nice sketches anon

>>4760210
thank u anon!
still obviously struggling w head and hands here but i tried 2 fix it up as much as i could b4 moving on

For a higher level course I had to keep a journal of all the specimens we studied, specifically the point was to memorize the key traits of each species

Had to create a journal of all the preserved specimens in my high level bio class, the idea was to capture the key features of each species so some stuff is probably exaggerated

What's a good course to learn the fundamentals, I've never done any drawing before and just starting. Is drawabox or dynamic sketching good?

>>4760433
drawabox
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Trying to make loli n'wah
So far i trying different hair styles
Do you guys have any tips for body proportions ?
Be honest

Loomis really helping

How long have you been drawing, anon, that's remarkable stuff!

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>>4760454
big if from imagination

>>4760459
About 6 months of grinding fundies

>>4760462
6 months? That's good then, reasonable timeframe, no need to call PULSE DEMON. Unless you knew it was me and are now lying? What if it's one month instead?

>>4760454
blog?

maynard james keenan

>>4760470
>>4760456

>>4760461
Yep

idk man, maybe I should go back to the default brush, it feels like this one makes me draw a lot slower. Fucked up her pose a bit, she's leaning more forward in the ref and I did something wrong with her shoulders/trapezius, specially her right arm, left one looks too long?

>>4760477
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>>4760477
forgot to reply to the post with the reference >>4759835

>>4760478
It's been a while, I started copying anime in middle school and photos in high school, dropped it during college, and finally, I've been doing figure drawing/digital painting for about six months now.

trying to practice color

>>4760462
Any other resources besides Fun with a Pencil?

>>4760548
Bammes anatomy, erik olson perspective.

>>4760188
The face looks flat, remember that the head has a spherical shape, so the features should wrap around accordingly. But still it isn't bad, keep it up

>>4760552
>perspective
I need to learn this, thanks anon I'll give it a look right away.

>>4760273
Very renaissance like

What do I do if all my vanishing points go beyond the edges of paper a draw on? There is no way to draw anything that's not ant sized and still have them on the paper.

>>4760125
Thanks anon.

>>4760581
framed perspective vol 1. Page 50.

>>4760581
Page 51

>>4760581
you can secure your drawing on a very long table

Two days of face and doodles, is anyone else’s sketch book littered with random garbage?

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>>4760621
Feels like I’ve grasped the planes of the face I don’t know what lightbulb clicked in my mind but no adjustments for any of these, thoughts

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>>4760596
thanks
also the book seems usefull

How far do I get when I don't use books/education and just draw whatever I see?

I've finished my lion now, yet I tried to toy around with making marks instead of lines, I think I failed
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>>4760624
Answer it, for how long have you been drawing?

>>4760636
i do it and it works ok imo

>>4760624
hella cute

>>4760638
I’ve been “just draw” all my life pretty much, amp art in hs shitty art portfolio for college. Join ic about a year ago, grinding on and off for a year.

>>4760545
good shit anon
Need shapes

>>4760273
Good shite

More Loomis

>>4760704
the best thing that loomis created was his fucking head construction method, it's incredible, nice work anon

I FAILED YET AGAIN, IT LOOKS WEIRD not to mention the other one I DID

IVE FAILED AT THE LION

ALL LOOK DOWN ON ME HUH? YOU ONLY WANT TO MOCK ME FOR BEING INFERIOR I'VE ALWAYS KNOWN
I MUST BECOME THE PULSE DEMON, MY OWN DEMON, BEHOLD! MY FAILURE, LAUGH AT ME INSULT ME HATE ME LOATHE ME, I'M A DISGRACE, I'M A BIRD THAT CAN'T FLY

FROM THE FLOATING DEATHHHH
TO THE FIRE OF DEATHHHH TO A FLOWER OUTSIDE OF MY GRAVE
AN OLD MAN
OR WERE YOU JUST BEEEEEEEEEEEING POLITEEEEEEEEEEEE WITH YOUUUR HAAAAAANDS
AND IT REALLY MEANS I'M NUMBER ONEEEEE AND YOURE A FAN
WELL THATS COOL CAUSE I THINK YOURE NUMBER ONE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YEAH THATS COOL CAUSE I THINK YOURE NUMBER ONEEEE TWOOOOOOOOOOOOO YEAAHH THATS COOL CAUSE I THINK YOURE NUMBER ONE TWO

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ALL OF YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME, WHY? WHY ARE YOU SPECIAL YOU FUCKING MAMMALS? GOD
A DIVINE ENTITY SENT ME HERE TO SUFFER, ON THIS ROTTEN PLANET I ONLY WISH TO EXPLODE INTO WHAT I REALLY AM, FOR ALL OF YOU BASTARDS TO SEE ME, I'M NOT SPECIAL I'M THE LOWEST OF THE LOW, A MONUMENT TO FAILURE WHY ARE ALL OF YOU BETTER THAN ME?

>>4760704
Nice work

>>4760704
not enough symbol drawing on the headbands

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>>4760704
EVERY DAY I'M REMINDED OF MY OWN INFERIORITY, A COSMIC BITCH, YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN SPECIAL, WHILE I'M A MACHINE, DAY AFTER DAY EATING AWAY AT ANY SEMBLANCE OD SANITY, I'LL THE TENDONS OF THE WHOLE WORLD, I'LL BURST IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE WILL FOREVER REMEMBER ME, YET I FAIL AND KEEP ON FAILING, I'M A MONUMENT OF FAILURE, THE ANTITHESIS OF TALENT, WHY ARE YOU SO MUCH BETTER? WHAT GIVES YOU THAT RIGHT? WHAT MAKES YOU BETTER THAN ME? YOUR BLOOD? YOUR SOUL? YOUR SPINE? WHAT IS IT WHY CAN'T I HAVE IT?
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>>4760741
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Proportions are hard dud
critique?

