/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Ill go first.

Bump of interest, I will start working on a comic soon.

>>4658454
o shit she got corona

First of four pages im working on. Tell me how I'm doing, story-wise, composition-wise, anything.

>>4658454
Your art is incredible btw.

>>4658454
Great display of emotions, anon.

>>4659753
What top panel is for? Why are there are no gaps between the panels? It's hard to read.
>>4659755
Make her sketchpad more visible.
>>4659757
Same for the kid face. It took me awhile to decipher the scenes.

In general pacing is weird and hard to understand. Maybe it will get better with text in.
But your drawing skills are not bad. Esp. the very first panel, the playground looks very lively. I can almost hear the noises :)
Keep it up!

>>4659753
Those environments are nuts, good job !

>>4659772
Thanks for the critique, I can def see those problems in my work.

>>4659799
Thank you!

I'm remaking an old set of practice pages I made last year. Here's the first page.

here's a sketchy I'll be linearting today

>>4660328
Ah, you're amazing.

>>4660328
Wow that looks great

>>4660231
So many panels. That's gonna be a mess when you start putting speech bubbles in.

General rule is keep it between 6-8 panels max in a page.

>>4660231
what's he unlatching here? Should be clear without context.

>>4660375
unlatch the nip

>>4660377
hot desu

>>4660231
maybe change the angle of the scene with him with his hands on the guys shoulders to from behind, just have his hand unlatching in that shot

>>4660404
That's a good idea, I'll change it around
>>4660361
Yeah I figured as much myself. It is a big page, I'll look at compressing some panels and making things clearer

I've redrawn this 4 times and I'm still not quite there yet

hello it’s me birdfag again. Not going to stop until I’m done with it. Almost 90 pages in. I think it won’t end before 180ish pages.

really digging all the work in the thread!
would you guys be interested in a discord where you have to post a couple actual comic pages to get in?
I know other comic servers exist, but it'd be nice to have one where all the members actually make comics, instead of talk or have a vague interest.
And ofc, having a craft focus.

>>4661352
i'm sure that discord server would die eventually. But its worth a try to say the least

Would like to pick up my Sigma comic again. refine some anatomy mistakes now that its gone some time, and rework some pages

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>>4661352
>would you guys be interested in a discord where you have to post a couple actual comic pages to get in?
Sounds like a recipe for drama. Why?

>>4661023
What is this? Looks interesting. I'm a complete newfag to /ic/ so sorry if I don't recognize you anon

>>4660918
I had no idea what wasd was going on until i saw her in the last panel

>>4661572
Submitted too quickly
Darken her

>>4661352
I'd be interested in it. I don't have a place to reliably get feedback

Thought Id try making a short comic while Im still stuck at home. Lining the first page reminded me just how much time this takes...

>>4661660
This is so cool

>>4661550
I don’t post often, only once in a while in comic threads.
It’s a historical adventure set in victorian times with birds instead of humans.

>>4661689
Thanks! First time posting art here

>>4661660
this is traced, right? Either way it looks really cool

>>4661745

I modeled a room in 3d and traced the render while adding detail. The chair too. Everything else is hand drawn.

It is mostly to save time since most of the pages take place in the same room.

Kind of like this

>>4659735
Thanks based bumposter. You saved the thread.

>>4659753
Id open with the widest shot of the environment so you introduce the audience with the most broad idea of the setting first. Then you can zoom in and make things more clear.

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>>4659756
Try to create some negative space between your panels. This might sound dumb but try using a chisel tip marker for your borders. That or use some negative space in between panels. It will also give you some places to add speech bubbles. When someone enters the scene quickly or abruptly try to make their panel indicative of that like its cutting into the already existing panel in a sharp and triangular way.

>>4659796
Trippy, make her do CBT next page.

>>4660231
Try to think about what method your audience will view your comic. If its on a mobile phone the panels should be larger and speech bubbles as well. If its a large graphic novel you can get away with lots of small panels and speech bubbles.

>>4660328
Hot

>>4660918
Same thing as the last guy i criticized. Make the environment shot the opener to establish the setting first and foremost. I.E "A long time ago in a far away land..."

