/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I tried to draw a heavier female. Thoughts?

>>4675906
Manhands and neck is too wide.

How does this pink bulge form inside the crease?
I've illustrated it, but the actual reason eludes me.

>>4675923
it depends on the onject, a tit wouln't deform like that in the midle but it will from the parts were theres more skin with not much fat underneath, like the underboob and sides

>>4675935
Let's say a sack of flour

should I bother completing random projects like this one or should I focus on studying more?

>>4675891
I'd really appreciate some critique. Specifically the head is a weird shape and I don't know why, I just keep flipping the canvas. If you see anything else feel free to body my art. :)

First digital coluring from a reference that isn't anime. Ik it looks wonky, idk how to do digital painting well.
>>4675941
You should finish them, there's a lot you can only learn from doing that.

>>4675939

WHERE DO THE TITS GO AHHHHHHHHHHH

For some reason I can't force myself to just pick and commit to one structured approach. Every day I have 0 idea what I actually should be doing. I tried out Keys and I got through the first chapter just fine, but now I'm on chapter 2 and jesus christ if I try to read it my mind just shuts off completely

>>4675972
Very nice. The selfie angle is a tough one to get. Her shnozz is a bit big, though, and the shoulder looks a little off.

>>4675906
this is great! the torso is a little short and the legs are a little long, but thats something you can make work as a stylistic choice. also, keep in mind that larger women dont only accumulate fat around the tits and hips.
>>4675913
i dont really understand the style youre going for with this one. the colouring isn’t half bad but all the figures and especially their faces are so distorted and inconsistent in a way that doesn’t feel intentional. what are you aiming for here?
>>4675941
even if youre not super confident about where a project is going, its almost always better to see it through to the end rather than leaving it unfinished. studies are important but its not a crime to just draw something because you want to. this one looks excellent so far!
>>4675949
this one is promising as well, her expression is really sweet and you can tell her personality from it. the big issue im seeing is that the head and body are drawn in too different styles, the head being more chibi/anime and the body being more semi-realistic. do some digging to find a photo of what you think this character would look like irl and base her face/head shape off of whatever image you land on, or go full cartoon and play with the proportions of her body.
>>4675976
digital painting is extremely difficult so dont beat yourself up. for most styles i really dont reccommend drawing singular strands of hair or singular eyelashes, try to draw sections of hair as one singular shape.
>>4676022
this is the most obvious advice, but since it seems you already have a strong grasp on your style and art basics just study bodies until proportion and the placement of different body parts become second nature to you. studies will also improve your stylized work. websites like line of action and quickposes can help simulate what youd do in a figure drawing class.

>>4676186
and a self portrait

>>4676239
*I'm not sure how to improve

>>4676239
I'm too /beg/ to be able to tell what's wrong here, but I like it. It just looks kinda blurry around some edges, maybe you should try using a sharper brush?

>>4675906
the hands can't be longer than the head, even if you're aiming for anime proportions.

>>4676239
I'll preface by saying I am by no means an expert, but a few things stood out to me. First being that her body is all twisted up. Her face points right, her torso to the left, then her legs back to the right. After flipping the pieces around I noticed her legs are also out of perspective with the rest. Her legs look like we're looking dead on at them whereas everything else is turned. There's multiple ways to fix all of this, either do what I edited it into which is having everything facing the same way, or alternatively you can have legs + torso facing one way and the head to the other. Or if you were going more for the body being straight on and the head being turned you could do that, but that would require you to redraw everything since her torso is turned.

It's Uraraka Ochako from BNHA

What do you think about the likeness? Both body proportions and face

This is my first time drawing feet and hands like that. They're pretty meh :/ . I also feel that the back limbs are looking a bit flat. Is there a tangent or should I exaggerate the limb size? Feedback or even a redline would be greatly appreciated.

>>4676082
>i dont really understand the style youre going for with this one. the colouring isn’t half bad but all the figures and especially their faces are so distorted and inconsistent in a way that doesn’t feel intentional. what are you aiming for here?
Not entirely sure what you mean. Like, the perspective is all messed up and inconsistent?thats not intentional. I’m just bad at it, apparently.

>>4676377
sorry that's a bit large

Trying to get atleast 1 page of thoughtful drawing using ref a day. Really working on trying to get an intuitive understanding of the form of these objects and rotating them in my mind.

I just want to draw gruff kngihts, noble twinks and muscular mama bears but I feel like my stuff still looks like the scribbles you'd find in a kids school book.

Any tips or advice on where to go so my stuff looks more 'complete' ?

>>4675763 (You)
Pic related are some of my main influences as to where I want my art to end up. Big leap from where I am but hey, gotta aim high right?

