/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

where can i find some good chink speedpaints? i want to see how they work

>>4718482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SotSKy2WoMk&list=PLrzyv8xNsjI-AIX0IxzZkwN5lK-_NXOIp

So grinding lines is more than a meme ...

clip studio and photoshop both have cool features they other lacks. which one would you choose and why?

>>4718590
I have both.

/subthread

>>4718544
?

>Let's all become premium members of adult movie sites!
KEK

>>4718610
sounds like youre retarded and have terrible workflow. subthread reopened because your opinion is worthless in that case.

>>4718634
You're just mad that I have a billion layers spread out between 2 apps for just 1 artwork :^)

>>4718615
Watch the video in the op.

>>4718630
>not nip artist
Shit advice

Came across akihito yoshitomi recently, his workflow is mesmerizing.

Anons, would you a bunny cunny?

>>4719058

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmKFuJ3bh74

>>4718480
I tried to copy as I saw and adjusted for the head tilt but trying to copy the scarf was a lost cause

>>4718705
retard

>>4718480
Why is the pinky finger twice as big as the index finger?

>>4718480
Where's the Discord?
Do the people there make good art?

>>4719635
>discord
you will NEVER pass as a female. you will never be female. you are male.

>over $700 per month on patreon

>>4719893
I can't.

>>4719893

>>4719893
And they said you wouldn't make it copying anime tutorials.

Artist of the OP? Reverse image searching only brings up the character.

is there any actual good online courses to draw anime?

>>4719893
ugly af
>Normie coom "artist", dumps all of his time into the rendering

>>4718480

>>4720029
>seething because its porn and because he didn't take the render pill
cope
normalfags love that shit and at the end of the day, they're going to make up your primary audience

Alright anons, how'd I do?

>>4720936
Excessive pillow shading, no sense of form or hard edges. Stop copying anime.

>>4720938
>pillow shading
Crabs always come up with autistic terms

>>4721022
Retard always comes up even more retarded.

>>4720938
>stop copying anime
>on an anime style

What did he mean by this

>>4718590
csp, photoshop is madly bloated

link me videos of people drawing anime, preferably not sped up but it's fine if they are.

hmmm

>>4720936
Looks cute I like it. I'm no doctor but that hand seems pretty fucked.

After copying anime images for a while what's the next step? Do I go for trying to make my own poses next or something else?
I think I kinda skipped a lot just going to copying images from the start?

Sup anons, just wondering, would you a horribly disfigured girl?

How far until you say "Nah, I'm good"? Just trying to see how far I can get while still having people say "Yeah I'd tap that"

.

>>4722187
I love you.

If you haven't downloaded the shit from mangamaterial's twitter now's a good time, another snowflake's bitching at the owner.
Again

>>4722405
Great, what are they bitching about now. "Oh no my artstyle how dare you assault me with your tutorials on how to get gud"

What is the basic anime head, how do you construct it?

>>4722580
>>4722580
Unironically loomis and hampton

>>4719893
Is rendering that easy to learn?

>>4722497
something about skull diversity or some shit. The other guy posted the negro skull meme from loomies

>>4719893
>$700 bucks/month
>a shitty apartment and instant ramen meals

He deserves it

>>4719419
you suck at the simplest things, my man

>>4718480
>>oh boy with us channers together were gonna be the bestest weeb doodlers on the netz!

How to render like this?

>>4722838
Sell your soul to the devil

>>4718480

>>4723067
all the souls of ngmis here combined won't get you a peanut.

What do you guys practice alongside copying and recreating stuff you like?
Also, where do you usually get your references from?

>>4723401
I did lots of time gathering 1500 pics from gelbooru which i fuck with. This is my drawing folder which i take photos which i may not like as a whole but have little bits that i do, then i find simple lots of different poses of photos which i dont think are that amazing. I then use those poses for reference while bringing together parts i like from other photos. Hopefully it helps me hone my style and skills while progressing. (it will)

Do you guys see any reason not to use Krita for drawing anime? It's not just about the money, I highly prefer OpenSource over proprietary. Also I really really hate Adobe and would never use one of their products. Clip Studio seems nice, but not sure if it offers anything over Krita and is closed source of course.

What would you guys do to improve this piece? I need some help

Hey this probably doesn't belong here but I didn't feel like making a thread for a very simple question: What are some font alternatives for Anime Ace? It's fucking everywhere and it looks pretty boring.

>>4718630
Listen to trap chads instead.

First time poster, please be gentle. Trying to get comfortable with drawing the rest of the body. It's not going that well.

>>4722656
This type of rendering is. It’s just the basic anime porn rendering you would see in most anime coom art.

>see Michael Hampton videos
>think he is old as fuck like Vilppu and Huston
>actually he is a pretty chill guy
>he watches south park
>he does demonstrations using video game characters
>he even mentioned anime during proportions

absolutely based

>>4725414
Yeah he's cool. Kirk Shinmoto also teaches analytical figure drawing and also draws anime. Ron Lemen on the other hand, despises anime.

>>4725414
LE PROTEIN EBBAH

>>4725414
Did you also try Proko? Would you recommend Hampton over him?

