/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

What. in the name of Betsy, is all that going on behind the strangely coloured torso?

>>4491362
Did this. Not sure why though.

WIP of a Sassoferrato, oil on linen on board.

>>4491557
I like it!

did another one

>>4491735
I sold a painting like these ones I'm posting so I'm trying to see if lightning can strike twice

tradfags any tips to making homemade watercolor/oil paper?

>>4491522
Woh my dude, that is like hell.

Thoughts?

Study from a Rubens, sorry about the glare may take another later. any critic would be greatly appreciated. I feel like i could get tighter with my colour and brushstrokes, as well as trying to stay in control, and not getting carried away and losing my self and getting lazy.

>>4491522
love the pixel clouds in the back

some more, still life.

>>4492249
Second this.

>>4491362
btw turns out bryan is using reddit onlyfan and gonewild girls as models so he can suck up to them like a full cuck. soo, idk use that info as you like lol.

>>4492319
suck up to them to what end? I mean if he's making money off onlyfans girls without paying them that seems pretty chad

aqt copper plate
I miss the studio

>>4491362
are there any artists who combine anime/ecchi style with classical oil painting techniques and aesthetics??

>>4492520
reduction woodcut

>>4492261
very busy. abstract even. the lines are leading me towards the center of the piece but there is nothing there. I don't even know what it is I'm looking at nor what I'm suppose to look at.

too busy.

>>4492261
reminds me of mehretu some
Id recommend not being too scared of negative space--white or black. It's all pretty midtone rn

Charcoal WIP.

>>4492526
Source on this?

>>4492275
I think you nailed transitions / halftones much better here than in the drawing of a hand. Good stuff all in all

>>4492652
great dude

>>4492528
like this as well

Currently working on this, still have the BG and inking to do.

Decided to follow the advice here and Just Draw. Usually I only cover the page with shitty sketches and I'm too afraid to do anything more complete. This time I just did it regardless of how intimidated I was or how little I knew what the hell I was doing.

>>4492249
Gesso is water, PVA, white paint, and chalk or talcom or some other powder.

>>4492801
That looks really good. I envy you, i still can't sit without getting frustated.

>>4492319
The more selfies you see (seen a lot over this home period) the more you realise that's exactly what he's painting. Seriously needs to invent some faces cos I'm half anticipating a bathroom mirror and cellphone in the next one.

>>4492362
Doubt he's making money, and even if he was it would be at the sacrifice of any real artistic growth, so a failure in the large scheme of things.

To what end? To no end. That's precisely the point of the word cuck.

>>4492921
can't wait for him to memorize one face and use it for everything lol.

>>4492652
quite nice but I'd go easy on the white

I tried to draw a horse with charcoal..

anyone here have experience with watercolor pencils? I have water color markers but they are too intense and left super dark artifacts that I can't blend out

>>4494278
not bad but composition make it feel very tumbler
>>4494499
have but never used. what's wrong with regular watercolor pods or tubes? dont forget about the paper - I bought some shitty hobby tubes second hand and feel I can do plenty with them so long as the paper doesn't start shedding fibers easily

>>4494609
>paper
ya I got some good watercolor block paper. I use the tubes, but I like to sketch my drawing first in pencil. I figured the WC will dissolve the pencil mostly

the markers are super dark and intense when I do the sketch with them

>>4492261
name a thing in this drawing

Thoughts? Medium is graphite, hb-4b

>>4495064
It's well done. If There's somethign to say, it's the right thigh. While I get that it has the shadow of the right arm and by being placed in a chair has dark parts I don't thing it's that wholly dark. It really messes the flow. I'd say if you can, increase the value of the whole thigh, just leave very dark the part that's touching the chair, see how it coms out.

>>4492319

He had a period where he was stalking this e-thot and he pretty much only drew this ugly bitch with a mole on her face. I think she eventually called him out on his creepy infatuation.

>>4495064

Your value grouping is bad and making your shapes 2d. Look into its concept.

>>4495073
It's better you don't crit; just shut up and look at the pretty pictures.

