/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4617605
Me

>>4617605
Probably an artist.

>>4617605
a pedophile

>>4617678
die

>>4617678
you're not wrong
>>4617687
spotted the peado

>>4617678
B A S E D
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>>4617605
>le epic action pose xp

>>4617678
Nice, can I see his work? Need to coom.

ITT: seething plebbits.

>>4617806
>OMG YOU CAN'T CRITISE MY CHILD PORN ART!!!

>>4617808
That is not CP. It does not remotely look anything like CP and is not based off of a real child.
It's hyper stylized and hand drawn. There are no children being hurt since it is completely fictional. Go back to plebbit.

>>4617811

how will your parents feel if they see you drawing naked children?

>>4617811
hyper-uber-omega-post-postmodern-abstract-stylized child porn is still child porn

>>4617822
Found the pedophile who sees what he wants to see without even realizing it.

>>4617811
You forgot to mention the most important thing; this picture isn’t even vaguely sexual. At all.

>>4617831
>You see... the real paedophile was actually you all along!
Haha nah I'm pretty sure that's still you

>>4617822
>hyper-uber-omega-post-postmodern-abstract-stylized child porn is still child porn
No, it isn't. Child Porn requires a real life child to be used in the creation. Hell, nude images of underage girls aren't even considered child porn in every state, see the virgin killer album cover. No drawing can ever be considered real child porn. Is it "cartoon porn of a child"? Yeah, no shit. Is that legally the same thing as child porn? No. And it shouldn't be.

>>4617836
I personally find drawings of underage girls distasteful, but there’s a definite line between actual pornographic images of actual children and illustrations of child-like subjects.
The former is patently illegal, immoral, unethical, while the latter falls into the category of freedom of expression.

>>4617678
SUPER Based

>>4617870
>>4617852

>>4617899
>no logical, reasonable response. Resorts to insults.

Did I overestimate you, anon?

kinda weird to me how the art related boards on this site seem to be the most anti free expression

>nooooo you cant call me pedo!!! Its my freedom of expression>:((((( no one is alow to call me a pedo! 4chan is my safe space!!!!!

>>4617913
the worst thing about this board are you fucking pedos

>>4617932
Shouldn’t you be cancelling people on twitter or something, snowflake?

Stop giving (you) to trannys, they just want attention.
>>4617605
Looks like Koki.

>>4617605
I tried reverse image searching, and it appears to be a copyrighted image that used to be on a lot of 2D porn sites.
DMM is in there, which makes me think it's from a game.

https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/19244381#

>>4617678

>>4617952
Based shotanon.

>>4617678
/thread

>>4617952
Pedos are the biggest attention whores of 4chan

>>4617913
It’s just discord trannys. They don’t speak for this board.

I don't think drawing kids has to be inherently sexual. If you draw them getting fucked or in some sexual pose or situation then yeah that's pedo shit. OP's drawing has a cool blocky art style that I think looks neat, I'm also kinda curious where it's from.

>>4618014
>I don't think drawing kids has to be inherently sexual
what about naked kids like in op

>>4617678
So basically a giga chad.

>>4618018
Woops meant to write "I don't think drawing kids naked has to be inherently sexual" I don't think nudity is inherently a sexual thing. The pose in op isn't sexual either, it's like an action stance. I also hate pedo shit (japanese artists tend to be especially bad with it) but I think this one's fine.

>>4617605
She has a Tumblr face.

I want om nom nom cute squishy thighs of shotas especially if they wear glasses and have short fluffy hair om nom nom!

>>4617811
I agree with the first half of your post, but when you write
>There are no children being hurt since it is completely fictional
You out yourself as a real pedo

>it's another pedos vs trannies thread

literally fuck every single one of you niggers. Fuck OP extra for the crusty ass picture. goddamn

>>4618033
yeah I guess I agree with you. I think it's a nice drawing at least.

>ITT: closeted pedos arguing with honest pedos

The absolute state of IC, gentlemen.

update: found it.

yotsuyu on artstation

>>4618054
I almost feel like rewatching naruto but I know the animation is so bad

>>4618253
I just rewatched it actually, I think it looks fine. Sometimes the animation looks pretty good even, mostly for important fights that they would put more budget into.

whats the problem with drawing kids?

