/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

an art friend i didn't check in for a medium while "became" tr*ns and im like


dude.

>>4523282
instagram image resolution makes me want ot break in the CEO's minecraft house and kill his dog with my bare hands

>>4523326
so you'll suck off the Zucc huh

>>4523282
i just want to draw anime girls

>>4523382
So like 80% of the board? Ok

>has a bachelor in 2d animation, supposed to be looking for a job in background art or concept art
>I actually hate it and wanna focus on trad media instead till I land some pieces in an art gallery (live in paris)
The fuck am I supposed to do I'm running out of time/money

>>4523464
Just give up and go flip burgers

Today was kinda good honestly, i had alot of fun laughing at the shit train that Ilya created. Finally some people realized how much of a hack he is.

>>4523489
You are in a very dark place mentally if you are celebrating other people's failure.

>>4523464
Just do it and practice traditional media on the side.

>>4523282
Haven't been bothering to draw properly because what's the point?
All i'm doing is just shitty scribbles and drawing shitty hands and i don't know what the hell to draw

>>4523282
>Wants to be artist
>All of the popular sites are shit to post art in one way or another
>Decides to make own site to work as portifolio and just gather attention in the popular sited with a low res thumbnail or something
>Gets overwhelmed by the sheer ammount of site makers and can't choose one.

What should I do? Do anyone here has any experience building their own Portifolio site?

>>4523489
I love that smug picture so much.

>>4523626
I just built my site from the ground up, but I use it more for writing than anything else. It's easier than you'd imagine, and you literally just pay server costs, which will be low unless you're serving a LOT of data every month.

>>4523640
It would probably be heavier than yours due the images, but that's interesting to hear about.
I'll look up some programming online classes then

I wonder what my art boyfriend is thinking about right at this very moment. I hope he isn’t reading this thread.

There is this spot I hang out at work and they recently demolished and filled the lake hole with dirt. Sometimes I fucking hate humanity and wish Georgia guidestones rules come to pass. Now all the birds and iguanas have no home.

And you know, I actually made a video of me walking through the pathway of this area so history of this is saved on my phone.

> File taxes a week before the IRS offices closed
> Told tax returns are delayed and put in storage
> 2018 taxes are a mess
> Still haven't and I don't know if I'll get Trump bucks
> Everyone keeps asking my financial situation
> Keep drawing erratically to fight off the building anxiety attack

At least I have my "essential" wage job

>>4523681
Why don't you ask him?

>>4523713
I’m embarrassed and shy and hesitant and My heat pounds just thinking about leaving any kind of messages right now.

I will but not right now.

>>4523692
You should protest or trash the culprit's stuff. Vandalism is bad mmkay but this is a crime against nature as you said it and unless these crimes get punished by nameless justice then it will keep happening.

>>4523464
>>4523545
First you go to the plaza in front of the Eiffel tower, smoke a cigarette and stare moodily into the sunset. Then you turn your head to the side, say "onhh.. hon hon!", and then you just apply for jobs in background/concept art and do trad on the side

>>4523282

>>4524367
That's nasty bro you know how many bacteria are in those?

not really a vent but I'm appraching 300+ hours grinding anatomy this year. I'm better but the more I study, the farther away competency seems.

>>4524371
4 bacteria

>>4523282
When I scroll down various artstations and all I see are highly rendered portrait after highly rendered portrait, I just find it so uninspiring. Is this really what the end game is for some artists? Spend countless hours and years just to create such boring art with no real story and the same recycled composition again and again?

I hate to get into the whole "is talent real" debate but honestly, to me I feel like there is some truth to the existence of talent. Except, it's not in the technical side of art; I believe literally anyone can learn the techniques to make good looking art and apply them. But clearly there is some other quality, that a person either has or doesn't, that drives them to make art that is interesting. And so many technically skilled artists I have seen just do not have it.

>ablooblooo people who pay me money to make them cute comfy drawings have, c-criticism of me??? pls hug me twitter and throw rocks at the badman for me!!!
should've stayed in the drafts

>>4524957
The average modern man has become very soft

>>4524992
Ah, apparently it's a girl

a lot of people here are not artists but attention whores, artists serves their art, attention whores uses art to sell themselves, i still don't know in wich case i am, i don't know if i wanna do art to show everyone that i am the best (wich is silly) or for the only purpose of art. who am i? what is my purpose? i don't know why i draw

>$150 for a mediocre ref sheet of your OC
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aDUd0EOCQf3LdhRJyRGKTsBPOw_S2BKSRBU3mP3fLl8/edit#

Why aren't you making big bucks already?

>>4524957
She's too soft, but that comment could be less bitchy.

>>4524957
Why did they commission someone who only posts uguu desu kawaii art? What were they expecting? Why didn’t they search for someone with a more suitable style in the first place?