>>4676239
Dope, but tits and arms/shoulders/hands need some work

>>4676528

>>4676240
We know

>>4676239
This is what I would've done

>>4675913
Research facial expressions
Girl on right looks terrified
The one on the left looks dead inside

Does eye level change if you tilt your head up or down?

>>4676709
Based on what? You eyes don't just jump around the face but yes you eye level will change.

>>4676607
You would have made it worse?

>>4676333
Thank you, I made it more twisty because i read that it makes it look more dynamic from I think anatomy for sculptors.
>>4676439
>but tits and arms/shoulders/hands need some work
I get the tits but where did I mess up on the shoulders, arms and hands?

I have literally just started, landscape art is relaxing to do

>>4676749
then heres a night one i did right after

>>4676239
You're improving so fast!

What's the secret to finally just start the act of drawing, whether it's for fun or practices?

Waah

>>4676742
shoulder girdle looks too narrow and high up (I get that's the pose and style but something about it feels off), her left upper arm looks short and sausagey, and its connection to the torso feels poor. I thought her left hand looked too small but honestly your reference has pretty small looking hands, maybe it just looks too small compared to her right one, which to me looks better, but I'm beg so maybe I'm tripping

>>4676740

I feel really stuck. I managed to make drawing a habit but i don't know where to go from here.

>>4675891
anyone can tell me how i can improve copying things?

Loomis pgs 24-27

>>4676959
i'd recommend you practice this
https://drawabox.com/lesson/2

>>4676934
Don't aim to get all of the contours correct in the first pass. Even with copying, create the rough, light sketch of where you think things are, and then carefully look at the image and make your decision lines. Your nose sticks out too much, the nostril is too small. Now that you notice these things, make the corrections as your final lines.

>>4676968
i tried re draw it but i dont know if it is right this time

>>4676978
Why did you erase what you already had down dude? If you just flat out re-draw it you're not learning anything and just starting from scratch with no guide.

The curve between the bottom of the nose and the lip isn't long enough, the chin should protrude out more, and follow through more with your lines. You're not drawing a flat 2D image, you're trying to capture a 3D image on the 2D plane.

Think about everything you draw as having depth to it instead of trying to focus hard on the outline.

>>4676528
Joji?

>>4676988
i have the two files saved and thanks for respond me, just tell me im still stuck in the symbol drawing phase? and how i can make smother lines like you? im a beginner with the digital drawing and is somehow hard draw with the tablet
i have been thinking practice the first exercises of the first lesson of draw a box in digital

>>4676978
>>4677005
I gave it a try. There are still some small parts off but I've only been practicing figure drawing and proportions. Haven't even tried messing around with how to properly see values and shading. Anyway fun exercise.

Also the brush I'm using is a downloaded one that I found I liked from Clip Studio Paint called "HiBipencil (ver.2)"

>>4676875
https://anatomiaartistica.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/michael-hampton-figure-drawing-design-and-invention-1.pdf

>>4676742
Honestly, nothing wrong with making it more twisty as long as you don’t go overboard. I’d rather have a dynamic pose that’s slightly wrong than a stiff pose that's entirely correct. With that said, something I’d recommend you do is look into drawing skinnier or muscular people - that way you can see the landmarks of the body i.e. hips, ribs, collarbone, etc. It also helps you practice musculature without needing to dive right into an anatomy course or book. Your reference has more fat on her body, and when you’re just starting off and don’t really have a feel for where everything goes on the body, that can throw off your final result.
Finally I’m just gonna make an assumption here so feel free to disregard if I’m wrong - have you mostly been practicing off anime faces? If so, stop that and start studying real faces, the features you see on an anime face are almost entirely derived from landmarks of a real face i.e. the curve on the right side of your girl’s face comes from the cheekbone on a real face. Knowing how these stylistic choices are made will help you better construct an anime face and, in the future, build on that to create your own style.

>>4677080
thanks

>>4676965
Arrows 1/2

>>4676965
>>4677120
Arrows 2/2

As a crab, if I discourage an artist, do I gain his GMI?

>>4677144
Prob not, since the only artists that actually get discouraged from anons telling them their work sucks are the ones that don't have the proper mentality to make it anyway. They should have the mentality of continuing to do nothing but absorb, absorb, absorb, and be curious about why they messed something up, and how to fix it.

>>4675891
anons i tried to copy tamburini's young girl with a hat, what do you think, sorry for shitty low contrast pic

>>4677092
Thanks!

