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how do i learn to draw with soul? pic related, not technically GOOD but has SOUL

>> No.4631847

>>4631836
The reason this pic has soul to you is probably because you like the character and the games. On it's own, it's just a generic anime piece.
But telling a story is indeed one way to give your work soul.

>> No.4631850

>>4631836
>S-soul
Retarded and also have shit taste.

>> No.4631851

First you need to be able to discern soul. Your picrelated have none, it's a fake.

>> No.4631887

>>4631836
If this shit has soul then my shit has transcended

>> No.4631909

>>4631851
Don't talk about things you don't know. Suprised someone could end up on 4chan without knowing about umineko.

>> No.4631915

>>4631909
....maybe not everyone is into anime stuff????????...

>> No.4631916

>>4631909
We are talking about ****pic**** you illiterate nigger.

>> No.4631938

>>4631909
it's not even umineko...

>> No.4631946
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4631946

Have a unique style. Ryukishi's art isn't great but it's recognizable.

>> No.4631960

>>4631915
Then why are they on 4chan? A disproportionate amount of posts here will be about anime due to its high number of anime related boards and origin. This leads to population overflow where the majority of posters will become more and more saturated with animefags due to osmosis or the natural inclination of likeminded communities to form. Unless you came here in november 2003 or any years after 2014, it's highly unlikely you came here for a reason other than anime. It's simple math.

>> No.4631993

>>4631946
I agree. A lot of people by getting better tend to deviate their old art style to a more elegant and seen as "good" by pretty much everyone, but will also lose its uniqueness. That's usually why people tend to describe old artwork as soulful. Of course most of those people are crabs that just want to shit on everyone, but a part of that is true

>> No.4632007

>>4631960
Life, uhhh, finds a way anon.

>> No.4632016

>>4631836
That's not soul at all weeb
>>4631946
Repulsive.

>> No.4632042
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4632042

>>4632016
He got better over time. The Higurashi sprites are too rough even for most diehard fans. Stuff like pic related is more soulful.

>> No.4632084

>>4631993
>>4631946
Uniqueness isn't enough to make something soulful though. You can have your own style but if you use & reuse the same stuff again & again for monetary gains, forgetting your passion in the process, you'll become soulless (& most of the time it will start showing after a while).

>> No.4632111
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4632111

>>4631960
Nigga like 3/4 of this website isn't anime-related

>> No.4632141
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4632141

>>4631836
SOUL cannot be learned, it is a reflection of the vibrancy of your own life

>> No.4632153

>>4631836
all soul is is shitty art with successful elements or decent art with unsuccessful elements

youre all so fucking /beg/ that you cant identify elements of art so you just call what you dont understand soul. like savages calling fire "magic"

>> No.4632155

>>4631836
>>4632042
Both of these are ugly but I guess I can understand the fans of the author liking them. He got better but still ugly as fuck.

>> No.4632194
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4632194

These anons are on the right trail >>4632141 >>4632153
(I'd like to ask for examples of "good art with unsuccessful elements" though, to me that'd just look soulless like concept space marines or Sakimishit).

The very fact that you are asking makes it counter-productive to your goal of having soul, OP.
Soul comes from a conviction we have that the author was having fun while drawing and not only technically struggling.
By trying to FAKE soul, you take away the fun and lock yourself into the calculating cage.

You need to allow your brain to enjoy things, even if they look bad. Half (maybe it isn't 50/50, but the principle stands) of your art journey should be improving your skill, the other half improving your "creativity", which is basically fine-tuning your aesthetic sense, your taste.

The moment you're invested in making a single drawing work, you've lost the battle. Whenever you feel what you're doing has no soul (unless it's a purely technical study, then it doesn't need one), take a step back. Grab a second sheet of paper and doodle ideas. Roughly, quickly.
You will make a lot of bad drawings, but you're not trying to make a good drawing, you're trying to scavenge ideas that could be used on the real deal.

But you're not doing that mindlessly, just as an obligation. You have to do that with things that interest you. Some hairstyle you enjoy. Some stupid idea you had (Why not see how it looks? It's just scrap paper), a theme you want to explore more, so doing studies from Pinterest or some shit.

The more you keep flexing your taste muscle, the more your art will look like it has something new to say. Because it probably will. Right now you're shooting yourself in the foot by trying to follow a cake recipe without even having the same ingredients at hand.

