/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4599641
wtf is that im,age ths aint no /asg/

Help?

>>4599660

>>4599660
try shading it

I'm having a hard time drawing what i see. I've done some exercises in drawing on the right side and tried copying things but i cannot get the overall form down. Is the best course of action to do more copy exercises like upside down or without looking, or should i just copy regularly more?

>>4599672
What's the problem? You drew the banana just fine.

I literally only started drawing "seriously" maybe four days ago. I think it's only just starting to hit me how much information you have to retain in order to draw something actually decent looking. How the hell do people keep all this info in their heads? Am I just a brainlet?

>>4599660
do not see things too off.
thing between nostrils is somewhat thin.
can try to add some dark to eye corners and lips

>>4599680
little by little loomis enters ur head

>>4599680
yea. it's like infinite void like fractal zoom of growing complexity. scary shit.

>>4599677
Nah the form is a bit messed up. Here's a frog i posted in another thread where i did it too. I'm a bit afraid of moving on to other things before being ok at drawing what i see.

>>4599680
For me I get overly confused and 'stuck on' things, then it clicks and I can do it perfectly, then I sleep. And forgot how I did anything. Ie there was a day I actually understood loomis' head intersection thing he does where he puts a spike through a head. And I could do it with no effort every time. And now I don't get it.

>>4599680
you have to learn to love the fundamentals and they will stick

>>4599687
See how the boxes are different sizes?
Do this while you draw, but in your head.
Or actually draw lines if it helps.

>>4599680
I follow all the instructions for whatever I'm trying to learn. Then I do the same thing without the instructions. If I forget anything I just repeat those two steps as needed, eventually it sticks without even trying.

You've only been studying for 4 days, just keep practicing even the simple things and you'll get it eventually

>>4599597
Thanks. Yeah I wasn't trying to say it's a tablet problem, more that I'm just not used to it.

>>4599715
More or less what I do, but I spent waaay too long with drawbox's stuff instead of just moving on

WHERES THE MEGA LINK YOU KEK
I CANT BELIEVE I TAKE A NAP AND IN THE EXACT TIME FRAME ACTUAL ANIME DRAWING RESOURCES GETS POSTED

>>4599691
if you're having trouble with finding the center of a sphere then the problem isn't anything related to memory and more a lack of fundamental basics. you just need to keep practicing until you get over this first hump. it's a pretty decent hump and there's quite a few like it.

stop blaming your memory and this "i sleep and forget everything" bs. all it does is redirect the blame from something you have control over to something you don't.

>>4599691
if u understand something make into words and note it. if u cant, u didnt understood yet

>decide to clean my pen
>usddenly the pressure is way better
>chicken scratch is gone now

uhh... nice

>>4599503
>>4599479
I just woke up, let me know if you still want the upload

arm anatomy studying, its hard to remember the names

>>4599809
I mean yea, this is the MOST fundemental basic, I assume this is why everyone says go to loomis first
Its just weird how in both of his books he just puts the spike in and bam that's it no explanation or maybe a line of explanation. I don't get it.

>>4599793
Same.

>>4599828
page 10 and 11 fun with pencil, page 13 image to see what he means

>>4599589
if you can't memorize muscle groups yes youre ngmi just quit now

>>4599837
Thanks.
Guess I fucked up by going with that draw a head thing in the /v/ mega first. Draw with a pencil is much more to the point and less rambly. I just saw 'loomis' and assumed its the one.

>>4599695
Thanks, it's going a little better now.
>>4599776
Where would you recommend stopping with drawabox? Gonna get started on it tomorrow and I'd rather not fall into the same trap.

>>4599880
When you reach the end of the tutorials.
In my case I got that far, then kind of lost interest in art entirely, so all I'd do was occasional doodles with the knowledge I got from drawabox. Its only recently I bothered to visit the drawthread/ic and saw there's so much info on moving on to the next step, or cared to look. I just had 0 interest in art for years for no real reason.

Can you critique my drawing please?

I drew this from imagination and it took about 3 hours. How can I make it look better? I feel I'm at a point where no matter how much more effort I put into it I won't be able to make it look any better. What should I study now?

Is it okay if I look into how to draw things like hair and clothes, or should I keep focusing on basics anatomy and perspective

>>4599672
This is just a skill one will get better gradually, just learn to plan ahead more, measure more, check your angles and curves, levels etc. it can be learned do not worry.

