/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

How do I draw this good?

>>4490829
This is probably my best recent drawing. I feel like crap not being able to draw better.

i did drawinabox where do i go now

>>4490830
grinding seems to be the only real way i've been able to make progress, also adapting tools. I can't imagine you can achieve this hyper realism with a graphite pencil alone, you need 2B-4B and darker colors of charcoal, charcoal dust, and some sort of smudging tool etc... I would also say the most important part is to practice construction. It's kinda neat to reverse image search your own image and get the actor or actress as a result.

>>4490825
why do some images get put in the OP

>>4490830
You want to be a Xerox? Big cringe

>>4490830
You need to work with sharper shapes.

Right now your shadows are just smudges. Stop doing that. Sketch out where you want your shadows to be and then fill them in. It will force you to be more precise.

Also you don't have any midtone. For your highlights, only some of the skin should be the brightest white, but in your drawing it's more than half of his face that's pure white.

I recommend getting grey or tan shaded paper and some white chalk or colored pencil or something. Then you can add the highlights, and it'll be much easier to not "overexpose" the drawing, for lack of a better term.

>>4490825

>>4490760
LF Adv

Does the method of "flip horizontally" comes from the book Drawing in the right side of the brain?

>>4490848
Good but the perspective on the box is off. Fix that.

Finish rendering this bad boy, get the values of the cast shadow and reflected light of the sphere to be as accurate as you can, and then grab a still life with some color and do that.

This is good progress.

I cant see ref well but I expect it be more like bottom picture rather then top like you have. physically.

i can draw boxes, what do I do now? do I jump into anatomy

>>4490829
Get a photocopier.>>4490848

>>4490895
Anatomy is end game, go create something out of basic shapes.

>>4490848
Nice ball and cube anon. Makes me want to coom.

>>4490895
I see you followed the holy path of Allah brother, peace be upon you.

>>4490915
Fuck a pig ahmed.

>>4490810
not really the sort of thing i'm looking for.
i'm the drop the dead donkey poster; if i could find something as interesting as that, but with everyone nude or something, that'd be the best.

>>4490864
That idea is way older than that book.
Some trad artists will use a mirror to look at their work flipped horizontally.

How long have you guys been in /beg/?

>>4490911
i dont know man.. what do i do

>>4490915
are drawbox bad

>>4490866
>>4490889
Thanks anon, I thought was already done but as youve pointed out, I did miss a lot of values. I'll get back to it later. I'm doubting my method right now though. It's not as organic as moderndayjame's demo. I'm using multiple
layers to separate the objects. Im also using the blur tool to soften edges and achieve gradation (only after I layed down/blocked the values like the ones shown in your example... No airbrushes here.)
>>4490913
Give it a try, i bounce between this and figure drawing/anatomy.

>>4490829
I mean if you only want to copy there are many techniques to do that, like grid, that mirror and so on

>>4490845
If you are asking how they are chosen, depends on who is making the thread, I chose this one because it has a nice thumbnail.

>>4490837
post your last exercises and we will see

How long do people usually draw for fun before moving on to studying/serious pursuit? I'm asking because I'm a level 0 beginner and I'm worried it will be too sudden to go into books and lessons immediately. How do people normally approach this? Or, how did you personally approach it?

>>4490825
After reading Loomis in constructing head I used the method to construct a skull using Loomis and perspective, whacha think? Do I need to read Scott Robertson?

>>4490970
idk i just wanna move on if its bad ill practice it on the side

>>4490933
I can see you're losing it pal, but I think your shitpost is a good one, regardless.

>>4490988
I only draw for fun. But my advice would be to make drawing as fun as possible, while slowly including more fundies.

A lot of drawing is just being able to move a pencil right, and that can get in the way of learning.

>>4490991
too much loomis

>>4490825

>>4490991
For me it looks like peak autism. And it seems like you double sized along one axis

>>4490991
Good projection. Keep going.

Fun with a pencil
Am I supposed to draw every single face?
He doesn't actually say to draw what's on the page that often
Also could one skip fun with a pencil in favor of successful drawing?

first drawing of an animal
how is it? any advices?

>>4491009
Loomis? More like Coomis, sock-cuckah!

>>4491037
looks like first drawing of an animal
draw more animals

>>4490848
>No texture on the ball
REEEEEEEE

But seriously good job

>>4491002
please help

I'm so trash. I wish I was dead.

