/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4525714
first for our trap queen tang

OHMYGOD i did not catch that mickey mouse while looking the submission

>>4525722

how the fuck do you draw stone?

>Round Three Prompt.devlink

>>4525744
Copy your reference.

Do you feel like doing better or worse after seeing your scores?

>>4525744
Watch dr stone

>>4525714
Dumbfuck normie retards kysves in quarantine.
Hope this lockdown lasts for years to come hahabahaa

Gonna start stream in two hours or so. If anyone wants me to link to theirs please let me know! Maybe we can do a hangouts for everyone drawing or something.

>>4525782
yes

>>4525782
I'm having fun despite getting tiered lower

Ganbarre dads

>>4525744
i think theyre usually angular, unless its a rock from like a river or something, if its from a watery area they're pretty rounded

>>4525791
You stole my joke. Are you my brother?

>>4525798
who dis
I'll come hang while I continue prompt

>>4525798
I wanna stream but my connection is trash

I was gonna join but ive noticed you have female mods and quite a few underage bans.
Noped right the fuck outta there.

>>4525852
Oh nooooo the femmoids will ruin my fun noooo

>>4525859
Unironcially women ruin everything, especially online groups/servers. Seen it happen too many times.

Their incessant drama and simp orbiters just create a toxic sludge environment.
Kids are slightly more tolerable but still annoying.

>>4525852
lol good

>>4525852
we dont need trash users, the community is great already.

>>4525852
>tfw no dommy mod mommy to punish me

>>4525873
>we dont need trash users
Seemed to me like you have more than enough already

Don’t engage with the bait. Don’t play with trash, kids. (:

I hope you guys are already doing drafts for the tourney ;)

>>4525882
They hated Jesus because he told the truth...

>>4525886
im not confident in mine at all

>>4525886
s-shuddup I'm still brainstorming!

>>4525852
>joining the Discord and not the site
I shiggy diggy

>>4525852
>act like cool 4chan man
>unironically join disc*rd

>>4525852
No female mods, just a mentally unstable admin who can’t draw and a rookie coder. But yeah, just leave.

i miss mehmeh...

>>4525852
It's quite obvious who you are

Someone please make a tourny playlist...

>>4525944
Bruh, I'm on it right now.

Oh god the tourny pic I picked is all my weaknesses

will i get points from judges for being ambitious even if i fall on my face completely

>>4525960
>tfw you're middle of the pack and you have no choice but to be ambitious

It's sort of comfy seeing that tourny is pushing us all to be more ambitious than usual.

Is this type sculpture allowed for for the prompt?

>>4525971
Yea

>>4525934
take your meds

Who is this dumb troll?

>>4525993
>troll
Shut up, woman.

Detroit Become Human is actually a nice game, people focus too much on the awful narrative and not what it added to the genre. Including a flowchart guarantees the player that the effort he puts into his choices will be rewarded with unique outcomes.

>>4525852
>>4525865
Back to r9k, don't need this kind of toxic shit here.

>>4526105
Calm down kazook

>>4526107
>someone disagrees with out
>REEEE FEMALE FUCK OFFFF
kazoo barely posts on here you idiot

>>4526109
Bullshit she posted last thread or whatever.

>>4526110
because she was summoned

>>4526110
Well if you read I said "barely" the word doesn't mean not at all. Just fuck off and leave kazoo alone, why do you fuckers always need someone to attack and orbit? Go spend your time drawing instead

I SUMMON THE PENGUIN KWEEN
https://youtu.be/TxoslaxkARI

>>4525960
It depends I guess. I had the same dillema. Stutter said I chose correctly by finishing less ambitious piece rather than submitting very unfinished but more original and showing more potential sketch.

I'll beat all of you hags in this prompt you'll see!

>>4526114
I would never say anything to hurt princess kazoo, I’m just calling you out on your bs.

>>4526124
My bs hm? The fact that you don't understand what the word barely means?

What the fuck did I say about replying to trolls you dumbfucks

>>4526128
Don’t tell me what I can and can’t do.

>>4526126
ignore the pedo

>>4526130
>>4526129

>princess kazoo
so it's this autist

Guys I'm thinking of dropping the challenge. I really don't want to but I'm worried about the amount of coursework I have to do. Its my fault for procrastinating desu but I don't wanna leave the challenge, there won't be something like this for a while.

>>4526131
kill yourself small cock

>>4526133
Drop it
*music plays*

>>4526133
please be tier S-er
jokes aside, set your priorities straight. I'm sure there'll be another one of these tourneys in the future

>>4526136
Wrong guy but let’s not shit up the thread further.

now imma leave, now i remember why i stopped browsing these threads

>>4526146
Bye

>>4526146
See you in an hour

Go draw, you dummies we only have two days.

>>4526116
Saved.

should i sleep or keep drawing
actually on a high tonight but its nearing 7 am

>>4526146
based and leave the threads pilled

>>4526154
Keep drawing

>>4526159
aye aye

>>4526133
D:

>>4526154
i will keep you company if you stay up and draw anon. I need an excuse as well
https://aggie.io/vhcqbk90lh

How many people have WIPs now?

