/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Here's my shitty artwork again.

I don't know how to fucking do poses nor muscles nor nothing help

For some reason it looked good for me before I took a photo. Now it looks messed up and I can't unsee it. Is it worth to fix or it's better to move on and redo it later?

>>4496725
p..paulina?

>>4496756
I'm glad you're having fun but your (((shading))) is atrocious.
Just copy some anime you like to get some different ideas on how to approach it.

Nothing wrong with drawing trannies. The Questionable Content guy, an excellent, progressive artist, has made millions doing it.

op images like this make me scared of posting my beg scribbles since it might be used as the next op image to make fun of my poor skills

>>4496810
Then improve, so something like that won’t happen.

tried drawing my own stuff without references....
Any kind of critique would be appreciated

>>4496774
why not try it again?

>>4496819
you draw small heads

>>4496843
how big should they be?

>>4496819
the fuck, are their waist just below their chest? lol

>>4496725
>not using this for the OP
YOU HAD ONE JOB

im trying to rotate the helmet on the left forward, but I'm having trouble picturing what it would be like.
for context my goal is to have the helmet on someone with the pose on the right but at a 3/4 angle

>>4496847
I was going for a belt up to the stomach sort of thing(?). y'know old style...

>>4496861
nigger i said waist not belt

>>4496766
>>4496769
Not beg

>>4496861
i like that style a lot anon

>>4496863
Could you point out the wrong part for me?
I drew some blue lines to show the body behind the clothes

>>4496865
wrong >>4496766 is in fact beg. git out

>>4496810
If anything you should be honored that your work gets posted as the OP because it appealed to someone

How do you make sure that the eyes you are drawing is looking at the same direction as the eyes you are copying? I can never get it quite right.

>>4496882
>woe is me I'm so bad because my art is worse than that artist with 100k subs, amirite fellow begs
No you

>>4496865
What's beg? My rendering might be halfway decent but the pose is really terrible, let me get advice at least

>>4496879
Heads too small, hands too small. Perspective issues on forearms of both figures. Belt on the guy is too high up his hips are incorrectly placed as well. Belts don't work like that and it gives a bad impression over all considering the rest of the alignment of the person is all in one direction with very little twisting.

Fix belt, fix head size, fix hands.

>>4496865
pyw

>>4496865
t. beg

>>4496822
I fear I could stuck with drawing the same thing for weeks. Maybe it's better to move on and draw the next thing and redraw this later.

>>4496905
Think op-pic but with Loomis construction lines and no shading

>>4496903
>Fix belt, fix head size, fix hands.
got it, thanks

>>4496898
damn guess i gotta leave. bye /beg/

is this gesture drawing

>>4496921
Drawing figures without reference at this stage is bad because you cannot evaluate major errors like a head being too small.

It's a good effort but it should show you it's time to go back and draw a handful of pages of figures from reference until these proportions are burned into your head and you can tell a head is too small from any perspective.

You don't need to draw a head from every angle, but you need to draw a sufficient amount of heads in correct proportion to the rest of the body.

>>4496959
>until these proportions are burned into your head and you can tell a head is too small from any perspective
not that anon, but is this really how it works? sorry, but can you post your work?

>>4496959
did I usually have this problem with heads?
these are pics with reference...

>>4496855
This seems to be too much of a trolling attempt

>>4496970
Yes, it is very prominent in the first two. Third one has a slightly smaller head and too small of hands.

Put it side by side with reference, or overlay it on top and set it at half opacity.

>>4496981
>>4496828

>>4496981
Proportions are all jank, head is too large. Use Loomis.

Am i suppose to pay attention to the empty space of the figure like the shape like the legs or the arms

>>4497005
yes. negative space is very important

>>4496968
>>4496970

If the anon can post the refs, you'll have your answer.

>>4496986
>>4496968
i'm asking because if i can learn how to draw a believable figure from imagination just from drawing from reference, that'd be great.
i'd just like confirmation of that-- from you posting your work :)

>>4496943
plz somebdy

>>4496943
They look like 30s gestures. Try making less lines but think more where you put them (and have more control over each line).
Also try doing 1, 2 and 5 min gestures.

