/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4721876

>>4721878
He just posted these on Facebook

How was he not a professional artist until 27?

>>4721876
like this

>>4721876
I was drawing stupid shit like naked girls and skulls.

>>4721876
I didn't started until 19, so idk

>>4721876
>>4721878
>>4721880
I don't wanna be that guy but I like this better than his current work.
Can someone translate?

>>4721876
>How did you draw at 17 yo?

>>4721876
I think this is one of the best things I did at 17. Got no better picture, though.

>>4721902
Maybe he has a hard time adapting to professional standards which imo makes sense if you think about how he likes drawing NSFW or other questionable stuff

apparently I didn't know how to take a photo without graphite shine

>>4721876
Not like that, that's for sure. I love this, though. I don't use FB anymore so thanks for sharing OP. Good inspiration.

>>4721876
I didn't

>>4721876
This is actually kind of depressing. He hasn’t really evolved much, maybe before he used reference and construction more but his style is essentially the same.

>>4721908
If that’s a self portrait please be my gf

>>4721880
cleaver in the butt

>>4722031
it's actually a portrait of my gf at the time

>>4721876
Is it just me or does it feel like Korean artists tend to learn the fundamentals a lot younger? Maybe a course in high school? You can clearly see he has a solid understanding of perspective that's been taught rather than 'winged'. I've seen a lot of talented 17 year olds in the past but rarely with strong fundies like his.

>>4722065
I saw an interview with KJG talking about how he used to compete with a friend to get this good.

Probably self taught. Koreans just have an autistic level of focus and determination and competitiveness. That’s basically their entire culture.

>>4722078
Man I wish I had that friend to genuinely compete with and push you higher. Mine resorted to tracing animu, what could've been...

>>4722030
I think you can only make a statement on how much you like it. People change, their art reflects that. Maybe he just wouldn't like drawing this today. If you know what he's doing here there are mistakes that he wouldn't do today. Things like hatching and some anatomy are a bit sloppy and he doesn't have a lot of economy but considering he was a kid when he drew this... comics are a beast of their own to learn, he does that, great character acting, realism and cartooning, gesture. I'm not a fanboy of KJG but he was already a complete artist by that age and it's not because of talent. You gotta know what the fuck you're doing to do this and there's no other way but mileage.

>>4722017
Very spooky and surreal, also kind of gives me that “depressed” feel many forms of horror media have
>>4721980
Soul, I like how he encapsulates the wigger species perfectly
>>4721944
I like the color scheme, I always pick dull or normal shit whenever I actually go that far
>>4722058
Kill yourself Chad

>>4722078
>Koreans just have an autistic level of focus and determination and competitiveness.
Good thing I'm not them, fuck that life of work and long live procastination.

>>4722058
Fuck you, Gert off my site

>>4722017
good shit
youre gonna make it, anon

>>4722078
If it's like the Chinese or Japanese, they get sent to atelier-like art schools as a kid

> talent totally isn't real guys
> it is just hard work!
> please ignore the teenagers who are better than many pros after only drawing seriously for a few years
>anyone can get good!!

>>4722243
Kids learn faster, they are sponges. Now go seeth because you couldn't exploit that for your wants and needs as an adult.

>>4722268

>>4722271

>>4722272

>>4722104
>>4722169
we dated for two months and then she broke up with me. i didn't get a new girlfriend ever since. it's been three years.
being a Chad™ sucks.

>>4722104
>>4722169
we dated for two months and then she broke up with me. she was my first and only girlfriend. it's been three years.
being a Chad™ sucks.

>>4721876
Glad I do art as a fun side hobby, I will probably never be this good.

>>4721876
>>4721878
>>4721880
you just posted it

>>4721876

Realistic portraits, still lifes and a metric ton of cartoons.

>>4722246
correction: smart kids are sponges. dumb kids don't have good retention, even when they try hard to learn.

Looks great, I thought he only drew soulless stuff.

>>4722314
>Lasting for 2 months.
Fuck off show off.

