/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Some ground rules to start this thread and the next /beg/ threads off:

>No rules lol
/int/s please respond
/beg/inner posting is encouraged.
Every point of view is valid even if you were a day into art.
You MUST give advice and/or critique other people's work in order to have healthy interactions with each other so we all can make it.

>Before you post your work
1. It's true that the sticky is a bit outdated and most people don't care for reading it or even do the excerise of the upside down Stravinsky so if that is your case you've come to the right place,
people in here is waiting for you to post your work and give you proper advice. In that light, replies such as "grind more fundamentals" are strongly discouraged since it doesn't help anybody to get better.
We DON'T expect you to know what the general fundamentals are (gesture, anatomy, perspective, drapery, etc.), and we DON'T expect you to know where you can find resources to practice these subjects.
We are happy to provide you those tools in this thread.

2. DO POST your 5 minute sketches that you didn't put much thought into. It doesn't really matter if you're asking for a SPECIFIC advice on a specific subject. You might as well post no text whatsoever along with your work.
If you post a doodle and ask "where did i go wrong" or "how should I continue from here", meme replies such as "Loomis" are strongly discouraged, we don't make fun of one and other here.

Follow these simple rules or maybe not but always remember to be nice to /beg/s and the people giving advice at all times.

im stuck and don’t know exactly what to do from here any advice?

>>4534455
Don't post other people's artwork, fuckhead.

Spent time on this

any critique in this?

>>4534461
its good but u should try to add value on the body and walls, add some depth to the whole thing

>>4534500
its good but the proportions of his left arm is off. also could add some more detail in the face

this is mine im ok with harshness

Is it a good idea to just try and take panels I like from my favorite manga and try to redraw them?

Is that a bad way to learn?

>>4534507
I agree, but where on the body ? I did shade it but I think I could have used darker colours

>>4534525
There is no such thing as a bad way to learn when you atleast pick up a pen and draw.
Just draw, at your own pace

I tried asking last thread, but I just want to draw anime girls, not body builders. Can I skip the majority of anatomy mainly the muscles?
I don't see the point on wasting time learning things I won't need.

Can anyone upload "the complete guide to anatomy for artists & illustrators " by bammes
to another server?
>https://www68.zippyshare.com/v/Lf0PlSvr/file.html
This link works but Zippyshare is blocked in several countries, thank you brehs

>>4534553
No, but you can be less autistic about memorizing them by name.

any tips on how to eye the loomis head proportions? like the 1/3rd lines? feels like im always off
p-please reply

>>4534500
The leg on our left is really confused. It looks like the thigh is almost parallel to the viewer but the lower leg and foot are at a different angle.

>>4534553
Learn to construct anime girls out of simple shapes first and then when you're good at that, decide if you need to learn more anatomy.

Should I buy this figure if I want to draw fanart of this character?

Is there a cutoff age where you absolutely shouldn't bother wasting time learning to draw? I've always wanted to but certain unfortunate shit has happened in my life when I was young that made it impossible to for years but I'm in a decent spot to start trying now in my late twenties. Is that just too fucking old to learn something as intricate as this? Is it something you have to pick up young or is it just a case by case thing and how much you're willing to put in the practice?

>>4534512
Honestly I'm into it. Might be good to get some varied weight to your lines, especially since you have a bold style you could go pretty heavy with it. Your colour choice isn't bad but also isn't helping the image much imo, some more colour theory applied to it could make it pop even more.

>>4534553
You only have to learn the placement, and the rough shape. This will help you to understand what you're drawing when using reference, which I'll assume to be skinny girls. This shouldn't take more than a couple of days. And if you forget something you can go reference the anatomy book.

>>4534461
Thanks, I won't sleep tonight.

>>4534596
That is not too late. Don't be pathetic.

>>4534596
If you've always wanted to and you like the idea of it just do it bro, have fun with it. Sure, it's never going to be as easy to learn new things as when you were a child but if you like it and you don't mind putting in some work to get better, go for it!

advice please, tips, anything

>>4534605
thx dude

>>4534530
like the bicep and under the neck and on the abdomen for example. the drawing of sisyphus on the wall has more definition than the main object.

>>4534596
Many of the artists from here who actually made it picked it up in their late 20s. like based Aztodio.

