/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

humblebrag thread huh.

>>4591491
Sakimichan

>>4591491
spudonkey

Well, when I was a kid I thought Yugioh cards looked impressive, realistic, very masterfully done. (Talking about Gen1 stuff)

Nowadays I see most of them were pretty wonky, and even the epic legendary Blue Eyes White Dragon is just weird.
The artist still get props for being creative and good at creating memorable designs.

>>4591491
Ruan Jia

>>4591503
They aren't renaissance art but they were never meant to be. They look kino to this day. Pic related is still my fave monster design.

Joke's on you, I've always liked nbekkaliev's stuff from a technical point of view, his weird women never tickled my fancy (despite having comfy shapes).

>>4591517
I was really interested in his style going another way then he started drawing all his "weird women" and seemed to stay in a comfort zone. It inspired me a lot with the ambient occlusion and shapes coming from a 3D modeling background which made rendering make more sense in painting. I really liked these two old images of his, saved them when I started in 2017, but never got anything else like it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-_wIZwXYAIJpJL?format=jpg&name=orig

When I was a teen and active on deviantart, I imitated Themrock a lot. he was pretty famous in the cartoonist community, and got a daily feature from time to time, which was a huge deal on the site.
I was super pomped when he followed me on twitter some months ago, but he deteriorated mentally and has been stale for more than a decade. He churns mediocre artwork and chases trends

>>4591491
None, because I have great fucking taste. Like the good ones from the start.

>>4591503
You sure it's not nostalgia? Most of the very first original artwork are pretty mediocre or bad, although has a good charm of its own.

They didn't stagnate it's more like I refined my taste and realized they're headed in a different direction to me

>>4591503
Still looks soulful to me to be honest.

Deculture. Used to be the chad artist/writer/bodybuilder combo, now he doesn't write, regressed somewhat artistically, and only draws cheesecake.

>>4591546
Nah, he had a lot of variety on themes (from robots to dragons to monsters to objects to people to Egypt to jungle) and used varied colors that helped the design. I remember Yugioh designs way better than I remember, say, Beyblade or Power Rangers monsters/megazords, even though there were fewer to share screentime than Yugioh's cast in the hundreds. And I was also very into those other series.

Look at this polymerization card, I will never forget these colors. I still don't know what Monster Reborn is (a sword? a coffin?) but I can see it if I close my eyes, as a little blue screaming cyclops sea monster.

>>4591575
You seem incredibly autistic and nostalgiac. There's nothing special, it's really juvenile.

>>4591586
Ok, then, just ignore all the elements I just described.
And don't ask my opinion next time if you've already formed your opinion, you frigid nigger.

>>4591575
Go look at the actual artwork for Monster Reborn (not the American one) and it's very boring in comparison.
You can't just cherrypick the best and most iconic cards like BEWD but ignore the fact that most early art looked like archaic shit that abused the dodge/burn tool. Cards nowadays have the quality on the left.

And there is a variety of themes...due to the nature of the meta (going by subtypes nowadays to push card $sales) they have to be themed...

>>4591698
>new gen bad
Yes, but who cares? I said it was about Gen1.
>don't cherrypick Blue Eyes White Dragon!!
I specifically said I picked it because it's both iconic AND badly drawn.
>dodge/burn tool
Missing the point again, as designs can be good/efficient even if the art sucks. (And vice-versa).
And remember what the thread is about? Art that you USED to think was good and now you don't. So no point on playing Sherlock Holmes on something I am declaring to find bad.

no one gives a shit about yugioh you stupid, stupid, dumb fucking faggots

>>4591491
Oh man. Back when I was in High School, and found out about DA, one of the first people that I found and inspired me was Delya and her projects she was working on. They sounded real cool. But looking at her stuff now, she's essentially become an "OC Hoarder." She makes all these dumb OCs and doesn't do shit with them.

>>4591698
Most of the new cards aren't even done by takahashi himself, but mostly by from Konami commissioned artists.
They're good quality but it truly lacks that something special.

>>4591792
The original art is one of the reasons why it got popular in the first place IMO

>>4591788
is this artist a big rayman fan by any chance

>>4591792
The new art has all these long named dragon demon or something or others with over designed bodies and tiny heads, and text to match it

>>4591846
I believe she was. It's pretty obvious with the floating limbs.

>>4591491
akashiro/starbottle on twitter. I used to orbit her hard 8 years ago. Her art is really just okay at best, I just liked it a lot more when I was a teenager. She hasn't improved at all in the years I forgot about about her and it's really sad. She's 28 now I think, still lives with her mother, still has meltdowns on twitter and plays fucking gachashit all day. I think I'm more disappointed by her mental regression and her being a womanchild rather than her stale art. I'm way ahead of her now in terms of skill.