>>4677144
if they get discouraged in the first place, they had no gmi worth stealing anyway.

it has been a while since i last posted some work, so here it is a couple of my last drawing

>>4677191
and there it is; thoughts?

>>4677144
GMI artists shoot crabs on visual contact

>>4677191
>>4677194
Are these copied or referenced? They have a lot of soul. Work on your anatomy and lines though, find some exercises to do to make your inking better.

What are some good lineart and color tutorials for CSP that are short and quick? I'm having a hard time getting lineart and color not looking like the low tier cringe shit you see on DeviantArt.

Im pretty decent at drawing gestures, but as soon as the person is either at a directly 90 degree angle or for some reason specifically sitting on their soles it all goes to shit. I understand why i have a 90 degree issue since finding gestures is more difficult, but the sitting on soles makes no sense to me. Any pointers?

Btw the sole one was a little more than a gesture but i was working on it for quite a while cause i couldnt figure it out

yo i drew this shits lol

How do I turn drawing into a routine? I have such a hard time getting started. I have unrealistic expectations. How do I learn to accept being shit so that I can start improving? As it is now I find drawing unpleasant because my results are so crap, so I stop drawing and hence I don't improve.

>>4677222
checked, ty for the advice i will try some line
and inking exercises

i actually did use reference for the horso drawing, the jld napoleon painting hehe

>>4677496
I usually set a goal for myself for the day. start with something small like for me, I like working on my comic so I put a small specific goal like 'sketch one panel of a thumbnail'.

Don't make a goal with a high workload just do one thing at a time. Say if you want to practice gestures set how many gestures you want to do and then stop.

No need to rush anything once you get to the goal you can continue if you want.

>>4677496
What do you like to draw? What helped me is lowering my expectations, i used to want to draw like Fisher or Kjg and that got me really demotivated because i knew i was decades away from their skill, now i look forward to more simple artists like Tkmiz and try to have fun drawing things i like.
I think the hardest thing about drawing is getting started, it took me 5 years to go from day dreaming about drawing to actually drawing.

>can't even do loomis's funny faces
FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>4677496
Simply plan out what you want to practice. I recently started doing this and it helped me a lot with drawing daily. I write down on a whiteboard what I want to accomplish that day. So mine for today is to watch Vilppu's gesture video, then just practice gesture drawings for 2 hours. After that, I can either stop or simply do some free drawing for fun or even keep going with more gesture practice. And like the other anons said, aim low initially, especially as a beginner. You aren't going to magically become a master of drawing in a matter of a few hours or days or anything like that. Another thing I do is save all of my work, no matter how bad it is. That way, you can look back in a month or two and see how much you've improved, even if it's only a little bit.

>>4677496
People tend to have a lot easier time focusing on a task they've already started than actually starting it. Figure out what you should do and FORCE yourself to do it for a few minutes, and then it'll get easier.

>>4676607
How do you start drawing like this? How do you contract the body?

>>4676381
the perspective isnt great, that just takes practice though, youll get the hang of it with time. you fixed a lot of what looked wrong with the faces but what i meant mostly was that the way you draw figures is inconsistent even when you take into account that, obviously, not everyone looks exactly the same. for example. the size different between the black haired girls upper arm and the purple haired girls upper arm, when both characters look to have about the same bmi. also, none of your faces look like they were drawn in the same style.

>>4676740
Irrelevant. If you can't see the value of a redline that means you either are a stupid /beg/tard or have never been redlined.

Why is Henri Matisse a master?

>>4675891
One thing I'm having issues with is making heads too big. Does drawing the torso first work to fix this or should I create a general box instead at the start and try to fix shit from there?

I'm in week 2 in learning how to draw from 0 (i was doing really symbolics drawings that a kid would draw). I'm following a book, but i'm trying to work on faces. One of the face features that i really struggle is the nose, i cant quite capture the nose that i'm seeing and worst than that, they are all flat. How to improve on noses? How many shades of gray i need to make something feels 3d?
Thanks guys.

>>4677781
get rid of the harsh outlines

>>4677781
don't outline edges like you did on the right

your hatching also flattens the bridge of the nose

i think bit in between nostrils should be darker, as well as side of nose that is away from the light

also your shading doesn't really convey the roundness of parts of the nose. like the shaded left part of the bottom of the nose you made the whole part that is in shadow the same tone instead of darkening stuff the more turned away it is

>>4677781
Literally everyone struggles on learning noses, so for week two you're doing great. Ignore shading for now, just try to construct it with simpler shapes to learn where your curves are.

>>4677781
Try to break down the nose into simple, three-dimensional shapes.