>>4491522
>>4492261
>>4494267
>>4494609
>>4495064
sick

did this, i know the perspective is fucked in places but whatever it wont happen again, dad I promise

Guys, I think I kinda miss Brian, even though he was an asshole that never listened to critique, /ic/ and the /trad/ thread feels weird without him. Ironically, most of his works are better than 90% of ic's now that the board has gone to shit

painted a onlyfans acquaintance of mine, hopefully one of her fans buys it

>>4492793
Made a little more progress.

>>4497335
painted a castle

>>4497335
clean up your edges friend

>>4492793
Pretty cool. Although his right arm came out a bit bigger than his left, also part of his right lat should be visible to us.

Is charcoal drawing once reach the stage of add details just where you feel like?

>>4498292
nigga, wut?

>>4497676
I really love it anon! The colors give it a nice mood. Keep up the good work!

>>4494278
I absolutely love this for some reason. It's like it's made out of a storm.

>>4498358
I don't know if I'm doing anything with adding details

>>4491362
>after three years he still just draws women's torsos, hasnt learned how to draw hands, and his faces look like they have downs

if i were you i'd kms by now lmfao. you have a disability bry guy?

i did the inking trad. with a fountain pen if that counts

>>4492261
hey, you're like me! kinda. try using value to define your composition more than lines, I had the same issue

>>4498470
You got the vintage style very nicely

>>4498435
maybe stop expecting so much from me? why do you care?

>>4500117
We're stuck with seeing these vapid tits all over the board, that's why we care.

>>4500117
learn to draw some other shit mane, how can you stay sane drawing only tits and torso's your entire life

>>4500117

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmyJloocfd0

>>4492801
I really like it! Reminds me of naussica.
How did you learn to draw like that? I'm also struggling with 'just drawing' I'm intimidated.

>>4500208
Kek

>>4500117
art for art's sake

Second oil painting I've ever done. What do you think?

Planning on starting learning how to draw too. In which order would you read these books? Fun with a pencil, drawing with the right side of the brain, keys to drawing.

>>4502771
if I can do one of these in 25 minutes and make $200 I don't really give a shit

>>4492690
The artist seems to post their process method for all their art too

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/80614978

>>4503126
It's the Ferrari of nude painting.

>>4503126

No one will pay that for that shit.

>>4503153
Someone might invest their trumpbux

so glad brian died of coronavirus

>>4503148
>the tits gets bigger every panel
why, my son :(

>>4492793
That is pretty awesome, but as a respectful critique i think his delts need to be pumped up more. Did you consult with /fit/,?

This is the Trad thread, yes? Or the porn corner

>>4492261
This is appealing. There is something like an energy or urgency leading towards the center, which is really satisfying. Like another anon said, maybe this piece would be even cooler with something meaningful in the center. Keep drawing man

>>4503126
( o Y º)

>>4503149
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>>4503179
I make sure to always DM them the painting and a message saying "Wow I'm so sorry your breasts must really hurt your back :( If you wanted to get a breast reduction I'd fully support you because I think you'd look beautiful on matter what"

>>4503264
too much talking not enough painting

>>4503461
what are you doing dude, your paintings are getting jankier every day.

>>4503473
i'm trying to make easy money

>>4503178

Restate some of your edges, and make them harder. Everything is pretty soft now and makes it look sloppy

>>4503461

Jesus brian stop wasting materials on this crap, it’s not good. Get a job flipping burgers if you’re that desperate for money, it’s going to bring in more money than these ever will.

>>4503626
ok crab

>>4503638
Nice paintings
I want to learn to paint in oils and art school is teaching me shit.
Do you have any good book recommendtions on how to paint trad?

>>4503678
anon ...

Started this one today

>>4503638
How are you describing someone as pretty when she has no face?
Literal lies.

>>4503638
what site Is that? I would like to purchase paintings.

>>4503874
ebay
look up brcomf-0, that's my account

did another one

>>4503874
>>4503893
Samefagging, to sell pics.
Because you're a jannie, you think you're going to get away with that?

>>4504019
why do you all think im a janitor

>>4504061
because everything on your easel is garbage

>>4503638

Thar you are listing them doesn't mean someone will buy them.

>>4504061
Didn't deny the samefagging.