NOT ALL BIRDS CAN FLY, I TRY AND TRY ONLY TO GLIDE YET OTHERS
THEIR SERVES ARE MEMORABLE, ALMOST PERFECT, MY SERVES ARE MESSY, AMATEUR
EVERYONE IS BETTER THAN ME
AT EVERYTHING
BUT FEELING LIKE TRASH
THIS WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING IF I DIDN'T HAVE TO EXIST ON THIS CURSED PLANET, STUCK HERE, IN MY PRISON, ART IS THE ONLY THING I WANT, THAT I DREAM OF, I CAN FEEL IT YET I'M NOT GOOD AT IT
>SELF PITY SELF PITY FUCK YOU
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, THIS IS NO LONGER SELF PITY, IT'S A COSMIC CRY AGAINST THE LAWS OF LIFE AND LIFE ITSELF, CURSED, IF ONLY PEOPLE COULD FEEL WHAT I'M FEELING, I CAN'T EVEN SHARE IT WITH ART, I'M A FAILURE IT WOULD TAKE ME THOUSANDS OF YEARS TO DO WHAT SOME WOULD DO IN A DECADE, IT'S ALL A JOKE
>>4760758
SILENCE, WHY ARE YOU BETTER THAN ME? YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT

>>4760766
Maybe draw more than you shitpost?

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YALDABAOTH IS TO BLAME, OR WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE, YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR THIS, I'M UNABLE TO FEEL AS OTHERS DO, WHY MUST THEY BETTER THAN ME?
>>4760772
I DO, YET I'M STILL TRASH, I'M AN INFERIOR BEING, I WISH I WAS BACK HOME BUT I'M STUCK WITH YOU FUCKING MAMMALS ON THIS PLANET

>>4760733
You are weak when you have every reason to be strong.
Give up.

A LION HUH? ANOTHER THING I FAIL AT
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WHY DO YOU EXIST? I KNOW WHAT I AM MAMMALS, WHAT ARE YOU AND WHERE DO YOU EVEN COME FROM?
>>4760775
I CAN'T GIVE UP, I DON'T WANT TO BUT WHY DO I FAIL
FAILURE, THOSE WHO FAIL ARE TRASH

>>4759856
first thing I noticed

>>4760777
bruh

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>>4760777
Shut the fuck up psued faggot. Stop posting.

>>4760779
>>4760782

He's the village schizo that shows up every now and then to post his jean pocket paintings

>>4760782
fucking MAMMAL THE LIKES OF YOU ARE HUMAN TRASH WE ARE NOT EQUALS AT ALL, YOU ONLY WANT TO MOCK ME ANYWAYS
I ASKED YOU WHAT I CAN DO TO IMPROVE IF
THERES
SUCH A THING CAN BE DONE HOPED TO
BUT I STILL LOSE I TRY AND I KEEP ON TRYING YET OTHERS ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN ME ALREADY

>>4759826

hi guys

delving into the digital world,what are your thoughts on one of my first pieces?

>>4760788
I despise doodleshit but this is pretty interesting.

>>4760783
JEAN POCKET?
ANOTHER WAY TO MOCK ME
I HAVE NEVER INSULTED ANYONE'S ART, IN FACT I ONLY GIVE COMPLIMENTS, YOU'RE TRASH
>>4760788
COOL lines

>>4760788
don't use round brushes, they make the painting look diggital.

>>4760791
thanks anon,appreciate it!

cant seem to break my doodleshit habit

>>4760794
ah excellent feedback,thank you anon.

ill try another brush and check results!

>>4760783
CRITICISM I UNDERSTAND, NO MATTER HOW HARSH IT MIGHT BE I'M ALWAYS GLAD FOR IT, BUT INSULTS ARE SOMETHING ELSE, YOU ARE A DISGUSTING MAMMAL WITH YOUR MAMMAL EMOTIONS AND MAMMAL PSYCHOLOGY, what do you even feel looking at art? not much I presume, I really feel everyone's artwork, no matter what it looks like as long as it's honest, human. An empty insult is only that, you're a piece of shit in human skin.

>>4760788
You posted this before, with the ska vibe

>>4760782
he uses a trip so you can block him

tried my hand at doing simple sketches with the ink pen in krita, mainly inspired by persona 5 concept art
im sorta satisfied with the results but i def think i can improve a lot and make my use of the brush more interesting

>>4760802
Is this from a final fantasy game?

SO you refuse to even tell me how trash I am, so be it then, if im to recover from this ill do it alone, i wont give you the pleasure to insult me any further
>>4760807
I KNOW YOU, COOL DRAWINGS ANON
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>>4760803
yes,thanks and good memory anon!

>>4760807
shit fundamentals and huge amounts of cope

>>4760704
Fuck this is motivating, I want to get this good. How long have you been drawing to get to this level?

>>4760777
mods please ban this mass replying jackass

Completely new, but I feel like I'm always missing something when it comes to construction. I understand the steps for the construction, how to place, etc. But looking at it, I know it is wrong. Do I just need to read/study more into it or is it just grinding it out until I can do it correctly?

>>4760802
If you actually want to improve, post your work so we can help you

finna shade this
wish me luck

>>4760840
You don't understand why construction is useful. It seems you're doing it because people told you to

>>4760862
Pretty sure that is what he is asking, for better understanding of construction.

