/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

All I know how to do is eat hot chip and lie.

>>4700214
I can't do comics without pencil underlays but my pencil underlays result in worse art than straight pen stuff

>>4700214
I do love creating art, but I think I want to keep it as a hobby. Maybe make extra cash on the side by doing commissions or selling custom made stuff. I really just want to work on my bachelors and get into the herpetology field.

>>4700214
I take an anti migraine med and I shouldn't drink with it, but I still do.
Last night I had vodka and I have a migraine today and I'll get fuck all worthwhile done, again.
Fuck's sake.

>>4700214
I've been unironically drawing Jesus lately. I'm not religious and I don't feel motivated to go on that path, but when you draw these people it feels like you're reaching something higher.

my career plan on how to make it as an artist is an absolute pipe dream like all my other thoughts and has a huge huge chance of blowing up in my face

but maybe that will make it all the more significant if I do make it in the way I want, and if I can pull it off I think I can do great things

this confession is more my own megalomania but I think I'm gonna need it if I want to get my messages out there

I wasted my time watching anime instead of drawing

I sometimes like to imagine OP’s mom naked and that gets my lady bits all hard.

tfw no gf

>>4700214
>hot chip
i canceled some ppl on twitter to get into the industry...

>>4700256
very based

>>4700365
And now we see what cancel culture is really about

>>4700387
hey atleast i get paid to draw now

>>4700387
That was cancel culture from the get-go

I've been lying about trying to find a job to my parents since I just want to draw and don't care to take care of people.

>>4700214
I don't even draw. I spend most of my time arguing with anons here and getting them to seethe. I don't care about art because it's a luxury. The world will survive without it and its not necessary to live.

Art brings nothing but suffering and turmoil. How many posts have you seen online about artists bitching that they aren't good enough? The nonstop ranting. The twitter game of reposting month old art for more followers.

I will do everything I can to get an artist to give up on drawing. I will say their art is garbage, that their anatomy is shit, that their rendering looks like a monkey could do it. I am doing them a favor. I am saving them from a life of misery and destruction.

Stop chasing fame and start chasing something that matters, like an actual career.

>>4700413
Unironically based.

>>4700413
life itself is not necessary.
Necessity seems to have no necessity in any serious evaluation of value.

People willingly died in battles. Clearly there's more to live than mouse utopia.

I spend more time F5ing 4chan than drawing.

>>4700424
People had died for less.

>>4700413
Okay wagecuck

>>4700475
>wagecuck

I don't want to hear that from an artist. If you want to be a starving artist then be my guest.

The fact that you can't refute my points prove I'm right. Cry more artslave. Go die for your craft

>>4700413
>>4700479
Salty boy lurking the thread to instantly respond kek

>>4700413
>>4700420
>>4700433
>>4700479
Commit suicide.

>>4700483
>>4700501
NGMI fags. COPE.

I haven't made a finished piece since Christmas

>>4700479
>seething
The schizo is lurking in the thread so he can get some (you)s.

>>4700214
I think I'm falling in love with a fictional character I keep drawing fanart of. The character is a cuck and isn't even attractive, but makes me feel mushy inside when I think of them. Since drawing them four times, I've had more than 20 extremely detailed dreams that feature them in a quality that would make conceptart.org stab themselves in envy and any time I get to choose what I do in the dream I automatically try and chase them down. In one of my dreams, another character (obviously my subconscious) made lewd suggestions that we were fucking, but we have only held hands cutely. Every time I draw them I feel really awkward but when I don't draw them I feel unhappy.

How do I reconcile the fact that a) my crush isn't even real b) said character wants to fuck another character who I am also drawing c) my subconscious keeps making up extremely detailed and cute love story dreams with perfect perspectives and visuals every time I do art d) if I don't draw said character I lose all the love I have in creating art

>>4700554
Just take it to its logical conclusion and see how far it goes.

>>4700572
I just hope that no one can tell.

I want to draw some tasty coomer shit, But all I succeed in doing is putting down a sketch, getting too horny, furiously masturbating, then losing interest. Why am I like this?

>>4700214
Whenever there's a work in progress I like to pretend I'm the cute animu grill and try to experience whatever it is she's trying to convey. You can get immersed so much that sometimes you forget you're not a girl.