Brian don’t listen to these dumbasses.
I am really starting to like your stuff.
Drawing and values are coming along really nicely. I like your use of colors for flesh. The OP flesh colors are great. Very pleasing to look at. I like how your backgrounds are getting more simple and less distracting from what you are getting us to look at...the beauty of a naked female body.
Look like you are putting a stop to overthinking your choices and when u have something that looks good I encourage you to not go over it again as long as there aren’t any terrible drawing mistakes. May I make a request?
O.p. Painting... don’t touch the figure or top half of background. Do some else with that umberish ground.
All in all bravo brother.

mixing white gouache with watercolours to make them more opaque actually works or is it just a meme? i have a lot of watercolours and wanted to try gouache, but proper gouache paint is expensive as fuck in the third world shithole where i live so i was thinking about getting pic related to use with my watercolours and give them a more gouache look. any tradfags here tried this? is it worth it?

>>4505494
It works, it's not a meme, but with some caveats:
- Some colors will look more washed out that others, but you'll never get fully opaque with "straight from the tube" saturation.
- The white gouache should be very opaque on its own. Can't speak to that specific brand. It kinda still works with a shitty one, but you need to use more white and it will wash things out more.

It's worth trying. Feels very different from plain transparent watercolors, and for whatever reason I prefer it to acrylic,

>>4503893
nother 1

>>4505553
Can you start being a tripfag, so I can filter you?

Hide Brian threads
Ignore Brian posts
Do not reply to Brian posters

>>4505553
dam son, I am luvin da gurls

>>4492261
Amazing. Would like to see this translated to paint.

>>4492264
>>4492275
I think it's important to remember that art is supposed to be interesting. As in to look at. Don't become so obsessed with control and tightness that you forget to make a painting interesting.

>>4500117

Nothing wrong with drawing tits. Stay sane dude

>>4503728
Worked on it a bit today

>>4492264
>>4492275

These are good. Check your colour temperatures on the rubens halftones are more saturated.

>>4505553

Brian are you a necrophiliac?

Do you guys have any general advice for drawing with ink?
What about using ink and watercolor together? An underlying sketch in ink and watercolor for color.

>>4497676
The colors almost remind me of a Roerich painting. I really like this.

>>4505895

Indian ink is a pigment ink and those can be wetted after it has dried without it bleeding. I myself am not too fond of the look but you can colour a sketch done with a pigment ink with watercolours. Just experiment.

>>4505553
>>4503893

realistically, how long does this stuff take to paint? How big are they?

some of you may remember my black and white olives from a few weeks back.


ngl I'm not sure at all why I still come here

>>4506041

I’m happy actual skilled people still post here among the sea of terrible ashen tits.

>>4503638
>0 bids

>>4506178
reality bites, why not keep trying though, im not gonna give up, i'll keep painting until I make a living, even if I have to make 3 paintings a day

>>4506224
Not saying you shouldn't keep trying, but why post that screenshot as proof of your ascension out of the bucket when you have 0 bids? You might have better success if you stop being so desperate for money and diluting your subject matter over it. People can see tits on the internet, they don't need giant pornographic images in their dining rooms.

>>4506259
they're just variations on a theme, if they were all the same I'd agree with you, but the placement of the figures is different in each of them, some have flat backgrounds, some are in landscapes, I'm just trying to eek out a pattern in the purchasing of nudes, and then I'll apply that to future ones, it's a learning process for all of them, but nudes get way more attention on eBay than any other kind of painting so it's worth knowing which ones are most popular.

Also most people on eBay don't ever bid on an item, they make an offer on it, so say a painting is on for $230, nobody is ever going to bid the full $230, they'll send you a private offer of $200. Very rarely does anything ever get bid on.

>>4506277

You can equivocate all you want but be honest, you haven’t sold any of those listed paintings yet, isn’t it?

>>4505778

Nice. Give him something to stand on though. Ref?

>>4506277
No. They are all the same painting. A womans nude that has been cropped to the same portion every single time. The colors make them look like corpses, and despite you pumping them out constantly, the anatomy is still wonky. Please consider switching it up sometime soon..

Watching the Bureau

>>4506330
I sold this nude 6 days ago for $200, and decided I'd make more, similar paintings at the same price point, in case more people want to buy them

>>4506336
Thanks, it's from Tiziano's Polittico Averoldi

>>4506370
good job anon, proud of you, keep selling to retards

>>4506370

That is not what I asked, you sold that one to a coomer fan of the camwhore you tried to depict. I would consider it a fluke, you got lucky.