Just starting out drawing in procreate, any advice is appreciated

>>4677781
Yeah for week 2 you're better than I am after a month. I've already given up. I'm ngmi

>>4677842
I like it, but I think his eyes are misaligned and his upper lip looks swollen on the left side of his face. No I can't redline

>draw figure
>proportions are all wrong, pick one thing to correct
>decide to narrow shoulders with lasso and transform tool
>everything looks ok, make new layer and draw over
>realize torso is too long
>make torso shorter with lasso and transform tool
>everything looks ok
>new layer, draw the figure all over... again
>realize head is too big
>shrink head with lasso and transform tool
>everything looks right, redraw everything... again again
>realize shoulders are too wide...
>repeat 100 times to complete a single sketch in the time it takes a normal artist to produce 5 elaborately colored and extremely detailed drawings with backgrounds

It's been months of this. Months of banging my head against a wall. This drawing thing isn't for me, guys. I'm thinking creative writing is more my speed.

>>4677981
Just accept that something is wrong with the drawing and leave it that way. I end up finishing nothing because I'm busy turd polishing a lot.

>>4677981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTou1akIQck
grind quickposes or sketchdaily for at least an hour
draw for 1m,without erasing and give 1m to analyze, and generate another image, don't stop until 30 figure drawings are made. pace yourself, but don't rush. once you consistently finish poses, switch to 30s on 30s off for 60 poses a day.
you've already proven to yourself you can notice mistakes, now this will help your brain find them quicker to diagnose your problem locations (shoulders were mine for years on end)

>>4677989
Polishing a turd is to add excessive details to a drawing with shitty fundamentals: anatomy and perspective namely. Trying to draw a basic figure in a basic pose and failing miserably isn't even polishing a turd. It's the act of failing to construct a turd to begin with

took a bit to sketch this out, any critiques?

>>4677854
just draw lol

>>4678013
Face proportions are wonky, abdomen construction isn't too well and her upper right arm and left shoulder look a bit too long. Tatas could use more and better shapes too. Your hands are fantastic though

>>4675906
Redux, taking inputs into account

>>4678022
>those hands are fantastic though
Anon...

>>4677998
Seems like an interesting video based on the first few minutes. I'll have to check this out further. And I appreciate the gesture grinding advice. It really is something I should do more of.

Do you mind elaborating on how exactly you conquered shoulders? I for the life of me cannot fucking get them right, ever. I feel like I can draw disembodied armless torsos pretty well, or at least at an acceptable level for my skill level. But when I try putting shoulders and upper arms on those torsos, everything comes unglued and its like I'm drawing shoulders way too big, way too wide, arms are too big or incorrectly seated on the torso, etc etc

>>4678033
>Do you mind elaborating on how exactly you conquered shoulders?
literal brute force. and i still wouldn't say i "conquered" them because trying to construct with concrete anatomy principles are still a pain for me. don't focus on the size, focus on the flow of the movement from the limbs and body. the rest will come naturally.

>>4678043
>"feel the form" " just be urself" tier advice
th-th-thanks...

I still don't really understand how to do construction or make use of it. I know this has mistakes and some of the placement is wrong; am I supposed to iron out every issue in this phase and make sure everything is perfect before moving on to the sketch? How do you guys actually use construction?

I also feel like a cheater because when I use a photo reference, I like to move my lines on top of the reference image occasionally just to make sure things are right instead of measuring by eye. I know that's basically equivalent to tracing and I should stop, but shit everything I'd draw would take 5x more time if I did

>>4678021
I can't. Everything I draw looks like pure shit. I'm not getting the results that other people are able to get at the same stage of development. I'm too far gone. I just suck. It was just like I always thought I can't learn how to draw.

>>4675891
Is this cute? Or at the very least funny?

>>4678146
Heres uncolored, I think I'll just stick with classic anime lips of just a curved line. Though I don't think people online will notice anyways

>>4678145
Bro say that shit after a few years and not after just one month

trying out round brush for life drawing

>>4678078
I'm terrible at drawing animals, but in general I recommend watching Vilppu's videos on gesture and spherical form, and eventually all of the videos of that are in https://mega.nz/folder/RIx3TJxJ#_Nna8t01kPxENJ8KSzXqwg/folder/EUJHgKAZ . I feel like at the stage you're at you might be better off learning basic gesture and form. I was at the place you're at for years before I finally decided to learn the most basic fundamentals. Also, don't get so hung up on being 100% accurate to the ref/real life, at least not yet. Doing super realistic stuff is for people who are masters at drawing, not pleb /begs/ like you and me.

>>4678151
There are people who start from zero that can do the exercises in Keys to Drawing or Left Side of the Brain or Drawabox and have them look like the examples after mere weeks of studying. I struggle to even force myself to draw for more than 45 minutes and can't do a single exercise anywhere close to right.