>>4491068
reference

How many bling-blings should I add?
Also, what else does it need to be finished?

>>4490829
Just take a picture with your phone. People are gonna think you traced anyway. The whole point of Picasso and the whole contemporary art movement was because cameras made photorealistic painting obsolete. Drawing is about either drawing something that doesn't exist or drawing something stylized. Capturing the essence without merely copying. Playing with proportions for emphasis. Knowing what to accentuate and what to omit. To capture a likeness in the abstract.

For the anon of last thread. In case he didn't see it.

The question was : Feels uncanny, how to make it more feminine.

i tried to preserve the maximum of the original design decisions.

>>4490991
Holy shit bud, 2000 IQ'ing that skull.

>>4490848
Great job anon. For future value study i would probably not use the color picker and try to eyeball the values.

The angle of the cube is also slightly off, the ball's cast shadow is almost straight on the cube.

Keep it up

>>4491082
I wouldn't add anything anon, just refine your edges.

>>4491065
You have talent bro, I can see in the way you draw. Just keep doing that.

>>4490825
how long do you think it takes to get good enough to draw something that impress normies?

>>4491065

>>4491082
place it somewhere. It impossible to decipher geometry of the thing[how it looks like from the top], need cast shadows or something

can only sketch cant motivate myself to render a piece

>>4491126
Well, it's already more rendered than average by /beg/ standards.

>>4490895
Draw more boxes, anon. More. Boxes.

>>4491139
Here's a box in a 3-point perspective, You're supposed to be able to do this freehand.

>>4491098
thanks I hope I can learn to use the talent

>>4491109
im kinda confused, are the boxes warped too much

>>4491139
until I can freehand them ?

So, should I kill my self now or later?

>>4491068
It's not really that bad, just keep at it anon!

try drawing architecture from reference freehard itll rly help with presepective stuff

>>4491158
Yes. You're supposed to be able to "feel" the vanishing points and draw the boxes using them. That's what studying perspective means, basically. So draw more boxes, and do the Drawabox challenges. Just don't be overzealous about it, you can burn out.

>>4491161
i like it, but i guess the jank isn't on purpose.

Hi, sorry if I asked this before but this is my current level how do I improve?
I feel like I plateaued.

I've been stuck here for about a year if not longer.
I don't know how to improve.
People have said to work on your anatomy so I practised and tried to learn anatomy. Others have said to stop symbol drawing so i visualise and draw 3d shapes now. Others have said to add gesture, so I try to make them more dynamic. Others have said to try figure drawing, so I do that often now. Others have said to stop drawing anime and focus on real life people, and I even tried that.

I still haven't improved what so ever despite the numerous help I've gotten.

Please help, I hate being stuck at this level.

>>4491198
youve just listed all the solutions though..

Still grinding, never stops. Focusing on getting the eyes better first. I'm going mad at my incompetence.

isn't there a more interesting way to learn perspective

>>4491221
i wanna know too bro

>>4491210
Like I said I've done all those things but I still haven't improved.
Is this what it's like to really plateau?

>>4491233
When you plateau in weight training, you lower the weights and try something different.

>>4491233
post some of your poses or anatomy.

>>4491233
>Like I said I've done all those things
you did them wrong since you didnt improved

>>4490999
did you do all lessons?

>>4491198
Be ambitious. Looks like you've got floating head syndrome. You've got some cute animu girls there, now imagine something that multiple animu girls could do together, in a particular setting, and then draw that. Before you start, pick a painting you admire and try to emulate that coloring/rendering style. By trying to complete a project more ambitious than what you normally do, you will force yourself to learn new things.

I tried drawing a sexy potato

>>4491272
I want it to sit on my face and smell the brap

I have no idea what I’m doing. I want this to look like Enrico Marinis work but I’m totall beg in traditional
Has anyone ever made a guide on how to go from digital painting to traditional painting?

>>4491082
You need to clean your edges.

Keep in mind a material that is very reflective like your castle will take the color of the things it's surrounded by, AKA the sky. Don't go with a saturated blue everywhere, mix it up with some desaturated colors.

Try to avoid blurred clouds. Also your castle perspective is looking down, so i threw a ground plane in there.