>>4524957
>Implying that has even really happened
Too elaborate for a "buyers regret" combined with her post and the fact that she's using that to point at herself and how "defenseless" she is masking it with virtue signaling, reeks immensely of bullshit.
All in all it translates to:
>"Give me money and shut up"

It’s funny how ic focuses in minuscule things like talent or IQ, while totally ignoring actual problems which prevent learning art, like brain trauma they got from multitasking and instant gratification, which leads to lack of focus and discipline. No wonder they can’t get into Fun with the pencil, it was released before color television was a thing, can it really compete with internet in fun department? Which is really shame, KJG himself said that he learned art only because he was bored. Imagine what average d/ic/k could achieve if he had his dopamine levels in check.

>>4523506
shut the fuck up nerd
Ilya is a hack and the schadenfreude will be ever so sweet if he decides to put a bullet in his head because he can't stand the embarrassment of being mocked by the entire internet for birthing this absolute abomination and desecration of a classed and beloved series

>>4523282
How the hell do you learn anatomy, how are you even suppose to use Hamptons book

>>4525461
why would you use hampton's book for anatomy when hampton says it's not an anatomy book?

get an actually anatomy book like Bammes or Anatomy for sculpture. copy until you can draw the bones and muscles from memory.

>>4525472
What the hell is hampton for then ?

>>4525611
Anal to me book

>>4523489
Who is Ilya, and what happened with him?

>>4525472
Pyw

>>4525640
Have none to post

>>4523692
that upside down image is a crime

>>4523316
>that one artist I liked few years ago
>became mutuals at some point
>he stopped posting
>a year later his gf posts from his account that he is depressed and on medication now
>skip forward one year
>he posts selfies in female clothing and dresses
Now I just wait for him to come out as a tranny and finish himself

>>4525611
Construction autism

>>4525611
how to approach and construct figures.
>>4525640
here are some torso studies and doodles i did the other day

>>4526523
forgot to attach

I still haven’t drawn anything today

>leave a like on mutuals work
>he unfollows you

>design a character for a comfy comic
>accidentally make him my type
>now i just want to rebuild the entire comic to be an erotic romcom
How do i fight with my degenerate self?

>usually draw regularly
>six months ago have an art block
>two weeks ago I managed to get ideas back so I start practicing again to scrap off the rust
>two weeks and I still can't draw jackshit
I'm really really fucking mad. Drawing was fun or challenging, but now it's just pure frustration 24/7.

>>4527198
>unfollows
Why?

>>4527427
Guess I reminded him of my existence and he no longer likes my work

>>4523282
>was gonna write a comment on someone's post
>check his page more and see that he's actually really good
>too scared to comment

I give up

>>4527674
Don’t give up

>>4527674
Nah

>>4523282
loneliness is actually genuinely for the first time crippling my artistic output.
I imagine having a girlfriend when I close my eyes before going to sleep
and every little thing my parents or siblings do irritates the fuck out of me.
How do u anons cope with loneliness and HOW DO I GET A FUCKING GIRLFRIEND
GOD IM SO FUCKING HORNY UGGA I WANNA COOM I WANNA SUCC I WANNA FUGG UGGA
I'M SO FUCKING LONELY UGGA UGGA BUNGGA!!!!!!!!!

>>4527727
>how do i cope with loneliness when i want a gf
you stop wanting anything

Some common, recurring thoughts:
1. I'm inspired by so much, but nothing can get me to actually put a line on paper.
2. There's not much of a reason to draw when just about everything has already been done before and way better than what I'm capable of.
3. I'm worried that my work will never be original.
4. I can't draw more than five minutes before giving up and moving on to something else.
5. Back between 2015-17, I could actually sit down and study, but now I can't muster the strength to do basic shapes or doodles.
6. I can't shake off all the negative thoughts I'm flooded with even before I try to draw. It's like my brain is conditioned for failure.
7. All my personal work looks the same.
8. I feel like I'm too old for this.
9. I've literally spent more time feeling bad about art than actually trying to improve.
10. If it were really meant to be, I would have made it by now.
I probably left some stuff out, but this sums it up pretty well. I'm waiting for a break in this never ending cycle.

>>4523282
Clip Studio Paint's garbage brush managing system has shaved a couple of years of my life

Why are Small Intuos tablet stuck with shitty cables? I was drawing 1 hour ago and It was starting to get in fire.

getting tired of not being able to draw what it is i want in the sense of i cant communicate what i want to express with the artwork. it feels like theres metaphorical ducktape on the mouth of my drawing.

>>4527727
Just get an escort, you are not lonely just horny

fuck perspective

>>4523282
/vent/ threads are the most pathetic on this board. go to r9k

>>4528395
>he says, while venting on the /vent/ thread on /ic/

What the fuck is up with the skirt tipping meme on niptwitter lately I don’t get it. At. All.

I really want to create a comic series with an art style based on Rick & Morty, Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, standard western animation stuff... but the hate from this board is making me feel self-conscious and stopping me from doing what I want to do.