>>4722724
Implying it's not a side gig

>>4725475
watch both
Proko videos about anatomy are very good because of the 3d models.
I'm watching Hampton and this is giving me a much clearer idea of what I read in his book, I watched all of Vilppu's videos and Hampton is heavily influenced by him, he mentions it himself. But his approach is much less abstract than Vilppu’s, so I’m having a better time.

HOW TO GET GOOD LINEART IN CSP
EVERYTHING I DO LOOKS LIKE SHIT HOLY FUCKKKK

>>4725516
Feel the form

>>4725504
Ok I will give it a shot. I have a bit of a hard time with Vilppu, he seems very knowledgeable, but I have a bit a hard time following him, because his sketches are not always very precise and that makes it a bit hard to figure out. Also the general style and audio / video quality of the course makes it quite painful.
Is this last of us thing a joke, or is Hampton really using this tranny as a reference? I think this would be a bit problematic for me to watch.

>>4725516
>CSP
use stabilizer, it seems to be pretty advanced in CSP. Question is, can Krita do the same?

>>4725525
Yea, but it’s a lot worse.

>>4725525
>>4725518
what brush do I use?
all the defaults look like shit for lineart
and i tried making a hard round like in photoshop and it still sucks

>>4725527
>what brush do I use?

>>4725522
it's real
gesture videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSzB3ESpfE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApyH98uufXg

tranny video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7bhOaczcZs

check the rest of his course in the video thread

>>4725522
>Is this last of us thing a joke, or is Hampton really using this tranny as a reference? I think this would be a bit problematic for me to watch.
What a stupid reason. Enjoy ngmi

>>4725530
ok whats a good brush for lineart like this
i cant tell if its the brush or post processing that makes it look ever so slightly rough

>>4725562
Really simple pencil brush probably. You could make one in whatever program by plugging in some TV static into the texture and fiddling with a couple settings. Set it to have a wide Taper so you can push and release to that nice mid line expression.

Also post processing. lot of sharpening and noise from look of it. Really subtle chromatic aberration. Like one pixel worth and then lower the opacity of that layer so it's not as apparent. And then just go to town on it with Grey Color dodge and a big soft round brush.

>>4725533
first video a nigger, second video a chink, third video a white man with a vagina. Sorry but this is simply too diverse and gay for my taste. Even if the videos are good, I think I would get PTSD from these videos.

>>4725585
>second video a chink
so why do you want to draw chink cartoons?
unironically ngmi, zoomer

>>4725590
nips are not chinks and are honorary white. Also my problem is not mainly the race, but more the gender. I want to draw cute girls or at least men who pretend to be girls.

Also with these things the problem often isn't the thing itself, but the intention of the person doing it. He clearly has a preference to draw diverse faggotry, so why would I want to learn from somebody who clearly has a completely different taste and focus than myself. He probably knows way more about how to draw big black cocks, than drawing the titts and vago. So if you are a furry artist, this guy might be helpful. But if you want to draw curvy girls, you will be simply better of with mikeymegamega.

>>4725626
>mikeymegamega
lol

>>4725626
literally ngmi lol
i can already imagine what your work looks like so i won't even ask you to pyw

>>4725626
first person I see shitting on hampton, the guy is literally the most recommended after loomis here

>>4725626
Dude they are just fucking figures. Why do you have to make everything about race just fucking draw.

>>4725626
I got news for you pal. Mikeymegamega learned from Hampton and shills his book in the description of every youtube video he makes. He's also made tons of videos just practicing with the book. If you can't even transfer what you've learned from these body types you mentioned to an animu girl, then you're a brainlet and ngmi.

>>4725522
What >>4725537 NGMI if something like that triggers you

Dumb question, Why nobody ever use bucket tool for coloring instead of using brushes?

It's much faster and easier that way

>>4725652
they are male figures, only fags draw male figures. God luck drawing cocks you fag.

>>4725585
The first two are at least natural, but fuck using a tranny. It's like having butt sex to broaden your horizon then bragging about your bleeding asshole.

>>4725626
Whiteys can’t draw anime only nips can, retard.

What went wrong here, /asg/?

>>4725626
ngmi lmao not even gonna ask you to pyw

>>4725846
Ugly soft brush shading and weird proportions.

>>4724728
Make it not look like Disney.

>>4725850
Hey I only just started ok and I know I have much to learn. It's candace owens btw.

Serious question though. Is the reason those fags mostly focus on male bodies, because the muscles are easier to see? So is drawing muscular naked guys necessary to finally draw perfectly curved anime waifus? I mean I would kind of understand, but it's just not fun to draw dudes. Can't I focus on very muscular women or something?

>>4725846
the head is a bit distorted and I think the hair on the left side looks a bit unnatural. Also something about the cloth around the breasts seems a bit strange. Overall it's pretty good though.