>>4700214
I can't fucking draw

>>4700214
I think im coomer

Tablet broke and I'm the type of autist who refuses to draw on paper and will wait for months until I can afford a new tablet of similar specs. Then I'll whine that I haven't improved when I get it.

I am so tired, I feel like I can just ragdoll of of my chair.
I dont want to be at my dead end wage job. I want to draw some anatomy studies but my phone is out of high speed data, and I'm impatient to wait for things to load.
I just want to sleep.

I single handedly make up about a quarter of all the shit threads on /ic/. I have also been banned from a number of art discords for excessive shitposting. I have no regrets.

>>4700848
What's it like to be satisfied with your activities? Like how does that feel? Is it spiritually fullfilling?

>>4700856

>>4700214
You making this thread when there is already a /vent/ thread has convinced me to leave ic. Thanks OP.

>>4700214
I havent made any meaningful art progress in years.

I get too distracted by games or the internet to really commit to art.I like to tell myself it's because of my environment (recently moved and staying in a small space) but I know if I wanted to get shit done I would.

It's like I dont want to be an artist even though it's the only thing I want to end up being. I cant think of any other career goals I want, but I'm too lazy/indulgent to become one, so I'll end up being nothing,

>>4700873
Would buy from the barging bin

>>4700214
Father, I got all the skill I wished for years ago to make all the stories I wanted to tell. But I have done nothing with the power, my enjoyment and will to draw disappeared... so here I am, sitting on a gold mine I cannot bring myself to use.

I honestly don't know why I'm learning to draw. It kills the void at least and it's better to create than consume I guess.

>>4700214
i keep switching from 2d to 3d every month or so and i cant focus on one field.

>>4700413
This is unironically sad, if true. I hope you achieve your dreams, anon

>>4701428
me too anon

havent really draw for weeks and I feel good. I wont force it, it was never about that

>>4700413
>art because it's a luxury. The world will survive without it and its not necessary to live.


yeah goodluck on the quarentine without any art bruh

>>4701748
Yeah you are not meant to be an artist and it’s great that you figure it out before wasting your whole life chasing it

>>4700554
push it to the limit. this will be your masterpiece

>>4701754
actually anon I am meant to be an artist, art is already my life and will continue to be.

but its ok to take a break too. its ok

>>4700214
I'm a drawfag on /trash/

I'm supposed to be writing a programming regimen for drawing, like I've did years ago with weight loss, but I ended up goofing off today.
I know I have it in me to make the program and commit to it, since I completed my fitness regimen years ago, but I cant seem to do anything right now but stew listlessly, everyday.

My insomnia is sabotaging my ability to work, but the only thing I can think of at 5 AM is boredom, not sleep.

>>4700554
that's kinda sweet. who is it?

>>4700429
lmao this

i drew the funny cat from animal crossing with a long shirt and flaccid dick wearing political campaign shirts but im too scared to post them online because im scared people will use them as unironic twitter profile pictures when i only intended it to be a funny joke

>>4702126
post it

on nofap but keep drawing inflation/weight gain/hypreg shit. only way i can keep my productive consistency

>>4700214
I have never practiced my fundies

I don't like to have a lot of attention, yet I crave likes

I'm a /beg/ tier artist and I respond to people who are better than me to give them advice when I see something they can work on.

I'm tired of commissions but I never finish any of my own pieces. With coms I have an obligation to finish it even when I'm bored of it. I've only been doing them for less than a year but I'm already sick of people telling me what to do with my art. I know it's the nature of the beast, and theyre the customer so I shouldn't take it personally, but I'm tired of people wanting changes to the color or composition that ruins the whole piece.

>>4702870
Make a rule where the customer isn't allowed to make changes past the sketching phase. Duh.

I cry whenever my art doesn't get enough likes from strangers on the internet.

>>4700256
I wanna see

>>4700214
i'll kms unironically if i dont make it this year

>>4703688
we all know you wont make it and we all know you wont kys either.

I'm done with being a coomer! I want adapt short bible stories into manga!

I know some of it is standard and expected, but I've started photobashing and tracing to grind out commissioned work faster, and I hate how it feels. It also makes me feel less motivated to do studies and personal work to actually learn how to draw the damn stuff.

>>4703694
you only quit cuz youre too trash to even get coombux

I falseflag to shit on my own works so others would defend and praise them harder in spite of their mediocrity

>>4704826
Genius

Democracy was a mistake.