What's the magic formula

Who is the goto for learning about gesture, how to do it well and exgerrate it

>>4496943
I love how artists crabbed people into thinking that drawing hundreds of these retarded stick figures is actually good practice lmao

>>4497061
this time i tried 1 minute gestures, also I tried applying construction to some of the poses as well

>>4497093
Pyw

>>4497093
with that way of thinking ur ngmi lol

>>4497097
Don't rush and try to make your lines cleaner. It also seems that your line weight is all over the place, so it might be easier to start with pencil and paper.
In any case, just keep at it.

Is there any fundie thats more annoying than perspective?
>line off 2 degrees
>whole thing looks fucked

>>4497124
just draw boxes

>>4497111
will do, thanks. the line weight on my tablet feels super sensitive should I be lowering the range or something

I wish I could stop second-guessing my art and trying to fix it and just move onto the next piece.

>>4497128
I did that before i learned jacked shit

>>4497098
pyw pyw

I made this, I feel like I'm not learning nothing about it.

>>4497039
welcome to /beg/
>post something good
no (you)s
>post something bad
10 (you)s telling you you're shit, read Loomis
>post something amazing
12 (you)s telling you you're shit, read Loomis
/beg/ is terrible. I don't blame people making threads for critique on single drawings.
I like that head. It looks nice. Keep it up!

>>4497220
not that anon but i don't find it very helpful being told something is good

>>4497213
The shoulders/neck area looks quite off. I think you've just learned what you should study next.

>>4497220
>WUAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THEY DIDNT LICK MY CLIT FOR MY 10 MIN SCRIBLLES,THEY DIDNT JERK ME OFF FOR MY POLISHED TURD
>WAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>4497140
Draw us some box porn!

>>4497220
I am flattered that you think that of my sticky note work doodles but I never mind being ignored

>>4497229
sometimes i feel like it is needed in some way, but too much praise is bad, especially at shitty levels. it fosters a kind of circlejerk that i personally am extremely opposed to

finally finished this after posting it like 2 threads ago

>>4497245
Thanks buddy

>>4497197
im not trusting anyone making a claim anymore until they post their work

Trying to force myself to learn to draw hair, tips are welcome. Also I'm not sure if the eyes are on the same level.

>>4497331
Why did you remove the gesture from the arm she is resting on? You turned it into a straight line, way less interesting.

2nd attempt

>>4497385
thought the angle looked weird when i drew him

can i get good just trying to learn from references, because i've looked at so many books and they trigger the fuck out of me. they honestly make me hate art.

>>4497363
There are two parts to aligning the eyes. You can use cheekbones to align them horizontally. Vertical alignment in a 3/4 view needs reference, draw-through, and practice. What I often see is the eye that is the closest to you is too far from the nose bone, and the further eye is too close to the nose bone. Vilppu has a video addressing this in his skull anatomy I think.

Don't draw individual strands of hair. Draw masses of tone that are like twisted, elongated boxes, and then blend them into eachother as per your reference. Look for the highlight in the hair as if it's a ball, and blend these imaginary boxes in towards that as well. Look at neoclassical sculpture of how they handle hair. It's a good place to start.

Eyelashes are fine as a single block of tone, just make sure you get the break planes right because they have to align with bones around the orbital cavity.

It's coming along well. I like how you're curving the lips to suggest volume.

>>4497391
truh answer: no ,hell no
meme answer: it doesnt matter if you dont have talent
crab answer: of course anon and dont listen to the fundiecucks

>>4497391
>they honestly make me hate art.
Why?

>>4497391
>>4497391
Of course you can, books are shortcuts to the acquisition of knowledge. You'll just have to grind more to reach the same place had you read a few books.

The meme answer from crabs is "no, hell no"

>no you

Yay or nay?
>Inb4 feet
Yeah I didn't wanted to do that lmao

>>4497398
Thank you very much, I took a screenshot of your reply, it's been a while since I got one this detailed. Your advice about the use of sculpture as reference for hair is very intresting, never thought of that.

why is /beg/ so full of attention whores now? does literally every post need three (you)s to satisfy the vulva envy of a young anon

>>4497424

> (1.92 MB, 2250x3101)

*sïgh*
nay until you learn to read

>>4497391
Draw what you want nigga. Learn from those you like.