>>4528437
If the writing is good, literally people would read it and say so. 90% of people here are beg shitters with no unique artistic vision. There's nothing to be ashamed of.

>>4528350
it's a saturated mix of the two, but loneliness sure outweighs the horny. And it's lockdown, why would I get a dirty whore in my house who's been in contact with god known how many people?

>>4528437
Eh, refer to the other anon who replied to your post. He got the bases covered.

>>4528445
there are people you can pay to pretend to be your girlfriend on voice chat
like https://www.fiverr.com/naomiburch/pretend-to-be-your-girlfriend-for-one-week

>>4528455
if it comes to the point where ill unironically pay women to pretend to be my girlfriend id actually commit sudoku.

cant even figure out want i what to draw anymore. all my thoughts get as far as i want to draw this character. cant even come up with a gesture because one i dont know what i want to exactly draw or vague gesture is just flat out incoherent

>>4523681
I'm not thinking about you, that's for sure, you ugly freak.

>>4528655
You're not my pig, banana.

>>4527727
Exercise. Run outside. Seriously.

>>4528445
You will get over it once you get real good at drawing, people are time wasters.

>>4523282
why do i lose motivation to draw after i coom

>>4528852
Stop wasting your energy on your peen and start wasting in on your pen instead

I wish I didn't have chronic pain and depression daily. It's so hard to get out of bed and do things when the first thing you note in the day is just pain and fatigue. I've managed to get into the habit of at least drawing an hour a day, now sometimes two, going from no drawing at all, but it's so hard to keep up. I hate this. I hate daily life. I hate the pain. I hate spending full days in bed when it gets especially rough, when the sound of people or the outside light makes me cower in my bed even more. I wish I was normal.

>>4528883
i want to, but it’s difficult. i draw coom art so even that makes me horny, though id like to limit the time i spend on masturbation.

>>4525427
You are going to have to get some help on that if you ever want to get out of this place

>start learning perspective and anatomy
>start noticing glaring mistakes in other people's work
>porn and webcomics become less and less enjoyable
>can't fucking stop noticing said mistakes
Good god what have I done?

>consistently draw an hour or so a day for a few weeks
>marginal, incremental improvements, feelsgoodman
>stop drawing for 2 days because life shit
>lose fully half of what I learned, and most of the muscle memory
That's it, I'm buying a gun

>>4528964
im a smallbrain. can you explain what's going on in your pic?

>>4528964
You have become enlightened and are now aware of the monstrosities which plague our realm of coom but would you have rather be living under a blissful dream being completely unaware? If you want to gauge the level of draftsmanship take a look at how the hands are drawn and most importantly used - take the Ishikei pill.

>>4528978
Expecting actual improvement from drawing only 1 hour a day is ridiculous. That’s only 30 hours a month.Try studying for 2-3 hours every day.

>>4528985
Ian was depressed because he was standing in a green screen, pretending that several actors were there when they weren't. The problem with that is that Ian is an old school actor, he's used to interacting directly with his colleges. That's when he said "I didn't became an actor for this".
>>4528986
Never heard of Ishkei

>>4528990
I usually gun for more than that, but 1 hour's my minimum, I'm at 3 today

>>4528964
on the flipside, you begin to appreciate artists who really know their shit

>>4529002
It sucks because there aren't that many of them.

>>4528455
>$5 for one week
Talk about under selling.

>>4529003
what artists are you thinking of?
for me, it's
ishikei
menyoujan
cle masahiro
orangemaru

>>4529039
This one
https://tapas.io/episode/1731122
I got interested because the blonde dude is my perfect type, so I'd be willing to go along with just about any level of shitty plot, and I was never as picky about art as most of /ic/. But holy shit that ear placement, it's driving me absolutely crazy. Then there was Sana who did an inverted penis in his goblin cave animation. Then some artists who are good with their anatomy but have a severe case of sameface. It's just distracting, and getting in the way of me enjoying the pieces for what they are.

>>4529039
Also there's this straight artist, Calmdraws, hugely talented, but his male hands are just too big compared to the rest of the body.

When does it get fun?
It's not gratifying to produce bad drawings, I find studying nothing more than a tedious necessity.
I draw because I have ideas, but I cant derive any enjoyment from drawing if I can't properly execute these ideas.

>>4529155
No, pic related isnt mine. Please don't ban me.

>>4529172
nobody expected it to be

>>4527727
Wait, this is me

Is it true that trad drawings can never get as much attention as digital art if you want to amass a following? Kinda concerned about this

>>4529214
Why would you care? If you like drawing traditionally, then just do it

>>4529176
Mods seem to given i've been banned posting artwork which clearly isnt mine before

Some noob on /ic/ was telling me to 'JUST DRAW' when i'm clearly better than him/her
status of jimmies: rustled;

>>4529214
a lot of artists i follow on instagram still draw trad and they are pretty popular: parkjinsuky, omardogan1976, miss.jisu for some examples.

