/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Has anyone managed to produce anything remotely to "authentic" looking japanese anime on their own without copy yet?

>>4539798
You tell me anon, this is a WIP, is it good enough?

Want to run a game of pic related but I really would love to draw the characters for my players and some key characters for my plot.

What kind of fundies do I have to grind before I start copying the art of this book? I only know perspective at a low /int/ level.

(Posted this on ALT but I’m adding it here for the sake of getting more opinions since it’s been all varied.) What hairstyle do you think is best obviously the first is more rendered but don’t let that cloud your judgement

>>4539798
Yes, it's not that hard.

>>4539870
3rd

>>4539870
>>4539886
This

>>4539773
kinda

>>4539870
>Posted this on ALT but I’m adding it here for the sake of getting more opinions since it’s been all varied.
so you can discard them all anyway. your lighting is consistently shit and always too yellow but you never listen.

>>4539798
How am I to know whether it looks authentic or not? I am not Japanese.

>>4539913
That's the point. /asg/ insists upon learning from "authentic" japanese anime material especially when it comes to tutorials as it is the only source of information that has been folded a thousand times underneath the rising sun. Everything else is gobbledygook

>>4539798
A few anons on alt can

Are these threads worth me posting to?

>>4539901
It looks like the face is a mask she's wearing, the features don't conform to the planes of the face

>>4540005
No

I started sketching this and I'm unsure about positioning the breasts/nipples.
I know that when the arm raises the pectoralis pulls the breast up, but I'm failing to transmit the feeling of heaviness when it happens or how far the nipple will rise.
I don't know if the armpit is right too.

I also decided to move the mouth slightly to the side, idk if this is the infamous sidemouth but I had the impression that it looked better than before, like the top right of the related pic.

Most of this character’s body is covered with cloth and armor, so these details will not be apparent later on, but I’m doing it now in order to practice what I see in books

>>4540051
Face is fucked

>>4540056
I literally thought that the exact moment you posted

>>4540051
fuck this is what most pisses me off from begs, they have the fucking answers at hand but they don't use it, you got all you need in your ref pics but nah better ask here because book did not told you what do step by step holding your hand, you fucking deserve to get corona desu

>>4540051
also, this is the kind of style that I aim to someday approach
so, for a figure with breasts in that shape, how would the positioning of one of them be if one of the arms were raised

>>4540056
thanks, but I unironically still don't see it, can you point me to what is there for me to try to fix

>>4540066
>this is what most pisses me off from begs
pyw

>>4540057

>>4540067
>they have the fucking answers at hand but they don't use it
>>4540066
>thanks, but I unironically still don't see it,

This is what I call beginner blindness. Take a break, go study faces for a bit, and then come back to this piece and you'll see it.

>>4540078
so I suppose it is the blind leading the blind because you also did not point out the problem to me

>>4540051
you literally have what the breast should do but you're ignoring it to draw a fucking bag of sand, so it looks like shit. and the other breast looks retarded because you're hanging it like a water balloon from the clavicle. it doesn't look like it's on her chest at all.

there are other fundies issues that make no sense like where you placed the head. you didn't use the rib cage at all so it doesn't slot in. to the ribcage like a real head would and makes it look uncanny. i touched the one breast and the head placement.

>>4540104
see >>4540086

>>4540067
>so, for a figure with breasts in that shape, how would the positioning of one of them be if one of the arms were raised
almost the same shape but maybe slightly softer/rounded, pointed upwards and at least showing the pec going to under the deltoid. you're missing any subtlety of how breasts actually attach to a chest, just drawing meat buns instead.

draw whatever looks right or like the artists you want to draw, because it's just comically sized at that point and doesn't obey physics any more than it obeys what the composition or pose is. it's not real anatomy and doesn't have to be.

>>4540104
Terrible advice. Don’t give out advice if you’re beg

I love how this thread is just /beg/-tier people giving advice to other /beg/tiers.
You only need to look at the discord, it's full of /noskillz/

>>4540104
>>4540116
I used the ribcage to position the neck in the inclined cavity that is between the pit of neck and the seventh vertebra

the clavicle should be seen in this angle because it connects to the acromion otherwise it will appear that the figure has no scapula, you simply deleted it and the trapezius

about the tits, you just maded her flat
and the bag "hanging from the clavicle" is because the pectoralis starts after two thirds of the clavicle and this is the volume of it,
while the other third is where the deltoid and trapezius fit

>>4540144
thanks mate

>>4540144
>draw whatever looks right or like the artists you want to draw, because it's just comically sized at that point and doesn't obey physics any more than it obeys what the composition or pose is. it's not real anatomy and doesn't have to be.

lmao at this beg cope

>>4540147
>look at discord
私は性転換者ではありません。

Sorry, but I am not a transgender.

>>4540175
The people on discord and the people posting here are roughly the same for 60%

>>4540067
>thanks, but I unironically still don't see it

>>4539798
This was my best attempt, still clearly off. A huge part of it is their lines, which I'm guessing look totally different from Westerners' because of growing up writing kanji vs. writing letters.

>>4540216

I don't know if I understand what you're trying to say but that line is not the end of the neck lol
is the sternocleidomastoid coming from behind the ear, I personally have the habit of making the neck too thick
here the figure without the hair

>>4540234
loool. Have you ever looked at a real neck?