>>4599897
not beg

>>4599680
Maybe it's because I started drawing as a kid and took art classes every year, but to me things like lighting, perspective, and angle come naturally. You just look at the object/person in your mind and see how the light hits the different parts of their face. In fact drawing from a reference doesn't help because you still have to be able to "see" the rays of light in your mind. To me drawing the fundamentals just comes naturally. I can draw a killer plane/car/house/any object. Now anatomy
AHAHAHAHAHAAH AH SOMEONE HELP ME I CANT UNDERSTAND ANATOMY

>spent my whole life drawing from imagination
>done like 3 drawings from a ref

I've got to a passable level and among my friends I'm the "artsy guy". I've got a pretty good imagination but I am fucking terrible at drawing what I see because of how I've always gone about it. What's the best way to improve that, and my visual library?

>>4599957
post some of your shit so we can see if you are passable or just being given praise by friends

>>4599957
post work

>>4599825
yes pls, im the op.

>>4599897
the bike is fine, but obviously whatever's going on with his face isn't right
>>4599918
retard

>>4599825
Im about to go to work I'm gonna miss the upload again mother FUCK

>>4599825
PLEASE GOD UPLOAD IT

>>4599961
>>4599962
here ya go, these are probably the last four "big" pieces I've done.

>>4599825
Please upload

>>4599974
if it makes you feel any better anon is probably just jebaiting us

>>4600010
if he ends up not being a fag and uploads it
SOMEONE add all of it to the /ic/ mega archive PLEASE

>>4599641
just picked up a wacom tablet and my god my drawings are fucking awful.

Is this the standard when switching to digital for the first time or am I just fucking awful?

>>4599996
i like the top right one its cute

>>4600019
yes

>>4600025
yes what?

>>4600002
>>4599975
>>4600016
>>4600010
>>4599974
>>4599968
I'm uploading right now relax fags.
I'll leave it up for the day

>>4600019
its the standard and you are awful since you didnt bother to post any work

>>4600042
I'm too embarrassed

>>4600027
for everything you asked

>>4600045
Just do it you faggot, I'm shit too

>>4600045
double awful
its an anonymous board where you post shit art to be told how to not be shit, being embarassed makes no sense. its the entire fucking point.

>>4600020
thanks, guy :) Any input on improving the "draw what you see" bit?

>>4600045
The whole point of this place is that people can post their art anonymously. Dont be a pussy.

>>4600053
except for asukafuckingfag, did he get corona, where he?

>>4600045
pussy boy

>>4600062
didn't he post last thread or am I tripping

>>4600073
dont think so, his asuka's have different eyes.

>>4600034
here niggas, I forgot to zip the folder but oh well you can do it in mega
https://mega.nz/folder/k44BHK5D#23l3jgbBViwPL3S4B_LkTg

I'm resistant to new things, I use Paint dot net to draw, am I retarded? Posted this on DA and got ZERO views, as usual.

>>4600089
you tried psychatric help?

>>4600092
For the things I draw or because I won't use Photoshop?

>>4600085
thanks homie

>>4600085
You are definitely NOT a faggot

Thanks man

I'm so shit at poses

>>4600127
It's not the pose its the proportions.

>>4600134
but I screw up proportions because of trying to make characters pose

any advice?

>>4600136
it's too flat. Think about form. Draw some box

>>4600127
stomach like 3/4 a head too big

>>4600089
Don't use paint.net, its really bad with tablets, use sai or similar.

>>4600158
thanks
>>4600155
>Draw some box
?
like grinding 3d shapes?

>>4600180
>like grinding 3d shapes?
yes

anyone here try an online art atelier or online art class?
what was it like?

>>4599641
I need to give up on art.

>>4600192
Are these coom stains?

>>4600192
have you even tried loomis? if not, then you never even started art

>>4600204
>>4600192

forgot numbers

>>4600201
>>4600194
Just wanted a productive hobby during corona. I think I'm brain damaged.

>>4600207
Believe me. Art is a hobby that will eat you up and spit you out. If you are not in to fight you will go down.

>>4600207
>I think I'm brain damaged.
No, don't feel bad. Drawing can really be a bitch when you're a beginner. Not easy at all.

>>4600136
What I usually do is numbers, every part is supposed to be a certain length or breadth. Elbow should be above the waist, palms should be around the crotch, below genitals, I measure out the parts whenever they're in new poses, even the pentagram pic I posted I had to redraw the arms because they were initially too long. Also, try mastering abstractions first, like random shapes and objects to get a feel for 3d imagination.

>>4600162
Let me make you spit your drink. I draw with a mouse. Inb4 "why don't you use a tablet?"
Because I'm retarded, that's why.