>>4490964
i really like that image its cheerful and it has soul

ok guys because I dissapointed so many people I sat down and studied and I think I almost figured it out, the structure of the face

I study perspective actually, but I don't know if I should focus on one subject at a time or not. Is pic related a good idea ?

>>4491198
>Others have said to stop symbol drawing so i visualise and draw 3d shapes now. Others have said to add gesture, so I try to make them more dynamic. Others have said to try figure drawing, so I do that often now. Others have said to stop drawing anime and focus on real life people, and I even tried that.

Welp if pic related is what you are talking about, all of that is kind of a lie innit ? You can't not symbol draw and do Pokemon characters at the same time, they literally have sticker faces in the games.

If you want to do all of that you can really do anime girls at the same time. You'll need to work on real life drawing, grinding some anatomy books, perspective fundies.

Show me what you got anon (practice wise), maybe i can help you.

>>4491294
structurally good but the proportions are really off on this one you know.

>>4491289
>You need to clean your edges.
That could take decades, since I only have a screenless tablet
>a material that is very reflective like your castle
actually it's supposed to be marble with bronze decorations

im supposed to draw pelvis, spine and rib cage like you can see below but im having a hard time drawing rib cage for the girl on the top, can anyone help me

>>4491310
>That could take decades, since I only have a screenless tablet
Not that guy but bro, I draw on a screenless tablet. My whole digital art class drew on screenless tablets and #1 rule of that class was "if you can't finish your work in time, clean the edges so it looks better"

Stop making excuses. If a 45 year old woman who is computer illiterate can clean up her edges on a screenless tablet, you can too. Retard.

>>4491310
uhhhhh... dark marble is super reflective and bronze is pretty reflective too.

But really the advice applies even on low reflectivity material (ambient lighting, holding back saturation, avoid blurry form)

>>4491300
these are what my figure drawings tend to look like.
I give it a line of action for gesture then try to put in 3d shapes and build off of that

How do i grind fundies exactly?
Where do i learn how to do them to begin with to then grind them

>>4491198
your upper body is fine, but your lower body needs some work, and also your clothes

>>4491294
she has a horse face and the ear is starting too low

>>4491198
>People have said to work on your anatomy so I practised and tried to learn anatomy
if you draw legs like this you need to go back to anatomy

I wish there was a general for lower /beg/s.

How do you guys come up with stuff to draw? Do you have a process?

>>4491421
I draw what's on my mind.

Maybe concept stuff, not sure

I have been trying to build up the courage to emulate my biggest influences but I am too intimated by how better it is than I am. I need help.

>>4491461
Just do it. If it turns out bad then don't show anyone.

>>4491410
It would just have the same problems as /beg/ vs /int/. Too much shitposting about how people should go to one thread or the other. Doesn't actually serve a purpose beyond allowing shitty artists to stroke their egos. Etc.

>>4491476
I don't want to show anyone anyway. It is a personal struggle for myself.

>>4491068
I don't actually think it's that bad either.
Mostly you just have to check your angles before you commit, most noticeably for me the left side of her face and the angle the arm is coming in at.
For example the angle from her cheeck-bone to her chin isn't as steep, making it look like the jaw is jutting out.
Also the facial features are proportionally to small.
Just keep at it.

>>4491096
Based

>>4491294
>because I dissapointed so many people
I don't think you have to worry about that too much.
It's mostly an inevitability for anyone that posts regularily and shows promise.
Eventually people will reeeeee at you for not managing to change your approach fundamentally from piece to piece.
I think all the attention you're getting, negative or not, is ic's way of telling you you're most likely gmi.

Another attempt, another failure.

>>4491331
Yeah i recognize some quickpose in there. Ok anon, gestures are not really a good exercise to train form. This would be studies.

Slow down chief, take your time and analyse the forms in the reference. Pick one and do a deliberate study (if a figure sounds too complex start with objects).

You will find small clues as to where the horizon line is (here is probably somewhere at half height). Observe how her skin texture seems to describe a downward facing curve below her left ass cheek. How the texture seems to go the other side starting above the butt.

Just try to appreciate the model (trace it at first if you have to). But observe it carefully. To find the volume in space once you have your horizon line it's just a simple truth :

>things that are above the horizon line go downward when they turn away from the viewer. ellipse look down above the horizon line

>the reverse is true below the horizon line.