>>4725953
>mouthanus
I have this problem, I cant draw women. Those who I draw will look like CHAD BUFFED EBBAH LE SPACE MARINE GACHIMUCHI EDITION, not the thicc animu girls

>>4725846
near pedo

>>4724728
At your current level, I think it's just better to move on and do better on the next drawing. Though what I'm saying is not meant to discourage you, but to convince you to use your time more efficiently, since your drawing seems to be finished already.
As for things to improve, I think anatomy would be the main issue. The face feels too 2-dimensional, and the eyes, nose and mouth don't seem to have any volume at all, even if you did add some shadow on the eyes. Speaking of shadows, the shading is way too soft to be able to convey volume. It feels like you didn't really know where to put them, and decided to add them in vague areas where you think they would most likely appear. Going back to the anatomy: the chest area is a bit fucked. From the lines, I can't tell where the clavicle ends and where the manubrium starts. As to the hands, the fingers are WAY too long. For reference, the length of a middle finger should roughly be the same length as the palm of a hand. Now as to what's happening in the drawing, I'm not really sure. Is that like a cover page? Because otherwise it feels a bit aimless. But that's my personal opinion. What I do like though, is the design, I think it does the job.

Overall, the biggest advice I could give you is to draw a LOT from reference, since that's how you're going to notice what's wrong with your anatomy. Also try to flip your canvas often. By doing this, it gives you a fresh new perspective on your piece, and you instantly see if something doesn't look right. For example, I noticed by flipping the canvas that one eye is too low compared to the other.

Hope my wall of text was useful!

>>4725963
>mouthanus
Well she is black, I experimented a little also with the nose. But it's certainly not where I want it to be. I'm trying quantity over quality atm. and just drawing during meetings while remote working. Trying to convert real women I find on 4chan into anime.

I hope you can get over the buffed girls, maybe try to draw pretty curvy women like pic related first. It's also not my favorite body type, but it's quite fun and in anime curves are often quite exaggerated.

>>4725953
If you just started, I would suggest you read the sticky and its ressources, and maybe go to the /beg/ threads for guidance.

help

>>4725960
Thanks, I'll keep studying forms, proportions, and perspective.
>>4725890
Do you have any tips for when to use hard edges instead of soft edges when shading? An artist I like uses soft shading a lot.

>>4725846
Probably the closest thing that I wanted to save before I realized it's from /asg/ good work nonetheless.

>>4726032
Well first I would add some highlight to eyes and hair. That will certainly already improve it a lot. Then you can certainly improve a lot on shadows in general, they are not visible enough. And after all that is done you might consider doing something with your lines. I think with you arms for example you should do the opposite. Thicker on the bottom, thinner on top. Also the chin looks a bit harsh, maybe use a thinner and or softer line, not sure. But it's not bad at all. I'm sure just adding some highlight will improve it a lot.

>>4726085
Get better taste, dipshit.

>>4726107
Seethe more, Roastie cunt.

>>4726112
Dilate

>>4726114
Labiaplasty.

>>4725953
>this is the guy calling you racist words on 4channel
hahahahahahhaha oh my god

>>4725626
mikeymegamega literally got caught referencing BLACKED for his drawings on fucking live stream

>>4726368
Explain

Can I skip anatomy and just go for figure directly for anime? I don't intend on drawing skeletors for the moment.

>>4726368
hot

>>4726375
You are an idiot.

>>4726373
there is nothing to explain

>>4725626
you mentioned proko but he also uses a lot of bara niggers as models

>also, the absolute state of the /pol/tards
he prefers to deny knowledge instead of using it to draw his own nazi animu girls

>>4726375
>Can I skip anatomy
Yes
>figure directly
Yes
KEK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thh4JXnVtxM

>>4726383
HAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT

I can draw a basic anime head that looks "ok" by applying proper head construction techniques. But I don't understand how to push it further to "perfect" level. I have difficulty seeing what is exactly is wrong past a certain point. Any suggestions on how to proceed?

I'm thinking maybe stop focusing on trying to perfect it now and let it intuitively improve over time.

>>4726383
kek
based

>>4725626
Man this general is great. Don't know why people shit on it so hard. All the funny lunatics swarm these threads.

>>4726079
If an object that blocks the light is close to the shaded form then the shadow is hard. That's why hair shadows are hair shaped. And also the shape of the form matters. Leg is usually soft shaded since it is a cylinder. I would suggest you to look at well rendered pieces or just photos and think about what makes a certain shadow look the way it looks.

>>4726674
Thanks man, I'll see what I can learn.

how do I achieve lineArt like this? is this a CPS default brush?

>>4726673

>>4726633
>Any suggestions on how to proceed?
pyw

>>4726725
Vector layers.

>>4726909
+ thickness modifier tool

>>4726725
looks like some custom watercolour brush
you can also try to sculpt the wrong lines with the eraser
something like this
https://youtu.be/UdVFKQrB0Aw?t=4848

>>4725626
>>4725953
the absolute state of /asg/. I love it here

>>4726963
no, pyw

>>4726932
Nice Mio Sakamoto, I need to get better so I can draw the Witches.

>>4726985
ok.

>>4726909
What on earth... That is not vector art.

>>4726725
Semi-hard round brush with pressure sensitivity on opacity and size, and cleaning up the sketch with eraser.