>>4506370
desu, that looks better than everything else you've posted recently, so that might be part of it.

>>4506626
I dunno, the type of person that buys physical paintings like that to put up on their walls doesn't seem like a typical coomer.

>>4506626
>>4506636
the guy that bought it said it reminded him of his girlfriend, and he wanted me to change her hair to blonde before I sent it. Take from that what you will.

>>4491522
pixel cloud is clapped

>>4494266
that thing in the right looks like the fishstick from fortnite

working on a comic, a lot of work

>>4506708
sorry posted the wrong version!

>>4506370
What's your portrait palette mix again? How do you get those wonderful gray tones

>>4505998
Thank you. Will try it with a dip-pen. The microns are nice but run out.

Out of curiosity what about the look do you dislike?

>>4506744
it's Cobalt Teal, Cobalt Blue, Prussian Blue, Vermillion Light, Cadmium Lemon, Yellow Ochre, and Titanium White

what areas is the line weight too heavy, and what areas is the line weight too light?
link to reference: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ee/44/59/ee44598525fb40e4c4c3d2f6aab166f4.jpg

>Arthur Balfour

Who was in dhe wrong here??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3GF1x0-VX0

>Crisis 1917

coi fish

>>4492261
Looks like a sea creature with the head of a bird (top center right) destroying a ship.

>>4507439
I thought that was a jacket hanging..

>>4492652
Nice scapula shading

>>4492249
Look up Cesar Santo's gesso on paper vid. I'm trying it, the drying time (if oil) takes a while.

>>4508787
faasu

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>>4508787

everything you paint looks like playdoh

>>4508890

>>4508894

>>4508900

>>4508906
Last judensketch for today

>>4508891
thanks, i'm really enjoying hypersexualizing women's bodies for my own enjoyment lately

>>4509082
this ones really gross too

New to sculpture. This is my new thing. I see how inflated his lower back is now

Also why the fuck does it flip the image

>>4509209
I'm going for a curved gesture, any tips on capturing movement in 3D? I draw a lot of gestures so that helps.

>>4509085
The negativity isn't a bandwagon. You have moral blinders on, dude

>>4509223
Nice cock sculpture

>>4509271
I just started on the back this morning so I will keep that aversion in mind. Thank you.

where are you buying your art supplies from during this pandemic?

>>4509417
lots of parts of the body look like cocks and ass. nothing to be concerned about.

i heard this was the thread to post painted boobs-- i mean, women to.

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>>4508884
This is some /beg/ shit, not /trad/. You have to go back.

>>4506718
neat hatching. is the other version run through a ps filter?

>>4507439
>https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ee/44/59/ee44598525fb40e4c4c3d2f6aab166f4.jpg
Don't worry too much about line weight for now, focus on getting value relationships correct. You're better off using charcoal on newsprint, that #2 you're using is gonna limit you.

Much larger canvas than I’ve ever tried painting before. Finished today

>>4509910
Whatever it’s better than most of the shit on here. I’ll post some more complex work when i get the chance

>>4509910
This is what I’m working on right now. It’s only half done but is it good enough to be on your thread commissar?

>>4510075
>draws crappy chicken scratch of jewish caricatures
>nobody says "based"
>"WELL IM THE FUCKING BEST AND ITS BASED YOU GUYS JUST ARENT BASED ENOUGH YOU FUCKING JEW FAGGOTS"

what did this retard mean by this?

>>4510105
>is it good enough to be on your thread commissar?

Eh, I guess. /trad/ is really more charcoal+painting+marker imo, but you've got the work taped off and it looks like you're using more than one (two) lead hardness, so I guess there's a good-faith effort to be /trad/, even if the drawing doesn't justify it. Pretty empty thread otherwise. Switch to charcoal and tackle a direct-observation still life and I'd be more welcoming. I haven't been to /beg/ in a long time though so IDK if there's any quality critique there anymore.

On the real, I once had an artist recommend against "whimmy" lines. If you're going to lay in value with hatching or tone, do so deliberately, don't just scribble till it looks dark enough. I just realized that's the base of a giant tree, it reads as a mountain. you gotta subordinate fore/mid/background using value, i.e. 0-3/4-6/7-9. Keep the hierarchy consistent.

