/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4542424
>2021

2012 is moment their art became soulless.

>>4542431
Gladly she recovered in 2015

>>4542424
Imagine taking this long to get good at drawing.

>>4542625
How long has it taken you?

>>4542424
id say she was even really good and better than most of /ic/ in 2002
she had very clean lines and coloring it looked good
the only bad drawings in this were 2004, maybe 2003 if youre gay and 2006 but even then in 2003 she had good attention to detail with that girls shirt, 2004 just looks meh at best and 2006 isnt that good at all nothing stands out.

>>4542424
batter than 99% of /ic/ in 2002 kekw

2020 march to may /beg/

>>4542765
1 year

>>4542625
>>4542951
You talk big yet you will never post work. Pathetic.

>>4542796
I know anons like to shit on you, but that's actually pretty impressive improvement for just a few months. And I don't know how you feel about your older work, but there's something endearing about your original 'crackwhore' Asuka.

For 30 days I practiced drawing for an hour a day
Over this period I learned how much I hate drawing.

>>4542796
You're not going to see any notable difference in such a short amount of time. Compare yourself until at least next year if you really invest the time and the effort behind improving don't fall for the trap of just drawing 3/4 portrait drawings continue your figure drawing.

>>4543029
kek

>>4542966
ok crab, post yours then.

>>4542796
Ayyy you finally took my advice on all that face stuff dude fuck yeah! Keep up the hard work asukafag

>>4542424
>>4542625
This guy is being an undeserved stinker about it, but he's not really wrong either. There are some big technical milestones at like 2009, 2012, 2015, but inbetween that theres a whole lot of style crutch stagnation. Not to mention this artist started out good already. They may be pushing 30 years deep.

But that should be a motivational thing, not a bad thing. You could accomplish this in 5 year with a bit of effort. Less if you study right.

>>4542923
Nice, congratulations anon. You managed to get two months older in that period.

>>4542424
my progress in digital painting

>>4542796
You're making lots of improvement. Keep going man, I believe in you.

progress(?) in portraiture

>>4542431
>>4542446
It looks pretty soulless from the start

I'm using self portraits as a way to measure my progress. The first drawing was my last doodle before deciding to start studying with dedication. Really liking my progress so far.

>>4543544
>hideaki anno posts here
Damn sorry bro you had to see all the inflation asuka porn i drew

>>4543544
Why would you call this improvement?

>>4543568
I appreciate it, please follow your spark.
>>4543577
Because I'm noticing things I didn't see before. Any feedback is appreciated, even though drawing portraits isn't my objective.

>>4543577
this is the sort of person who "critiques" your progressposts

>>4542796
>>4542424
>T-talent isn’t real

bump

>>4543544
You are improving and very fast, I am proud of you. Don't listen to the crab, you got very good gains for 5 months.

2018 was prob my biggest growth year

i was 15 when i did that sinon fan art. i barely tried enough to improve at all holy shit

>>4545255
this must be a joke.
Nobody improves this hard

>>4545370
The last one is a Sargeant study, and not a particularly good one. That progress makes sense to me.

>>4545370
The last one is a Sargent study, and not a particularly good one. That progress makes sense to me.

>>4543544
wtf Anno?!

>>4545162
Thanks mate, I only use /ic/ to get free books and free classes, I pay no mind for people trying to drag others down. I know I'm trying my best. Here's a doodle of myself having a fever.

>>4545780
To be mistaken for an Asian means I need to grind a lot more. But I don't mind, he's my hero.

>>4546062
Pay no attention to seething crabs, your improvement is really inspiring. What did you study?

>>4542424
That's some slow-ass progress and 19-20 are clearly a step back

>>4546076
Basically, some fundies grinding mixed with figure drawing basics. Read the sticky and many other sources too:

Dropbox until plant construction (will continue but at a longer pace): basic box construction helped me a lot to start thinking in 3D.

Marshall's Vandruff perspective classes: absolutely fantastic

Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, did the exercises, then dropped the book.

Basic Loomis head construction from some YouTube videos

Fist 40 pages of Figure Drawing for all it's worth

All that basic videos by proko (figure/head/hands) and more art YouTubers I can handle at my level: at one point I understood that consuming too much YouTube guides is just procrastination.

