/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

fuck off to your containment general, retarded beg

1 minute figure drawings, I don't feel like I'm improving I just feel like I'm drawing in a more rushed state

Look at me look at this

Can somebody tell me what this muscle is?
Is it the biceps or coracobrachialis, or something else?

>>4658385

>>4658416
ok but it goes much further than half of the humerus, is it the biceps brachi?

>>4658421
That bulge is probably two muscles interlaced, the brachi and the cobrachi I'd say but I don't know shit about anatomy, I just recently picked up goldfinger

>>4658324
what? I didn't ask anything about the sticky.
If your point is to grind loomis, I know, it was just a copy though

If I copy the works of artists I like (Hirohiko Araki, Tetsuya Nomura, Yoshitaka Amano, Hokusai and M.C. Escher), anatomy books and real life, will I improve and leaen?

>>4658458
That's the only way to improve.

>>4658458
yes

what are the /beg/ approved video courses?

from the ones here:
>>4654003

>>4658385
matters not, just draw it. you can call it the armpit-thingie and move on. you're not a doctor, you're learning to draw.

>>4658385
looks like the biceps to me. it starts below the deltoid and goes all the way to the inner elbow. coracobrachialis seems to end at the same point where the deltoid ends

I'm thinking of dropping drawing on the right side and keys to drawing and just copying stuff instead. Where can i find things that are actually good to copy, and can the books be replaced by just copying stuff while maybe using some of the early hints on how to copy from the books?

Do keys to drawing and drawing on the right side produce the same results or at least both are designed around breaking symbol drawing? Absolute beg thinking I want to start either of those while trying to copy from life then transfer into anatomy and w/e I need

I've been trying to draw freehand perspective but I'm wondering if it's best to just use grids

So I'm working with Loomis and it's been enjoyable, and I've reached the ball plane method of construction. I'm having a pretty hard time with it, this is what I've produced so far but I dont know if I've really got the idea, please critiques opinions and thoughts thank you very much.

How to escape the Pinterest hell? Every time I search for references I enter into some black hole of pinterest links with low resolution images, pins redirecting to other pins and broken URLs.

>>4658615
"Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" has way, WAY too much pseudo science filler text.
Read "Keys to Drawing", it has more exercises and no filler crap.

After that, go through Marshall Vandruffs video course on perspective (video thread) and follow up with Scott Robertson's "How to Draw" book (essentially advanced perspective).
When you're done with that, go through Robertson's other book, "How to Render".

>>4658695
You're having problems because Loomis expects you to have knowledge on perspective.
Personally, I wouldn't go through his books. Poor explanations, in my opinion.

See >>4658734

>>4658744
Cammy and...who is the other one?

>>4658744
How often should I try and draw something from imagination? I enjoy copying things and trying to study them but when I try to draw without a reference it feels like I just completely forget everything I learned. Also having an incredibly hard time finishing anything. It's really frustrating.

>>4658751
It was also Cammy I just fucked up the torso then gave up on it. Not a very good habit or learning experience I know but I just wasn't feeling it anymore.

Is starting off with COOM art a bad idea /ic/?

>>4658752
It helps to have a better understanding of construction drawings before trying to draw from imagination so start practicing those shapes, then
>look at reference
>close reference and draw from memory
>analyze mistakes made
>look at reference again and try to copy
>close reference and draw from memory (don't look at any copies you've made)
>analyze any remaining mistakes
>repeat

>>4658380
So you gonna post this shit in every single thread? How bored are you?

>>4658766
Yes, you will prioritize sexual gratification/sex appeal over the fundamentals and make garbage like what you posted.

>>4658766
If you learn to draw shapes in perspective you can do anything

>>4658766
Yes and no. I think the biggest benefit would be that it would keep drawing interesting to you and hopefully inspire you to do it more which could then lead to you drawing things other than naked people. If you're just beginning I think the actual desire to draw and somewhat enjoy it is pretty important, fundamentals and what-not aside. The cons are of course that you're going to have a much harder time picking up the important fundamentals from just drawing titties.

>>4658778
>>4658784
>>4658806
Damn, thanks guys. a good eye opener.

>>4658819
What brush do you use for the hair and shadows?

>>4658830
hard round and soft

Crit pls

>>4658373
Look up Steve Huston's elbow test so you can always know which direction to make the gestures of the arms.
Basically if the elbow points up then the arm's gesture lines curve down, if the elbow points down then the gesture lines curve up.
The most important part of gesture is the direction of it. When you watch someone else like Vilppu do gestures analyze the directions he makes the gestures flow.