I did buy something off her shop a while back just to support her a bit, and it came with a handwritten thank you card. It added a very nice personal touch, I jacked off to it a bunch of times.

>>4592288
i love you

>>4592288
you draw better than this? you must be very good.

>>4591618
What does pot of greed do?

Used to be a big fan of Loish, but her stuff has gotten pretty stale. She still occasionally produces an interesting piece, but I feel she hasn't progressed in years.

>>4592345
how would you progress from that?

>>4592357
Not him but its just a front facing character bust doing nothing.

Theirs a million and one ways you can make more interesting pieces.

Most of Kim Jung Gi's works sort of meld together. There's a few that are pretty memorable to me, but the guy draws so much of the same-old stuff that it you can't tell one clustered piece from another. Still a big fan of the occasional gem he makes, though.

>>4592288
based
it's almost like you had a schizo romance

>>4592446
There’s a piece I like by him and in a video of him he himself notes he is especially happy with it so I think he knows that he tends to just turn out intricate but bland things, and the better things are noteworthy to us all

>>4592345
Lol. That's like asking Jim Lee to progress. People like that are established with their styles. It's their brand.

>>4592288
You’re telling me that someone on /ic/ is better than that? Post your work.

>>4592375
>how would you progress from this

>there's ways

So in other words you don't know

Lot of people talking a big game but not backing it up.

>>4592552
I’m 99% sure that this whole thread is just people larping as successful artists.

>>4592614
I just put in my answer as a joke, honestly.

Andrew Dickman.

>>4592345
I hate Loish and all her clones, everything she makes is really boring

>>4592849
So are you more into vehicles or nature or architecture or something?

>>4592860
I am more into interesting shapes and expressions but yeah, i also like those things. I think i hate her because she represents what i dislike about social media artists, it's just bland and meant to be consumed by people who don't understand or like art and just want something pretty in their feeds or phone background.

>>4592849
I'm not fond of her either but mostly because she constantly draws an idealized version of herself.

>>4591531
sauce?

>>4591491
i'm so glad someone else feels this way about Nurzhan's stuff. Take any single girl he's drawn and it's usually great but at this point why even follow him he's drawn the exact same shit for years. And yea, i think he's gotten a little worse too, probably because he's not challenging himself at all.
Maybe he posts a bunch of different stuff somewhere that i haven't seen but holy shit is he a one trick pony if he doesn't.

>>4591843
I think so too. It was a good mix of fantasy, horror and cool that drew many players in the game.
>>4591937
yes, but it also is very anime. You rarely get any more original design that are complex but do not confuse like in the first gens of booster packs.
yugioh designs and by extension the game, peaked long ago
now it's just pic related

>>4592911
So you just don't like drawings of people?

I used to try doing unique things, but had a bit of a shitty episode, said fuck it and now I just draw fanart.

Peleng/ Sergey Kolesov really seems to have lost his spark. He's still capable of great things as he's shown with his concept art, but his stuff was some of the most interesting and creative, not to mention technically competent digital art out there for a time.
maybe his best work is hidden behind some NDA wherever hes working, but i miss stuff like pic related, vs what he posts on his instagram these days
https://www.instagram.com/peleng_square/?hl=en

>ITT entire thread missing the part of "but you got better (than them)" in OP

>>4593125
yeah but OP is a fag who asked a retarded question, what did you expect?

>>4593133
Is it retarded because no one in /ic/ actually draws?

>>4593141
yes

>>4592288
I think thats a gacha she just plays

Shirow Masamune. His older watercolor works got more soul than his current cgi shitfest.
Then again there are rumors that the original shirow died during the kobe quake and the current shirow is just an impersonator(that loves horsedicks) hired by the publisher.

>>4593094
Only if they are animu

>>4593115
Holy shit I can barely believe that's the same guy who drew what you posted, this looks like someone who had a stroke and lost half his mind.

>>4593115
I actually prefer his work from 2019. Pic you posted just looks like photobash crap while now he's actually painting and exploring shapes/design.

>>4593125
He didn't say 'than them'. You got better, your taste got better, doesn't mean your skill is anywhere close to your former idol.

>>4591491
>>4593125

Chamba for starters

>>4593889
wew, but that's how i feel about all the udon shit. i used to really like some of the sf stuff before i drew. now the best i can say is that some of it is just really inconsistent. for every 1 painting i like there's about 10 or more that completely miss. dogan's probably the best but he's in pinup hell and probably doesn't consider it anything more than a job. that's the impression i got from i think his aigis vid where he's talking about before you know it you're drawing anime tiddies but you're 40, married with a kid, and telling people you're an artist isn't as cool as when you were in your 20s. robaato is spiky and constantly having twitter meltdowns but I guess has sorta made improvements while still doing his style.

