/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I fucking hate art.

>>4669045
I think I might have adhd lmao
Or I'm just a lazy fuck
Either way I never get myself to practice nearly enough to improve

I listen to ASMR all day everyday.

>>4669045
the more i grind the longer the road ahead feels

sometimes i wonder how there's so many great artists, did they all put in so much work?

I draw to keep the pain at bay.

When the fuck do I get an art gf

My Japanese studying is cutting way too much into my drawing time but I I realized I'm never going to learn this fucking language if I don't spend 4 hours per day much like art.

>>4669045
is there ANY way to get commissions and make a decent wage without having to resort to social media?

This shit is way too volatile to be used consistently, and I feel like I'm walking on eggs whenever I post a personal opinion about anything

I just got blood in my poop

>>4669399
So have an art business account and an art shit posting account. Cmon anon seriously?


Strictly commissions and positive fan interactions on your business.

And heil the fuher for all anyone cares on your shit poster, just don't mix them.

People follow you for your art not your personality

My hand keeps getting stiff cause of my tiny ass tablet

>>4669409
you're fucking naive if you think that isn't going to bite you in the ass

people have been fired for posting shit in their personal accounts that are completely separate from their work accounts. And not even super alt shit, just some controversial opinion. If you step on cancel culture toes they will open up every closet you have in your house for some skeleton.

and that is just compounding on the real problem, which is volatility. If I don't nail every single posts it seems like I'm in a rut for who knows how long until the algorithm gods grace me with some attention.

>>4669399
Yes, by going to cons. If you won’t do that, then tough luck, kek.

>>4669419
I guess that's out of the question at least for a while due to the covid bs

My art makes me realize how much I hate myself and my shit brain. I find myself unable to make what I want to make and just keep getting worse and worse while everyone else improves or shits amazing art left and right. Art is the only thing I care about but apparently im just fundamentally incompatible with it despite grinding every day and it makes me permanently miserable

>>4669045
I've lost interest in everything.
I can't draw anything and i don't even want to draw anything because i'm not interested in anything.
I feel nothing but rage at my own incapability to do something.
Even considered to draw tiddies but not even that compels me.
Irl i might as well be a ghost.
Why am i even?

>>4669418
I said a shit posting account, completely separate from your business. Meaning different username, no way affiliated with your art account

>>4669462
You don't get it. That anon wants to shitpost with his main account and get acknowledged by retards like him for being the funneh man but due to the culture war and censoring going on, he can't even tell a joke.
But i'll tell you one:

Why is a woman as flexible as a piece of wood?
Because she'll only bend over once she's wet.

Now, if i were to make this harmless joke, i'd get thrown in jail and executed by electric chair for offending some thin-skinned roastbeef.
Now, imagine if someone were to post offensive memes.

>>4669480
Why do you so desperately want to make fun of women?

>>4669500
I don't. It's just a joke.

>>4669480
Again, they follow him for his ART not his personality. If you want to make me funny edgy jokes make an alt completely separate from the bed you don't want to shit In.

I draw in western comics style with occasionally heavy line weight. It's like my artstyle was specifically designed to get shitposted by weebs.

>>4669500
Humor is the hallmark of the soul, cancel culture and all it entails is just a coercive attempt to exercise power over no concrete basis whatsover, its dehumanizing by design and incredibly malicious by intent

>>4669514
Yes but no.
If you're an artist of any kind, you'll find it exhausting to treat your social media as pure business.
People are getting tired of being restricted to pure professionalism thus not being allowed to be human on social media.
Behind a work, there is always a person.
And we're sadly that far that a "wrongthink" can get you cancelled.
Even professional comedians are getting trouble from the cancel culture.

Do you know how a sweaty Japanese is called?
Yugota Takeshawa.

Cancel me.

why so scared of cancel culture? just dont rape or be racist. pretty simple.

>>4669546

>>4669546
Male nature is rape and whiteness is racism. Not outwardly acknowledging and agreeing with me is also violence.

>>4669549
BASED. As soon as my technical skill is good enough, I’ll probably do something similar. I don’t even care about the politics or the ethics, I just like seeing these faggots get triggered, plus, all publicity is good publicity

>>4669558
They're going to doxx you though.

>>4669555
so just keep your mouth shut and post art and not respond to triggered morons? if these artists would just shut the fuck up they wouldnt dig their own graves.

>>4669566
An upside to being a shut in high IQ degenerate is that I’ve basically never had social media like normies do, with very limited pics of myself online, and know very few people. How smart can these screeching pink haired retards be?

I dont want to go back to nursing and just want to draw

>>4669526
Bro I don't care, if your personality is so shit that you can't amass a following on social media without using your art as a crutch then maybe you don't have anything to say.


Use your platform as a business, pay your rent and feed yourself before you post some hot take.

I don't really know what to do anymore.

>>4669568
They may not be able to do it, but the skinny computer guys who desperately want female attention are going to do it.
>>4669571
>t. Sociopath
Yeah, why being people if we can fuck each other over for our own profit?
ME BIG MONKEH

normies are so fucking pathetic holy shit

Never want to draw now that I have a full time blue collar 40k a year job. Miss the days when I was working part time and going to school part time. Felt like there were nice gaps in between where I could enjoy drawing. My lunch was an hour and not 30 minutes so I'd always draw then. Now it's just work work, tmget home tired and just chill with games

I'm just so complacent now, it pisses me off. Set a time limit of 5 years for this job and it's been 2.5 now; even if I have nothing lined up, am planning to quit and hope that sets a fire under my ass.

>>4669579
THEY DON'T SUBSCRIBE OR FOLLOW FOR YOUR PERSONALITY, THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT YOUR ART.

You're the sociopath

>>4669605
>completely missing the point
That you can't even comprehend what's being meant, shows how much of a sociopath you are.
Lemme guess, you draw anime tiddies?
figures.

I definitely need therapy but I don’t want to be prescribed ssris or whatever medication they’ll make me take that causes suicidal thoughts/weight gain/low libido etc. what do?

>>4669584
Do what Vilppu did. He said he worked at a bakery to support himself. Just bake cakes!

I finally made an art account a few months back on social media and it barely got traction mostly people from uni etc then my ex roommate made one she got so much attraction from people around her even though her grasp on art is not even there at all she cant even draw a face properly without it looking like agablin but noooooooooo everyONE EVERYONE of my so called friends promoted her shit everywhere and when a few months back i asked for help they said to do it youself art is your thing we dont know what to do


and these fuckers just copy off other people's works and act so superior about it like legit 1=1 copy nothing creative not even good copies i fucking hate life being a good looking normie would make life so much more fucking easy

>>4669635
Having a hole attached to a pretty face gets you things. Leaving that aside, you can take solace in knowing many of these normies will never come close to the technical skill or level of self actualization you can if you just keep going.

I feel like I’ve improved a lot but it all still looks like shit. Is that the ultimate NGMI?

Is there a worse feeling than "I know this looks wrong but I don't know how to make it better"?

>>4669584
>chill with games
Fuck off with that shit

>>4669663
No, that means your eye is trained to see mistakes and your skills just haven't caught up yet. Whatever you've found that's wrong, do some studies to bring those skills up. When in doubt look at the fundamentals.

i always feel scared when I want to start a new drawing using mostly my imagination and not rely on references for composition
I just don't know how to compose anatomy from imagination well..

>>4669677
cope

>>4669649
>many of these normies will never come close to the technical skill or level of self actualization you can if you just keep going.
Yet, who's going to have financial success?
>the wet hole with the shittier than /beg/ drawings
or
>the non-normie who actually knows his shit
Who's going to die as a homeless first?