I think digital art is easier to pump out which is why you do see more of it, but trad art can get popular too if you”re good. so just worry about getting good

>>4527727
Having a waifu

>>4529214

A cursory glance at "art" youtube account would prove this isnt true.

>>4529155
If you don't enjoy drawing for the sake of drawing, then stop now.

>>4529155
It gets fun when you steal someone's artwork, make minor changes and post on social media. It's best to steal lesser known artists who are outside of your country.
Minimal effort for lots of recognition, respect and maybe even possible $$$

>>4528129
Planned obsolescence.
Buy a cable protector or set up a workstation that won't be moved around a whole lot

>>4523282
>start drawing League porn
>one of my commissions gets posted on a booru site
>image is swarmed with a group of nasty RPers playing out the scenario in the drawing
>discover that there is an entire community of these people

>>4529678
Yeah, you'd be surprised how deep that rabbit hole goes. I knew some people that were into that kinda shit. Keyword "knew".

>>4529678
>commissioned to draw a human character as a tiger
>ok, these commissions weren't for animals, but i can draw a tiger, why not
>get paid, draw the tiger
>mfw it was shapeshifting fetish
>mfw they have commissioned hundreds of other artists the same thing
i wonder what its like to spend thousands of dollars in a futile attempt to satiate your autism. money is money though, i ain't complaining.

>>4528675
Why are you pretending to be me? Who are you and why do you keep doing this? You’re not the admin, you’re not pig, you’re not anyone on my follow list, you’re not anyone I know since 2014, so why are you so persistent?

Can’t you just tell me who you are already? I’m not going to step foot in your shit general anymore either so you might as well talk to me here instead.

>>4524957
>Commissions someone with a style they don't like
is this person retarded?

>>4529738
this. whenever i commission i notice the worst images in their gallery and i set my standards anywhere from their worst artwork to their best. usually it turns out pretty good though.

>>4529678
Now you are aware that there is probably some RP account on twitter that uses your artwork and have more followers than you

>>4530123
>Now you are aware that there is probably some RP account on twitter that uses your artwork and have more followers than you
well, i am now

>>4529728
Shut the fuck up

>>4530326

Back off??

i don't have the dedication to power through this early phase where everything i draw looks awful and i fucking hate it. just fucking draw, idiot

>>4530326
Leave me alone I’m not in your general so fuck off and stop stalking me

>>4529690
Do you really want to know what it's like though?

I want to draw so bad, but I know I'll end up disappointed.
Why am I so old and still going through this?

>live in shithole with daily energy blackouts
>constantly have to save progress
>save twice as to leave a backup file in case one gets corrupted every time I draw a stroke
This paranoia is getting out of control.

>>4523282
>5 years ago my art had soul (pic related)
>2020 now and all i draw is glossy coomer art
>coomer art pays the bills and i have no free time
>nobody will buy the kind of art im passionate about and want to make

its a living.

>>4530791
yeah, sure

>>4530829
???

>>4530834
I was going to give you shit in an attempt to get you to show your other work but I don't feel like it now unless you want to anyway.

>>4530836
feels bad man dont bully me

>>4530838
lol, k

>>4529530
It's hard to enjoy the process when you don't understand the process.

>>4530862
making marks on paper is the process

i wish the /las/ thread was more enjoyable and like the archived ones... less people letting themselves get baited and more art talk

>>4530883
please stay in your containment

>>4530883
How's it feel stepping out of the circlejerk for a second?

I wish the /las/ admin would neck himself.

I wish the /las/ admin would suck my cock...

I wish the /las/ admin would fuck off and die.

I hate everyone on /ic/

I hate everyone in the /dad/ general

I hate everyone on 4chan

I hate everyone in this thread, everyone should just fucking drop dead

>>4523282
I love everyone on /ic/. Apply yourself, do studies, draw what you want. You CAN make it.

>>4531086
I don’t like this guy, gets on my nerves,

>>4527727
lift weights / do sports

>>4528085
You have to break it anon, noone else can. Stop making excuses, you are just insecure. Do art and create stuff for yourself, every time you will be slightly better than the previous time. With mileage, skill comes as well

>>4531090
ngmi and crabpilled

>>4531116

I hope you die of corona electricboogaloo 2.0

>>4531117
I hope you stop being a negative faggot

>>4531130
Fuck you. Die.

>>4531135
everyone look at him. look at this bitter manchild and laugh.

ohoooohohohohohohohooooooo reeeeeeeetaaaaaarrrdddd stop being a nancyass failure haha

>>4531139

I will be the top artist on this board an then I’ll kill you all. You’ll see you’ll all see and then you’ll beg for forgiveness

>>4531149
dont spazz out on us bro. you okay? your arrogance is why people dislike you. how old are you anyways, this is a 18+ board you know

>>4531160
Why do I care if you “people” don’t like me, you’re below me. You’re lower than a dog and dog shit. Find a bullet and hand it to me so I can finish you off, worthless /las/ trash.