>>4491331
Just do some wireframing (like i did in that example). And maybe complement that with deliberate long drawing/value studies too.

what do i do if what i to draw something but know that i am not good enough?

>>4491294
only studie reilly or proko-loomis method for the next week. post results

>>4491585
>Draw it anyway
>Fail
>Get a little bit closer to getting it right the next time

>>4491580
this drawing awakens a primordial fear inside of me for some reason

Any crits on this before I attempt color? Pls help with the hands.

Practicing figure and drapery. Crits welcome

anyone remember the name of that computer program where you would practice straight lines and ellipses and it would tell you how accurate you were?

Sketch from imagination

damn you guys suck at this haha

haha i'm really out here doing better than you right now
me too

>>4491700
>>4491705
This is /beg/ how is that an accomplishment?

>>4491570
what did you study to get this good?

Quick sketch from imagination

>>4491947
cuack

>>4490825
crit?

>>4491981
It's meant to be a pout :(

I wish I could detect if my art is shit earlier than hours after I've already finished.

>>4492020
I just wish my art wasn't shit.

>>4492026
We'll get through this someday, we'll all make it.
Even if my words are hollow, it's better to live the delusion now and suffer later than it is to suffer now and forever.

>do a 100 quick gesture session
>sometimes feel like i'm capturing the pose and feeling the flow perfectly
>other times feel like a scribbling retard
i'll reach your level someday, vilppu

I just keep fucking it up

>>4492046
>can't even post image

Oh I'm laughing now. I will probably do 30 minutes more and go to bed.

Quick sketch from imagination

>>4492054
Something about it I find very depressing.

>>4491570
ok thanks, i'll try

>>4491999
That penis looks stiff and out of proportion. If it is a self-portrait we could do some nude/gesture studies together and you know, feel the form :)

>>4492120
resize your photos

Try again tomorrow!

Value study of George Washington
Are my edges ok and values?

>>4492188
Does that look like George Washington to you?

I tried to fix the main problems on the right but not sure if I can see all the problems.

>>4491456
Asukafag, since you're leaning more on the fundies side than the /alt/ side, I urge you to draw male heads. You're tunnelvisioning on female heads right now. Take a break and add variety. Draw male heads, particularly mature/old people as their features are more apparent.

>>4492228
Spotted another issue with the skull not sure if fixed though.

>>4492054
Spooky. I like it.

>>4492092
im down to clown baby, just send me your full name, billing address, credit card info, and ssn ;)

>>4492248
And tried to fix the eyes too. Fuck me this is neverending. Is there anything I got right? Fuck. FUCK. FUCK FUCK FUCK.

what i'm working on atm, anything helps

>>4491257
no should i do "lesson 2"

>trying to do construction and anatomy
>pose is stiffening up more than a dick on viagra
What do i do?

>>4492349
Exaggerate the pose even more so that the great stiffening of realism and anatomy still leaves it dynamic.

Just inked this piece digitally. I can't help but think it feels flat around the torso region. Anything you guys notice I can do to fix that? Should I add more wrinkles on the overalls?

>>4491689
Now finish it

I'm really happy that I'm finally pleased enough with what I draw that it motivates me to finish it. I'm finally having fun. I know I lamed out the arm, but maybe I can now stop calling myself a /beg/

>>4492400
Ah nvm, I still can't draw decent legs.

>>4492400
Mid beg

>>4492400
>>4492401
Like poetry. The struggle of the artist encapsulated in just two posts.

>>4492404
You got it. Being intermediate implies you're halfways between a beginner and the best artists. It's a lot

>>4492400
At least you didn't hide the other hand and you used it, you also have a fine palate and appreciate the DFC. Mind the torso next time as you gave her closer to a male's torso but nevertheless delicious and quite feminine.

>>4492408
I was going for child like hips but maybe it wasn't a good idea :))

>>4492417
You need to mind the upper torso especially for females, the pelvis will be slightly larger and flared out.

Be honest, am I on the right track? I've literally never done digital coloring before so any tips would be greatly appreciated

Im trying to learn from hogarth and trying to replicate what i see paying attention to what the text says but it feels like im trying to draw pic related.

>>4492345
"Hello doctor? I'm dehydrated, should I drink this glass of water next to me?"