Right now I'm starting Glenn Vilppu Drawing Manual to solidify figure construction, as a way to ease myself into his classes. I've watched his Upper Chest class and his teaching is incredible, but I need more figure basics.

I'm trying to study gesture from movies from time to time. Also read James Gurney's Artist Guide to Sketching, drawing life outside is refreshing (pre quarantine in my country).

Glad you find my progress inspiring, I've got inspiration from the best side of /ic/. Hard work: art gains.

>>4543544
peaked at 2019

can someone post an artist thats 20+ that started as litterlal beg shit tier? all before pics are like way above my level. its actually really discouraging.

where is that guy "30 Days to BBC level" progress?

>>4547279
https://twitter.com/spectihkal/status/1256113618967572480

looks like the shit's still at it

>>4542424
>goes from cute girls to manly men
absolutely based

>>4546833
Thanks, i am going to use you as an example for crabs that think talent is real. You progress is a true example of hard work.

>>4543378
The way i see it, the artist had to unlearn classic manga tropes before transitioning toward a healthy approach with form and values.

Going from the same moe blob 3/4 view to a variety of shapes, poses and camera placements starting 2012. Everything before that was fluff hiding deep lack of fundies.

>>4547152
I made the one on the right 2 or so years ago when I started, made the left one a few months ago. Both are drawings from pictures I found online. I never had a strict training regimen and never studied fundamentals, so I'm sure if you drew an hour every day you could get way better than me really fast.

My digital art has improved.

Almost 10 years? >,<

Most of my progress can be tracked here:
https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1215490/1

>>4548209

holy fucking shit dude, wow what ten years can do for someone!

>>4548209
Your concepts are interesting (the bug restaurant stuff mostly), but the image compositions extremely stiff. Try drawing more instead of piecing 90% of your images together with photobashing and 3d models. It would loosen things up a bit.

what are your career goals?

.>>4548360
Thanks!

>>4548437
That's interesting lately I've been really trying to push my compositions and feel like 3d def helps. Planning out the elements lighting and all.

I just went from freelancing to picking up a senior position in a huge game studio. So we'll see how it goes there.

>>4548209
I will never complain about the grind after this. Inspirational stuff.
What would you say were your biggest spurts of improvement throughout your journey and what caused them?
Currently my level is like at your 3rd-4th year, I really hope I keep drawing for the next 10 years and my career doesn't kill my drive.

>>4548474
Attending FZD definitely.
Although i don't think You would need a school to make the same spurt. Just make sure you study from the right material and put in all the hours you have.

Besides that picking up more tools like 3d and photo-bash. I was thoroughly against that which was debilitating me untill my art director forced me to use them.

Just keep on grinding yeah!

>>4548462
which studio?

>>4548490
Can't disclose that yet. A epidemic has popped up and delayed the whole process >,<

>>4548487
hey, your work is really cool and inspiring
so the biggest part of getting to your level is consistency in practicing?
in your time in the industry, whats the fastest youve seen someone go from being mediocre to being outstanding? what kind of person were they?

>>4548209
super cool. What do you use for your textures, and how do you design your palette/value structures?

It looks like a much nicer, less gimicky, refined version of chromatic aberration you're using to pick your color palette, really curious what you're doing to achieve that effect

>>4543036
The one on the right isn't from January 2020 though, God knows when that's from.

>>4548533 Cheers!
Biggest improvements were in school for sure. Some guys came in drawing stick figures and ended up in AAA studios after graduating.
https://fzdschool.com/for-students/before-after
Take that with a grain of salt tho as the drawing to the left they gave us only an hour and the one to the right we had unlimited time.
We simply didnt sleep at that school, so yeah i think its hours put in mostly. Also make sure you study from good resources, dont waste your time.
>>4548535
Thanks!
Usually I work in high contrast first, this make sure everything is readable on the most basic level. then fill in everything in between. When im nearing finish ill remove the darkest darks and lights lights to put them where i want the most contrast or they seem the most natural.
Colors i usually keep very basic, depends on the mood or design im going for. the chromatic aberration your talking about is achieved with the curves turned up like this and then lowering the opacity or erasing out colors you dont want.
Hope that helps!