>>4526146
kill yourself

>>4526167
I haven't even started

>>4526136
Based
>>4526172
Cringe

>>4526167
thumbnailing

>>4526167
l-leave me alone..

>>4526177
>replying to yourself to make me look bad

Dad and pathetic

>>4526199

Yikes

>>4526167
I have thumbnails

>>4526167
i have thumbs but can't choose which one looks good :(

>>4526221
Post them here and we'll help you choose, anon!

>>4526221
Dont't post them here, >>4526229 will steal your ideas!

I wish I could join...

>>4526229
>inb4 you give purposely wrong advice to make sure he'll get a lower score than you
Devilish.

>>4526247
Weren't you gonna stop browsing the threads?

>>4526167
I have 5 and they all suck! I'm that meme of the noob tier reworking a shitty turd while pros gloss by and finish in 4 hours

>>4526247
Me too but the admin got offended by a dick joke and he banned me

>>4526266
is he/she trans?

>>4526266
>lAst P0sT bTw

>>4526266
Well now I don't want to do /las/
Thanks for letting me know the mods are stupid idiots so I didn't waste my time with them

>>4526277
lol good riddance

>>4526277
thank you

i always end like this when doing 2 character talking

should i do a profile shot of the 2 or should i draw both like pic?

why do people retweet themselves

>>4526289
for the people on different time zones

>>4526289
different time zones, algorithm, twitters fucky timeline that sometimes burries shit

>>4526277
A new site with lax rules, blackjack, hookers and lolis is being developed. Make sure to join when it's ready.

>>4525661
These are really fucking cool. I might even integrate these into the site as a fun little profile customization feature when I get back on the dev horse after this challenge.

>>4526298
Will it have an admin who doesn’t get offended by a post saying he sucks dick then proceeds to snap and throw a user to the thread lions while pretending to go to bed later but staying up to partake in the tank?

>>4526298
I just want mods that follow rules and don't ban people for hurt feelings, is that really too much to ask?

pedo samefagging himself again
le sigh

>>4526279
>>4526280
Yeah keep sucking her dick I'm sure zhe loves it

>>4526321
Forgot your trip

>>4526321
>Two different people posting one second apart
>Samefag

Lmao pathetic. /Las/ is full of losers.

>>4526321
hi banana

Banana you’re so fucking lucky I deleted those dms of yours less I would have posted the screenshots by now.


Anyway I got stuff to do.

>>4526325
haha everyone who disagrees with you is the admin amirite?

>>4526313
dad forums please

>>4526329
yeah keep calling me banana ;) surprised you still haven't found my real identity
oh and by the way, kill yourself ;)

>>4526329
What did they say? :^)

>>4526333
Be a man and tell me your username lad

>>4526291
>>4526296
thanks, that makes sense now

>>4526332
Haha this pepe is so cute. Saved.

>>4526333
You're the tranny

>>4526338
saucy

>>4526343
Spicy

>>4526338
>>4526342
you're smart enough to know who I am unless you're actually that brain damaged ;^)

Could it be all along smiley poster was Saucy? :)

I store my dirty underwear in ziplock bags so that I can take them out later and sniff them while masturbating....

*phew* finally got that off my chest!

>>4526346
If you don’t want to tell me then fine. You’re probably someone random who thinks I have you on my radar.

>>4526347
keep guessing dumb bitch ;)

drawing eyes on a statue is impossible

>>4526323
>using Discord
laughingwhores.png

>>4526351
haha who cares what you think? Kill yourself ^__^

>>4526357
Love you too.

>>4526352
The fact that he admitted a name makes him badass as fuck. Even if it wasn't saucy, saucy is now badass as fuck.

>>4526358
Kill yourself but I'll kill your dumb dog first ;)

Saucy, keep owning this soda bitch boy.

>>4526359
I don't want saucy to take the credit
Ramune is dumb as fuck after all

>>4526360
Hey now that’s going to far, don’t bring my doggo into this.

>>4526364
lol kill yourself

based (not)saucy

>>4526363
falseflag

>>4526315
if you aren't aware, no such thing exists. We do have an incredibly mentally ill shitposter though who constantly tries to stir up shit because he was banned for a combination of posting loli porn, being a retarded autist stalker, and generally being a gigantic fucking faggot when confronted about it (this is what bumped his month long ban to a perma, starting his autistic shitposting crusade)

>>4526375
you're talking to the pedo itself

>>4526375
Nah I was banned because I said baabaa sucks dick. He even said it in dms.

I’m sure bananas has a copy of everything I said to him still, he’s free to post it.

>>4526382
Oh he won’t do that because then that proves the “meltdown” was manufactured and intended.

Banana sucks nigger dick

>broadcasters keep rerunning the pedo episode

>>4526382
completely irrelevant, even if what you said was true(which is basically 0%), since your spergfit on discord(which was screencapped) is enough to perma you, fag.

>>4526389
It is relevant but keep dodging the facts.

>>4526389
don't bother lolol, he's dumb as shit

I've never seen a 4chan general not eventually get ruined by a single autist that never fails to make the entire thing about himself

>>4526395
Maybe unban me and then things go back to the way they were in 2018

>>4526395
Didn't /agdg/ and some /sp/ generals survive the same sort of thing?