'ere's 'at huwhistle notch we talked about

>>4760840
Well here is an update, I followed along with Proko's video and it seems better.
>>4760862
I understand its helpful for placement for the facial features, thats about it

>>4760861
gl

>>4760807
noice, the one with the melon looks good

>>4760881
>I understand its helpful for placement for the facial features.
That's the least important thing it does. Actually I don't think many artists give much thought to the the placement of the guidelines.

>>4760881
right eye is too far, bring it back
nice work overall, maybe just sharpen the chin more

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>>4760840
The upper horizontal line in the loomis head represents the eyebrow level, no the fucking eyes, lol.

>>4760477
Interesting, I did an ancher some days ago too, but didn't post because I thought it was too messy

The foreshortening of the arms is the most difficult part for me

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>>4760596
Nice, explained it way better than Robertson

>>4760840
Don't use loomis heads with anime. You can still construct if you're doing anime, but don't bother with loomis' method in that case.

>>4760774
Can you try drawing with like 3 cups of coffee and see if you get better for a couple days?

>>4760916
Really? I was told that method still works even with anime stylizations.

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>>4760928
y/n
y

>>4760938
Yes it still works and people use it.

Construction

What am I doing wrong. The face is all fucked up.

>>4760972
So anon lied then.

The construction.

Am I too stupid for even loomis? I see these doohinkuses in fun with a pencil basically go from random circles and spheres to detailed illustrations in one frame and it gets a bit much to copy.

Same for a lot of the later chapters about things like light, perspective, and etc, it goes from nothing to everything in a flash.

Didnt have this much of a problem with perspective made easy.

The construction.

>>4760974
Pupil placement, my man.

>>4760983
The "finished" result.

>>4760984
I see what you mean, how do I fix it? Any suggestions? I always have a mirror nearby and try my best to fix it, but I do not have concrete remedy.

>>4760974
Are you drawing one eye and then the other? Draw the basic shapes of both eyes (construction) to make sure they're both positioned right before you start adding details. And regardless of the tilt of the head, you should be able to go through both eyes with a straight line.

>>4760974
The eyes arent straight, I think. Draw a circle, find the eye line, and do that. Also, his right eye's pupil makes him look like he's looking behind me but his left is looking at me

>>4760981
I don't think he's trying to get you to copy, he's trying to get you to follow the general guidelines that he's showing and then having you do them yourself.

>>4760981
That's Andrew 'draw the rest of the owl' Loomis for you

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>>4760990
Is this better?

I always just call it quits or half ass it when I get to this point, rendering is kind of boring desu. Are there any good resources you plebes recommend for learning better rendering and edge control? I’ll need them to reach my full potential and show everyone how amazing I am.

>>4760881
I think it's getting easier to understand this now

>>4761003
No, what's fucked is that his eyes are lopsided.

>>4761013
Help me out then, any suggestions?

>>4760987
Do the lines go through both of the canthi?

>>4761003
shits floating off his face in the original like its in a swimming pool

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>>4761003
my bad forgot pic

>>4761034
So I have to wrangle in the eye? I think I am going to have to leave it as is, but thank you all for your help.

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>>4761013
Not that guy but I did a bunch of CSP editing on the eyes. Just lasso'd and moved

>>4761053
you never 'have to' do anything

>>4761056
its just staring right at us anon, it has to sit in the face, draw a line between them, imagine theyre two wheel on a car connected by a metal bar

>>4761056
Shit I was being retarded. I was working on the wrong eye.

>>4761060
Isnt it supposed to stare right at the viewer in the original or did I just misinterpret the drawing entirely?

>>4761058
I know, but I am a bit worn out for today, a bit hungry and the paper I am using is going soft.

>>4760985
thats not how people stand, the weight is placed differently
try to observe how humans stand

>>4761064
It is, but the right eye in your edit is not aligned with the left eye. The subject is cross eyed.

I hardened the shading, is it any better?

>>4761070
If the BG is going to have a lot of red in it, then this ain't beg, man.

>>4761064
well lets see the original

>>4759826
Took a stab at blocking in some hair. Was able to achieve a little bit of a ribbon structure on the right hand side of the head

>>4759826
fuck it, a more complete face i posted in the last thread

>>4761087
help if i posted the pic

>>4761076
And don't lie and say the BG is gonna be red, cuz you're only lying to yourself.

>>4761067
Good advice. I was trying to construct this without any references or such though. So more practice.

>>4761089
also, a quick samurai drawing

So my drawing style is really wobbly lines and superimposed drawings all over the place. im still a beginner and im afraid to show the drawings to anyone because theyll think im joking or something. what do

>>4761053
the way i see it there is two ways to unfuck this man

>>4761007
I doodled this one cuz I didn’t feel like seriously practicing. Done for the day, on to reading more mangos

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>>4761056
You fucking pile of garbage! You have absolutely no intention at all on trying to fix this, do you? You're just senselessly reposting this atrocity over and over again, isn't that right? You are NOT –not in sthe lightest– actually taking any, if at least one, advice. Stop spamming this deformed faggot, such an abhorrent freak. Fucking intolerable.

>>4761122
bruh

>>4761122
God this thread is dogshit

i just dfound out about photoshop brush packs and holy shit these are awesome im never going to use a normal brush again

>>4759835
Complete fuckin beg here.
This is one of the first pieces I've tried applying perspective too. Its shit but I'm trying to apply and learn new skills.
Any critique would be greatly appreciated.

>>4760712
PLS BAN THIS FUCKING GUY
MODS PLS

>>4759826
how the fuck do people even construct heads

>>4759835
Complete fuckin beg here.
This is one of the first pieces I've tried applying perspective too. Its shit but I'm trying to apply and learn new skills.
Any critique would be greatly appreciated.