>>4506041
The jar's shoulders are uneven and the neck+lid are closer to the right side than left. Highlight on the topleftmost lid is messy. Green color on bottom half is too green, doesn't have enough yellow to match top half. Base of jar is a fuckin mess, repaint it entirely.

Brian why don't you paint vaginas

>>4492261
Peter Draws-core

>>4510007
not bad. we can get a sense of distance. but the values are too sharply defined / the whole things is a bit patchy, maybe try working with more water or in layers??

>>4510007
Doesnt look finished to me

>>4508894
That's pretty based anon, don't listen the haters.

>>4510007
Looks great what is the canvas size, or are we supposed to guess

>>4497335
Is her lower body melting?

>>4498470
Alot of soul. Knight seems abit dumpy looking because of the proportions however, take that as you will.

>>4503638
Those prices are atrocious.

>>4510960
I tried to exaggerate the midground contrast to give the sense of morning light streaming between the rock towers. I felt like this would only work with a relatively dark and muted foreground. Not sure what you meant by the suggestion to add more water or layers, this is an oil painting. I guess I could let this dry completely and add thin layers on top if needed but I can't really think of any place where I would want to.
>>4511017
There's a lot that I wish I could change but every time I try to go back and touch up a layer it almost always comes out looking worse. So when I get to a point where I feel adding another brush stroke will make the painting look worse then I stop.

>>4511111
I normally paint on 18x24 but this is more like 36x48.

wip! new to oils, I'd appreciate any critique, tips, or resources.

>>4513840
Very refined, even the decision to narrow the eyes appears to work well. What's your portrait palette? Do you use turpentine or W&N medium?

Are you painting with hog or sable?

>>4507029
>Cobalt Teal
Isn't that really expensive?

>>4509910

Thanks man!

Yeah I was playing around trying different filters

>>4513935
Cobalts, Cadmiums and Vermilions often have a large price tag.

>>4507029
And it's all mixed on your palette?

>>4513935
An order of paint for me is usually around $300 and lasts me 4 months

>>4513940
yellow ochre, white, and Prussian blue are dirt cheap.
But yeah I mix them on the palette, I rarely ever use color straight from the tube, nearly everything is mixed. the only time I ever really use color from the tube is when it's for outlines.

>>4513963
How much?
Are you eating for dinner, ffs?

>>4513963
Trumpbux set you up for a year of oil painting. What is your full buy list?

>>4507029
lol @ needing 3 blues.

>>4513971
this is my order coming on Thursday, which should last me until August. I get cheap canvases from Michaels in 3 packs to paint on, so I probably spend about $500 on canvases and paper every year

About $1500 on art supplies every year

>>4505741
Brian?

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>>4508907
what sketchbook is that? I really like the paper

>>4505741
I know I just called you Brian, but that was a joke, Honestly these are studies, I am trying to get myself the the point where I can paint realism intuitively, so that I can paint freely enough to express my self truly. in other words, I'm trying to paint tight now so that I may paint loose later.

>>4505881
Thanks dude that's a good point, I was trying to up them to look more like the original that I had in my book, which was dumb because it kinda defeated the purpose of the study for me... next time ill try and work from a better photo reference, my printer kinda butchered the values on the ref.

>>4506744
fucking kek

HI!, i'm new here, i'll just drop an old copy of a russian academy drawing i did in college

>>4514955
You're too good for here, but welcome! hopefully you stay!

>>4509932
Thanks I will work on values
Ordered newsprint and willow charcoal

>>4509209
Not bad. I'm trying my hands on sculpting too but I have to get through some anatomy stuff.

>>4515543
thanks, i have left my drawing practice aside a little bit, because of that i'm looking for a community or something that motivates me to keep working constantly C:

>>4515856
Thanks. My knowledge of anatomy is definitely weak but I was able to make it through this by referencing other sculptures (I recommend Rodin with his accentuated style) and the Instagram page @anatomy4sculptors is fantastic if you don't have the book.

still the best thread on the board.
my attempt at a da vinci. fucked it up.

>>4516041
you're on like stage 2 of 4 of this painting
keep painting desu

>>4503083
Very cute

>>4506370
Where is her crotch?

>>4509082
To be honest you draw some nice tits, they look really milky but the moment I see the rest of the paiting that has no details the magic is gone

>>4507863
Blog?

you aren't painting with blacks straight out the tube, right anon?
you're mixing chromatic blacks, right?