I realize now that I will objectively 100% never gonna make it, so why do I keep torturing myself?

>>4600192
You're drawing from imagination I guess. Bad move, always draw from a reference at first until you get a hang of things.

>>4600226
because you got passion for drawing

>>4600207
>>4600192
youre not brain damaged, you just studied literally nothing. go draw some boxes do some loomis then try again

>>4599451
gonna try this and grind it, maybe it'll help me someway even though i'm several steps behind this

>>4600226
I felt like that too at one point, just stop looking at discord trannies on deviantart. I regressed in my drawing because of them. You need to draw what you want to see, never draw for money or for clout. (The money and clout will come but just don't make them your top priority) draw for the love of drawing, the love of making your thoughts a reality.

I can't tell if this is really bad or what

>>4600238
fixed canvas size oops

>>4600192
>I haven't tried anything and im all out of ideas

>>4600238
learn how to crop

>>4600034
>>4600085
why deleting the material in the first place? is it from some paywall faggot?

>>4600240
it's cute, now zoom out and draw the whole thing

I tried sketching a random face from imagination. Is this terrible?

>>4599957
>>4599996
Polite bump

>>4599650
I really like the way you line things, but the proportions/placement of everything is all off.

>>4600207
Wait so you've not been drawing since you were 5 y/o >:(
Fucking cringe, bro.

>>4599696
cute but's it's really muddy. Try to widen your color range.It'll really help.
ヽ(~_~(・_・ )ゝ

>>4600281
>ヽ(~_~(・_・ )ゝ
Stop this.

>>4599922
That's called talent

>>4600310
>let's ignore the first sentence

newbie here starting out with right side of the brain, currently on chapter 8 with the basic unit and perspective.
My main concern right now is that I'm slow as fuck. I'm ok with grinding, but I'm trying to avoid being one of those "I've been doing dailies for 2 years and I still suck" anons, and I feel like right now I'm working harder not smarter
Is 5 hours for a simple environment like this acceptable if I'm only on my 3rd week? If not, what else am I supposed to do, just grind igor, chairs and boxes? I thought these right side of the brain exercises were how I work on fundies

and smaller questions
should I start out with bigger shapes/outlines and fill in details later even when drawing from reference?
Is it ok that I just avoid drawing soft edges for now (e.g. the trash bag, basket, light fixture) or am I fucking myself?
What do I do when I fuck up my lines? Erase it and try again (prioritize correctness) or just keep going with the fucked up line (finish the drawing), because doing both leads to this 5 hour long chicken scratch shit

>>4600317
ref

>>4600317
first time environment? fine
did this without using perspective vanishing points? yep, it will definitely take time to measure everything

another portrait from imagination. not feeling to good about it but hopefully i can improve.

So basically right now I'm just doodling for kicks. Happened to draw this guy. I don't know if I made his arm too short or leg too long, but that isn't really what i wanna talk about. Does the way I made his lower leg sorta "twist" look good? Did I break his leg or is this a valid stylization choice?

>>4600286
No.
(๑¯ω¯๑)

Working on perspective and foreshortening
I think the legs are off, any advice?

>>4600358
kys

>>4600360
This gave me a giggle in a good way.

>>4600360
a pretty simple mistake, ankle join doesn't allow such extreme rotation.

Saw some anon do this last thread, have no clue what I'm doing since I'm still a loomis head shitter but figured I'd fuck around find some perspective

>>4600224
Why would that make me spit a drink
If you want to make your hobby hard, that's on you

>>4600386
If that dot is the vanishing point, you clearly need to double check your work

I made a banana copy, frog copy and this hand copy today and i feel like i've made some noob gains.
>>4600386
I'm /beg/ but try searching "linear perspective"

>>4599641
How does one go about self publishing? I'm checking webtoons most popular comics and they look like shit surely there must be a trick there

>>4600360
>>4600372
>>4600379
Still not happy with the legs but I did it

>>4600578
based symbol drawer

>>4600543
You just make an account and start uploading. Boom, self publishing. Webtoon, Tapas, TheDuck, plenty of comic sites.

If you want something printed, http://ka-blam.com/ does nice high quality work

pretty much never take figures past the bald and naked stage so im kind of flying by the seat of my pants with this one, especially with the hair. leftmost hand is sort of fucked and im not sure how to address it

>>4600619
time to learn some draperyyyy, who wants some draaaaapeeeryyyyy?

>>4600619
You staring on this figure for 3 days already. You could do research, and draw . But you prefer blogspot and procrastinate instead.

