/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Should I get an ipad 10.5 from 2017 and Apple pen 1 for 500 bucks or a 2018 ipad and apple pen 2 for like 800 dollars
I already have a desktop and tablet too. I just want something neat and portable

>>4479212
I would like to begin this thread by thanking those who answered my questions in the past. Thanks.

How can I tell when something is too noticeably different for people? The kind that makes something look "off model". I keep noticing the subtlest differences whenever I try to redraw something even if it's simple and think its not good enough as a match. Top is my first attempt done freely, second is while looking at my first, third is doing it from mem. Does improving this rely on just muscle memory built from practice?

Bump

>>4479216
Pencil 2 is legit, double tap, and inductive charging. It has a flat edge, and matte finish, it feels so much better than pencil 1

do you think it's cute?

>>4479747
Guess i should go for the newer stuff then while I'm already spending so much

>>4479749
nah

I hope this doesn't sound creepy, but I'd like to study how to realistically depict injuries. Any ideas where I can look for photo references on wounds/injuries, how various types of damage affects different parts of the body etc? Just googling it tends to give me over the top levels of gore, I'm hoping to see more minor cases.

>>4479749
yah

how the FUCK do i sketch and how the HECK do i make them look good?

What's better, TvPaint, Toon Boom or Adobe?

how do i into pen pressure? everything is too sensitive almost like im making ink blotches. whenever i do any stroke it also looks poor like i have a shaky hand. im very new to digital.

>>4481509
you can go into your tablet settings (wacom, huion, whatever it is you use) from your start menu and adjust what stroke gets what kind of line. i like mine set pretty stiff, otherwise i feel like im spilling ink everywhere

>>4479285
>>4481509
Take off the name op. It's a little embarrassing

>>4481538
oops

whats a good program for a beginner like me? I use ms paint but I feel like I need to start using a better program

How do I get something to look how I even want in one go? I'm sick of all these clear off looking errors I feel the need to fix constantly until something eventually looks right. It slows down my progress significantly and just ruins any fun I have.

What's a better cheap alternative display tablet to a cintiq.
A Huion or an Xp-pen? Or is the cintiq worth the money

>>4481568
Krita, fire alpca, medibang.

>>4481493
Practice line work, first page of Peter Han's book, Dynamic sketching goes into detail about this. Or you can go to drawabox and work on your lines there.

Why is everyone here idolizing Vilppu? Is he better than other figure drawing teachers like Steve Huston or George Bridgman?

On a related question, from whom should a beginner first study figure drawing? Loomis's figure drawing for all its worth looks fucking advanced as fuck and seems like he assumed you know how to draw people already.

So grinding good or no? Im reading alot of things saying you should grind out thousands of boxes or whatever and others saying to only touch on them lightly. Im not saying im gonna draw so many straight lines I give up on art but I do wonder whats up with this advice.

>>4482258
Try all of them and see who you like/you learn from the most based on the first few pages/videos. Sounds like you've looked at Loomis and decided he's not for you (yet). That's fine. On to the next teacher.

looking at getting the latest Photoshop to play around, have a few other programs (CSP, Krita, Procreate on iPad CS6, etcetcetc) but would like to learn the latest Photoshop
is there any reason to get the standalone subscription of Photoshop over the 'Photography' one? I mean, unless I want a portfolio creator? (I don't, lel) I don't know why I'd pay double.
ty in advanced.

>>4479749
It is an ugly fucking rat

>>4479285
I think the top one you did freely looks best

Can I make it if I believe in myself?

Is trying to recreate art you like good practice? I just began drawing this week really and am researching fundamentals between doodling whatever

>>4482431
that tends to be my problem i always feared. kinda sucks desu.

>>4479749
Is that a hamster? I love it! The fluffiness is amazing.

>>4481236
Go to gurochan

How big should my signature be?

Is paying for facebook and Instagram ads worth it?

can someone, in laymans terms, explain to me what exactly an artblock is?

>>4483463
its when you sit down to draw for the day and go "hnnnnnnnnnnrrrrrrgggg I can't think of anything to draw at all" and then make a twitter post about it

>>4483702
wait people actually try to think about what they draw before they draw it?

>>4479212
is it too late to star drawing at 24?

How do I get the real angle of a slope in perspective. Let's say I want to make a ramp, or a stair and have it at a 40 degrees angle slope, how would I do it?