>>4497430
Lmao

Self portrait.

>>4497438
You look like a tranny

>>4497414
it's depressing to approach art as memorising hard and fast rules and then executing them. to me that's not what art is, that's not what the beauty of 'nature' is.
i also don't want to draw boxes for 6 hours. i'm not happy when i'm doing it. so if there's a way to get a sense of space / perspective while having fun, i'd rather do that.
>>4497416
>>4497410
well.
>>4497432
i guess that's what i was going to do anyway, even if i asked.

>>4497427
as long as theres people dumb enough to feed them yeah, the thing is that retards can't overlook the chance to feel superior to other people even if they know is bait, on a chinesse pozzed forum no less.

>>4497427
yes.

Round three

>>4497441
>i also don't want to draw boxes for 6 hours. i'm not happy when i'm doing it. so if there's a way to get a sense of space / perspective while having fun, i'd rather do that

you don't want to get good that's a fact, you are not here to improve just to feel BETTER about yourself/your work.

>>4497440
Thank you.

>>4497427
>posts on artwork/critique
>wants critique on an artwork
how DARE they!?

>lol do this
>lol dont do that waste of time
>dont listen to anon
>do listen to anon
this place is full of misinformation on the same scale as youtube comments. next thing my dumbass will just believe the art equivalent of 5g causes the virus because of one of you assholes. aaaaa why can i never get a consistent answer

>>4497450
by god that's evolution ur getting somewhere. eyes are still a little off tho

>>4497465
this is /beg/ full of other begs. ur better off going to art school than getting a pro to see ur work here looool

>>4497479
>art school
anon i dont want to go into debt to mr shekelstein becuase i want to draw anime tiddies

>>4497441
I think I know what you're getting at.

Doing boxes is easy and gives people a false sense of accomplishment so it's a good way to pretend to draw while not engaging yourself at all.

The "250 boxes challenge" is a relatively recent thing. It's pathological and seemingly autistic. I am not sure what kind of a mind actually thinks that's a good way for people to start.

There isn't anywhere in history where students were asked to draw hundreds of boxes or ellipses as introductory lessons in drawing. Not a single school out there has ever taught this way.

Someone will point out to me some example drawings of boxes, cylinders, spheres. These are to get students to understand light and volumes in space. These are tonal, not linear.

Calligraphy is the exception where the exactitude is mandatory and has to be rehearsed since the work is done in ink and cannot be fixed.

>that's not what the beauty of 'nature' is.

If you think this way then you can open up any of the texts that teach you observation skills to draw things in front of you, and you can capture nature/reality as you see it.

It's not easy, but if centuries of artists doing it day in day out seems to point to anything, it might not be such a bad idea.

You've got Harold Speed's book on drawing, Solomon J. Solomon's book, you've got Keys to Drawing. Stay away from anything that looks architectural (ie. autistic) and go for observational and organic drawing.

>>4496786
>(((shading)))
What do you think those paranthesis mean?

>>4497450
based, I wish I had the patience to redo the same thing over and over, that's a great way to improve.

animals

>>4497491
yeah thats the joke cuz both are huge wastes of time. maybe if ur lucky you can land a pro to mentor u.

>>4497479
this
a beg thread would only be a good idea if there were a few professionals here to teach. In here, beginner teaches beginner and everything revolves around in circles, and most don't get anywhere until they quit.

>>4497517
That's what makes it good though. The only ones who survive the crabs of /beg/ are the one who are truly going to make it.

>>4497499
He's saying (((they))) are atrocious

>>4497532
>crabs are good

>>4497505
Soulful (and disturbing)

>>4497504
I had a thing for doing it a year back and haven't lost it.

>>4497495
i do want to be able to draw from imagination.

when i said what you quoted, what i meant was that the universe ('nature') isn't a series of rules -- it's something chaotic, beyond definition. what i find beautiful about the world is that.

it's not that i don't want to improve. i get that it sounds stubborn, and probably it's just 'don't tell me what to do', but ideally i want to learn how to draw on my terms, not on someone else's. it just feels like they're getting in my way.