>>4600651
huh? i do studies and shit. this is just one thing im looking for feedback on

>>4600543
if you're /beg/ you shouldn't even be asking this question dude

we have a /beg/ discord server or what

>>4600656
nah. I was talking about myself.
but really finish this shit already. You "looking for feed back" every 10 lines you do. It unsustainable way of doing stuff. look pictures of hands, look pictures of hair, finish it, get some or no response and move on.

I'm the guy who posted >>4598265
I didn't like my first attempt, and yesterday was a bad day for me so I kind of rushed it a bit.Today I decided to go back and start over and see if I could at least make something that looked somewhat passable. There's already a few issues with it, like I noticed I made the face way too long. But otherwise I'm satisfied that it's at least an improvement. This attempt took around two hours, and I spent a little bit studying the old attempt for what I did wrong.

>>4600671
Good point

>>4599996
cute cat bro

Usually draw people, but I want to get into nature a bit. Sketched some possums. What do fellow /begs/ and critics think?

>>4599826
Are you doing something that requires you to know the names of every muscle? I feel like it's overkill, but I am just a beginner.

>>4600089
do what you're good at

>>4600691
Very cute.

>>4600722
bad advice

why is it so dead

>>4600750
corona on a beg killing spree, or the 1 guy impersonating the entire /beg/ is taking a break

>>4600755
Or corona become less a thing and all /begs returned to rl

>>4600661
Make one

>>4600765
i would but i'm v /beg/

how does my drawing look so far?
Also I left the sketch in this picture so I could ask if my background looked good,
since my last perspective drawing everyone said it was ass lol.
oops though I also forgot to draw the right arm but I don't think it will change anything rn

>>4599691
Holy shit, THIS

>Ram head into wall finding good ref
>Neurons start firing, seto kaiba fucking hacking music playing, all that shit, it's all coming together
>Have entirely enlightened understanding of how stuff works that I should realistically have no idea how to do, knowing exactly what's wrong and the vague, nebulous yet perfectly right way to fix it
>Hit a roadblock at some point usually
>Wake up, don't remember any of it, don't have that zeal anymore

On the plus side, over the course of the years of starting and stopping attempting to learn art/copy refs that some stuff is sticking. Just wish it didn't take weeks or months between having enough time and energy to make attempts.

>>4600243
>paywall faggot
yes.

this composition is above my skill level but you can only draw so many loomis heads and drawabox's until you wanna neck yourself

So, surely artists are lying when you ask them how they learned and they reply with "I just drew lole", right? Everyone here has implied that being impossible or entirely unfeasible.

But if it WERE feasible, if one of you fuckers who "just drew" and got good is in here, what exactly does "just drawing" entail? Copying references? Watching other people draw? I'm assuming you just skipped the bowls of fruit and the busts of helios for fundamentals and perspective and just gleaned it from looking at other people's art, right? How long did it take you? What did you learn from, if not a book or a class or guides on fundamentals?

Started trying to draw "seriously" about four days ago. This is my first turd I've shat out since my studies. More to come. I think next time I'll use water colors instead of markers. Please be sure to let me know how /beg/ I really am

>>4600823
I consider myself decent and I have never used reference photos or studied in my life

I think looking at so much art in my life and practically staring at anime art for over 5 years has helped me get as good as I do know, I just kind of visually store it in my head if that makes sense.
but I always have had some talent I used to draw a lot when i was 5-8 and did pretty decent stuff for my age.

>>4600829
Haha, apologies, I saw I had the wrong thread open, so I deleted my post. Interesting, though. Sometimes I guess it really is just an innate predisposition towards drawing, huh?

>>4600839
autism

>>4600839
bruh, what thread did you mean to post it in?
I think it is though yea
not a lot of artists on /ic/ started drawing as young as I did with some natural talent so they probably think that drawing loomis heads over and over for 8 years is the only way to get good.
plus consuming others media really did help me learn how to draw because I went wow I want to draw that and subconsciously applied to my own work.

>>4600829
pyw

>>4600853
i posted earlier
>>4600790
and pic related right now is a drawing of mine from 2018, to say I haven't improved would be dumb to say

>>4600859
Is this bait

oh

>>4600860
i dont think it is, but hope it is

>>4600085
work anon here, I FINALLY got off and am downloading now. I love you anon you're gonna make it and I hope your mom lives forever :)

>>4600192
you're symbol drawing WAY to much. Try learning how to construct the head.

>>4600860
i mean no but I am still a decent artist I think, my work from 2019 does not exist because I didn't draw that year.
so I did make improvement from 2018 despite not drawing at all during 2019 and just started again in april

also pyw if you think my stuff is god awful and show me what you have done, I would appreciate it.