>>4519046
most of the time I don't even mix black, I mix teal and vermillion and get a dark grey

>>4519046
Of course I do, I use the Zorn palette most of the time.
The more colors on one's palette,the more of an amateur you are, natch.

first attempt at plein air that didn't end in disaster.
>>4519046
I started using a mix of phthalo blue and cad red for blacks. I don't really know why you should limit using straight black, I just read it somewhere.

>>4505553

You art is nice anon. I don't know if it's a stylistic choice, but the background is too warm, kinda made she look like a corpse.

>>4519818
Nice job, anon.
Using black is fine. It was normal until Monet et al started thinking it wasn't okay. Are you always going to do what Monet says? That's fine if you want to paint exactly like Monet. otherwise, why bother??
Here is my wip using Zorn except for ultramarine on the cloth.

>>4519833
I like but I really don't like the rough texture of the canvas.

>>4519890
That's Belgian linen!

>>4519890
>>4520138
It's only 10x12 inches.

>>4519818
Using black is fine. I used to be the same way until I began using the Zorn palette and discovered that you can get a very rich array of colors just from ivory black, titanium white, cadmium red, and yellow ochre. Ivory black is a cool black so it acts as a very dark blue and can be used with yellow to make green.

>>4520138
it's not stretched linen though it's pre-made linen, which is just a scam in my opinion. Real linen absorbs paint like a mother fucker, and those washes would look much more beautiful. It would also run you about 10x the price you probably paid for this. If I were you i'd invest in bulk cotton pre-made canvases until you sell enough paintings to buy what you want to actually paint on. Also: Work bigger occasionally

>>4519818
if you're painting red drapery and a "black" shadow is cast over it somewhere, why would that red fabric not reflect any hint of red? etc. black from the tube results in (obviously) less vibrant pieces

>>4520309
I've got claessens very fine oil primed linen panels too, not much difference, This is an absorbent surface as I've covered it with very absorbent gesso, it's sucking the paint from the brush.
I do paint large, up to 100x120. Why do you even think I don't? Just because this one is small?

finally got more paint and canvases

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>>4509223
Based sculpting poster

>>4520669
feels good to get to paint again after like 4 days

>>4509223
i once took a "sculpture" class and it ended up being casting & plaster (FUCK that shit), woodshop shit, and a meme video project
fuckin' SHIT i would've killed for just clay or whatever it is to start shaping with your hands

>>4520833
Order some oil based clay off Amazon and go wild. That type never dries so you can experiment and learn a lot.

>>4491362
48x30. Oil on canvas.

>>4521771
How fast do you paint this thing?

im trying to into oil again, and im painting over an acrylic painting that i found too simple. but the paint doesnt cover up very well? would be great if i wanted to glaze, but not yet.
would I be better off with a fresh painting to get back into the medium?

>>4522096
About an hour and a half

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>>4520669
Why do you insist on not including a face?

>>4514053
F-C 9000 is your favourite pencil?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp4wbRrAOTQ

I still miss the old American-made Turquoise... the German made pencils don't have the same handling.

>>4523019
the references I find all have no face, its very hard to find a reference that has a face that isn't some overly lit "art reference photo" or just straight up porn.

>>4522717
Try doing a wash of umber over the original acrylic and then wiping it away with rags to create a value under painting, that might cover enough of the acrylic, I would also try painting thicker, or maybe add many layers. but frankly, it would probably be better to just do a new painting from scratch.

>>4523053
by overly lit do you mean properly lit? I find it odd that you have reservations about painting references from porn considering that your references are LITERALLY porn from gonewild.

>>4523073
>I find it odd that you have reservations about painting references from porn considering that your references are LITERALLY porn from gonewild.
it takes a lot of sifting through crappy photos to find good ones, by "porn" I mean the kind of stuff you'd find on /s/, of like no shadows at all, porn lighting, shitty angle porn photos.

And most art reference things are not "properly lit", they're lit for chiaroscuro, which assuming you do it right is good for life drawing, but terrible for photo reference, because most of the time it just means 35% of the figure is in complete darkness. Add on top of that that most "art models" on the internet are ugly as sin, and it renders most of those photos completely useless.