>>4660956
Real rough and loose. Sucks i dont get to see what happens next! Would really do well to add some more context to his actions.

>>4661023
Is it a childrens novel?

>>4661352
Maybe if the thread becomes a mainstay. Ill do what i can to try and keep the thread alive but its not too popular for obvious reasons and i dont want to force it.

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>>4661395
You can do better than this. Put some effort into it!

>>4661660
Quality content. This guy knows what he is doing!

>>4659735
Me too anon.

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>>4661883
fair enough, I tried setting things up, but I might hold back for now.
I honestly don't mind a cosier community, just somewhere that's easy to pop in, bounce ideas and grab feedback.

if there's any feedback or suggestions for the server let me know, and if the server happens I'll get you onboard as a mod, VU.

>>4661614
drama, how? My main gripe with other chan-based comic servers (hyw, mangaka central) and the other non-chan based ones, is that they have an overwhelming number of members who either lurk or chat without ever creating. Making a single comic page isn't a high bar either.

>>4661957
Your rules suck!
d:-)

>>4661614
sorry, that last reply was meant for
>>4661521

glad for the interest, that's what I was going for.

An experiment that doesn't make much sense.
Self conscious about the lame dialogue.

>>4661983
nice uniform speech bubbles. really wish there was speech to go with it.

>>4661986
Thanks, CSP's shape tools are handy.
I... promise to add the text next time.

>>4661983
You got a Twitter?

>>4660328
blog?

Okay, sorry for spamming my pages, this'll be the last one. I'm dreading inking all of this detail. Again, all crits appreciated, im really new to making finished work in general.

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>>4662109
I dont get it

I never do background and my story telling is bad, any advice how to story tell better

From my latest chapter

>>4662154
Thats a really meaty forearm for a woman.
>>4662131
post more of the story for critique

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>>4662159

Basically all my comics are like this

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>>4662165
is there supposed to be a story?
its not bad, its really charming...but are you really trying to write stories?

>>4662179
i mean, like their all short comics, no real story. But i want the punchlines to hit better, let me post another one.
I was thinking of taking an improve class or something to do comedy better

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>>4662189
nah ur fine. though take that class, it doesn't hurt to learn something new.

>>4662203
yeah, i guess. But i want to have more a comedic sense

>>4662159
yeah the forearm is big because she used boost to make herself bigger

>>4662233
othertimes she looks like this, forgot to add the pic

>>4660231
there's more than one facial expression than "slightly disconcerted and angry you know". otherwise i enjoyed it

>>4662215
Well the art is cute but the humor is for 5 year olds. Small cute character wants violent gun is level 1 stuff.

Writing is as much of a skill as art, so it couldn't hurt to work on it. It's hard to write something genuinely funny. Especially in short stories where there's little context. My tip would be to try to think of more original scenarios.

>>4661883
>Is it a childrens novel?
I would say family friendly. It’s focused on history and some other geographical facts, it has a bit of educational value. There are some bits of historical geopolitics that might be a bit too complex for children though, but I tried to make things easy to understand.

>>4662323
true, i should study more!

My page
Without inking
Still working on my style

finally starting mine. any advice on making them?

>>4661983
good shit senpai

>>4662001
What tool do you use for the bubbles? The new curve tool after recent update with new interface?
I still use the old one because there was small irritating problem with the cursor tool for me

>>4662021
sorry I don't really use social media
>>4662569
thank you friend
for feedback, you might want to consider how gutters and panel size will affect that emphasis.
It feels a little unintentional/undersigned here.
I made a quick edit where the sizes and spacing is more intentional.

recommended reading: scott mcloud
and this thread: https://twitter.com/insertdisc5/status/1174092202684964864

>>4662859
it's just the square tool, with rounded corners. Check the settings, you can adjust how rounded you want them to be.

>>4661023
Did you upload them somewhere?
Looks kinda cute

>>4662567
don't worry style. if you think too deeply about what 'style' you're aiming for you will ultimately end up spending alot of time on something that will change as you get better at art.

