/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Krita sucked ass on pc so probably not. I’m gonna stick with sketchbook

>>4607779
good enough for what? hobby yes, work no.

>>4607793
>>4607789
I thought the biggest argument of ipad over android was the lack of decent art apps.
That CSP is on iPad and Android had nothing
I thought Krita was good

>>4607779
Shit's gonna erase your tablet and burn your house down.

>>4607826
i can't use krita as a crutch like i do on csp and that crutch is really nice for speeding up my final lineart. not a deal breaker for a hobbie.

also, crashes. krita is already not the most stable app. so, it being in beta is a no no unless i'm just experimenting with it or it gets a stable release.

>>4607837
What do you mean? Not familiar with iOS stuff

>>4607826
> I thought krita was good

yeah, i've seen this on /ic all the time ... that's when I knew /ic was full of shit

>>4607841
i paint on pc only, cant deal with small screen

>>4607779
Samsung should fund development of Krita on android tablets. If the mobile UI got good enough they could advertise Krita as a "android's answer" to procreate and photoshop for digital painting. Even hiring another developer to work on Krita android would make them more money on their tablets.

No matter how powerful Krita is the UI screams "IT WAS MADE FOR DESKTOPS"

>>4607826
>>4607846
/ic/ hates Krita and practically shits on it in every thread, just like this thread, don't you know?

>>4608092
They'd be infinitely better off with CPS or Sketchbook.

Krita is a bad software, it has always been a bad software, and it will always be a bad software because the people working on it care more about obscure platform support and catching up to Adobe than having a stable product. Procreate beat them in two years. Manga Studio beat them in 5. I wouldn't be surprised if fucking Gimp managed to have perfect Windows stability before Krita.

>>4608099
/ic/ shits on it because its not in a state where it is user friendly to artists

>>4608136
Or designers.

>>4608136
huh, i swear i saw krita still being advertised on /ic just a couple of weeks ago. but either way, my issues with it all have to with it's poor brush engine and memory management (which becomes apparent when working with large assets and +20 hour projects). I didn't have that much issue with interface after setting it up the way i wanted it too.

>>4608199
The kritafags always shitpost CSP threads, but it's generally known that Krita is not yet stable and not something you should use for any serious project unless you literally have no cash at all, you refuse to use Gimp and for whatever reason Sketchbook/SAI aren't enough.

What's wrong with Krita anyway? The only difference I see with it vs CSP is that it doesn't have the cheat doll.

>>4607779
Android Krita doesn't have a tablet friendly UI yet, it's just a direct port from PC with the PC interface, sliders, menus and an expectation of hotkeys.

But Android has Infinite Painter which is just as capable if not better than Procreate. Also sketchbook, medibang and the other stuff.

> the new 12 inch one is out this year
Yeah I'm getting that one when it's out.

>>4608136
>/ic/ shits on it because its not in a state where it is user friendly to artists

IC isn't one fucking person.
The people who shit on krita are CSP fanboys and fags because they are gay.

Krita is fucking fantastic and the only tool I ever use now. Maybe the vector layer in CSP makes line art easier, but you know what's more important? NOT SWITCHING TO PHOTOSHOP. Krita's editing features can replace PS for the artists and you won't need to switch back and forth between the apps.

It's also faster, more performant and stable than CSP.

>>4608221
Butthurt csp fanboys.

>>4608243
>muh CSP

>>4608245
Lol how bad is your computer

>>4608210
that's something i didn't get. it's been going for like 10 years, how is it 'not stable yet'? yes, it's open source but krita has a commercial side so that's not an excuse. and telling people not to use it for serious projects is a huge lack of faith in your product. If you want people like me to buy into it as an alternative to photoshop, expect that i will use it at least one time like i would photoshop.

>>4608251
My computer is fast enough to run Krita just fine.

>>4608252
Afaik Krita has a problem with saving in the past. And crashed sometimes on one odd version yers ago too. RN krita is the only tool I use and I have no complaints at all. It's as stable as it gets.

>>4608136
You can shit on Krita for a lot of reasons (and I surely do) but calling it "not user friendly" would be one of the last.
If you come from Photoshop, GIMP (what the fuck is wrong with you?) or Clip Studio Paint, you will quickly adapt to Krita. It has almost the same functionality. Some shortcuts are different, but you can customize that if you really don't want to learn.
When you come from SAI or you're a complete beginner, you will have more troubles but that's what it takes to learn any of the softwares I mentioned above.

If there are some of you who still wonder if Krita is good or not, simply test it, it's free. You will waste your time listening to people on /ic/ instead of doing things by yourself.

>>4608210
>kritafags always shitpost CSP threads

People should really stop shilling Krita in CSP threads. Overshilling is the fastest way to turn people off from something. It would be just as annoying if people were shilling CSP in photoshop threads or vice versa.

