/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

-me

>it's this thread again

Go draw instead, OP.

>Japanese people can draw ani-

>>4599584
>This fucking thread again
>for the one thousandth time
>Ah shit hea we go again.

>>4599630
/thread was going to post the same thing

>>4599630
not anime

>>4599619
The OVA looks and Is animated like utter shit, but I am surprised by the fact that the dude who inserted himself into his cartoon as the ugly midget Is actually kino at art

>>4599584
Wasn’t Swat Kats animated in Japan or Korea?
Yes it’s a western property but I’m more than sure the animation was outsourced to some overseas sweatshop.

>>4599648
by that definition anime = cartoon then, ask any jap

>>4599630
Explain why styles like those don't work in motion then, have you ever wondered why wannabe-anime like Avatar, Ben 10 and Teen Titans that don't look japanese at all?

>>4599652
Nora is essentially the artist's home brewed waifu so when they made him director of the anime adaptations (Yes, they let him try it twice) he spent all of the money on a custom motorcycle and dates with a graveture model he paid to cosplay as his waifu.

>>4599716
Literally none of these tried to be or look like anime.

>>4599584
reason why westerners wont go for anime(tion)

https://www.buzzfeed.com/danmeth/this-american-is-one-of-the-only-non-japanese-working-in-ani

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2016-05-25/.102455

the pay is shit, the work is miserable, ur just a cog, no european/american in their right mind would subject to that industry

>>4599761
We weren't talking about the industry here homie, just the style of art and how most westerners are incapable of emulating It without looking like and ugly inbred abomination. Name one single japanese beg who draws like this

>>4599588
/thread

>>4599655
Most 80s and early 90s cartoons were outsirced to Japan or Korea. Inspector Gadget, He-man, Silverhawks, etc.

>>4599768
pixiv, search, sort: new

>>4599768
pixiv -> 海外アニメ

>>4599768
I still wanna fuck Sandra so bad.

>>4599804
So what the fuck is OP even talking about then?

What does westerners mean at this point. The fucking industry is located in California and guess what, cali is a hotbed of Asians. And said Asians are the majority of art grads there. And so that means the majority of art seen online is from Asians.

If you just want to say whuite people can’t draw anime then say that. But how can you make that assessment from tv animation is animation is a team effort of which more than likely the staff is mostly Asian anyway?

>>4599723
Wat, now I want to learn more

>>4599658
>by that definition
Which one? Because the english word "anime" is not etymologically the same as the japanese word "anime". If you think Japan doesn't distinguish between what we call "anime" and western cartoons, you're retarded. In Japan the word may mean "animation" for short but in the west it means "japanese cartoon".

>>4599889
Then no one other than japanese people can draw anime, not even asian besides japanese
/thread

>>4599894
>Then no one other than japanese people can draw anime, not even asian besides japanese
Well, yeah. No shit, did you think it was anything else? When koreans try to imitate anime it looks like hot garbage and you can always tell right away that they made it.

>>4599900
aren't some japanese anime outsourced to korea? what are those cartoons called when released half anime half cartoon? anitoon?

>>4599907
>aren't some japanese anime outsourced to korea?
unfortunately
> what are those cartoons called when released half anime half cartoon? anitoon?
I guess they still technically count as anime because everything from the company, employees, banks, etc are japanese, and most importantly all design and key animation is done by japanese head animators. The only stuff even really done by koreans are in-betweens which, to be honest, look like hot shit in anime outsourced to them. To say that an entire animation project is outsourced to korea is simply not true. I still hate it, believe me. I've been trying to decide if it even counts.

>>4599894
what if you're mixed with japanese and some western, do you draw cartoon or anime? and if genetics aren't the reason to classify it, then if someone is japanese then get a usa nationality, what he creates is considered what?

>>4599916
If you were not raised in japan you do not draw anime.

if you're a german and build a a6m 1:1, then did you just invent the german a6m?