>>4663267
No. Not sure if I will upload it one day. Not until I finish it for sure. I don’t really want any external pressure or influence. It’s more of a challenge for myself.

>>4663715
I like this alot

>>4662235
you must be some sort of autist

>>4658451
Made this recently. Part of a whole sequence.

>>4663697
are these your childhood comics?
impressive!

>>4663697
Thx for the advice
I will keep it in mind

>>4662315
Yeah I have to agree with you. I’m trying to sort out my expressions along with fixing up what other anons here have suggested.

>>4662567
You style is already there and will naturally evolve the more you draw.

I didn't post the follow up page last time so here it is.

Had to slap the pages together, files were too big

>>4665530
this is p fucking cool.

>>4665393
deep xd

>>4665254
I actually inspired it from the work of kei toume and seijun
But I still feel uncomfortable with it
I need to learn more about the fundamental and the perspective to make more applying

I made a thread weeks ago on webcomic advice and got a lot of insite. I drawing started this webcomic once every Saturday . I drive/walk across 3 cities in my home of Suburban Texas And draw the characters in the area I am currently in. Since the comic is once a week, this one will be posted in couple weeks onto the site

>>4666056
Here’s where I was

>>4658451
I really want to make a comic but whenever I think of that I think of the setting, story, interaction, and all this other shit then I just forget about it because its too much to think about like how the fuck do you guys manage to do this shit

>>4666447

trying to keep it simple I guess.

The dog is a doberman/basenji mix
and the cat is just a common tabby

>>4666447
You can learn to write anon.

>>4666447
Yeah separating writing and drawing is the way to go. Otherwise you are just going to get paralyzed by the amount of decisions you need to make per page.

Working on creating the next Far Side

I can draw on a blank background but whenever I try and actually draw within tiny panels and compose an actual comic page my drawing skills fly out of my brain. What can I do?

started drawing this comic in my journal for fun i’m intimidated by the artwork itt

>>4667840
Composition and flow. Read Scott McCloud. He has two books on how to make comics that are pretty much guaranteed to help (both books themselves are drawn like comics so they are easy to digest).

>>4666447
you right it down dummy

>>4667844
clean this up pls.

>>4667928
i like it how it is

I've been working on a book for a while. It started as a cartoonish parody of corny old action movies in the vein of John Wayne, and over time it has developed into a story about the evolution of American film making scene from the perspective of an archetypal Golden Age leading man, and the central question is why are there no more actors like John Wayne and whether or not that's a bad thing.

I have pages and pages of concept art and character designs, thumbnails of key scenes. and a dozen Word documents detailing the cast, the chronology, relevant pieces of Hollywood history, etc. I'm looking over all this shit right now and checking the dates. I started this project in 2011. I just turned thirty, I've been working on this for almost a third of my life and I haven't drawn a single page.

Fuck me man I am so depressed and disappointed with myself.

>>4668351
Time to start drawing.

>>4667840
use thumbnails to work on the composition then focus on the drawing part

I'm finally done with this one

>>4668351
worldbuilding + details can be a dangerous trap because it has no end.
Let's see some comic work! if the pressure is too high, you can start off with thumbs that you know you can easily revisit and rework later.
Or finish a lower commitment short side-story/comic related to but not THE main plot.

Recently starting chapter 2 of my comic, had fun going over chapter 1 and looking at my art progress, I've gotten better but still got a loooong way to go.

Currently working on getting better at anatomy and doing more interesting/dynamic angles for my panels.

>>4660328
Love your style dude!

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>>4668950
I agree with this guy.

>>4671145
I really like survival styled stories especially deserted island type ones. Anything wilderness. Your skills arent very good but i like the concept. Keep it up!

Drawing is hard but fun

Anyone here has experience transfering traditional made art into webcomic format?

>>4671278
Thanks!~ Anything in particular that stands out that I can work on?

>>4671966
You symbol draw facial features and add inaccurate details to the body.

>>4663148
This is definitely an interesting direction for it. Thanks senpai

>>4672238
I see, thank you for the input, I'll keep it in mind!

I’ve posted on /ic/ before. Here are the last four pages I’ve done.