How do i know when im out of beg??? Ive been practicing all quarantine and i finally think i made some progress. wip

>>4492470
You're out of /beg/ congratulations get the fuck out.

90 minutes in and I draw like a middle-schooler

>>4492470
neck feels weird

>>4492519
how do i make it closer to the ref?

>>4492400
how did you get so good what books did you read

High heels are ideal body proportions?

>>4491068
She's not so hot anon, it's hurting my feelings

>>4491198
What are you even trying to improve? Determine what you want to improve about your drawing and the set out a path for it. Do you want to learn how to shade or sculpt the body better? Pick one then learn the skills and apply them.

How tf do you render hair?

how do i paint skin

>>4492463
do i have to know how to construct a tank before moving on

Fuck this shit I cant do a good linework with the tablet

What kind of joint is the one connecting the foot to the tibia?

>>4491410
honestly your starting to early to make your own oc, give yourself another 2 months of studying anatomy and practice, this whole virus should be giving you plenty of time to pick up the slack

>>4492650
>>4492650
https://line-of-action.com/

Practice by looking at how light lands on the body.
I like to do it in grayscale sometimes so I can focus on just the light, and focus on colour seperately.

Be confident, start with a brush at 100% opacity, so that you can't overblend the colours.

Feel free to colour pick the original picture you're studying, look at what shade it is on the colour wheel and if you had the same part of your picture the same shade.

~el free to post even the smallest ex

it is from photos

This year, I've been focusing mainly on digital instead of traditional because I wanna learn how to color/render properly. This last month, something hasn't felt right so I opened up my sketch book from last year and was blown away by how fun the drawings looked. Everything looked better compared to what I've created this year. Did I somehow lose my soul, transitioning to digital? Should I keep going?
This isn't to hate on digital, i'm legitimately curious to know if this is a normal occurrence

>>4492708
pyw

>>4492709
n...no

>>4492708
Normal occurrence for two years then you bounce up better.

>>4492704
Do one of the following:
1) Stop chickencratching
2) Set chickenscratch layer to between 12% opacity on a white background, create a new layer and line it without chickenscratching

>>4492704
(cont)Other than the chickenscratch it looks quite good, work on line confidence.

>>4492714
just go ahead and post em coward

>>4490825
Wired af seeing my shit as op.

>>4491096
>>4490605

Thank you so much for the advice!/pointers
How do I go about learning about the facial features and stuff?
I never learned fundies and pretty much makeup everything I draw but I know to improve I need to learn but don’t know where to start? I feel the sticky and loomis is good if you never drawn before but I have and don’t want to start from square 1 if I can help it.

How are my noses?

fellow people drawing humans, how many of you can draw a perfect tank

>>4490991
Alien skull

Is drawabox any good?

>>4491096
BASED. blog?

>>4492728
i am in your same boat but I am doing drawabox. but to be honest i fuckign hate it

>>4490991
What autism am i looking at here, it feels like im looking at scotts book

>tfw loomis heads are starting to click in
>>4492704
I like the head to the right anon. Keep it up.
>>4492470
Looking good so far anon. I'd like to learn how to paint like that. You should soften the edges on her right side.
>>4492282 >>4492674
Work on your lines anons, say no to chicken scratches.
>>4491096
Blog? You've been helping us for a while.

>>4492764
I was thinking of doing that just for the line practices. My hand is shaky af when I draw. Probs why I abuse a soft brush so I won’t have to use lines as much but it looks like mush which isn’t much better than chicken scratch.

>>4492773
Who care about chicken scratches when half the head is missing? Priorities my dude. Chicken scratches can be cleaned up but bad anatomy can't be fixed with nice looking lines you muppet.

>>4492777
i feel like moving on because i really dont feel like drawing insects and tanks.

Do I NEED to learn the name of every bone and muscle in my body to be good at anatomy? I feel like I'm falling asleep every time I look at an anatomy book

>>4492782
Which one are you referring to, this guy? >>4492282 It looks like he's trying to manage what he can at his level and given the subject, he even addressed the symbol drawn eyes. Clean confident lines are a habit and must be practiced as early as possible. Besides, forms on the female head can be tricky as they are more subtle, I'd have a hard time myself. If he did a male head maybe I couldve pointed out a thing or two.