>>4631915
As expected from the uptalking single-mothered zoomer, a parasite to the ecosystem who adds nothing of value, only saps our nutrients cause xyr vegan diet doesn't provide enough.

>> No.4632200

>>4631960
you are autistic.

>> No.4632224

Asian art souless by default.

>> No.4632239
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4632239

Exposure to R07 renders fundiefags dumbstruck. They can't comprehend that life experience, sincerity, admiration, and love will make your drawings more memorable than any amount of practice drawing shapes in perspective.

They'll be sitting in their manchild nests wondering "do I still have time to make it?" until they're senile, while R07 has collaborated with all his idols, made multiple doorstoppers complete with soundtracks, brought tens of thousands to tears, and still has the motivation to slowly, steadily improve.

His art is soulful because he's a real human being who desperately needs to make art, and not a sadbrained loser who can barely muster the motivation to pick up the stylus.

>> No.4632263

>>4632239
The cope is so bad they even made a remaster version so they wouldn't have to face the true form of his creations.

>> No.4632270

>>4632111
More than 1/3 of all the boards were created from only a couple years before moot left to now. For the first ten years of 4chans existence around 30-40% of the website was dedicated to anime and other japanese media, and many boards not directly stated to be were created for that purpose anyway, or "other hobby boards for people who like anime". It's only since ~2014 that large numbers of posters who didn't watch anime started spreading throughout the site. Now six years may seem like a long time to someone who is closer than that to his first year of highschool, but to me it's just yesterday.

>> No.4632359

>>4631836
Everyone here seems to be shitting on the OP pic, but I find early 2000's anime art style to be quite nostalgic and charming.

I wouldnt even call it "bad" art.
Just really simplified

>> No.4634044
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4634044

ZUN's art appeals to me in the same way as R07. I've started making an inspiration folder for art like this, because it gives me a bigger burst of motivation to create more than anything else. I think it does come from trying to tackle a concept you might not be proficient in but you're determined to see it through, and making it appealing to look at even if it's essentially held together by duct tape

>> No.4634049

>>4634044
Was pc98 touhou art made by someone else? Because those were gorgeous, i can't understand how he regressed in art

>> No.4634050

>>4634044
110% soul

>> No.4634059

>>4631836
Drawing with soul can be bad or good, everyone uses it whether they like it or not

>> No.4634063
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>>4634049
It looks similar to me, just a different medium. I can't find them but his pencil sketches look quite a bit better too.

>> No.4634355
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4634355

mfw i see all the seething soulless posts

>> No.4635684

>>4631847
but I don't know the character and it has soul to me.

>> No.4635706

>>4634063
Oh the Marisa art was stolen, that makes sense. I always tough that pc98 Reimu was really good too, he had a hard time going from 90's anime to early 00's anime style.

>> No.4636015

my theory is that a drawing has soul when it has the ability to convey/invoque emotion.

>> No.4636219
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4636219

SOUL

>> No.4636267
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4636267

You have to focus

>> No.4636273

>>4631909
that's Higurashi you fraud. walk off a cliff weeb

>> No.4636293
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4636293

>>4636273

If you're going to be a pedant, technically it's both.

>> No.4636294
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4636294

>>4632239
Truly... Without love, it cannot be seen...

>> No.4636313

>>4631836
saturation and contrast

>> No.4636317

ew

>> No.4636566
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4636566

>>4631847
>>4631850
>>4631851
>>4631887
>>4631915
>>4632016
>>4632153
>>4632224
if you're so sure this art is soulless then say it in red!!

>> No.4636575

>>4636293
Seriously, was every kid taught how to draw the gangster S at school? I went to a run down private christian school and the even kids there taught me to draw the damn thing, I drew it everywhere

>> No.4636613
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4636613

>>4636566
>>>/t/his+art+is+so
*ACK* *ACK*
WHAT? I CHOKED?

>> No.4636638

Based on what people usually say about SOUL, I'd say soul is about putting effort in the drawing.
If you can easily see someone put a lot of effort in a drawing, it'll have soul.

>> No.4636653

>>4636638
Then the opening picture has no soul. Stupid shallow weebs thinking they ass deep. The only thing deep is my 14 inch cock in your mama, bitch.

>> No.4636660

Without love it cannot be seen, OP

>> No.4636799

>>4634063
Early windows is probably my favourite. Zun got better at like poses and anatomy for characters but he forgets to draw their teeth in the newer ones