>>4669462
I don't want to go all Edward Snowden just to post a comment. I just want to say an opinion from my main account. The fact that this isn't even an option without risking jeopardizing your career is ridiculous

>>4669480
>get acknowledged by retards like him for being the funneh man
Don't project you bs, the fact I want to have an opinion doesn't mean I want to be a meme lord. Believe it or not people used to talk on the internet before social media and memes and it wasn't as cancerous as it is today.

And again, cancel culture to me is just an annoyance on top of the real problem, which is how unreliable social media is for getting clients. I don't care about "social media celebrity", and if I could have another way to make some dough I'd delete twitter, insta and the whole lot tomorrow.

>>4669731
Better to die trying than just lay down and get shafted. But the world is cruel

>>4669731
popular or successful doesn't imply objectively good. it's true for music, for tv shows, for movies, and obviously for traditional artwork too.

once you realise this, you stop caring about casting pearls before swine and focus on self improvement and hearing the actual critique from people you know are worth something.

I have no idea how the fuck to get started on an account to post art. I have no art friends and starting out is so awkward.

>>4669735
I don't think you should express your opinion, if you can't even read between the lines.
What do you want? Praise for having the same opinion as someone else? To boost your work?
>OMG YAAAS SO BASED ILL FOLLOW YOU AND DONATE TO YOUR PATREON
But then, i'd have to agree with the other anon.
If you want to appear professional, for getting clients, sterilize your social media.
Post your work, have your contacts in your bio and shut up.
You have no reason to "have an opinion" except for the purpose of attention, which makes you a hypocrite then.
Go the traditional way or actively try to get money for your work in another way.

>>4669756
Not what i was implying at.
Do you eat, anon?

I don't know what to do with my art.

>>4669782
same. I used to want to work for Disney but now that sounds like ass.

>>4669767
>You have no reason to "have an opinion" except for the purpose of attention
you can't be serious
do you even know what a dialogue is?
some people share their opinion because they want others to share theirs and learn from each other. It's called learning

And there is nothing to learn on social media because as soon as you share an opinion you have people jumping at your throat instead of trying to understand there's an actual human being behind that opinion and they may have their own personal experiences that have led to that opinion, instead of just being a label

I can't even say what I really think about a piece of another artist cause I'm sure if I do that they are going to cry and say "muh depression" and suddenly I'm the evil guy when I could just giving them my perspective

>>4669786
Saaame. I used to want to work for wizards doing MtG/D&D art but after what they did to Therese Nielsen along with the removal of cards they seem racist and changig D&D races and shit.. man I don't know I think my dream has been ruined. Gotta find something else to work towards, I guess.

Sometimes I just want to quit everything to just focus on drawing but parents keep pressuring me to get a job elsewhere

I literally can't stand normies anymore. It's ruined any chance I had at making regular friends or networking for my art. I already have a job, I just want to draw cartoon titty and enjoy a simple life around other people who like stuff I like.

It feels like I will never belong anywhere and never get to share something that's important to me with people who would appreciate it. I've been contemplating pretending to be a dude to post my art on social medias.

>>4669849
>having a sincere dialogue in the current year, on normie media
>being professional and making money
You have to pick one.
You can't have both.

I truly get what you mean but, Anon, most people on this godforsaken planet are godforsaken, insecure, room-temperature-IQ monkeys.
They don't give a shit about you or anyone else; just donate to their patreon and give them money. Nothing else matters to them.

I deleted all my socials because i couldn't stand the vile, pretentious trash coming out of others.
But could you tell them to shut the fuck up and shove their virtue signaling up their asses? No, of course not.

This is why fags like us come here. To actually be able to express ourselves without getting cancelled for wrongthinking or wrongwording.
You're never going to get that on twitter and etcetera.
Even here you're getting called names for saying something negative about a piece.

If you want to actually talk to people; give up, there's no people left. All sold out.

>>4669867
>>>/u/

>>4669940
I draw and this is the draw board anon, I don't know what you want from me.

>>4669867
>i draw anime titties and want to show my autistic fetishes to everyone
>"why am i not normal?"
I have share this board with retards like you.
At least do some fucking introspection about your pathetic existence.

>>4669045
Tried joining discord. Found a semi decent art discord, but Im not sure what to do. I guess I just post my stuff for critique. Just feels weird. Trying to join and established server/friend group and talking.

Also a discord user used some not to see how old my account was, 3 hours, and accused me of being a spam bot.. I freaked out and left the server.

>>4669964
>autistic fetishes
It's just a general statement to take the piss, I mostly do animation and have no interest in porn. The irony that you don't know where your image comes from and want to call other people retarded degenerates for feeling like outsiders on 4chan of all places says enough about you, just grow up and stop looking for someone to place blame on your own disgruntled feelings. Look in the mirror.

>>4669983
>no u

>>4669988
Yes, and? Talking about introspection with your eyes closed is what you're good at around here, I get it, but fucking enough already.

>>4669983
>The irony that you don't know where your image comes from
Who care about the contextual usage of an image?
>Look in the mirror
Are you? Or are you scared to see the autistic failure you really are?

I can't stop browsing warosu...
How do I get my morning back?

>>4670009
If you genuinely believed you were superior to anyone else or that the company you keep on an anonymous basket weaving forum was dragging you down, you wouldn't be in the vent thread on 4chan where half the threads on this board are shitposts about anime and porn. You aren't sharing shit, you're a visitor like everyone else. If you want to redirect whatever your frustration is at me, I don't care, but don't be disingenuine. You don't have to. Nobody knows who you are. So, what are you so upset about?

>>4669973
>Also a discord user used some not to see how old my account was, 3 hours, and accused me of being a spam bot.. I freaked out and left the server.
I mean that's pretty autistic, just say you haven't used the platform before and thought it would be a good way to meet friends and look for critique on your art. He's a weirdo for sperging out over something so minimal but freaking out and leaving definitely isn't a normal thing to do either

I thought I made it. Stupid fucking retard.

>>4670027
>WAH WAH I AM INSECURE
What is the me in your head saying to you?
Truly fascinating how your own insecurity, shame and guilt can thread a whole new and never seen narrative that you even bring out to the real world.
I want you to gtfo my board or be less retarded if you're gonna stay

>>4670015
ghost?

Anyone got any tips to dopamine detox or anything?
I love drawing but I am well addicted to other shit and need to fix it bad. I just spend my days angry I'm not drawing after wasting half of it, and the days I especially get in the zone and draw all day has me looking at my phone every 10 minutes, making me really consciously think to put it away and not get distracted - which in turn ruins the zone.
I only heard about this detox not long ago and just got told about it, though. Not sure where to begin.
Oh, also, I hate my sucky art. That too, while I'm here.

>>4670055
You got triggered over the mere idea that someone pinging the same address as you would want to draw a cartoon boob and made your own narrative based on your tard rage. I'd feel bad for you but I'm too tired of this same shit attitude everywhere for no fucking reason. Fuck you, it's not your board. Nothing worth note will ever be yours. Maybe that's why you're mad.

>>4669549
lmao the way the artist wrote is hilarious
really points out all the intellectual dishonesty in some people's arguments

>>4669948
You were complaining about how you didn't have any friends you can share your lesbian fantasies with, well there's a board chock full of older W*men seeking younger girls.

>>4670065
You know pretending to be retarded doesn't make you smart?
Nigger, your post was retarded as fuck.
>OHHH I WANNA BE FRIEND WITH THE NORMIES BUT I'M A FILTHY DEGENERATE AND I HATE NORMIES FOR NOT INDULGING IN MY AUTISM IT CLEARLY IS THEIR FAULT STOP MIRRORING MY WORDS UR JUST MAD
fuck me, how insecure can a person get?
Honestly, stop breathing forever, that may be your cure.

>>4670077
>women
To you.

>>4670085
Ok whatever dude. Bored of you now.