>>4542424
Ah another suicide fuel thread. Lovely

>>4548585
Wow very cool. Added this technique to my notes, thank you.

>>4548209
>soul vs soulless

>>4548209
>almost 10 years
>filename says "5 years"
Which is it? I genuinely want to know because this improvement is amazing.

>>4546833
If you're still here, mind my asking what exactly you did when grinding fundamentals? Also how long you draw every day?

>>4548209
Fuck dude, these are really good. You are truly an inspiration.

Two questions if you don’t mind: how many hours did you draw per day on average and how was the time of studying and drawing devided?

>>4547963
His example doesn't disporove the objective fact that talent is real, dumbshit

>>4549396
it does prove the bar to get in isn't as high as one may think. looking at artstation front page gave me the impression that you needed to be great at painting and design to make it. maybe I should sign up for VolenCK's art course

>>4549023
Lmao
>>4549082
10 yearsman
>>4549361
So when I was in FZD we would draw all day except for classes so maybe about 14 hours a day.
They would teach us Design and fundamentals at the same time. I think thats a big plus, design is very overlooked in all the online tutorials I've seen.
Your drawing might be perfectly rendered but if the design wasn't there the teachers would shit on it anyway.

When I got a job in a indie studio I could only get to 9-10 hours before i was too burned out. It was very demanding.
Now as a freelancer I work whenever I feel like it, It has become a habit. I'll get depressed if I don't create for a while, so I'm pretty much all ways working on some kind of project.

>>4549417
how do people stay motivated to draw 14 hours a day at FZD?
was it
>well i paid a ton of money for this and everyone else is drawing so i might as well draw too and i dont want to have a bad crit in front of everyone

>>4549341
I'll detail my journey a bit more as I think some people may have gotten the wrong idea. I'll start by saying that I didn't go from absolute /beg/ to my level in five months, I did indeed draw as a child and teenager, mostly cartoony and doodly, on my own. I was avoiding to talk about this because it's way too frequent that some people use "drawing as a child" as an equivalent to "talent" - but those who seek excuses believe in anything that silence their demons.

When I was 13, I did some cheap drawing classes that taught me basic "drawing what you see" skills, stuff you get from books like "Drawing on the right side of the Brain" - observational drawing. My teacher was really lazy, he didn't teach or motivate a lot, but so was I. I hated studying, discipline, and I hated just drawing still lifes: fruits, baskets, cloth. This was the last - and best - drawing I've made while studying with him, at 14, but I hated realism, hated studying drawing. I just wanted to draw cartoony dragons and robots.

I've dropped drawing seriously since then. Now I'm 30, have no monetary aspiration with drawing, I want to make something beautiful. So I started studying again, from where I've stopped, with discipline and knowledge that I have limited time on Earth. It saddens me that people in this thread get hopeless just because some people develop over time with hard work: for me, the belief in talent is the pure hopelessness.

Answering directly your questions: I can't quantify the time spent grinding fundamentals, as I keep doing them a little bit everyday. I like to draw straight lines and elipses as a warm-up, some boxes every day. I did all the basic drawabox exercises. When I don't know what to draw, I go to Croquis Café and do some gesture sketching for 20mins, as I want to get serious with figure drawing.

For how many hours I draw, I draw on my free time. Some days it's 1h, many days it's 3h, but in this quarantine, I may draw for 6 hours or more.

>>4549747
I started around the same time as you and I'm still worse than you were at 14.

>>4549923
I know a 16yo girl that can singlehandedly btfo 95% of /ic/, here is her drawing. Kids can learn really fast but not many of them spend their time learning productive skills, and not many ever have an opportunity to fully realise their potential. This girl has amazing skills but she is simply not interested in becoming a digital artist or going to an art academy, she just wants to draw stuff for her small circle of friends and relatives.

>>4550010
Here is her other drawing. I don't think that many /ic/'s "greats" can even compete with her when it comes to drawing with references in traditional

>>4550010
>>4550018
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>4549923
Well then, I'll make a proposition for you. Do the following exercises of the book I keep mentioning, Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. Do the:
>Upside down Picasso
>The negative space one
>draw your hand
Use pen and paper, take your time for each exercise, they should, at least, take 1 hour each. For the hand one, I recommend making a viewfinder, I used a piece of transparent plastic and a small frame. Post your results.