>>4658834
fack

>>4658373
>>4658838
The elbow test

two questions:
- are good artists able to draw (digitally) on both sides of things? I can never draw, for example, two relatively symmetrical eyes without inverting the canvas, so in effect I'm only drawing two right eyes. should I practice not doing this?
- related: do good artists not draw skewed things without inverting the canvas? whenever I think I finally got a straight shape, I invert the canvas and it's all leaning to one side

>>4658901

only the end result matters
flip the canvas every 5 seconds if that helps
draw help lines for symmetry
only tools

>>4658841
Stop chicken scratching and think about where each line is going to go instead of having a rough idea in your head without letting your hand take a break.

>>4658841
cute.
work on proportions a bit but I kind of like it. very soulful.

>>4658859
Is this from one of his books or did Huston use this in a slideshow once?

>>4658954
it's from Figure Drawing for Artists by Huston

>>4658841
make a high effort drawing if you want real crit and dont hide behind style

>>4658841
Not bad, anon. Shoulders are a bit wide but I really like the way you did the head.
>>4658945
>>4658964
PYW

>>4658964
Ok this from before crit pls

>>4658385
definitely bicep

what can I improve from this?

>>4658964
>>4658980
God dammit

>>4658958
Is it worth reading? Or should I download either his or Vilppu's video courses?

>>4658508
idiot

>>4658659

its necessary if you plan on doing more complex stuff

>>4658985
you face drawing seems to be miles ahead of your bodies
what is your end goal

Cursed

>>4658989
That's actually a hard question to answer. IMO yes, and I prefer books to lectures.
For figure drawing my top 3 books would be Vilppu = Morpho - Simplified Forms > Huston, but Huston has a lot of useful wisdom.
Use all 3. Analyze and redraw every illustration in Vilppu's Drawing Manual and Morpho, and draw from life. These books actually have everything you need to know about basic figure drawing, even though they don't explain every detail. You will figure things out on your own if you practice a lot.
Proko's structure basics video is like a very condensed version of Vilppu's lessons on drawing basic forms. As long as you know what foreshortening is then you will do fine on basic forms, I think.
I think most people prefer the video courses, some people think a video course is necessary, but I disagree with that.
Also everything I just said might not work for you personally.

>>4658995
ngmi. It doesn't matter /what/ we draw. When we learn to see things in terms of their shapes, we can draw anything well: people, buildings, parrots, landscapes and fire hydrants are all treated equally. We're not specialists.

>>4658740
So is building boxes the replacement for building potatoes?

>>4659061
Idk just drawing for fun right now
I haven’t bothered studying anatomy yet which is probably why my portraits are better
Also I can’t draw clothes lol

Watching Steve Huston's Beginning Figure Drawing course. It's pretty great and I feel like I'm gaining confidence.

why can't jannies do their ONE job right?

>>4658228
am i doing this study thing right

>>4659214
depends on what youre studying and how youve been using that exercise to learn...

Drawing my own face forces me to come to terms with my nose being slightly crooked and one of my eyelids being droopier than the other and I hate it

>>4659229
but that's more interesting than being symmetrical

>>4659229
>Tfw you take a selfie and the camera canvas flips your ass so you see how busted up your shit actually is

>>4659085
Thanks for the info
I'll give both courses a shot (if they are still available in the vid thread) and the books as well.

rewatched the first two lessons and gave the assignments a try

What's wrong with this arm shading?

Tried drawing at a different angle.

>>4659474
look up the anatomy of the deltoid muscle (specifically the shape they make extending down the arm), the first is closest but the shading extends down the arm too far .

>>4659567
Thanks anon, I'll keep fiddling with it

Oh screw this, I can't draw legs for this pose but I really like the upper body. Can I just leave the drawing without legs? My pride won't let me but pls tell me

>>4659628
>20200617_121201_copy_600x800
the shoulder itself looks better, but now the tricep looks more like a fold of cloth. that line would go more straight down the arm for one

Thoughts? Top right is super retarded I know

>>4659681
You're going to make it; keep grinding.

>>4659643
The world will never know what I attempted to do

>>4659643
>>4659692
Do it BECAUSE it's hard, anon. It looks like she's wearing men's pants anyways, so they're not going to perfectly capture the contours of her legs.

