/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4653371
Shitty quality control after the intuous 3 series

they opened headquarters in portland in 2015

>>4653371
They stopped giving a fuck about making good tablets and got too comfortable in their seat as the #1 tablet manufacturer (a long time ago they were the only good one and had cornered the market with their patents in place). They decided to start money grubbing by using crappier material products and keep selling them for a premium price, making active area rougher than it had any right being while making nibs softer, forcing cintiq users to buy a VERY expensive adapter to enable VESA mount usage, selling cheap-ass tablet stands for $500, limiting the use of pro pens on cheap tablets even though they were compatible between the mid range and expensive tablets before, and they still don't give a single fuck about customer support, taking a page from the Adobe Support handbook; If there is a problem, ignore it or tell users that problem doesn't exist and it will surely go away.

They've been trying to cover the cheap tablet market recently, making budget versions of cintiqs and bamboos, releasing the wacom one to compete with huion, but they're made out of even shittier materials than everything else they sell which is saying something. Their cheap shit is almost on par with the knockoff brands and that's awful. Wacom has also stopped innovating and has started copying the competition. Whats the most innovative thing they've done recently, a 4k display and replacing express keys with a shitty controller that nobody wants? Wow. Spying on people with their drivers? Cool, now they can get info on what hentai Wacom users watch.

Wacom needs to wake the fuck up and realize that if these other companies are going to overtake them if they keep improving. Wacom needs to start improving again themselves, they need to start using quality materials again and quit the money grubbing bullshit.

But they won't. Sad to see an old friend go like this, but they've been digging their own grave for a while and refuse to stop.

>>4653371
The Intuos5 stylus was pure shit, like a giant bulb. best thing I ever did was buying an Intuos4 stylus for my Intuos5.

I was wondering what's the best tablet people use nowadays ? I'm stuck with my wacom bamboo ,it works fine on small screens since it's an old tablet but since i have a 4k monitor I can't draw well

>>4653430
Intuos Pro

>>4653430
>>4653654
Unfortunately, yes. Intuos pro. I'd highly recommend the medium size. Or large if you're into that and have the desk space, just know that thing is pretty fuckin big.

>>4653654
>>4653725
There's no reason to get an Intuos Pro when Deco Pro exists.

>>4653733
Yeah he asked for the best, not the cheapest "good enough" tablet. I have an intuos pro and I've tried my friends deco. Dude I'm sorry but xp-pen hasn't caught up to wacom in pen technology yet.

>>4653746
Pen differences are negligible in the current year and you can't prove that otherwise.
The Deco has a far superior shortcut button game, including a touchpad wheel.

>>4653654
>>4653725
thank you guys

I feel like a lot of artists I know have moved on to the ipad. Can get procreate, screen, portable and browse through stuff

I had a huion that worked for 4 years. Now I have a Huion Kamvas 20 that's pretty amazing as well. I've had nothing but incredible experiences with huion.

>>4653371
Same as Intel. Monopoly ultimately breeds contempt and laziness.
The problem is when no one comes close to what you're doing even in this state of degeneracy. So in a sense, thanks Xuion, XP-Pen and Apple.

>>4653960
Sad shill

>>4654083
sorry you wasted your money

Nothing. Wacom, like Apple, is still the best and will remain the best forever because Chinese and Indians are incompetent and only good at assembling the product, not designing it. Cope harder though poorfag, it won't get you a drawing tablet even half the level of quality or experience as the Apple iPad Pro 12.9 inch with Apple Pencil and Procreate or the quality experience of a Wacom 24 inch.

>>4653371
No good competition for decades.

>>4653371
No good competition for over a decade.

>>4653960
Have you ever tried top of the line wacom products? If not, that's why you think Huion is good. Huion gets the work done, but that's pretty much it.

>>4654477
I used the ipad pro for several years, 12.9. Still like Huion. How does an ipad pro compare to a cintiq?