Hello everyone.
I just picked up my loong lost art of drawing (see pic for my progress today). I haven't been drawing since my early teens.

I'm currently using a sharpie and calc. block along with a black ink sharpie to fill the lines.

What i want to learn is to draw people with the possibility to scan and keep going in photoshop, for this i assume i need other material, like special red/blue (?) pencils together with different types of ink, i assume.

My goal is basically to broaden my ability to make proper art out of my scetches. If you help me out i might actually post my first scetches from today, that im not proud of at all :D

is career advice allowed here?

Is it cheating if I draw lines on the reference?
I know I can't physically do it but on digital It makes it more easier to draw face traits.

>tfw can't decide a name to use online.

>>4497505
cont.

>>4497602
Scary but good

>>4497573
I like you friendo

>>4497608
why the swastika

>>4497611
I was inspired! Unfortunately the uniform she's wearing isn't SS so it does indeed look out of place.

>>4497614
That's a nose!

>>4497607
ty bud

>>4497618
About a week worth's of work, for sure it's improved. So glad. So much more work to do though.

Thanks to the anon who gave me feedback and redlined my shit,

>>4497589
If you can't tell that his head is angled more towards the right, then yes, it is cheating.

>>4497589
I'd image it's the opposite of cheating as long as you give it a few shots before you do it and compare.

>draw with pen they said
>dont notice my fuckups until after the drawing is done
>drawing ruined
What is the point of this if i cant fix it

>>4497702
It's about paying attention to detail. Make sure you are aware of every stroke you're making.

>>4497598
>online name
anything other than a randomly generated name or your own name is cringe.

>>4497728
Guess I'll choose from these.

>>4497738
Go with a Latin word for what your character will do or be.

>>4497745
latin sounds pretty fucking pompous

>>4497738
Here's one for you anon.
cinaede

Please tell me if making a career switch to freelance artist is wise or foolish.

I am a man in my mid 20's living in the USA.
Until recently, my career goal looked to be a machine learning researcher in either academia or industry, but I'm not sure anymore.
In 2018, I started a PhD in Machine Learning. That year, the undercurrent of depression, which had been whispering in the background for years, overflowed, and my mental health crumbled. I recall sitting on a couch all day and waiting to die.
I was a broken man.
Something had to change, so I took a leave of absence last year.
I have been convalescing at home, but I don't know what to do with my life.
I can't see myself being happy going back to school. I rarely enjoyed the day-to-day PhD life since the research my advisor's grant funded wasn't of my interest.
But I don't see myself liking a machine learning or even code monkey job either. My depression fucked my head so badly I can barely remember anything I learned from my 7 years of college. I almost never have fun programming.
I always had an interest in art, but I never seriously practiced.
In skill, I am the /beg/ of /beg/s.
Despite how bad I am at drawing, I really do want to improve, and, with no obligations, I have unlimited time to practice.

What do you think I should do?

I just drew this

>>4497751
Not as retarded as Gnogrant, or Granophelia.

>>4497760
me gnogrant, me draw box

Started drawing three years ago but I took a little time off so I only have about a week’s worth of experience I’m trying to master the face before moving on to the body hoping to became a famous comic artist because I am Asian and trans so I my work is important

>>4497764
better than 99% of /ic/

>>4497764
not /beg/

>>4497756
If you have unlimited time to do something you enjoy and may be successful in, why not do it?

quads

>>4497756
>asking for art career advice
>in the thread specifically for people who dont have art careers yet

>>4497756
>What do you think I should do?
I think you should do whatever maximizes your happiness in the long run

One thing that's important for that, imo, is being good at what you do. So maybe practice drawing and see if you can be good enough to make a living out of this? If after drawing for a while your drawings still look like shit, maybe try something else, but definitely try drawing first (try hard)

>>4497756
Asking for life advice on 4chan isn't smart.

Here are my two cents however. I'm also in my mid-twenties and I sort of don't like my job sometimes so I can somewhat sympathize.