>>4659643
if she's punching his body should be twisting, if she's jabbing then she should be extending. forwards and maybe winding up her straight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUgPTy0LS0E
How do you draw "the relationship between the parts and how they interact with eachother?"

>>4659720

>>4659720
Very nice, the values shoud be a bit darker to bring up the highlights more. It's missing a bit of contrast, and the bottom ink shape is too large, it's extended downwards.

>>4659738
Thanks for the feedback. Incidentally would you have any advice for how to make the shapes in the foreground stand out better from the shapes behind them? Is it a matter of contrast?

>>4658385
Help me.

>>4659701
>>4659703
Thanks for the replies, then I will take it a step further and draw a fight scene. I keep drawing fighting characters but in 2 years I think only once I drew characters actually connecting attacks.
It's gonna be hard but that's what I wanna do, yeah yeah

>>4659775
Really nice man. Serious improvement over the previous attempts.

still feel awkward, any advice?

>>4659777
Arms too thin, head too small, torso too wide

>>4659777
Arms looking way too thin compared to the torso and the legs have a really weird curve to them. Also her right forearm is curved for some reason

>>4659777
in the construction u made the rib cage too small think about the side and back

i think youre at the stage where u just have to draw more

>>4659770
the humerus is too short

>>4659761
Just at a glance, you made the neck the proper width but the jaw too narrow. Her torso is too skinny and you made her posture too straight. Her ass should jut out more and she should be leaning on her legs in a more forward position. The gesture in general is stiff, her arms are too small, and her legs are too skinny. I think it's time to grind out more quick flowing gestures before doing these more detailed ones.

>>4659797
Thanks for the advice. Capturing the gesture while still keeping the correct proportion is one of my biggest struggles.

>>4659788
thanks

>>4658385
it's likely the biceps, i made a diagram to help illustrate the muscle but its shit because im beg and not a doctor

>>4659761
too many lines. try 30 second drawings every day before doing longer poses, and use 10 lines max. they will be shit at first but will force your mind to think about what's important to the gesture.

>>4659878

>>4658981
im beg so please forgive me if it looks bad.

the most noticeable thing to me was the legs. women typically rest their calves over the knees of their other leg so i drew in red, the bones of the lower limbs to show where the knee would be. its not 100% accurate but its there to illustrate a point. the feet is brought down by gravity so i outlined how the foot might tilt forward a little bit on the raised foot. i think your drawing is really good, i like it a lot

day two of studying anatomy (torso):
working on these muscles today
pectorals (major)
saw muscle
external + internal oblique
abs
and working on trapezius and deltoids later

>>4659900
Did you draw that? Do you simply copy another picture or use it as a guidelines for your studies?

I started watching videos and reading about perspective and suddently everything starts to make sense.
Why do you send begs to learn about construction and anatomy without learning about perspective first?

>>4659942
We tell them to learn perspective first and the whine "its too hawd ;_;". Those people get to learn the hard way. Good luck constructing forms for anatomy when you don't know perspective, fuckass.

>>4659942
What are some good resources? Is "Perspective made easy" good?

>>4659064
I feel your pain. Shota proportions are hard to draw. I always end up making the shoulders way too wide and having to adjust a million times.

On one hand, maybe I'm just not cut out for this art thing. On the other, this is bloody hilarious so I'll continue a little longer.

skull study

>>4659969
unironically has soul

>>4658228
AHHHH I loomed, beginner shit but hey my third time using the loomis method for imagination, next time ill use more tone cause i fucked up

I CAN'T DO IT I HATE DRAWING CIRCLES SO FUCKING MUCH
I'm straight up about to chicken scratch then trace over every circle I ever have to draw, or just use the ellipsis tool until the end of time

Just finished this recently, I struggle (I think) the most with faces and expressions

Getting more comfortable with digital here.
Still feel subhuman compared to everyone else tho.
also her face is too wide and I think the right arm should be visible

>>4659974
forgot to attach, fuck!

>>4659959
I'm watching Marshall Vandruff's 1994 perspective videos. Pretty entertaining and simplified for begs, you can jump to other resources once you finish with that

I downloaded it from the magnet link here >>4654003

thoughts on this sketch?

>>4659969
You made a good copy, it looks really close. Put the dots on the tie.

>>4659975

>>4660013
your fingers are pretty :3

>>4659928
yep, i drew this one myself after drawing a couple skeleton and muscle diagrams

>>4660026
screw you buddy for a second i thought one of my drawings was getting complimented

>>4659969
it looks like you started from the top and went down which is why the proportions are funky. i like it though, has soul

my advice is to start from the pelvis (since thats where the balance of the figure is) and then work your way around the torso before drawing arms, legs and head.