>>4759835
Complete fuckin beg here.
This is one of the first pieces I've tried applying perspective too. Its shit but I'm trying to apply and learn new skills.
Any critique would be greatly appreciated.

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>>4761189
It looks like she's aiming at the wall and not out the window. Don't draw what you can't see and use your pencil to measure the angles correctly. And work on straightening your lines; use a ruler it's not cheating I promise.

>>4761185
1st you visualize a head, and then draw what you've visualized. done.

Are there any definitive videos that are absolutely helpful when it comes to coloring digitally? I've been looking at random videos on Youtube and at Ctrl + Paint but I just can't seem to grasp it. I got a tablet just yesterday too so that adds to the difficulty.

>>4760840
>Loomis
>Sphere
KEK
learn how a sphere works and you will be ahead of the others :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFKMw8YekFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PReCKFHG6A
and
If you can't even draw a circle, you should focus on that first before trying to draw the face, you're trying to learn two things at the same time (circle and head)
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>>4761211
Alright thanks. I can visualize in my head the angle on the plane shes on, I just have trouble drawing it because my mechanical skills are shit.
time to go buy a ruler

>>4761215
>draw the rest of the owl
thanks, anon!

>>4761219
Thank you, I will watch these and take notes and try to apply for the rest of my face practicing.

>>4761211
Garbage advice.
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>>4761225
At your level, you shouldn't care about being clean and neat (though you definitely need to start avoiding chicken scratching) and definitely shouldn't be trying to use a ruler for a sketch. What you need to do is learn construction and to understand form - right now you're just drawing an outline. Do Loomis and Vilppu if you want to improve. You're simply not at a level where you can get proper criticism.

>>4761216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nt9fa8jZUE

>>4761231
Learn perspective please
at least the box and the sphere(it will only take you 20-30h), with that you will easily master the head in weeks

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>>4761249
Is this thing even human?

>>4761249
its like they're peering into my soul. Eyes so dark you see the abyss.

>>4761246
I did the first lesson of drawabox so I have a general idea on perspective, but will definitely need to study more on it. Right now I want to try atleast some fun stuff after all the homework/study stuff I've done.

>>4761249
>str vs dex

>>4761239
Thank you, I will make sure to check this out. Digital drawing just seems to have a huge learning curve but I'll keep on working.

>>4761258
Idk what this means

>>4760822
Around 250 hours of loomis and portrait drawing.

>>4761070
Something about the roast in her hand is sexy AF.

Good job.

>>4761232
Alright thanks. I already got the mega file full of vilppus shit and have been waiting to tackle it. Tonight's the night.

>>4761254
You really ought to try perspective made easy, it's honestly the best if you're starting from very little on perspective, and very thorough.

>>4761232
>Garbage advice
explain. Drawing perspective or structures is the sort of thing where if your lines are even a tiny bit inaccurate then the whole thing is going to look warped and distorted, like the room he drew does.

>>4761273
I think the point he was trying to make is your advice is to advanced for me and hes right. I'm drawing outlines and not constructing work. I need to comprehend the basics before I can tackle perspective.

>>4760704
I need to learn to draw bodies. I grinded nothing but heads for months. Great work Anon.

>>4761105
I love you guys.

Made a lot of mistakes in trying to color this that made things harder down the line. Spent too much time handling these mistakes that I'm polishing a turd at this point, so I'm calling this done and moving on. Forgot about making the hands better.

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>>4759840
fun exercise

>>4761279
bodies are hard. good luck anon

>>4761293
Thanks Anon, I don't believe in luck but I'll take all the help I can get.

>>4759853

I feel I fucked up the placement of the eyes,any tips?

>>4761302
Eyes are fine, not enough forehead. Maybe even more forehead than my quick edit.

>>4761300
you need to show that the leg is coming forward. right now it just looks like a tiny leg. its a weird angle but you might want to exaggerate that pose or the shading a little to emphasize that the leg is coming at us.

>>4761300
he got some tiny feet

How's this so far? I am trying to use blues for shadows, not sure if it is looking weird or better

>>4761314
yea sorry about that the highlight i did erasing got smudged, but even so i should have emphasised it more with a shadow

>>4761286
bullshit, it looks great
i want to see how you would crease and shade the pants and shoes. get back on it.

>>4761341
looks good anon! good job drawing what you see. i think what you need to work on most is avoiding overblending, ie. incorporating more sharp edges in your painting, since everything looks a little blurry and overly soft right now
>>4760335
love these guys

>>4761338
yup having in mind asians have small feet

I've started reading Vilppu's Figure Drawing Manual and I've read through the gesture section. I've also practiced gesture for around 2 weeks now. However, my gestures still look nothing like Vilppu's. Should I keep practicing gestures or move on to the Spherical Forms section?

>>4761286
feet hands and legs are fucked
learn basic anatomy

Any opinions

>>4761346
Thanks for the kind words bud! I'll see what I can do if I have some time but I'm kinda burnt out by it.
>>4761370
Got some recommended materials for that crit-anon?

>>4761362
I say you move on but also see how Huston or Hampton do gesture and see if their way is easier to understand

>>4761387
bretty good but you need to push the values more.
Also resize your images to a smaller size.

Suggestions before flats and shading?

>>4761450
Looks nice, really dig the hands. Her left ear is too small and too far down and her right eye is off. Just out of interest, what is she holding, are those sex toys??

>>4761461
>Just out of interest, what is she holding, are those sex toys??
... I'm pretty sure they're just some virtual reality controllers.

>>4761461
Those would be HTC Vive wands. VR controls.