>>4484146
Read Perspective: From Basic to Creative. Actually read it and conduct its exercises. Its methods in the first half are kinda complicated but they open up the methods for the second, creative half, which covers things like slopes in perspective or regularly repeating points on a line that is vanishing

>>4479212
a "trace" example please I saw some comments saying "that looks traced af" and I want to know what is a traced draw, just a little example
and also redline what is redline I saw "redline it"

>>4484151
Traced = they just drew over a photo or drawing someone else made

Redline = You make corrections to a drawing by drawing over it, typically done with a red brush. When someone says "redline it" they're telling people to correct the drawing

>>4482540
Yes. You can't make it if you don't believe you can.

which one the most up to date / better ic guide?

https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn ?

anyone here have a lazy nezumi pro cracked version?

>>4484307

Or the Big Sticky ?

Using a Wacom intuos 4 540. I'm trying to map the middle mouse button to the erasure side of the pen, but I can't find it as an option. Anyone got a solution?

>>4483780
This dumb fucking question is asked every god damn day

>>4484803
what have the answers been

>>4483463
like writer's block where the "flow" doesn't come as easily. like studying when exhausted and you read a sentence over and over again but you can't understand it at all, no matter how hard you try.

>>4484803
Yes and what's the answer?

>>4484898
The answer is that it's never too late to draw, faggot, and it says so in the sticky.

Is there a picture book with tutorials on drawing? Loomis is great but so wordy and his heads are unappealing

>>4485085
Jack Hamm

>>4485085
"How to draw Manga" books generally have few words to save on translation costs. Most are trash, but ones like Pic Related are unironically great. If you do study from one, though, make sure you're also studying Loomis or Bridgman at the same time to make sure you learn your fundies, not just anime stuff.

>>4479212
What's the best shape for constructions, I've been using triangles but what do you guys like

What book should I use to learn the fundamentals? I want to do my own fantasy graphic novel some say.

>>4485133
Construction of... what? Different tools for different jobs. Use the simplest shape you can that's closest to what you're trying to construct.

A sphere makes a good head. It does not make a good foot.

>>4485139
Famous Artists Course

>>4482301
It's to force you to think in volumetric shapes. Basically brute force you out of the symbol drawing stage. Grinding works for some people, but for others its completely useless and they just end up symbol drawing flat "cubes" for hours. Better method, imo, is deconstructing objects from life into simple shapes, then drawing them from new angles.

>>4485139
If you want to make a fantasy graphic novel, then either Drawing Comics the Marvel Way, or any How to Draw Manga book (like >>4485110 suggested). However, make sure you also study Loomis or Vilppu or something to make sure you don't miss out on any of the fundies.

>>4484307
>>4484326
Can someone answer this stupid question for me pls

How THE FUCK do I gain a following? Especially on instagram or twitter

>>4485366
>how do I find gold in the Klondike
yeah buddy

>>4485366
Post REGULARLY and CONSISTENTLY. This is the no1 most important thing
Do fan art of relevant subjects (there certainly are relevant franchises that you follow?)
Use tags appropriately
That is all

when practicing boxes like these in perspective

do you actually need to draw all these lines without any assistance...?

no stabiliser, no line tool, just freehand it?

>>4485438
Yes

>>4485438
Yea
By the way anon, don't keep your head in these boxes for too long

>>4485439
>>4485448
jesus christ
how the fuck
i was having fun copying reality
now I literally just want to throw away everything and kill myself
my hand and shoulder hurts now and these are the straightest lines I could draw

>>4485459
Don't worry anon it's looking good you're not a human ruler
And go back to having fun then, copying reality never hurts, just be sure to try applying the rules of perspective and construction you learned doing boxes. Because that was the point of drawing boxes: understand how objects work in a 2d spaces.
Best is to draw 2 or more objects next to one another

>>4485472
this is torture

>>4479212
I'm still a little lost on how I should lay out my practice schedule if I'm starting from scratch.
Unfortunately I'm the type of person who'll constantly second guess if my approach is the "most efficient", no matter which new skill I'm trying to get into.
And especially since it'll probably take at least a few months until I'll see any sort of improvement with drawings, I would love to get a few pointers where to begin an what to do, during the limited time I can dedicate to drawing every other day or so.
I've been thinking about picking up "Drawing with the Left side of the Brain", I've heard some nice things about it. Aside from that I'm pretty much clueless.

>>4485153
Fuck Loomis, I'm doing hogart. I'm not wasting my time looking the fundamentals of twinkdom.

For Twitter interactions, do I join a fandom that I commit myself to and that I make fanart of? Or how does this whole thing work?

Will I ever be good at art?

is this how I do it?

>>4483081
If you want people to find you, big enough that it's still legible if your image gets downsized to 640pixels and as a low quality jpg. Not much bigger

Who's the artist that made this?

>>4479212
when drawing clothing/accessories over the body, is it preferable to lightly draw the body underneath and then cover over it/erase the underlying skeleton or just draw the clothing/accessory as an extension of the body itself ?
total /beg/ here

Any advice on grinding perspective for anatomy? I'm trying to learn anatomy too but learning both at once sure is a ride

In Clip studio paint can you change the Tonal Correction from Hue/Saturation/Luminosity to Hue/Saturation/Value ?