>>4492773
honestly blown away by how good you are each time you post, great work

>>4492789
I see drawing tanks helpful for planes and perspective but insects... I don’t see why?
Can you post your work?

>>4492799
Yeah that cunt.

>>4492807
Thanks anon, you too keep it up. This quarantine has given me time to draw again.

i think im getting the hang of it

>>4490825
Going through the Loomis drawing heads and hands but I can't really grasp how to use the units with them being arbitrary measurements, I'm not used to using stuff like that. Admittedly gave up on the left one but thought the right one was going well until I actually looked at it. Is there anything immediate that I can read up on how to solve, some oversight maybe?

>>4492831
another loomis

>>4492832
Look up visual measuring / sight size drawing and plumb lines. If you ha e too much trouble with this, use a grid at first. It will be very slow at first but don't worry, the goal is accuracy and you will get faster with experience.

>>4492810
like you said, i make up everything. no real understanding

>>4492838
Will do, conveniently have a gridded book, will that work? How long should I spend per day on getting this right? Thank-you for your help!

>>4492838
How people do this digitally?

>>4492839
a lot better than most posters on ic

Literally just started drawing 24 hours ago

Thoughts so far?

>>4492866
fuck you :)

>>4492866
24h it too much for such drawing.
eyelashes somewhat creepy
tear thingy have weird shape.
thumbnail looks neat.

>>4492866
i mean it does look good but anybody can copy bruh. you're not a genius desu.

>>4492873
>>4492870
> you're not a genius desu.
Seething right in front of a prodigy

>>4492878
post something aside from a close up of a single feature please.

>>4492863
thanks, whether tat is true or not i want to become better

>>4492871
Thanks for your input, I can't into eye brows or eye lashes properly, and yea the thumbnail looks sick.

>>4492873
What do you mean? I didn't trace it if thats what you're saying. I did use a step by step tutorial though. Ill post my other two attempts ITT soon

>>4492878
Kek


And holy fuck bros it looks fucking insane when I fuck with the contrast settings. Is this a cool thing to do in the art community or is it frowned upon???

>>4492901
playing with contrast and filters and shit is one of the main things you have to do to appeal to general audiences.

>>4492901
>the thumbnail looks sick
>it looks fucking insane
please cool your autism friend

>>4492905
I see, feels a bit a fraudulent.

>>4492922
s-sorry pls no bully

>>4492933
no rules just tools

>>4491294
Did you purge your twitter? Why baka.

>>4492650
Is that my boy Ross

>>4492873
I couldn't copy shit in the first 24 hours. Or the first 24 weeks.
If he's not lying then that's pretty damn fantastic for 24 hours, assuming "started 24 hours ago" means "literally never attempted to draw anything before".

>>4492345
yes, do all lessons + the challenges

>>4492753
it is

can I learn drawing on a tablet or should I start with traditional

critique/death threats welcome

>>4492753
drawabox is a meme

>>4492543
>>4492470
The shadows on her trachea don't match the ref so it feels like it protrudes in a weird way

im never gonna draw a checkboard. useless

>>4492947
Yeah you could bro, this is the tutorial i followed

https://rapidfireart.com/2013/05/08/how-to-draw-eyes/

2 male heads

>>4493049
why do you always make faces so long?
atleast use liquify and push the features up? flip ur canvas?

What sucks the most?

>>4492404

pyw

>>4493049
Seems fine lengthwise, usually the head is as wide as it is from chin to hairline.

>>4492773
>>4492282

Okay another attempt at this head. No scratching edition. Construction lines don't count I think.

>>4493062

Yuri.

Drew this using Loomi's guide. Is it good?

>>4493090
looks like my dad

>>4493091
I'm sorry.

>>4493094
how come? i'm going to print this out and put it on my wall. i love my dad :))

>>4493102
wholesome

>>4493087
Did you use a reference for this? Now that you fixed your lines, it does look better now, and mistakes are more apparent which means you can address them. If you mirror your drawing horizontally, you can see that the eyes are uneven. In that view, the eye positioned away from the viewer (which means her left eye) must not be wider than its counterpart. Also, remember that ideally, the distance between the eyes must be equal to one eye width. This is assuming a front facing head, this distance decreases as the head turns to the side. In your drawing, the eyes are way too apart, fix their width, and place them closer. Also I can tell you have some idea on the form of the female head, keep it up.

okay guys.. so after drawabox do I jump into anatomy?