>>4540234
i know, that's not why i red line it but no surprise you don't know it.

>>4540246
I think I understand, you were talking about the size of the skull, anyway, I appreciate feedbacks that make me
see my mistakes, anyway thanks

>>4540154
What book is this?

>>4540302
Hampton - Figure Drawing Design and Invention

>>4540302
Manga Materials on sad panda

>>4540305

>>4540066
100% guarantee that guy is better than you lol

>>4540353
>imagine seething at an 3 hour old post

jinkies

>>4540234
I don't think the neck is really the thing that makes the drawing weird here. I think its the clavicle. It looks like the deltoid is in place of where the clavicle should be. Either way good work anon.

uhhh

>tfw your favorite eceleb likes your art on twitter
feel good man

is this close to those japanase ''half assed'' sketchs?

i will work on hatching later tho

>>4540496
sure
cute

>>4540496

>feel pretty good about a drawing
>do the mirror check
>cringe at my own work

pretty cool where 1.5 years of fundies can take you

>>4540051
still wip
>>4540385
thanks, I thought about it

>>4540612
you really dont see anything wrong with her braids,legs,hand holding the pole,armpit,face,head

>>4540540
>that pic

>>4540659
>seanigger hours
>crabbing intensifies

Dropping a channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeySBnV71dyC-gwqapq9NwQ
His practice drawings always start with pure construction, so if youre unsure of how to use it for stylization, hes helpful.

>>4540692
neat
are there other japanese youtube channels like this?

>>4540699
Youd have to look around, i mainly come across channels through recommended videos, so they tend to be tailored to me.
https://www.youtube.com/user/mattjabbar
Not japanese, but this guy uses trad tools (watercolor, colored pencil, etc.) and mainly paints backgrounds. He has some digital stuff too.
Looking up manga artists you like works too, since theres a chance they have at least some drawings recorded, like Yusuke Murata. A bunch of his streams are on youtube.

>>4540687
>can't refute anything
>c-crab
?

>>4540758
unironically pyw

>>4540772
>somehow my work will change anything i said
yeah grasping at straws aren't we

>>4540776
>it's just a /beg/ crab trying to make criticism
fucking coward

>>4540776
>somehow my work will change anything i said
yes, because if you don't show your level chances are that you also don't know how to fix what you said

>>4540104
>the other breast looks retarded because you're hanging it like a water balloon from the clavicle
Not that anon but I was told that's what you are supposed to imagine it as. Was I lied to on purpose?

>>4540612
Hey Anon, I think the people crabbing on you were just retarded /beg/s trying to show off, but, her face here is definitely not that good.

>>4540302
pixiv tutorials

>>4540612
Do you have a twitter or something where you post art? I think it's cute.

>>4540612
Your style is very close to the style I want to develop eventually (tho i'm still beg so nowhere even close to it right now) any advice that immediately pops out for getting to where you are?

>>4539773
Are there any quick reference/guides for doing anime artist style constructions, the loomiscore ones I'm used to don't really seem to fit.

>>4540612
I was going to help you out with a redline but you sound like such a passive aggressive bitch I don't feel like doing it anymore.

cc? >>4541756

>>4540983
Thanks, I've always had problems with faces, I'm trying to improve on this, I even tried to use well known literature about it but I think I'll have to think of another way to approach it

>>4541012
thanks anon, I have a pixiv, it's recent, so there's still not much, it's here if you want to take a look
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/14735673

>>4541306
I don't know if I am the most appropriate person to help you with figure, but vilppu helped me to at least risk doing things from imagination. I also watch Lack's videos on youtube
and I think coloring became easier for me after I started doing it in greyscale

>>4541466
if your reply is genuinely trying to help I will appreciate it, like that mysterious redliner anon, who always makes very harsh comments about my work but I always thank him and save what he posts to study about it
because I know it’s possible to learn something new from that, when I see that someone really understands what they are talking about, I bow my head and try to dissect every word of that post, but if it is an unfounded comment I cannot take it seriously. well, if what you were going to say would be useful, know that I would unironically listen but it is up to you whether you still want to help or not
also, there are less posts here of mine than you think

>>4541786
yes the chinese comunists are among us

death to Xi

>>4541792
you think this>>4540659
is crabbing, because it was a genuine question.

>>4541829
I confess that I have seen worse but this is a comment that doesn't add anything because you still have no clues about the problems of the parts he mentioned, and if you ask what's wrong they just send you to study fundamentals which I obviously already do.
and he even asks if I really don't see anything wrong, why would I draw that way if I knew it would be wrong?

I'm not asking anyone to hold my hand or to make a redline, but a brief comment such as "move the nose to that side" or "make the head smaller" would be enough to help.

don't get me wrong if this is what it looks like, and I've already received good feedback in this place so I still think it's worth coming here, but here is an example of hard comments that help you to improve, like >>4540216,
and I'm thankful for this guy

>>4541955
also, this guy>>4540385

I think and people have agreed that my eyes look flat, how can i change that?

>>4541982
I have seen images made by string theory programs with more soul than this

>>4541955
i guess it sounded more like rhetoric/mock? question, but it was just a simple question from my perspective, maybe it's me but seeing all those things i mentioned and thinking that you really didn't see anything wrong with it, it boggled my mind and that's why i asked.