Here's a doodle I did around 14 years old.

>>4550131
Pencil*

>>4550010
>>4550018
I was about to say russian academy middle schooler tier but
> Бepфин pиcyнки-5.jpg

бpoтишкa y нac ли нeт тeх чтo нe нa pycи

>>4550136
Этo тypчaнкa.

>>4550131
Picasso exercise was one of the first things I've done when I started

>>4550192
Well done. My point is that if you are able to "photocopy" lines, you are able to copy shapes and shadows. The only thing I may have more than you is mileage.

When I did it I used a bigger piece of paper, and needed to clip an extra piece of paper to continue. Good luck in your journey.

>>4550192
this is what demotivates me so much, everyone that starts is so much better than me , mine looks like a blind person tried copying in it.

>>4550018
And that is just fine
Most of us are not trying to be traditional academic artists
I have seen the bargue drawing course recommend a few dozen times over the years and the russian academic course recommended once

I thought this thread was supposed to be about inspiration, not making people suicidal.

>>4550010
Amazing. I didn't do these kinds of drawing at that age. It was mostly machine things like pic related. Realism kinda bored me.

>>4546600
good brogress. I was going to say you peaked in 2019 but I'm seeing that you're pushing yourself in new mediums instead stagnating into the cutesy comic style cope. So keep improving and pushing forward.

>>4546600
Can you post just the first one with the blue bird? I want to save it

>>4548209
Damn dude, this is some fucking quality work. I'm happy to see people like you post their progress as motivation for the others (including myself) to keep working on their skills. A couple of your pieces gave me some Let it Die vibes, with all the makeshift-ish looking weapons and those decaying/forgotten buildings, that's some good stuff brother.

Do you have a twitter/art station/pixiv account?

>>4550040
Just fucking make art. Learning is not a linear process, but it's straightforward. You don't know the circumstances involved in growing anyone's skillset. Self pity isn't going to improve you. Either is the self doubt manifesting into frustration. You've got GMI in you, stop doubting yourself. You do enjoy making art right? If you're doing it for you it shouldn't be so bad.

This is my first ever digital drawing from 2016-

>>4555131
And this is my most recent one

>>4554399
here, you can have it.

Here's an improvement I made of an old WIP from last year vs this year.

Granted I had a 6 month hiatus due to sickness but now that I'm back on track shit's improved a lot.

Whatchu guys think? Keep in mind not everythings rendered yet.

The /14 one is as a whole from imagination - the 19 is jsut a study for values.

I kinda improved on a lot of things... and all those years inbetween couldn't even draw everyday and had so many breaks.. life give you sometimes something you have to go through so you grow up - but now this year im drawing everyday and taking it seriously to the point were i only want to draw and improve everyday.. finally i have some time to get all thse years back ^^
don't posting my current works, but improving kinda ok at my understanding.

>>4557079
It's hard to say without seeing something from imagination, but yes your values are SO much better. Only thing is your brushwork seems kinda messy, the edges are all a bit blurry and wiggly. Keep it up.

>>4557096
Thanks.
Yep my edges are blurry on that piece - but i improved on that subject too - i don't even paint as much as i draw.
But since my drawing improves my paintings dratically did too, even if i did not put as many hours into painting as into drawing and that happend intuitively.

>>4557079
Ngl legit thought the right was a photo for a good second.
Great job!

I think the problem with these improvement posts
(for me at least) is that I don't have a good fundamental and I'm inconsistent with my skill level.

If you just look at the good one you wouldn't be looking at the full picture.

Art is a hobby, so I don't actively work on it as hard as I would like, since when I want to draw art I just want to have fun. But that creates stagnant growth.


The top ones demonstrate my progress, while the bottom one are ones I don't like because it shows me how long the road ahead still is and how inconsistent my abilities are.

>>4555132
I love it! I would love to be able to weave in colours like that, but that's getting ahead of myself I think.

>>4554500
Glad people find it inspirational :D nowadays I barely post there since no one sees it anyway but it's fun to see the progression over the years. Hard to believe it's been 10 years tho.

Sure, here you go man:)
https://www.artstation.com/reach-designs

>>4548209
You should be building an ArtStation portfolio.