>>4653371
Their drivers are just complete shit and require near daily bullshit just to get them to work.

>>4654522
>require near daily bullshit just to get them to work.
Been using a 24HD Cintiq for years. I had maybe 3 instances where it didn't work, and it was a conflict with Windows Ink.

I shudder to think what kind of drufucked potato computers you anons are using if you have to reinstall drivers on a daily basis.

Or, you know, you're just shitposting because you can't afford one.

>>4654419
>le smug amimeshit pic
Into the trash

>>4653371
Drivers

>>4653769
shortcut buttons differences are negligible in the current year and you can't prove that otherwise.

I can do that too

>>4653769
>The Deco has a far superior shortcut button game, including a touchpad wheel.
? people actually use tyhat shit? i just use my keyboard for everything, that shit is needless.

>>4654452
apple arnt much designers either lulw monkaw

>>4654656
Using the Deco touchpad to pan around the screen is exponentially useful, rather than annoying with the Intuos touch functionality.

>>4654452
>apple fanboys this delusional

>>4653769
>.
Intuos pro has a touchpad wheel too. Xpen sucks ass, but I guess it's ok for the price

I just bought an Intuos Pro Medium today. Should be a decent upgrade over my 20 year old Intuos that i bought used like 13 years ago.

>>4656599
Kind of gay that i had to jump through hoops and install old drivers in order to get it to work on Windows7 and dual monitors lol.

>>4653371
It was the pricing for me. Feels like wacom is excessively expensive compared to whats on the market right now. I got a tablet with 3 times the amount of hotkeys and it works well for only $70 bucks. Wacom is too up its ass about being "Number 1"

>>4653371
huion fucking annihilated them

>>4654656

Who use shortcuts buttons on a tablet ... wtf ? Set up a keyboard under your tablet and use actual keyboard hotkeys guys.

>>4656811
>Who use shortcuts buttons on a tablet
I do.
And I don't see why anyone wouldn't. Honestly, I of course use both the shortcuts and my keyboard, but I have 3 buttons that I use on my tablet constantly (if anything, sometimes tablets have more buttons than necessary). I make good use of the touchpad wheel as well.

>>4656803
can u be more delusional

>>4656888
But its true.

>>4653371
their drivers piss me off so bad, fuck me, how many times do i have to reset my settings to get my pressure sensitivity back

>>4656888
>$200 for a sweet 4k display tablet
stay mad boomer

>>4654832
>Intuos pro has a touchpad wheel too
It's a touch sensitive wheel you idiot, not a touchpad. You cannot pan around with the shitty Wacom wheel the same way you can with the Deco Pro.

Does anyone else have their tablet randomly stop working???? I have to turn it on and off for it to work. Is this a hardware problem that will only get worse? Or is it just something annoying that will never really grow into a bigger problem in the future? I have a huion kamvas btw, if that matters

Well it's Japan
Japan never heard feedback from gaijins like us and now they're dead

>>4656996
>200 for garbage tier chinkshit that has a squeaky pencil, flimsy frame and break 90% after the first 6 months

Is XP Pen catching up yet?

>>4654512
It's 2 pretty different products, so it's hard to make a proper comparison. It's a completely different feel of the surface and the pen. What they have in common are very good precision, minimisation of parallax and wobble effect, picture and color quality.
All aspects where Huion and other cheap chinese knockofs lag behind both Wacom and Apple.

>>4659708
I've upgraded from the Cintiq 16 to the XP pen 22. Frankly you hardly notice a difference when drawing.

What is nice about XP pen is that it came with a screen protector already installed, a spare pen, pen stand, extra nibs. All which Wacom charges an arm and a leg for. You can also use any run of the mill arm monitor but Wacom makes you buy their Jew arm for a couple hundred dollars.

Basically you're getting price gauged just because you wanted Wacom. Also Xp pen and Huion have caught up, the battery free pen arguement is done as wacom doesn't have the patent any more. Now they're on 24 inch monitors which are extra high definition.