>>4541982
gib milk

>>4542010
A lot of times you see things clearly wrong in your art but you don't know how to fix it, and it's not worth spending forever on so you just leave it. Also sometimes people can really surprise you with their reactions, things you think are big problem spots get glossed over by other people and things that you think look fine get called it. It's very hard to be objective about your own art.
- t. /beg/

>>4541982
personally I would try shrinking the eye on the left side (her right eye) and dragging it more to the left (her right).
you also need to change some of the shapes and lines a bit. some portions don't make much sense in terms of representing the eye properly.
maybe sinking the pupils deeper into the eye could help, the iris is slightly concave

>>4542010
As it is still a WIP I would still work on the hands, the volume of the thighs and the armpits since in my process I paint directly on the sketch, but believe it or not other things like braids, the head or the infamous face I did unironically thinking it was decent

>>4541792
I'm retarded, I can't find anything named lack on youtube

>>4542055
no worries, I was very vague when I said that thinking now

https://youtu.be/xu_LENRSw5s?t=2857

his videos are more to learn the process and how to paint in greyscale, use the clip studio japanese manual to see the name of the layers he uses

>>4540612
do you unironically see nothing wrong with the face.

>>4542470
Do you unironically redline and see nothing wrong with the face?

>>4540305
Kill yourself.

>>4540305
Daily Reminder that the guy that tells people to us hampton and spams loomis draws shit like this:

>>4540154
it's not a book but a twitter/pixiv account named manga materials. They don't translate anymore becasue SJWS ruine everything.

>>4542503
He's still right you know.

>>4542510
But you aren't right tho. I mean some people have more gains with other authors.

>>4542503
very based of him

>>4542532
>"him"
samefag.

>>4542470
please dont tellme the one in the right are how they should be, i swear to god

>>4542610
These entire threads are a parody of in itself.

I got a note to make things less saturated which do you prefer? (also I opted for the 3rd hairstyle but kept the cow lick back hair since it looked more elegant.)

>>4542680

>>4542680
dude stop drawing with such a 2d perspective you're trying to imply depth with the back leg but it looks really amateurish I'm not saying this to be an IC cuck you need loomis my friend.http://illustrationage.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/andrew-loomis-fun-with-a-pencil.pdf

>>4542680
loomis.

>>4542666
The shading on the skin looks muddy, remember shades are cooler, you have to change the hue in addition to the saturation and value.

>>4542666
your saturations and color temperatures are all completely off. i can't tell if your monitor is fucked or you have bad eyes.

>>4542738
Monitors fucked

We got a guy here "asking for critique" who is actually bragging. But people won't kiss his ass becasue this is 4chan

>>4542666

... and the crabs nitpicking non.exisant mistakes out of jealousy
>>4542730
>>4542738

>>4542748
Its a valid critique, no one is crabbing. Fuck off.

>>4542748
This thread is comedy central

>>4542755
Yes you are, if you didn't know it was anon, a westerner, who posted that picture you'd be using it to masturbate on /trash/ and /e/ but since this is a filthy gaijin it's "off"

At anon's level, the problem isn't really his anatomy or color theory but the subjects and the poses he chooses to depict. It's very plain and mundane. He can aim higher

>>4542748
I’m actually making corrections based on the opinions like with the hair. How is that attention seeking.

>>4542759
Holy projection. His values are off, this is a fact that I'm pointing out so he can improve, jfc how insecure are you.

>>4542767
On that note i’d really appreciate a reference that depicts how the values should look.

>>4542772
Hahahaha you think you're actually going to get anything useful out of the crabs that's hilarious

>>4542772
Notice the shadows are red-shifted, not just darkened and desaturated like in OP's.
Also the OP specifically asked for critique about his colors and people responded.... why are you so upset.

>>4542772

>>4542779
I'm not I really appreciate your criticism what made it come off that way?

>>4542748
>... and the crabs nitpicking non.exisant mistakes out of jealousy
everythign i don't like is crabbing. not everything has to be positive and not everything negative is meant to make you feel bad.

>>4542791
Because he is projecting

>>4542779
>>4542788
Bro, this is seriously your critique?
>it shouldn't be desaturated
I thought that, somehow, OP had misplaced his shadows but noo, It all comes down to stylistic choices and preferences. There are pictures that benefits from being desaturated, not everything has to pop pop pop.
This would be like, all proportions kept, saying that old anime BGs are desaturated and that we should had more layers

>>4542820
add more layers*

>>4542820
OP /literally/ asked about his saturation. How can you be this dumb?

>>4542820
>bro, its just my style bro
bro, kill yourself

>>4542840
That's literally it though
>Noooooooo where are the shiny colours??! MY BRAIN NEEDS MORE COLOURS AAAAAH

>>4542850
The principle of hue-shifting shadows still applies in your examples. It doesn't even have anything to do with saturation strictly. You are an idiot.

>>4542850
>>4542857
I'm glad we could all let out our autism now forget about personal ego cuckery, and tell me which of these is the way to go (I know very little reguarding hue shifting any resource to check out? and no clothes are not final.)

>>4542913
Third is best

>>4542913
Right "pops" more to the eye and is closer to the standards of modern ecchi art. In the end, it all depends what kind of mood you're trying to achieve. Left is desaturated and thus more pale but it's nothing jaring. I prefer the left version, the fact it's not 100% clean and shiny makes it more interesting to me

>>4540051
Who's the gal in the top right pic?