>>4670089
>I'm never gonna fix my problems
Stay autistic, stay ngmi, retard.
but more importantly
gtfo my board

>>4670108
Post your work, chad-kun.

>invited to cool small artist group
>hang out and talk, feel self conscious. Not socially retarded just havent had friends in years.
>leave group for a long time because of life stuff
>decide to try to have friends again
>message one of the guys on twitter
>hey whats up send me an invite next time you hang out?
>"no."

normally I feel like vent threads are retarded but I just havent had my feelings genuinely hurt in a long time. I just want a friend its been so long.

>>4670109
do you want to compare dicks that badly, omega-tard?

>>4669045
I used to instigate and bully anons on here. Now I just draw to relieve stress from my 9-5. Im still sad and angry on the inside, but now I found healthy ways to not be a piece of shit

>>4670089
No wonder you can’t find any friends. You sperg out over the slightest provocation.

>>4670118
I don't know how that's gonna work in this particular situation but maybe I could learn something from someone who's so plainly GMI.

>>4670124
Ok.

>>4670132
Being passive-aggressive doesn't count as posting your work, autismo

>>4670136
Is... that your work?

>>4670121
Wholesome. If only more d/ic/ks would just draw.

>>4670141
Yeah. Don't tell me you can't do better than that?

>>4670121

>>4669367
Hey anon I am learning Korean but aside from my textbook studies I learn it as I draw by listening to audio in Korean so if I draw for 5 hours I'll be listening to Korean the whole time have you thought about doing that

I hate the fear of failing myself when I just wanna draw some cute and funny images!

>>4670117
to be fair leaving like that is a huge breach of trust. you're apparently too retarded to understand this but i sympathize with them. it's tedious to deal with people like you because it becomes a waste of effort and time, you'll just leave again eventually next time you have some pathetic sadbrain meltdown

>>4670150
You've taught me a valuable lesson so thanks. I feel better about it all now. Hope you make it dude.

>>4670237
God, you are so pathetic.

>>4670241
How else am I supposed to respond to that

>>4670246
i post my work, you yours. retard

Why am I not doing anything with my life? Anything meaningful or important?

I have the brains to be a mathematician, I have the "soul" to be an artist, I have/had the discipline to stay on course, and the compassion to work for the people.. yet, nothing. I have zero will. Why?

>>4670344
Not going to lie, that sounds pretty narcissistic

>>4670236
bro i didnt have a meltdown i moved across the country

>>4670349

Yea but the questions stays and I really do have all of the things I mentioned.. The "soul" or artist of course can be debated and its pretentious to say so.. but I think I have some level of creativity and a message to tell people.

Just no will to do anything. All of life seems very meaningless and I have real trouble setting any target. I have no wish to go towards anything.

Sigh.. maybe I should just bring this up with my shrink, but honestly when it comes to lack of motivation and meaninglessness of life, I'd rather ask here than ask her.

I consistently feel like I'm improving, but looking at it even a few hours later, I hate it/feel like I haven't improved at all. It sucks.

>>4670406
You gotta be real, you realistically only possess one or none of these traits. You claim to have discipline, but lack motivation, discipline persists without motivation thats the point. The classic "gifted" underachiever.

Good luck i use to feel that way too but true discipline was the answer.

Nothing makes me cringe more than looking at my older works that I thought were my magnum opus

I decided to draw to distract myself from the fact that I am a no-gf no-friend person.

Not doing any work because I don't know what I want to specialize and it feels like a waste of time when I do any art.

I've done some 2D animation, 2D FX animation, illustration, character design, background design, storyboarding, concept art, prop design.

I have no idea what I enjoy more and I don't know what would be the best use of my time to focus on, my motivation has completely gone.

>>4670506

I must come off as a huge faggot, but I'm a multitalented dude. I'm in a good job, got a wife and a kid, just no cause.

Thanks for talking to me though..

I think I'd have the discipline, but for what?

All I can think of right now is having a Japanese rock garden and tending to it daily.

>>4669045
>This looks... good. I thought it was good yesterday but now I'm looking at it again and it's still good. Wow, I am actually somewhat proud of this. You know, this is great. This is my best piece. I'll post it.
>Posting... 98%
>Posted!
>Oh no it's shit. It's actually fucking shit. Look at that lol how did I fuck that u- I fucked up everything. Oh god there's not a single thing that is right. Why did I post this? AAAAAAAAAA

>>4670510
it's better than making some art that still looks way better than anything you're drawing right now and you don't even know how you did it

>>4670535
Do it all. Maybe not all at once but just try and be good at it all.

>>4670547
there should be a scientific term for this, it happened to me so many times it can't be just being retarded

I only have one close, best friend. I always shared my art with him and he always shared his writing with me. We even dated for a bit but grew apart at one point. I thought maybe we were going to get back together as he began to pursue me again... but then he flew 3k miles away to live with some girl he had just met. Sometimes he texts me about stuff, his writing, his time in a new country and I just pretend to be happy but I’m really not. We went from talking every day to once a month or so... was it my choice or his? I don’t feel jealousy or anger but just a gnawing loneliness I guess. I started posting my art online, I got a couple of followers which was nice. I joined some art groups but I don’t really know anyone and I’m not a very outgoing person. Maybe I haven’t tried hard enough. I don’t try hard with a lot of things. Some days I just sit in my backyard and watch the birds and the clouds overhead and think about how nice a garden would look if I could afford to get one started. I draw every day but it’s not very good... I don’t try hard enough. This overwhelming tiredness makes everything feel so difficult to accomplish for some reason. That’s just an excuse though.

>>4670592
It needs to be one of those German words like Schadenfreude or Weltschmerz. I'll call it Postbedauern, "post" and "regret", post meaning both post as post and post as "after".

>>4670682
Nein, in true German fashion, allow me to correct yourself on the true meaning of those words
>Schadenfreude
Common sense.
>Weltschmerz
Not wanting to work
>Postbedauern
Some made up word that wouldn't work in the German language.

>>4669045
I am at a point now where I need to take on furry commissions to afford everything I need.

>it's a "beg-tier artist keeps trying to be the big art critic and gives people shit advice" episode
i hate how fucking often this happens, especially when it comes to anatomy

>>4670618
stay strong anon

>>4669480
you probably would get banned off twitter and many of the bigger reddits for that. really puts into perspective how far gone we are.

I give up some time ago...

lurking art forums, discords, boards i found the truth; becoming a copycat. Since then i do commissions copying the most "relevant" internet artists, mangakas. there are a few one is almost mimic perfectly, even people has mistaken my drawings with the original artist work.

But a what cost? im making a lot of money, my family respect me now that they know im doing some cash but im just a shadow of others, i will never suceed with my art, always hiding on the shadow of someone bigger...

>>4670815
Sounds like you made it dude. Unless your business is based off of making style forgeries, I would worry if your drawing style was exactly like someone else's. We all do that at some point.

>>4670820
wouldn't

>>4670820
people who commission me dont want to pay 300+ usd for a commission, so they hire me to draw their ocs in the style of their favorite artists. i had never tried to impersonate them if that what you saying

>>4670827
Ah, you need to get out that situation, asap. lol Doesn't seem like a good long term solution

When did you find out you were not going to make it?
Was it a sudden event or something you realized over time?

>>4670406
Look into depression, anhedonia and apathy - that triad might be relevant to you.

I don't consider myself particularly talented at anything but I do share your condition of being someone who WANTS things but then also feels unmotivated and lacking willpower to actually PURSUE them.

>>4670711
is this you anon

>>4669620
Therapists don’t prescribe meds, psychiatrists do. And even then, they can’t _make_ you take anything. Just tell your doctor/psych that you’re not comfortable taking medication.

>>4670892
>Just tell your doctor/psych that you’re not comfortable taking medication.