I made the boob Knight from a few threads ago. Here's some more anatomy practice I'm doing trying to nail down proportions. Focusing on limb foreshortening and boobs currently. I'm having some trouble with the area around the pussy though, particularly the lines that give the area definition.

>>4761341
I look at this and thought the draw was really shit, then I saw the reference next to it. You managed to encapsulate reality perfectly.

>>4761481
cant help you but good job, keep grinding

nice

I haven't drawn literally anything for the past three days what the fuck happened
It's only been two months since I started

>>4761481
>>4761490
Here's some more that I did yesterday, gottah go back and finish these though

>>4761481
I thought we told you to fuck off until you actually started putting effort in and made something of value. This is weeb coomer garbage.

>>4761508
thats a fine arm, left side of bicep might have the wrong shape though

>>4761450
maybe move the left arm up a hair, the upper arm looks just a little too long i think

>>4761481
Cringe and ngmi

Drop the hobby

>>4761529
How do I learn to render besides copying? Any good course? Books seem to be mostly theory on this subject

>>4761529
pyw

>>4761531
You reply to the wrong person?

>>4761534
Yeah sorry I click on random anons to open the post box, forgot to delete anon's number there :)

Should I aim to make my art style more clean or does dirty stuff like pic related have appeal? I just got my first drawing tablet and discovered the ink brushes, and I have a lot of fun drawing chaotically like this but I'm unsure if it'll be receptive

>>4761533
We're not talking about me, this retard keeps posting low effort drivel and shitting up the thread. You should have seen some of the trash he's posted.

>>4761481
Why do you keep gender-bending the characters from your comic? [spoiler]not saying stop just wondering

>>4761481
Why do you keep gender-bending the characters from your comic? Is this foreshadowing future events? not saying stop just wondering

>>4761538
Draw cleaner and grind fundies. Even if you like the dirty look, you will progress faster because you can see your mistakes when the dirt isnt covering them.

>>4761544
The idea popped into my head if I turned the characters into sexy girls the comic might get more popular.

>>4761501
Don't pressure yourself. If you feel like drawing wasn't very fun recently try to make it fun again. Otherwise it will be really exhausting. Trying out new stuff also helps. Recently I drew random stuff with a friend on aggie.io, I don't even have a tablet but goofing around with the mouse was enjoyable. Or just sketching stuff with a ballpoint pen, since you can't erase there's no pressure to make it perfect, just restate

>>4761538
What a fucking acid trip of a style, I love it, especially the red overlapping the green, the weird antennae, and the screaming and emotion. Left eye looks like it does a weird curve because of the overlapping hair lines. Mainly just a compositional thing.

Do what >>4761546 said, but don't be afraid to let loose with your creativity during sketchbook funtime. Imagine how amazing your work will be when it becomes tighter fundamentally and looser creatively. Start with perspective, and try your hardest to work into fish-eye, 5 point, and extreme angles, both wide and narrow. It's hard as balls, but will compliment your style immensely.

>>4761481
>>4761508
Your stuff is garbo, come back in maybe 5 years

how we doing boys?

>>4761564
I'm high on ketamine

>>4761564
same old

I find that having a specific end goal I mi d motivates me rather than an ambiguous "get gud". I want to draw anime titties so I can draw my dream coomer manga. This motivates me to draw.

>>4761341
nose needs to drop some, right eye and eyebrow is slightly off the reference's shape, giving her a bit of a bit of a crazy/intrigued/psychotic vibe instead of the reference's generic candid smile. the black straps of the bra thing could use some form and the ear shape is wonky, but needs to be covered up by the hair anyway.

I remember you're completely new to color theory and painting though, so this is a fantastic starting point. Just make sure to have some variety in your choice of reference instead of ALWAYS muscular women, assuming that this is some weird fetish thing you have going on.

>>4761538
I think that's a bit too chaotic. Maybe a middle ground?

>>4761568
Hmmmmm, high on ketamine I am, draw today, I must.

>>4761546
>>4761590
this is me actually using guidelines and stuff. I don't actually understand color other than "oh that looks nice"

Please recommend this beg a good book to read alongside Michael Hampton's analytical gesture drawing video lectures.

>>4761575
having specific goals helps measuring your progress and gives you a guideline on what to improve

>>4761597
Holy fuck dude please make a blog

How to be more creative with my lines? does it come naturally? How to do textures like this?

>>4761597
It does look nice.

>>4761609
I literally only started using Twitter like two days ago. Don't actually understand it very well
https://twitter.com/trvlingtrvsty

>>4761568
does it help you draw?

>>4761570
whats stopping you?

>>4761597
looks cute, very stylized

>>4761602
Figure drawing for artists is great for applying gestures

>>4761612
Think using keywords and correlate it on which method would best convey it. The rock's outline is "sharp", so a thin and bold pen-like tool is used. The rock's main surface is "dusty", so a wide, grainy, light tool is used.

The pillow is soft, cottony, and cloud-like, so despite having sharp creases with a regular pillowcase, a soft and cloudy tool is used to envelope how it should feel on touch.

>>4761555
Fish eye is one of the most fun tropes desu

>>4761617
I would follow if I had twitter. How long have you been drawing?

>>4761597
What software do you use?

>>4761626
This is probably goint to sound like a bullshit excuse to you but I'm having issues with that, I don't know how to translate a quality into actual lines, don't know why. For example, think of something light and soft but somewhat solid like plastic, what the hell would I even do there? Cloth might be easier but I failed at that one too

>>4761626
thanks

How do I learn to render smoothly? I understand blocking in values but once I’m done with that I don’t know how to blend it and make it smooth. I heard I should use hard round and no airbrush but the hard round is hard to blend with

>>4761633
On and off since I was like four, but I never actually tried to improve or anything. Also because I always did it "on and off" like months at a time, it sorta kill my gains I did make and I'd go backwards

>>4761625
>whats stopping you?
too depressed the last couple days

>>4761640
no but how long have you been taking it seriously?