>>4618283

>>4617912
I don't think me or the other anon initially replying to you had a single "logical, reasonable response" this whole time
so yeah not really sure what you were expecting here

>>4618313
Guess we’re all just pretending to be retarded then. I suppose that’s okay.

>>4618266
Oh alright then. I need a good long running shonen to watch each morning to mimic the old days.

>>4618283
Nooooo you are only allowed to draw titty monster women and 300 pounded rpided up beefcake men. If you draw anything else I'll call you names!! Ahhhhh why are you not listening to me noooo you cant just draw cute art ahhh my fragile sensibilities ahhh my hysteria ahhh

>>4618283
It's just trannys that will never be a cute young girl getting jealous

>>4618044
How can a fictional drawing get hurt?

>>4617605
I did.

>>4618044
Not him, but I wouldn't expect the people who are quick to call pedo to also shoot up during a movie and cry murder every time someone has. Maybe it sounds absurd, but that's exactly the point. If depiction is as bad as the act, then where is the standards?

>>4618637
You're fundamentally misunderstanding the subtext here. Who can blame you though, because you're replying to a hyper emotional retard who cannot think rationally.

If you are a rational human who doesn't want to see restrictions placed on art, so long as no one in the real world is being harmed by drawings, the normie/female brain will quickly leap to accuse you of being X, Y, Z. Because in their mind, when they see a drawing that makes them upset, that is just cause for them to call for that drawing to be banned. Feels > reals

>>4617678
>>4617808
Is this actually CP ? I thought it was some kind of anthro pet mascot

>>4618699
Except people in the real world DO get harmed by pedo art. People typically look at that stuff for sexual satisfaction, eventually it won’t be enough or they’ll just have to try the real thing for themselves out of curiosity.

Why do pedos hate being called a pedo?
its just a word

>>4618752
Punish the crime, not the thought.

>>4618752
I read this and remembered of violent games and media from 90~10s, or movies, or books

>>4618813
bcuz normies will lynch you if they discover ur a pedo

>>4618860
There’s an actual point to games, there’s points/ times, actual feedback. You typically play a game to win. You read books and watch movies to get immersed in a narrative/ learn things/ talkabout them with other people. You can’t say the same for the much more deliberate and intimate act of seeking and jerking off to CP.

>>4618884
I play games to have sex with children.

>>4618813
They don’t hate being called pedo, they hate being rightfully despised by the general population because they are one

>>4618884
>>4618873
>>4618860
>>4618829
>>4618752
Educate yourselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT8JVVlGIEA

>>4618873
Shouldn't normies lynch themselves because they're creating children?

>>4618903
>creating life = fucking children
This is your brain on CP

>>4618884
I'm not him but I don't get your point. Would you be okay with pedophilia in a book or a movie, as long as there's narrative? Is it okay for a game to feature pedophilia, as long as there are win conditions? What about games without win conditions? Is it win condition + pedophilia = okay, no win condition + pedophilia = bad?

>>4618893
Wow, pedo gets recognition for doing the absolute least he can to be a decent person, so educational

>>4618904
You can fuck what doesn't exist.

>>4618752
Proof= my ass
That's like blaming murderers for watching horror films, the only difference is that there are many cases of psychos blaming movies for inspiration but none of pedos blaming loli art.

>>4618908
cant*

>>4618906
how can u get help when the help will call the police on u. gotta love people like u

"Drawing sexualized lolis is not real art"
Except it is, look at my nigga Balthus whose whole career was being an open pedo drawing little girls. If it had an anime face and was instead made in copics this wouldn't be considered art but since it was made by some nigga in the 50's it's hanged in museums.

>>4618905
The point is that playing a game or experiencing a narrative is very different from media that exists solely/ primarily to satisfy your inappropriate sexual fantasies

>Would you be okay with pedophilia in a book or a movie, as long as there's narrative?
Yes because if it isn’t smut they’ll be an actual point to it’s inclusion
>Is it okay for a game to feature pedophilia, as long as there are win conditions?
It’s not a game if there aren’t win conditions. Again as long as there’s a narrative, themes being explored, etc... and the entire game isn’t shallow smut then yea it’s fine.