>>4542913
Not taking into account the unfinished attire in pic 1 and 2, I'd say pick any one. They all look good

>>4542980
Karin from epic seven

loomis

Will I make it one day?

>>4543232
If you learn about forms and anatomy more. You do know that eyes are made of eyeballs set in the skull, right? They're not stickers you just slap on to a face

>>4540589
great progress, what did you study?

Another dump of my style study, as I'm still working on and off on that MRG faces zip. Some of the original faces are really strange and were kind of difficult to parse. I'm not happy with most of them now that I look at them again, but they're all one-layer abominations so I use minimal construction. I did do something a little more serious using what I've picked up so far that I'm pretty happy with, however.

>>4539870
second from left to right

>>4539901
>professor oak.jpg

>>4543232
i like the style a lot, depends on your bodies and poses. eyes might be a little too big for my taste and don't match at all. i wouldn't put such a big shadow/black spot on the bottom of the far eye if the near one doesn't have it.

>>4543257
Thank you, I will do more facial structure/eye studies.

>>4543358
Thank you! You're right, I forgot to erase that bit.

>>4541323
Bump

>>4542913
collarbone and tits are wrong, realign them before you go further since this is decent. Bottom fabric folds need to be fixed as well. Lighting looks good

Strangely enough using anime for poses helps a lot with learning perspective, and giving sore heads.

>>4542666
>>4542913
>those collarbones
Lmao copyfags.

>>4544567
I know people shitpost you but I'm asking this genuinely:
Do you have some finished work? I'd like to see what you can do

>>4544567
Redline it, crab. I bet you can't because you don't know what a collarbone looks like.

>>4539913
based

>>4540051
source on the refs on the right?

>>4544567
Oh, look, it's copefag again.

>>4539773
Quick sketch for today

>>4544571
Nope. Nothing.

>>4544574
Redlining won't help you. If you dont understand how collarbones attach to the skeleton with your turd polishing, you never will.

dunno if i'm supposed to post this here or in /beg/ but here's my first serious attempt at digital art in a year or two. kawaii anime girls aren't exactly my comfort zone when it comes to drawing bodies so feel free to be as harsh as you need to be
>>4542913
>>4544574
i think what >>4544567's issue with the collarbones is that they almost look like they're curved instead of straight and interlocked with the shoulders. i think defining the middle part where the neck connects with them would also help them look a bit more believable

>>4544679
Do not talk to 4544567. He's a well known troll.

Oh no he's back

>>4544620
I still don't know how people can achieve that kind of messy yet ordely strokes on a screenless tablet. Mines always go to shit.

>>4544642
>Nope. Nothing.
Aren't you afraid you might never progress because you keep doing the same thing over and over? I only started to improve after I forced myself to leave my comfort zone.

>>4544620
You posted this before, fag.

>>4544660
You know how to color, but you need to practice figures, most importantly.

>>4544679
More fundies.

>>4544755
I'm improving my mind, it's something only I notice, and won't come out on my drawings every time. But I'm 100% sure I'm on the right path.

>>4544762
Alright, good luck then

>>4544732
Same. Is it really easier with a tablet with a screen though? I have one on the way and I am sure it will be easier to draw in general on it but I am not expecting it to make me a better artist right off the bat because I can see what I am drawing.

>>4544767
There's only a problem if your comfort zone is a bad one. You can leave your comfort zone and try to improve at another skill and obviously you will notice a swift improvement. It will make you feel happy and you will feel like you're improving faster. However skills only start off improving really fast, you have to practice regardless of how noticeable your improvements are, when you get used to it. It's all small gains from here.

Don't reply.

>>4544595
anatomy for sculptors

>>4544788
Reply to me to piss off the discordtranny.

>>4539773
Who did op pic?

>>4544809
Lessons on to draw manga for beniggers on the right side of the benis

>>4544732
Fix your calibration, the proportions are probably messed up. Screenless tablets are not a problem if you have them set up properly.

Should I pursue anim* art?

Pic related is my first attempt.

I never liked anime but I've always wanted to be a weeaboo

>>4544855
Not with that discord face.

Being a weeb is cringe anyway.

>>4544855
>I never liked anime but I've always wanted to be a weeaboo
What does this even mean, maybe you should stick to reddit

>>4544878
its called ironic weeb and you are right he should go back to redd*t

>>4544855
You should go back to tumblr

>>4544855
>I never liked anime
Leave

>>4542680
i feel threatened by this picture

>>4544848
>Screenless tablets are ok you just calibrated it wrong!
Hate this stupid meme

>>4544927
unless you can provide facts on how is wrong, that statement is right and not even the only true God of mankind Allah can't disprove it.

>>4544932
>>4537227

Art styles study, too bad every drawing i flip suddenly looks like shit.

>>4544941
wow is fucking nothing

>>4544927
I have a screenless tablet and it works for me well, as it does for many others with screenless tablets. Maybe you're just retarded.

>>4544948
pyw

>>4544944
Too early for artstyles. Go practice fundies while copying.

>>4544971
I use a chink tablet, and it just works.