I’ve lost all momentum I had this year, and have become too lazy (even brought back my bad habits). I want to be motivated again.

>private your account
>can’t even trust the friends you allow on your private account

The last time I trust anyone on here. Never again.

>>4669045
turned down all family gatherings this summer to work on Tezuka submissions
i feel like such a piece of shit but i also don't really have time to even do that
i hope i'm gmi

>>4669567
I told you silence is violence, anon.

Also don't think past convos and private messages are safe. We will find them and expose the nazi rapists.

>>4670917
Lmao. I told mine I didn't want meds at all if possible and would try anything before that point and she was cool with it. Nobody can force meds on you unless you're in a psych ward or jail.

>>4670926
>trusting any of the greedy narcissists lurking this shithole
s'your own fault

>>4669045
>Quarantine is slowly being lifted here
>Work still closed since they can't abide by quarantine rules
>Can't get a job because I'm not qualified for shit
>The shitty entry jobs are all taken, everyone is scrambling to get them. Can't even get a call back about anything
>Open commissions
>Nobody has money to commission me, people keep asking for freebies because "due to corona I don't have money and I deserve free commissions to cheer me up, it's not like it costs you anything to make it anyways"
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH BITCH I GOTTA EAT FUCK OFF AAAAAAHHHHH

>>4671020
draw titties
porn addicts always have money for titties

I'm only stepping into my third week of drawing but it's already getting harder and harder by the day to actually make myself draw, like it's not the fact that I'm scared or that I'm bad that's making me want to give up, it's just I feel like I'm not even interested in it anymore even though I haven't actually gotten anywhere yet.

>>4671053
If you don't want to do it, and have no long-term goal or investment in it, then don't do it. Don't be too hard on yourself. Life is too short and drawing is a big time sucker

>>4671054
I do have a long-term goal; I really want to be able to make good-looking art, and that's what's making me force myself to keep at it now. But in the short-term holy shit there's no interest at all.

>>4670994
OK two questions: are you female, and is your doctor a woman? If doctors say they can solve your issue without meds you probably don't have an issue at all, aka you have meme depression. Mine told me to stop coming unless I wanted to sign up for their little program and even told me I was classified as "distrustful toward professionals" when I never had a problem with doctors and had been taking the shit they gave me and did what they told me to until it started to fuck with my life. Also both women. I don't mind women doctors in other fields but I'll avoid female shrinks at all costs, they really have a different brain and they can't even think that something worse than meme depression exists.

>>4669045
I keep trying to do fundies but nothing looks realistic so I go back to drawing shit in an anime style because it's easier for me.

How the fuck people draw while having to go to work? After work muh feet are so sore and im too tired to do art and when i wake up i have barely time to do art and rather do something else than art.

>>4669045
Whenever somebody posts "Blog?" I immediately assume it's just that anon samefagging himself to promote his own blog.

>>4671189
No, I've asked before myself. Instead I get jealous now. Not having anyone to ask you for a blog makes you realize you're a worthless artist.

it is very difficult to do. You're burned out and have no energy, but if it is something you really want to do, you have to. I look forward to weekends when I can finally have full energy to do personal work

>>4671189
>>4671200
You can pretty much tell when it's a samefag. Utterly unremarkable work here gets "Wow, so appealing. Blog?" replies all the time. Pretty obvious when you think about it.

>>4671189
>post some mediocre shit I made in /beg/
>get multiple replies asking me for a blog
I'm pretty sure it's like 50% samefags, 40% shitposters making fun of people, and 10% sincere people.

>>4671218
I ask people for their blog frequently. theres some good shit in /beg/

>>4670926
The fuck happened?

>>4669352
nver ever

Working on painting commissions is making my drawing regress. I’m not actually good at painting per se, so they take almost all day, leaving so little time for drawing I’m forgetting fundies. This is probably my lowest point in a while. Intrusive thoughts, psychosis, waking up feeling like I’ve just died etc. don’t help

More than anything I’m just burnt out. My brain has become incredibly dull thanks to stress and there’s nothing I can do to sharpen it

>>4669045
Mental illness.JPG

>>4671200
If that can be of any consolation, the guy who asks you for your blog is usually one of
>~xXx.S3PH1R0TH.xXx~ who's probably 13 years old and likes just about everything that is above kindergarten tier.
>CoomerMan69 whose entire favorites gallery is inflation porn and you ask yourself "why the fuck does this person with horrible taste like my work?"
>A random guy who wants free art of his OC
>Also xXx.S3PH1R0TH.xXx but he's not 13, he's a 47 year old mentally ill man who wants to make friends with you and wants you to look at his unintelligible comic
>0.1% chance - one guy with no posts and nothing else who is crazy about your work and actually cares but you have no idea who or what he is and maybe he's not human
And the only person to add you when you post blog is the one person who asked and nobody else.

>>4671200
>1 year ago
>Post extremely shitty art
>Get one reply asking for blog, probably ironic and just making fun of me
>Don't have a blog
>One year in
>Slightly less shit
>Actually have a blog now
>No one ever asked again
This is ok however, I'm certainly at no level where people would be honestly interested in my art or my journey. So far I'm just yet another shitter, but I'm working hard to go beyond this. Truth is if you're all around unimpressive like me don't expect people to care about you just because you've feelings, people will only care about you once you get good and you shouldn't care about those people, learn to value all the true frends you met along in the journey that valued you despite being just an unlikely promise.

I think about suicide so often and so casually I'm worried that I might start mentioning it to other people
I open my eyes in the morning and by the time I'm having coffee I'm already thinking I should off myself. It's all so incredibly tiring. It's like that comedy video of the killer who slowly hits you with a spoon until you've completely given up

I'll never create an image as powerful as the BLM black square.

>>4671812
imagine wasting 27 thousand bytes on a stupid black square. png can do it in 294 bytes. svg can do it in 106 bytes.

>>4671585
Blog?

>>4671820
I'll be happy to provide it when asked for it when I post my work.

>>4671585
The people around these parts are jerks like that. Mocking you with false compliments, like the assholes who tell you you’re too good for /beg then laugh at you if you believe them.
I hope all you have loved ones who die horribly.

>>4669045
I get really fucking stuck when I'm drawing. Like if this one arm looks wrong I will erase it and try to draw it again repeating the same mistake. Then I repeat this loop for a few hours.
Anything that can help get me out of this rut??

>>4671874
I know exactly what you mean, however I try to kill two birds with one stone. If I improve and manage to become a good artist and make it I will permanently make all the crabs seethe. Even if making it is the best reward in itself, living a fullfilling life being successful at your passion is enough to buttblast the crabs to infinity, while they permanently are stuck in their own personal hell wasting their lives trying to drag people into hell as well just because they weren't able to fight for their dreams. There is also the chance I might never make it, but as long as I keep putting hard work on a daily basis I tilt the odds a little in my favor despite having all the anti-talent in the universe.

I can't fucking draw straight lines or perfect circles no matter how much I practice. I'm considering just going with the line and oval tool

>>4671893
I suppose there’s that “living a good life is the best revenge” philosophy. But i would also be happy if all you retards got raped to death by packs of feral niggers.

>>4671893
I had the same thoughts and I failed and it hurt so fucking much. I hope you'll make it anon.

>>4669045
Happy vent. I made a post on the last thread about how much I missed my buddy and was lacking creativity to draw anything.
After that, I started practicing perspective and it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be, I even made a drawing from memory with a hard pose I had in mind and it came out looking pretty good.
Even better, my friend talked to me yesterday. They're okay. Sadly, I couldn't answer their message when they were still online, but they tend to get active at night so I'm hoping we can get back to talking regularly and show them the new porn I made of a favorite character we have in common. I'm very excited to show them and see their reaction, I hope they like it.
I'm getting stressed about family stuff and staying home, but drawing keeps me going and I have more time to progress.
Have a good day anons. :)

>>4672047
Christ. Ignore the pic kek.

