/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4738106
Pic unrelated of course
OP just has shit taste is all

>>4738106
Why is every face from a colored manga, but Gyros are from covers? Nice cherrypicking nigger

looks fine to me

I don't think its possible for an artist to get worse over time

>>4738106
bait

>>4738106
>lowqualitybait.jpg

What happens to good people like Picasso who fall into the abstract trap?
Do they regress really bad if they try realism again?

>>4738106
these are all great in their own way
except for that first one

>>4738275
>What happens to good people like Picasso who fall into the abstract trap?
You are still baiting.

Picasso was product of his times, he lived at the time when photography became mainstream and artists all over Europe were panicking that they will be replaced by machines. So the only obvious solution was to experiment and create art that photography cannot recreate with a simple press of a button, to do this artists attempted to find out what made the art of the ancient ages good and tried to imitate that.

Also Picasso was not a "good person" he married twice and had four children from 3 different women and had many other non-documented relationships. He was also notorious abuser who drove his second wife to suicide and other women to nervous breakdowns.

>>4738310
>Also Picasso was not a "good person" he married twice and had four children from 3 different women and had many other non-documented relationships. He was also notorious abuser who drove his second wife to suicide and other women to nervous breakdowns
I don’t get it, he seems based, I don’t see how he’s not a “good person”, I’d buy him a round of drinks desu

>>4738317
>hurr look at me im edgy
15 years too late, bud

>>4738106
>shitty colored version
>faces are chosen at random instead of the panels where the face is the focus
>late part 7 is a fan coloring of a black and white cover while early part 8 is a small random panel instead of literally any other shot of gappy's face
you could make an argument part 8 has had a dip in quality because araki is getting older/tired of working on the same story for 8 years but the chart is otherwise bullshit

>>4738106
araki has actually improved exponentially as an artist lol i love his style

>>4738266
Someone post that tumblr user that draws tranny captain america

>>4738106
Araki has regressed but ONLY on ass. He's working on it though. Slowly but surely you can see the 'awful' evolution of ass starting in the lumpy asses of Golden Wind, to whatever the fuck he was doing with asses in Stone Ocean to The Diaper in Steel Ball Run and to the current box that is the Jojolion ass. You can tell he's measuring or using some sort of reference and its terrible but the dude is actively trying and I love that. His asses peaked in Strardust

>>4738106
>ITT: artists who got worse over time.
i know one. he goes by "OP"'

>>4738106
You start retard
You could start off the thread by posting your art as an example.

Some anon here once said all the characters Araki draws are basically Britney Spears recolors. I will never unsee it now.

>>4739382
Holy Shit!

>>4739382
Good thing I already hated Jojo

>>4739382
SBR and JJlion faces always reminded me of top right picrel but I can see that, too

>>4738106
lmao Early Part 4 was hilarious, just take a look at his anatomy. Late part 4 to late part 5 is best imo

>>4739184
So what does the ideal ass look like?

>>4738400
Early part 8, sure. Rn though he's hitting a stride with the story and visuals

>>4739382
Based

>>4738106
I wouldn't say he's gotten worse, although I'll always like the Late Part 3 and 4 styles the most.

It's just really jarring when he goes back and draws anyone from parts 1-3 in his current style where everyone's slimmer. Especially Jonathan and Joseph

darkgem

>>4738317
You dropped your incel forums subscription buddy, there you go

>>4738317
based

>>4739184
>You can tell he's measuring or using some sort of reference
he uses greek and italian sculptures as references

>>4738310
>An artist was not a "good person"
Why would anyone give a single fuck? His products is all that is important. He could be saint or devil himself, live his private life private, faggot.

>>4738360
Cringe, and I was completely unironic
>>4739661
I’m a Chad that has a lot of cool sex with hot women
>>4739665
>>4739768
Based

>>4738310
>Also Picasso was not a "good person" he married twice and had four children from 3 different women and had many other non-documented relationships. He was also notorious abuser who drove his second wife to suicide and other women to nervous breakdowns.
You talk like abusing women is a bad thing.

>>4740035

>>4739382
its only part 7 he did Britney

>>4739445
>So what does the ideal ass look like?
he's going for more realism so it should be more realistic Should look like a real ass with muscle dips and all, anatomically correct, etc etc

>>4738317
How's having no sense of responsibility, morality or even mental stability/emotional control when it comes to interpersonal relationships "based"? It's being a degenerate hedonistic slave who follows his baser instincts.

>>4740585
> How's having no sense of responsibility, morality or even mental stability/emotional control when it comes to interpersonal relationships "based"?
You wanna know how I can tell you’re a roadie/faggot? I’ll leave you with this based virgin vs Chad meme since I can’t be bother to argue with a woman or a man that acts like a woman

>>4740606
>ugh I don't wanna waste time on u
idk lad, sounds like you don't have an argument to begin with lmao

>>4740606
>based virgin vs Chad meme
actual cringe, are you underage or some shit?