1/4

>>4672304
Big strides have been made since I started two years ago, but I really need to actually work on studies. I spend all my time on the comic; I just haven’t put aside time to practice.

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>>4672309
You can read the rest here:
http://concord-initiative.com/

17th/18th century fantasy with horror elements.

>>4672313
great content. its definitely serviceable for making comics. id try to finish what you started before really focusing on studies.

>>4673615
Thanks, man. I think you're right. I do get impatient, though.

How do you set-up manga pages?

I've been messing up and making my scenes either way too big or way too small and than having a ton of extra room

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>>4672313
I took a look at several pages. This comic has a palette of colors that makes me feel uneasy and alarmed at times.
It's fucking BASED and I will read it in full when I get off of work.

>>4676297
I’m thrilled to hear it. Unease is definitely a core feature.

Just a demo page practicing my style

This is about the quality of my roughs at this point in time. The final versions don't really end up too different, save for a bunch of additional shading. I keep leaving them at this point before moving on to rough the next page (I've got about 10~ pages ready at this quality), but honestly an extra hour will make these basically finalized.

Problem I always run into is flatting colors, I completely understand why american comics usually have colorist as a second job, flatting is miserable lol

>>4677760
Gotta up your expression game. Her face isn't portraying anything other than "flat neutral". Best bet will be to do some quick studies of all sorts of expressions, then draw your character on top of them and see if you can match it up, otherwise you end up with something akin to jojo sameface

>>4661762
What do you use for 3d modeling?

>>4677876
Not him, but I've used Sketchup several times in my comic. There are an absolute shitton of pre-done assets perfect for almost any room/layout.

>>4677910
Thanks. I've been delaying using 3d out of lazyness learning those programs, just looking for something that doesn't require too much time to pick up

>>4663715
When you're done please release it in some capacity

I-it's on hiatus. N-not cancelled I swear. Here was a rough character height sheet.

Question for yall:

I like to add a lot of hatching to my linework before coloring, as I'm a big proponent on letting the ink be able to stand by itself. This makes putting the flat colors in really difficult. Does anyone else put hatching/shading on a different layer than your lineart so the flat stage is faster?

>>4678679
Yes?
Why would you put hatching on a different layer?
Why wouldn't you just slap everything on a different layer? Layers exist to be abused, so abuse the shit out of them bro. No rules, only tools.
This seems like the kind of thing you shouldn't really have to ask, silly billy.

>>4678681
Thanks dawg, I guess I just needed someone else to say that I have been retarded all this time, and that other people actually know what the fuck they're doing.

Time to hopefully make my job easier!

>>4678690
Little pro tip for comics: if there's something that makes your job easier... fucking do it. Nobody's going to care if you slaved away for 2 hours painstakingly detailing some fence in the background or spent 10 minutes making a brush for it if it looks the same in the end.

>>4659735
Bump from page 10.

>>4677797
I think having someone to delegate tasks in comics may be necessary to maintain a professional pace in any case where you're making a comic of any ambition.

Little one pager for /FNaF/ threads I made a while back, had an idea for a pizzeria/boxing gym with animatronic trainers and wanted to practice figures more

>>4677797
>Problem I always run into is flatting colors
Do you do it 100% manually or do you use something like Flatton, or Flatten Pro & MultiFill?

>>4661883
awful. just awful.

I draw comics very irregularly

>mfw seeing everyone's comics

1/2

>>4683863
2/2

Lot's of really cool pages being posted here so far.

I just started updating again after a long hiatus. Feels good to get back on track.

http://www.taleofjaspergold.com/

I have a graphic novel that's been reviewed in a few places. New one just went up today: https://ap2hyc.com/2020/06/letters-from-midia-combines-cliched-use-of-color-art-and-narration-to-tell-a-unique-kind-of-story/

I'm giving the ebook away for free for the next few days, so please take a look and let me know what you think.
https://www.amazon.com/Letters-Midia-Boluwatife-Oriowo-ebook/dp/B07XTLY3KZ

>>4688473
Forgot my image.

>>4672309
Dude your art has so much fucking soul to it I love it. Keep it up

>>4688630
Thank you so much man. I will.