>>4658714
lurk hr and wg if you have the time and reference threads are p good

>>4660048
I started with the chair's left arm and moved left hand -> right hand -> right leg -> torso, but I think the advice applies. I needed to put down a crossline or something for reference before going in.

In the meantime, I'll go ahead and try the other Right Side exercises.

>>4659477
Not sure if it's intentional, but her waste is crazy. Pretty good, tho.

>>4659775
I'M GOING ALL OUT
The original had its charm but I think now it looks more like a manga

>>4660102
After 4 minutes it said this post was too old to delete, lol.
Well I changed the face, I realized the previous one was cuter, Now this is the ultimate version

>>4659942
ive always found perspective kinda straightforward so i assumed most people have some understanding of perspective if theyre already starting to draw people

Organic perspective on drawabox.

Is this really for complete beginners? Shit's hard.

>>4660146
Are you done with the previous exercises?

>>4660150
Yes.

>>4659942
Yep it's a common beg trap ... It's almost impossible to understand construction without perspective.

Makes sense since construction is reliant on form guides (spheres, rectangles, etc ...) in space. Literally the first step of Loomis (shaving the sides of a sphere to get the temples) is reliant on form and perspective.

I do some tutoring on the side, i always start with basic pen handling, intro to perspective, intro to shape/form and then basic construction.

>>4660164
Are you sure?

>>4660188
Yes. At best you'll be able to reproduce the construction at a flat, front facing angle, or maybe that one angle you learned (usually 3/4 front facing).

Before even looking at a loomis diagram, i'd expect a beginner to be able to cut a sphere, cylinder, cube and find the direction and the center line of a plane.

drawing more again after a long time. already forgot most fundies and the techniques i made up to make drawing easier

please help me I don't know what I'm doing

>>4660339
here's the reference

>>4658228
Currently practising perspective. I never really thought about the fundamentals before, and only copied other images I found cool. But after giving up drawing for years, I'm starting it again and am now trying to understand the theoretical principles.

I must say, I found it really bothersome at first but after a day of work it's actually kind of cool. I never really thought about how perspective worked in my everyday life, for example.

Here is a page of rough practice from yesterday. Any advice moving forward? I know it's bad, but I feel like I'm slowly understanding how perspective works for cubes and circles.

30 min sketch, trying to get better at drawing what I see as opposed to relying on construction. I know something is wrong, but I can't figure out what it is. Will post ref image next

>>4660367
here's ref. sorry image was so big, stuck phone posting

>>4660367
the angle of the entire face is off, in your pic it'ss like she's looking more at the camera.

The only time you shouldn't use construction is gesture/quick drawing or if you can build the construction in your head.

>>4660339
The position of the left foot is off, the toes will always follow the direction of the knee for the most part.

shoulders and arms are too skinny as well.

>>4660383
I see what you mean, but I can't really figure out why it looks that way. I started with the nose and worked out from there, so do you think it's to do with the right eye being too visible?

>>4660394
That and the length of the head/jaw as a whole.

I would just use construction bro

>>4660146
drawabox doesn't always assign exercises at a time where you're expected to be able to do them well. this is one of those cases where you're being thrown into a difficult exercise, with the expectation that you'll struggle, but with the intent of having you develop a contextual awareness of the challenges involved.

where you actually learn about how to build those more organically rotated boxes is in the 250 box challenge, which comes after this. i'm pretty sure the instructions for this one actually explains that it's going to be really hard and that you're not expected to be able to do a very good job just yet. it's still valuable to try it at that point, though.

>>4660367
resize your images before you post

>>4660396
fair, thanks anon

>>4660399
do you know an android app I can do that with? It's a pain in the ass to get shit from my phone to my PC to resize

>>4660334
>the techniques i made up to make drawing easier
share sage wisdom anon

>>4660359
Mainly try to practice better pencil control going forward. Ghost your lines (hover a few times before committing the line). Draw toward you, use shoulder/elbow.

>>4659214
That's not a good ref. She has her jaw shaved down so her proportions are wrong. You tried to correct it in your sketch but if you look at the ref, it's more fucked up than your drawing.

>>4659770
Are we looking at the top of the right foot or the bottom?

>>4660003
Nose is fucked

>>4660491
that looks like you ran out of TP and wiped your ass with a turquoise sock. sketch. paper. pencil.