>>4718705
>kosuke haruhito
>non nip
must be bait

>>4727018
damn you cant be serious anon.

>>4726932
Damn, I really want lines like those.

>>4727167
Post work

>>4718480
damn lighting is hard.

>>4727181
Anon, her waist region is fucked up

>>4727208
Good job

>>4727181
>Rendering: 8
>Anatomy: 1
top ke, nice face though

>>4727181
This proves that rendering is easier than anatomy.

>>4727313
>>4727306
>>4727194
>muh anatomy
>Can't even articulate as to what exactly is wrong
>waist region is fucked up
You niggers are useless, it looks just fine and she doesn't have to have thunderthigs at this point it is purely subjective and braindead coomer such as the likes of you have no merit.

>>4727323
Seeth more you fucking retard

>>4725626
>>4722412

>>4727336
He's right though. Your critique is useless.

>>4727181
I really tried to save it bro, I did what I could with mesh transformation
here are some things I noticed

I understand and it’s good to use box shapes for the ribcage, but you ignored the angle, her ribcage is literally perpendicular with the floor, this left the torso stiff and without rhythm.
the legs are not connected with the pelvis, this gives the impression that muscles like tensor fascia lata and quads are missing in her left leg, and the rectus abdominis/external oblique strangely projected forward
study the muscles that connect in the greater trochanter, femur and pelvis

this also gave the feeling that the torso was very long, but not because of the proportion of the head but because of the distance between the tenth rib and the pelvis

the navel also needs to be better positioned, but I couldn't fix it without ruining the grainy texture.
Overall I liked it, but as it's already finished I think it's not worth fixing and it's better to move on to another drawing

I would recommend you to read Hampton, but that would trigger some retarded

>>4727181
there are some problems with the lower region that others have pointed out, but other than that this looks good as fuck, anon, nice work

>>4727387
Congratulations, you now managed to actually make it look bad. There was nothing wrong with the original.

>>4727463
say why it's bad and make a redline of the original pelvis, otherwise take your /beg/ass out of here

>>4727463
>>4727358
>>4727323
the lack of fundies is tangible here, it's fucking hilarious
>>4727387
looks a lot better, nice job anon
>>4727181
it looks good, you already render nice, my recomendation is to study more construction and anatomy i think that's the major flaws of your drawing but overall nice job anon

>>4727473
No need to redline, as it was said the original had no issues. That other "redline" essentially bloated up the forms and mass and didn't "correct" shit besides his appetite for a bigger ass.

>>4727481
>No need to redline
You mean you can't do it
if you see that figure in profile you will see the bottom of the torso is completely misaligned with the top, and the leg doesn’t connect with the bone structure of the pelvis
but I think it's too much for you to see this

>>4727181
Nigel is that u

I just downloaded CSP yesterday.
Still experimenting it though
Plus no Hand Knowledge kek

>>4723125
remove the tits and this'll be hot as fuck

>>4727387
Where/how did you learn how to draw faces? It looks so pretty

>>4720029
>>4722656
>implying this has anything to do with actual rendering

>>4727306
>>4727313
>"rendering"

lol what

WHERE DO YOU GUYS LEARN HOW TO PROPORTION THE HEAD PROPERLY
MY EYES AND CHIN LOOKS OFF EVERY FUCKING TIME
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

I dont know how to make my shit look flowy in digital, all my stuff is stiff and rigid as fuck. What brushes do you use to do this stuff? There's so many different styles I want to try but I'm garbage and still cant construct from imagination. In fact I can't even copy from reference. Even books didnt make sense. I've been plateaued at this level for like a year since I started drawing.

>>4728070
#!%20pb4VTJ6L!SH0dL3-vBUCyyA_V13-vodDGUvOZ5L1pImHTXrEuqcs

does anyone have a roadplan if the end goal is drawing anime?
I'm not sure if the books from sticky will help

>>4728086
Honest question, how much time do you spend drawing every day?

>>4728116
Sometimes it's impossible for me to draw on a given day, but usually 3-4 hours a day, and much longer on weekends. If it weren't for having finished a degree, I'd say I was a fucking retard. Hell, I'm probably a fucking retard anyway tbqh

>>4728098
>This URL is corrupt or deformed. The link you are trying to access does not exist.

>>4718480
how to improve my dog girl?

>>4728103
Just draw. Your favorite anime artists never spent any time looking at dumb books.

>>4728178
https://mega.nz/#!%20pb4VTJ6L!SH0dL3-vBUCyyA_V13-vodDGUvOZ5L1pImHTXrEuqcs
?

>>4728195
Thanks.

>>4728186
put another tail on her as a butt plug

Why are there so many figure drawing courses? Should I just spend hours and hours on each to see which one clicks best?

>>4728382
ye

>>4728382
i don't know if you need to spend hours but you will know when you connect with a teacher

I read through the pastebin, but does anyone know what might be the best brushes in CSP to emulate the general anime style, and perhaps any brush sets that might contain what I’m looking for? I suppose I’ll give an example of approximately what I’m looking for. It’s not very complicated line art or anything. Apologies if I didn’t read thoroughly enough

>>4724759
Is drawing on the right side of the brain that useful? or is it something other books explain.