>>4493125
Wait u finished drawabox already?

>>4493123
Yeah this ref. Thanks for the advice.

>>4493125
You can do them in parallel. Learning is not about waiting to master one area before you move on to the next. Otherwise, you can burn out by focusing only on one area. Add variety by studying other areas.

>>4493135
okay thanks, do you have any book suggestions ?

>>4493134
Since there's a ref, you can disregard the recommended eye distance. Although >>4492282 is less clean, it's actually more accurate than your redo. Compared to the reference, your redo has a higher cheek bone, less puffy cheeks, lower and more pronounced jaw line, and again, wrong size of the eyes given the angle of the head.

>>4493146
For anatomy? Most recommend Hampton's book. Personally, I unironically watch Proko then do studies of photo references.

>>4492571
None. Just draw what you don't how to draw

>>4493162
really? thats inspiring cause I HATE BOOKS

>>4493049
It's a start. They still look feminine, a manifestation of your sameface syndrome. For the head to the left, the nose and mouth are too low. Remember that the bottom of the nose should be in line with the bottom of the ear. Also eyes are way too big. Female heads can be forgiving with large eyes, but for male heads you need to be more on point, smaller than what you usually draw. Lastly, avoid too much curves on male heads. Instead, use angles or straight lines to define the jawline,cheekbone, etc. I suggest drawing from reference, your visual library of male heads appears to be non-existent. It doesn't have to be all the time, mix it up with your usual routine of figure drawings.

how can I improve this image (aside from the hands, I'm watching some tutorials)

>>4493218
Well, I actually skimmed through some but I didn't get anything out of that. I hope you don't hate thinking because you have to be really conscious in every step of your process. There's also not being sure if you're doing the right thing because you have no guidance. But I'm sure it works. This is where I was half a year ago.

my take on skarmory

>>4491050
Appreciate it. Let me add texture next time.

>>4493247
what do you do on ic then? do you do portraits or studies and stuff

>>4493261
It's mostly realism studies. I don't post very often here, but when I do it's often not anime.

>>4493147
>>4493087
Yet another attempt. My hand hurts. But my soul hurts more.

>>4493285

Remember that the eyelids have thickness

>>4493288
Yeah I made the line stronger not sure how else to show that it has thickness. : /

>>4493273
ah, got it, was feeling really lost in art

>>4493285

>>4493288
I'll have to do more eyes I dunno. My noses are starting to look okay but mouth and eyes are still shit. If I draw them big with all the forms they look okay but at a distance no idea how to make it look right. Mouth is still a pain as well because of all the tiny forms that gets lost I dunno.

>>4493300
Yeah but those eyes are huge with giant eyelids. The ref's eyelids are like just poking out a little she's asian as fuck.

>>4493374
girl soiled herself :\

>>4493374
have you ever tried to get better at drawing

>>4493374
Very cute anon

>>4493304
Gave it a quick go, I still see plenty of eye lids and folds to work with.

>>4492054
It makes me feel lonely. Nice

>>4492728
Ok you can get decent faces done with minimal fundies anon. Even symbol drawing is fine if you can rotate it space. Basically if the features follow the direction of the "face plane", it's gonna look fine.

If you can't picture where to begin i'd recommend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBv5z0Y2odE and do the exercises in order. Just having that sheet of paper folded in space is gonna be sufficient to get a good anime face going.

>>4492729
Good noses anon, you can start practicing something else

>>4493049
the right one has good shapes anon. The left one is pretty wonky (hairline is not correct, cheek bone misplaced, jaw wonky)

>>4493476
Looks the same as mine, now we're both in the shit. I think Sinix said eyes need more stylisation otherwise it just looks flat I'm gonna try some eyes studies tomorrow and figure this shit out.

Any opinion on this?
I'm deseperately searching for a book with an in-depth and complete exposition of the human body. It's kinda the first result on google search.

>>4493503
dude you are angles are off, especially the one in the bottom unless it was on purpose

>>4490825
Why cant i render properly?

>>4493546
That's a fucking great book. I think there's a PDF of that one in the art book thread if you'd like to look through it and see if you like it.

>>4493636
You are totally right it was fast and sloppy.
Just demonstrating you can get away with a face plane when doing faces.