Rip in pepperoni.

Need advice on the coloring, i'm trying to make smooth skin, I let some space around the figure because i plan to make other figures on the same page

>>4660519
I really like your shading.

>>4660410
Great advice. Thank you anon

>>4660519
very retro 90s feel that i like

>>4660334
Looks great to me...

>>4658228
top pic is practice. bottom is practice but comicbook form(my end goal is drawing comics)

I've been copying a lot of cartoon characters and they are so much easier to draw than real people. I don't know if I'm actually improving though.

>>4660205
Hello, I struggle so much with perspective... The thing is, when I read and watch lessons about it, I generally don’t have much of a problem going along the examples/exercises. And I do feel like I understand what’s being presented (VPs, HL, etc.). When it comes to applying it outside the lessons however, it’s like I forget everything...

Would you have any tips / recommended courses or books / ways to practice perspective? I’ve done the Marshall series so far and some of Perspective Made Easy although i never finished this book. Planning to go over Robertson’s How to Draw next but it intimidates me a little...

Maybe I just need to practice more. The pic attached is a head I tried to construct from imagination, but I was struggling with the perspective so much that I just gave up on it for now ;_;

something sucks about this but i can’t tell what it is, please crit

>>4660593
Part of your problem with what you drew is not understanding proportions and the planes of the face well enough.

It's better to practice rotating and tilting simple objects in perspective first. Get a coffee mug or tea cup and start with that.

It's also really helpful actually if you animate it. If you just have a teacup sitting and you animate it rotating it's cool to see it in motion and it helps with your understanding of perspective a lot, I've found. It's best if you have a cup for a sort of reference but that you construct it out of simple forms in perspective first and foremost

>>4660491
he looks sad

>>4660569
Don't copy. Study!

doodled some heads

>>4660837
and a full pose too

i drew this a month ago

>>4660841
why is it pregnant is this some fetish shit?

Waaa

>>4660841
they look very nice and gentle

nay to both
>>4660843

>>4660841
Is it gonna vore me?

>>4660339
read/watch Huston's or Vilppu's figure drawing and skim through Hampton's first chapter if you haven't. Head is too big compared to the rest of the body. Lower body is too small/narrow. Gluteal cleft could be leaning more towards the left to show that the weight bearing leg is the right one. Some cross contours could help with giving a sense of depth and form.

>>4660593
>Would you have any tips / recommended courses or books / ways to practice perspective? I’ve done the Marshall series so far and some of Perspective Made Easy although i never finished this book. Planning to go over Robertson’s How to Draw next but it intimidates me a little...

Those are good. Look you are already shaving that sphere in a pretty coherent manner. Just train more using those books.

>>4660626
Also this but don't tackle huge tasks like animation yet.

>>4660869
Real talk how useful is hustons figure drawing video series if youre a shitty beg who makes deviantart tickle fetish levels of art

>>4660901
I only read his book but think it would be very helpful, Hampton and Vilppu might be more useful if you want to draw from imagination but that will also be harder if you've just started, you'll get there and it's not like there's a world of difference between them. Huston is very begfriendly imo.

>>4660519
the tit that's supposed to be closer to the viewer is smaller than the farther away tit

the arm she's holding up is huge

the clavicles are too sharp 2/10 would not bang

Is her head too small?
I can't help but feel her head is smoll

>>4661020
the clothing is baggy so it just appears that way

New to digital, I'm trying to do some still lifes following CTRLpaint lessons, any tips?

>>4661147
2/2

>>4661108
thanks..
I have problems with head proportions sometimes

Figure drawing makes me feel like the ultimate brainlet. Everything makes sense when I watch an instructor do it, then I try it myself and become retarded and can no longer process what's in front of my eyes. After half a day of just deleting everything in autistic frustration, I managed to produce something that resembles the refs I but I feel like I just happened to stumble upon some lines that kinda made sense instead of developing any reliable method. Thanks for reading my blog post.

>>4661020
looks really nice only thing that feels wrong is her left hand (I pressume she's holding a book?)

>>4661147
>>4661148
I think they look very good, if a bit blurry, maybe you're using too much soft brush? I like trimming the edges with the eraser so they look sharp, not sure if that's a problem though, maybe it's personal preference.

How do screentones work?

>>4661205
yeah.. she's reading a book

>>4661279
With your skill level you don't have to worry. Read loomis or something.