>>4531167
Woah, so much anger. So much frustration. Yet another pampered retard that can't handle he is not handed the world to him on a silver platter.

Nice projecting with that 'you are below me, you are dog shit' talk. Would like to see you say that irl. Listen, just because you think low of yourself doesn't mean that you have to bring others down you know. Maybe you could take your head out of your ass and actually do something productive instead of being a bitch and generally being a dead weight to others around you

>>4531185
Come to my state motherfucker I’ll gladly not only tell it to your face but show you the entrance to your new home 6ft under.

I accept the fact that the reason I still browse this site/board is because I have no real accomplishments and have nobody in my life who cares about me in general.

I keep browsing this place instead of drawing. I wish I stopped. I've tried blocking this site but there's always another distraction such as YouTube if I don't browse 4chan.

I will always keep coming back to this place unless my drawings become good enough and I make it. There's no other way at this point.

>>4531193
you speak real tough for a sheltered american. hahah your antics amuse me child

>>4531086
ty bby :*

>>4531206
finally. some positivity. you can make it anon I believe in you

>>4531206
>>4531210
Kill you selves

>>4531214
why dont you do the world a favour and take your own advice

>>4531217
I don’t owe the world shit. Now get the fuck out of this thread.

>>4531225
no. you will not always get your way, you need to accept that

>>4531228
I do not understand you have a free general without my presence now. Why do you refuse to go back and leave me alone?

>>4531233
I dont get this post desu. I got attacked for posting encouraging words, and found offense in that... maybe it is pointless, arguing with retards who refuse to open their eyes

>I don’t owe the world shit. Now get the fuck out of this thread.

>>4531234
Fuck off /las/ scum just get out of here I can’t stand you fucking losers

>>4529728
I'm Spartacus

>>4531318
More like fagtacus

>need a hi-res detailed image of somebody squashing their nose up in profile for a reference
>google is being a shitter
>for the first time I can't physically produce my own reference because I had a rhinoseptoplasty in 2017 and my nose is now too hard to compress into the shape I need

>>4531360
I can help you shape your nose with my fist you stupid bitch.

>>4531377
hehehe i said mean thing on internet i am tough and scary hehe

>>4531386
*sigh* you’re so lucky I can’t beat your ass

>>4531399
You're not even talking to me lmao

>>4531399
there's no way this isn't a deliberately retarded post right?

>>4531399
wowow man just so edgy

im falling apart

>>4531419
Fall faster

>>4531423
get your pissy prepubescent anger out somewhere else

>>4531446
I’ll release my pent up anger in your moms pissy stupid retard

fuck off already ramunegro

>>4531468
Go back to your shitpen of a general

>>4531477
only after you stop posting

>>4531479
I did stop posting, in your general. Now leave me alone.

>>4525639
Russian weeb artist who /ic/ shits on constantly. Recently became the lead artist on the newest Ghost in the Shell, which has fueled equal amounts of seething and understandable admonishment.

>>4531483
You leave me alone first, freak.

>>4531487

Die first and then that can happen

>>4528433
>niptwitter

>>4531399
>*Sigh*
Are we bringing back the astrisk rping?

>>4531501
I’m bringing back your mom

>>4531509
Please put her back I don't want her

>>4531510

.t single mom raised

>>4531546
You got me, mom is a literal whore

>>4531594
Be honest you fucked your mom didn’t you? Someone had to be man of the house

>>4531602
No dick :(

>>4531611
Why’d you chop it off? This is what happens when moms like yours don’t marry a true provider with bbc.

>>4531628
Because it all started out as being a furry. Now I want to be stepped on and pissed in my mouth

>>4531645
Piss in the mouth huh. You’re an okay tranny.

Eat an ass. You’ll feel better.

I'm /beg/ as hell and keep going too deep on sketches. I can't really do competent linework yet I keep trying to practice shading. It is a really annoying habit to break.

Gargle semen for more than 30 seconds you’ll feel better I promise

Most headaches come from poor dental hygiene, so I recommend flossing with the pubic hair of a dog as it has natural bacteria killing agents for humans. You’ll feel better I promise

Shit if you can’t find any dog dental floss, all natural btw, or if your dog simply doesn’t have pubic hair then pluck their whiskers out and use that.

You will feel better but your dog won’t

If you want to earn your dogs trust you need to pluck out it’s whiskers and use it as a paintbrush.

I'm ESL myself, but god, talking to someone who's English is barely there is such a fucking pain in the ass. Don't talk to me

>>4532043
Yeah you like ass pain, don't you fagbender.

People got cabin fever, go outside and take a jog.

>have art account
>get my first follower
>go to their page and realize I don't like their art
>morally conflicted about whether I follow them back out of respect or ignore them
What do?

>>4532578
Never follow back. Chances are they followed you just so you followed them back.