>>4678161
Thanks a ton for this, anon. I'll try to do gesture first

>>4678163
the moment you start using self-defeating speech you already put yourself on the road to failure. gather up some self esteem and practice, even if it looks bad, everyone was a beginner once, not a big deal.

don't compare your work to others, just focus on heightening your own skill.

>>4678163
pyw pussy

>>4678066

What yall think?

Did this from head. Help.

>>4678221
GMI

>>4677483
Dope. I love it. I don't know what else to say beyond that as I'm /beg/ too...

im trying. critique would be nice. thanks

>>4678260
Face a little fucked up

Reminder that it's only a failure if you fail to learn something from it

Bargue plate I just did.
I took the photo with flash on, so the graphite doesn't look cracked like that irl.

>>4678221
my sides.

>>4678025
GG, man. The extremely short neck doesn't look good on either thin or thick figures, so I would make it at least twice as long to be proportional to the width of the shoulder. Solid work otherwise.

absolute beginner started on 26th of this month
just got a tablet, barely drawn in the past
have been doing fun with a pencil, drawing a lot of spheres
but here are some hilariously bad attempts at replicating a reference pic just because they make me laugh

the pose looked much cooler in my head, too late to change now...

Aside from that are there any glaring mistakes? I'm still doing baby steps with digital

Thoughts on this?

>>4678529
Anatomy is a bit off, isn't it?

>>4678402
don't waste time drawing complicated shit. Not only the head direction is hard as fuck to draw for the thot , but the lighting is all over the place because of cunty make-up (highlighter can be confused with the highlight of the face, and so on). You should find photos with front facing or maybe semi profile portraits if you wanna study faces and values. Also maybe something less coomer? Haha just joking

>>4678146
Could be decent if not for the hair, it looks very messy. Get rid of the small sketchy lines.

>>4677144
yes don't listen to them

>>4678290
The line art is pretty neat but the figures look stiff. You should study drapery since it's something that can make a drawing look really bad if poorly done.

>>4678260
erase the left nostril at that angle

>>4678338
the hair is holding this back

>>4678556
I guess but could you be more specific? I'm guessing it's the legs and yeah... I wanted to make her tall as fuck but maybe it's way too much

What is the order I should learn/ practice my fundamentals, as a artist just starting out? And what material should I use to learn said fundamentals. I find that I learn much better through videos than books, fyi.

please crit my bones/construction/anatomy

>>4678338
i'm sorry i have no critique to offer, but where did you learn to render in pencils like that? i tried to a bargue plate earlier this year and struggled quite a bit.

Want to improve my box drawing by making the robo bean. As stupid as it my sound but i don't find the 3d model of pic related. I need it for reference.

>>4678778
holy shit, you cant draw 2 fucking boxes?

What's the best site for posting art, comics in particular?

>>4678784
There is literally a whole site dedicated to it https://drawabox.com/.. I'm pretty sure that ur boxes are awful and u don't realize it.

>>4678787
more like how to use boxes, stop being beg

>>4678784
>>4678803
Alright u are aretard that lacks self awareness unless u are able to draw boxes from any perspective freehand which i very much doubt.

>>4678805
lol. Just because you're so fucking beg you can't draw 2 boxes in perspective doesn't mean everyone is. Get good, begtard

>>4678805
>unless you can do it ,i won't do it

this is a NGMI in all his peak

Traditional brush for inking. What paper and ink is good for someone starting out?

is this a good quick sketch?

>>4678736
I use HB, 2B, 4B, 6B, and sometimes 6B. Then I blend it with a tissue clean it up with a kneaded eraser.
>>4678577
Do you know how to improve it? I think it's pretty close to the reference, pic related

>>4678897
and sometimes 8B*

>>4676189
>>4676186
this slaps anon

>>4676435
This is super decent anon

>>4677604

>>4678879
nosebro? finally you are leaving those goblin faces

>>4675891
What was the easiest way for you guys to draw hands? I’ve been trying just drawing basic shapes first and building off that but I’m still unsure if this is the best way to learn

>>4678987
Kek I think you've got me mixed up, whose nosebro?

>>4679071
Who's *

I know i fucked up the shading in few places (the building on left, the two towers on right in the back, the pipelines and the grass in the back) but you can't fix a biro

whatever happened to the guy who would draw nothing but his spiky haired girl using construction?

>>4678338
eyes too big and the shadow shape above them is a tad different from the one in reference

>>4679097
Awesome. The shading is well respected overall, the breaking pipes respect a certain dynamic (which is really cool).