These where painted a long time ago, before i started to take classes and do academic shit. The oldest of them maybe 7-8 years old, if i remember correctly. I was painting maybe one picture in a year, sometimes a couple years. And didn't draw between them even some doodles on paper, because i am a lazy imbecile that wasted time.

>>4556227
Looks like you used a ref in 2019 but not this year. You went from a 3D head properly attached to a neck and body to a flat head floating above the body. I think you're getting ahead of yourself thinking about rendering; it's impossible to render meaningfully when your base sketch isn't even in 3D. You need to walk before you run, anon.

>>4557721
I already posted those, those works all where created in last 2 years, in that time i started studying how to draw properly, academically(?). Those all made at home by myself, without a teacher help. I won't show works that i did on classes, because i can't call them completely mine ( and because the difference between them and these is dramatic and humiliating for me).
Don't waste time, pls.

>>4542424

>>4557271
Thank you so much anon! :) good luck with your journey <3

>>4557738

I think I get what you mean bro, (I just realized the right head has no shading in the face fuggg).

Also is it because the heads tilted giving it that floating look (combined with the neck skin being covered by the undersuit?)

>>4542424

>>4557762
Dear god anon please stop, please don't do this to me.

>>4542424
Up

>>4542424

>>4559708
Damn, you did good. That's really a great improvement for 2 years. Keep up, anon!
>>4559762
You also did good.

Stuff from this year, I'm still pretty beg tier but at least im getting a little better. I really want to be able to paint digitally by the end of the year so hopefully I can reach that goal.

>>4548209
Is that the main dude?

>>4559708
the rendering's ok but everything else is beg

>>4559762
You've failed with the perspective unless you intended for the waiters to be bending sideways and to have huge heads/ tiny bodies.

>>4560788
Your quality is all over the place. Learn fundamentals before trying to get good at rendering.

>>4561455
Not the anon who posted that, but I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a distorted perspective

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>>4559762 >>4560788
nice work anons

>>4564778
You just chose every post in thread, didn't you?

>>4557266
i dont see much improvement until this year. so whatever you did between 2019 and 2020, keep doing it. it's working

>>4550018
that's fucking impressive. i tried drawing this ugolino marble statue. very similar. mine is no where near as good. I think people just assume being a copy machine is easy. It most certainly is not. That's impressive.

I know it's mediocre and I'm not gonna make excuses for myself but I'm still kind of happy with it.

>>4542424

>>4548209
Right reminds me of Fallout 1 & 2.

>>4565913
Normally dont use meme words, but the right image has lots of soul

Please help, I haven't improved in over a year. I draw everyday too.
What do I do?

>>4558482
lmao

>>4567631
You have a poor grasp of forms in space. Your proportions and anatomy have improved, but because you’re only thinking in 2D it looks like your characters got squished under a steamroller. Read Chapter 5 of Vilppu’s Drawing Manual

>>4567651
Thank you, do you have a link to it?
I can't seem to find it in it in the artbook thread.

>>4542424
I recently started drawing again after 4 years of not doing so. I'm trying to work on lineart because I still fucking hate painting as much as I did when I stopped drawing but it was kind of the only thing I was good at. This is one month of improvement.

>>4567662
Just google “vilppu manual pdf”, there should be a drive link on the first page

>>4567695
ok thanks

>>4542424
mine

>>4567651
do we really ever think in 2D unless we're ultimate /beg/? as you improve don't you just improve your technique to describe 3d forms you've learned better rather than have i better feeling for the form?
>because you’re only thinking in 2D
IMO Anon probably thinks in 3d already, but doesn't have the technique/practice and knowledge of the models. that's why they look flat

>>4565478
>>4564778
Makes me feel good tho thank you hugbox anon

Added 2020.

Threads like this only prove that you're wasting your time if you're not naturally talented.

>>4568042
yo pops how do you draw like now? this one is 2015 to 2016?

>>4568894
>Those anatomically correct bird legs, on kazooie

>>4550040
>it's another "normies get impressed by photocopiers" episode

>>4550018
>>4550040
>russian file names
make sense, considering I saw one thread where the anon's talked about how russian artschools are hard as shit to get into lol

>>4569279
meant for
>>4550018
>>4550010

>>4558482
Genuinely decent improvement anon. Keep grinding

>>4569069

>>4558482
By 2027, Goku's body will have completed one full rotation.