>>4722763
I think he sold his soul for the warped perspective no construction meme which is a shame because this stuff is way more appealing than what he does now.

Reminder not to concern yourself with the relative ages of people with skill.

Look at an image. Is that image outside of your skill level?
Improve until it isn't.

>No no no, you don't understand, I'm not going to live for ever!
Sure, at some point you will die, but what difference does that make? Just keep improving. Do you really think you don't have enough life left to become as skilled as Kim Jung Gi was at 17? How long do you think it took him to get that good? Do you think he started training seriously at 10? So are you saying you don't think you will be alive 7 years from now?
WORK HARDER

>>4721876
>How did you draw at 17 yo?

I did not draw when i was 17 so it's from when I was 14

>>4723114

>>4723118
This one is straight up shot from anime.
But I did use construction.

and 6 years later, havent improved since
thats what you get for drawing boxes all day

>>4723176
You're setting yourself up for failure if you only focus on practice exercises and have no goal in mind.
But all is not lost, make a finished piece with a subject you like and see how things go.

I was a furfag when i was 16, then i stopped drawing for a year and now i am back in this hellish hobby.

>>4723192
post recent

>>4723185
nah senpai, the boxes are pretty much end goal for me
welcome to architecture
btw thats a finished piece for the stuff we do
ofc there is painting too, ink stuff and lots of other shit, but for drawing thats it
although more classic landscapes and anime/comics are some hobby, im just not near the level i wish i were
dont have time to seriously practice, and when i do i only want to sleep
feels kinda bad

>>4723237
I am still garbage but at least i draw daily and enjoy it

>>4721902
In Korea/Japan that's average skill level for a 17 year old.

Is this a drawing?

>>4723268
Nah, it's shit.

>>4723285
Wrong, it's a painting!

>>4723250
Yeah, but better than your early art. You'll make it, yet, anon.

Google photos is great for finding old drawings, I've had it since 2014 and all I have to do is search "drawing" and bam. That's if you're okay with giving your drawings to skynet.

>>4722078
I used to live in Korea and there's a ton of art academies for the kids to go to after school while the parents work their 14-hour days.

Taekwondo, English, piano/violin, and art are the popular ones over there.

There's also a lot of academies for adults, as well to attend night classes or weekends for all sorts of shit.

>>4721876
That's frickin amazing, so much character, I wonder how uch reference he was using.

I was still doing studies from life.. pretty decent tho I guess.

This

>>4723250
looks decent. good luck anon

One of the last real drawings I did before I just totally stopped like 10+ years ago. Quite literally never used construction because stupid teenager brain didn't grasp it solo.

Feels good getting back into it.

>>4721876
Fuck, even Peter han isn't this good, and he's like in his 30's.

>>4726146
One more I guess

>>4721876
kentaro miura drew this when he was fucking ten, Bro's i'm starting to think the "asian genes" meme isn't just a meme...

>>4726159
How is this even possible? What about all the fundamentals and shit people are telling me to learn? Surely a 10 year old didn’t have a fucking clue about any of that

>>4726214
>>4726159
That panel is from Noa, which he drew when he was 19, the manga he drew in elementary school was never officially published.

>>4726159
This is from Noa which he made when he was 19 (still insanely impressive obviously)

https://mangadex.org/chapter/8924/40

There are no images of the manga he made when he was 10

I started drawing when I was 17...
Am I gmi?

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>>4726229
Ok, thanks for the correction. I feel a little better now.

This was near my 17th birthday

>>4721876
Basically like this.

bumpo bumpi

I'd rather not talk about it.

>>4721876
I'm 18 now so not much has changed

was in the middle of a manic episode with psychotic features. 11 years later, i no longer get manic episodes bc i no longer have insomnia. i miss the extreme drive to make stuff but god i do not miss being 17.

>>4727468
This is pretty cool. You must be really good by now.

>>4724506
Where are you from?

>>4725714
very nice, have anything current?