>>4761642
whats making you depressed?

>>4761643
like maybe a month

>>4761635
Plastic is surprisingly complex and can take on many forms. Grocery bags to cigarette butts, it just takes on many forms. Plastic bags aren't really hard nor soft, maybe crinkly? Cloth too, it can be light microfiber, all the way to extra-large thick towels. The reason why your rock/pillow texture is obvious is because the object is obvious.

Start with simple, obvious textures (hard, soft) and work with there. And even with the complexity of your material, I doubt you "failed" as much as you said you did anyway.

>>4761640
You kept a lot of your gains, especially your confidence with simplicity. That Travis Touchdown looking motherfucker sketch is sharp too, if that's not a copy you're already set on imagination. Just some work on figure drawing, perspective, and rendering is all you need. The rest will come naturally, more already has than what I have in total.

>grow up as a kid
>love reading, very interested in art
>school had no real facilities for art until highschool
>took one class
>was basically just a 'show up, draw whatever however, and you pass'
>learned nothing except two point perspective, drawings still look like chris chan garbage
>final year, time to choose a college
>all the articles say you need to learn stem
>have a passing interest in computers
>advisor says majoring in english or art would be a bad idea for me
>apply for computer science
>get in
>spend 4 years doing something i absolutely loathe
>graduate
>cant stand the idea of working in technology
>deliver pizzas
>brainfog has stolen all creativity

i wish i had any fucking opportunity to actually dabble in any interest. its not fair. i dont even know where to start
i already tried loomis years ago and grinding slides. i just dont have the heart for anything anymore/ i dont understand why life has to be so hellish. i was interested in botanical drawings and animation but college took that away from me. i dont understand how the people in this thread can be so good

>>4761677
>i was interested in botanical drawings and animation but college took that away from me.

I wish I had your degree, lad. You already have more software confidence then most of us, especially with non-art related software.

You need to recognize the talents and trades you have and start applying them together, as well as planning ahead for newer skills you believe you'll achieve. For example, I have some basic modding knowledge and I'd love to make a simple platformer game if I ever get good enough with art to get into animation. Maybe you could make a farming simulator game about weird alien plants shipped from various planets, some carnivorous or whatever, and you have to manage their coexistence. Kinda like Insaniquarium or Zoo Tycoon. Have some high-school science material in there too, like basic chemistry to work as a game mechanic.

Or a plant girl dating sim, that works too.

>>4761673
A MONTH HUH?
WHAT MAKES YOU SPECIAL, HAND IT OVER
>>4761674
PLASTIC EH? PERHAPS IT WAS TOO COMPLEX FOR MY CURRENT SKILLS WHICH ARE NOT A LOT I MUST SAY, SADLY.
OH NO MY FRIEND I DID FAIL
ALL MY LINES ARE EMPTY NO PERSONALITY, DESCRIPTIVE AND BIZARRE IN THEIR SIMPLICITY

>>4761688
>OH NO MY FRIEND I DID FAIL
Can I see it?

>>4761685
listen. you genuinely already know more than me about technology. you dont learn something you hate. you fundamentally cant. i know nothing about computers. i know even less about making games than i do art

MY REASONS FOR WANTING TO DO ART ARE DARE I SAY MORE NOBLE THAN MOST OF ALL ARTISTS, YET ITS ME THE ONE WHO HAS TO SUFFER
>>4761696
I ate it, but let me describe it to you
Tried 4 objects, a metal box, paper, a hairband and a cup, failed on all of those,vonly made outlines, I shouldnt be having an issue with this, its unfair.

>>4761700

I cant do that line shit either trying painting it instead.

>>4761677
get the fuck back to /vent/ thread, you fucking loser

>>4761702
No,this is a roadblock on my way to learn the arts, I can't ignore it, besides what does it day about me that I'm having an issue with this? This is a disaster, my dear friend, we must recover from this quickly

>>4761698
Anon, ignore this poster >>4761704
He's a deluded mammal obsessed with people like us, that is, actual humans with conflicts.

>>4761705

Ive managed to ignore it forever. Just color your shit bruv

>>4761709
NO, DONT YOU GET IT
YOU SHOULDNT DO THAT A PROPER UNDERSTANDING IS RESPECT FOR THE ART FORM
BESIDES I NEED IT FOR THINGS TO BE DYNAMIC AND EXPRESS THINGS BEYOND POSITIONS, OUTLINES HAVE NO PERSONALITY, TEXTURE WORK AND UNIQUE LINES THAT BRING ABIUT EMOTION ARE KEY, AND ALSO A SOLID GRASP OF THE SUBJECT WILL ONLY MAKE THINGS EASIER

>>4761711

Brev you can do texture and materials differentiation with paint.

>>4761714
I'll learn to paint when I have to and I'm able to, for now, drawing only.

>>4761698
>you genuinely already know more than me about technology.
My code in my image would like to have a word with you about that.

>you dont learn something you hate. you fundamentally cant. i know nothing about computers.
Why do you not like computers or technology? Why do you feel like you know nothing when the dozen Mensa-accredited Ph.Ds that taught you would say otherwise?

>>4761700
>You ate it
Nice

Metal is reflective and requires more knowledge about shading than just simple hatching to work right. The paper really should just be an outline when you think about what you're drawing on. As for the cup and hairband, those again are plastic, which could have any number of reflectivity, softness, or overall complexity.