I hope you're all working on your 2nd tourney..

>>4526398
haha good luck with that fag
>dumb cunt's too stupid to make his own site

>>4526398
bros this is such a good deal wtf

>>4526402
Shut up saucy

If you unban him I'm quitting the site.

>>4526409
cmon mention my dad name faget

>>4526410
I know right! it must be so tempting for banana!

>>4526410
no one's unbanning anyone sit the fuck down and work on your tourney

>>4526387
>rerunning episodes
did dad get cancelled?

>>4526417
switch to the tourney channel

>>>/a/202128695

AAAAAAA KAZOOK'S SECOND PIECE IS SO STRONG... IS IT OVER FOR US MERE MORTALS

>>4526491

fuck this shit

>>4526495
so much talent

>>4526502
fuck you

>>4526491
kazoo's gonna destroy us AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAA!!

>>4526495
Hot

>>4526491
Nah man, way too complex for the amount of time I have, and the lighting/painting is gonna be a bitch. Plus I wanna try working more with the lasso tool while building it up for practice so I'm not very confident it's gonna look good by the end.

hey guys, I'm new to this board but this thread got me interested. I will join the challenge soon

I've been drawing every day since the beginning of the month, but now I'm feeling tired and out of inspiration. what to do when that happens? take some time off?

>>4526538
draw something easy, studying your fav artists, do some portrait, figure studies or basic exercises

>>4526538
draw within your comfort zone if you're feeling burned out
> I will join the challenge soon
you can only join those that haven't started yet

>>4526410
never ever getting unbanned
ever.

>>4526596
soda a good boi he dindu nuffin

>>4525714
Thank you so much for the OP pic Shriney, the cloud text looks great

We should have a challenge specifically about going out of your comfort zone, I think that the time crunch and judging of the tourney rewards you staying within in it. I don't mean that it's wrong for the tourney to do that but I just think it'd be cool and different to have a discomfort zone challenge

>>4526640
It's like doing the opposite for me right now. I have to go outside my comfort zone if I want to get good!

>>4526640
we had that challenge already but round 2 would good. A lot of newer daddies missed it

>>4526629
please may we trade comfy plush frogs?

I haven't started yet help

I'm just gonna take a little nap...

*drains your starter juice*

>>4526752
l-lewd

Oh no what have I done.........

>>4526771
sshhh... dads are working hard

now that is fun to color

>when Lava returns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k9bFzgXeXE

>>4526855
LAS is the only reason I made it. I can't thank him enough for what he did, I wish he was still here.

>>4525714
>>4526629
OHMYGOD it says "DAD" in the cloud text

W...wait you guys are already rendering

I'll start tomorrow =w=

>>4526945
gonna pretend I didn't hear that

>>4526892
He always hides the word dad in it

nonononono i got too ambitious lads

>>4526964
Bahahaha

up votes when?

>>4526964
It happened to me on the previous prompt; luckily I've learned better.

>>4526968
Just say my name / give me a comment, Anon!

>>4526975
Theres a new S tier in the house and his name starts with b

>>4526982
Banjokazooie!

>>4526982
>his name starts with b
Silly Anon! Did your hand slip? That's not what my name starts with!

>>4526993
Wait yes actually I did, it starts with an S

>>4527005

There isn't enough TIIIIIIIIMMME

>>4527022
Pro tip: stop playing games and browsing social media like 4chan. I'm installing leechblock as we speak.

Looked at other people's drawings instead of going to bed again...

>>4527010
Soubrette

>>4527022
I've literally been working on the tourney all day

>>4527065
meant for >>4527047

i havent started mine

>>4527050
Fml this artist is the same age as me
The only difference is their mileage is insane. They do 7 to 11 illustrations like this a month. A MONTH

NOTOSH IS GETTING AMBITIOUS AS WELL

Could someone explain creativity & originality category to me?

Kazoo got 4 points for originality for a girl sitting on a fancy chair.
Choob in the originality category praised that it feels like a book cover and gave her 3 points - but what does it have to do with being creative? Shouldn't that be a part of composition score or materials and media score?
Stutter completely ignored how generic it is and just mentioned composition. NicNac gave her 5 points, basically saying that pic related "shows masterful evidence of creativity and originality in the unique style and expression of it's ideas".

Meanwhile jozu did IMO a very original take on a story with 3 pigs and wolf: https://dad.gallery/submissions/61594 . He got lower creativity score than Kazoo.
Auto, Nicnac and Choob think it was just as creative as pic by kazoo. Choob mentioned "I've never seen this story like this in my life. ", but it clearly didn't affect his score. Stutter praised original concept and gave him 3 points, 1 point less than what Kazoo got.

Clearly I don't understand what creativity is about, because to me Kazoo should get 2, maybe 2,5 points for creativity. Could someone explain to me what's going on?

I'm not even memeing and I don't have anything against Kazoo - she's nice and I like her. I just think judges aren't very fair in this category and I'd like to have an explanation - maybe I just misunderstood this whole thing.

>>4527144
Hey anon, let me preface by saying I agree, the composition of Kazook's piece is generic. I adored Jozu's pic as well. But I think what they are getting at with creative here is soul. Kazook's is well put together with a je ne sais quois.