>>4600873
Sure

>>4600873
get on drawing with the r. side of the brain, then loomis. thank me later if you do that or hate yourself for not doing it sooner when future comes

>>4600882
what am I going to hate you for? I do art for fun not for money or making it, I am trust fund so my life I can do fuck all with
I just want to draw touhous and have fun
>>4600881
do you have any actual finished art pieces with rendering or just sketches

>>4600890
I occasionally do finish pieces but I realize all of them aren’t that great because my rendering skills is crap, but im trying to do one finish piece every two weeks. Thank god that everyone said that rendering is the easier to master than let say drawing dynamic poses with foreshortening from imagination.

>>4600896
Here a value study of one of my figurines.

>>4600865
no problem broski, hope youre doing well hope we can all make it and get good together

>>4600898
>v-tuber
anon c'mon get better taste if youre gonna buy nendos jesus

>>4600898
If you would just clean up your edges they'd look a lot better to normies. Like making the base an ellipse instead of chicken scratch. A little edge control goes a long way, especially with normies

>>4600918
one of the most shitty normie vtubers too
Kizuna is some of the most retarded shit ever

>>4600898
>>4600927
I think that is a fine looking value study
fuck instagram normies who gives a shit what they want

>>4600927
I wasnt really wasn’t doing it for normies beside my own personal studies but thanks, yeah should just make the brush size bigger for the base and then render untop of it.

Loomis heads. Whatever that is.

define; render

>>4600941
not basic shading, anything more than shading like pic related is rendering
it isnt just flat colors with some shadow

>>4600945
cool

oh right it's saturday night, people have lives, I guess that's why it's kinda dead

>>4600954
>it's dead because people have lives
Deep

kinda a dumb question but should opacity or brush size be what my pen pressure is affecting? I just started watching ctrlpaint and adjusting the brush size whenever I need to paint smaller/bigger seems annoying

>>4600965
Size

>>4600965
depends

>>4600954
im 36 years old
drawing loomis heads and drawabox
no one will look me in the eye, led alone fuck me
I am not overweight
don't feel too bad about it
even the worst of us can find peace

>>4600989
the only reason that is is because of attitudes like yours.
but, I too need to grind loomis. were you that post above?

Charcoal on newsprint. I'm mostly happy with the composition so I'll try redrawing on good paper tomorrow. Anything that needs to change first?

I wanna draw a little chibi blob like this, having a problem with the head though, it wouldn't use typical construction so how do I go about it

>>4601043
yeah yeah
there's only so much attitude you can finesse until you realize nothing works
im too drunk to do art rn and i dunno what post you speaking about

>>4601074
This do not make any sense.

>>4601096
Bitch, don't kill my vibe.

>>4601096
I just made an assumption really, figured it'd be a bit difficult making like a regular loomis head if i'm drawing some little fuck like that
i guess it's stupid thats alright

A face study I did for a few hours. Why does my shading look messy? Also anyone have tips for hair? I'll take anything.

>>4601111
You're smudging it with your hand. Tape tracing paper down where you're resting your hand when you render.

Also, James gurney ribbon method for hair.

>>4601088
just remember anon women arent attracted to negativity or depression, cant expect others to be into you if youre not "into" yourself

>planned on drawing tonight
>got a headache
Am I NGMI if I take a night off

>>4601163
Women fuck and maintain long term relationships with negative and depressed guys all the time.

More gestures just for fun.

>>4601172
>having fun
Ngmi you must hate drawing to make it and get good.

>>4599861
Soul

>>4601173
Fuck you and fuck that chink that said not to draw people because they're too hard for beginners. 99% of all advice is bullshit soundgoods. Nobody ever told me that gesturing the arm from the chest is way nicer than trying to draw it coming from the shoulder, I learn that myself just playing around. Nobody will ever teach you how to get good.

>>4601179
>the only way to learn how to draw is to actually draw
You figured it out. You can now leave /beg/

GUESS WHO FORGOT THAT BOOBS REACT TO GRAVITY!?

>>4601179
>▶
can you explain this arm chest gesturing thing?? sounds good

>>4601117
Thanks, I'll try and work on that on the next one.

>>4601186
bruh, please read some Loomis before drawing coomer shit i beg you

>>4601203
loomis before cooming

>>4601203

Oh I know the head is off. I suck at "looking up" looms head.

Is there a video or book resource on how to draw hands?

Is there a video resource on how to draw hands?