If you drew all 4 on a single page, use a page per object next time and draw bigger. Texture and feel needs a lot of space to express itself.

>>4760859
You only wanted to mock me

>>4761720
I dre all of them on a different page
Tomorrow I shall try again if I can gather some courage, I'll post it if so althought I don't expect anything other than absolute failure, just see what happened with the lion.

>>4761717

You can learn to paint at any time and its not hard if you're willing to do it digitally. The only obstacle to learning in traditional is materials costs anyway.

>>4761724
The only failure you should avoid is the failure to recognize failure. Keep a healthy mind, maintain your necessities, and try again.

Gnight, mate.

>>4761727
I've gotten distracted
>>4761673
WHAT MAKES YOU SPECIAL MAMMAL? WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT? WHY ARE YOU BETTER THAN ME?

>>4761677
You could have been drawing in your free time while studying CS. Hell, you could have been drawing during lectures.

>>4761720
graduation has nothing to do with learning anon dont pep talk me here in regards to technology. i hate it and i cant do it. end of story. i would not be able to make your code

>>4761688
What the fuck, I thought I filtered you
Did you change your trip?

>>4761731
could have beens doesnt fix my life

>>4761677
>graduate
I'm jealous. I dropped out of college twice.

>>4761738
smarter than me then

>>4761732
YES YES,YPU TOO HAVE KNOWN FAILURE AND DESPAIR, THESE PEOPLE HATE US ANON, BUT YOU MUST PURSUE THAT YOU LIKE I GUESS ONLY THEN CAN YOU GET REVENGE
>>4761735
SILENCE MAMMAL, YOU'RE MAMMAL TRASH

>>4761730

Because he didnt get distracted probably.

>>4761742
HOW OLD IS HE ANYWAYS?
>>4761617
HOW OLD ARE YOU? MID 20S?

>>4761739
Yeah, you're probably right. I'm too intelligent to graduate. That's gotta be it.
I bet that's also why I don't have a job.

>>4761744

Idk man hes better than I was after a LITERAL MONTH of drawing but Id wager you're bad because you do... whatever this is... instead of drawing.

>>4761564
need to fix the hands but so far so good

>>4761746
yes. you are too intelligent. if you think im a dumb idiot for saying that than clearly college isnt for smart people as im a graduate.

>>4761735
Look I dont like being the pulse demon as much as you like having him post here, it's just something that happens

>>4761747
Pay attention to the conversation >>4761640
This anon could be talented right? I've been drawing for a month and my stuff is a disaster, WHY THEN MUST HE BE BETTER THAN ME

>>4761750

Is this some Chuunibyou shit I havent been in this thread or board for a very long time.

>>4761755

Its because you've been drawing for a MONTH dipshit. I came in with no prior experience and I was horrible 1 month on too. Talent is like ... 3% of this max.

>>4761756
IT DOESNT MATTER >>4761755
READ THIS YOU FUCKING MAMMAL

>>4761760
MAY I SEE YOUR ART?
CANT BE WORSE THAN MINE? POST YOUR ART ONE MONTH IN

>>4761748
Love it, dude. Maybe simplify the tail curve, it looks like it's doing some weird loop behind the leg. Arms and shoulders look beefy too, but hey it looks cool.

>>4761763

Sure. I was dreadful a month in.

>>4761748
>>4761564
Faking curiosity and empathy? Interesting

I see it's underage schizo hours again

>>4761767

Quit doing your fucking chuuni shit man Im trying to have a conversation with you.

>>4761765
Better than me
>>4760945

WHY IS LITERALLY EVERYONE BETTER THAN ME ONE MONTH IN? HAVE I BEEN FOCUSING IN THE WRING THINGS? WHY
>>4761769
I HAVE BPD NOT A SCHIZO

>>4761770
there was an anon who mocked my figurr drawings by telling me they were good,at the time I was half fooled since I knew of their terrible quality, I've brrn scared to try again.
An anon today asked me about my work only to gather that material to mock me with others
AND PEOPLE ONE MONTH IN ARE WO MUCH BETTER THAN ME
MAYBE NOT ALL BIRDS CAN FLY

>>4761771

M8 what I was literally worse than you if thats your work. You have poor self image to top everything else off.

>>4761772
Because they're more talented than you that's why. Stop worrying about how good everyone is in relation to yourself and focus exclusively on yourself. You don't realize just how unlikable you are when you keep making the same dogshit pity party posts

I havent done any real drawings, I consider all of those to be as abortions, failures, thats why I have been known to eat some
>>4761778
I dont need your pity
>>4761765
This is one month in after all

>>4761783
As pulse demon then maybe I can do something to tip the balance of talent on my favor, perhaps I ought to venture again into occultism
I MUST WIN

>>4761772
Bro. Please go to a therapist because at this rate you might crash and burn.

>>4761785

Im two years in now. That piece is awful and you're conflating it as better than your own work because you lack the relative experience to judge quality.

>>4761787
>>4761783
>>4761778
This is a grotesque drawing I did, I got carried away chasing detail so I ended up losing to someone else on here
I ate it, just like chronos ate his children, I must eat certain failures

>>4761783
Talent? they dont deserve it, why are my serves worse than theirs? I'm noble they're not.

>>4761789

I *LITERALLY* could not do that a month in. Hell realism/semirealism still throws me for loops now I dont draw it everything I do is ultrastylized. If you think everyone is lying to you or conspiring why the hell would i do that? Im literally just here because I cbf to draw rn.

>>4761788
No, I couldnt care less about that particular detail, what matters here is that this >>4761765 is you're one month in entry, you're mocking me arent you?