Quarantine has given me some opportunity to improve. But I still have lots to work on. Would anybody have any helpful advice on hands and feet? I’m kind of ignorant/new to /ic/ and I don’t really know where to look

>>4569352
yo do you have a discord or anything I can add you on? Genuinely love your work you've been here since like day 1 lol

>>4546600
Soul

>>4568894
Love your stuff, anon

>>4569458
@SadSadPops in twitter

>>4567631
Become an architect and feel the form

>>4569775
can i ask you how long you've been drawing for? I remember you were here like since the beginning.

>>4549023

>>4569000
More that self-aducation is not for everyone.

>>4569780
2015 i start

I was just watching at my high school drawings, first is from 2008, new from 2020

>>4570748
forgot image

>>4570749
twelve years, think about how long that is

Due to lockdown I don’t have access to many of my older stuff.
Also my 2020 stuff is very similar to 2017 since I basically “just draw” for my whole life. I barely drew between 2017 and 2020.

>>4548585
I always regret not following through with FZDSchool after being accepted. Instead I got a wicked case of imposter syndrome, joined the navy and ended up working with computers. Havent drawn seriously or with any direction for nearly 6 years now and it's probably the biggest mistake of my life. I have no passion for what I do and I now with the responsibilities I have with a family now I cant feasibly drop everything and go to Singapore for a year like I could've out of high school. Just so fucking depressing man.

>>4548487
>>4548585
So let me get this straight. In order to make it I have to basically be rich and move to Singapore?
>in b4 nah you can achieve this on your own
Fucking how? I have no direction and no one to ask!

>>4543544
Shave your head pubes

>>4571648
you pigeon comics are peak soul

>>4571661
Feelsbadman, but the grass is always greener on the other side. Who knows, maybe if you'd gone through with it you might have ended up feeling no passion for it either in the long run, just with school debt and no secure job. People can always draw and do small projects on the side, that's the reality for so many (not only visual artists etc.)

>>4576172
Thank you for that response, anon. That's what I try to tell myself when I go through bouts of depression, I can still always do it as a hobby and even do some commission work in addition to my current job. If anything, in the long run itd probably be less stressful, but it will always remain one of those "what could have been" moments

>>4573924
Thanks, glad to read that

>>4572207
Nah I think the guys that improved a lot in fzd would have made it anyway. Some classes have 50% dropping out, about 50% of the graduates don't work in the industry.

Even the teachers said we were throwing away our money since you could study the same subjects back home. The main thing the school does is to motivate you to work as hard as you can.

You would have to put your work on the wall for the teachers to critique. That way you could see exactly who put in the most work, increasing the competitive feeling between the students.
Then sometimes Feng would come in and absolutely shit on everyone's work, saying that only the best 2 might have a chance to make it. some people would leave the class crying. For some it was too much and they dropped out.

Mainly FZD taught me that with dedication and hard work you can move mountains.
Put in the hours, practice the right things and you'll be surprised where you'll get.
Attitude plays a big part.

>>4576333
>Then sometimes Feng would come in and absolutely shit on everyone's work, saying that only the best 2 might have a chance to make it. some people would leave the class crying.
Any videos of these critique sessions? I wanna see this so bad.

>>4576756
>>4576333
damn, imagine feng doing a gordon impression

>>4576333
>My biggest improvement was attending FZD definitely
>But its ok you don't need to! You just need to spend 100 times longer :) getting stuck at every step
Fuck you nigger! I already draw every time I can but I have to also to work a day job. I struggle finding time to put 6 hours daily on top of my work and this is by having no life basically. Every time I'm stuck with any subject I'm fucking stuck big time since I have absolutely no one to ask to. I wish I had the money to go fucking yelled at by chink man and be able to draw 16 hours a day. Fuck you you entilted bitch!

>>4576878
gmi

>>4544201
>draws for 20 years
>le talent its so unfair

>>4576898
How the fuck I'm gonna make it if most of my already limited time is spent trying to self reflect with no direction whatsoever what the fuck should I study, find and reverse engineer a time lapse process, put the work, draw a fucking lot and then trying to decipher what the fuck did I do wrong and how the fuck to fix it while being oblivious. My current state would be a blind man leading a blind man to a meat grinder through a minefield on a fucking tight schedule using instructions recorded on fast forward on a foreign language while also getting interrupted half the time.