>>4534637
you're right thank you

>>4534422
How do I get into studying?
i want to start doing studies but i dont know how to start
and drawing after looking up stock images is really weird to me


reposting bc no one responded

>>4534624
Did you draw that grid?
Why isn't it in perspective?

Reminder if your goal is to draw naked japanese characters then you should end yourself

>>4534685
So naked western characters are ok?

feedback on my construction

I drew a dwarf

Rip into it /beg/ [spoiler] but also tell me what I got right

Any critique appreciated

>>4534685
Don't worry, I'll draw naked animals instead

>>4534712
Features are misaligned

>>4534621
>>4534623
It's just daunting seeing zoomers that are already getting hired for pro shit while a decade younger than me. I guess those are outliers though like any profession.

>>4534644
Thats reassuring. Guess I'll start with the essentials before I start drawing the type of stuff I've wanted to my whole life. At least I can say I tried if I'm horrible.

I drew a dwarf

Rip into it /beg/ [spoiler] but also tell me what I got right

>Reposted better image size

>>4534732
helmet looks like it's floating above the head, maybe draw a wall behind your character to justify the tilting of the helmet upwards, and finish the guy's skull

>>4534759
yeah i had a hard time with the helmet. thanks

>>4534426
Thanks arnie

>>4534740
How can one person spend over a year here and have no notable improvement.

>>4534767
Who is he?

Something just feels "off" about this, but I can't pinpoint it, and I wanna know what I can do to make it feel less flat and more dynamic?

>>4534735
You don't really want to compare yourself to anyone else because it's guaranteed to get you down and put you off. My much younger sister is so much better at art than me that it made me never want to draw again (as pathetic as that sounds).
Once I realized I should be comparing what I do now to what I did then, rather than what someone else can to compared to what I can do, it encouraged me to continue because you can see the improvement. Whenever you see improvement it automatically encourages you to continue doing what you're doing.
It's also important to remember that, while there are people who are naturally better at some things that others, a lot of things people are good at never came naturally to them. It came after a lot of hard work and dedication to the craft, whatever it is, itself.
I have faith in you. We're all gonna make it.

>>4534774
Just some retard that posts his shitty art and comic here. He asks for advice all the time but never improves or gets better. I recognize the art style.

>>4534525
I don't think it is not the most time efficient way but it should work.

>>4534790
The linework emphasizes the outlines too much which flattens the whole thing. Try working with a brush without size variation.

>>4534740
Nothing remarkable. The hatching doesn't read well at all.

>>4534587
why would you?

>>4534800
So he can know what she looks like under the skirt.

>>4534800
I'm bad at poses so I thought if I have the figure for reference it would help me.

>>4534801
d...does it look "real" under it?

>>4534808

I don't know if those figures work for this. They look like they have a very limited range of motion and they don't seems to hold the pose very well and the clothes might get in the way. But I never handled this kind of figures.

>>4534798
I tried to fallow people's advice of making sure the hatching fallows the form of the figure well, which is what I tried to do at least. I guess it didn't turn out well. I tried puting some stuff on the muscles to give it a sense of curve but I think it still looks flat.

How should I improve it. I'm going to redraw it with whatever advice I get.

>practice gestures
>hallucinating contour lines over everything i see

>>4534822
It's from the Medicos line. Same people that do all the Jojo figures, which I hear has really good movement and articulation.

>>4534740
>>4534767
If you've really been at this level for over a year unironically give up. Learn to code or something.

>>4534827
I think studying anatomy would help you a lot. Google Greg Capullo's Krash Course if you want to learn how to draw muscular arms and stuff like that

>>4534808
Thanks anon, so basically don't use line weight?

>>4534827
Go look at how your favorite artists do it and imitate them. It's the only way. If you don't have favorite artists then get some taste first.

>>4534836
>unironically give up
I'm not that guy, but how can people be this cruel? Maybe that guy simply hasn't practiced correctly. He needs to learn anatomy, which is something that anyone can do with enough effort.

>>4534831
if you money to spare and are whiling to take the risk, why not?!
Worst can happen is you to end up with a cute useless doll.

