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>>4679261
use the whole fucking arm to draw

>>4679284
this. people make fun of me for how I hold a pencil but I'll be the one laughing when they can't even hold a pencil anymore

>>4679261
Draw from elbow or shoulder
Don't draw on small surface

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZWSQSSEjE

>>4679261
sometime I have the opposite of this, on the pinkie side, is this also carpal tunnel?

>>4679284
I draw worse like that though

>>4679288
How do you hold it exactly? Will it take a long time to adjust if I start doing it now?

>>4679288
overhand grip

How the FUCK am I supposed to draw details without wrist movement.

>>4679391
That's natural, you need to develop dexterity like you did with your wrist. It'll be a small temporary set back but it'll be worth it on the long run if only because of the health benefits, let alone the better drawing abilities you'll have.

>>4680119
You're too kind-hearted man. That was just a shitpost

>>4679396
Something like this, I reckon. Useful for pencil drawing

>>4680138
I’m willing to give it a shot, but wouldn’t this be a problem if done on digital

w-what should I do bros, I think I have the early warning signs

>>4680169
it works if you have an ipad

>>4680195
That solves my problem then, I’m actually typing this reply on one, I’ll try switching to that grip then

>>4679261
Don’t be an idiot and you won’t get carpal tunnel

>>4679261
#1 I stretch chest, shoulders,biceps, olbiques and neck.
#2 hold pencil as light as humanly possible.

some things to keep in mind
-Vertical mouses/ergonomic mouses are built to reduce chance of carpal tunnel too. https://youtu.be/XaWLLEztrIs?t=64
-in the past Blender used to have right-click as select, people would always complain and after they updated it to change it to left-click one Blender dev came out and said selecting with right-click is better for you as it reduces strain by not relying on the index finger for most clicks.

i'm starting to feel pain in my thumb, i'm really scared guys.

>>4679284
this, might take some practice but it improved my drawings

>>4680589
Learn to stretch every 30 minutes idiot

Use your entire arm, like how a painter does.

OP here, just wanted to tell you guys that I appreciate the responses.

>>4680138
This one is unsolvable for me currently, but I guess drawing with the elbow would be a step in the right direction.
>>4680577
I have starting wearing a posture correcting harness and I have no doubt it helped me sit through longer sessions. Posture really matters.
Gotta say I hate those vertical mouses, but I would probably hate carpal tunnel even more.

>>4680620
Painters uses wrists and fingers too.

>>4679261
I don't feel pain but sometimes my hand gets stiff and numb. Is that normal?

>>4679261
Martial arts, train your arms and wrist.

>>4682022

also consider using your other hand, i was actually able to draw with my left dominant hand by using the lateral quadropod grip

>>4682029

*left non-dominant

>>4682022
>>4682029

>>4681025
>posture correcting harness
link?

>>4682022
Am I retarded?

https://codewithoutrules.com/2016/11/18/rsi-solution/

>>4681054
to blend shit yeah

>>4680593
>every 30 minutes
i'm trying to draw, not doing fucking yoga.

>lift weighs
>train flexibility
>stretch

Be able bodied.
Draw, paint, sculpt traditionally.
Only plebs keep drawing and forget to take care their own body.

>>4679284
Thing i always wanted to be sure of, what about details?
If i made a small head and im drawing the eyes, should i still draw with shoulder or its ok to use the wrist?
Overall, drawing small things really bothers me because of that. idk if commiting to arm in this scale is the best approach, but on the other hand i dont want to damage my wrist, so im hesitant.

I'm not an artist. I'm just here because I love art. However I do lift and I have pretty sever carpal tunnel. I wake up every morning with numb fists and pain. Every time I do hand exercies or grip exercises I'm in pain. It also weakens my arms and makes my lifts shittier. I might get surgery but my current solution is ENJOYING THE PAIN. I just give 200% effort. I grip even stronger. I lift until my veins burst and my arm turns blue (literally). I punch myself in the stomach or somewhere else to spread the pain and make it easier to lift. I might get surgery some time in the future to fix this but it's kind of doable. I'm sure as an artist it's much less of a problem and much more doable then it is for me as a lifter yet I still do it. You can too. I'm also a 3D artist among other things I do on my PC and I know how it is. You can do it bro.

>>4683246
Keep doing that and u can say byebye to ur lifting days.

>>4683250
Why do you think that will happen?

>>4683253
Your solution is basically fucking up your arms more. They'll only endure so much before permanent damage is made, it's not just about the pain dummy, the pain is the warning that something is being damaged. Also, 3D modeling, wheter you do it with a tablet or worse yet, with a mouse, will also take a load on your injuries. Dude, you're into lifting, do you should know about permanent muscle injuries.

>>4679261
>feel like drawing a lot
>start drawing, getting fun, a lot of improvement
>wrist pain kicks in
>gota rest or risk to have carpal tunnel syndrome
>fuck this shit

put my hand in a splint splint a few days ago because of wrist pain and now both having pain in both my elbow and shoulder

theres no winning lmao

Is it better or worse carpal-tunnel wise that I use my mouse with my right hand and I draw with my left? On the one hand I think it distributes the strain more evenly between hands, on the other since I use the mouse more, maybe that hand is more 'trained' and my left is therefore more vulnerable? I'm just speculating, what do you think?

>>4679261
I got it and was scheduled for surgery, however the waiting list was so long, that after 3 months it had just fixed itself instead.

>>4688652
Did you do anythign specific?
Did you take a break or just continue drawing? Change in diet/exercise? (...)

>>4688659
The only change I made, was not drawing outside of work to put less stress on it.

Can you strengthen your wrist? Like over time, can you draw more and more without pain? KJG draws like 24 hrs a day without carpal tunnel, and he uses an incredible amount of wrist and finger movements.

>>4688712
I think it has nothing to do with muscles. just nerves being compressed against tendond that slide in and out of the tunnel. I assume they get inflamed or they even get thicker because of the practice which then compresses the nerves.

Or its really just psychological. I noticed that this affliction seems to be pretty badly researched despite how easy it seems to be.

Is there a solution for this if you aren't a painter or draw in small surfaces? I always feel like i put too much pressure in my pencil and when i realize i try to be more relaxed, but since i work on trad it's hard to do.

>>4688814
think of it like this
if you draw hard on paper erasing is gonna be a bitch when you line over it. Also be sure you sharpen your pencil were the majority of would be the graphite itself and it'll stop ya from puttin too much pressure on the bit itself.

>>4679390
That's called cubital tunnel. It has a similar cause.

I've just started drawing and I've already gotten carpal tunnel. The numbness is slight, the exercises help, and I've started offloading non-drawing things to the left hand, but it's worrying. Shouldn't have waited until my 30s to learn, I guess.

Debating whether to see a doctor ASAP or see if it resolves with a splint and stretching. It's been a couple months already.

>>4679261
Pushups on your knuckles. I know most of you aren't /fit/ but if you don't train your wrists then they will fail you.

>>4682941
Thanks fren. Will read that book mentioned.

>>4690434
I do this because I already have wrist pain

>>4679261
You're getting RSI from bad ergonomics and weakness. Set up your driver so you don't have to press so hard to get the stroke you want and do pullups/bar hangs/shrugs/deadlifts etc. anything that will strengthen your grip. t. had tendinitis a couple years ago and draw way more now and have had zero issues with it