>>4761793
This is what the other anon did
He was closer to the reference, he won

>>4761794

If you assume that you can't be helped. I mean I sat around for 4 months polishing a turd in this exact same kind of funk because I have diagnosed PTSD myself, and its real damn similar to BPD. I know why you're wrong and what you're doing, you're trapped in a negative feedback loop of your own thought processes.

>>4761772
I love you Goro poster but why aren't you JUST DRAWING

The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried

you retard

>>4761798
Ahhh now I get it, you're that anon aren't you, the one who mocked me with a picture of vilppu, ahhh so that's what's goibg on here, I thought you eanted to talk to me but you're here again,nin some sort of twisted pleasure at mocking me again, trying to confuse me, you're >>4761748 aren't you?
Some people herr think that I HAVE PRIDE ON MY WORK, I DON'T I KNOW IT'E TRADH SINCE YOURE ALL SO MUCH BETTER THAN ME HUH
BUT NOOOO
WHY WOULD I PRIDE MYSELF ON ABORTIONS? THISE DRAWINGS ARE FAILURES, COMPLETE ABORTIONS I MUST DESTROY AND I HOPE THE NEXT ONE AND THE ONR AFTER THAT AND SO ON IS BETTER THAN THE LAST

>>4761800
Because i cant sleep due to the pain of failure, that grotesuqe lion and textutes not TO MENTION ANOTER FUCKING PERSON ONE MONTH IN WHO IS BETTER THAN ME
its past midnight so I cant draw right now

>>4761792
You're A FUCKING FAGGOT man. Literally every post is just rambling about how much you suck, then you ask others to ptw, they do and you rage about being worse. Comparing yourself to others is idiotic, you're only setting up yourself for disappointment. This isn't a competition, everyone grows at their own rate. I've been wanting to draw cartoons since my childhood but during my teens I lost all hope because I compared myself constantly and eventually gave up. This mindset is poison, you need to enjoy drawing at your current level (which isn't even "bad" as you keep saying) so you won't get even more frustrated.

Also, go to a therapist. BPD is treatable.

>>4761807
Anon I still have years of experience JUST DRAWING, it's just that i've only actually been trying to improve on purpose for a month

>>4761805

No fucker I'm a guy who has not been in /ic/ for a year and just spent 4 months breaking down in /asg/s discord *very publicly* so Im sodding telling you your fucking deluding yourself. I have better things to do than fuck with beg thread regulars like that like *actually trying to draw and paint*

>>4761808
>it's not bad anon
BULLSHIT
>>4761797 >>4761789
Compare these two
>>4760766
See my failure of a lion, mind you the other one eas much worse
>>4760945
See these ones

I've been asking how to improve the past few threads only to be met with hostilities
>>4761809
>>4761810
This is a plot against me isnt it?

>>4761812
Wow you failed so what go try again and again and eventually you won't fail. Go practice instead of screeching at people about how you deserve to be better than them because it's your God-given right.

>>4761812
I stand on what I said. It's not bad. Of course there's room for improvement, but without room for growth, art would be very boring, wouldn't it? Now you'll probably think I'm "mocking" you, but I'm not that kind of person. Also, you still really should go to a therapist, not trying to gaslight you, I'm just concerned for your health.

>>4761814
Im having issues with making my lines unique, you can see it all over the lion, im too robotic at times

>>4761816
All I want by posting those things here is heloful criticism, somewhat harsh if it needs to be but not empty insults and a clear way to improve, to win.

>>4761813

Go into the anime study threads discord and ask them if its a plot. You absolute fool, I'm trying to save you from my own damn mistakes.

>>4761816
A therapist is not needed, I have an edge I think, art can be about emotions by feeling things in such a strong way, it might help me.

>>4761813
Okay, here's my legitimate advice: go get therapy because you're clearly mentally ill, and get out of your awful habit of comparing yourself to everyone else. You straight aren't even in the mindset that will let you improve.
It's like you're trying to chop down a tree with a butter knife and wondering why everyone who's using an axe is doing it better than you. It's because you're straight setting yourself up for failure.

>>4761825

No amount of emotion is going to help if you're default state is "ive never improved Im so bad sadsack sadsack wah wah blah"

>>4761827
No I must answer thr question why are they better than me and once I have it fix it

>>4761832
Because they're using an axe and you're using a butter knife
It's your MINDSET. That's why. That's the literal reason why it's your mindset that's flawed that is why they are better than you. Don't ask this question again.

>>4761797
haha, I am still here, kek
end this drama, wimp

>>4761838
btw will draw today, took a small break (grinded weights in the gym), now I feel better than ever and ready to reach new heigths

Should I feel bad about this or am I not tracing as long as the drawing isn't directly over the ref? This is sort of a study so I can figure out proportions, but I wanted to do it in a way that seemed more fun to me, but I am also planning on posting this

>>4761886
When you're sight-sizing (drawing at a 1:1 scale) then it becomes extremely easy to get proportions right since you can just measure everything exactly. I think if you specifically want to practice proportions, try to draw larger than your reference. It's okay if they're not perfect as long as they aren't offensively wrong. You want to train your eye to see mistakes without having to rely on actual measurements.

>>4761886
What the fuck do people even think tracing even means anymore??? And do people actually think using references is cheating or something???

>>4761809
All your heads are skewed to the right. You'll probably see it if you flip the canvas.

>>4761832
Talking to someone who figures out other people's brains for a living might help with that.
Stop shitposting and go see a therapist.

>>4761906
Real artists only draw blindfolded.

>>4761535
>not using 4chan x.