>>4534790
it's flat because goku is drawn as if he was poorly painted onto a wall.

the facial features aren't properly wrapped around his head.

th anatomy is broken and stuff.

the only thing that isn't fundamentally very broken is his power pole on his back. the ellipses showcase depth. the difference between the pole and everything else also exposes how bad the rest is.

basically, the draftsmanship is very poor. work on fundamentals like anatomy, perspective and figure drawing. even if you're going for something stylized liked dragonball, look at toriyama's work, it's fundamentally sound, all his figures look like they exist in 3d space.

pic related is an old goku doodle i did. Is it great? nope. Is it exactly the same level of stylization you going for? nope but I don't think it's as flat as your image.

>>4534525
Definitely. Learn from the masters and start borrowing ideas

>>4534849
yeah, also saying one year is meaningless, the only thing that matters is how many hours he put in during that year which nobody knows.

>>4534459
its my artwork and im flattered

>>4534832
Perspective is 3/4 but eyes and mouth aren't, that's why it doesn't look right. You need to draw all the facial features in perspective

>>4534854
Ah thank you so much! If you were to draw kid goku, with anatomy and perspective in mind, how would you go about it? Given his insane stylization, I'm assuming his cartoon anatomy is pretty crazy, or is it just simple shapes like normal anatomy?

>>4534867
Why are you asking such a dumb question here, fisher?

>>4534876
Here's an image by Toriyama. Both the proportions of adult and kid goku are not far off from the proportions you'd find in a Loomis book. Most of his stylization is in the face but even so, the features are drawn as if they fit inside an actual skull, they have perspective etc.

Study real anatomy, real figures. Do that for a couple hundred hours and you should see a big improvement when going back to more stylized stuff.

>>4534886
Gotcha, thanks so much again. Time to get on the anatomy grind

heres some other shit i did i think i hate evetything about it idk

and a sketch

>>4534422
>sorry if wrong thread

Is this book actually worth reading and learning from? I got it last christmas and just found it again

color study from cloud

took about an hour

???????

>>4534461
>>4534512
>>4534899
>>4534899
Not /beg/

>>4534461
>>4534512
>>4534896
>>4534899
Not /beg/

>>4534937
>It has color on it so it must not be /beg/
Genius

>>4534937

>>4534426
>You MUST give advice and/or critique other people's work in order to have healthy interactions with each other so we all can make it.
Nice positive message overall, but this is dumb as fuck. If you are actually /beg/ just tell people what you like about their art, don't pollute the actual crit. Fucking autists

Any tips for me before I finish this?

Hi i'm new to art in general and am using ms paint with a mouse
I just made this and want to ask if there's anything I can improve on in this piece before i get to colouring?

>>4534983
if you are using paint and mouse you're better off just using pencil and paper

your drawing looks nice

>>4534988
oh ok
thank you i will try go to the store and buy a book.

>>4534983
The clothes/armor? looks flat, but you ooze talent if you're new.

>>4534948
Yikes

Working on machinery

>>4534567
Use your pencil, finger or other stuff to measure, you dont need to follow the 1/3rd and other proportion rules perfectly, because then you will always make perfect faces, and those are boring.
Its small changes to the proportions, that makes a face more human and believable, also more interesting.
Don't go full autist when dealing with them, if by glancing they seem alright, you shouldnt be bothered with it.

Or use a ruler and a compass

>>4534461
Big titty Emily grey?

i know that you are supposed to grind anatomy, perspective and all the good stuff first, nonetheless i draw everyday even is atrocities come out.
so this is a rough sketch, for now
its supposed to be a witch in a light birds eye view, im just looking for some tips regarding this sketch before i start properly working with it.

>>4535022
>im just looking for some tips regarding this sketch
Start over

alright im trying to fix some proportions on an old drawing
what is wrong with it? I'm finding it incredibly hard to convey the legs being on top of each other while seated like that. I'll try drawing sketch lines of the body on top

I wish I could draw clothes

I wish I could draw clothes

critiques?

>>4535074
why does her crotch look like it's trying to escape?

Heres some anime shit I did last year pls comment

>>4535079
idk imma try fix it

This is pretty much the best model drawing I can do in under 20 minutes. I see things off about it. The right bicep goes into the shoulder, the area under the right knee has a gap below it, the left upper thigh sticks out to far, and obviously the hands, feet and head are place holders. What should I specifically try to grind to improve? Is the base anatomy good enough to start focusing on hands, feet or face? Is the gesture to stiff? What would be the most effective thing to grind for long term improvement?

finnished it, how does it look?

>>4535079
does this look any better?

How do I go from sketch to lineart without sucking the soul right out of my art?