>>4671020
>Nobody has money to commission me
Funny enough corona hasn't affected my commissions at all

I looked up a friend of mine from Jr. High who was an artist. Would it be creepy for me to reach out to him, considering we haven’t talked in ... 27 years?

>>4672086
yes

>>4672086
No, not really. Lots of people reach out to old acquaintances on facebook, twitter, etc. Not like you were stalking him for the last 27 years

>>4672047

>>4671602
i mean i did mention it to my friends and they told me "if you really wanted suicide you'll commit it rather than trying to get attention"


hmmm suicide is weird life is weird annon im in the same boat people tell you to reach out but no one fucking cares thye just want to be the "nice one" because oh nooo i told them to reach out now their DEAD

dont commit suicide dude you're gonna die anyways and theres so much things to do....

>>4671602
from my own experience, just don't take the intrusive thoughts too seriously. when you start ruminating, catch yourself and listen to some good music, go for a walk, cycling etc.
also try to break out of behaviours that are making you miserable by changing your environment and making it difficult for yourself to change back. I got rid of twitter and unsubscribed from a lot of political content, for instance.

>>4671602

If you're Brian you should definitely follow up on that thought.

>>4672376
>>>/twitter/
just fucking sue the guy and stop gossiping you cancel cancer cunt

>>4672086
Nope. Someone from HS just added me not so long ago. I'm in my 30s.

>>4669045
I'm so fucking shit at art the only good thing I can accomplish are just pages of shitty ~quirky~ 20 second doodles that just look like cutesy kindergarden scribbles and that market is way oversatured already FUUUUUUUUUUCK I should have stayed in school and at least gotten a meme degree

Can't stick to a fucking plan, I'm ngmi.

fucking sick of people forcing thigh gaps when they draw actually fat legs. It just fucking looks stupid, thick legs don't leave a gap open for your stupid fucking cock

Why is everyone so vicious? I can't go into twitter without seeing a someone is cancelled party trending hashtag or some other stupid petty thing. I want art friends so bad, but it's so hard when even trying to joke about non-racial non-gender things might make people angry.

>>4672453
>non-racial non-gender
Only someone swimming in privilege would think it’s possible to avoid discussing these things. I hope you get canceled you filthy straight cis white male piece of shit. HAVE SEX!

>>4672453
same, I miss forum culture.
the little chat plugin at the top of the sites, the semi-private skype groups where sometimes you'd get some random idiot cracking the password and trolling the voice chat. those were the days.

>>4672461
so do i. now 90% of the internet is 4 big websites, each reposting screenshots of the other 3. good luck separating your shit without running into captcha hell, shadow bans, or just messing up because it's so annoying.

>>4672461
Girls from the myspace days used to be based desu.

>>4672469
Yep, when we had smaller sites we actually knew the mods, we could talk out our differences with eachother, and if they started powertripping and enforcing retarded rules the community would simply migrate to another site under new leadership. It was self-regulating and organic, and that gave it a lot of soul.

>>4671602
I'd say, do it.
There is no point in trying to live in a world that doesn't want you.
Being here and talking about it is the ultimate proof that the world has rejected you.
It's only going to get much worse.
You will start mentioning it to people, maybe by joking around or at every opportunity you get.
You will start waking up and wanting to scream at the top of your lungs.
You will start to feel incredibly tired.
You will start have moments of unyielding rage but you won't bother letting it out but those are the only moments you will feel any emotion.
Don't listen to the retards who say "don't do it"
They don't know shit and are saying it to wash their hands from any guilt they might develop because they only care about themselves.
You get one chance.
If you screw it up, it only going to get much more worse. You're maybe going to hurt your family or your real friends, if they care, but let's be honest, nobody cares about defective merchandise.
Do it, Anon.
May you be blessed with 72 big titties anime girls once you reach NEET heaven.
I'll follow soon.

Fuck everything. If everyone is going to hide from the SJWs and bend to them instead of speaking their minds and telling them they're pieces of shit then fuck it.

Let's go, civil war time. Fuck everything.

>>4672606
thats racist
go to jail

>>4672606
>civil war
neck yourself

>>4672610
it hasn't come to that just yet. that's why the mob tries to cancel you by making you a social outcast. they don't have the institutional power to drag people off to labor camp for criticising the party yet.

>>4672614
You dont have to be so anti semitic about it, you fuckin white male

>>4672615
lol, sue me :^)

>>4672606
What I don't get is the lack of alternative movie, vidya, music industries out there. The demand is obviously fucking there.

>>4672614
btw, it's funny how much leftist terminology I've adopted over the years, and how much more obvious it has become that ideologues are usually just throwing those words around without comprehension.

Honestly, I don't even have a problem with whatever people believe. Just fucking leave me alone. I don't think that's much to ask. I don't care about any causes, just let me draw and post that in peace.

>>4672631
No, comform to my dogma or be treated as an enemy

>>4672610
>>4672613
No. You'll see when it comes anyways. When it happens are you going to hide away and say "oh no I'll do what you want just leave me alone" or are you going to tell them to fuck off?

>>4672614
Everyone's so afraid of getting cancelled so they cave in. You know what people used to do? You say "ok fuck you eat a dick" and you go start your own company with people that aren't crazy retards.
As >>4672620 said, the demand is there. Good, fuck those losers and fill that demand.

>>4672615
Not me. And you're racist. Not that it matters but I'm a Native American woman.

>>4672631
Thats how most people think. Just keep giving in to them until they're at your door because you've been silent and "silence is compliance/agreement". When they go after you then, what are you going to do? Will you say and do whatever they want because you want to be left alone? You going to be one of those "I was just following orders" people? Hah. Yeah see how well that goes, have fun being miserable because you won't stand up for yourself just like everyone else.

>>4672605
you almost convinced me until you mentioned anime

the truth is I haven’t drawn at all since she left me a few months ago and since then I was shitposting in threads. I only hid because I was both ashamed that I couldn’t draw anymore and I wanted to hide that I wasn’t hurt. But I was.

I have finally moved on from it though and I will watch you close but far.

>>4672673
nigga, if you try to make your own website and it's deemed ideologically suspicious you get de-listed from google search, comments on mainstream sites that link your content are de-prioritized and made invisible, your host might decide to drop you over political controversy at any time and you will absolutely get doxxed and harrassed.
and how are you going to finance your business? google will pull all ads from your site, patreon and kickstarter won't "enable" you, paypal won't let the payments go through even if you have an independent funding service, and even if you popularize a paypal alternative, the banks can still shut it down if it's used to fund "dangerous radicals" with impunity.
TL;DR: shit's fucked.

>>4672685
My motor ability also has deteriorated to a crawl so I’m just going to pretend that I never drew in my life.

>>4672689
If everyone fought it instead of sitting on their asses then it wouldn't happen anymore. That's illegal to discriminate against people for what they say and believe in. Funny that a lawsuit-happy country suddenly doesn't want to stand up for themselves on something they could definitely win.

>>4672673
Stop pretending to be retarded.
The only thing that's native about you is your penis.
Go be anti satanist somewhere else, goy

>>4672016
What do you mean you failed? If you are alive you can always keep trying. I fail basically every single day.

>>4672675
more big titty anime girls for me then

>>4672689
freenet. monero.