>>4527152
>But I think what they are getting at with creative here is soul.
Could you define "soul" for me?

>>4527144
its almost like the judges have no idea what theyre doing

>>4527152
>>4527154 (me)
I mean, it just looks like "I like it" or "I don't like it" kind of score and that's just...

>>4527144
Pretty sure creative isn't just composition or idea, but you can be creative with your techniques, colors, perspective, etc, etc, creative is probably a catch all for a lot of other things

>>4527154
Some people just have it some people don't. I think kaz is from years of experience and intuition. Jozu's is funny but doesn't have that feeling of completeness and professionalism.
Anyway I'm a soulless tard just trying to explain phenomenon I can't understand myself.

>>4527160
Yeah pretty much, I think that's what it is. It takes skill to make someone like something even after getting all the fundies right.

>>4527152
In that case I think the creativity and originality category is just poory understood by the judges. I really liked Kazoo's piece too but the composition is really generic and played out. I feel like the ceativity/originality category is just basically giving out extra points to pieces judges personally like, since all the highest scorers in creativity/originality were the ones with lots of technical skill, which honestly kinda defeats the point of making it its own category on the rubric.

>>4527161
There's already a category for the rest of those things though. Grading for them twice just seems kind of redundant, and unfair to people with really good ideas but weaker skills like Jozu.

>>4527169
>There's already a category for the rest of those things though.
those are just supposed to grade your competence in fundamentals
creativity is how creatively you used them, they're different things

like maybe my anatomy was perfect, but my character was t-posing
that would be an example of uncreative but technically skilled

>>4527165
If they were looking for completeness and professionalism, why didn't they said so? Pic related. That's what judges were supposed to use in their process and what nicnac told us they'll use.

>>4527166
That's awful.

>>4527169
creativity wasn't a good idea for the rubric but as long as the final scores are good, which I think they were, I'm not going to complain about it.

>>4527181
Getting rid of creativity score would significantly affect tier placements though.

>>4527181
I don't think creativity is an inherently bad thing to grade on but I think the judges should change how they grade it for next round. It makes way more sense to have 0-2 points for creativity than for materials/media.

>>4527179
Lol i knew it was a waste of time to join, especially with shit heads that dont know how to crit.

>>4527187
That's what I'm saying, I think the final tier placements were good and they should stay as they are. I don't care if judges weren't following the rubric if the output was good. I'd rather there be no rubric at all honestly.

creativitylets seething

I think the judges just need to remember to check themselves before giving a skilled artist a high creativity score just because they have the tools to make something presentable.

>>4527195
I got a 4 for my creativity score and I still think the category is poorly thought out.

>>4527175
>like maybe my anatomy was perfect, but my character was t-posing
>that would be an example of uncreative but technically skilled
But you just said it wasn't about idea in >>4527161 ? How to pose a character is very clearly about idea.

>>4527192
I'm not happy about originality, but rest of the scores were pretty OK and I think I improved a bit with their critiques.

>>4527194
>That's what I'm saying, I think the final tier placements were good and they should stay as they are.
Which tier list are you referring to exactly?

shhhhhh relax thread, listen to this real quick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce5mRvkAePU
keep working hard

>>4527197
This.

>>4527202
I'd work harder if I knew what criteria judges are using.

>>4527201
>But you just said it wasn't about idea in >>4527161 (You) ? How to pose a character is very clearly about idea.
I have no clue what you're trying to say

>>4527144
The judges are biased because they’re friendly with kazoo. Don’t take the scores too seriously, it’s all in good fun, but I wish nicnac chose people with no connection to DAD to score the pieces. It would have been more worthwhile to me.

>>4527200
Yeah. “Evidence of creativity” on the grading rubric is such vague criteria. It means nothing on its own. At least the other columns define the principle elements of design and the fundamentals. Without it, the participants don’t know what to strive for and the judges can’t grade objectively.

>>4527201
jozu had a creative concept, but did he have a creative use of composition, posting, character design, color, etc, etc, etc,
idea isn't just composition and your concept

>>4527218
>idea isn't just composition and your concept
YES IT IS
Everything else is already scored with other categories.

>>4527221
you're a retard if you think just your idea should be worth as much as fundies

>>4527218
Even considering this, some of the high scorers were nothing to call home about in those areas. Kaz said her composition was played out herself iirc

>>4527210
anyone can nitpick the application of the rubric. If you think someone was overscored, show what art piece you think deserved a higher total score than it but didn't get it. That way we can actually compare the art holistically.

>>4527225
No, I don't think it should be worth just as much. I think originality category should be 0-2 points only.

I just think you're a fucking smoothbrained mouth breather for asking judges to basically count points for fundamentals twice - once in fundamentals category and again in originality category.

>>4527228
>If you think someone was overscored, show what art piece you think deserved a higher total score than it but didn't get it. That way we can actually compare the art holistically.
I think Kazoo was overscored and jozu pic deserved a higher score but didn't get it.

>>4527225
Nta but if you are restricting your judgment for CREATIVITY only, the judgment should be focused mostly if not all on the CONCEPT and not so much the actual visual representation of it. That’s where fundamentals get scored.