>>4535095
From that angle and position you shouldn't see the gash at all.

But bonus points for tanlines.

>>4535095
still looks like its trying to leave her body
it shouldn't be so close to the foreground and the right leg should partially obscure it at that angle
try to imagine where her butt is sitting and see if that makes any sense as it is right now

>>4535095
based brazilian pedo

>>4535109
yes

>>4535100
like this..?

>>4535082
torso is foreshortened (i think, because of the way the pecs look) but arms are not, not sure if we are looking at goku from the front or from below

if from below, neck shouldnt look that long when hes looking down

pec muscle tie in is wrong, it should be united to the front deltoid as one big mass, pic related. Pecs must attach to the arms

>>4535119

ty anon

>>4535121
no problem, it's a nice drawing

>>4535116
Kinda like this. Wanna be friends btw?

>>4535133
sure

>>4535133
how do you make these soft shapes holy fuck

any critique welcome

I'm not very good at it

>>4535157
nice

>>4535144
Yaay!

>>4535150
Turn the stabilizer up. Not even joking.

WIP
What fuckups can you find here

critique my 100 gestures

>>4535096
Stop asking questions about your drawings when you haven't posted a drawing

>>4535184
Needs lines that I can fucking see

where is feets anon ?

>>4535182
cankles and feet are unequal, left foot is really stubby

but maybe you did this on purpose since shes a monster?

>>4535177
>>4535133
in which other ways would you improve the drawing? i want know what did i do wrong

>>4535201
>what did i do wrong
anatomy

>>4535201
I don't think there's anything salvageable about it. You'd have to change everything.
I don't think critique is what you need at this stage. Just keep drawing and focus on improving your visual library. Once you do it'll be way easier for you to spot what you did wrong.

>>4535210
okay

Someone please help me out. I'm lost and I just wanna get better with rendering.
This is a value study I just finished, ended up spending a bit over an hour on it.
I used CSP and the transparent watercolor brush and it's probably the extent of my rendering abilities right now.
I want to be able to do so much more, but I just feel like I'm only making mistakes when I attempt to do anything other than a hard round and simple 2-3-tone artwork.
I can't render my work the way I want to and that goal fuels me to keep going, but like I said I'm lost and aimless with my efforts and I've been going in circles not making any meaningful progress for what feels like weeks now.
I have no idea what I'm supposed to do to get to where I want to be.

>>4535208
but how it would look like if drawed right?

>>4535214
Biggest mistake there was not using a black background. It fucked with your perception of values.

>>4535215
Very sexy

>>4535214
background is not just some fill object cut out is put on top of. It is environment object is inside

>>4535217
>>4535222
Note taken.
Also do you guys have anything to help me out with my brushwork?
I'm really concerned about how messy the edges of the strokes look, and I feel like I took way too many and too long to get that result.
I often ended up going back over past strokes a ton, and really struggled to get some of those soft edges in there and sometimes it felt like a stroke that landed in a way I liked happened due to a bit of luck.
I expect that as I continue to practice some of these things will become refined over time, but if there's anything else that could help me out here I'd be glad to know.

>>4535227
As an exercise, turn up the opacity of the brush, a lot, and then block out groups of values. Only then you can begin to blend and add intermediary values.

>>4535234
Thanks, I'll try it out

>>4535039
Any critiques? Besides the feet

this is my most recent drawing. ik the forehead is a bit big
critiques encouraged

>>4535184
>>4535190
this better?

>>4535247
thighs dont have that shape, should be thicker around the knee, look up bodybuillder's legs

just study anatomy in general, things don't have the shape that you gave them. Look at sprinters, gymnasts, athletes like that

i am suppose to think of clothing as planes and tubes? also does she look extremely loli, i tried to avoid that

>>4535264
yikes

>>4535269
yikes what? i know it looks bad

>>4535255
>Mfw hovering over this before going to bed.
Decrease the brightness and increase contrast, to make it easier on the eyes and increase visibility of the lines.
As far as the gestures are concerned you're on the right track.

>>4535264
Koishi doesn't have big boobs. Also, resize your drawing.