The only detail I would add is some planks breaking apart. I know the style is not realistic (maybe surreal) but a few cracks of wood on the side of the right building would add to the dynamics of the scene.

Have a nice day / night

>>4678730
it's p good bro

>>4679251
too much construction.

>>4679268
so more rounding the forms?

>>4678402
Who's the thot

>>4679275
its already rounded, parts of the head are perfect half circles, so it looks unnatural

the upper lip is too big

>>4679286
got it, i was mostly studying asaro head when drawing, but didnt noticed the robot head.

thanks

>>4675891
how to improve this?

>>4679307
nose, right arm

>>4679315
like this?

>>4679403
>>4679307
You're not a beginner. Ask somewhere else unless you want advice from people worse than you.

>>4678704
what do you want to draw? what are some examples of your work?

>>4679403
gud

i dont want to learn how to draw. i want to instantly be better than everyone else and get universal acclaim and praise because i'm me and everyone else is them.

>>4679493
based and true artist-pilled

>>4679450
Humans. I'd post my latest work but it is fetish related. If you still want to see then I can share. I was advised to get deep into learning perspective, so I recently picked up Olsen's video tutorials, and plan to watch them from start to finish. I am unsure if based on my current work, if I should be focusing on something even more low level than perspective. And while finishing Olsen's perspective tutorials will take a long time to complete, I am unsure of what the next step from there would be. I am trying to follow this graph that was reccomended to me, however I am not very knowledgable which books to read that teach the various fundamantals I need to progress. (sorry for the wall of text)

>>4679712
books or videos* (I find videos are more effective for my style of learning).

>>4679712
Post your work

>>4678906
Hey, that's very kind of you to say! Thanks!

>>4679712
drawabox.com
do gesture drawings every day

Please tear this apart

>>4675891
I'm been learning prospective drawing for 2 weeks, can I get a critique?

>>4679734
My latest work made about a month ago.
>>4679753
This should be learned before perspective? During? Does it matter?

How the fuck do you make a drawing immersive/interesting???

I'm not really in any position to be giving advice, considering my art career consists of five years of a mix of "Study" and Study. But I'll do it anyway.

Make sure you follow guidelines when you put them down. Don't ignore them. Earlier today I was drawing a portrait from reference when after a while I realized I wasn't even paying attention to the guidelines I had set and was just mindlessly drawing. It ended up making the proportions go out of whack and look nothing like the actual reference image.

Follow your guidelines and don't draw with your brain turned off.

So I just found out I am retarded.
I can't even draw mountains: the most bland, least organic thing possible. What are the color and texture fundies? How to make a few triangles and rocks look good?

This is getting ridiculous

>>4679776
drawabox teaches the perspective you need for the exercises, gesture drawing is done from observation so you can do those before knowing perspective

>>4679789
I would guess composition, and perspective if you care about it

>>4675891
can somebody make a good study schedule for some of the beginner books posted here? specifically keys to drawing and fun with a pencil

>>4679872
Don’t look down on mountains you faggot.

>>4679872
I mean, to start, why are all your mountains made up of singular bulged curves? You actually had the right idea on the top-right image

what to do?

it's boring what to do?

>>4680198

>>4680196
downblouse

Heavy-set Woman: Vol. 2

Any improvements?

>>4680253
What precisely is your goal? I've seen you post at least 3 images that are all almost identical the past couple of days. Are you trying to perfect this one drawing? Do you think if someone points out what's wrong then you'll never make the same mistake again? Do you do any studies or other drawing besides these thick faceless ladies? I'm not trying to crab, but if you're drawing for fun or for yourself, then just draw to completion. Even if there's mistakes, who cares? You can look at it when it's done and analyze where it went wrong, and you'll get more out of it. If you're trying to study something specific, like anatomy/construction etc, then *do studies*, a lot of them. There's no shorthand to getting good at certain things -- If you want to have a decent handle on anatomy, you're gonna have to do a lot of anatomical studies. From there, if you want to draw more exciting poses then do gesture studies, etc. There's a ton of good resources out there for all of these things. Proko does decently informative and briefish lessons on all of this stuff. I highly recommend Vilppu or Hampton for anatomy. A bunch of video lessons by all the aforementioned are in the video course thread. >>4654003

>>4679872
found this in another thread, might be useful for you.

I have the attention span of a fruit fly and can't watch several series of hour-long lectures. Is there somebody other than Vilppu I can go to?

>>4680321
Proko does shorter videos than Vilppu, but I'll say Vilppu is way more in-depth and will hammer in a better understanding if you can stick with it. I dunno, everyone learns differently so maybe you can pick up the concepts easily enough in 15ish minutes.