>>4723176
How do I get to that level?

i used to add a little bit more to this every day I was in the class

it's shit

>>4728764
Canada.

A year ago at 24. Jesus.

>>4729534
>that pose
Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door, the elf club's two blocks down.

>>4727468
You just posted this a couple months back. MODS

>>4721876
>>4721878
>>4721880
>talent isn't impor-

>>4731060
Was this really worth posting? What did this post add to the thread?

>>4731073
Save everyone's time by giving up, if they didn't have talent

>>4731085
Just how dumb are you?

>>4731085
You're that anon that tries to cut the competition on the drawing industry by crabbing.

>>4731095
I've this guy post before. Thinking that competition is better off defeating with NOT hardwork and skill but, telling others to quit? NGMI moment

>>4721902
because he's lying. Asians do this shit all the time man.

I remember in college I knew this Japanese girl studying English as long as I had been studying Japanese and her English was like... 100% perfect. Perfect American accent, knew all the slang. Even sounded California ish. Was easily able to make friends with all the Americans.

I was like wtf? I'm grinding so hard at this, why is she so good? And my friends would say oh she probably had an American boyfriend. And when I asked her she said she never did she just learned it here and there and watched TV shows and stuff.

Come to find out, no half her family lives in America and she lived here for like 8 years and went to international school in Tokyo for years.

"Yea no i just picked it up self taught here and there." That's what Kim said too. Oh I'm just self taught. I just pick it up here and there. Fucking liar. He probably had professional artist parents who trained him and sent him to professional teachers from a very young age, and then they just lie about it so they can pretend their family produced a genius.

>>4731554
and im not saying because that one girl i think this about all asians. that was one of many many many examples. I know white people do that sometimes but they will give you an indirect answer. they will play a word game or something so that technically they weren't lying, and they'll say like they must have misunderstood your question. Asians will straight up totally lie to you if they will benefit off it.

>>4731556
they have great genes for working hard and good visual sense, but their social genes are another story altogether...

>>4731857
its all about you and your immediately family getting ahead sociopathically at all and any cost

>>4731857
>Great genes for working hard
Thats simply not true. If the genes were there then they would have become the center of the world like the west has but instead the majority of Asia is consisting of backwards shithole nations and the only ones that are less shitty are the ones that were occupied by the west at one point.
Seeing a few asians in college or university working their butts off does not mean the rest are like that.

>>4721876
Not from 17 but JESUS

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FxoTwEdbbgQ

Uh...bros?

I drew like this

>>4729543
shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>4723240
Just think of the human form as boxes and other 3D solids
Bam, done

>>4733148
rip soul

>>4734332
Shut up faggot.

>>4721933
Agreed

seems really hard for me to imagine back then

>>4735660
now

>>4731554
>be me
>need easy college credit so take a language course I already know
>just another day
>smell something off
>turn around to see that weird guy from the back of class
>he demands to know how I'm doing so well
>it's not a hot day why is he so sweaty
>why is he panting like that
>he's a over 3 feet away why can I smell him from here
>too uncomfortable to make eye contact
>look down
>see bulge
>god what a freak
>I just want to leave
>"ha-ha I just picked things up here and there"
>turn around and quickly outpace him
>can still hear his panting
>can still smell him
>why

i drew this at 17

>>4721876
>>4721878
>>4721880
If this is really how he drew at 17, then he's def got worse. This is why fame is so damaging to creatives. Better to remain a nobody and aim for a comfy living from your art instead.

>>4721980
soulful as fuck, i was a coward who didn't think he could draw at 17

>>4733148
from sub beg to beg in just 5 years

>>4736429
Shut up faggot.

>>4736439
Pyw

>>4721902
Highly competitive market. Compulsory Korean military service. Needed day jobs. Lots of reasons

All my work from 17 years old got wiped from losing old sketchbooks and hard drives. This one's the oldest I could find at 21. I didn't take art seriously until a couple of years afterwards.

>>4722277
what does your art looks like now?