>>4661298
I used picrel as a reference.

I want to draw like Alex Ross. Be sincere guys, do you think I could make it? Is there any hope for me? I need some advice to get better at drawing.

>>4661312
Is impossible to tell from one picture. That depends on how much do you love grinding.

>>4661312
well, it's definitely possible, but you got a long way ahead of you.

>>4661312
also, if you want to draw like alex ross, painting might be your thing. his drawings have that hyper-realistic look because he uses painting techniques

>>4661225
Yeah, noticed that all I make is a bit blurry, I'll try switching to an harder brush and experiment a little, thanks!

>>4661317
Not sure what you mean by grinding, english isn't my first language, could you explain it in other words? Sorry. Here's another one, it's not finished but maybe it could tell you something about the way I draw.

>>4661324
>>4661325
I'm using a more cartoonish style because it's very difficult to me to draw real things. This is the best I can do. I'll try to draw real objects and people, and I don't have the materials right now but I'll try to paint some of these.

>>4661364
Grinding means dragging your genitals across something.

>>4661364
drawing is more about the shape of things. painting is more about the color of things. you need to learn both to some degree, but to achieve the hyper-realistic look of alex ross it's 80% the painting

>>4661368
>>4661364
If drawing is grinding to you then you will never make it. Drawing should be fun.

struggling with contours across the form of the nose

So pic related is the best linework I can achieve to date. Any tips on how to get it to the next level? It feels like it's missing texture and detail but I'm not sure what I need to do to add that in.

I've been improving by studying pieces by other artists who are getting the effects I want, but it's laborious to look at the tiny details of a piece and try and reverse engineer how they were achieved.

I know the anatomy's not great but I've been trying to improve that as I go, working from the top down - which is why the legs are missing and the detail falls off in the midsection. I feel like I've got shoulders and arms pretty downpat though.

>>4661561
Zzz just noticed the elbow is fucked up. Oh well.

I don't seem to have problems concentrating while drawing, but I have a hard time focusing on where to start or when to stop. Both of which seem to mess me up. Obviously, I need to keep practicing, and consistently, too! But, it normally just seems like an objective. While, I can pay attention, it is hard for me to relax, and put what I want to on a piece of paper. I am often serious enough to not feel realistic with my expectations at market value. How can I breathe and relax between drawing, and putting something on a piece of paper?

>>4661279
I love this

I just got a new tablet

For some reason I have a hard time drawing the large shapes first, and feel the need to finish each individual part before I move on to the next one. I spent like an hour hitting undo trying to refine that shit on the wheel before realizing I should move on.

I also probably should have learned construction and perspective first.

>>4660880
>>4660626
Thanks so much guys, I’ll practice more

>>4661624
I only managed to start drawing "seriously" when I replaced my old wacom ctl480 with a huion h1161 which has like 3x the drawing area. the old one felt like drawing on a post-it

>>4661621
Thanks Anon.

I don't really know how to use screentones to lighten/darken different parts of an image.
I want to use screentones for my next comic but Youtube videos give the basics but don't tell how to make it look good.

>>4661424
i really like this this looks awesome

>>4661658

I'm the basketball

But I'm gona bounce him tomorrow

and he is all mine

>>4661658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKopy74weus

>>4661626
>>4661626
This is a good exercise as any to practice your construction. Though you're probably gonna get lost on the torso of the bike, it looks hard to keep track of all those pieces. Cheers

>>4661658

imagine unironically wasting paint like this

>>4658228
Hello! I have a big question, I don't know how to draw but I want to learn, which tablet is better for a newbie? Screen or screenless? And I preffer digital more than traditional, not too much space in my house and I want to learn some cute anime style, I don't want to be "a Picasso", or draw some realism, I want some cute anime style to draw cute anime boys and girls or Pokémon with cute pastel colors, nothing else

>>4661687

which part oh master? or all of it? the ones on the cardboard? the layout black? the 5 paintings under the black? the ones on the ball? (ok regret those) the yellow (that isnt there)

blue silver?

>>4661687
`NONE OF IT

was wasted

>>4661697
It's a matter of taste, ultimately. In the end you'll have to try both, but screenless are cheaper and just as good if you end up liking them more.

There's no reason not to start with a screenless if you want or if it's what you can afford. Go with whatever you think you'll prefer.

>>4661687
¨Don't worrty dude no is going to follow me and they fo9llow you..

