/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4563920
whats "wrong" with the anatomy in this looks fine to me

>>4563920
take a potato and put it in your pocket. then come back and look at this drawing. what do you see? draw what you see as a study and eat the potato. your style has now improved. you're welcome!

When you get over your dunning Kruger you'll realize anatomy is far from the only thing that makes something good.

>>4563933
/beg/ would have me think otherwise

>>4563933
>>4563940
proof?

>>4563920
Post your drawing and I will tell you, it's probably the polishing

>>4563978

another example of bad anatomy but good looks

>>4563999
Not that other fag but if you wish to know why normies are infatuated with a picture and then quickly forgotten is the fact that many artists put emphasis on the face as it is one of the first things you automatically look for subconsciously leaving mistakes hidden unless you have a trained eye and know how to look at a picture objectively.

Your drawing has a piss poor face which will be ignored because it has zero appeal but if it had a cutesy well drawn and well proportioned face that compliments symmetry it will obscure and occult most if not all of the mistakes from the rest of the figure.

>>4563999
Good one dude, are you trolling or serious

>>4564003
There's bad anatomy and bad anatomy, if you're like 80%+ accurate (which is the average for normies to not notice especially if stylized_ see sakimi) you can easily be carried by rendering, level correction layer, lighting, effects and whatnot

>>4563999
Yeah, "correctness" isn't everything, but you can't be THAT incorrect.
Just keep studying good art and try to make your art look the same, there's so much to it that no one can really put it into words.

>>4563999
Are you otakuking69? If so I’ve seen you post on /beg/ and KF a multitude of times before and I honestly think it’s time to rethink how you’re learning art.

>>4564045
kf?

>>4564048
Kiwifarms.
Besides that I’ve tried to tell you to read KtD multiple times before since you have a severe case of symbol drawing but last time I did you refused to and asked why you should be reading a book by another old man or something like that.

Don't need perfect anatomy as long as you can feel the form

>>4563999
sorry to say this but you’re a dunning kruger

>>4564179
i know its bad, im just upset that other bad art is doing better than mine

>>4564058
What's ktd?

>>4564233
So you know that your art is shit but instead of actually trying to take the time and effort out to learn how to make it look better you instead whine that pieces like OP are much more popular when your drawings have almost 0 appeal?

>>4564233
show us an actual bad on the same level as yours that is welcomed by people on social media
because OP and your drawing are on a whole different level

>>4564271
52 bookmarks
1800 views

ive never raked in that much

>>4564271
700 bookmarks
10k views

>>4563920
Learn to draw dynamic poses, learn to render, be creative with your subjects, develop good taste... you choose.

>>4564292
this >>4564292 is far better than this >>4563999 man, come on

>>4563999
Is this yours

>>4563926
The leg is fucking long under her thigh. In that position, her feet should be positioned near the butt area.

>>4564292
>>4564297
Seriously you think these are on the same level as yours?

>>4564297
Its fetishy stuff they always get more
>>4564292
It's cute and has soul, the /beg/ anatomy works for them
>>4563999
Blank look and terrible face without meaning

>>4564335
>cute and has soul
>blank look and face without meaning

theyre both blank soulless weebshit you cant just say something is bad because you dont personally like it

Dude your stuff is bad enough that I thought you were joking when you posted it. The "bad" art you're posting is miles better than yours.

>>4564348
Actually as I'm looking at it again I'm positive this is a bait thread. Its almost tactically bad

>>4564313
no

>>4564313
No that's not his, that's mine.

>>4563999
You can't be serious with this shit. This is objectively terrible and you should feel bad.

>>4564233
I'm someone else. You don't seem to realize how very different is your art from the ones you posted. Yours don't even look like manga. You're objectively worse than the ones you posted.

>>4563999
The problem I see is that you obviously put effort into it, with the colors and such, bad that’s good needs to look raw and fast.

>>4563999
Dios mio...

>>4564297
And how long ago was it uploaded.

>>4563999
>>4564403
Anon I....

>>4564003
this isn't a figure drawing. it's a picture of breasts. anatomy is only important if you're doing figure drawing.

>>4563999
Based dunnie

>>4563999
The face and head isn’t nearly as fun to look at and the overall drawing is flatter in colors.

>>4563999

>>4564250
Not him, but probably Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson.