>>4544986
As a chink tablet user I feel offended by your post. You're just giving ammo to the wacoom shills

>>4544620
Looks like weird tumblr/disney "anime" hybrid with a nonbinary snowflake character. Your faces are flat but so are a lot of other things in the image. There's no meaningful overlaps for the legs so they look like flat contour drawings. Way too overboard on detail that doesn't need to be there like the floor. The perspective/foreshortening on the legs/couch are completely wrong so it looks like the character's left leg is a stump that's a foot shorter than the other.

>>4544989
There's nothing wrong with my lines pal.

>>4545014
>There's no lines pal.
I honestly think you should request a refund. Looks like your pen pressure settings aren't working

>>4545014
Your lines are literally aids. You'll never make authentic anim* with lines like those.

Pic related is my second attempt at anim* and it's already years ahead of your anim* art. This is the power of the Wacom. My anim* is nearly identical to authentic japanese anim* and I don't even practice it.

>>4545123
You fucking owned that nerd. Epic win, bro!

>>4544875
>>4544878
>>4544907
>>4544912
Jealous crabs. This is only my third attempt at Anim* and already better at it than all of you. Go ahead and prove me wrong and post your anim* art.
Go ahead poor wittle cwabs! what are you waiting for!?

In just a few days i'll have already surpassed the greatest japanese anim* masters. Pokemon, DBZ, Naruto, all of the greatests anim*'s ever made will look like a cheap imitation of my work.

I can't believe how easy drawing anim* is.

Update: I've decided to become an Anim* manga artist. This is going to be the main character of my upcoming Anim* comic book. Her name is Shen-Yuki Myakuro. She's a japanese highschool student with big breasts. The story will take place in Japan and revolve around her having big boobs.

>>4539773
what brushes do all the cool pixiv artists use

>>4545171
Okay this is epic burn. Upboat+

>>4545123
>>4545171
>>4545206
Finish something you cheap imitation.

>>4545233
edit: thanks for the gold stranger!

>>4545240
How about you finish something doodle copefaggot?

Do you guys have any critique about this? Some things I could have done to make it better

>>4545266
Where's that water coming from?

>>4545297
The joke is that the scenery is actually completely made up and there's a guy pouring water on top, but I thought of this only to justify my last-minute design choices.
I might doodle it later

>>4545266 waist could use some structuring, shoulder looks a bit disjointed(?) and the boob could probably be a bit further down the armpit, consult image.
Also very confused how you could let that elbow be so square
Very nice lighting job, though your general use of a brush probably needs practice

>>4545321
Thank you anon. For the brush I wanted to aim for those "messy on purpose" type of rendering, but if it's not visible through the piece itself then it means I need more training to convey that. Cheers

>>4545240
Heres an original piece I did for my upcoming anim* comic book.

>>4545332
Quite based. I might as well mention, you mostly used this pose >>4544855 again, and in both pictures your rib cage/chest doesn't connect well enough.

>>4545359
>Quite based. I might as well mention, you mostly used this pose >>4544855 again, and in both pictures your rib cage/chest doesn't connect well enough.

>>4545377

>>4545379

This thread is fucking worthless

200 posts and not one of them good

lol the regulars in here are so mentally damaged

>>4545425
Tranny discord in the op, what did you expect

>>4539773
Does anyone here know the booru site with cosplay references?
>inb4 lol imagine the pose ngmi.

>>4545171
cringe

>>4545422
that depends on whether you take this thread seriously, or view it with a sort of morbid interest

>>4545515
it's a good example of what not to do at least

>they post their work
>it looks too western
copy more fags

>>4544855
>>4545123
>>4545171
>>4545206
>>4545332
I can't tell if you unironically think this looks good or not

>>4545539
But copying is bad! I need to develop my own style!

>>4545539
Art reflects the soul.
No amount of effort can overwrite what you are on the inside entirely.

>>4545543
>>4545495
Aww whats wong widdle cwabs? angwey cus you're not as good at drawing anim* as me?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Don't worry keep doing anim* studies for the next few years and maybe you'll reach my level. Meanwhile this is only my 4th anim* i've ever drew. Imagine how good i'll be in just a matter of weeks. By the time you poor little crablets reach my level i'll be directing my own anim* series on netflix. But don't let that get you down. After all if you're not born with TALENT or the ARTISTIC SPARK (like me) theres nothing you can do about it. So don't waste time thinking about it. It will only make you feel worse knowing no matter how hard you try you'll never be as good at anim* art as me. Just be happy that you got to share this thread with a future anim* master. It'll be a good story to tell your children 20 years from now when i'm making the most iconic anim* series ever invented.

HAHAHHAHAHAHA jk you're never gonna have kids. You're all gonna die sad little virgin boys HAHAHAHAH.