>spend hours on a painting over a couple of days and feel decently happy with the end result
>save final.png a couple of times because notice last minute mistakes and now i am definitely done
>the moment i see the uploaded image on a social media it morphs into a disgusting abomination and a number of giant fundamental flaws seemingly showing up from nowhere

Is this some kind of mental illness? I can't trust my own fucking eyes

>>4523282
I HATE using references. Wasting my time Googling until I find someone in the right shape in the right position at the right angle to draw what I envision. I wish I had a good enough grasp on anatomy to just draw whatever I wanted

>>4528085
/ic/ seems to be on the fence on this guy last time I checked, but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLqWs621x3g
This guy is pretty inspiring to listen to whenever I'm feeling stressed about art.

>>4532578
>follow back out of respect
Is this really how people think?
>>4532709
Well there is a balance. I think what Will Terrell once recommended is that you use reference for practice, then go back and try to draw it again from imagination. That works out the mind and helps make your mind used to imagining details that you can't see directly in front of you.
Also, dude, you've really got to be patient. If you want to study something easy to pick up try vidya kek

>>4532709
The point of using a reference isnt to directly copy it.

>90% of my following is Japanese for some reason.
>I post in English.
>All my posts are sketches and unfinished comic pages.
Are they trying to convert me?

>>4532803
At least it's not fucking brazilians

>>4532823
What's so bad about brazilians?

>>4532834
I'm not brazilian and I don't know why so many of them and also hispanics are following me

>>4532839
do they call you papi?

>>4526525
based and biggs pilled

there's so much to fucking learn I feel like a pleb and poser hate it so god damn much aaaaaauughhh

>woke up extra early
>fucking finally, gonna use that extra daylight for watercolor sketches
>also can do some figure excercises and work on a digital painting
>unironically excited
>sit down for a warm up
>doodles suck ass more then they are supposed to
>try figure drawing
>did a better job once when i was half asleep
>try constructing a paint bottle in front of me
>realize I'm unable to draw a straight line
>realize that lack of sleep and morning coffee turned me into a jittery mess for at least several hours

Everything I draw today will be fucking revolting. What a waste of time, effort and watercolor paper.

I hate having my favorite artist streaming and not being able to understand what he is saying

it feels impossible to learn to draw as a boomer. I hate it.

Why cant i just be fucking normal?

>>4533012
that feeling never goes away lmao. There's literally always some way you can improve. You get used to it.

There are only two types of threads in /ic/ that get a ton of responses:
>when roasting X famous artist
>complaining threads like this one
Bois, change your mentality, stop being so negative desu

>draw an elaborate design
>only to be covered by hair

>had a genius idea for a short comic spanning a few pages in the shower this morning
>normally borderline aphantasic but this time I had a crystal clear idea of the panel layout, characters and composition in my head
>realized I still can't draw anywhere near well enough to execute it well
>hastily wrote down as much of the plot, dialogue and panel descriptions shot for shot in my phone notes
>can't stop feeling immensely anxious that by the time I would have gotten good enough I will look at my then completely useless notes wondering what the fuck I was thinking
this will either be my strongest motivator or what makes me drop my pursuit of artistic skill once and for all

>>4532768
It's a personal thing really. Just feels weird to not acknowledge my first follower since I'm not drowning in notifications like bigger artists and can't use the "I missed their follow" excuse

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH GET THE FUCK OF /IC/ AND DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH GET OF GET OFF GET OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF HIT THE COLD TURKEY BUTTON AND GET THE FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

FUCK MY SHITTY LIFE I JUST WANT A GUN TO BLOW MY STUPID USELESS NGMI BRAINS OUT

god i'm fucking TRASH i should jump off a bridge

>>4529214
I would say the opposite is true.
For some reason people think digital art takes less skill than traditional art or that the computer does half the work.
It's much easier to impress people with traditional art.
Maybe because everyone tries traditional art as a kid so they can relate to it more.

>drawing digitally with no stabilizer
>strong, confident lines
>drawing traditionally
>chicken scratched by octogenarian with alzheimer

I do not understand

>>4533207
Don't be normal. Leave humanity behind.

>>4524957
i feel like this needs more context. yeah, the comment is pretty bitchy but at the same time did op check in with the customer at all during the commission? i normally do two check-ins between processes just to see if anything needs to be changed, fixed, added, etc..

>>4526401
there are far too many stories like this. I'm increasingly becoming convinced that a majority of people who think they have genderdysphoria suffered some kind of schizophrenic break and unconsciously decided to symbolically and literally castrate themselves.

I think I might finally be reaching the level where I can produce something other people might take genuine interest in, but looking around the internet I'm worried that we may have reached the point where the world is saturated with good content already. The only way to make waves would be to either do something revolutionary with high production values or have a PR team/ the people in charge of the algorithm backing you, ideally both.

>>4533542

I find your art genuinely interesting anon

>>4533542
Season is this really you posting?

>>4523282
I usually experience a couple of brief moments of satisfaction when I finish a piece and then I look at it the next day and it's trash. Will it always be like this?