>>4728835
If you live in the 90s, yes
>>4707139

>>4725414
>not old enough to impart real wisdom
>watches gay cartoons
>plays gay video games
>anime
thanks for the warning anon

what CSP brushes and layer modes should I use to achieve this style?

>>4729040
Normal, and a hard round brush.

>>4725702
If something like that triggers you accept your faith and fuck off to whatever safe space you call home

wow
https://sessa.me/@atasom
https://twitter.com/atasom/media

>csp brushes
STFU already

>>4729488
which brush is that?

>>4728070
unironically l00mis

ive heard huston has a good course too but i haven't gone through it

>>4727181
how do i make lighting and drawing gains, Phreckles-senpai?

>>4729725
By leaving a shitty studio with mediocre artists so you stop getting bad advice from the said mediocre artists

>>4722262
.............you're asking 4chan.
Anons would fuck a hole in the ground if you asked them if they would.

>>4722660
>>4722497
>>4722405
qrd with pictures? I wish Hews would BTFO them again

>>4729690
what brush is this?

Thoughts?

>>4729928
study anatomy, and use a reference photo of a similar pose if you aren't

>>4729940
What's wrong with the anatomy?

>>4729951
The foot is flat

>>4729955
I see what you mean, it definitely looks off, but I can't exactly place why. Feet are one thing I feel like I just intuitively know because, well, I'm a massive footfag and I have like 20+ years worth of a mental visual foot library from looking at so many. Here I drew really basic feet from 3 different views, then combined the info into what I drew in my pic. As far as my knowledge goes it should be right, but still somehow it feels like it's wrong.

>>4730019
The bottom right implies the depth of the (our) right side, your previous drawing lacks the hatching this one has. And the previous one also lacked some volume on the whole toes part but this one has it.

>>4730028
So you think it's right now? I actually reworked it slightly right after posting the first one. Not having the side plane of the foot properly shown was definitely part of it, but it still doesn't feel 100% to me. Maybe I'll have to go find some "inspiration" to really hammer it in.

>>4730035
Nah, looks better but not right, the barebones construction looks like enough, more or less, but it fails to help visualize how the sole works, and then placing the fat pads becomes another issue on top of it. Sorry for the shitty redline, my eyes are burning but I feel no desire to sleep.

GRAY SKETCH KUN PLEASE COME BACK WE DIDNT MEAN THE MEAN WORDS

First fan art of my drawing career(hobby probably) kek
also day 3 of using Csp

>>4730411
Just wondering, what did you use before. I'm still mostly doing pencil drawing from hand, but also use some Krita here and there. I'm thinking about switching to CSP, but not really sure what the benefits would be. I guess mostly the cool vector tools and the more intelligent fill tool. But do you think anything major I should be aware of?

Why you should leave /asg/

>>4719419
is being shit on for no reason by >>4722745

>>4722838
is not answered, proving that no capable person around to help you learn or improve.

>>4720280
>>4722294
>>4725217
>>4727680
>>4728354
is ignored

And most of the time it's crabs arguing how to draw better, while not drawing at all.

>>4730670
Yeah, I don't know why decent artists bother coming here. They all should man up and go to /alt/ where they belong. There's nothing to gain by posting on /beg/2.0 anime edition

>>4730676
/alt/ is the saving grace of this board, but that general is getting worse as time goes on(pedofags/coomers vs moral fags arugments) bringing in the autism that /asg/ created will just kill /alt/.

>>4730685
The retards with arguments are always beginners or people that don't draw but think they know what they're talking about. That's why you get so many of them here.

>>4730670
>>4730676
We'll tell you why, because the shit you fags post for the most part is laregly unfinished, halfassed, you ask stupid questions you already know the answer to but refuse it and shop around for what you want to hear which is some magical tutorial that will give you a short cut bypassing fundies or simply put you're just not worth the time and effort analyzing, deducing and offering valid critique because it would be thrown to the way side unless you receive a critique from some Nip writing in moon runes.

>>4730731
die mikufag

>>4730736
but he's not wrong whether he's mikufag or not

>>4730736
You just proved his point...

I understand the frustration. The good ones left /asg/ so there nothing left but beginners wanting feedback from better artists

>>4730741
Maybe if someone applied themselves and posted a completed piece their chances of receiving feedback will undoubtedly increase if there was effort behind the work whether they're shitted on or complimented feedback is still feedback.

https://twitter.com/kyow_no/status/1283807778843160577
Why isn't he using construction? You lied to me /asg/

>>4730793
Can you save the gif or whatever it is ans post it here? Not going to that cesspool.

>>4730796
dude is just a link chill out

>>4730793
the construction is all made up in his head

>>4729928

>>4718480
animation clip

>>4730904
my man, can you share me the link where you learned csp animation?

>>4730793
Years of experience would lead to that you fucking brainlet. No wonder /asg/ is treated like a joke, because asshats like you can’t understand basic concepts.