>>4608221
Some of the things I like about CSP more than Krita is

>Easier to use stabilizer
>Better text tool
>On "weaker" computers CSP will run better compared to Krita
>Better brush manager, Krita's is still a mess where brushes randomly disappear from tags, overwriting new settings in the brush creates a duplicate brush.
>Bigger selection of user made brushes
>Better vector tools

>>4608225
One of the biggest things Krita would need to do is implement touch gestures like CSP has in pic related to be usable as a tablet program. The most important thing a tablet ui needs is to not have the use a keyboard at all.

>>4607779
BUY THE 1000$ IPAD

BUY THE 100$ PENCIL

DO IT

>>4608241
>It's also faster, more performant and stable than CSP.
All literal lies. CSP performs better in my 4gb ram 3rd gen I3 laptop than Krita does in my Ryzen 7 32gb workstation.

CSP has never, ever closed or crashed, that alone makes it better than Krita and PS for me.

>>4608434
>than Krita does in my Ryzen 7 32gb workstation.
I have a Ryzen 7 workstation and I get this >>4608245
This is my performance on an overclocked 2700X.

You probably didn't fiddle with performance setting in Krita, CSP doesn't fucking have any.

>>4608439
That has never happened to me, shit just moves real time.
And even if it did, taking less than a second for a hamhand transform displacement to render is less aggravating than the fucking software crashing when you try to save and corrupting your file.

Krita is not functional. I don't care how many bells and whistles they steal from PS or Procreate or how many meme OS it "works" in until it's 100% stable in fucking WINDOWS.

>>4608241
not sure about that better performance than CSP but I just cant leave sai. and is not like i want

but kirta has a trash performance.like many other software. bloated stuff that only focus on features but the core engine sucks.

I try to like krita and i use it sometimes but nothing beats sai on this side.

>>4608394
>BUY THE 10$ PAD
>BUY THE 1$ PENCIL
>DO IT
Fixed for you buddy! Don’t stray away from true path

>>4607779
I don't think they have a concept yet on how they want to tackle the UI issues that arise from a touch device. Sure theres one or two touch dockers but thats about it. It also didnt even manage to scale properly on my tablet screen and i got a cut off UI. So I don't think this will be a thing any time soon.

On a windows tablet like the surface pro it is painfully evident that touch was never in the focus of development until recently but on windows you can at least use something like tablet pro to have a usable touch UI by a third party software. though i personally haven't tried it myself yet the videos i've seen look promising so i'm thinking of getting it for my surface.
https://youtu.be/1G440tdvbCs

>>4607826
Not really sure why everyone else hates it but it's a buggy from my experience.
Plus managing brushes and everything is absolutely painful.

>>4609027
They plan on developin a whole new different UI, there are money to be had in mobile space, but right now they are just testing the engine, performance and stability.

Right now Android Krita is not really a product but a preview/test

OP here
What about Infinite Painter?
I'm just wondering if Android can be on par with iPad for actual drawing since I prefer android tablets

I wish MyPaint was on Android. That program is the shit, even if it isn't necessarily the most practical for actual work. I used to fuck around drawing and painting on those infinite canvases for hours back in my teens...

>>4607779
Samsung tablets are as good as the ipad pro with the pen from 2018 ?
Genuine question since I do not like Apple and their closed ecosystem.

fellow kritafags i have a question, is there any way to speed up the gradient maps n shit. For some reason its really fucking slow when applying one, it shows up by blocks and shit im sure its fixable.
my cpu is an i7-6700k, gpu rx 470 20gb ram.
im running it on manjaro, stable 4.2.9. I usually do a4 600 dpi.

>>4609265
Gradient map is just slow, adjustment layers are even slower.

There are two ways around that though.
1 use "cross channel curve adjustment"
It's basically the same and it's blazing fast even as an adjustment layer BUT you'll have to do everything by hand. You can use the saturation/lightness and hue/lightness curves to colorize a grayscale or lightness/lightness curve for contrast and detail.
It's actually an almighty tool for very detailed color correction and everybody should know it.

2 rather than using an adjustment layers duplicate the group, merge the duplicate and apply the gradient map as a filter rather than an adjustment layer. Keep the old group for backup if you want to change or redo your map.

>>4609307
Oh nice, didn't know about that. Thank you!

>>4609240
the pen is nicer to draw with I think but the apps are not as good

Reminder that CSP stole Krita colorize mask.

Now if only procreate released the pc version

>>4609356
isn't that the same guy that draws the same face every day for years?

>>4607779
You can get a 2048x1536 10" ChromeOS tablet with a stylus for under $300. Those are now Krita workstations.

Anybody have those tablets that can connect to android phones? How are they with Krita? Please state what tablet you have too. Thanks

>>4613588
This is with my Deco 01 V2, works fine with pressure and tilt.

>>4608394
>BUY THE 10000$ IPAD
>BUY THE 1000$ PENCIL
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