>>4601230
Buy a small mirror

>forgot to make the line a chin and cheekbone.

Loomis saves the day as usual.

>>4601198
I used to "grow" the arm from the shoulder when gesturing, but really there are more muscles involved like the pectorals so the arm really grows more from the centre of the chest if you think about it.

>>4601233
you need hogarth

>>4601235
thanks, that's some real advice for /beg/s dude

>>4601230
Look at your hands

tried to draw the random chibi shit, came out awful as expected. back to the drawing board

>>4600192
You can't say give up when you didn't even start.

>>4601270
Make the eyes bigger

>>4601278
not bigger. lower

>>4601280
Both

How do japanese artists manage to make appealing art without studying anatomy, muscles, etc? Pull up pixiv and just go through some r-18 tags. You will see tons of minor mistakes when it comes anatomy, muscles, perspective etc.

How the fuck do these nips manage to become anime porn producing machines without religiously studying anatomy?

>>4601283
this is not question

>>4601283
Asian genes

More gestures, I'm on a roll today. Also just like with the arms I started thinking the legs really start around the gluteus medius muscles, even though they're technically higher than the joint. So gesture doesn't equal skeleton, it's more like trying to encompass as much "mass" in a single line as possible.

>>4601283
By not going to a muslim image board and 24/7 asking questions how to git gud at drawing

>>4601320
Okay but what is their learning process like? If theyre not studying anatomy and muscles what are they doing

Learning to draw non-wobby lines.

ugly blob heads musical coming to a theatre near you

>>4600881
multipass

A bunch of random sketches I did trying to use basic shape composition as a base.

>>4601403
>>4601359
>>4601376
>>4601315
>>4601315
not beg

>>4601405
based uber /beg/

post your loomis game

Can I move on to drawing bodies?

>>4601465
no

>>4601465
Become a portrait artist

It's been a while

>>4601477
You are authorized to leave /beg/. I congratulate you on your success. From now on, your efforts may be posted in the /draw/ and /int/ threads.

Gestures in the park.
It was hard because everyone was moving, so I basically had to work with one mental snapshot.

>>4601484
Try https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing and put the timer on 10 or 15 sec.

>>4601477
How long did it take you to draw this good?

>>4601482
no offence anon, but I don't really believe you >>4601405

>>4601497
I don't really know desu...

wdyt ?

>>4601514
yssmltgg

>>4601518
haha lol epic my friend

>>4600085
Based and gmi pilled.

i'm dooing loomis but my spheres are a bit fucky which becomes apparent when i start placing shapes. does anyone know of any good tutorials for drawing spheres?

i tried google but all i get is clickbait sites and youtube tutorials where they explain nothing and just draw

>>4601549
>youtube tutorials where they explain nothing and just draw
thats what you have to do

>>4601549
Practise drawing from the shoulder. And just fill 5 sheets with circles everytime before you start drawing.

first time drawing human face.
I fucked up bad.
I'm drawing the "a drawing of the face" instead of "drawing the face itself".
This is discouraging...

what you guys think?
Where should i go from here?
start from drawing lines and boxes?
Or find more faces and keep drawing?

>>4601560
Looks like a tranny

>>4601560
plan more anon, plan ahead more before you go into details.

>>4601561
exactly.
The first thing that came into my mind is
>He bought?
>Dump eet

>>4601477
What are you even doing here?

>>4601283
how do u fucking knows they dont study those things? show me some proof of you asking them if they dont

>>4601586
I mean have you seen the stuff that poster is talking about? Most anime style artwork is just really polished pieces of shit.

>>4601586
/ic/ is a little out of touch in this area. The majority of artists do not take anatomy, perspective, or other fundie study terribly seriously. And honestly, it's the same in most professions. Lots of coders don't write the best, most efficient code. A lot of people slap together whatever works. And as long as you roughly know what you're doing and are experienced, you can usually get by with that attitude.

To think that every digital artist making moderately popular art spent 1000 hours grinding loomis heads and gesture/values study is kind of out of touch. I

>>4599650
flip the photo upside down, turn it grayscale, and try to draw it like that

Is turning my ref pic black and white cheating? I can see the values better that way...

>>4601560
Two things!!!

The first is that you are definitely doing what you described. You're drawing an idea of what you are seeing. You need to focus on some of the fundamentals of training your hand to draw what your eye is seeing. It's a much more fundamental skill, and honestly one that requires grinding it out to train yourself for it. Keep going, and it'll help.

And Two!