>>4653371
>release new device
>a year later release new broken version of drivers that make your tablet unusable
>support tells customers it's their fault
>goyims buy a new overpriced tablet
All Wacom shills and paypigs are crabs who want other artists to waste their time fucking with drivers and looking for a new overpriced toy with self-destruction timer instead of drawing.

>>4660644
The ultimate form of crabbing

>>4660294
The only thing I really have a complaint with on xp-pen and huion is the fucking tilt and rotation. I come from a traditional art background and am used to being able to replicate that shit on my Wacom tablet. But I hate Wacom so I want to switch entirely to another company.

Bought an xp pen and there is tilt but it acts kind of weird and unnatural for me and then there's no rotation at all. What the fuck.

First of those guys to make something with tilt and rotation that feels right gets my money.

>>4653371
overpriced and still can't program a fucking driver that doesn't kill itself after like a week

>>4660652
You want to rotate the tablet or the software?

If it's the tablet get a smaller tablet or bigger desk. If it's the software I use CSP and rotate works exactly the same as wacom?

The tilt, all of them have adjustable stands which give about 3 different heights, they feel fine to me. Or get a monitor arm and move it to your exact liking. I also forgot to mention drivers in my first post, 0 issues with XP pen.


Honestly Wacom offers nothing but brand, since all the other companies now have the battery free pen. Maybe next year Xppen and Huion will offer a 4k screen. Both companies also work harder to earn your money, with sales bundles, customer service.

>>4660782
Sorry I should have specified, stylus tilt and rotation.

>>4660294
>>4660782
Do you not understand what tilt means you fucking idiot? If you do any serious painting in a program like Corel or even Krita, having tilt functionality in a pen matters a lot, and this is something your chinkshit garbage is not even close to Wacom on. The difference in pen quality and capability is real.

>>4660792
Keep shilling.

>>4661176
>no argument
No problem retard.

it has the best pen technology. every battery powered pen I've used has been garbage.

>>4662200
Apple Pencil?

>>4662200
What tablet even has a battery powered pen these days aside from apple pencils which hold charge for a month and recharge in ten minutes

Came here to start sharing my experiences with buying 7 wacoms and having them break down weeks later under light use but stayed for The discourse

>>4662200
Nobody but the cheapest random-ass tablet brands make battery pens anymore lmao. Huion and Xp-Pen (as well as gaomon I think) are on that battery less EMR tech now.

>>4662273
Apple Pencil is battery and it's rated one of the best.

>>4660792
Post your work to show how much your beloved goyim tilt matters.

>>4657348
maybe its because of windows fucking with the driver, i have the same issue with my arcade stick
or maybe its because huion is chinkshit

>>4653389
What are you actually going to improve on a drawing tablet tho? Even more levels of pressure sensitivity? Even bigger screen?

Huion is fucking garbage.

>>4664512
i agree and disagree.
my relatively new huion tablet pen stopped working and i had to open it up and solder a wire back in place, and i dont treat it roughly. In terms of drawing though i've been totally happy with it and it's very easy to adjust tablet settings

>>4664514
Yeah that's just QA issues. You're lucky it was just a wire. My first huion had an entirely fucked stylus that wouldn't register pressure sensitivity. Tried my friends stylus on my tablet and it worked. Sent it back and got a new one, works like a charm.

>>4663766
This.

>>4662273
lmao lmao

Wacom seems to just overprice everything cause they got that name recognition. Not sure if it's really cause they are so much better or just marketing at this point.

Anyone got a XP-PEN Deco Pro? Thinking about ordering one this week, and it seems to be the best tablet outside of the expensive Intuos Pro Medium which is too high for my budget right now, and the regular non-pro Intuos looks like some cheap ass piece of fucking trash honestly. I want to step up in size from my old small Bamboo.