>>4577150
fun with pencil with your lord and savior loomis

>>4577150
We even had this 40 yo programmer in our class that decided it was time for a change of careers. He's working in a indie studio right now.

Seemed like an interesting thing to do. I noticed I produced much more work early on then later on. After taking a break and procrastinating doing any art, I found that I sort of regressed so I started grinding out drawings and trying to draw every day.

Split this up because this image would be far too massive to upload by itself. Tried to include as much rough ass artwork I thought was amazing at the time I had made it.

(2014 - 2018)

>>4578356
(2019-2020)

I'm trying to make my drawings better before practicing rendering again so I've begun the grind.

>>4577150
>using instructions recorded on fast forward on a foreign language while also getting interrupted half the time.
I see we're a few going through this

>>4578286
What part of I'm too poor to enroll in FZD you don't understand?

>>4577150
based schizo

>>4557745
These are pretty cool anon

>>4561445
what do even mean I wish I could time skip to be at that level

>>4543266
>Over this period I learned how much I hate drawing.
Because you have to force yourself to do it?

>>4578446
>schizo
someone called? >>4580782

>>4542424
He sold his soul to the devil in 2017

>>4581701

>>4581703
>>4581701
still ass but improvement

been drawing seriously for a few weeks. 9 days between these drawings

>>4581716
Nice, what are you doing to improve?

I could be getting better faster considering the amount of hours I put into drawing, so I'm slightly embarrassed, but overall I'm content. If I continue at the same rate I'll be where I want to be in maybe 6 -8 years, which is before I'm even 30, so that's nice. Of course plateaus can happen, but hopefully I'll be progressing nicely.

It's so weird to look back on work I used to be proud of and see now that it was total 13 year old on deviant art tier, but that just means I'm getting better.

>>4582553
doing the exercises from the new drawing on the right side of the brain. will do keys to drawing after i finish this

>>4582580
That's some pretty good progress

>>4583194
Ahh okay thanks. I tried to do that book but I thought it was a lot of filler. Might have to go back to it looking at your progress. Keep it up.

>>4582580
august 2019 is my favorite but you've come a long way friend

>>4582580
I remember you, I've always been a fan of your color choices.

On a more off topic note, any books/courses you'd recommend and how to study from them?

I'm sort of getting bored of coomer stuff but it's uh, good figure practice

>>4583198
thank you!

>>4584531
Aug 19 is where I start to like my work, still like that piece though I can see a lot of flaws.

>>4584557
I just do a lot of croquis cafe
studies whenever I can, and study off of a lot of different art. Finding things you like and adopting parts of them for yourself + making them your own. Stuff like linework has been hardest for me desu, and it just took a lot of practice. I'm still no where close to where I want to be with that.

>>4559708
>>4561445
For me the shading system is a bit odd

>>4542796
It just looks like you spent more time on the latter one. Looks good but not enough material for inspiring improvement you fucking attention whore

>>4585066
based

>>4584713
her hand needs surgery and fast

>>4581711
I dig it.

>>4568894

You're the one who drew Strawberry Shortcake taking a steamy Strawberry shit, didn't you ?

>>4582580
I've been quitting since 2012 because I was deciding between programming or this. You've done a lot better than I did. Congrats.

>>4586008
is this /dad/ compilation or something? no way it's drawn by the same person

>>4586544
>no way it's drawn by the same person.

this is the reason nobody ever recognizes me lol. I've been posting here regularly for 10 years now but my styles are so inconsistent that nobody knows it's me. And that's just my digital work.

>>4571661
The pandemic has essentially forced ALL art schools into offering classes online right now. And since everyone out of work, most of them are on discount.
It may not be the FZD of your dreams, but there is good instruction out there if youre willing to look for it.
Have you tried Gnomon? Theyre online pretty much year round and have a good rep among pros. Or any of the courses offered on Artstation marketplace? You can make it anon.

>>4551261
It's like God put me through a whole life of boredom and suffering just so I could see everyone but me achieve their dream.