>>4591491
Plague of Gripes

>>4593233
I start wondering with people like him what it's like to generationally adapt to new art. I can totally see old artists getting really into 3D stuff which looks trite to everyone else. I can't quite understand taste differences for old artists that haven't kept up with the times. A lot of artists that were doing 90s concept art in traditional made the leap to digital no problem but it left some people behind. Part of that probably being the industry and how much was expected of people where they get to the point of pumping out art because they have to.

>>4592925
She's the textbook example of the female CG artist.

>>4591491
I am stagnation, what do?

>>4592345

This might be due to burnout. She has stated that she struggles with the need to constantly keep producing pieces, to make sure that she continues to be picked up by the algorithms.

>>4593920
>his aigis vid where he's talking about before you know it you're drawing anime tiddies but you're 40, married with a kid, and telling people you're an artist isn't as cool as when you were in your 20s
Can you link video? It sounds interesting

>>4591491
>There are narcissistic retards that believe in any way they have caught up to nbekkaliev, Ruan Jia and Kim Jung Gi

To the surprise of no one in particular not a single work posted too.

>>4595479
the average /ic/ reading comprehension, nothing in the op said anything about being better than them

>>4591788
Woah I was about to post delya as well. I was pretty obsessed with her stuff back then. I think it went downhill when she started mostly drawing plain humans

>>4595417
>married with a kid
that's fucked up

>>4595581
>Who are some artists you used to look up to, but you got better
whats that about reading comprehension?

>>4595581
The OP is not clear enough and people are clearly seeing it as being better than other artists.
Someone you used to look up to but you got better.
There are two ways to interpret that, got better THAN or as you got better you no longer look up to because you can see their shortcomings, the latter requires a lot of inferring.
Too vague to tell for certain but the fact that people are interpreting it as the first shows what people are comprehending, the fact that the artist and the person are being directly compared gives credence to the first interpretation.

I don't know what the fuck happened but Osiimi didn't just stagnate, but regressed to the point where eyeballs don't even fit the heads. Looking back her old art and it's still way more appealing.

>>4596176
What does the old art look like because that's horrifying

>>4593889
The gesture, color and shape of the monster is way better in the new one, I like the motion blur of the tentacles and splashing of the water, the piece has a lot more energy because of that. It's completely ruined by that awkward, oversimplified sausage woman though, which really sucks.

>>4596176
The coom artist pill, not even once.

Im going to ignore the 'but you got better" vagueness.

Ataruman for sure. One of my OG favorite artists from when I started drawing a few years ago. I love his poses and how well he understands appeal/ exaggeration/ etc. He even draws boys pretty well. I love his coloring, everything, etc, but I swear to god his faces are starting to melt. His faces were never super solid; they always felt sort of flat and like the features were pasted on and out of proportion, but I feel like they took a dive. It's so weird to me because his anatomy is perfect otherwise. It makes me wonder if he just hates faces and only wants to draw sexy bodies and clothes.

All of that being said, I still really love his work.

>>4596211
This piece from 2 years ago is just so much better to me.

>>4596221
>That broken leg
oof.

>>4595173
Pic related (Senri Kita) should be about the same age and she adapted very damn well to the digital medium
I don't really see 3D being a thing outside of Shirow

>>4596211
>>4596221
Not trying to be mean but what's the appeal of that, it looks like a generic anime girl with soft shading. I like some hentai artists myself but i can't understand why some of you unironically admire that generic stuff, at first i though you were baiting. Pic related a coom artist i like because of his perspective.

>>4596293
what the fuck is that face

>>4593419
I know I had to triple check it was actually him
>>4593847
I like his new stuff just fine as it’s own thing, but I really think the old stuff was just better, not just in terms of technical ability but creativity and character

>>4592849
>I hate Loish
Yes! Thank you, glad I'm not alone on this. I find her head shapes really odd (like fucking aliens ffs), and her brown noses are off-putting, but for some reason everyone does this now. Such bullshit.

>>4591491
Todd McFarlane.

>>4598036
Based

>>4596211
>>4596221
He confirmed that these days he just carbon copy poses straight from Designdoll and then just dedicate himself to rendering for days. It shows on its work.

>>4592288
haha you jacked off to a thank you card? you have a gratitude fetish or something lol

>>4599411
>haha
>lol
ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>4591501
Oof this

>>4591503
i thought it was because the owners of these card games dont pay the artists near enough compared to the profit they get.