>>4740617
No because that would deviate from the original purpose of the thread, which has already gone to shit. Speaking of, I do think Sakimichan has devolved thoroughly as a result of not having to work for anything more than coomer bux. And there’s nothing wrong with treating relationships with the lesser gender as shit, because that’s what they are
>>4740647
>actual cringe, are you underage or some shit?
Mentally yes, does that mean I can go and get 16 year old waifus now?

>>4738106
Oda

>>4740699
Holy shit, is this real? Phew, I can’t believe one’s taste could devolve so much. What was once a dynamic and action packed artist who put his soul into every pen mark, every brush stroke has now devolved after several hundred chapters of run on tomfoolery. Good lord, I can’t even begin to explain how campy and gay the bottom image is, whereas the top one exudes life.

Feels bad man

>>4740699
When oda became a coomer the art dipped

>>4740699
Oda is one of my art inspirations, but I'd be lying if I said I loved the post-2007(Thriller Bark arc) art style. Zoro is the only character designed who I pretty like throughout all the years & feel like many of the characters between 2005-2007 should have evolved artistically in a more fluid way. What I mean is that Nico Robin during Water 7 and post timeskip are not the same people. Again, still like Oda's art, but feel like he did a lot of the lead characters a disservice in my opinion

>>4738317
Basado

>>4740699
I like both

Frank Miller? He used to be a pretty good Neil Adams clone until he fell for the abstract

>>4740861
isn't oda a joke in the manga community in japan? I think his art is pretty unique but i don't see a substancial improvement in his drawings beside put more shadows

If i steal old art style that mangaka already abandoned will that still count as stealing?

>>4740950
no, anon, he isn't... please stop spreading lies

>>4741489
You can't steal a style

>>4741584
Oh yes, you can

To be fair he fell from the golden era cartooning designs

>>4738106
mid to late part 4 was perfect
mid to late part 2 is fun
Everything else is shit.

>>4741631
I've noticed in a lot of illustrations that they don't do any shading if something is red, like Demitris cape and caps boots in pic related, does anyone know the reason for this?

>>4741846
>Having such shit taste
how do you live with yourself, anon?

>>4738266
What were you saying?

>>4742734
oh god i forgot about this, how's their art now?

>>4741970
looks good, brings out that cel/silhouette feel

>>4740950
>isn't oda a joke in the manga community in japan?
lol what the fuck did he mean by this

>>4740950
nu-oda uses shadows more sparingly than ever

>>4741619
To the point that he replaced the original artist

>>4738310
>Also Picasso was not a "good person"
Who even said that, nigger? Anon was clearly talking about his technical skill.

I don't give two shits about Shitasso and hope he had a miserable death. I also wish nothing but disgrace upon unfaithful people. Yet your attempt to diminish his already terrible art using some Twitter-tier gossip that has nothing to do with art makes you even more pathetic than him. Kill yourself.

>>4740705
I seriously can't tell if you're being sarcastic, y'know, using a Bubble Bass pic and all.

>>4740697
>Mentally yes
based retard

>>4741970
The boots are really distracting. Looks unfinished.

>>4738106
>using fan-colored scans to judge the quality of the artwork
What fucking retard made this? Why did they use close-ups for the earlier parts but not for later parts?

>>4741970
>they don't do any shading if something is red
Clearly not a rule, though. In that very pic his gloves and shield are both shaded, plus the red on his suit.

>>4741970
Pretty sure it's just low quality scans.

>>4738106
Kentaro Miura. Berserk looks terrible since they got to alfheim

>>4738106
I don't remember well but it was a furry artist that i loved, he made a furry wolf girl "Zoe" it was called, his style was awesome but then i don't know WTF happend but in a year he fall down into clif he was drawing her with a bunch of tattos and a really heavy shade with a heavy ilumanation, with ugly expresions, then i saw in his Tumbrl, he was making fat-fur. I stop follow him i don't know nothing about him now, maybe his back on tracks i don't know, i hope so

>>4738106
Shadman. He started with beg art, then tried really hard to get good around 2014 - 2017 and from then on his quality took a nosedive

>>4743436
You're thinking if Toyotaro, that's another AF.

I'll give you an honest answer, John K.

>>4745960
example of his older work from his blog in 2011

>>4745961

Another legit answer, Butch Hartman. I'm having a bit of a hard time trying to find his older works but you can tell that he made an extremely poor transition to digital art, his coloring is particularly awful.

>>4745968
Seems like he's noticeably better with traditional art