>>4535269
>>4535277
Both of you quit being little faggot cucks

If you really did like 2hu and Koishi you would know theyre fucking amazing in every form
And as far as I'm concerned our friends drawing is pretty fucking nice

>>4535273
you and>>4535039 this guy are literally at the same level, did you guys dropped school, how did you fail so bad at something so simple in terms of learning, like you didn't even bother to check some images on google or look up some doujins and see how bad is your drawing.

i feel like you guys just want to share your drawings rather than actually wanting to be better at drawing, this is expected from day 0 drawfags

>>4535282
>And as far as I'm concerned our friends drawing is pretty fucking nice

this is what gatekeeping and crabs actually look like

kek is this graykun? Looks like he finally took loomispill

>>4535286
How the fuck am i gatekeeping
Dumb nigger

>>4535255
Looks good, very fluid

>>4535252
Try thinking of the hair more as ribbons than a mess of squiggles. Focus on the form and breaking it up into chunks.

Starting on this, gotta clean up the linework then moving to coloring but would like to fix any issues before I do that. Would really appreciate any crits.

>>4535286
I didnt use a reference, i was going to refer back to it after the sketch was done and refine it, and i am not very good at learning, at least i am trying

>>4535302
okay i will take your contrarian shitpost serious, nice? nice for you maybe, you didn't explain anything about what's good in his work, his work it's been the same for months , he always gets told the same thing that he needs to study anatomy but nah, little faggots like you like to shit those compliments and make them think that his drawings weren't that bad and here we are staring at the same mistakes from months ago

this shits always happens look at construct anon, gains goblin, asukafag this is what sugar coating makes, and you are the problem spouting shit like that, you are a crab.

i can't get this damned pose right, help
where do the feet even go

>>4535319

Hips look wrong, are you working from a reference?

>>4535309
maybe the guy in the background's left upper arm is at weird angle with the forearm, but overall I think it looks good

>>4535321
no reference
should the hips be lower? I was trying to go for something like the left pose on pic related. Just found the image quickly sorry its shit.

>>4535314
>why
isnt there meme "to do this you first master this"
dude have very boring pictures of bored people. and juxtaposed with cheerful feeling form picture and unhappy about world but slap watermarks all over the place

>>4535319
Study more anatomy, then try again.

>>4535321
Anon you do know having a reference for what that guy is drawing is illegal right

>>4535347
Where kid photos are illegal ?

like 2 minutes of google will give you that

>>4535377
MODS

this one is more like that
>>4535382
Do I need to delete it?

>>4535377

>>4535391
Why

What good exercises are there to train my brain into seeing values and shapes instead of lines/contours while I'm panting?

>>4535347
lascivious exhibition of the genital or anal area are the key words...

>>4535373
Nowhere but clueless people's minds, images depicting underage nudity aren't illegal (to possess) in and of themselves either, unless there's a clear focus on the genital or anal area which would make the image lascivious/pornographic (unless you're a doctor and the image is for medical purposes) thus being classified as CP. Production and distribution (including online uploading) of such images (even if not meeting CP criteria) is another story as even if not pornographic, they could be deemed exploitative and it gets more complicated on this issue.

t. studied sex laws/cybercrime

Noce

Trying to ascend from /beg/

How do i know when the ulna and radius are supernated or pronated?
I honestly cannot tell without doing the pose myself.

>>4535377
>>4535377
Why was this deleted? It wasn't porn

>>4535438
I deleted it myself because americans was freaking out and I found better picture

>>4535437
Biceps tell you the pronation of the arm, thumbs tell you the pronation of the hand. That's all the landmarks you need.

>>4535214
You can't render if you can't draw.

>>4535443
thanks

>>4535184
>>4535255
At least put some effort in you lazy fuck.

>>4535200
I'm just not all that interested in feet so I didn't examine them
Her right foot does seem thinner than her left, I'll try to fix that
But her ankles aren't too thick are they?

I'm trying to learn arm muslces but it's too complicated, I tried hampton then proko.

Been reading KTD, This is my second attempt at the eye exercise.. very lop sided to the reference.. other than that How did I do?

>>4535508
3rd Row eye is the Ref.

>>4535509
This is my first attempt from about a month or two ago.. I ditched art for a bit but I've returned recently.

testing to see how dark the values look since i fucking never get this right

>>4535515
god damnit

>>4535508
I cant draw faces but what noticed is things seems misaligned, I do not know what exercise is about but I suppose you need to pay attention to alignment of stuff. If just shapes - eye on the left do not reads well, Like I know it's eye but shape is off. eye in the right looks like spherical eye

>>4534422
I was practicing last night bros and I had the weirdest feeling in my head as this thing started coming together. it was like all of a sudden I realized that the human body has actual planes to it, that's what makes us three dimensional objects. thats what my anatomy teacher meat when she was talking about "lateral" and "dorsal" and stuff lol.