>>4618909
That’s because violence is more socially acceptable than wanting to fuck kids. Also like murderers, pedos have a number of mental illnesses and disorders that set the stage for them to be that way. Nobodies saying that loli art creates the pedos, just that it encourages and normalizes the feelings for them so that they’re more likely to seek the real thing.
>(low effort reply about horror movies normalizing and encouraging murder)
>blah blah violent video games and movies
The way you interact with those things in different than the way you interact with smut. See >>4618884 and >>4618924

>>4618924
>media that exists solely/ primarily to satisfy your inappropriate sexual fantasies
What is wrong with this besides making you feel uncomfortable? The majority of lolicons never offend or there would not be millions of them posting online and hosting imageboard websites. Your premise is false, your ideas are wack, and faggot, I'm sick of seeing you whine. I can jerk off just to the thought of a 12 year old bouncing on my dick, so you can't stop me.

>>4618924
A game doesn't have to have win conditions but okay. You make progress in Animal Crossing but you don't really ever "win." Doesn't matter though.
It seems like the actual distinction you're making is between porn and "art." So porn bad art good, or at least art okay. But then you need to define what makes a work porn and what makes it art. I know there are legal definitions, but nobody agrees precisely on them.
I'm not buying this idea of a clear, hard line between the two. If your concern is that pedophiles are getting off to loli, they're not going to give a shit about "moral content" or "themes" in a movie or video game, as long as it's visually stimulating to them.
You're also making a large logical leap that doesn't seem to make sense. Why is it just loli/fictional pedophilia that's a gateway to the real thing? Why isn't tons of bad shit happening all the time as a result of fucked up pornography in general?

>>4618939
>it encourages and normalizes the feelings for them so that they’re more likely to seek the real thing.
That is EXACTLY what people said about movies/videogames. They also had the exact same faggot talking point that "it's" different too, except it was in relation to books and other fiction, rather than what you're proposing. What you're saying is something that almost never, if at all, happens, to the point it has no more validity than an argument against videogames. It doesn't MATTER what feelings you think it encourages, that's not your problem to police, you don't get to decide what people think and feel. Should anarchist literature be banned for encouraging anti-social sentiment? Should we ban recipes for unhealthy food, cause let me tell you people are pretty damn weak when it comes to restraining themselves against food. The answer is no, it's always no, no matter what you personally feel about it, because it's not yours or anyone elses decision to decide what other people think. I don't fucking CARE if reading lolicon stimulates those desires and brings them to the front of their mind. That's their fucking problem and rest assured, the FBI is almost certainly watching them to make sure they do not do anything.

Admit it, you fucking lying dishonest faggot, you don't really care about any of your argument and just want some excuse to justify your hatred of lolicon. You must have thought loooooooong and hard to come up with this bullshit.

>be me, a 37yo male
>watches loli porn for +-10 years
>finds real kids annoying as fuck

>>4618941
The problem is that it encourages and normalizes the desire and because of that you’ll eventually pose a danger to real kids.

Offending =/= convicted. You can absolutely offend and not be rotting in jail because of it. There’s lots of forums and whatnot for people who are into eating shit, doesn’t make it any less gross.

Yea that’s fine, you’re allowed to imagine your 12 year old sister bouncing in your dick but that doesn’t change that you’re a disgusting freak who is hated by almost everyone for doing it.

>>4618924
Meanwhile people killing npcs on GTA just because.

>>4618962
>The problem is that it encourages and normalizes the desire and because of that you’ll eventually pose a danger to real kids.
[citation needed]

>>4618962
>The problem is that it encourages and normalizes the desire
> and because of that you’ll eventually pose a danger to real kids.
No, lol. I'm not going to agree with your faggot premise. Find another talking point.

>>4618951
You win AC when you collect all the items. Let me give you a hand, a snuff film and idk, Hellraiser are two very different things.Yea there’s no hard line, it exists on a spectrum but no matter how much your CP addled brain wants to believe, your loli shit has no artistic merit, plain and simple. Porn is fine but porn featuring children is not.
>if your concern is that pedophiles are getting off to loli, they're not going to give a shit about "moral content" or "themes" in a movie or video game, as long as it's visually stimulating to them.
Pedos will always find a way to get off but that doesn’t mean that the topic itself should be taboo. Again, media exploring pedophilia is okay and media explicitly designed to sexually satisfy them is not.
> Why is it just loli/fictional pedophilia that's a gateway to the real thing?
Jeez CPs really fried your brain huh. Nobody ever said that, child models and parents are just as bad. We’re just talking about loli anime garbage because that’s what was initially brought up, read the thread.