The problem with drawing as a career is that it'll take two-three years at a minimum if you're new to the scene to be able to turn any sort of a profit on it. This is a choice that should have been made while going to college or in high school. Consider pursuing drawing as a hobby to break through the monotony of the day. Perhaps think of it as a way to leave your mark on the world some day and inspire people. Maybe one day you could even quit your job and pursue it full time.

That's the type of attitude that I find is optimal for people in our situation.

>>4497757
Guess we have our next OP image.

>>4497796
I wish OP's would only post the good stuff, maybe that'll be a fun game for everyone to try hard to get their images up.

>>4497738
This is not what I meant by randomly generated. This is even worse.

I'd be interested in having someone redline this. I know the twist and proportions are off but I'm just having a hard time seeing it. Laying out the abs is killing me and it took forever for me to shape the pecs.

Ignore the face, I'm a furry and it will be replaced by a dog head in due course.

>"why would I redline something that is clearly incomplete? finish your work"
I'm trying to avoid turd polishing.

>>4497602
prog

>>4497804
what kind of joke is this supposed to be

>>4497813
I just think he wants people to question why he drew a bulge on the guy,

>>4497804
You never draw abs in the gesture phase, maybe the middle line but no more detail than that.
It's decent but you squished his traps and neck.
Also arms should be a bit longer.
In the gesture drawing thread you need to ignore the contours of the body and just focus on RELATIONS. Where is the right elbow positioned relative to the chest, Where is the left foot placed on the ground compared to the head, etc. etc.
You only worry about relations and proportion, you only draw with long lines, NO DETAILS, no contour.
Once you have a base going and that you are confident that all the body parts are placed where they should be, only then you go in and add more detail.

>>4497450
>>4497504
Damn you for the encouragement

>>4497827
Thanks anon.

I think my process might be fucked because I start by trying to identify their skeleton and then replicate it, so what I've drawn isn't a "gesture drawing" I don't think. I guess I should go and do that?

I've been fucking around on and (mostly) off for two years but I've only recently started actually giving a shit about getting better.

>>4497813
>>4497819
The bulge is just me fucking around after half an hour of wasted effort.

>>4497841
gesture drawing doesn't have to be drawing the skeleton. You can go straight into drawing the body, as long as you keep the lines simple and long, pay attention to relations and proportions, you'll be doing it right.
There are many ways to gesture draw, choose whatever feels better for you.

>>4497849
Thanks again, anon. I think I have a clearer idea of where I need to focus my practice on now.

>>4497773
>>4497785
>>4497790
Glad to hear some outside advice.
I guess was overthinking things because the answer was, in retrospect, obvious: practice drawing for a few months then make a decision based on how much I improved.

>>4497756
Are you sure 4chan is good for your mental health?
I think anyone, with the right approach, can become good at art. Reading the sticky might help you. Start with it today and you'll learn something, I guarantee you. Proko is a bit of a meme on /ic/, but his tutorials have helped me become better at art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74HR59yFZ7Y
As a person who has struggled with severe depression in the past, I wish you the best.

>>4497833
Did you do lineart on any of these? The faces seem to be very inconsistent proportion wise. last one looks very masculine because of how square the jaw and chin is.

Feedback on my loomis?

>>4497903
Feet.

>>4496896
negative space within the eye itself. It needs a shift to the right somewhat.

>>4497913
I should probably move on to some full body stuff, ahhh. Good stuff anon. I want a cute nazi waifu

Fucking hell, i seem like the only way i learn to draw is just keep to brute force tard trying with until by the off chance it somehow works. Since i dont seem to really think effectively. No wonder i find learning this shit difficult

>>4497757
Another quick one. The Punisher when he was in Vietnam.

Drawing is harder than it looks.

>>4497897
First was original sketch 2nd two where diffrent attempts to fix that sketch, the 4th is starting over from scratch with line art with no curves, trying to get the proportions right

>>4497918
If you're this anon >>4497903
The you should probably actually finish your loomis, but it's looking pretty good so far. Post ref if you're using one.

Why the fuck are hands so hard to draw?

>>4497949
I feel like I make the most gains with drawing hands (and any other body part) when I just stop trying to get it right and start exaggerating the features.
Keep practicing you're getting there.