>>4661697
If you've ever drawn on paint and had fun with it, you won't have any trouble using the screenless tablet. Try that first even if you haven't

>>4661702
So why do people recommend screenless tablets if they look worse?

>>4661710
People recommend all kinds of bullshit for the dumbest of reasons. There are competent artists producing great work on both formats.

Is this a beg conversation? Why are you masters here?

I'm trying to design characters for a project but I can't keep a consistent style

>>4661712
It looks easy to draw on the screen tablet, what do you think? To be honest, I tried the screnless with a friend and I didn't liked it because I find it a bit of hard to draw on it and you need to match your hands moves with the PC

>>4661718
:)

>>4661697
if you have a large enough budget screen tablet is probably better since its a lot easier to get used to

>>4661687

Pay attention....

>>4661722
Screen is definitely more intuitive, but mine would get hot under my hand and having my hand blocking the view of what I was drawing was a pain. After using the screenless for a while I don't find it any harder, and I can have it anywhere on my desk in any orientation and just look at my computer monitor. And it was cheaper.

I prefer screenless and I think they're measurably better in almost every way than screen, but some people can't get the hang of the disconnect between where you're drawing and where you're looking.

>Be me
>Start college in a 2 months

I need another source of cash, so its coomer time. I know I'm very /beg/ but any help would be very much appreciated. Not just on anatomy but how to make my drawings more cute / appealing.

>>4661773
another one, I know its bad, but again any feedback is very much appreciated.

>>4661773
where did you get the pic?
If you're going to go with stylization and are in a hurry I think you should look for artstyles you find appealing that don't look too hard to emulate and do like 3 or 4 attempts at drawing your reference in that style, taking notes of what you liked about it, the color scheme you used, simplifications you made, changes in proportions, etc. to save time on the next drawings
The go-to books for figure drawing are Vilppu and Huston

>>4661665
thank you, anon :)

>>4661637
I just got a huion! It's so nice!

I have finally drawn a funny face
thank you loomis, at last I truly see how much Fun With A Pencil I can have

>>4661831
I still have the first Loomis face I drew that was actually funny.

It was some fat guy and I thought he looked like Goering.

>>4661836
post it?

>>4661837
It's on my other computer and I can't be fucked to get up.

It literally looks exactly like yours though, the same clean lines with uniform width and everything on the same dark grey background.

>>4661838
Mid-grey is objectively the best background to draw on.

>>4661840
Light grey is much better. Mid grey makes everything look dark as fuck. Gotta have some bright in your life.

>>4661844
for me either greenish or reddish grey works best

>>4661844
for me either greenish or reddish grey works best. actually i just get a more or less complementary hue for the canvas relative to the drawing

>>4661831
It doesn't look like you blocked out any of the facial features

and done~

>>4661887

the choice of red background pretty much the exact same shade as her eyes, shirt, and the floating hearts makes the image harder to read.

Also the linework is kind of rough/square in some areas, and smooth/curvy in other. those 2 things make the image pretty jarring to look at

>>4661861
yeah I don't want to bully but it's one of the lowest effort loomis faces I've ever seen

>>4661279
More screen tone practice with my OC Burgerman Burger. Is this moreso how it’s done?

>>4661894
Yeah, honestly couldn't figure out what to do with the background, any suggestions?

>>4661896
well that's just a pointless comment dude. If you're not trying to bully what ARE you trying to do? There's nothing constructive about posting that.

I guess it's just a given that people are going to be cunts on 4chan lol

>>4661901
If you want to to be red change up the saturation, have her sitting on a different coloured blanket, change the colour/shade of her shirt/pants.

Or just ditch the red and go with a different colour. Green contrasts red, but would probably clash with the overall theme. Maybe a shade of grey or white?

>>4661905
Yeah i'll try it out, kinda too late lol but maybe for the next one

>>4661182
just keep at it anon and you'll get to the point where you can get it right more consistently. the boxes on the right look a bit skewed but overall these are looking good

>>4661976
the body pose looks good to me, but the head is a bit too wide, specifically at the jaw/forehead, but also overall.

i thought i was doing so good... then i finished it and realized the foot is way too small (among many other issues)

thoughts?

Copying things I think are cool on artstation until I lose interest.

>>4658228

>>4662056

I stoped drawing because you told me I was never going to make it now what do I do

I give up, this thing is FUBAR. I was doing this for exercise 1-F in Keys but once all the little mistakes and fucked up proportions started piling up I don't think I can reasonably fix it anymore without starting over. I just hope I got the big things right. I should have picked a sewing machine.