>>4701428
Combine them, it is a beautiful thing.

>>4700214
I don't practice enough to go pro but I am almost entirely disconnected from the outside world and have neither the skills nor the money necessary to seek any other kind of employment.

>>4700413
I'm just as bitter but I think the opposite way, I'm looking forward to the moment where anybody with passion will have quit making art, and all you'll have is e-celebs, porn and anime. I know it won't happen, but I hope there will be a moment where people will look back and realize they traded something of value away and it will never come back.

I can’t make friends with any more mentally ill people. I can handle like mild anxiety and actually chronic depression given the person actually wants to get better, but this bipolar, borderline, too anxious to survive shit and actual autism/asperger’s (not the occasional awkwardness but the people who cannot understand why no one wants to be their friend after whatever stupid thing they just did) is too much for me to handle. I’m not the king of having my shit together, but I sure feel like it around most of the artists I run into and it sucks. I feel like a babysitter, parent, and therapist all in one and not just an art friend. It feels shitty because I know I’m part of the problem of why people with certain mental illnesses tend to flock together and just play up their own issues, never actually improving, but I cannot do it anymore. I don’t even consider most of these people friends, just obligations.

I started that raidorunners/drawabox challenge. Damn it's helpful

>>4705800
>he fell for the artfriend meme
It's nice on paper but you should know by now that pretty much everyone sane and rational isn't going to 4chan and posting their discord handle. The sane and rational adults know that it's a waste of time.

>>4705873
This, a lot of retards here don’t under stand this. This is fucking 4chan, you think you’ll find someone that’s not mentally ill?

>>4705873
>>4705884
Oh I didn’t even consider making friends on 4Chan. I’ve been finding people on Instagram and Twitter, which probably isn’t any better, and through friends of friends.

>>4705889
People who are looking for more online friends are usually looking for friends for a reason. Typically because theyre mentally ill friend collectors who use strangers for emotional tampons. It's kind of like a cute girl you match with on tinder. There's probably a reason she's single. No such thing as a free lunch in this world, if its too good to be true it is.

>>4705905
Yeah, that makes sense. I hate to be that guy, but I miss the old days of the Internet where it was so easy to just connect with good, fun people who happened to share your same hobbies and it wasn't just a safe haven for everyone unfit to socialize offline.

>>4700214
Sometimes I post my work on reddit instead of here because I just want validation and updoots instead of the hard truth.

>>4705968
>poast werk on plebbit
>shallowpraise.exe
>poast same werk on /ic/
>get told anatomy is shit and called a faggot

Checks out.

>>4705905
>It's kind of like a cute girl you match with on tinder. There's probably a reason she's single.
fuck me if this isn't true

I purposely draw in public sometimes for compliments. It gets hard grinding alone or in a shop for hours a day without much reward.

>>4700365
Jisu?

>>4706007
You're only human. It's okay to want validation. Don't be ashamed.

>>4700214
I only recently found out Jim Lee is not related to Stan Lee.

>>4705976
Reddit is cancer when it comes to art. There's some good art, true, but when someone post a really shitty painting/drawing everyone just praises it like its a masterpiece
Pic related

I've worked tirelessly over the years to become one of the better people on /alt/. I get next to no praise, I get 1 rt and 1 like on Twitter. I spend my time on here learning and working, making art because it gives meaning to my life. When what I make is ignored and no one cares it underlines exactly how pointless my life is.

I can only copy and can't draw from imagination/reference

>>4706711
learn to market yourself, and swallow your pride, if you want to make it, that is.

>>4706716
Yeah but if you get good enough you dont have to do that. Right?

>>4706711
Most people are incredibly petty and shallow, why would you subject yourself to that punishment? The most important validation in the world is satisfaction of your own improvement from challenges and goals you give yourself.