>>4672689
That's why the commonfolk used to never talk politics outside political emergencies or situations.
Now everyone and their dogs is about Identity politics.
>OHHH IM SUCH A COMMUNIST ANARCHIST Y DOES EVERYTHING COST MOENY LANGUAGE THAT DISAGREES WITH ME IS BAD AND SHOULD B ILLEGAL NON-WHITES CAN DO NO WRONG LET THEM COMMIT CRIMES IN PEACE PLS POLICE HELP ME A BL-PROBABLY WHITE SLAVE OWNER IS SEXUALLY HARRASSING ME
or
>OHHH IM SUCH A RIGHT WING NATSOC ANCAP I HATE PEOPLE CUZ THEYR NOT LIKE HAHA THE JUICE RITE LIZARD PPL N SHIT I FUKEN LOV MONEH BUT THE JUUS RITE WHY CANT I SAY NIGGER IN PUBLIC
Grow the fuck up. It's all about money.
Nobody gives a shit what you believe or what's right. Since anything deemed offensive to the normal cattle doesn't sell and there are literally marketing teams influencing and engineering the opinions of the consumers, you get this.
Even fucking communists try to sell you t-shirts.
You'd be living like cattle
>wake up
>shit
>go to work
>maybe eat
>breed to create more cattle
>go to sleep
if there weren't laws preventing these rich psychopaths from doing it.

ah, wait a sec...

>>4672853
>Since anything deemed offensive to the normal cattle doesn't sell and there are literally marketing teams influencing and engineering the opinions of the consumers, you get this.
Those companies are losing money because they cater to woke idiots and most of the population is not like that. They hate that shit. But nobody will leave and nobody will speak up and say "hey this idea sucks and it won't sell" because they're too afraid of losing their shitty job

>>4672882
comcast, activison, and sony to name a few, are losing money?

>>4669546
don't be disingenuous, it takes way more less than that to be cancelled.

>>4669045
I have zero imagination. I can never come up with an idea to draw so I always have to ask for requests, and even when I do get them, I struggle to come up with compositions and always go for shit that's extremely boring and stiff.
How the fuck do I remedy this.

>>4672892
Gillette catered to SJWs in an effort to beat out DSC and Harry's and lost $5.24 billion.
Dick's Sporting Goods lost $150 million due to restricting gun sales and advocating for gun control laws.
Netflix spends over $12 billion per year on original content and keeps losing subscribers from the obvious agenda in their originals being shoved down their throats.
By Activision I'm guessing you're referring to Activision Blizzard who just lost $20 million.
Comcast loses 1.7 subscribers per minute, they normally make $1000/year per subscriber. Oof. They're trying to make up the loss with Flex but I don't think that can save them.
Sony is bleeding money and has been for years, the only thing keeping them afloat is game console sales.

>>4672967
>i don't know shit but lemme tell u of negative numbers cuz negative numbers bad
Those companies might lose money in the short run, but do you seriously think anybody but autists will remember their wokeness after a few months.
What matter is if they can keep the doors open
Do you not know shit else about how money, the economy and the companies work?
If a company is about to go bankrupt and must shut down, an investor can swoop in and save the company.
That's how they've been running banks for ages.
Get it through your thick skull; nothing but what sells fucking matters. You're cattle.

>>4672954
try excercising your creativity little by little. if you can't just find a way to turn your brain off and draw, try drawing anything around you, then redraw it and make it unique until you can come up with unique things on your own from the start. you can just make different versions of something to excercise your creativity too.
you can also try drawing something random and then give it a reason to be there, try to create and flesh out a vignette by adding more in and around it. craft your own fragment of a universe for a moment. eventually you can start planning things from the start and keep things like composition in mind to build up entire original scenes and the like.

>>4672882
Companies have the data to plan long term, they see much further than you or me ever will.

I'm so god damn sick of the retards on here or anywhere else online who just ask for help and get an answer and decide hmmm huhhhh that wasn't good enough of an answer so I'm just going to sit here with one thumb in my ass and the other in my mouth until someone comes over and pops it out and takes my hand and draws for me. how do i draw like this how do i soul wow how did this artist get so good haha i could never how do i how howho come the fuck on. art isn't the same as math and science where you go to the back of the textbook and there are the answers for all the odd-numbered problems spelled out for you. I'm so god damn sick of the fucking losers who beat around vague concepts to look smart and hardworking when really they do jack fucking shit, because they're one of those lazy bitches wanting to be spoonfed everything down to what to think like a fucking infant, because they're one of those shitheads who want to be an artist but don't want to actually sit down and fucking draw. JUST FUCKING DRAW HOLY SHIT JUST FUCKING PUT DOWN SOME GOD DAMN FUCKING LINES HOLY FUCKING JESUS CHRIST alright I'm ok now

>>4673059
Ngmi

>>4672882
Are you actually stupid? No seriously do you have any idea how a business is run?

>>4673059
Ok anon I'll draw haha but how do you "just sit down and draw" though? Do you have recommendations for pencils? My kneaded eraser hasn't arrived from amazon yet. Is acid-free paper necessary? What kind of desk do I need for the best results and should I find a desk lamp or a floor lamp? Does mood lighting matter? Would a bad chair affect my productivity? What sort of floor should I get in case my pencil falls so it doesn't break that also stands up to wear and tear of my chair shuffling? Unless I should be standing? Where did you order your orthopedic drawing shoes anon? I already have compression socks for programming so hopefully those are good for drawing too. Thanks anon!

>>4673004
that's actually a decent idea, I'm still curious about how do you go from coming with interesting compositions and proper values and more or less realistic scenes (light and shadow wise at least), I've seen some artists just pick up a random photo, flip it around and create shapes out of that, that's a pretty interesting approach to work from, but there's also color, lol. I always fuck up that part so hard. I wish I could figure out how to use saturation properly in shadows or mid values, it always seems like an accident.

>>4673087
kek

>>4673087
>orthopedic drawing shoes

>>4673059
If anything I'm sick of vague or contradictory advice being predicated left and right here and everywhere else. Seems everyone either wants you to buy something or see you fail. I've stopped asking questions altogether since looking back all the answers given on things I'm able to handle now were outright wrong either by ignorance or malice and I made progress the moment I stopped listening to them. I've got only ONE good piece of advice from here which I still treasure to this day and practice daily and which is no different knowledge from what you find in the actual worthwhile books being shared constantly (aka any of them except Loomis)

>>4670853

Thanks man but we aren't the same I think...

I don't WANT anything. If I wanted to, could PURSUE them I feel but I want nothing, I feel nothing, I lack nothing..

Just a little sad for my son having this kind of a dad.

>>4673114
what kind of bad advice you've got? aside from Loomis? people use it as a meme but if you're trying to learn construction and then anatomy it has its place, but it'd be completely useless to practice only that if you're hungry for more knowledge, doing autistic exercises over and over for long periods does work for some but not for everybody, there are ways to handle it. But that's beside the point, what was the advice? If you are going to shit on everyone here at least share something useful you've got from being here.

>>4673087
(You)

>>4671020
u have the wrong audience or git gud, sounds like u have choosing beggars
if anything i got more commissions due to corona lmao

>>4669053
That ain’t a bad feel tho, that’s dope.
>>4669052
You gotta write a plan down sometimes and implement that shit brother, listen to some smooth jazz and work on the cylinders. Hard to say sometimes, but ADHD is a wrench in the works, so if you have a real ass need, get some meds for that, works for me at least.

I fucked up one part of inking in my watercolor a little bit and it's driving me craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy

>>4673296
I'm just starting out on commissions and don't have many followers. The ones I do have are apparently little leeches that don't understand what a commission is

>>4673335
Redo it.

>>4673335

are you a girl or a dude

i cant tell but your post made me lol

>>4672047
>they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they
>phone screenshot
When parody becomes reality. What do you even draw for your fursonas' genitalias, joker cards?