>>4618953
Porn is designed to satisfy sexual desires (read: things they want to do in real life in some capacity). For my response to the rest of your predictable, low effort, reply see what I said to the other dipshits in this thread/ post

>>4618966
You don’t have to agree with it for it to be true. Try again pedo

>>4618998
>Porn is designed to satisfy sexual desires (read: things they want to do in real life in some capacity)
not necessarily, many people have a rape fetish but only the minority will act upon it, same for zoophilia.

>>4619001
i'm a pedo yes, not that anon, but still. still haven't acted on a child nor ever planned to because i have a brain and a life that i don't want to destroy just because of my penis

>>4618962
>The problem is that it encourages and normalizes the desire and because of that you’ll eventually pose a danger to real kids.

Demonstrate this or you have no argument. I know you won't even believe this, but I'm not a pedophile. Kids are gross to me. I'm just more neutral on the point of artistic/fictional depictions of pedophilia, and firmly against real CP. I'm pro free expression generally even if I don't like the expression.
Call me crazy, but I don't think I'm a bad person for this. And every time the argument inevitably gets to this point we're at, the anti-loli side chickens out. You always get emotional about it and can't argue your point that you believe so strongly in. When the violent video game comparison is rightfully brought up, you always say "but that's different" without logically explaining how, or you accuse your opponent of dishonesty.

Just explain what the difference is. Explain why only loli out of every fucked up thing across all media, why only that encourages the real act. I can come up with a laundry list of reasons why fucking real little kids is bad bad bad. Can you do the same for the fictional version?

>>4618998
>Jeez CPs really fried your brain huh.
Yep, there it is, there's the ad hom I've come to expect from your type. No really, fuck CP. My question goes beyond the sexualization of kids. Why aren't people raping and murdering as a result of the fiction they consume? Your type always dodges and deflects this very simple question.

>>4619001
Answer me, why do actual pedofiles like you want loli to be banned so badly? It keeps happening on twitter and the UN.

>>4619006
Rape porn is fine as long as it’s 2 consenting adult actors acting out that power dynamic. And yea of course not EVERY rapist or dogfucker will rape( a dog ) but that doesn’t make ACTUAL people who think about raping strangers any less disgusting.

>>4619014
I’ve yet to see a formal study that says that but I draw that info from experiences I’ve had with people in real life. If I see a study while this thread is still up I’ll throw it your way.

I’ve already explained how DOOM is different than a picture of a child playing with an erect penis is different. Real my previous posts.

It’s not ad hominem if I addressed your points sentences earlier in the same post, dumbass.

>>4619028
we talking about loli hentai, no one here is defending cp

>>4619048
Anecdote and confirmation bias, I got ya. Let's decide what is moral and what is art based on your personal experiences then, that can't possibly go wrong.

>I’ve already explained how DOOM is different than a picture of a child playing with an erect penis is different.
No, you're being real cute and I'm not having it. Explain why killing civilians in GTA doesn't encourage mass shootings in real life. Let me remind you that real life mass shooters and murderers have actually attributed inspiration to video games. But smart, informed, well-adjusted people generally reject this narrative. Are you seeing the dissonance here? See what I'm getting at?

>>4619051
And hentai is designed to satisfy the fantasies you can’t preform in real life. Cmon guy, read the thread

>>4619066
yeah, i agree, what are you talking about?

>>4619048
>I’ve yet to see a formal study that says that but I draw that info from experiences I’ve had with people in real life.

>thunder hitting a human won't kill them, i survived it so i know better

>it encourages and normalizes the feelings for them so that they’re more likely to seek the real thing.

What so? like I care, not my problem anymore.