I looked up anatomy refs so I could get some torso and arm muscles. it was a really weird feeling, there was this really intense pressure in my brain. I can't believe how simple layering these muscles together were. i know how i have a long way to go, the shapes are super off and I know that its not proportionate. there's no vanishing line or whatever to keep it in proper view.

but I'm weirdly proud of this. I know its bad but this shitty piece is a really big deal for me because now its like I can really "see" the 3dness of the body.

i don't have the vocabulary for this i'm sorry for being a retard. I'm working on another practice drawing that I'll post in a minute.

>>4535532
this is the ref that I've been doing for the past hour. I started off with the blue but i went over it in another layer with the orange layer to try and correct it.
i downloaded the loomis book so i guess i should start that now huh

one more test

>>4535536
the penis is waaay too far up on your drawing

>>4535537
arethe values on this readable given the evening setting? i can't tell i might just start over from the drawing stage and paint it completely differently

>>4535540
for sure i didn't realize it needs to be much lower down until i posted it lol
thats what i get for being a retard tho

>>4535536
Penis should have been a lot longer imo. I'm not certain what type of construction you used in this or if you just copied the naked man

>>4535546
it's ok, you're still gmi

Who else likes to conduct portrait studies with their mum?

Just finished this one, made for an online fanart competition. I'm still not sure what color to use for the background, I'm trying to make the scene more dramatic.

>>4535564

>>4535551
i just tried to recreate the guy, I didn't use any particular construction. just started from the head down. but like i said before i'm retarded

>>4535555
thanks anon...

Colors and angles on this laptop is awful so no idea how it will appear to you. But nice dinos you have

>>4535577
soul

>>4535567
Why would you be retarded? I think you just need a better understanding on the shapes of the body. This page is from Steve Huston's figure drawing where he talks about gesture, I'd suggest you to check out that book if you don't know how to construct or I'm pretty sure there are many more tutorials on youtube about how to recreate gesture.

still practicing high and low 3/4

>>4535591
o-oh...
i guess i'm calling myself that because i don't want to be a prick in the critique thread
people take some time to look at what you make when they don't have to so it seems to me that one should be upfront about one's deficiencies

i've tried using stick figures in the past but i've never understood how to put them together or how to mold body shapes out of them. eventually i got tired of it and just started trying to copy what i saw.

thank you for the recommendation on Steve Huston's book, I'll see where I can find it. i'll also see what the online tutorials say.about gesture and construction. those boxes make more sense than using stick lines.

>>4535564
Not /beg/

>>4535537
by the way If I was trying to pull off scene with some specific lighting I would look for some photos that convey similar feel. It will give much better idea what is going on with colors and give some guide on contrast and values. and maybe give some ideas.
It's not like I have good ability myself but it is general enough advice so it do not matter.

Did this negative space drawing. I know the placing is slightly off but I'm still happy with how it turned out.

Are there any reasonably accessible 'analog' resources for refs of the human figure?
I tend to be more distracted when using the computer.
Is it worth it to just go through the relatively small selection in the artbooks i have or is it really necessary to go online and try new poses each time?

>>4535682
Just print them off?

>>4535700
Don't have a printer. I mean, are there any recommended books?

>>4535706
there are some japanese "super pose books" that you can try. Honestly when lockdown is over just take a walk and draw what/who you see

>spheres.jpg

>>4535594
I like the look of this

>>4535616
>>>/d/iscord

>>4532406
thanks for the comment man. it keeps me going

Okay, giving up on this. I don't understand arms or foreshortening. Everything looks like a mess because I tried fifty different fist variations to no effect. It was a mistake to go for a dynamic pose at my level, I'll practice more arms in neutral stances and try again later.

>>4534596
For what it's worth, I've started last year and I'm in my thirties as a /beg/. I'm really not cut out for this, but figuring things out has been fun so far.

>>4535888
Looks like you’re making good progress, keep it up

Tried sketching indoril mask from morrowind.

>>4535888
I think it's cute anon.

I've only just started and desu ill be happy if I can be at that level in a year.