>>4497934

>>4497972

>>4497984

>>4497974
Improvement, push forward bud.

>>4497984
How did you get those shadows on the floor? What brush did you use?

holy fuck how the fuck do i draw this shit

for whoever made this general edition transphobic
please don't ever start another general again
thanks

>>4498053
d'late tranney

>>4497987
Looks like my aunt

>>4498053
you have to admit it does look like a tranny though
t. reel tranny

>>4498004
Just the graphite brush in krita. It's direction sensitive, so the positioning of the pen matters.

>>4498061
I'm sorry to hear that.

>>4497759
kino

>>4498053
>REEEEEEEEEE
k.

>>4497571
Very important, don't draw on grid paper. Also, you don't need to use red color pencils and non-photo blue if you are not going to photocopy your work or finish the piece with traditional media. If you are only going to scan them to finish the piece digitally you just need a any pen or pencil. So you don't have to do that, but if you want to go for it and you can really use any colors you want if you are scanning them.

>>4497915
What do you mean by negative space, do you mean the iris being completely dark or do you mean that whatever's dark becomes white and vice versa?

>>4497759
Hey you're the guy who's afraid of drawing hands

isn any good exerise or anything that covers how to draw connecting forms in perspective that isnt turbo autism.

>>4496819
>>4496843
>>4496847
Im /beg/ but I don't see anything wrong besides the waist down to the legs

>RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

>>4498178
Good skulls. However there’s not much point drawing skulls if the lessons from them don’t apply to your faces. try drawing a face over a skull.

>>4498180
This. You beat me to it.

>>4498180
Unless he wants to draw skeletals

>>4498180
what about this

>>4498053
dilate

>>4498188
Quite a bit better. She looks utterly psychotic. That will either be an endorsement or a blow depending on your goals.

>>4498176
I'll never understand that meme. 4chan already enforces image dimensions and filesize limits and it takes at most seconds to load a 4 mb image of 4K resolution even on smartphones

>>4497833
Keep me updated with round 5 Anon. This is the best thing I've seen in a while

>>4498195
You expect me to middle click an image, switch to the tab containing that image, and then switching back to reply to the post with which the image was attached to?

le kangaroo man

>>4498212
why is he doing the basedboy face

>>4497970
This. Hands are fun and can carry incredible expression, just don't worry so much, try new things, have fun.

first time drawing titties what think

>>4497213
yeh this has no collarbones

>>4498249
fuck sorry i forgot to resize it

>>4498222
He's based, duh.

>>4498256
Horrible, look at more references then come back.

>>4498256
Cute, but her right hand has 6 fingers.

>>4498256
absolutely disgusting, looks like a guy with gyno

>>4496725

>>4498298

>>4498300

Trying to follow loomis's technique. Probably the most 3d I've been able to draw a head.

would trying to help other /begs/ even tho im /beg/ help me or just make me look retarded

>>4498339
pyw and we'll be able to tell if you're a /beg/ or just retarded

>>4498341

>>4498142
Yes

>>4498341
??????????

Is it me or is the whole iris slightly shifted to the right?

Is there a way to make this look natural by fucking with the shading and changing the shape of the eye brow?? Or should i just erase it?

>>4498504
Is it right or is my whole sight shifting to the right?

>>4498504
I-I guess it looks more natural if I lift the book and change the camera angle... r-right?

>>4498504
>>4498560
draw the whole head

my drawing for the night

If i started right now how long will it take to get good

S curves are the greatest lines of all time

>>4498620
gayrunteed pro almost regardless of what you do is 8 hours a day for two years. but that's not really feasible. figure out how long you can enjoy drawing a day and then try to slowly expand on that. most important thing is to enjoy the journey so you don't neck yourself.

i dont get what im suposed to learn from figure drawing books. Gesture, form, constructon, anatomical landmarks. That's all right?

>>4497880
better

>>4498620
Actively seek to improve your work every single time you draw, and you'll see results fairly quickly. It takes years to be really really good though.

>>4498620
It really depends on how clever you are.