>>4595872
maybe its a typo and was supposed to say
'you got butter'
and enjoying your dairy spread means you can no longer enjoy that artist.

>>4593024
>>4591698
Is it just me or is it really hard to tell what's going on and understand the designs of mist the newer cards? It's like the artists forget that these images will only be a few inches big on tiny cards, so small details are really difficult to distinguish

>>4591515
What?

>>4599422
Nah, it was more because it wasn't supposed to become this big, and once it became they started hiring skilled (but soulless) artists.

If you watch the first seasons of Yugioh in Japanese, you will realize how cheap it actually was, barely any soundtrack and subdued voice acting.

4kids or whoever adapted it to the West were the ones to add all that over the top rock'n'roll, some more dramatic shots and whatnot, giving it a "Pokémon treatment" in order to make it look bigger than it was. Card game shows in Japan are one-every-season thing, and while it did get popular in Japan as well, the phenomenon in the West was pretty remarkable.

>>4593115
>>4593419
This is your brain on modern art.

>>4593847
You're right 2019 has way more soul.

>>4592288
>I did buy something off her shop a while back just to support her a bit
Simp.

>>4592288
Did you miss the purpose of this thread? They are supposed to be artists that you got better than. I find it very hard to believe that someone who browses /ic/ draws better than this.

>>4599813
>They are supposed to be artists that you got better than.
OP and that's not what I meant or I would have said "better than". I meant that your skills progressed and thus your taste.

This thread made me have the urges to play yu-gi-oh again, but I stopped at Gx and it all looks so complicated now.

me a few years ago
>wow, This artist is so cool, Their style is so cute and hot, I hope one day I can be this good
now
>meh, I can still coom to this

pls don't kick me

I'd say Richard Corben's work doesn't translates well into digital art. He hasn't stagnated at all, he still goes very hard, but something was lost, when I moved on to digital.

>>4599411
Not that guy, but you haven't done this? Thank you cards from girls are pretty hot. They're like acquaintance love letters.

>>4591501
Can you show a difference? I don't really notice it as being worse, the painting seems better and more traditional

>>4592446
?????
I just don't like the long panels with a thousand different characters because it's very confusing, but his style is super appealing to me

>>4596211
>>4596221
>he doesn't know
He traces designdoll and even showed it on one his streams, that's why his faces are nothing like his bodies, once you see the default hand poses presets in the designdoll you'll notice it in every single drawing hes done

>>4601343
>when I moved to digital
It's okay Richard, you are still good

>>4591491
>look through my "art" folder where I save drawings that I like
>start with the oldest ones
>they all look like shit now when I used to praise them back in the days
>look for those artists to check how they draw now
>still shit

>it's another /op doesnt even hide he is a perma/beg/ / thread
There is more to art then pure mechanical skill, but you'll understand one day once you finish reading LOOMIS

>>4592614
Act how you want to be, not how you are

>guy just draws cute girls in his own style he is finally comfortable with and makes a living, maybe focusing on other parts of life instead of just art now that it has stabilized
>autistic COPE screeching from begs
theres like 9 threads an hour, stop making these

>>4601326
I'm gonna kick you

>>4592539
his point was more interesting subject matter, draw a girl doing something, add an environment
tell a story in your picture

>>4591491
Genzoman.

>>4591491
nurzhan can surely paint well ,but his art in general is just disfunctional,
no ideal, idea , feeling , or market value, just women with weird legs , thats all he does
why is he appreciated for that?

He tries to appeal to coomers, but even that attempt of his is half assed
I want to hit him in the back with a shovel so hard
how can you waste your skills like that...

ITT: "the invincibility of nostalgia"

>>4609937
or people's tastes get better as they get improve at a skill

>>4607414
She's done all that except "interesting subject matter" which is entirely subjective. So you both have no idea how they would improve

>>4591558
>soulful
This

>>4591494
Pyw. It's absolutely low what audience she panders to but her drawings are actually good

Yuji Himukai/Nistick. While I still like his work, I don't love it as much as I did when I was younger. Also, I realized he was a horny lolifag and that ruined the appeal.