>>4680253

>>4678535
Hilldawg?

It's not satisfying . I don't know how to dig it more

>>4680311
Is there one of these for drawing trees at a distance?

>>4680334
I honestly like the original better

>>4680253
What are you even trying to do. Your sketches look good, just keep fucking going.

>>4680364
The face is unsettling and the shading is super flat.

>>4680392
How can i avoid this?

>>4680364
WHERE ARE THE TITS

>>4680364
harsher shadows inside the blouse. She's looking forward thus going to block more light of the direct lighting, and the blouse is going to block out more of the ambient lighting.

>>4680401
I tried to edit it a little, but I'm terrible at coloring and the lines are kinda sloppy. Basically you have her eyes level but her chin isn't straight. Also you need to learn how to blend more, for example her cheeks just look like they have 2 big red splotches, when I think it was meant to simulate freckles? Whatever I'm a shit tier /beg/ too so probably don't listen to me.

Someone told be it was bad because composition and the lines were bad...
But I don't really see it.. Help me out bros

tried out dot art or whatever they call it and I've come to the conclusion it literally base line grug bullshit. Who the fuck in the art world is pushing for cave man shit we've long since grown from

>>4680500

>>4679763
It’s cute but his left hand looks like it’s been dislocated from the wrist. The hand should be stretched out more with the knuckles facing away from the viewer and the thumb visible.

This is probably a dumbass question but when you draw a long line, does it ever become acceptable to split it into several strokes? I know if you don't draw in one stroke it'll look chicken scratchy, but shit I don't know how people train their arms to stay perfectly accurate.

If you were to draw this snake, would you actually use only two strokes for the whole body?

>>4680626
I’m still a beg but I would use a separate line for each curve and just clean it up at the end so it looks like one line

Is Peter Han's dynamic sketching worth it if I want to do digital art? I'm not that interested in copics or white gel pens. Should I go for dynamic sketching or skip it and go with Michael Hampton and Vilppu?

>>4680474
They're full of shit. But maybe try making your inner lines less weighty than your outlines?

>>4680364
Try making that pose yourself. Notice how awkward it is. Her arms should be thrown back more, away from the audience

What's a good brush setting, or your personal favorite setting for linearts? Mine always came out jagged and unclean. Cleaning it takes forever.

>>4680649
it's not about the materials he uses it's about the basics of construction using basic forms

comic I'm working on

>>4680734
So skip the copic marker stuff?

>>4680747
not gonna make it

>>4680759
no u

>>4680311
>>4680136
>>4680167

Big thanks to you guys, especially to the one poszing the guide. n
New mountains coming today

>>4680311
>>4680136
>>4680167

Big thanks to you guys, especially to the one posting the guide.
New mountains coming today

>>4680745
that's scott pilgrim you fucking faggot

>>4680885
Nice guess, actually the name of my comic is Scott Burger.

>>4680367
As in? Evenly spaced or something like that?

>>4680474
This -> >>4680668

>realize halfway through painting this its a tmnt shredder knockoff and my imagination is just a subconscious memory from my childhood
goddamnit is it that obvious

>>4681014
ref

>>4680668
So softer inner lines?
Got it, thanks.
Anything else I can improve on?

Anyone else getting swole for the sole purpose of studying anatomy? You bet I'm going to draw shoulders right if I feel every god damn muscle ache and stretch.

not a beginner to linework, but this is the fifth painting i've done and while i'm happy with it i feel like i could improve a lot. you guys know how could i improve my shading, values, etc?

>>4681166
Anyone else getting a fit girlfriend for the sole purpose of studying anatomy?

>>4681271

ew is dead.

>>4681273
Muscle girls are gross. Women are meant to be fatty curvy blobs.

>>4681273
define "study"

>>4675891
why does this look like shit
what am I doing wrong
Also I can't place the mouth on this ffs

>>4681273
just get instagram, bro

>>4681468
In the video courses thread, find the head construction course by Huston. It's great and teaches you to properly construct the head. Loomis is really not that great for learning head construction imho, at least for me.

>>4680311
I failed you, anon.

I should have focused on lineart instead of skipping it completely and dump color on the canvas instead. M-maybe next time. Turns out what Bob Ross does easily is hard for me.

>>4681438
Feeling the form

>>4681468
Seems like you need to work on your visualization / spatial skills. Being able to imagine a real 3D face in your mind. I think drawing from photos would help you develop a sense of what a human face looks like. Try to memorize the positions of nose, eyes, etc. and then come back to this exercise and you should be able to do better.