This was around 15 I think, one of the rare things I did without any reference. I basically stopped drawing for almost a decade after so I'm fucked.

>>4728760
So insomnia can drive people to draw twisted stuff? I struggled with insomnia really badly about 2 years ago and I never felt like drawing anything like this.

I was big into knights and vidya

>>4735701
>This narrative makes me uncomfortable so I will just project the silliest image I can on the person who said it and keep believing that all these celebrities never lie or embellish what they present on social media (nobody does after all amirite)
Dunno if you're the same faggot making inflammatory posts for (you)s or just delusional

Around 16/17, sadly dont have much older stuff.

>>4723306
nah, it's shit

oldest digital I still have, bit older than 18 when I made it

>>4726151
>>4726146
Gotta post when I see Rayman, especially such a well-drawn one. I too have been trying to get back into drawing after what feels like a decade of totally stopping, although I have nothing to show for it.

>>4722268
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>>4722277
checked, unironically soul, did you upload it somewhere ?

>>4739414
holy shit this is good, blog ?

>>4739708
Thank you.
I have no blog, not working in illustration field.
I am thinking about updating my webpage with drawings and paintings, but that would be a lot of work.

I think these are around the same time as the one before (maybe a bit later), theyre more how i work these days.

>>4721876

WHAT THE FUCK?

THIS MOTHERFUCKER RECENTLY SAID AT A WORKSHOP HE DIDNT START DRAWING UNTIL AROUND 25!

I think it was a proko video? Does anyone have the link?


These fucking artists lie so goddamn much i swear

>>4739337
soul

>>4734116
nice

>>4721876
I was 17 10 years ago...

>>4739708
>>4739414
Samefag

>>4722782
great post anon

>>4739663
i do hope you colored that and put that in an online portfolio

>>4739337
that's cool

>>4736153
I really like this anon. Blog?

I was the worst, personality wise, but I do miss how much I enjoyed drawing.

>>4735660
>>4735665
femanon...

>>4744952
reee i'm not I just like cute girls why does this keep happening

>>4735665
Don't worry, you still have the mind of a middleschooler.

>>4731085
you first

>How did you draw at 17 yo?

>>4721876
>>4721878
>>4721880
Reminder that 17 in Korea means 16 on the rest of the world

>>4731554
This guy learned Japanese purely from self-study and watching TV, and he speaks it better than some natives even:

https://youtu.be/fhaovFrXnjE

TV and books are the best way to learn. There’s plenty of people who move foreign countries and even after several years still can’t speak at an advanced level, why? Because once they know enough for their day-to-day, they get complacent.

tl;dr - your friend likely wasn’t lying about picking up the language from watching TV. Language is acquired through immersion, not learned.

>>4747173
Nice filename, Tayler

>>4731857
>but their social genes are another story altogether...
You’ve never set foot in an Asian country my dude. You’re completely wrong. Also, there’s plenty of lazy Asians, like anywhere else.

>>4747195
>Come to find out, no half her family lives in America and she lived here for like 8 years and went to international school in Tokyo for years.

Did you skip that?

>>4747195
I learned English completely from here and youtube

>>4747200
thanks friend

>>4747209
No, I didn’t. I specifically addressed that living in a foreign country doesn’t magically endow you with the language skills. Same for attending “international schools.” The real improvement in fact would come from having to study certain topics in your second language, like math, history, science, etc... again, cause you're getting constant immersive exposure to the language through study. Language learning require comprehensible input. That’s all. Lucky for you, everything she did to learn English, you can do to learn Japanese or whatever. Just read a lot and watch a lot of TV. It’s that easy. You haven’t been making progress simply because your study methods are wrong and this ineffective. 1000 hours of drilling grammar and vocab is essentially 1000 hours of wasted time. The brain doesn’t learn languages that way.

I believe these are around from when I was 17. They're low quality because i had to pull them off Instagram.

>>4747229
Do you still draw anime, nile?

>>4747339
nah, never