Your drawing is also instantly recognizable as Anton. While it's not the most technically proficient, you got his smug ass face and even the highlights in the hair. If it were a comic panel, it'd be more than sufficient to get across what you want. You really should keep going, you're a lot further in the right direction than you think!

>>4601283
They absolutely do. Breaking rules successfully means knowing them in the first place.

What tools work for coloring inked drawings in a traditional medium? I've been using alcohol markers so far, but I don't like how "strong" they typically look when I use them. I'm planning moving onto water colors so I can get those lighter faded tones, but I'm wondering if I have other options I'm not aware of

>>4601674
Hey, curious what resources you used to learn inking? I'm super new to it and pretty intimidated

>>4601676
I literally just draw out the majority of the drawing with a mechanical pencil and go back over it with ink when I feel it looks good enough. I never actually looked up any resources on how to "learn" in because it seemed pretty straight forward, but I'm not a pro or anything. Buy yourself some copic multiliners for like $12

>>4601725
based

Is he using colored pencils in this drawing or is it something else?

How do you get better at estimating distance of things / proportions of things. I am struggling (I think) with drawing by reference because I have a hard time keeping things accurate/proportionate. I make a decent sized mistake in one area and then when I move on it ends up cascading out and the whole thing ends up being wonky.

fanart of my wife

>>4601755
drawing with right side of brains something like that book name

>>4601759
Great to see you are still about Asuka sempai!

>>4601759
asukafag, is that u? where is her belly and waist, can't preg her that way

>>4601759
is that a lollipop?
since it is a focal point I wouldnt make the stick match up exactly with the jaw like that, makes it look less interesting
foreshortening on right leg looks abit weird, but maybe cause no environment to put it into context
colors abit oversaturated
otherwise I like it alot

>>4601772
unironically thought it was dribbling cum
lol

>>4601560
You need Vilppu, and Jesus.

>>4601759
Fuck off Proko, we know it's you.

>>4601725
>Buy yourself some copic multiliners for like $12
i know this isn't a gear thread, but what's the point of buying these, when the refill is $3 a pop, when i can buy disposable uni-pin fineliners for $1.75 a piece ? do the ink cartridges last a lot longer or is there a trick to refill them yourself ?

>>4601560
Lord Bogdanoff

>>4601560
http://www.dorian-iten.com/accuracy/
Dodson's Keys to drawing if you have more time

I was watching late 80's early 90s anime and I think I really liked how the faces where drawn. So I drew a bunch of the faces while high.

>>4601560
Fucking saved. 100% soul.

Trying boobs

following a shitty tutorial
how to make better lines? what to improve?

>>4602055
oh, I realize that the arms are specially crap

>>4602045
I really wonder if half of the post on /beg/ are people larping and posting another artist’s work.

>>4602059
did you find the source? other than the file name?

>>4601405
this not beg meme is one of the best

Sometimes i shit on a canvas

i drew my sister. she told me off for hiding the hands, what

>>4602055
I know it's a simple standing pose but it looks stiff. Keep practicing gesture.
Legs look too symmetrical. Draw more of them from many angles, pay attention to their asymmetry.
Hips look kinda narrow, torso looks flat. Read chapters 1-6 from Huston's book if you haven't, or watch his lectures.
I'm not a fan of soft brush and would suggest you start with cel shading once you get a better feel for the 3d forms you're drawing.
I don't know much about lines but try decomposing contours into as big as possible curves and draw each of those in a single stroke. Maybe disable the size jitter and zoom in when doing your lines so you have room to move your arm idk
Study artists you like and see how they simplify the body when stylizing.

>>4602149
you need more loomis

Oh fuck is a wacom bamboo considered a "small tablet"?

>>4602149
Thank you

1 min 30 each, still certain I'm using more contours than movements, how do I break that part of my brain?

>>4600238
nah it looks pretty good imo, it's hard to tell if you are actually decent tho because theres just not enough there to tell.

1 minute 30 seconds. Still can tell it's more contour than movement, how do I break the part of my brain that's stopping me making these lines more dynamic and more resembling a C S I curve?

>>4600873
you've improved, I don't know whats up with them not recognizing it. Good job! Though I wouldn't say it is to a decent level, still beginner for sure. Keep it up!

>>4600238
>>4600240
I like the face but get the feel that her neck is too wide or the torso perspective is kinda weird

>>4601542
thanks broski

>>4600386
Red is wrong.
Blue is right.
That's the whole... point. Get it?

>>4602187
try 30 secs and only draw it with one line

>>4601111
You need more blacks. The shading is fine, you're lacking contrast

>>4601759
I've seen your stuff many times but never see your blog, do you have one?