>>4681271
It’s not bad, I don’t know if you count as /beg/ but who cares. Try to stay cognizant of your light source - the highlights on her sleeve imply the brightest light source is from the right, but her hair has even highlights all around. Her fingers on the pointing hand should also be brighter since they’re directly facing the brightest light source as well. Just try to keep in mind where your light source(s) are and make sure your lighting matches that.

Why does photoshop get so much hate on /ic/?

>>4681597
it costs money

>>4681598
You can pirate it?

>>4681570
got it, thank you very much anon

what do i do with the abdomen and torso

>>4681597
Because it's clunky, blends all colors into greys (there is no way around this even with the secret setting change), and Adobe just likes breaking the program with shitty updates for fun every now and then.

The ear seems too big. What else is off?

>>4681751
>What else is off?

should i shade brihs

>>4681152
That was the only thing that jumped out to me; it made the bear's left arm pop in a way that didn't seem intentional. I'm enamored of the dog, and suspect the anon who excoriated you was just crabbing.

>>4680976
No, like drawing landscapes and there's a forest in the distance

>>4681722
Do gesture first.

>>4681597
insanely expensive to get legally, overwhelming and not at all user friendly for new users and even after getting used to it it can feel bloated, not originally made with drawing/painting in mind, plus adobe is a shit company that really doesnt care about its users

>>4675891
I got a question, I'm almost done with reading/practicing with this book "Keys to Drawing" by Bert Dodson. I'm planning on reading next this book by Michael Hampton "Figure Drawing Design and Invention".

Is this a recommended next step? or do you guys think there should be another book/course I should be looking into considering that I've read "Keys to Drawing"?

My drawing has definitely improved since I started drawing seriously.

>>4681797
how long did it take you to do the book? how many exercises did you do a day?

>>4681807
About a month, I've done like 65% of the exercises I think. All exercises from Chapter 1 to 6 and a few from the other ones I'm currently on Chaper 7.

>>4681807
I forgot to mention, at least 1 exercise each day.

Hope you all are doing great. Don't me, just grinding some Bridgman

shtudyin

>>4681815
sweet, but i'm going to do 2 exercises a day just to spite you

>>4681832
that's perfect, keep at it bro

I knew that if I started to draw things would look bad, but I amk actually quite disturbed just how bad I am. Does my brain really think this is how it looks like?

Anyway: first attempts at everything: construction study, value study.

I knew that if I started to draw, things would look bad, but I am actually quite disturbed just how bad I am. Does my brain really think this is how it looks like?

Anyway: first attempts at everything: construction study, value study.

>>4681832
I'm gonna do 3, bitch!

>>4676970
i'm really new to drawing so i don't have any advice for you unfortunately, but i really like the feeling you're going for

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*clears throat* dunno man i was going for a mongol theme or some shit

>>4681597
brushes are laggy as fuck

>>4681977
I dig it, nice lines

>>4681533
>>4681273

Speaking of, does anyone have a Muscle Barbie folder they could upload for ref reasons?

>>4681831
You should construct, not outline.

>>4676803
still a /beg/ so i apologize if what i'm saying is incorrect.

i'm assuming that the what you're drawing is somewhat similar to pic related, in which case, the front foot should be facing the same direction your character is looking and not going facing the same direction as the back foot.

>>4682056
That's way too wide of a pose. Look for pictures of boxing not kung-fu or karate or whatever the fuck that is and you'll see what he's trying to do.

can someone explain to me why does her eyes look so weird? I've tried everything

>>4682059
thanks for pointing that out, i didn't even think of that.

JESUS CHRIST RESIZE YOUR IMAGES.

>>4682066
Not /beg/

>>4682074
Then what am I? I've always thought I'm /beg/ my anatomy is mediocre at best.

>>4682096
/beg/ means beginner, anon. Do you think a beginner could draw what you drew there?? I'm not gonna crab you out of the thread but I don't think it's /beg/ tier either.

Is copying images from other artist or frames from animated videos a good way to practice??
I try to comcentrate on doing a good sketch so that the finished drawing looks somewhat decent

>>4682158
Pic related

>>4682160

On Week 2 of Dynamic Sketching. My contour lines don't look right.

>>4682160
>>4682160
copy from photos first and pay more attention when you're copying

So I just made this without ref in about 30 minutes after some of Hampton's videos. Can I get some praise, even if the proportions are fucked and the pose is awkward af?

>>4682071
change your 4chan settings to "fit images to browser window"

new thread >>4682365
new thread >>4682365
new thread >>4682365

>>4676239
Very cute!

>>4675906
>>4678025
Bigger.