/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4667861
It's fun from the start, ngmi.

When you let it be.

>>4667866
This.

>>4667861
If you can't make art for yourself then how do you expect you'll be able to make art for other people?

My bro you need to mix up fundies and drawing from imagination.
The reason it feels boring is because your learning without understanding and applying it to drawing what you want to draw.
You are so focused on improving and getting out of /beg/ stage that the reason you started art is fading away aka for fun.
Take a break for a while and think why the hell am i learning this?
Say for example some anon critiques some work that you found fun to draw. They say you need to learn some perspective because your shit is flat af.
You hit up some perspective books, study them, then apply it to your drawing.
You'll see how perspective makes your drawing more 3D and practical.
So use books or video courses as a guide to improve your fun drawings. Don't endlessly grind out exercises hoping that one day you'll hit a point where you are pro level and can now draw what you want.
Because you will never hit that level unless you start drawing what you want now. Don't end up like pic related.

When you just play with the paper is fun
But if you are looking for the "I can do watherver I imagine and it end ups decent" then wait for a year or two

you gotta alternative studying new things with applying what you've learned to drawing cute anime girls and degenerate fetish pornography

>>4667861
WHY THE FUCK DO FAGGOTS THAT DON'T EVEN LIKE ART KEEP COMING HERE? FUCK YOU

>>4668082
They don't want to do. They want to be. They want the reflection in the mirror to represent their fantasies. The sickness of our times.

>people who visit /fit/ and want to be a weightlifter but don't want to lift weights
>people who visit /ck/ and want to be a chef but don't want to cook
>people who visit /lit/ and want to be a writer but don't want to write
>people who visit /lgbt/ and want to be queer but don't want to suck dick

Why is it so hard to draw a head?

>>4668112

>Draw circle
>Make a cross in the circle with the direction of the head
>In the bottom do the checkbones
>Put the eyes in the horizontal lines and the nose and mouth in the vertical

Is just practice bro,there's a moment when you just draw it from muscle memory

>>4668125
thank you

>>4668125
>draw the rest of the owl

>>4668086
Literally every hobby-specific board is like this. Every single one.

Off-topic threads are always better than on-topic ones because it's actually MORE likely that the people contributing genuinely give a fuck about the subject. Here, most people's whole "involvement" in a hobby begins and ends with shitposting on a fucking anonymous imageboard. And they pretend that's enough, pretending that they are remotely comparable to someone who actually put in the proper love and dedication.

I know I'm occasionally guilty of this myself and I probably wouldn't even have the right to talk shit about this on most other boards.

>>4668086
Don't all hobbies start like this though? First you see what's out there, then you try it, then you get good, then you enjoy it.

This is the opposite feeling to someone who enjoys draws.

It starts off fun because the lack inhibition or knowledge to know how shit you are. When you hit the stage where your knowledge surpasses your ability, that's the moment it becomes the slog until your ability reaches acceptable levels.

>>4667880
Pretty much this. If you already don't make art for fun spending your days trying to "get gud" wont make art fun and probably wont make you good. Most artists that "make it" and produce good quality work are people who made art and enjoyed doing it even when they sucked at fundamentals. If you need to be "good" to have fun maybe OP needs to think about why they want to make art in the first place. Wanting likes on twitter or insta for your sick paintings wont be enough motivation to stick with it.

>>4669488
Picking up something like baseball to play as a hobby is one thing, anyone can just casually go play a sport, or start fishing. Getting "good" at art (like people talk about on here) takes years of dedicated practice. Your talking about the difference between playing neghborhood baseball games with friends and training everyday, working out and playing to become a pro ball players.

If you can't have fun making art at your current skill level chances are making art wont ever be fun for op.

>>4668086
There's only one hobby board that I frequent that still maintains any semblance of real discourse on the subject matter, all of the others are exactly as you describe. /fit/ and /mu/ are especially headache-inducing, it's insane to me that I can scroll through the catalog on a random day and get the impression that literally nobody who's posted a thread actually does anything involving their alleged hobby. I guess it's to be expected given the website's format and demographics, but it still frustrates me.