>>4527233
Honestly I think j was overscored too

>>4527233
jozu got a 10.5, roughly middle in the road and pretty appropriate for the quality of work they submitted. Why exactly do you think they deserve more?

>>4527187
If you remove the creativity score and sort by points, notosh is hurt the most (-7 ranks) and VuSta and Panzer are helped the most (+5 ranks)

>>4527241
>Why exactly do you think they deserve more?
Because jozu had a really cool idea.

Art isn't just about looking pretty, it's also about storytelling, having a message, engaging viewer and simply being interesting to look at.

>>4527144
don't sweat it.
i dunno how people would think this whole thing would have fair scoring when the judges aren't very good artists themselves and definitely don't have the range of experience to give good critique. it's just never gonna be a truly solid and fair feeling contest.
if you want good critique just for yourself, you should ask a pro artist that you really look up to and who is in the field which you are aiming for. with that available, there's really no reason to give a shit about DAD tierlists or these kinds of contests, unless it's for the fun and practice of it.

>>4527144
>but it clearly didn't affect his score
I gave jozu a 3 for creativity though, same as kazoo. His idea was really original, but if you read his crit for it, I thought he could have been more creative with making the characters different and more information on what the room is. Kaz did well with designing everything around the focal point including the crows, but I thought could have been more adventurous with the character herself.
I only gave a couple of 4s and 5s across all the entries. From my scoring people got more points for doing things in an unusual way, like bez showing multiple parts of the story in one enclosed space, or jozu, awetos etc doing stuff totally differently to how it's usually portrayed. Original ideas or creative ways to show things. I read source material stories where I could, and some of the dads took a pretty plain text and made it way more interesting.

If you wonder why one judge gave one score and another gave another it's because we're different people and have our own thinking. If you want to pore over consistency I'd check one judge's scores across the board and see if they stayed true to the same thinking. We constantly compared the current piece we're scoring to ones we'd already scored to keep our own judging consistent.

Uh, lamprey, dude, not much time left...

won't be long now

9 more minutes..........

>>4527270
Hey Choob, nice to see you here!
I've read your crit and in this particular category it was rubbish.
>Kaz did well with designing everything around the focal point including the crows
That belongs in the composition category, not originality.

>I only gave a couple of 4s and 5s across all the entries. From my scoring people got more points for doing things in an unusual way, like bez showing multiple parts of the story in one enclosed space, or jozu, awetos etc doing stuff totally differently to how it's usually portrayed
...read again what you just wrote.

First you're saying
>I gave jozu a 3 for creativity
And now:
>I only gave a couple of 4s and 5s across all the entries (...) or JOZU (!), awetos etc doing stuff totally differently to how it's usually portrayed.

>seeing dads who stopped posting signing up for upcoming challenges

>ITT salty dads seething at their low scores
Come on guys, this is for fun and all the judges are on a volunteer basis..

I was waiting for this episode, bias battles.

>>4527270
>If you want to pore over consistency
Consistency isn't the problem; the problem is that judges mistake composition, appeal or other fundamentals for originality.

trash

>>4527317
you are

>>4527317
if this is who I think it is fuck off and let people practice and grow

>>4527293
"I only gave a couple of 4s or 5s across all the entries" means that a 3 was a solid good score from me, which jozu got. His idea was great but not enough to carry everything else. Using (...) to try pretend those two sentences are the same one is lazy. I scored jozu higher than most for his original idea.
If you don't like the crits dude don't read them, don't like the challenge don't do it, that should be obvious.

>>4527311
They were comparing another judges score for another person with my score for a different person, of course there's going to be differences. Scoring didn't vary wildly for the individual judges though, we kept to our same ways of thinking across all entries, that's my point on consistency.

>>4527317
Oh look its the insufferable cunt again :^)

>>4527275
Thank goodness you made it.

>>4527317
shut it banned nigger. We're having a tourney discussion here.

>>4527305
>>ITT salty dads seething at their low scores
>Come on guys, this is for fun
https://www.strawpoll.me/19870918

N-noooo stop arguing about creativity I lack fundies I have to take what I can get in creativity!

I got tiered lower but it's okay this is all just fun and games. It's like you guys lost in a pro competition or something. While jozu's work is pretty clever, it still lacks the other fundies to make it pop. You're acting like everyone should all get high tiered

>>4527342
This

Scores are fine, but I think if someone gets a high score first week and don't submit the next two weeks it's unfair if their high score remain.

Suggestion: add an effort score, between -0.5 to 1.
You post in a round you get +1, you don't post you get -0.5 from your current score

>>4527270
Could you explain why
>designing everything around the focal point
was important when judging how original was Kazoo? That seems like composition thing to me.

>>4527354
if you enter all rounds you get the badge otherwise you dont

>>4527324
>I scored jozu higher than most for his original idea.
No, you didn't. You scored him just as high as Kazoo who didn't have an original idea.

My god... bez... bez is just good. That light and form.

>>4527360
I'm talking about tiers

In short I only need to post one good art to keep a high tier. Its like if a Olympian gymnast only goes for one round and gets gold. Whereas someone else may have a mix of good and bad pieces which will change their average.
Seems unfair to me

>>4527319
>>4527322
>>4527325
>>4527329
seriously speaking, weren't we talking about how banana didn't need to be white knighted like thirty threads ago? why are so many people leaping to defend banana from lil soda?