>>4545784

>>4545784
Looks pretty good to me. I don't think you need to linger here too long. You should hit some board's draw threads and make deliveries. On certain boards they are very hungry for people to make good /d/'s and I think you'd make some people's day. Your style seems anime'ish, but if you don't have someone in mind who you want to emulate, it'd be better to just develop your style freely and maybe along the way try to find what your looking for in others. Drawing isn't about doing better than others, it's about making what you want to make freely.
Also, fyi, the key to shitposting is putting less effort into your response than theirs. The way you seethed, I can taste the salt and i'm not even the trying to bait you.
>>4545266
I think the outlines are a bit thick and take away from the warm colors you're putting in. Looks great otherwise.
>>4544679
I think you should try getting more comfortable with your tools more than anything else. Your pen looks very jittery or the program is using a shit tool to make lines with. Either way it's something you can do while goofing off in the settings. Keep at it, it's not bad.
>>4544660
I like it, but I don't think the body and face match all that well. Maybe it's a stylization thing, but it's a bit off putting. The technique for coloring looks good though.
>>4544620
>Dem toe curls
It's the subtle things.
Good shit Anon.
>>4543232
Maybe, but you need to be more ambitious. Heads are cute, but you need more than a profile to make it. Be brave, Anon, you can do it.

I'm too depressed to finish the bottom

>>4546006
You did a good job on the face but I think it overall feels flat, especially the clothes. Add folds/ wrinkles/ form to the clothes and more variation to how the hair flows. but she cute.

>>4546012
Okay thanks a lot for your critic. I'll work a bit harder.

Just found out Manga Materials is on YT now.
https://youtu.be/9VHDwlfN2L8

>>4544822
bump

I'm probably gonna translate the first hitokaku book unless anyone's working on it already.

I'm always thinking, 'I want to start drawing again'.
Eh!? You used to draw but work got too busy so you stopped? Then let's start drawing. Let's start drawing again. It doesn't matter if you have no confidence because you haven't drawn in a while. Let's draw. Why not just start now? So let's draw. Let's remember the feeling of fun we had when we drew. The excitement when we drew something good, let's remember that thrill. That's right, it's also great putting on some nice music. Put on some of you're favourite music that calms you down.

Have you prepared a pencil and paper? Let's have some cake and a chocolate cornet. You say eating like that will make us fat like a pig? But eating and drinking and eating while you draw makes it fun! Have a sip of tea and let's have lots and lots of fun while we draw! So come on, let's start.

Talent has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Drawing isn't about talent but consistency. Keeping at it is the most important thing!

>>4546497
It'd probably be more convenient and organized to just copy/paste the text into the pic anon

>>4546533
I know I just pasted that page as an example.

>>4545903
>I think the outlines are a bit thick and take away from the warm colors you're putting in. Looks great otherwise.

Thank you. Some other anon have pointed out that the breasts were too high and stuff but none mentioned the linework.

>>4545784
looks western as fuck ahahaha

>>4546838
Is my art western piggu? I solely use japanese reference, so it'd be interesting to see if my inferior genes got in the way.

>>4546852
looks subhuman

>>4546852
your heads would look a lot better if you spelled out the cheek more. Good legs, the torso seems a bit too long in the rightmost one. Also make the chest puff some in the leftmost one, the 2nd rightmost body looks fine for the most part

>>4546852
>>4546861
Oh and for christ sake use a thicker line, others have pointed it out, but your lines look like you're drawing in gray because you're drawing on 1px.
I'd also recommend upping the scale of your drawing to 10000x14000 with 300dpi or there about, scaling it down to 20% when exporting as a .png. Allows some of the quicker lines to go unnoticed

>>4546868
>>4546861
Nah, he knows better than to follow your shit advice.

>>4546870
What if I say the Japanese do it?

This is the first time I've ever been in this general and my conclusion is that you are all really stupid.

>>4546934
why

>>4546961
Just look at the discord if you want a more detailed answer

>>4545903
>On certain boards they are very hungry for people to make good /d/'s and I think you'd make some people's day.
I do this on a regular basis just because I like /d/. At most you get 1 thank you and some (You)s and nothing else. People don't even bother to follow. Good thing fundies are always there waiting for me and I've learned little stuff here and there by finishing pieces.

>>4546861
>>4546868
Critiquing my broken anatomy, when I'm working on improving that anatomy is kinda pointless. But the advice about lines is useful for the future though.

>>4546934
Have you seen the artwork here? No shit.

>>4546990
Are you though? Are you working on improving? Because I honestly don't think so.

You should get a tripcode so I can filter your dumb ass :)

>>4546998
pyw

>>4547006
Awww, did I huwt the baby's feewings? UwU I'm sowwies~ Couwdnt handwe a widdle cwiticism huh?

OwO Maybe you belong in DeviantArt rather than posting on this critique board full of nasty meanies!

>>4547012
Nice projection. I only want to see if your opinion is trusted, but since you just confirmed you're screenshot poster I can disregard your opinion. Good luck with drawing the same pose over and over.

>>4546990
>Critiquing my broken anatomy, when I'm working on improving that anatomy is kinda pointless
At the same time, just saying that it doesn't pass as anime isn't very constructive if I don't say why

>>4547020
Lol keep being bad at art because you refuse to do studies and stick to blindly noodling your way through it.

Also I don't know what my skill level has to do with wanting to be able to filter your dumb ass out but ok buddy. Stay in your containment thread so I can filter you that way.

>>4546971
discord fags opinion disregarded

>>4546497
Yes please thank you. I'm studying that book and that would be God sent.

Is there a torrent or mega file for the mangamaterials pdf?

I give reddit gold.

>>4546981
>At most you get 1 thank you and some (You)s and nothing else.
It depends on the board. Some are too fast and some are too slow, but I think you have potential to really shine in some drawthreads.