>>4730911
just practice dude, i used to use ps

>>4730220
shut the fuck up faggot i hope he killed himself

>>4730918
Don't bother trying to explain motorskills to these retards, they're the picture perfect living example of that dog in the comic wanting to improve without work.

>>4730670
Sorry i do't browes 4chan 24-7 but post your art or discord and I'll give my crit to help you improve

>>4730527
When I started I only used pencil and paper, but I had a drawing tablet(Huion680tf) that I bought which was too big for osu, which the charging cable was lost.
I stopped using it and played vidya for a long time, I learnt Photoshop by making my own osu skin.

>But do you think anything major I should be aware of?
I think it's a software you grow from it, I'm quite satisfied but can't really point it out since I'm still a /beg/.
But so far so good though

My first day is pic related.

>>4730948
focus on construction man

Also >>4730527 this is me >>4727680

>>4730975
That was a just for fun sketch.
But I will, thanks anon!

>>4730998
no probs mate i do the same

>>4731002
why don't you draw the dicks?

>>4718480
Could this be considered anime or is it not stylized enough? I'm not going to pretend I could draw anatomically realistic people from imagination and I'm just toning it down. No this is just how I draw when I try to draw people.

>>4731264
Not anime

>>4729899
it's called a pencil anon

>>4729899
>>4731278
hahahahaha, fucking zoomers

>>4731286
hahahahaha, fucking boomer
:^)

>>4731264
You are on the right track

>>4731369
thanks anon

>>4730748
>Maybe if someone applied themselves and posted a completed piece
I already know the response. Polished turd. Not everyone can make finished pieces yet (although they should still try.) Plenty of inked stuff. which is enough for a critique, is posted with little response or the standard derogatory replies.

how would starting an account with intentionally bad work go? i can post daily too since they dont take that long.

>>4726383
that's embarrassing, I wouldn't be able to bounce back from this

>>4730670
as soon as u realize the amount of time spent posting on /ic/ is inversely related to time spent drawing a lot of things become clear

>>4724728
too many soft edges
poorly defined forms
head doesn't seem to have any major planes the features rest on, see pic rel. for major facial planes, proportions, and construction. look at hampton and also at asaro heads.
a lot of the anatomy you added here like the mastoid, trapezius, clavicle, etc. are superficial 2d lines rather than showing the underlying 3d forms. this is made worse by the tattoos not wrapping around anything.
you NEED to be thinking in 3D. Look at Vagabond or Sun-Ken Rock for examples of extremely juicy detailed anime with well defined planes and anatomy. good luck.

>>4725846
too many soft edges
poorly defined planes and forms
too much symmetry
lots of awkward stilted or wrong anatomy
not a bad start as far as things go

>>4725953
you're too early to worry about drawing human beings
this is the stage where an art instructor would tell you to draw a water bottle or a tissue box

>>4728070
hampton

Am I doin it boys

>>4731826
I like how you put that puff of cloud in the way of an important landmark for her wrist and hiding the other hand completely. You're going places, kid.

>>4731849

Cmon now, you think that I did the wrist like that because despite everything else in the drawing THAT was fucking me up?

>>4731864
Stop hiding hands nigger.

How do I stop getting the urge to bash my head in when drawing

>>4731724
I'm doing it right now, it feels like you can track your progression. But I feel like I'm still getting filtered by the system though

>>4731724
Its one of the better decisions I made. Having my stuff publicly on display motivated me to make better quality drawings. Plus its nice looking back and seeing how things have improved and changed.

>>4731865
Kek, look at this jelous retard.

>>4731826
Keep focusing on your strengths for final illustrations and study your weaknesses on your sketches. Good job anon, I really enjoyed how clean the lines are.

I think the hair could look more three-dimensional, though.

>>4731906

Yeah maybe better line weight would help the hair

>>4731906
Why not provide something constructive instead of sucking his dick and provide an ambiguous reply? Telling him to focus on strength and study his weaknesses without telling him what exactly his strength and weaknesses are is moot.

>>4725414
>south park
dropped

>>4731927

This >>4731864 retard already told him what to improve on, and I'm training myself to be involuntary nice, so to me it's more desirable to suck dick than to be a dick. Also you should know perfectly what your strengths and weaknesses are if you have a minimum mileage in art

>>4718480
Just finished this a couple hours ago

How fucked do the proportions look? Is the rendering too flat?

>>4731927

>>4731849 This retard already told him what to improve on, and I'm training myself to be involuntary nice, so to me it's more desirable to suck dick than to be a dick. Also you should know perfectly what your strengths and weaknesses are if you have a minimum mileage in art

how can i practice anime heads/faces? likewise, eyes.

this is the stuff i have so much trouble with.

>>4732002
>Chromatic aberration
It is a piece of eyecancer is what it is.