The most luck I've had was finding girls whose bodies I liked, and trying to help them help me by drawing poses of them to do, or taking photos of myself in poses I'd like to see. But that's effort and requires me talking to someone, and most of the time it's easier just to pick the girl with the biggest boobs

>>4523087
>things are not "properly lit"
does this not produce a more interesting painting? if a face is lit too evenly with a camera flash then it becomes flat, right?

>>4523251
that's the challenge in finding a photo, most girls photograph themselves with absolutely no shadows on their body cause they're degenerates and want to look like children. Finding actual lighting on gonewild is incredibly hard, but for the most part when there is lighting on a gonewild picture it's not faux dramatic lighting, there's actual color and grain and value in the shadows other than 100% black. 1 in every 40 Gonewild pictures ends up being better than 100% of "art reference photos"

Most art reference photos like I said are trying to simulate the lighting you'd see in a drawing studio, but photography can't capture value range in shadows between 75-100% so it just turns everything black. That's great if you want to do shitty knockoffs of academic art from the late 1800s, not great if you actually want to make colorful paintings

How to paint DA GRASS and DA FLOWERS? uwu

>>4523345
i think i see what youre saying. the advice i got with photo portraits for painting was to sit someone near a sunny window and shoot with the flash off. im not sure at what point the black levels come into it, but im assuming taking them raw, before the jpg gets a chance to do anything to it, would also help.

so how about inventing a face to go on those figures?

>>4523345
'Colorful'
The color of decaying corpses, maybe...

>>4523411
>>4523411
>so how about inventing a face to go on those figures?
it ends up looking stupid because the body is "photoreal" at least to a certain extent, or there's a specificity to the lines and colors that makes the face from my imagination look stupid. I can draw a face, but I can't make it match the body without compromising the rest of the image. It just doesn't work. If I had models I would paint the full figure with a face, I think that's what people get crabby about is they think I can't paint faces, but if I have someone or something in front of me I can paint anything. Being able to draw from imagination is only useful to the extent that you make mistakes from reference. If you screw up a hand, you should know how to fix it without the model, but there is almost never a reason to work completely from your head unless you literally only do art to impress people with autism

I want to really dive into pen and ink, particularly with a brush and pen nibs. What do you recommend I get to start with? Price shouldnt be too much a problem and I'm lucky to have an art store in town. Is brush and ink all I need or is there something else recommended. Heard Winsor Newton series 7 is the way to go.

>>4523501
Pentel brush pen seems to be a great starter, but you can always just be cheap and get a fine brush and bottle of ink. The brush might actually give you more control then the brush pen but with the brush pen you don’t have to constantly dip it so it can feel more natural

gonna try to sell some pencil drawings

I painted this bird. As I'm sure is apparent I'm as /beg/ as they come but I'm happy that I actually painted instead of procrastinating. I need more practice though. I feel like I need to work more on pretty much everything. Especially the contrast between the subject and the background and how to paint rocky cliffs, mine always look like spotted grey blobs. Any feedback at all is appreciated.

>>4523988
Cute

>>4523712
dope lines and gesture.

WIP, file too large, I had to convert it on messenger

>>4524350
Thanks!

>>4491362
Here's an oil pastel I did a while back.

>>4523988
keep painting

>>4519818
Depends on the specific black pigment imo

Rembrandt master study

>>4526184
turned out well. what'd you learn?

>>4524378
That is someone's Wi-Fe

>>4492801
What are you drawing with anon

>>4526396
What?

>>4523712
was a bit more ambitious with this one

Started working on this one today

>>4527339
I wonder what kinda people buy this

>>4527339
hey bry, we all give you a tonne of shit, but you know if painting makes you happy, I mean if you are happy while you are painting, than you're a true painter, and you should keep on going. cheers brother.

>>4527517
No-one does. That's the point.

>>4524378
Is finished!

i drew this a few months ago
biggest criticisms were the hood should've been rendered and that no one recognized that a spear was impaling the heart

i drew this a few months ago
biggest criticisms were the hood should've been rendered and that no one recognized that a spear was impaling the heart

>>4527984
because the point of the spear looks small

>>4527984
Because the spear is barely visible.
Maybe if it was angled more towards the right, instead of behind the head and the speartip being more defined, it just doesn't pop out right now and kinda disappears in the rest of the drawing.