>>4547267
I'm talking about /d/ drawthread specifically as its the only one I frequent. Doesn't help that some retard made 2 threads in a shitty attempt to promote himself so now request delivery is all over the place.

>>4547301
Ahhh, sorry, I never meant to imply /d/ the board but rather meant that usually drawfags will respond to people who requesting using /r/ and respond with the delivery using /d/. I never frequent /d/ all that much, so i have no experience with their drawthreads, but I know of other boards where they do love a good drawfags. Actually drawthreads are great for getting requests, but it's actually very nice to go skipping from thread to thread and if you think of something nice draw it for the thread. Something like going to a tomboy thread on /a/ and some Anon mentions how awesome brown, milf tomboys are and then you drop a drawing of a brown milf tomboy for him. Doing that sort of thing will get you (you)'s too.

>>4545903
>Looks pretty good to me. I don't think you need to linger here too long. You should hit some board's draw threads and make deliveries. On certain boards they are very hungry for people to make good /d/'s and I think you'd make some people's day. Your style seems anime'ish, but if you don't have someone in mind who you want to emulate, it'd be better to just develop your style freely and maybe along the way try to find what your looking for in others. Drawing isn't about doing better than others, it's about making what you want to make freely.
>Also, fyi, the key to shitposting is putting less effort into your response than theirs. The way you seethed, I can taste the salt and i'm not even the trying to bait you.
HAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO
you think I'm seething? HAHAHAHA
Yeah bro, I'm absolutely fuming right now LMAO. You want me to go to another board? aww whats wrong? Does me being better than you make you sad? Pic related mfw

HAHAHA LMAO this is only my 5th anim* drawing and I'm already better than anim* art than everyone here. Is that why you want me to leave poor wittle cwabby-patty?

hmm?

Or maybe you want me to go there so you can get a free commission from me. LMAO bro, if you want a free commission all you had to do was ask LMAO.

>>4547020
>Good luck with drawing the same pose over and over.
Aww poor widdle baby cwab thought he was talking to me. Thanks though. i'll work on redrawing the same pose over and over. Meanwhile you can't even draw one pose LMAO like wtf even is this shit >>4546990
Is that supposed to be anim*. Shit couldn't even pass for western anim* imitation. Like bro wtf are you even doing LMAO. You expect by drawing a bunch of shitty gestural scribbles that one day you'll be able to make actual anim* art? LMAO. You'll learn NOTHING doing this you FOOL!!! HAHAHAHA
Maybe you'll get better at drawing scribbles at the very least. Meanwhile pic related is only my 5th attempt at drawing anim* art.

>>4547365
lol k

>>4547365
I can't take the opinions of people seriously when their fundies are inferior.

HOLY SHIT GUYS LOOK AT THIS!!

i knew it, this guy is gains goblin look at the small skull, shark sized jaw and big eyes they are the same.

you have been trolled by gains goblin unless you post

SHU SHU GAINS GOBLIN ITT:

shu shu gains goblin

>>4547409
His proportions are fine. he just didnt add volume to the hair. Wish he would post some finished work. Based on what hes posted he honestly has potential.

>>4547403
>I can't take the opinions of people seriously when their fundies are inferior.

>>4547432
>Based on what hes posted he honestly has potential.
Please /asg/, stop falling for polished turds.

>>4547437
pyw

Oh wait you did and it's shit.

>>4545206
cool story, bro

>>4545014
nice

>>4547444
>pyw
>Oh wait you did and it's shit.

>>4545266
The viewer's eyes are around the horizon line, so this means that her right boob should be a bit lower than her left (especially with her left hand stretching like that).
Viewer's eyes are right below the boobs but her head is drawn as if the viewer's eyes are at the same as her eye level.
Right shoulder is fucked up.
Also, the clouds do not help with perspective of the overall piece. If you zoom out, you will feel like she's sitting in front of a flat painting, because the clouds have the same values and size everywhere.

holy fuck this thread got surreal

>>4547481
This is what happens when people inherently think a creative field should be a contest and two of them with inflated egos want to bait each other

>>4547493
And they are not even that good.
Why is it always mediocre (not nec. bad) people who are the most vocal?

>>4547497
Dunning–Kruger effect

Lads, how did ya'll start to learn how to draw anime? Aside from the art fundamentals, where do i begin studying how to draw tiddy?

why not get a anime model pose and trace it /thread

>>4547509
By putting aside anime for a moment and drawing from life and then redrawing the reference into an amawu.

>>4547509
hitokaku is the best even over loomis.

>>4547526

But how do i do the latter part? What rules are there for amawu

>>4547532
What the name for the book?

>>4547541
dunno it's in japanese. but they are in the op. Seichi nakamura is the author

>>4547497
>And they are not even that good.
pyw crab

>>4547557
I can't find it anon :c

>>4547534
No rules.

This gaijin made it into Makoto Shinkai's works as a background artist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGqnNxDnX6I
Are you gonna make it?

>>4547566

It's in the mega. Japanese books>others.

Seich nakamura. Pic related.

>>4547580
Calm down anon,I don't want to live in Japan, I just like the syle.

>>4547586
>https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc
Danke

>>4547562
Posted this on /ic/ 7 years ago.

>>4547619
Garbage, ngmi.