>>4706720
where did you get that idea? anyone that is good at marketing himself can make a living, even if their stuff isn't all that. There are plenty of artists that are great and nobody pays too much attention to them, it could be either because they are not really invested in learning how to market themselves (yet) or they simply have no working experience. It takes humility to accept that you'll have to work your way up to be recognized, that doesn't mean whoring yourself in social media posting fan art or stuff you don't enjoy doing, but simply creating your own business model, if you want to work for others that's fine too, but don't put the blame on the little attention you get or if people like it or not, that's just information about what people like, it doesn't tell anything about you as an artist. Do some research and find places where you can reach out and show your art if you've built a portfolio and seeing that you've made plenty of work already this part wouldn't be too hard for you. You can make art for the joy of doing it as >>4706735 points out but popularity is all about being in the right place at the right time, there's some luck to it but the chances of people knowing about you'll be much higher if they can actually see your work somewhere, and you can actually get paid for this and there are plenty of ways to do it.
Also, whoever is popular and hasn't done some grinding and reaching out, knocking doors before getting there is full of shit, and certainly not an example of what it really takes to make it, just hear about any artist that works in the industry, they never magically land their dream job, it was always them grinding while working part-time or doing some grunt work until someone gave them a chance for a position and they worked their ass off to earn it.
It could be that your goal is much simpler, but try to establish a plan around it, I assure you any of those artists you envy had a plan, and they successfully pulled it off.

>>4700214
I'm more focused on getting through my drawing books, than actually learning from them.

>>4706714
I can only draw from imagination and it takes me 6 hours to draw a single character in a single pose. if i try to use a reference i keep trying to correct myself and never end up finishing the drawing

I turned into a stalker for some female girl artist who draws requests on different boards to the point when I recognize even simplest sketches

>>4706777
trips of truth. I consider myself quite good and efficient, but i suck at marketing big time. I hate social medias so posting on them isn't really interesting to me and i don't really chase clout anyway. So yeah, expensive commission work is out of reach to me because i can't manage a proper internet presence.

What you said about getting into the industry is absolutely correct, it's just like any other job where you have to start low and climb the ladder through hardwork, there's no shortcut to a dreamjob (i've been there, done that, ended up creating my own project because i don't like working on someone else's project, and it pays enough so i can keep doing it)

I own dozens of art books and haven't started any, but I keep buying more whenever there's a sale.

>>4705800
God, I agree with you about being a babysitter to all art friends. I don't want to talk about someone's dysphoria or someone's lack of direction in life or their psychosis. I just want to get better at art. If you (or anyone reading this) feel the same way and want an art friend who is actually stable, drop your discord.

>>4707813
You’ve morphed from an artist wannabe into an art book collector.

>>4700554
I wish I could have dreams about the character I want to fuck. I love just drawing them doing things that I want to do with them using a character who is similar to me but not similar enough that people would catch on

This might seem weird or embarrassing but I haven't really told anyone this nor do I have anyone I could tell. The short of it is I very recently came to the conclusion that all I want to do in life is make comics.
I've always had a very visually oriented mind, and when I let my mind wander it's a lot like a really vivid hallucination. At some point I developed this ritual where I would put whatever music on, close my eyes, and imagine a scene playing out based on whatever was playing. After a while, the scenes became more cohesive, and I began to form proper narratives and settings around them.
This has been happening for years. At this point I have a number of pretty solid ideas for stories I would like to do, but I always had this weird anxiety about starting late in life and never being happy with anything I could do, as at my skill level it wasn't possible to match what was in my head.
That said, I believe I've gotten over that mentally. Without going into too much detail, my life isn't great and as you might guess I'm not exactly the picture of mental health, but I just feel that if I can make these ideas real I can be happy. There's really nothing else I want to do.
I'm still not good, I've only been practicing consistently for a month, but I've begun to enjoy the process of learning and started feeling better about myself as whole now that I have a concrete goal to work for in life.

>>4708817
Oh hello, you're me from the past. I'm not a pro by any means, but my skill level is to the point where sometimes I'm even happy with what I've made. It's a good feeling. I wish you the best anon.

>>4700214
I still can't draw my cute wife...

I shilled loomis

>>4700390
guide? id like to do this aswell, i promise not to cancel you after

>>4702335
same here, ive been going on no fap to bang out the more boring studies I have to do.

>>4700214
Does anyone else have the problem of where they think of the perfect comic, spend hours thinking about the plots and characters, think of shows and media that are similar that they should research for their comic, and yet they never start writing or anything, just sit on 4chan and shitpost.

>>4700214
I didn't know what mask layer do until recently. I was drawing for 5 years

I'm stuck procrastinating about how best to start learning to draw rather than drawing.