>>4619072
Nice try chomo, my point still stands though. Try >smoking isnt guaranteed to kill you, but the likelihood of it is very high

>>4619073
So you’re rightfully seen in a worse light and will be targeted by 99 percent of the population. That’s all :)

>>4619107
smoking has a data backing it up, what you said have not. plus, the chances to survive being hit by thunder is very high, if you couldn't even check that fact why should i even believe what you said here?

>>4619114
>That’s all :)

>>4619048
>I’ve yet to see a formal study that says that but I draw that info from experiences I’ve had with people in real life
So you are
full
of
shit

>>4617605

Whats wrong with her feets?

>>4618998
>Porn is fine but porn featuring children is not.
Okay, let's break this down
Why?
>because it sexualizes a bad thing
That's not enough justification, there's no law against glorifying bad things
>because it makes people rape kids
it empirically does not
>because it could encourage people to have bad desires
Again, not enough justification. I'm sorry you can't comprehend this but you don't get to control what people do and do not desire, you can't even without insane technology so it's a moot point.
>well i still hate you for it
Yeah, you're allowed to. Your feelings don't make it illegal though and if they did such a law wouldn't be valid anyway.

Did I miss anything?

>>4617605
Looks like something out of Wakfu/Dofus.

>>4619203
kids can't consent by law, that's the problem with cp

>>4619213
Good thing lolis aren't real, you fucking idiot.

>>4619220
>>4619213
>Porn is fine but porn featuring children is not
>porn featuring children
>featuring children
>children
?

>>4619226
Either you're pretending we haven't been extensively talking about lolicon, or you actually think that fictional characters must be able to consent in simulated porn.

>>4619231
first one

>>4619238
Well, I'm never going to argue that snuff films should be legal, but the entire thread has been started by a post of a DRAWN girl.

Wait hold up I just had an epiphany oh no no no no
Don't tell me people think loli is CP because they can't draw without a reference AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>4619203
This isn’t really about laws anon. Lolicon/ CP is bad whether a judge agrees or not. It encourages it, whether or not there’s a formal study about that particular question you can look at other focusing on people’s relationship with sexual media and come to the same conclusion. I know you really don’t want a guilty conscience from jerking off to lolis but come on.

>>4619231
Are you really gonna pretend that pornography doesn’t simulate what the consumer wants to do/ finds stimulating in real life ?

>>4619252
games too simulate what the consumer wants to do/finds stimulating in real life

>>4619226

>>4619248
>>4619252
See >>4619203
I don't feel guilty jerking off to lolis because I don't think it's wrong in any sense, but for the sake of comprehension I am assuming the same moral position as you. If we were just discarding all moral objectivity, I would tell you to fuck off and shut up, and that I'm going to do what I want.

>>4619257
Yea, which is to compete , optimize strategies, and win. Porn on the other hand simulates power dynamics, some of which (in the case of lolicon ) are particularly inappropriate because of how wildly uneven they are

Loli hentai > Kids
Who would want to fuck kids anyway, it's risky, you'll be way too preoccupied on being caught, they have 0 experience and you have to plan waaay too much to be able to fuck kids. It's pretty much the same as anal sex, watching it is one thing, but actually doing it is way too much work. That's why I stick with lolis and haven't bothered dealing with kids. And now I'm on a list.

>>4619274
Oh fuuuuuuuck no don't even get me started on the bullshit that is power dynamics. You've lost what little respect your arguments had from me.

>>4619274
There are games where people kill for the sake of killing and not to win.
Killing NPCs sadistically is a power dynamic too, so what? Am I gonna start killing people on the street without giving a fuck?

>>4619252
>pornography doesn’t simulate what the consumer wants to do
There are different ways that people consume porn. I know someone who enjoys drawing babycon shit, but he gets off on the fact that he draws such taboo stuff, not because he's looking at a baby.
I like size difference and dominance, but in real life I don't. After encountering a hookup where the guy put his hand around my neck just because I mentioned in passing "I'm a bit of a sub", I was mortified.
In fiction, I love dominance like that, but it can stay away from me in real life. You can't just judge people by the stuff they jack off to. Everyone has a reason for the fetishes they have.

>>4619274
So basically you think it should be illegal to sell media that depicts things you consider wrong in a good or appealing light. Well sonny have I got about three thousand science fiction novels for you.