>>4732002
Arm follows other perspective than the leg/hand do, and I think her torso would also twist a bit more to reach that far. The rendering on the body's fine, but either there's another light source or the whole background was an afterthought, and pls don't abuse the chromatic aberration

>>4732031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ufz75UvHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egCx3dgGYDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovSAXB2NHqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z--GtzFU2UU
Understanding and Painting the Head – Marco Bucci

>>4732031
If you're asking that question chances are you need Loomis and mileage. I could do this in a couple minutes thanks to that

>>4732038
Holy shit, I did the fingers without considering the rest of the hand and you're absolutely right hahaha. I hope it's not immediately noticeable, though

And yes, it's my first time using chromatic aberration and I thought that if I masked the face, cleavage and feet from the filter (the attention points) I could get away with a strong effect... guess not

Thanks for the feedback anon

>>4732002
generic yoga wear, generic pose, generic demon face, only saving grace is rendering of the chest

>>4732002
I think your foreshortening is wrong. I tried to fix it but I am also retarded and don't know if mine is right either. One thing I do know, though, is that you should make her foot/feet look more exciting. This is obviously footfag art but both her feet just look kinda boring imo. I also can't tell if you're going for stylized anime feet or the somewhat-realistic-feet-on-anime-girl-body thing. Yours are kinda in between, the toes look more on the realistic side with the detail, but then that little bump on her ankles is nonexistent and the general shape of her feet seems a little more cartoony. I think this pose in particular would look a little better if her toes were more spread/flexing or if her foot was pointed more instead of just being flat.

>>4732051
So... This is the power of Loomis...
Whoa....

>>4732161
Your redlines are wrong what the fuck I'm rolling on the fucking floor

>>4732141
Thank you for so much insight into my piece anon, you're the type of person that makes this board great!

I tried to make the right foot more dynamic, but sadly that is as hard as I could push the pose with my current visual library. That's something to write down and study later. Also I just noticed that I forgot the bump of the ankles, how sad is that

>>4732199
>but sadly that is as hard as I could push the pose with my current visual library.
Well there's an easy way to fix that, watch a lot of foot pov porn, and it wouldn't hurt to maybe watch a few videos on foot anatomy. I learned a lot from Vilppu's anatomy lecture on feet, how they connect to the legs, where and how the pads of the foot connect etc.

>>4731724
I actually like "bad" artwork. I heard stories about how there used to be charmingly "bad" drawings on the "new" section of Deviantart back in the day, but can't find them anymore.

>>4726383
Streamable video with audio please

>>4732161
bait

>>4732002
This reference is closest thing I could find. Fucking weights right in the way and her arm hiding fat rolls, but its better than nothing.

>>4732199
>redlines are wrong
LOL, i'm just drawing a line from the top of the eye to the top of the eye
and another from the bottom of the eye to the bottom of the eye.
If you are doing it correctly, the line should be tilting roughly at the same angle.

It's funny to see that your loomis failed you so hard and you can't even admit that.
Ignoring loomis or not, the perspective is already wrong seeing how your eyes have the same size.
Please go grind more fundamentals before you try to "teach" (But actually not) others.

>>4732276
quality crabposting.

I think I'm starting to get the proportions of the head and features
This messy and light sketch took me 10 minutes because I had to measure and redraw the eyes, lol. I just kinda eyeball (no pun intended) the placement of the eyes right below the line which cuts the face in two halfs. What do you think, bros? Am I on the right path? All I can say is that my current drawings look a lot better than my old ones.

I wish this general was more active. I think a lot of posters have moved to the /asg/ discord, which is kinda sad.

Did this 2 months ago

>>4732667
versus finished this, this afternoon.
So am I killing myself or nah

Save /asg/

how do you people just draw? i can't formulate how things are supposed to go in my head to even draw something that will look bad

>>4725414
he browses 4chan too and he's posted on /ic/ under the given name, 'teal' or 'simon' as he calls himself. the handwriting is a dead give away, and the skill/construction method holds up.

here's a twink i did lately lads

>>4732807
Do thumbnailing and use references. Don’t get caught up trying to think of how you want the drawing to be and end up not drawing at all
Basically
Just draw dude

>>4732889
>twink
>enfant.png

>>4731792
Thanks fren

Wanna kms. Looked a bit better before the awful inking.

How do I trace a better /asg/?

>>4733517
By subscribing to Sakimichan's patreon and watching her how to draw videos and studying from her tutorials. Also remember to like and subscribe.

>>4733444
show us how it looked before inking then

>>4733560

>>4732310
Well that's some dedication into finding a good reference

>>4732207
I think I can still add more structure to the foot, but I hope at least drew a good silhouette

>>4733606
Is this meant to be a view from directly below, as in looking through a glass floor? That's sorta how it reads at the moment, like it's being pushes flat against a surface. Pretty good construction, though one small nitpick, her toes seem out of proportion. I'm just going by sight but it looks like her big toe is the right size but the other toes are all slightly too big. My usual rule is that the big toe is roughly the width of the next two toes put together(give or take some depending on the shape of the big toe). Just so you know I'm not totally full of shit I slapped together some examples. All three of these are different girls but they all roughly follow that rule, some more than others.
Oh, and her eyes are two different sizes(unsure if intentional) and her ear is hanging really low on her head.