>>4593115
what the fuck

>>4596221
LOL

>>4593115
All I see are fun little works and him trying some new shit out
Not everything has to be a finished illustration. Let the guy do his thing. He has already proven himself as competent, now let him enjoy it, fuck you LOOMIS chanting baboons.
Art is about having fun too

>>4592932
both of the pictures in the post are the same artist as the OP image

>stay the same
Is this some kind meme
Show me a pro who you followed that IMPROVED
Everyone who is a pro achieve a level after grinding and maintain
You can be better than your best
You are limited by your talent, what you know, your creative, and your skill set (which are usually good fundementals if you are a professional) you have learned

>>4593115
>Doing shape based for graphic animation
>"Duddereee he is like a retard now"
Fucking retard

>>4614332
Yeah he is chilling painting for himself, he probably draws old shit for work what are under nda

>>4591491
Even Amundsen. He regressed so hard he’s like the Benjamin Button of the artworld

>>4614436
doesn't he twitch stream now? also based comparison

>>4593115
Something about this looks strange.

>>4593889
The new one looks way better.

>>4613788
Really? I tend to like his newer stuff better, even if I don't like his loli tendencies, he even got banned from twitter for it lol

There's an artist I follow. They used to post to /ic/ frequently. When I was just starting out, years ago, they wrote me a lot of helpful pieces of advice and encouragement. Lately it seems like they don't try as much, their new work is very mediocre compared to how they used to draw. Feels bad man.

>>4591698
>left
>unreadable generic bird of paradise with forgettable detail and 2 pale colors
>inspires me to go to sleep

>right
>striking as fuck design, pose, composition, color choices, original and creative
>inspires mystery, fear, confusion, intrigue

>>4593920
I'd say robaato has regressed because he draws all his women with incredibly grotesque lower bodies. Man draws them like they have ass implants. I really prefer him when he wasn't having twitter meltdowns and drawing his girls like they're human.

>>4617272
technical skill and design are two completely different things
>>4617362
the guy needs to learn how to shut the fuck up. i remember reading some anon here saying male artists aren't full of drama, but he immediately comes to mind as a first example

>>4617369
Some guys act like women and get into petty arguments all the time, especially artists for some reason. Had to unfollow robaato because he would have a melt down every month, say hes leaving, delete all his shit then come back in a week. He did it really dramatically one time where he put a complete black profile picture and background and said "thank you to all who support me" like he was gonna kill himself. Then he was back at it in a week. Dudes a humongous faggot.
>>4595417
I got that vid, I'll upload the whole course again anon.

>>4606304
Tell me about it man. As a fa/tg/uy I had a folder with over 30thousand pics. I came here just over a year ago and have since become an upper tier /beg/ my tastes and standards have changed dramatically.

Recently did a purge of said folder and am left with about 4thousand pics.

>>4606304
>>4617422
My tastes in art never really changed as I learned more about drawing. But maybe I have an unconventional palate. Even supposed "cringey bad deviantart" pictures sometimes can be charming and cute. Kind of like an "unconventionally attractive" person. Sure, there are flaws. But there's still an appeal. Pic related is something cute from pixiv I like even if it's not technically impressive.

>>4595417
Don't know if your still here but, Here it is. Its like 5-7 hours of content so I have no idea where that specific rant is. It might be in the first or last video.
https://mega.nz/folder/siJwVQAC#g8RW1ns5qHcGQTWe6dJewQ

>>4591534
I know who you are

>>4591491
Shonuff44
I honestly like his old stuff more than his new stuff.

Sophie Chan

Around a decade ago, I used to think that she was some kind of manga god. Visited her accounts again and her art is more or less the same front-facing, moe blob.

Can't say I "got better" than these particular artists, but Genzoman and Sakimichan. Also Bekkaliev is starting to get there for me. It was novel finding his art for the first time but now it feels like all his drawings are the exact same. Again, they are all still way more skilled than I am.

>>4591491
Is that Ethan Becker?

>>4592552
Never change /ic/

>>4622671
painfully soulless

>>4599108
Based where?

>>4606304
I feel this heaps especially when going round convention artist alleys. Used to buy heaps of shit but now I can't bring myself to like anything in there because all I see are the mistakes. Sucks the fun out a little but at least i'm saving a lot of money.

>but you got better

>>4592288
where is this image from? I can't find it on google or iqdb

>>4599440
No, you're exactly right for thinking like that.
They're a messy clusterfuck of overdesigned bullshit.
>on tiny cards
I had been playing the game for 10 years and quit because i couldn't read the text on the cards anymore.
It's not only the images.

>>4599270
so what you're saying is that i can go pro by becoming a render monkey and buying designdoll???

>>4591491
James Gurney.

>>4626439
Basically

Legendary Frog
Kirbopher

>>4592345
I follow her instagram and her story drives me insane. It a mix between virtue signalling, hipster food and plants.

>>4596176
I really dislike their art, the anatomy and everything is just so un-appealing

>>4627330
Even as a fucking college kid watching Newgrounds in the computer lab, I knew their shit was unfunny and poorly made. Not sure why Kirbopher is even still around.