>>4619284
I don't even understand how it's an argument though. "You should be jailed for wanting to do something", what the fuck, no.

>>4619280
I don’t give a single fuck about how much respect a pedo has for my arguments. You shouldn’t have even responded if you’re not gonna add anything to the conversation
>>4619281
Were talking about sexual power dynamics specifically. Sorry, didn’t think I had to spell it out for you.
>>4619284
I understand that there can be a nuance to it. As for your friend nobody can stop him from doing that, if they’re even aware of it in the first place but the real problem begins if/ when he distributed those pics.
I also recognize that what you like in porn can differ from what you like In real life, however that doesn’t mean that it’s suddenly okay to sexualize just anything.
>>4619285
I never said that. If you read the thread I actually think exploring pedophilia is okay as long as it’s not smut and that there’s an actual point to any of it :)

>>4619302
>If you read the thread I actually think exploring pedophilia is okay as long as it’s not smut
And I think you're wrong, the smut is fine. I've already explained why I think the reasons you have for it being illegal are invalid. I don't fucking CARE that you think inappropriate things shouldn't be sexualized. I only care about the reasons why, and your reasons are all garbage that I don't believe are factual at all. I have never, ever seen a compelling argument against any kind of fictional porn that doesn't appeal to a morality that I personally do not share.

>>4619302
>Were talking about sexual power dynamics specifically.
Oh, what about rape, don't think everyone watching rape porn is a rapist.

>>4619322
I assume because "It's le different :^)"

>>4619322
See
>>4619028

>>4619063
Because it’s a game and the point of killing people in GTA is to get stars to make killing more difficult and really display their mastery of the controls. It’s basically pac man but with cops and robbers. Like any game the point isn’t to kill ghosts/ aliens/ etc... it’s to optimize a strategy to meet a win condition and maybe even compete with other players.

What’s you get off on is not a game though. And the exact same rules can’t apply. I know you’re loli addled brain might have a hard time grasping that but keep at it, you’ll get it eventually !

>>4618037
Unironically think the middle one looks appealing

>>4619381
>Because it’s a game and the point of killing people in GTA is to get stars to make killing more difficult and really display their mastery of the controls. It’s basically pac man but with cops and robbers. Like any game the point isn’t to kill ghosts/ aliens/ etc... it’s to optimize a strategy to meet a win condition and maybe even compete with other players.
>What’s you get off on is not a game though. And the exact same rules can’t apply. I know you’re loli addled brain might have a hard time grasping that but keep at it, you’ll get it eventually !
I disagree

>>4619381
Then why do games with different themes exist? Surely GTA could have just been collecting stars by tossing groceries at grannies if it was just the goal system that matters, also let's talk about how it trains your brain to connect killing people with success of goals. No really, lets talk about it.

>>4619381
Acting rape is not the same as rape, you're still consenting, this is pretty much RPing but in a room at your home with someone you know but telling yourself you don't.
Nnice try avoiding what was said. If the problem were to be power dynamics causing people to act on kids, why the same doesn't happen with rape porn causing people to rape.

>>4619401
Yea it very well could have. It doesn’t connect killing people to success of goals because killing people isn’t all GTA is about. There’s and entire narrative surrounding a ton of missions, a lot of them that don’t require you to kill anyone to succeed

>>4619409
>if the problem were to be power dynamics causing people to act on kids, why the same doesn't happen with rape porn causing people to rape.

It’s not that rape porn or CP has this magical property that causes all who look at it to rape(kids), it’s that, at least with loli stuff it often desensitizes you to the real thing. People successfully and consensually play out rape fantasies all the time and that’s fine but there’s no way to consensually play out some pedos fantasy of molesting/ fucking a child. Instead of even looking at the stuff pedos should just get some serious therapy/ counseling or just kill themselves

>>4619464
>It’s not that rape porn or CP has this magical property that causes all who look at it to rape(kids), it’s that, at least with loli stuff it often desensitizes you to the real thing. People successfully and consensually play out rape fantasies all the time and that’s fine but there’s no way to consensually play out some pedos fantasy of molesting/ fucking a child. Instead of even looking at the stuff pedos should just get some serious therapy/ counseling or just kill themselves
Desensitization to loli won't make you seek the kids, where did you get this from?