>>4527405
everyone likes banana
no one likes lilramune

>>4527270
>If you wonder why one judge gave one score and another gave another it's because we're different people and have our own thinking.
I thought judges were following some clear criteria, maybe even clearer than what's in pic from >>4527179.
But it's alright if it's more of an intuitive process, I'm still thankful for your time and crits

I WANT.... DRAMA!

>all this bitching about the tournament
I don't like the way things were scored either, but I don't think this complaining is really going to accomplish anything other than discouraging people.
Why don't you try to come up with suggestions on what to do for future rounds/tournaments instead of this empty criticism?
A few people have suggested stuff, but I haven't seen any consistent push for any real solutions.

>>4527335
IMO this poll is stupid. Talking about the tournament is fine, obviously, but people are talking about it like they're somehow entitled to some sort of perfect scoring system, rather than seeing it as a volunteer effort that they should be grateful for and try to help improve.

>>4527406
I like lilramune

>>4527364
Do you know what "higher than most" means? Most people got less than a 3.

>>4527356
Sure, she was more creative with the composition problems. There were compositions which scored ok on the technical score but weren't particularly original, or lacked creativity in leading the eye etc, like Echo's for example. His spiked peaks helped a bit but overall things were pretty flat and it's generic. The spiky ice things feel like a halfhearted effort to lead the eye to the castle when he could have done much more, and Kaz's things with the crows, lighting, branches etc all carefully bringing the eye back in were more creative solutions to that kind of problem.
Echo scored higher than jozu on composition and technical skills, but lower on originality of overall idea.

>>4527407
We all followed the rubric but just worked through stuff ourselves, not seeing each others stuff until the end. Like for the materials score I had 1 as my middle ground score, meaning you need impressive skills and workflow to bump up to 2, but some other judges has 2 as their default and would take away from that yknow.

>>4527410
Yes yes open wide

>>4527412
you're no one

>>4527418
Hey, I coined that joke. You can’t steal it.

>>4527421
What are you talking about? No-one coined that joke.

>>4527425

You know what I’m talking about. I can go back in the archive and dig up my own post guaranteed I was the first one.

small penis being autistic again

unless mathias is a judge im not joining the tourney

>>4527432
>>/ic/thread/S4324252#p4327132

See but I used the same joke for years I can go back much further

>inane babble
Gentlemen...

>>4527436
it's closed, you literally can't join

>>4527436
Removing nicnacs scores makes it more accurate I found. He's painfully biased

>>4527415
Fair enough. Thanks for your time, Choob!

Sticky that redline on kazook's submission neglects the fact that her original perspective has it resting against the walls.

>>4527448
I'm fairly certain you made this post thinking of a few pieces in particular and not everyone, so just cut to the chase and name the ones you thought were biased.

>>4527459
It won’t be themselves because they didn’t bother entering I bet

>>4527405
I'm not even defending banana. His hateboner for the admin makes it very obvious who he is and his autism is leaving skidmark trails everywhere

>>4527467
Kek, I would've liked to pay a couple of Indians on fiverr to rate the drawings

This is just the tierlist argument all over again

>>4527471
So people aren’t allowed to criticize the admin because he’s the admin.

>>4527480
You don't get it, the tourney IS the tier list. Hence why people are challenging some of the score system, especially the creativity one

Just lower the creativity score, problem solved

>>4527484

I agree.
Change materials mastery to 0-5.
Then change creativity 0-2.
You can then give credit to /beg/s with really unique concepts without it skewing the score too much, and give minor penalization to /int/s and /exp/s who didn't come up with anything that unique.

>>4527486
I think this is the best solution.

>>4527486
So much this.

>>4527436
lowkey this. The judges have like zero credentials save for maybe autoreiv.

>>4527482
I'm saying i only care about telling the nignog to go kill himself. It makes my job easier since he always outs himself in this general everyday.

>>4527486
I agree. And make it clear it's about idea, and not about "creatively solving composition problems" or some other bullshit like that.

Inno would be a nice addition to the judges

>>4527501
>why are you so obsessed with the negativity against the admin
>I’m obsessed with negativity against ramune

Ladies and gentlemen give it up for the genuine dumbass on my left corner.

>>4527486
Why don’t you just redo all the crits yourself then?

>>4527507

Because I'm not qualified to do so.

>>4527509
None of the current judges are either, go on do it

>>4527512

>>4527507
Don't be so salty, Choob.

>>4527515
Yeah you’re really should just stay out of judging.

>>4527515
>>4527512
>>4527518
exactly
so yeah, i'm not qualified.

>>4527486
I thought the begs are shafted in the current system too.

>>4527520
Just kys already

>>4527509
I wanna see what an anon that cares so much has to say about the scores.

>>4527507
Noone said go redo the crits here. People are saying CHANGE the scoring system. which has valid reasonings.

This is a learning experience for everyone after all, so why not continually improve it as we go along?