>>4599912
Time to ctrl+c ctrl+v anime and sell as my property as cartoons.

>>4599938
You've built a replica. This is a pretty basic concept regarding new-build historical machines from manufacturers who no longer produce it. So I guess you could call western "anime" "replica anime".

>>4599937
for how long do i need to be raised in japan to draw anime? 5 years, 10, 20 40? i got 16 years, let me know if its enough

>>4599945
Don't get me wrong, letting anime influence your style and then keeping a western cartoon look is the best way to go as a western artist. You have other talents that would go to waste trying to master an artstyle that the japanese learn from birth.

>>4599951
How old were you when you first lived there?

>>4599955
2yo

>>4599952
What If I hate how western cartoons look?

>>4599958
You should be able to draw anime if you drew as a child and grew up surrounded by japanese. Did you grow up on the military base?

>>4599958
not anime

>>4599963
no, dekasegi family
>>4599964
what if i were to work on an animation studio? would my work be anime or cartoon?

>>4599972
Well, you can make what would definitely be considered anime. Now my question is; CAN you draw anime?

>>4599977
no, can i? what is anime?

>>4599972
cartoon. i'm sorry anon, but you just can't pass the anime wall

>>4599979
but, if i were to work on an animation, wouldnt the animation be sold as an anime?

>>4599985
Yeah I think the other guy replying to you is a baiting, seething westerner. You can make anime, but I want to know if you can draw it. Can you? Are you able to imitate the art style?

What Is the point of learning to draw in an anime style instead of an american cartoon one when you're american?

>>4599993
Because i like it. Although I'd rather go for "any %" rather than "pure anime". Think Alex Ahad or something.

>>4599991
i can draw shinchan and doraemon no problem. anpanman too.

>>4599985
yes. and it would be a massive scam, i hate when they do that

>>4600001
ok, ill try to make into the industry, wish me luck. it will take a while

>>4599993
Literally any cartoon art style that isn't movies in general, Castlevania or Avatar/Korra Is simple as shit and not illustrative quality, so why we should bother?

Sooo, can japanese draw cartoons or are they forever stuck and doomed to eternally draw anime?

>>4600022
>Sooo, can japanese draw cartoons
Yes, see doraemon and ghibli if you wanna see them flex on western cartoons. They can draw cartoons whenever they want. They just don't have to. Face it, if you could draw anime you wouldn't want to draw steven universe.

>>4600022
Yes, they are doomed.

>>4600032
Wouldn't they need to be non japanese to draw it though? One thing is cartoon style another is cartoon, just using the same logic given for anime in this quite convoluted thread.

>>4599723
Kek is that the reason why the animation is so shit?

>>4600056
Pretty much yes

>>4600088
Can you link to any source, if true that's pretty funny

>>4599960
I can't fucking believe this nigga hasn't learned anything, you have to be some kind of special retard indeed

>>4599584
>drawn by a wester......

>>4599584
>people that make anime has small p...

Holy
Shit
Who
Cares.

>>4600247
chill bro we know he just has an autism already

>>4600040
>Wouldn't they need to be non japanese to draw it though?
no, anyone can draw cartoons
only japanese can draw japanese cartoons
you seem like you're trying to make a false premise about the whole thing

>>4599584
You know that late 80s to 90s cartoons were often outsourced to japan, right? That's why they looked so good. The nips literally tossed out the ugly American character sheets and used their own. BTAS was outsourced to japan as well for the better episodes

>>4600482
>only japanese can draw japanese cartoons
but, now how you explain the 2 westerners working on the anime industry in japan, what are they drawing?

>>4600482
*Blocks your path*

>>4599723
What a chad. A mad lad chad.

Dear fucking good, I am neither a furfag or a /co/ manchild but I want to coom into Callie so bad.

>>4599655
From the JP Swat Kats wiki article:
>それはムークアニメーションとイマジンにより、海外アニメーション化された。
>It was animated overseas by Mook Animation and Imagine.

Wonder who did the final designs.