>>4662060

>>4662058
buddy has low tire pressure

>>4662064
it doesn't come across as horrible to me. Im sure if i really examined it there would be some errors but that's the whole reason you do these exercises. Nice work anon, gmi

>>4662064
the problem i see is with negative space. a motorcycle is a solid object. i don't see a frame that connects the whole thing. i don't see a big heavy engine. i see a bunch of floating shapes. and also i mean the wheels are so oblong. your shapes are off. you should really use looser lighter lines, to make elipses, and in general on something mechanical you should be using construction. a moticycle is a bunch of cubes cylinders spheres etc.

>>4662064
It looks OK to me.

i.. can... feel... the... forms....

>>4662089
how do i do this

>>4662073
>>4662088
>>4662083
This is the reference >>4661626
I think I might have been able to get some negative space in had I colored it, but it was just tiring. I tried doing a bit of construction in the middle, but I'll practice it more on something else.
Sorry if I came off as fishing for pity or compliments by the way I just got tired after working on this the entire day

What's wrong with this?

>>4661980
the right knee is pointing towards the viewer, but the foot is turned sideways

First sketch since Sunday gone five days no draw I die wake

>>4662102
yeah i buggered the perspective on that leg up hard, the foot needs to be about twice as large, she's supposed to have all her weight on her right leg, and have the left leg extended towards the camera and angled to the side

>>4662106
love the pose, would be happy to see a full version

Thank god its the weekend again
fuck wage slaving, it's absolutely soul draining

action shot baby! rip it apart maybe?

>>4662260
numba 2! give critiquques

>>4662314
is she a duck?

>>4662319
she got big hefty duck feet for stronger kicks

>>4662064
Repeating things from scratch is good for gains anyway.

even more, featuring TOES and fingers on one hand

>>4662099
hands and feet yuge

>>4661773
with art like that you're going to need to find a very niche fetish or some shit lol. Possibly literally shit related. Reference and breakdown the most successful coomer artists.

>>4662260
>>4662314
>>4662376
I feel like you'd be a lot better off doing these without the baggy clothes. It feels like your kicking leg is too long in the first two pics, and there's something wrong with her left arm on the third pic

>>4662400
alright time to strip down and take more reference shots

>>4662408
Nevermind on the legs being too long, I didn't realize how actually long the leg gets doing that kind of kick

>>4659111
t. someone who never draws from imagination

>>4662414
yeah here's the original ref i took, just to get the shape right

Are there any head constructions that look like this (flat surface with the forms of the features then placed)?

>>4662432
loomis. that's just a highly exaggerated version where the features make up nearly half the head

How do I draw cute underwear for women

>>4662417
I can draw the tribilinachii, hexiceps or whatever without naming them. you do you I guess. I'm sure knowing the name of all the muscles is going to affect their look.

>>4662484
pyw

numba four

watercolor sketch but it got out of hand

>>4662525
Did it ever haha. Watercolours are so hard. That was pencil, right?

>bump limit
Nice, now I can post this stupid thing I did instead of studying perspective for real. I'll get started on that tomorrow, I can't even imagine a proper box right now.

>>4662525
Looks great to me, but I'm not really fit to judge. The nose and brow look like a caracal standing against a tree, which is extra cool.

>>4662532
the parts that look that pencil were done after y digitalized the painting, using a brush in clip studio, i thougth it would look great with those extra details

I mapped a circle from the head, shoulder line, and waist line from the reference on the left and did the rest myself. Honestly I feel like i used too much of the reference though

>>4662566
didn't you post the exact same thing a few days ago? draw more art

Really love morpho and would recommend it..

study i did for face, eyes and arm. did full body as practice but mostly did arm and face

>>4661814
You didn't draw that

no reference, how bad is it?

>>4662614
Bad but the gesture is half decent

>>4662620
thanks bro i know the lines and shading are super sloppy but can you give more detail into what else is bad about it?

>>4661887
>/int/

new >>4662670
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>>4658385

>>4661861
you're absolutely right

The huston course on heads is fucking based. I still have to do the advanced stuff but damn, if you really struggle with heads you'll immediately get better.

>>4662997
>>4662997
wow did you label this?
Thank you so much

these were drawn with a plastic ruler on my intuos wacom tablet, seem a bit too squigly, is it broken, its kinda old. Is there any way to correct for this with software, some kind of setting?

>>4659777
stop drawing from anime and look at real life