I didn't know art was so robotic.
Cubes, spheres, perspective lines. And all the autistic measurements you have to do.
It's like Geometry all over again, and I hated Geometry as a kid.
All the magic and intuitiveness of art is dead to me now.
Whoever can withstand this level of autism, good job, best of luck to you.
I don't care. I don't care anymore.
I'm quitting, burning all my sketchbooks and never coming back.

>>4673703
Draw intutively then faggot.
You won't because you are just looking for excuses as to why you suck.

>>4673703
lmao

>>4673728
I won't because drawing sucks and I hate it.
I've been drawing intuitively my whole life before I started to take it "seriously" and it got me nowhere.
No reason to be so defensive over your precious art autism. Let people vent in the vent thread

>>4673312
Thanks. I should make a plan, I gotta dig out my bullet journal wherever it is, I was gonna start making tons of schedules and lists and then forgot about it.
Idk if I have ADHD but I am worried and am thinking about getting checked out

Pissed myself awake with a nightmare. It's 4 AM. Guess I'll go draw.

This woman I ghosted on Saturday keeps texting me back after I ghosted her and I’m having ptsd panic attacks. She thinks I’m underage and wants to screw me because I said something from a hentai that made me sound younger than I am. A legit pedo woman. I even asked her if she likes big dicks and she said she likes small dicks.

>>4673897
I could just block her number but the last time I blocked a woman’s number I got death threats and repeated spam. I’m afraid of women now.

>>4673897
>>4673899
Maybe if you tell her the truth, she'll stop pursuing you?

>>4673918
I did tell her my real age already but she refuses to believe me. You know what I’ll just change my number.

>>4673897
What a lucky guy, man I'm envious. I have to admit the whole premise of triggering stalker feelings on a girl by using doujin lines is comedy gold however

>>4673920
It's true love man. You ghosted her and she still likes you.

For the past 6 months I rarely left my house, even my room, went down to 52 kilos and slept like 12 hours daily drawing once or twice per week. I finally getting my weight back despite not changing diet, my muscles are returning and I'm going for a walk almost daily and drawing all the free time. What the fuck was that?

>>4674037
you were depressed

>>4674037
>drawing all the free time
How do I be like you

>>4674138
The secret is, I'm unemployed.

I'm a self taught artist and just learned recently you're not suppose to draw with your wrist. After 2 years of doing this, my wrist is now fucked. I don't think it's hurts enough to see a doctor yet(especially in these times), but i haven't been able to do anything with it without feeling a tightening feeling on the top. And I was just beginning to have fun too... Now i'm bored lying around the house with a brace on. Any tips on getting it better quickly?

>>4674223
>you're not suppose to draw with your wrist
false information

>>4674260
How so?

>>4673897
>She thinks I’m underage and wants to screw me because I said something from a hentai that made me sound younger than I am.
what did you say? please, I have to know.

>>4674268
There's nothing wrong with drawing with your wrist. Especially when you work with small details.

I just want art friends but they keep dropping off because they can't handle the grind of making art

>>4674363
socializing is a grind in its own right desu, and when in doubt I drop my friends before I drop art. I think I might be a bit of an asshole.

>>4674372
Most of the people I've interacted with can't balance their lives. They can't put away their distractions, turn their phones off or log out of a chat program for a bit to do their work then come socialise for a bit. It's all or nothing really which I get cause I've been there but when I give advice it falls on deaf ears. You don't need to shut out everything you like and your friends permanently to get better at art. Learn moderation

i really fucking hate doing commissions

My family's fortune really turned around.

I was afraid for a long time that I had to return to coomershit to support my family if the pandemic lasted for too long. However, ever since his long-term business partner offered to buy his firm for a generous price, and the rest of my family finally securing their new jobs and new roofs over their heads, I can finally close that old chapter in my life for good.

It's like a great weight had finally been lifted off my shoulders.

>>4674493
good for you

>>4669431
how have you lost interest in everything anon

I LOVE GLENN VILPPU

im starting to think drawing never was fun, so why do i draw? i dont know..

>>4674720
Drawing IS fun. snap out of it

sure thing jannies, keep deleting threads about artists getting cancelled left and right. not like it's relevant for people who are trying to make a living through art. nope. unlike the thread about a badly restored painting that clearly belongs on /his/.

I only recently made an Instagram account and it seems like I got fucking shadowbanned for who knows what. I checked and recent works don't show in hashtags, I knew shit smells fishy when after sudden boom I got no likes from strangers at all. Tell me bros, will it pass after 2 weeks?

>>4674774
Mods are trannies

i draw every day for about 4 - 5 hours, trying to draw more than that but eventually my brain hitting a roadblock, i hate everything i make, i dont feel like im making progress, i might give up and just become some doomer with a dead end job
i also despise this website and all those who inhabit, you're all terrible awful human beings and i dont understand how some of you can be so cruel to other human beings just existing

HEY MODS, KNOW WHAT? FUCK YOU. YOU'RE PROBABLY SOME ASS MAD LEFTY SCUM YOURSELVES, AM I RIGHT? FUCK. YOU. MODS. FUCK YOU MOMS. FUCK YOUR DADS. FUCK YOUR DOGS. FUCK YOUR GOLD FISH. FUCK YOUR GRANNY. FUCK YOUR GRANDPA. YOU UTTER FUCKING FAGOTS.

>>4674774
You understand the solution is to make a more general thread about the industry/fear of getting cancelled, and not just a thread about Noah, right? Stop naming specific artists in the OP post you dumbfucks.

>pick up book about drawing people
>directed towards absolute beginners
>starts off with heads just being circles with lines
>then neck
>torso, legs, arms
>all just single lines. kinda like a stick figure
>okay... this is alright
>reference some poses
>imagine some of my own
>next chapter
>time to move on to a more advanced figure
>adds a jaw to head
>kinda sloppy but I'll work on it
>now ribcage
>yeah just draw an egg with a circle where the neck is gonna go
>can't do it
>why can't I do it?
>why?

>>4675026
Learning with formulas and cliches will never get you anywhere. You HAVE to observe the real thing. That includes studying the bones, muscles, and fat. Do lots and lots of figure drawing. Use Hampton or Vilppu's book to guide you, but only as a guide, never as the thing you're primarily drawing from.

>>4675026
Too advanced for you right now. Practice form. Draw simple forms and fruit still life.

>>4669045
im scared of spend a lot of time and effort and years with this and still dont improve, i have seen it with other people

my god, all the fucking /trad/chads around here were absolutely right, as a digitalfag who wanted to try painting something nice with actual, solid paint I've been filtered hard trying to understand how the fuck I'm supposed to blend anything or control the opacity on shit that dries either too fast or too slow without having my colors get FUCKING MUDDY, following color wheels and charts to try to prevent it and everything just looks like a terrible fucking disaster anyway, I have no idea how I'm supposed to control my brushes or deal with brush angles and despite waiting for layers to dry before adding new ones things still end up streaky and disgusting, not even in that aesthetic painterly way. I feel like I've already ruined my brushes just by not cleaning anything well enough or I guess not even knowing how to because I always find dry paint lodged up into the bristles after I thought they were okay to set to dry, making it even harder to control anything next time, how the fuck am I supposed to erase a mistake when everything stains, my god do I fucking HATE painting, this shit isn't intuitive to me at all.
at least watercolor's been fun in the past, solid paint is just an absolute nightmare and makes me want to off myself

>>4670547
i do that all the time, actually posted this piece the other day and i didnt feel like investing any more time in to it, but every time i see it i cant help but notice how i can make it better and i want to hop on and work on it more but i allready fucking posted it aaaaaaaaaagh

>>4674724
thanks anon, i decided to try something new and had fun :)

WHY IS THERE NO SIMPLE GUIDE THAT GOES

>WATCH THESE SPECIFIC VIDEOS
>READ THESE SPECIFIC BOOKS
>IN THIS ORDER AND YOU WILL BE DECENT

Instead we have to piece together several tutorials and guides and lectures and essentially figure it out.