>>4535888
I think the shoulder sticking out like that is throwing you off, go pose a punch in front of the mirror, take note of your shoulder position of the punching arm.

>>4535537
>>4535632
>>4535577
checked. thanks for the paintover. yeah i see what youre going for. its more readable than mine even though you turned them in ablinos. seems like with this particular lighting you really have improvise like almost how you would paint with lots of blues for a night scene but no actually use really dark values. ill just play around with the values and colors more add see what i can come up with

>>4535998
Morrowind is based. Try to be more angular in your planes, choose carefully hat planes will be light, medium and dark

i understand 3d fundamental with body proportion and such but heads are honestly crushing me hard, they always look out of place and flat

>>4536149
>i understand 3d fundamental

First attempt at watercolor

>>4535998
Read the guide bro, you need drawing on the right side of the brain

I'm trying to learn arm anatomy through proko but I'm not having much luck.

>>4535616
Fuck off, I've been drawing for four months

>>4534422
Some sketches from live refs. They're unpolished as fuck because I couldn't be bothered.

figure drawing
Any advice?
I tried putting in more details like the muscles, i have trouble with non conventional poses

>>4536393
heads seem small, otherwise flow seems good. Main crits on individual ones would be the butt on the sitting one looks really off, and the abs/ waist on the standing one looks odd.

tennis

>>4536169
good

>>4536368
good

>>4536393
ok

>>4536149

Shadow should be used to define form, don't just shade an entire area in a flat color if it has form, especially not with straight lines going across the area, brings the whole thing back. If you want to use a crosshatching shading method, look at some references for how directional hatching can be used to dictate form.

any advice is welcome idk how to improve

>>4536419
flip your canvas

>>4536419
>idk how to improve
R.T.S

>>4536412
Autism
>>4536426
Dilate
>>4536438
pyw

>>4536419
Loomis

are these ok? cant really get the front view down and i've seen the fucking loomis proko video a billion times by now

>>4536498
The bottom two are certainly better that the top one (looks like the HL1 scientist). That said they sorta slip into a different perspective on the jaw. Try drawing it as a wire frame. Honestly the top one is shit but only because you didn't try.

I realised nose bridges only really work if you know what you're doing. I don't so I just simplified greatly.

>>4536510
Do you draw a single thing per week?

>>4534624
Proportion are off and there isn't perspective

>>4536519
Even if I did that would be more then anyone here XDDDDDDDDD

>>4536523
You think too highly of yourself. That's why you still suck after all this time.

self portrait

>>4536531
Yeah but I don't doubt I suck, unironically through most people here quit after a few months. Also that was a joke lmfao if the XD's didn't make the obvious.

>>4536534
respect

Self portrait

My gf

>>4536577
You have an impressive chin

>>4536508
thank you haha yeah it does look like the HL1 scientist, didnt really notice the jaw shifting perspective but ill look into it more

haven't been painting in years... did a value study today.

>>4536577
Fantastical, good job.

Tried to copy mcgregor face after one month of Loomis, am i hopeless?

Can I please get a rundown or redpill on horizon and eye level.

Friend's art, advices?

>>4536843
I advice him to stop.

>>4536851
Well he doesn't want to, and honestly i know some people who are much worst, and i legit would like to help him out.

>>4536854
>did stole
>much morst
i'm going to guess your “friend” isn't real.

>>4536863
My actual art, now can you help me help a friend? Because i'm a fucking rude retard and i don't know how to advise him without sound rude (and feel free to shit on mine all you want, i'm happy with it and don't give a fuck)

>>4536641
Ref?

>>4536873

>>4534712
Perspective is off. Her right side of the head should be closer to us if that’s what you are going for. So the eyes, one is bigger than the other in a odd way. Swap the eye sizes and correct them.

Haven't done shadows yet but still something seems off.

>>4536896
there aren't enough values. it looks dark and muddy. you need more variation to define the forms.

>>4535039
Face features such as eyes are wonky. Not aligned to together. Add edge, too smooth like, fingers are too long, anatomy on torso is unappealing. A bad attachment from torso to the hip area. I want a thank you now.

how are these values?
ref is here >>4491888
and if i were to add the texture, what would be the easiest way in photoshop? just paint it on?

>>4536580
are necks suppose to connect like that?

>>4537098
Hey man, don't about his GF like that!