>>4533714
you're satisfied because you did well by your own standards, you're dissatisfied because you recognize the distance between that and your ideal.

>>4533503
Based
>>4533472
Chill dude, with chill attitude everything's easier, believe me
>>4533104
Who is it?
>>4532709
This is not the point. You're trying to learn the object, see different variations to come up with your own design, etc

>>4533721
You know me better than I know myself, anon

>>4533202
If you think so pops

>>4533299
Can you just storyboard it with stick figures?

I hope my art boyfriend is in good health.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
RULES OF NATURE

>Haven't touched a video game in years
>try SMT Nocturne
>get hooked, can barely put it down to draw
>after ~70hrs beat it
>start up SMT IV, get hooked again
>realize I'm addicted
Dropped them now, taking a week off to make sure. Shocking how fast I got addicted again.

>>4533994
As somebody who went through an SMT binge, I know that feeling.
Drop the video games and go draw fanart or something to keep yourself productive

>>4533994
I binged Divinity 2 in a week. It was pretty fun, especially since I have barely played any vidya since I started taking art seriously, but it's also not something I'd like to do regularly.

>>4533994
Such is the way of RPGs, especially SMT and Persona. You first realize they're all good so that's nice, right?
Well no. It's 70 hours or so per game.

>>4534013
And let's not even talk about online games like WoW, those are just a timesink that'll make you feel guilty as an artist

>>4533202
It feels impossible to have any kind of decent line control as a boomer.

>>4534190
Search for "zentangles" on youtube. You'll find countless actual boomers who have taken up drawing these patterns in their retirement with excellent line control. I think begs spend to much time learning and not enough time putting ink or graphite on paper. I'm not even sure learning counts for much during the beginning of practice if a beg never gets their hand in basic shape.

I don't know how I want to draw faces

>>4530791

Make a separate SOUL account from your COOM account and take 1-3 commissions on it maximum.
That way, you can please both masters.

>>4530769

Buy a separate mini generator solely for your pc and plug it in.

>>4531195

Did Hogarth draw this? It looks like his style (tm).

>>4530769
Are you from Venezuela?

>>4533989
I put everything into this and no one gives me (You) s, please say something ;_;
People don't like dinosaurs anymore?

>>4535189
I'll (you) you but only if you touch my cock

>>4535193
No problem. I touch mine all the time, I'm somewhat of an expert.

>>4535189
Your fault for posting art to a vent thread (without any intention of genuine vent related to the art). Just go to the draw threads.

>>4535221
I already did that and got ignored in beg and alt. I already got mentally rekt. Oh well better luck next time, I'll re use his design

>hate drawing porn
>love animating it

>was making slow progress over the past few years
>suddenly can no longer conceptualize 3d forms in my head
>can't draw basic shapes consistently anymore
I'm only 25 is there way to reverse brain rot or am I doomed?

>>4535410
brain is rewiring itself. Keep drawing and it'll sort it out by itself.

>>4523282
Got rejected from two art jobs in the past two weeks. Almost happy that they sent a letter.

I have accomplished nothing in my life. I have a lot to offer but feel like failure.

Did anyone here have ever became a friend with one of their followers? I feel like we're on completely different levels and they just want to become friends for free art and I'm not good at making friends

>Decided to do the 6 fanarts meme two weeks ago
>thought my follower base is ded
>actually got twelve requests immediately
>havent drawn anything in two weeks

How the hell am suppose to study something if i cant even identify the issue in the first place?

>>4535558
I have something like this and as an autismo who gets drained after sending two direct messages it's fucking annoying and tiring
>get DM'd about commissions
>trip over myself spaghetti flying everywhere while I figure out pricing and shit
>"haha sorry for the wait here are my prices"
>"great thanks I'm not in a hurry to get this comm :)"
>never brings it up again
>he continues to dm me to converse about whatever
i feel like my money is being held hostage please just leave me alone

Why do some people make dedicated personas to shitposting 24/7 on /ic/? What do they gain from pretending to be a retarded character, starting drama, and getting (you)s instead of drawing and improving?

I see this happen in so many threads where the conversation starts off relevant towards art, then some dipshit hijacks it with bait and then doubles-down on the act forever (until the next thread). It goes beyond being a simple crab into being a single-minded force of destruction.

Does this shit happen to other boards or just /ic/ specifically?

>>4535720
It's just fun, little boy. This is 4chan, i.e. both a dump and a playground, don't take it too seriously.

Holy shit he's everywhere. This is getting freaky.

>>4535720
It's just fun, little boy. This is 4chan, i.e. both a dump and a playground, don't take it too seriously.

>>4535727
What happen?

>>4535730
He keeps deleting and reposting his creepy larp. It's really getting sad.

>>4535731
What larp? What are you talking about

>>4535734
you're replying to a schizo, he's hearing the voices again, sad :(

>>4535734
This guy >>4535728 >>4535736
Keeps deleting and reposting his shitposts for some reason. You can see it in the archive. He has a whole thread dedicated to a persona, and will now spread here

>>4535737
O, ok lol?