>>4527527
inb4 everyone score themselves higher

This isnt even a pro tourney but I enjoy the overall experience despite getting tiered lower. You guys shouldn't take the scores too seriously. I learned a lot and was able to push myself outside my comfy zone with a 48 hr deadline

>>4527317
>Nana learning how to use a horizon line

>>4527537
If you're this tone deaf to critic maybe you shouldn't be a judge

>>4527557
If only he can learn to use a rope.

>>4527506
>>4527515
>>4527520

I’m leading to believe it was the admin this whole time telling me to kill myself. So if it is I’ll just take up the role I’m given and give you what you deserve because I’m not your emotional punching bag.

https://www.strawpoll.me/19871497/

why not remove scores all together, the comments are whats valuable

>>4527576
Good idea. If majority want things to change, then I am sure something could be arranged.

>>4527582
Because it's a tier tourney. Scores = Tiers.

>>4527583
This
The previous scores should be changed to the new rubric too, materials and creativity

my only decent score was one in creativity... don't take it from me...

>>4527507
That'd take fuckin forever.

>>4527516
I'm a bit salty at the vidya I just played, but that post wasn't me.

>>4527546
As long as you got something useful from the crits and do a little better this week it was worth it.

>>4527599
oof

>>4527573
Noo don't give up I'm sure you'll find out who i am :^)

>>4527599
one out of five is pretty bad anon

how do you deal with hating everything you draw?
sadly, the ability to notice mistakes grows many times faster than the ability to draw well and correct those mistakes.
practice used to be fun, but now it's torture seeing how badly i fuck up

>>4527604
>vidya
Wachu playin

>>4527615
you never stop hating your art. you will always notice mistakes

>>4527618
I tried being healer on OW. Big mistake, other people are such cowardly tanks that they never push.

>>4527619
You'll always see mistakes, and worse, know how much better the idea was in your head. Won't always hate it though I think.

>havnt even started

>>4527608

I know it’s you banana because of the things you said in the past to me about mind games. You were last on my list ironically but thinking about it now you can’t defend yourself with your art so the only thing you can jab me with is my IRL.

If you notice I never attack your wellbeing but your art as that’s not my style. But because you want to make everything about your mental health I’ll give you what you want.

>>4527573
>>4527629
lmao

>>4527633
Harm yourself :)

>>4527629
I know you're just trying to find out who I am by baiting banana just like how I know every banana bitterposting is all coming from you but yeah good luck with that ;^^)

>>4527651

Kill yourself (-:

>>4527317
i would not go as far as to say trash but it is very bad

>>4527654
aawww so sweet ^^ I'll kill your dog first, baby

>>4527660
I’ll fill your head with lead before you come near my dog, codemonkey.

Whose second tourney piece are you most looking forward to seeing?

>>4527665
Notosh, he seems to be working very hard on his pieces.

>>4527665
from the wips I've seen, echo's looks interesting, bez looks like he's going to knock it out of the park again, j's looks very tasty, and I can't wait to see kaz's finished
of users in general, meru drew a nice statue yesterday, peltingfury's shapes are very nice, and I'd like to see pink and juta go harder on entries this time

>>4527663
last week it's dare, now you think I'm banana again? lmao sweet dreams babe Imma bout to head out

>>4527673
Kill yourself banana.

>>4527665
peltingfury, bez, kazoo, nessie, and konsui

>>4527665
is it selfish to say my own? im not expecting to rise much in tiers but im really happy working on it and the thought of finishing it is exciting

>>4527665
crud, lamprey, awetos, sugarbeetle

>>4527665
>>4527722
Mine too. I have a better idea this time compared to the first prompt

>>4527723
sug isn't participating this round I believe

>>4527732
wack

>>4527723
crud's first one was amazing, I wish they'd do more finished stuff

all i want in life is a short power bottom twink who will treat me like shit and not reciprocate any of my love

>>4527756
Go to bed already

>>4527756
Sometimes I want to go to Gensokyo just for the possibility that this might exist there.

Seagulls sometimes deviate from their normal squawks and make a sound like a human screaming, and occasionally they do it in the middle of the night. So every once in a while I hear AAAHHHH and I'm startled but then I realize it was a fucking seagull again. Winged Spawn of Satan

*inhales*

>>4527793
I'M GAY

>>4527790
Look up mountain lions screaming, sounds like someone being murdered in the woods

>>4527793
I like pigs

>>4527047
omg I literally installed Leechblock like an hour ago kek

>>4527790
God I love seagulls

>>4527790
asshole seagull once stole a battered hotdog from my god damned hands just after I had taken my first bite.
fuck all seagulls.

>>4527790
I visited Cali once, and I had never interacted with seagulls before, so I thought it'd be cool to feed them a tortilla chip I had in the car.
As soon I held the tortilla chip they reenacted that scene from the slab episode of courage the cowardly dog with the swarm.

>finally finished lining after an entire day
it sucks being a renderlet

>tfw still haven't started

>>4527864
Plenty...

>>4527756
Man, so close but
>treat me like shit and not reciprocate any of my love
Only for coom.
Have to have some kind of semblance of normalcy otherwise right?

when's the next lascast?

>>4527955
never ever

>>4527955
Didja ever check yer drangus? Why didn't you think of that dummy!