>>4498620
at the pace you can, its a marathon not a sprint

>>4498212
good OP image

>>4497077
You’re gonna make it

>>4498334
Updated to this

This is hard, give advice pls. I already colored everything but it's still lacking something, I can't call it finished.
Perhaps it needs stronger shadows and way more colors...Yeah and I'll try to render the characters a bit more, they're too 2D.

Maybe I also need to add more stuff to the background, it feels too basic. MY CONQUEST IS A SEA OF CLOUDS THIS WON'T STOP ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4497833
A for effort I suppose, however it's somewhat of an excercise in futility.
Your faces are wildly inconsistent and off the mark, imo it's too early for you to get into painting and value.
Work on your basic drawing ability instead.

>>4497984
It's really nice man.
I think what bothers me most is the gritty brush, it might be nice for some things but I don't think that it's doing you any favours overall.

>>4498298
Looks like someone who's been wearing their pants too high, with it digging into their crotch for so long, that their body started adjusting to that.
Your sense of Form isn't bad though.

>>4498339
Depends, it's quite easy to think that you know what you're doing, so that you don't really realize if you're talking out of your ass or not.
If you think you can help someone try doing it yourself. If it looks like shit or you can't really pull it off, then you probably don't know what you're talking about.
In any case you either help someone or you help yourself by identifying your own weaknessess.

>>4498188
>>4498176
I wish I could draw skulls like you, fucking hell Anon.

\Feel free to post eve

bunch of wonky things
Did drawing, it was somewhat off but it will be fine I was thinking. Shaded it because it more interesting this way - realized it do not work at all - lasso moved things around to make some sense out of it, not sure know how human result is. To procrastinate traced grid on top of the photo and tried to shade it but mostly failed because did it wrong way and constantly forgot about head tilt. the cranium part I made up- was off so I tried liquidity some sense in to it, do not know how correct.

>>4498766
there's just too much going, man.

The pod things can probably be it's own picture for some concept art, the dude can be some blade runner shit, the girl can be nice if she's with like her mom or something.

That snake-faced lion can fuck off, although if the face is fixed I'd think he'd be alright. the mountainous bg could be nice as an exercise ala bob ross in the use of BG>MG>FG colours.

>>4498766
The hues are so saturated that it's hard to tell what should be the focus of this piece. Combine that with all the characters you've added and it's a mess. Simple is better imo.

Also, the perspective difference between whats going on in the sky and the land is semi confusing and unnatural.

>>4498797
Whoa mate you found the right answer. I need to do something to blend it all together.
I'll take it as a challenge since I already invested too much time to call it quits now.

What should I work on or do next

>>4498812
Drawing faces, or hands. Basically any concentrated human study imo

>>4498795
What's you approach in copying from a reference? From what I'm seeing you did it almost flawlessly and most details are 1:1.

everyone will say it horrible

First drawing ive ever done, other than dick scribbles. I know my anatomy especially hands sucks dick lmao. I just installed photoshop and im messing around with shading and drawing so i think i did pretty well.

>>4498809
nah bro, you got it wrong, just take the bits and pieces to make their own works. if you try to mix all that together all you'll get is something bad, mate. You can't have all the colours and not get brown

>>4498823
it kind of flattering. but if you make them same size and overlay and play with opacity you will see how wrong things are. I know because I tried. Some thing sometimes are surprisingly on point very, some things is off. what I remember is nose was small and eye in wrong place and overall tilt is somewhat fucked up. For what I do - fist I try to get this line between brows and from it to to the chin, then get overall shape and then make things feel similar. For some reason I always struggle with lips most. I'm not in the position to give advises but biggest mistake is to start with small things especially eyes,

Haven't touched a pencil in three months. I've been struggling with depression and losing. These might be my last drawings.

>>4498053
Stfu you disgusting tranny

>>4498839
Inb4 I sucked out its “soul”

I’m da soulsuckerrrrrr sucky sucky.

>>4498872
also maybe it helps that I'm sort of talentless autist type I suppose. Like I can be very meticulous but suck overall.

>>4497738
>granookie
Sounds cool, but a name that have no results on google is the best because in few years it will be nothing but your art
>mfw googling my nickname shows a fucking music band that have the same pronouncement

ploop

How do I approach lips and make them look glossy?