>>4535741
I don't know what he's trying to gain. He'll either get bored, get banned, or become the next /ic/ mascot.

>>4535743
No one cares, shut up.

>Degenerate coomer artist
>Never been in / pursued a relationship with anyone
>Just turned 28 and feeling old, unlovable, and worthless
>Try drawing something cute for once
>Draw a kid receiving a birthday gift
>Burst into tears at the thought of never having a son or daughter to make happy

>>4535750
If he continues his shitposting crusade, everyone will care eventually.

>>4535754
Dude, you're the one shitposting now, stop obsessing over whoever hurt you. This thread isn't your personal diary. Got it?

>>4535760
Sure. But if you see an anon posting stock images of smug women and femdom coomer art, don't reply to him. He'll shit up any thread with his persona and then no one will draw.

>>4535751
It's never too late, anon :)

>>4535763
I don't care, go away.

>>4535768
Oh fuck you're probably him nevermind

>>4535754
Nobody cared for ugly chink or aw*mufag and they disappeared in two weeks

>>4535772
You are crazy.

lol

>>4535773
That does put a smile on my face.

>>4535773
Awumafu? Who?

>>4535787
He was an ESLfag anon that tried forcing an autistic meme he called "awamu". I forgot what it means, but it had something to do with anime being bad or something.

>>4535797
Oh ok.

1.
>Learn more and more
>You draw better and better
>Skill grows little by little
>Understanding how much you still do NOT know is growing exponentially
>I just want to give up

2.
>paint a picture
>invested in it meaning, emotions, atmosphere
>posted,
>waiting for comments with a description of what feelings the picture evokes, theories, deep toughts about what it
>actual comments:
>good work
>I like it
>Cool colors
>Keep going and etc.
>Disappointed.
>But you understand.
>After all, when you watch other people's works yourself, you just like them and don’t even write anything.
>You're a hypocritical bastard and an attentionwhore.

Fuck this shitty as board for making me miserable and made drawing so much less enjoyable. Nothing but a bunch of cynical pessimists, or shitposters, no amount of feedback is worth it from this place, id rather be shitty for another year and a half, and at least barely enjoy myself rather then be miserable and hating myself every minute, even tho id possibly be “improving”. Fuck /ic/

never stop drawing. i started drawing after 10 years and its bad, very bad.

>>4533542
If this is really you Season, then fuck off you obnoxious twat.
Go circlejerk with Simon and the other elitist NOMAPs

>>4536067
>noo you're not allowed to be attracted to fictional kids someone call the thoughtpolice

>>4536067
are you frustrated because you couldn't join their circle?

>>4523626
Hire someone. They are expensive but it's a one-time investment

Didn't realise there was a vent thread

>bag was stolen
>sketchbook was in there which hurt the most as I had some drawings and paintings in there I really loved

>Studied and painted for years
>all the people around me always say what a good artist I am
>can't get a job, commission or anything more than 50 likes no matter how hard I try I get no reach
>never want to give up but it hurts that it feels like I'm going nowhere

>fell in love with another artist
>she eventually broke down and ended up in a mental institution turns out she has a rare form of schizophrenia and bipolar
>she calls and texts me daily telling me how much she loves me in a delirious state from the mental ward
>too much of a coward to tell her I can't do this anymore because I know she'll do something if I do

>grandma died
>at the funeral after party with all of family
>they all want me to paint her portrait from when she was young
>couldn't say no, feel depressed every time I pick up the paint brush to paint her
>can't even finish it in time for Grandad's birthday

I just feel numb at this point, this month has just broken me.

>>4536067
Mad cuz bad

I used to watch artstation speedpaintings and thought that all those straight-to-paint processes are pure black magic shitfuckery and that there's no way I could do the same.

And now after a year or two that's the way I work :)

Was forced back home because of Covid.
Living again with my family, rather than basically solitary in my apartment, reminds me of how "wrong" my thinking is. To an extent.

I can't seem to care about my family, or anyone. I don't connect at any level. I hate it, I only see them as providers/meal-tickets, regardless of how "caring" they act towards me.

But at the same time, they follow a cultish religion and so does everyone else in the country. Exasperated by Ramadan.
If I'm found as an apostate, I would at best be disowned and homeless and worst killed.

>They don't hate you because they think you're one of them.
Was what another anon said to me, it's frighteningly true.

I lost my spark. I was doing pretty good with practicing and starting to understand. But then finals happened and i got occupied for 3 weeks. Somewhere in between i realized i didn't want to make art as a career anymore, and now i don't have the drive to draw anything anymore. No ideas, no passion, no motivation. I'm taking this as a sign that it's time to give up. Only issue is drawing was the only skill i put time into since i was little that i don't know what else to do anymore. I have no other skills.

>>4537623
O gosh, anon, you got it rough. I hope it was just a black streak and from now on things will get better.