>if you can learn to cook you can learn to draw

THEN TREAT IT AS SUCH AND DON'T GIVE ME THIS PERSONAL JOURNEY BS

Fucking shit, I blame this entirely on artists being shit at anything not related to art. Its no wonder you dumb fucks get exploited in the business world.

>>4675415
Step 1. Go to art center website or fzd website
Step 2. Look at their curriculums
Step 3. Download tutorials or pay out of pocket to match those schools, CGMA or Gnomon or Illustration Academy

Congratulations you have a step A to Z

>>4675415
Lol the newfag is FUMING hahaha

You guys have been given guides on exactly what books and videos to do but nobody ever wants to do it because it's hard.

How do you guys avoid burnout? I’ll often have a week where I just draw like mad because I feel like I’m making huge progress, then I’ll struggle and force myself to draw properly for a while after, and the cycle continuously repeats

>>4675433
just remember to have fun anon, you're having fun aren't you?

>>4669352
>hasnt carved his wife from ivory yet

>>4675444
Yes, although sometimes I get frustrated. I’ll admit part of the problem is when I start to lose interest, I’ll spend more time shitposting online and watching YouTube. I know I need to cut back on that shit

>>4675415

>>4670927
dont beat yourself up, i turn down all family gatherings and i then dont do anything

I hate doubting myself every time I think about doing digital art or making a comic I always doubt myself every fucking step of the way, I fucking hate this feeling

Despite practicing memory drawing I find myself unable to draw anything I want unless I heavily use a massive amount of references and even so the results are terrible, I feel like a massive failure every single day.

I'm tired of doing vilppu but I have to push on

I need to actively think about every hand movement, every shape, every object, keep checking perspective. Fail at all that because it's impossible.

And then I check some schmuck who sits down draws perfect picture, perfect lines in shapes on top of a perfect form. And right there I want to kill myslef.

How do I deal with envy, anons?

i am always focused properly when im drawing and this tires me in the long run. when i let go of my focus to relax, shitty ideas are unfiltered and they tarnish my artwork, making me feel bad about myself because of the time i wasted over the shitty idea. furthermore, i start to get demotivated because of it and in return, i usually stop drawing it. i want to get into a flow wherein i dont focus that much at all and maintain consistency.

>>4676561
stop watching any of those speedpainting videos, especially those were they are just blogging and talking inane shit and whining about fucking up a detail when they're extremely good, it triggers anyone that is not interested in that shit but the technique.
Look for tutorials and research about your specific problem until you correct it or at least takes you out of your butthurt state.

No one has ever believed in me, and I stopped believing in myself not so long ago. My last resort is drawing doodles who believe in me, I like to think that through them there is still a small part of me that believes in me even if art is a non stop stream of massive failures, constant struggle, not a single victory and filled with impossibles even after 2 years.

everything and everyone has been putting me on edge these days. soon I'm going to snap and say something stupid and regrettable, fuck. but at the same time I hate being so pent up all the time

>>4676637
just ghost everybody, it will let you seethe in solitude but you'll come through in the end

>>4676637
ya, it's difficult to focus on your own thing when the whole world around you seems to be going crazy.

yep, I knew this was gonna happen

phew that was a close one

AAAH YOU HAVE TO DRAW TILL YOUR FINGERS BLEED HARD WORK HARD WORK GRIND GRIND GRIND LOOMIS CUBES SPHERES PERSPECTIVE LINES ANATOMY STUDY 10000 HOURS A DAY PRACTICE MINIMUM OH GOD IM GONNA DROOOOOOOOW

motherfucking vilppu is making me draw 100 pages of motherfucking rats

motherfucker

I can’t fucking find a job. I am this close to ending it holy fucking shit I can’t do this anymore my mum recently had an aneurysm and everything’s fucked, she takes her anger out on me not being able to find a job or doing anything with my life, my dad too, I’m trying, I’m really trying, I do what I can around the house and clean and make dinners to make things easier for my parents but I just feel hopeless, getting out of bed is hard and that makes them even angrier and frustrated with me
My art degree did nothing for me, I can’t find a retail job or just working in a factory I get nothing but rejections from the art industry. My dreams are dead. I can’t believe I was stupid enough to put myself into debt for something I couldn’t make a career out of
I am a waste of life and I wish I was never born

>>4677412

Bull shit, just have your dad pretend to be your previous boss and write on your resume you worked for a bullshit pretend business and a low income retail place will hire you.

They don't do background checks they way you think they do. Getting a job is all about lying.

>>4677418
But I understand where you're coming from as I been there for years. What I was doing wrong was I was telling the truth.

I had no experience with the real world and I was led to beleive I must tell the truth to get a job. I came to the conclusion you must lie on everything; your years of experience, your qualifications, your references--lie until you get what you want.

Unless you're going for a high salary position this is the way things work. Fedex is always hiring btw.

>>4677426
Thanks anon, I really appreciate the advice a whole lot. I will sincerely do anything at this point as long as I am paid for it and can stop being a worthless parasite on my parents and leave them alone. I’ve been trying to get my drivers licence and finish my lessons but testing isn’t back yet here after the ‘Roma, so jobs that are far away from my semi-rural area and aren’t accessible by bus routes I’m fucked for. I’d gladly do a night sorting postal facility job even if I couldn’t drive. I apply to everything I think I can even possibly do. The fact that you have to lie to get your foot in the door as you say is incredibly frustrating as someone who has probably been far too forthcoming and honest during interviews, I always thought candour was something that was appreciated, but evidently not. This world just feels backwards

>>4677459
*‘rona

>>4677459
>so jobs that are far away from my semi-rural area and aren’t accessible by bus routes I’m fucked for

Yeah having to take the bus over having your own car can suck. Especially now that it's summer it's gonna be hot and you end up becoming sweaty before you get to your job.

You can try studying interview questions but in reality the person interviewing you just wants to finish up and go back to talking with their friends. All they're looking for is to see if you can hold a conversation and are someone they wouldn't mind seeing everyday. You might have luck with this you might not.

>>4677352
Just draw one giant rat

>>4669867
>I've been contemplating pretending to be a dude to post my art on social medias.
>It's ruined any chance I had at making regular friends or networking for my art
>can't make friends or network despite having a vagine
I think you have bigger issues than you're telling us, big guy.

>>4670236
I want tumblr to go and stay go

>>4673452
I think the non binary bullshit it's silly and just exists so people can make themselves look interesting, but I respect my buddy's ideals so whatever.
And the phone screenshot... Okay yeah, you can make fun of me for that, fair. I was embarrassed too when I noticed I posted it.

I just bought CSP almost a week ago. I draw great but paint terrible. I got a little moody about it and it made me think this is a human issue.
We want the magic potion that will solve our problems, for me it was making the jump to digital art. But not a lot of people want to take the months to get to that perfect point. It's why there's like 90 "HOW DO I DRAW!? NO I'M NOT READING THE STICKY!" threads every year. I am not satisfied with my artwork's color values/rendering and I want to be like one of my inspirations, Seth McGhee, but then I remember that when I 1st discovered his art, it was more flat and his digital coloring was very novice. Everyone has to start somewhere, I even look at my 2013 art & know that I'm moving up. But every single day I have moments like a janky mess, but I need to trust in the process. To have faith in the fruition

>>4677960
At the very least you have half of the battle won as well as a track record of progress to actually realize the process work. I have no progress yet 2 years wasted and I just can't have faith in the process or hope for fruition anymore, I feel awfull all the time yet cannot quit

I feel like I'm dogshit and don't deserve to be happy and am better off dead sometimes.

>>4670926
I only trust people that I can physically access.