>>4547619
The background is really well done. But it's clear you painted it *after* drawing reimu because you thought that it'd be better than letting her standing around nothing. She looks very awkward here

>>4547630
Yeah I was practicing gesture and coloring, then I kinda threw the background in randomly so they don't match at all.

>>4547619
That's really nice Anon, I like it a lot.

>>4547639
Do you have some recent artworks you've done? I want to see how good you are now, I'm in love with those trees

>>4547626
7 years ago and he was alread better than you. Yikes.

>>4547619
You call this anim* ? lmao fucking stupid ass fucking idiot peice of shit

>>4547626
Cope more, copefag. lmao

>>4547630
>>4547641
Thanks. I'm working on something, will post it once it's done.

>>4547677
Cool!

>>4547659
>anim*
what is anim*? why do you keep saying that? genuinely curious

>>4547709
You can't be serious...

>>4540899
look at real women and tits of all sizes. there's a plane change around the 3rd rib from breast to chest/ribcage which usually catches highlights because it's flat, pic related shows what i mean sorta. they don't look like they're attached to the collarbone. and the pec/breast doesn't attach like in the original posters image which is just wrong, the pec only attaches for the first half to two thirds of the collarbone and then you get the infraclavicular fossa. the anatomy for sculptors book isn't the best reference to learn from because it shows a wireframe like you're building a 3d model for sculpting and not what's really happening. so you get some artifacts that don't match up to real life but work for 3d modeling.

>>4544822
>>4546496
read the filename, retard

>>4545487
sankaku complex?

accepting any criticism but i'm mostly interested in the boobs, hand and how to make my style more interesting/appealing
>>4545903
>I think you should try getting more comfortable with your tools more than anything else.
i drew the sketch with a touchpad before doing the lineart with the curve tool. i should probably get a tablet but i'm still on the fence on whether or not i want to actually continue doing digital art or stick to what i feel comfortable with
>>4544762
which fundies in particular?

>>4547964
Omg who's this dude? What book is it?

>>4547989
Too stiff, you need to gesture draw or figure draw.

Any mileage would do a lot for you. Especially getting used to the tablet. You have everything else going well.

>>4545210
bumpers

>>4548122
The classic round brush.

>>4545240
chicken scratch

>>4548013
>>4548201
Loomis.

>>4545210
ngmi

>>4546852
where are you from?

>>4543264
hey, sorry for the late reply. i remember starting off with loomis to get basic proportions and construction down. i moved on to hogarth and pin2d, but i can't say that i recommend either, save for their lessons on drapery. watched a good chunk of proko's anatomy videos. as much as this board likes to shit on him (which i personally think is unjustified), he's a really good resource. though, i saw the biggest gains when i bought bridgman's 5th ed. i never see any conversation about it on this board. it's dense, but the info is gold. the book takes a deep dive into just about everything regarding anatomy. definitely an underrated gem.
but but but, what resources you choose to study shouldn't be your main concern. how you study them should.
now i don't mean 'draw everyday', that's a given. what i do mean is to think about what you're taking in. 'why did does this look right?", 'how would x draw this?', 'what steps did they take to achieve this?', that sorta stuff.

>>4548511
lmao he's been drawing the exact same floating dolls for 1 year
loomis won't help anyone this lost

how do I know where to put the highlights in the eyes?
yes I know its shit overall, highlights just feel the "most" shit right now

>>4548770
Why do people do this thing where they place guidelines for the face then don't follow them? Just why?

>>4548013
kk. any suggestions on how i could've made this pose in particular less stiff? i feel like i could've done a lot more with the hand and fingers in particular
>>4548770
same as the light source. feel free to add ones in the opposite end like how you'd lighten the very end of a dark object but as long as it makes sense you could get away with any style or shape

Probably need 20 more hours to finish but I'm too tired.

>>4548569
I'll keep an eye out for Bridgmans compilation book, it looks very dense and detailed which is a nice way to refine a solid base. Been going through Hustons recently before I jump into Hamptons. Will definitely check it out after that. Thanks.

>>4548207
lol

>>4548799
Go draw, go draw the same thing till you understand why your pose doesn't work. Don't become an /asg/ and expect words to help you improve.

>>4548847
Avoid making heads from below.

>>4548847
Chin shouldn't be that high. Face is a bit squashed, it should be thinner, not that wide. Ear is misplaced.
Left arm is bigger than right arm.
Left leg is a bit stiff. I would consider pushing the knee forward a bit, and bend the boot backward (with respect to her body).

>>4548677
I have improved 1000% for the past 300 days and that guy still making the same chicken scratches. I will not pmw

>>4549959
Okay I never believed you anyway. Only bad artists are ashamed of their.

>>4549993
art

this is shit is hard, my head mappings all look like shit, any advice on how to figure out the first big oval? i feel like i always making it too big, or too small, or the wrong shape

>>4550028
jesus chirst learn the anatomy of the head then you can think about mapping.....ugh.

>>4550150
ok i will
any resources not on the sticky or the pastebin you'd recommend for that

>>4549218
>Go draw, go draw the same thing till you understand why your pose doesn't work. Don't become an /asg/ and expect words to help you improve.
so you're talking out of your ass, got it. next time don't even bother (You)ing me

>>4550196
based newfag

>>4550160
Vipplu courses in the video thread

>>4550256
thank you ill check it out