I'm so bad at getting proportions right. Is there any exercise or something like that to improve that shit?

>>4602203
yes

>>4601477
>he actually drew hands
G
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I spent longer than I probably should've on this one, can I have a critique for future pieces?

>>4601465
don't move on, just do both.
The head is wonky because the chin juts out way more than it should. Eyes are too big and lips could be alot better.

How To Draw Scott Robertson
How To Render Scott Robertson
Framed Ink Marcos Mateu
Figure Drawing Design and invention Michael Hampton
Is this good book list for total beginner?

>>4602196
sir yes sir

I'm starting drawabox and lesson 1/3 'The path of least resistence' is bothering the hell out of.
I was just getting less shit at copying stuff but when i try to use only my shoulder my pencil goes fucking everywhere. Could i just stop leaning my arm against the table so that it's free, and then just work on using my shoulder subconsciously, or is the right way to force myself to correct it manually?

How is the figure on this werewolf? I tried drawing a pose with no ref

Andrew Loomis: Fun with a touch screen. This is my first introduction to construction and I am actually enjoying it. Having basic knowledge of 3d modeling, it makes a lot of sense.

I find that when I tried to reconstruct loomis' books faithfully I failed and my heads looked ugly. When I didn't worry about a faithful reproduction and just focused on feeling the basic shapes and experimenting, my heads turned out better. I'm also aware I'm using too much mickey mouse eyes.

>>4602207
I’m /beg but I feel like the torso should be just slightly shorter and you could work on gesture as well, I do like the design though (Mitsuru is best girl tho)

How stop chicken scratch

>>4602246
I also felt that something was off but I spent so long looking at it that I got used to it. The pose is also quite stiff so I'll start studying gesture as well. Thank you for helping a fellow /beg!

>>4601477
isashiburi da ne

>>4602245
holy shit you can draw pepe, I'm going to start reading that book right away

>>4602205
what is it

>>4602245
Oh youre getting the whole Cheek thing a hell of a lot better than I am

Does anyone here draw with an iPad and pencil? If so, do you have a screen protector on yours? I have a generic one on mine and trying to draw on it is like a fucking slip and slide. I know you can buy 'paper-like' screen protectors, but apparently they absolutely shred the nib of your pencil and I don't want that. Any solutions?

>>4602198
One line just being the line of action?

new

>>4602294
>>4602294
>>4602294

>>4602285
The floating head army will take over the world. The only reason I have less cheeks+chin resembling male genitals on my canvas is because consciously avoided drawing them. But it is definitely weird. I don't fully get cheeks yet. My pipe guy looking screen left has the best cheek being stressed by his grin. Most of the rest don't read that well.

>>4602211
I would start with Keys to drawing if absolute beg, then Huston's book and Hampton on the side. Haven't read Framed Ink but if you already have a clear idea of what you want to draw and are in a hurry to get your ideas out of your head my guess is that you could start there, but it probably would be better to read it after Huston's. Robertson how to drawis an overkill for beginners imo, I would just learn basic perspective and do dynamic sketching. haven't checked out his how to render.

>>4599807
nice

Could anyone recommend me some sites with models dressed in normal poses? Kinda got bored of those extreme unnatural poses of all the model drawing sites I know of.

Also pls rate

>>4599641
Can anyone recommend the best site to have your digital art put to canvas or framed for a newbie. Want to auction one of my prints off for our charity but I don’t want to experiment with companies to see which produces the best quality print. TIA.

>>4601283
just because they don't have a perfect anatomy it does not mean that they didn't study it.

>>4601564
What do you mean?
More sketches before i start drawing the lines?

>>4601660
So, do you mean i should start with the basic?
Or should i start drawing faces more and eventually i will be better at translating pictures into my drawings with more accurate lines?

>>4601848
Thanks for the suggestion.
Will look for his online video since i'm not gonna pay $900 for the online courses...

>>4602008
Yes, the strongest twins of the universe

>>4602017
Thanks for the suggestions.
I will look at it.
And i can even checkout with $0? Sweet!

>>4602040
well, i'm counting on you to spread this out then.
terrorize your enemy with this worst nightmare.
KEK

>>4601850
kek this is my head canon now.

>>4602207
keep the form in mind, for instance, you made her boobs flat with the way you drew the tie and the shadow. try imagining the contour lines

>>4602187
Contour is using your eyes, feel it, don't see it. Gesture is about feeling.

I don't even know how to study light desu

>>4601759
I thought shes drooling for a second