>>4527339
How do you always manage to make the breasts seem so fake? Do you only use fake boobs for reference, or what?

18x24 oil painting of Shiprock that I did yesterday. I’m considering adding a few tiny grasses to the foreground but I think I might leave it alone

I painted Lothric from Dark Souls 3

it's my first time posting. self portrait. medium is graphite, just writing pencil on a really good sketching paper. any suggestions appreciated.

>>4529977
i recommend shaving

>>4530017
no. it's comfy.

>>4529977
fix those hands buddy

>>4530198
somethin tells me you weren't lookin at the hands

>>4530210
No

>>4529977
your torso seems way to long

>>4523988
I only paint in oil which makes it easy to show contrast due to the opacity of each layer. Maybe there is some way with watercolor to complete your background, let it dry completely, then begin layering in the bird or whatever else is in the foreground.

>>4521236
I really love the bright light you’ve created behind the trees in the mid ground.

>>4530323
Bob Ross is one hell of a drug.

>>4530198
will do. thanks.

>>4530266
i know, but in reality it is. maybe because i chopped off the legs. i guess in my final drawing i will include them.

I painted Archdragon Peak from Dark Souls 3

>>4531662
you should really stop.

>>4531662
looks great

>>4531706
kill yourself

>>4531717
nah faggot. brian is a loser who hasnt improved after 3 whole years and just hoards his shitty paintings. suck his cock because you're even worse than him LOL

>>4491362
Here's a work-in-progess that I've been working on for the past year

>>4531719
rent free

>>4531728
what drives you to return to a landscape painting that much

>>4529977
Go dilate you tranny.

>>4531662
looks like shit

>>4531717
kill yourself

>>4531840
I stopped working on it back in october, but i started it last April. I wasn't satisfied with it until recently. I have to touch up some areas

>canvases sold out everywhere you go
Amazing sight. Can't wait till the art stores reopen. Of course you can buy them online and pick it up

>>4531728
What drew you to this scene? It looks plain compared to your other landscapes

>>4530853
My man!

>>4532070
everything looks available in Seattle on Amazon

painted a friend's dog with goauche. Does anyone have decent quality goauche suggestions? I have cheap Amazon ones, but the tubes are leaking and breaking since they're old. Was looking at the HIMI/MIYA jelly paints since they look convenient and relatively cheap

>>4532083
I haven't posted here since last summer. You might have me mistaken for somebody else. I was inspired by the works of John Constable.

>>4532203
good boy

>>4532216
Scratch that, I was thinking about George Inness

>>4532070
Not having hundreds of canvases, linen panels, aluminium panels, etc pre prepared, sitting waiting to be used.
What are you artanon, some sort of amateur?

>>4532203
Cute puppa

i'm always so proud of everyone when a trad thread hits bump limit, even if they're 60% me

now the long wait for it to drop to nothing before a new thread can emerge.

>>4531662
Your paintings are great man :)

>>4527925
Any opinions? critiques?

>>4527925
>>4532865
i think you have enough skill in charcoal blending and copying/imagining anatomy that you should really think of the entire piece of as a whole instead----the lack of care for the whitespace is limiting

>>4532903
It's not charcoal, is pencil drawing, thank you! Yeah I out of paper so I used the one that had the most space

>>4532933
no
i say use all space

>>4532934
Don't worry, I bought a new block

>>4533045

>>4532058
Quite good, but the rear legs are unclear.

>>4532565
Youre nudes are terrible

>>4533046
More paper

>>4533811
More paper won't solve it.

>>4533823
unlimited paper works

tryin to teach myself to watercolor,

howmadoin?

1/2

>>4533883
2/2

>>4533885

>>4533883

sorry for the shitty pictures, working on new paper that is too big for my scanner

>>4533883
>howmadoin?
A lot fucking better than I am that's for sure.

>>4534330
i'd hang that in my bathroom

Can someone please point me at the good watercolor tutorials that has detailed view of the techniques instead of "draw owl with me" style?
I really liked Shibasaki channel(not to mention that he is pure pleasure to hear and look at) but after the basics he is too not giving much about technique points.
Picrelated is my last try that is not a lot of pain to look at.

>>4534452
I mean, it was my first attempt. And I have shit supplies. But it's fun to learn.