>>4732002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaG-cBidCBw

>>4733582
always flip as you draw, it will help to reveal issues like this

>>4734142
Thanks

>>4734144
oh, specifically if you're not sure what i mean, it's the pupil in the closer eye
something i find extremely useful is squinting and looking at your drawing, so you can't get lost in the tiny details but instead see the drawing as a whole, issues become more obvious. it can take a while to get the benefit out of it but try it out.

>>4734083
That was helpful rule of thumb anon, but I think I still lean towards bigger toes for some reason

>>4734160
I also noticed the position of the mouth is wrong and the shape of the back of the head goes a bit too far I think.

>>4734166
That looks a lot better. I think if you work on the face appeal a bit more your style would be 10/10 fappable.

>>4731167
Because I didn't feel like it, lol.

>>4732674
Honestly this doesn't look too bad but jesus christ dude scale down the head size. the proportions of the head compared to the body is fucked. They're both individually drawn fine, just make the head smaller.

First time doing a full body drawing on digital and I think I fucking suck. Haven't done something like this since high school and it shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmKFuJ3bh74
BUT I THOUGHT WE NEEDED LOOMIS!!!
WTF BROS!!
WHERE IS HER CIRCLE??
HOW DO I DRAW HEAD NOW???

>>4734625
>/beg/ thinks Loomis is the only head construction method
For your sake I hope this is just low effort bait.

>>4734643
Yet whenever someone asks how do i draw, the answer is always Loomis.
When someone asks how to improve, it's More loomis.
inb4 "But i'm not like that". Yet i never saw anyone come out and say that loomis is not the only method, so you're just supporting it indirectly.

>>4734694
Because YOU suck and need loomis

>>4734694
Because Loomis is basic and easy to understand if you aren't retarded. Personally I prefer the methods taught by Vilppu and Huston. If you are just blindly following advice on here then you are absolutely retarded, especially if it's just someone saying LOOMIS LOOMIS YOU NEED LOOMIS. Just look at the people who post in /beg/ and just copy Loomis' drawings from the book, "finish" the book, and then still can't construct a head properly because they didn't actually read and learn the material.

>>4734625
Loomis.

How to draw hair?
I'm use to drawing short hair and probably my 2nd time drawing long hair

((Currently readin Keys of drawing))+/beg/

>>4735097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd6Lc06wvmE

>>4735179
That channel looks like a treasure chest of knowledge I'll need!!
Thank you anon!!
ちゅ~ no homo

>>4735184
Learn perspective pls
is the only way to improve fast

>>4735209
how do i learn perspective

>>4735213
https://drawabox.com/
MIN 26:23
https://youtu.be/7MV-bJz1dcw?t=1583
Drawabox is like a beta version of Marshall Perspective Course for me
and your lineart will also improve
and
Bucci
https://mega.nz/#!%20pb4VTJ6L!SH0dL3-vBUCyyA_V13-vodDGUvOZ5L1pImHTXrEuqcs
and
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/asaro-head-9d26548182f8465a8e97371a9170561e

>>4735179
why do these autists try and be funny? literally not a single joke he made was comical. god

whats a good way to mix colors in photoshop similar to sai/csp? the mixer brush is unusable garbage.

>>4734523
Here's a few things you can improve.
Eyes are uneven and different sizes, nose is way too small even for anime style, torso is too short, so are the thighs, calves are too long and draw the feet ffs.
Also maybe try thinking of the different parts as 3d objects rather than flat shapes

>>4735348
Because the attention span of internet normies is trash and youtubers need to add a lot of stimuli and even if it's low quality it'll increase the retention

>>4735386
I mainly paint in CSP but in PS I use a chalk brush or round brush with very high spacing and scattering on the smudge tool. That's gotten me the closest to not just gaussian blurring shit, you can maintain some brush strokes in your sliding of the paint around. Usually want a lower flow/density.

>>4734166
Update

Added some SFW clothing

>>4735555
Thank you. I'll see if can try and apply all of that. Loomis truly does wonders.

>>4735905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDR1NR_NCxc

>>4736296
It's called "alpha splitting" mate. I could have used any random color at this stage. as it's just for the visualization of the proportions of the elements that compose the illustration and how good their silhouettes read

I hope you understand that you have to go from big to small, simple to complex, and don't say about pic related something like "the rim lightning brushstrokes look rushed" or some stupid shit like that. It's still a thumbnail

>>4736438
step all over him anon

>>4736438
Not sure how you're going about it right now, but breaking down the leg into basic 2 cylinders and a sphere for the knee makes foreshortening a lot easier to visualize. You should also think about more how her foot is connecting to her leg. Just remember the leg cylinder fits into an imaginary hole near the back on the side closer to the big toe(yours is a bit too far up the foot and the ankle bump is in the wrong spot). Also be more conscious of how everything is in perspective, right now her thigh is twisting away from us, her lower leg is sort of lateral to us, then her foot is somehow almost flat in our face. I know you're trying to show as much of the sole as possible but you should either be more conscious of the pose or sacrifice a bit of sole so we can accurately see the side planes of her foot and toes. Just some thoughts I had.

>>4737026
>>4737026
>>4737026
>>4737026
new