>>4496766
That looks amazing, who hurt you?

>>4498839
Grats on your first try anon! I could suggest that you use more curved lines, as long as you are drawing cylinders or anything round keep drawing with curved lines instead of straight lines.

>>4498839
missed the pic kinda like this

>>4498935
the arms are a bit stiff and the waist is a little too small but its pretty nice. Good work anon, you should finish it.

>>4498954
thanks! anatomy is my arch-nemesis but the small waist is sliiightly intentional, ill def fix it tho haha

>>4498910
>>4498952
What's redrawing something supposed to teach anyone?

>>4498965
Im not teaching anyone? Im doing it for myself. any excuse i have to draw i'll take! the more drawlings the better c:

>>4498945
Progress. is this better?
apologies for the boring post, i've never painted before so just taking things one step at a time

>>4498971
If the lips are kissing then they are squeezed together, so they are more rounded

>>4498965
offer them a different view on the same things, DUH!

>>4498982
Ah thank you! This is really good, your texturing is beautiful!

>>4498950
>who hurt you?
I hurt myself cause I couldn't able to draw a proper female facial structure.

AAAAAH I DONT KNOW WHAT IM DOING I JUST WANNA GET BETTER

>>4498891
based

>>4498766
I really like it

i dont get it

>>4499025
Do something more profitable with your time. Gestures are a meme.

>>4499029
This is why your drawing lacking in gesture and tposing instead.3

>>4498982
Alright so I tried to follow along with yours. Is this more accurate?

>>4499033
Maybe because I'm not practicing gesture?

>>4499029
i dont know what else to do bro

>>4499044
This is what I said

>>4499047
You could work on refining the form on those figure drawings. Doing it more from imagination, getting the proportions down inside your head.

>>4499049
>This is why your drawing lacking in gesture and tposing instead.3
That's what you said.

>>4498923
Is one result good enugh

>>4498797

Princess and her techno knight-bodyguard Bobblehead is on a journey trough the kingdom of hungered whaleplanes. Everything seems nice for now. But menacing snakeface lion is following them.

>>4498178
>>4498188
You werent ever /beg/

How do I resize images taken from phone?

Whats more important? Trying to get the drawing right as i see it or not erasing the mistakes/line quality?
Also why is it hard as shit for me to see the mistakes in my drawings but as soon as i take picture and put them side by side to the references the mistakes are as clear as night and day?

>>4499129
You dont see your art as shit when its shit because there is no context. Ur visual library is weak or u have no taste. So as a result when u are drawing and u see ur drawing u feel okay with it. However as soon as u see it next to ur ref or any art with substance and value you can notice the shit for what it truly is. Shit and a sign ur ngmi. I'm sorry to break it to ya.

The only reason ur ngmi is because u ask for help without posting your work. I'm blowing smoke up ur as I can't tell if ur ngmi but what I said about ur art and there being no context sounds about right. Let me know if it does.

>>4499142
You are ngmi because you can't spell the word "you".

Keys to drawing exercise 1. Was very difficult to draw this because I could not see in detail from so far away

Keys to drawing exercise 2.

>>4499143
Good thing I'm not a writer then o7

>>4498910
>>4498952
Thanks for the redraw boys, yeah i knew i fucked up the angle of it, but ive never drawn anything so i just continued anyway. Yours both look much more natural lol.

>>4498951
Thanks man, i drew all of it with the mouse because my tablet hadn't arrived and i also was messing around with photoshop because im a complete noobie so i didnt know anything about brushes or anything lmfao.

>>4498881
do you think starting an art twitter or equivalent could be good for my mental health? I haven't had the willpower to do anything in the last four months. I'm not sure what to do

>>4499227
Here's a secret from someone very smart. Your mental health is all in your head, you make your reality,

new thread
>>4499262
>>4499262
>>4499262
>>4499262
>>4499262

>>4499119
Take a screenshot

>>4499042
if you wanted to make lips that are forming kissing shape then yeah it is better.

>>4499119
Google resize image

>>4498965
It'll probably teach them more than doing an infinity of shitty scribbles. PYW.

>>4498620
about 3

>>4498268
lol?

>>4498993
gmi