T minus 18 hours to liftoff

>>4527978
Wuh huzzah wuzzah that's a lot of drangus

you get to steal one ability from one dad.
which dad and which ability do you choose?

>>4527989
sugar's soul

>>4527989
My art bf's ability to be obsessively tsundere yet aloof and still makes room for the occasional meltdown. It's all cute really.

>>4527989
vusta's horniness

>>4527989
j's shotas

i hate this prompt

fuck man, i don't think ill be able to finish in time, why did i do this fuck AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4527503
He was supposed to do a crit stream the other day but he never posted the link to his stream.

plenty of time

>>4527665
>the dropped names were Notosh, echo, bez, j, kaz, meru, peltingfury, pink, juta (who doesn't participate, kek), nessie, konsui, crud, lamprey, awetos and sugarbeetle
Out of those names only konsui was below B tier.
What's his secret? It's clearly not technical skills - he's below average, he's only C-tier.
How do I make even my wips interesting enough that people want to see more?

>>4528242
Soul

>>4528242
>how do I make it interesting enough
tell a story with your illustrations

>>4528242
Soul and feet

12 more hours!
Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdGEwovstIc&app=desktop

>>4528363
thanks i needed this

>>4528109
I hate your mom

>>4528379
I told her and now she's upset
is this what you wanted???? was this your end game???????????

>>4528387
Yes.

>>4528242
>being in the same tier as all this trash
God, it's pissing me off. I won't let that happen again.

>>4528398
Hope you place lower :^)

>>4527805
>sounds like someone being murdered in the woods
Rabbit screams can be pretty terrifying, especially if you didn't realize they made sounds like that.

>>4525743
This makes me chuckle every time I open this thread.

i love you gradient maps!

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4528460
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAA

>>4528464
>>4528460
aaaiiieeeee

>>4528467
Ayiyiyiyi don't free the butterfly

>>4527989
arturo's consistency and artsiness

>>4528242
Reminder, Jason scored the same points as Goblin, lonku and konsui so it makes no sense for him to be in B tier.

>>4527989
purin's sexy and cute men

>>4528490
Someone's gotta take the heat

>Goblin's
god I wish that were MEEE

>Hoppy's
god I wish that were me

>>4528263
This made me think about the discussion about the creativity section, do you think “story-telling” is a necessary part of a good illustration? I think it goes without saying, drawings that are just x character standing on a white background would get low creativity, because it doesn’t tell us anything.

TEN HOURS LADS

>>4528546
That depends. A character floating in white space still counts if it has great shapes and design

>>4528564
FUCK FUCK FUCK ITS SO UGLY MY COMPOSITION IS SO FUCKEDD
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4528569
See... this is where the creativity section gets muddled again.
Is it creativity in /concept/, or creativity in /design/? "Good shapes and design" are something that can easily get placed in with fundies or composition score.
I think both are valid ways to critique a piece, but I think the whole reason anons where getting buttflustered over this criteria was just because the judges flip flopped between giving more points for "creative" visual communication and giving points for a good /idea/.

>>4528528
I'm... in love with goblin's work now wtf

>>4528569
>>4528576
Yes. Being "creative in visual communication" to me is how normie- and trope-like the layout is. Points for "good idea" would reward how rare a concept, a thought process is.
E.g. "subversion of movie poster look" vs. "incorporated critique on housing crisis and meta comment on /ic/ board".

>already know everything the judges are going to ream me about
>too unskilled to fix them
aw fug.

>>4528648
Same energy

nice peaceful thread today

>>4528242
I think I mixed up juta with Defunct. Sorry

>>4528747
quiet thread means daddies hard at work!

plenty of -

>>4528756
...
https://youtu.be/rfelvI_ikf4

>>4528758
checked

7 hours 45 minutes

hmm plenty.. plenty mmhmm..

I want to put the statues in everyday situations but all of them are large as fuck and it would look awkward

>>4528788
make them battle like kaiju

Choob is a smoothbrained retard for givingcreativechad jozu the same score as to creativitylet Kazoo.

Ability to solve composition problems creatively is a part of composition skill set. It's impossible to show this kind of creativity without already having some composition skills.

>>4528799
Why are you stirring up shit again. Jozu and Choob already talked about it on the discord

choob is based and their comments are really insightful and well thought through

>>4528799
maybe if you want a better score you should get better at art

>>4528801
Thread was getting slow. And I still think everything related to solving composition should be in the composition category.

>>4528805
I'm trying. Luckily rest of choobs crits were decent; it's only creativity category where he dropped ball.

>>4528801
I bet it's someone falseflagging to try and make jozu look bad

>>4528801
>Jozu and Choob already talked about it on the discord
Really? And what was conclusion of that discussion?

>>4528810
Thread was getting slow because I deliberately did not post until now.

Seems like you retards love drama, have fun, I’m done with this generals community.

>>4528815
Why don't you check the discord and find out

So it was the non member him stirring up shit again

>>4528820
Oh fuck off >>4528818 is my only post today.

Sage

>>4528821
>saging a thread 150 posts after bumplimit on page 8

>>4528821
nah you fuck off fag we know you're still lurking
>>4528823
he's stupid

7 hours left. I think it's time to start already.