>>4619381
>the point of killing people in GTA is to get stars to make killing more difficult and really display their mastery of the controls
>display their mastery of the controls.

The fuck are you rambling about, retard? I'm done being patient with you since you clearly have nothing insightful to say.
Have you ever actually played GTA? Unless the purpose of the current mission is to kill people, killing in GTA strictly hinders the player, as it attracts the police, potentially resulting in a Game Over. There's literally no reason to break laws outside of missions in GTA, yet most players intentionally do so, and it's actually a major selling point of the game. Why? Because it's fucking fun. But it doesn't follow that players who break laws in GTA, a virtual video game, will break laws in the real world. And it doesn't follow that dudes who spank it to fictional cartoon drawings of imaginary characters, no matter how young they may appear, will diddle kids. UNLESS you can demonstrate that. Which you can't and haven't, repeatedly.

At this point you're reading directly from the same script all of you do every time you're challenged by anybody, no matter how reasonably and moderately, on your mental gymnastics. Just stop. You write like you're underage, ironically.

>>4619544
>Have you ever actually played GTA?
Yes
> Why? Because it's fucking fun
Yes but why is it fun ? Because they get good at doing it, mastery of the controls that allows them to get away with more than the guy who is playing it for the first time

There’s nothing to demonstrate because all media and the way we consume it isn’t the same. I’ve explained this many times already. I recommend that you read through the thread before you ask another redundant question <3

>>4619394
Probably cause it's close to your style

>>4618705
Also viewed it as anthro at first impression. Maybe it could serve as a furry litmus test

>>4619558
>Yes but why is it fun ? Because they get good at doing it, mastery of the controls that allows them to get away with more than the guy who is playing it for the first time
Not everyone play because getting good at something is fun, some just like to chill kill. GTA isn't a competitive game. And it's no like GTA is the game people seeking the git gud feeling goes for.

Still waiting on the rape porn case.

>>4619572
Nobody said you had to be in the top tier of GTA players to find it fun. What I said still stands though, that’s the reason you find any video game fun.

Already addressed rape porn twice. I know it’s hard to read the thread but your gonna have to do a lot more reading than that when you start middle school in a few months :)

>>4619558
>It's differen't :)
>It isn't the same :)
>I can find an arbitrary difference between an apple and orange, therefore one is a fruit and the other isn't

Playbook #1: When challenged on your biases or double standards, speak vaguely on the differences between your preferred medium and the demonized medium. Exaggerate these differences, but never specify them, i.e. "There's a big difference between..." Always obfuscate, always misdirect. If you must specify, don't EVER explain why the chosen difference is relevant to the question at hand. Just pick any arbitrary difference and inflate its importance as much as possible. If someone questions you on this, attack his character and credibility.

I sleep well at night knowing I'm for unlimited art and expression, except when it directly brings harm to an individual, and that I'll never harm a kid. Keep telling yourself everybody who disagrees with you is a dirty childfucker though, ignorance is bliss after all.

>>4619588
Your inability to understand a clear line of thought =/= vagueness on my part. Like I told the other lolicons here, read the thread before you regurgitate points I’ve already addressed.

>>4619464
>there’s no way to consensually play out some pedos fantasy of molesting/ fucking a child
I mean you could hire a petite legal stripper

>>4619585
Show me some data about rape porn, and loli, desensitization causing you to go out and rape people or kids.
And keep in mind, being desensitized to the depiction of something like sex or violence (porn/gore in movies/video) is not the same as being desensitized to sex or violence in real life, if you think they are the same then you never saw a dead body in front of you.

>>4619600
Gigantic faggot

>Loli argument thread #438975982

Can we PLEASE stop having these threads they have be argued to many times before see:

>>/ic/thread/S4546067
>>/ic/thread/S4143735
>>/ic/thread/S4579499
https://boards.fireden.net/ic/thread/4450824
https://boards.fireden.net/ic/thread/4071753

>>4619603
Can any kiddie fuckers weigh in on this ?

>>4619607
http://www.ncdsv.org/images/COPS_Child-Pornography-on-the-Internet_5-2006.pdf

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213418304526

https://psyarxiv.com/vpydn/

it'll be great if loli gets banned. Dragging it under the same 'illegal' umbrella will normalize CP as a result, and push more people to tor.