>>4669540
>If you can't have fun making art at your current skill level chances are making art wont ever be fun for op.

Not sure I agree, "passion" is bullshit. Getting good at something isn't always fun, it's only fun after you put in the hard work and can turn on cruise control. Everybody loves drawing when they're a kid.

>>4667861
What is fun, exactly?
Having sex or eating are good, but I won't call them "fun"
Is fun really that important?
Do you really want to have fun, or its something else?

>>4669563
>"passion" is bullshit
If you find no enjoyment in a field to begin with, your chances of actually getting through the hard grindy part of it is going to be next to impossible. Getting good isn't always fun yeah, but if it's *never* fun then you're just dicking around in the wrong area of work for no reason

>>4669563
For most skills I would agree, but art is specific in that your goal is getting your art to appeal to other people. Staying playful and letting a dose of "passion" shine through your work is definitely one way of doing that. "Passion" (or however you define it) has an actual purpose outside of just muh motivation and muh feefees. There's more to art than just a robotic practical skill, fact is if you don't give a shit about your work, then it's gonna look like shit and everyone will notice. Worst case scenario is, you're reducing yourself to a mindless artmonkey who won't be able to produce anything without outside supervision.

>>4667865
Not necessarily true, you can change your attitude after years of drawing, but it is certainly better to do so earlier. I really started enjoyong art when I stopped caring about making something good and started doing stylistic art that let me draw the things I like without worrying about my weaknesses. I then got the confidence to try harder things and learnt a lot just from drawing something everyday

>>4667861
When you have a sketchbook (or equivalent) of drawings and can look back and see what you’ve drawn and how you slowly improve over time. I always write dates and time spent on a particular drawing.

>>4667861
Why did you even start if it wasn't fun?

It's fun at the start. The fun gradually dies out specially when you try to go professional and stop just drawing what you enjoy to draw. It's fun to draw for yourself and your fun entertainment, it's not really fun to draw for others and fulfill their requirements. It's like a different beast altogether and it's not for everyone.

>>4667861
I used to had more fun when i was a /beg/ actually.

>>4667861
even the greatest artists takes years to create their first masterpiece

>>4669586
>Having sex and eating
>Not "fun"

Wow, must suck to be you

>>4667861
What are your goals in art? It’s like anything you want to be good at, you need to develop your skill set and fall in love with that process. It’s easier to track progress and enjoy the process if you identify your goals.

>>4667861
fun dies when you become an adult.

>>4668086
Then let's acknowledge that drawing requieres a lot of grinding, because nobody lifts for fun.

>>4670193
Lifting is super fun though anon

>>4670223
It is when you’re seeing gains but when you’re starting out and if you haven’t been eating right before, it can be hell getting out of your bad habits and into the grind. Same with art. For some people, they can pick it up naturally, but for others it’s more of a challenge to get into the mindset.

>>4667861
I don't know why these people are all lying with "it should always be fun". When your understanding of good art exceeds your skill, it usually isn't fun at that point and can be frustrating. The key is to just work through this phase then it will be fun again.

Litterally draw things that are fun to you, even if you consider you have a shit taste for jokes

>>4670445
This. Don’t mistake a plateau for a peak.

>>4669909
Holy shit asian genes and talent are too real

>>4670516
that's not talent. if it were talent the "before" pics would be better looking

>>4668226
>it can't be that easy
the basic proportions of the face are roughly the same, unless you're producing a freak, all that's left is deciding what features you want (big nose, squinting eyes, full lips, chubby cheeks) plus ears, eyebrows, and chin. You can get it down even if you have facial blindness by using simple shapes - for ecample a triangle for the nose, circles for the eyes, and why not a square for the mouth
like >>4668125 all it takes is practice, if you don't know where to start just make cartoons in facial proportion