>>4564326
in realistic drawings sure but in anime especially it's common to make legs long

>>4563999
don't give up

>>4563999
HOLY FUCK HAHAHA I FUCKE N FELL OF MY CHAIR HAHAH WHAT THE FUCK

>>4563999
Sorry that people are shitting on you so hard. Yes your drawing is quite bad, but everyone is bad when the first start drawing, it's not like you're alone in ever having made a drawing this bad or anything. If you're willing to work hard and study, you can eventually get better.

fuck the haters man
i drew like this when i first started

>>4565938
yes, but ive been drawing for 3.5 years

>>4563920
The most important question to ask yourself in art is "Is this fun to look at?".. Whether you spend 30 minutes or a 1000 hours working so long as the answer to the godly question is "nah not really" your work will be trash 100% of the time prove me wrong? You can't.

pic related is fun to look at. no denying it.

>>4566127
This is fun to look at. a bazillion hours were spent, but the same question has been answered.

>>4566131
you could count the strokes in this one and do it yourself in 30 minutes. still fun to look at.

>>4566127
>inb4 my eyes wtf are those dots

same artist for eyelets

>>4565938
she thicc

>>4566147
lastly this ms paint bullshitting. still fun to look at.

>>4566078
Here is some tough love dude:

If you have been drawing every so often in this weird anime imitation style for 3 years it's really no wonder you haven't made any real improvement.

Ditch the anime style (for now) and just straight up focus on semi realistic sketches of human faces. Grind this shit. Draw 20 heads a day. After each head look at it truthfully and see what went fucking wrong with it and go at it again. If you keep this up you'll be practicing drawing not only faces and heads but forms and shapes as well.

Think about it. Grinding sketching out 20 heads a day is drawing 100 heads in 5 days. Trust me, doing this grind you will inevitable see results. At least more than what you'd see by drawing a flawed art piece and then whining about other people's art getting more attention.

If you're upset at people's artwork getting more attention than yours then fucking do something about it. Put the time in. Seriously put the time in.

Once you've learned the fundamentals of even sketching out a semi realistic face you can quickly adopt that weeb anime style.

Right now you're trying to imitate that style without any fundamentals or solid foundation. That is why your art is being laughed at. The art you're posting may have their own flaws but they all have a solid foundation.

Put in the work to improve and you'll find results. Posting the one drawing you've drawn in 3 weeks and then whining about other artists isn't going to get you anywhere you want to be.

Good luck man.

>>4563920
bro you don't need pin point perfect anatomy to make good art. don't be so obsessed about it

>>4566078
Ouch.
Well. I think there's always hope.
If you care about getting better, even just copying more (good) anime would help. Just pick some actually GOOD anime faces and learn how to draw them from memory. Then you could draw them and maybe some small variations on them.

>>4566139
so simple and yet so good

>>4564352
99% sure he isn't joking
https://www.deviantart.com/otakuking69

>>4563999
Oh no...

>>4565008
Most wholesome post of the year.

>>4563920
You had one fucking job /ic/, you've failed to break his spirit instead he's been pussy pampered and as a result you have the likes of which is in pic related.

>>4563920
This is probably a troll thread so i'll make this quick.
Your work is bad.
Study anatomy.
Draw more often and actually try to improve instead of just "making a new piece"
I can't fathom what in the world possesses you to compare yourself to others' 'success', and be jealous of others when your work is so extremely amateur, but stop it.

And the final nail in the coffin, right in the original post:

>how can i make good art with bad anatomy
>how can i look good without improving

A shameful attitude. Take a long walk and think about art and decide if you actually want to put any more time into this hobby.

If you actually enjoy creating, then your attitude has to change if you want any measure of success or recognition, aside from becoming a lolcow for GMI's.

>>4563999
I think a big thing you should focus on for improvement is making things look less flat, and shadows and shading have less to do with this than you might think. For example, her sleeve extends outward in mostly straight lines, and the shape of the sleeve hole isn't very consistent with what the idea of a real-life sleeve would look like in that position. With the wind blowing the girl's hair back, you'd also think the sleeve would catch on the wind too, pushing the bottom a bit to the left, but instead the bottom extends out right. This is a more specific issue I picked, but I hope you understand what I'm trying to get at.

Try to draw based off models for now -- look at something and try to replicate it onto the paper as best you can. Each time, you can even focus on specific body parts or techniques (of which you can probably figure the ideas around for yourself if you give it some real hard thought while you're drawing) to make even more progress. After you're done with each, look it over and try to see what you did and ask yourself what could have been done better. The basis of self-improvement is examining your mistakes for yourself and thinking about what can be done to fix them.