Your redline is correct

eye lashes are so fucking dumb

>>4492841
As much as you can throughout the day, really.

>>4492839
Which are you asking about? For sight size you just use your stylus to measure with like you would anything else. For grids you just make sure that your ref and your canvas are the same size and then if you throw a 1"x1" grid on the ref you put the same size grid on your canvas. Just make sure the grid layer is locked so you don't accidentally paint on it for when it's time to take the grid off or paint over it.

>>4493648
this is bizarre. maybe can pass as modern art thing
armpit looks like stretched texture

for rendering you need to know where light source is in space and normals of surfaces.

>>4492841
Also idk what you mean by gridded book.

Ideally you want to get a photo and in traditional media you'd be putting a grid over it with plexiglass and clip that over it so you can take the grid off of your reference if it's on top of details you need to see. That way you could do value work as well as visual measuring.

I failed to mention the process is go in drawing the shapes of the objects and get the angles right, even if they're very general and you need to cut out pieces like you're sculpting with the smaller angles. Then when that's done you do the same with shadow as well as making out the brightest highlights. When it's time to fill out tones go background>shadows>midtones>highlights and then blend and finally render. Make sure you're not flattening forms out and you're drawing along with them so the grain of the paper or your paint strokes or whatever show form as best you can.

Can someone explain how to consistently apply this pink line to the sphere? Loomis calls it the ear line and I think Pin2d calls it a coating line in their tutorial. Neither of their descriptions help me to understand where it belongs.

>>4493648
You are gonna need some value composition before rendering or it's gonna look really flat.

Just a cast shadow on the table should already make it look less uncanny.

>>4493648
maybe this can help
establish a light source and a color temperature or mood for the scene

>>4493729
Your sphere is off. You can easily find where the line goes using perspective. Slice the sphere along the equator and bring your middle line through it to the back. Bisect the line in that little plane you've made and you'll find the middle of the side of your sphere. Just like finding the middle point in a cube, got it?

>>4493648
You’re halfway there to pic related

what the fuck are you talking about loomis? how does any of this help me? x1000

What's the best way to colour in Krita? I can't figure out the most efficient way to, I dunno, limit areas so my colours don't bleed in each other? Something with clipping or transparency masks.
If there's a "Krita: how to colour linearts for complete retards" video I'd love to see it.

>>4493766

>>4493775
Color in a layer underneath the lineart.

>>4493648
draw more on paper

>>4493766
this was last year right, i wonder what will be this years wors art

>>4493766
but so much effort and care. petal shadows, fishes. Fascinating delusion

>>4493785
Nah that image is years old, maybe 4-10 years. I remember seeing it as an established meme years ago already.

>>4493803
If that guy got some actual instruction he would probably have a far higher chance of making it than anyone else in /beg/ right now. His autistic dedication could make up for any little bit of talent that we might have.

>>4493806
really, i been here only 4 years and last year when was posted nobody call it out as a repost

>>4493751
Yes. Thank you for the help

>>4492866
Alright, now draw the other side to match.

>>4493662
Typing the name of the book and "pdf" on google is enough for most of the arts manual for some reasons.
Thanks for the feeback, I doubt I will find more exhaustive ressources there.

>>4492020
if digital then make it a habit to flip the canvas, makes you see it with a fresh pair of eyes

>>4493687
>>4493705
I usually have an hour time-slot at 10:00 that I use to draw, should I try to squeeze more time in somewhere? The book in question is a mathematical one so its all square-y. That does sound like a good plan, will use it. So I should, pardoning the pun, de-construct the constructon process? I haven't thought about the actual angling, thank-you for pointing that out. I'm going to try doing that tonight, hopefully will turn out well. I will buy some plexiglass and see if I can copy-paste a grid over a reference image then go from there with the actual drawing, would that be alright for the time being?

What the fuck, how do you figure out where the jaw is with these measurements? It's not just (brow to base of nose ) * 2.

new thread

>>4494012
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>>4493546
Here anon https://mega.nz/file/Yxo3mKTI#SUlFSR4fqVkSW2gkCC0jLAQaDPgGzLg-mVN8LS_WkCM

>>4493013
Cute boyo

>>4493085
I may not be the best, but im not your average fare

>>4492810
you are that guy from op pic right ?
Cool stuff mate

hit me

>>4493749
>>4493766
Kek