>>4537098
Only strong necks

>>4537098

I learn nothing when I draw. I'm literally just drawing lines randomly trying to recreate photos.

>>4537193
Try not using references

>>4537197
But that's how you're "supposed" to learn.

>>4537234
No, you learn how to be a photocopy machine
let yourself have fun sometimes

>>4537240
I don't want to be a photocopy machine, I want to be better at drawing humans, but my hippocampus looks like a brown raisin.

>>4537243
Use references, then draw without reference, then compare your drawings and repeat.

hey /beg/ i want to start drawing comics but idk how to do shit from my head, any tips?

>>4537263
Try drawing

>>4537293
been drawing for a decent while, can't seem to get anything out of imagination or understand how to invent poses and faces and shit

any critique welcomed

What if I don't want to study through Loomis, what alternative is there for me?

>>4537345
you can figure things out byg yourself like i do, and use ref parts when you struggle on something

>>4537345
bridgeman
go the frazetta way

>>4537353
My issue with loomis is precisely that I don't want to rely on references. Is Vilppu good for beginners?

>>4537368
If you are /beg/ you need references. You don't know enough to figure shit out on your own. Drawing purely from imagination will result in your learning nothing.

this is the first thing I did where I'm really happy with the proportions and the pose. Its not perfect but Im happy. What do you think, any obvious things to improve?

I finished this and it feels off af. Any suggestion ?

>>4537368
If you don't want to rely on reference you'll need to work on your visual library, and there is no book or resource for this.

When it comes to the basic shapes, is recreating the same shape SUPPOSED to be hard? Just what level of fidelity is "enough"? I suppose such clear shapes are either only ever used in small sizes on a linework drawing or during the sketching phase, how well should I be able to reproduce the one on the left to be happy with it and move on?

>>4537470
Don’t get stuck on something like mastering a single shape before doing anything else. Instead work on pieces that use them a lot so you get to practice them while also learning other stuff.

>>4537488
Sure, but that doesn't really explain just how important replicability of entire shapes over say partial lines of said shapes, is important. I'm asking, how often will I have to make the exact same triangle for example? Ever for a sketch, is that even important?

doing a value/edge study with hard round brush and i need help understanding how you paint w/o muddying shit. Is it something you just get by painting more?

>Just want to draw cute stylized stuff
>Get told to grind loomis/fundies
>Do
>Think I might be getting better
>Try something from imagination for first time in weeks
>No improvement
S E E T H E

I can only draw what I see.

>>4537527
You were probably just going through the ritual of drawing Loomis construction lines and then ignoring them and drawing whatever you wanted on top of them.
If you don't have an understanding of why you're drawing every line of every step in the process and how it's going to help you, you either need to study/practice more or maybe modify the method to suit your needs better. Different people like different construction methods.
While you're grinding fundies you should be doing lots of drawings from imagination that apply the lessons and use the exact same process that you intend on always using whenever you draw from imagination. If you have fundies time on the one hand and then you put that aside and go "ok time to wing it now and see what comes out" then you're missing the point. Basically, what you describe shouldn't happen if you're studying properly.

spending so much time in construction, pretty sure I've regressed substantially for no reason kek.

>>4537539
This is only way possible.

Staring down just how much shit you have to study to even start out as a beginner is making me so anxious. Is the sticky THAT outdated or do I just use google or the threads around here or what. Goddamn self teaching this stuff seems so crazy when theres like a million different resources you have to find and study. Do you just find what works for you best personally?

>>4537693
It's even harder than the sticky makes it sound.
Hope you enjoy being miserable.

My third value study, still bad but i think i'm beginning to understand this.

>>4537693
Nah, the sticky is just enough. Anything else is optional. And I even dare to say you might not need any resource at all.

NEW THREAD
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>>4537747
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>>4537747

>>4537701
im a beg but that plane almost looks like a highlight, i personally would make it darker

how to fix this

Can anyone give really simplistic advice on line-weight? Just out of curiousity. Like, where do you generally make lines thick, where should you use thinner lines?

Its something I notice and appreciate in good drawings but I can't really wrap my head around its logic and replicate it

>>4536918
Thank you

What are some good resources to learn how to get better at acrylic painting. Took a class on it a while back and want to get back into it.

I saw books on it in the sticky, but I'm unsure how useful it may be to someone who doesn't know how to property use brushes correctly.
Also I prefer visual demonstrations.