>>4619663
It’s so tiring

>kids
>Drawn sexually
>Kids are not sexual
>Inb4 "hurr Durr if u think it's sexy ur the pedo'

>>4617605
A legend who made people blown the fuck out because they were talented and used it on loli porn.

>>4619683
>Legislation has attempted to broaden the law to include computer-generated images (virtual images that do not involve real children) and people over 18 who appear to be minors. However, the court overturned both of these provisions.
Seems pretty clear cut to me.

>>4619683
I doubt you read what you sent, if you did u wouldn't send it since it doesn't prove anywhere that CP (not even loli hentai) contributes to someone acting on a kid

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213418304526
this only shows that the child porn users started seeing children in porn as not real or sexualized while offline they saw children as just the average european/american kid. this already happens in adult porn and there is nothing saying those people would have a higher chance to act on kids.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kelly_Babchishin/publication/260809955_Online_Child_Pornography_Offenders_are_Different_A_Meta-analysis_of_the_Characteristics_of_Online_and_Offline_Sex_Offenders_Against_Children/links/0a85e53295e9da95e7000000.pdf
this is what one of your articles used

and i'll need the 3-4 sources used for that fist on from 2006

notes on the image explaining that its more of a social problem and not pornography one

try again because there was no data proving pornography facilitated sexual abuse

>>4619908
t. pedo who hasn't acted on any kid ever but watches loli at least once a weak
thanks for the read, post more

The year is 2020 and people still don't have a clear case of 1000yo dragon girl hentai causing child rape irl

>>4619958
Because it's not fucking real and never was and all these arguments are just a way for someone to try to get rid of something they don't like because it bothers them.

>>4619908
Nice

Pedos rejoice

>>4621072
stop bumping this shit thread

why cant I jerk off to short flat chest girls

>>4617605
what in the shoddily color theory misuse is this?

>>4622346
Because trannies said so

>>4617605
https://twitter.com/yisaotrane8416

brehs..

>>4617678
holy reddit

The lolicucks are seething again, kek. They are always over defensive when someone shit on their retarded shit.

>>4624683
>defensive
You're a pedophile and you will say nothing to me or anybody else or else you're being defensive. Fuck this website and it's list of stupid fucking buzzwords. Kill yourself please.

>>4617605
>Lol @ the Anon's ranting about pedo shit when this is clearly stylized proportions.

The artist is Yoh Yoshinari.

>>4624828
>the artist is yoh yoshinari

that seems wrong. i thought that was by a guy who comes here

>>4621571
ok

>>4624742
based ty

All this for a fucking drawing wew..

>>4617687
hehehe....

>>4617605
Ok but did we ever answer the question of "who made this?"

>>4624742
>seething

>>4617952
Seems worlds away from koki, even if the shading is in the same broad style

looks like STEALTHNACHO

>>4618924
Gta counters your claim. one of the main appeals of Gta is you can randomly kill or do nearly anything to Npcs that aren't apart of a story mission or a challenge mission. Even changing the race of the Npcs to alians would make the game lose some of it's appeal since there would be a massive disconnect of immersion. do you think parents would try to cancel mortal combat if the whole cast where a completely different species that don't exist while not looking like something that does exist or resembling a humanoid or animal forms.

>>4617678
this,THIS SO MUCH. have an upvote kind sir

>>4627099
>upvote
Kys faggot

>>4617605
loli cheems

>>4626768
>>4624828
scroll up
>>4622424
>>4618136

>>4617811
Based anon

>>4618752
That's a self discipline issue then
Also
>3DPD

>>4618939
>Also like murderers, pedos have a number of mental illnesses and disorders that set the stage for them to be that way.
Honestly you have no idea what you are talking about, most murders are mentally stable, neurotypical individuals who only kill out of circumstance. You are probably talking about serial killers.

>>4618959
>be me, 29 yo male
>read hardcore loli dojins
>sees my 8 and 9 year old niece naked after the shower everyday
>feel nothing

>>4627811
According to the discord trannys you’re a pedophile. They just want to segway it into curbing freedom fo thought and expression

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