>>4483780
>>4484875
>>4484898
>>4484803
there's no such thing as it being too late to start learning something, What does it even mean for it to be too late? If you think it is "too late" it's just honestly because you don't care enough and try to use "too late do do it" as a coping excuse or because you barely have any discipline to get out of your comfort zone

why does my pencil taste salty?

>>4485532
I'm still awful at drawing so you should take this with a few grains of salt, but this is my advice: start by making a serious effort at drawing whatever it is you want to draw. Make a few attempts at this. Experiment and see what problems you are able to identify and fix on your own. Yes, you're going to do a terrible job, but that's something you'll have to deal with no matter what learning route you take.

After doing this, find some material that will help you fix whatever you think is the most important and fundamental issue you encountered, be it basic line drawing/pencil control, perspective, symbol drawing, figure drawing, whatever. The problem with going straight into exercises is that you might not fully understand what you're supposed to be taking away from them unless you've already made some serious attempts at drawing. Grinding exercises without fully understanding what you're supposed to be gaining from them or why you're doing them is not very efficient, nor is it likely to be good for your motivation. You should be seeking out solutions to specific problems rather than working out some sort of regime you can follow to become good at drawing.

Anybody knows a relieble online side to buy Art materials? I can't find what I need on Amazon

How bad is drawing on a non laminated screen? The only screen tablet I have right now is laminated, but I also kinda want a portable tablet to sketch with procreate for easy video uploading, aka Ipad. Of course ipad pros are expensive as shit and you have to buy the apple pen seperate. They released a 2019 non pro model 10.2 inches that has procreate and is 370 bucks plus tax right now with 128 gbs, but the screen isnt fucking LAMINATED

>>4486415
The sketchbook thread has some links to online art stores. >>4450813

How do you get over the fear of the blank page?

>>4487389
Draw a line

>>4487393
How do you decide what to draw then

>>4487389
>>4487403
So this is the power of modern artists

>>4479212
> how can i focus at single work (release several project and never finish what the fuck is problem)

>how much time spend rough sketch?

>>4479212
I'm going through perspective made easy right now and something is bugging me. Why do objects warp as the get closer to the vanishing points? This hasn't been explained and it's really bugging me.

What is (You)r preferred program and why?

>>4487502
Think of it this way. The vanishing point is the center of another image, just looking out from another perspective.
You begin drawing from your own perspective, but as it gets closer to the other one it stops being about your own perspective, and moving to a different one.

In video-spacial theory, this is because your perspective is static, but it affects what you're looking at in different ways, depending on the distance, lighting, and the angle.
A 30 degree angle at 10 feet might be a 10 degree angle at 300 feet, or some shit. It's all relative.

>>4487517
>as it gets closer to the other one it stops being about your own perspective, and moving to a different one

Thank you, that line helps me understand better.

Why does beating my meat, eating and vydia, feel so much better and less painful than drawing

>>4487505
www.jspaint.app
its got soul

>>4486212
You’re never too old to start art anon, but do you have the talent to do it?

>>4479212
what to draw if you dont know what to draw?
What to do if you are severely depressed and have absolutely zero motivaton to draw\paint?

>>4484307
sticky seems more up to date. but either one is fine. pick one and get started. you can also cross reference them if it makes you feel better, the general structure should be the same.

Where can i find dynamic figure drawing by hogarth, i tried the mega link but it died and the file i managed to get before was incomplete

I generally know how to get a box form drawn for construction purposes, but flounder at trying to make wedged forms look right. Any suggestions?

Is there some sort of site that randomly generates faces? Something like quickposes but for all different types of faces.

Can people really rotate shit like a cube and clinder in their heads? even multiple ones that make a person? I can picture it but rotation or movement seems impossible without it falling apart

Is learning how to write in cursive a good thing to practice? No one ever taught me, and coincidentally I suck at art

Where can I get casual poses to draw? I'm tired of pose websites using people doing backflips and twirls when I just draw casual poses.

>>4488896
I've heard that good handwriting is correlated with art talent, but I've also heard that bad handwriting is correlated with high IQ (because writing faster or something), so you can use that as a cope.

Cursive is useful because it's much faster and better for note taking. But it will not help your art.

Anyone knows a painting of two men masturbating behind a wall watching a sex scene? One of them is holding an oil lamp. It's pre-modern and taller than wider. Cheers

what are good exercises for:
A: Values (monochrome to be clear)
B: Colors and being accurate when drawing something from ref

>>4488069
Maybe the ic archives have the link, try searching in warosu
>>4488403
I don't understand im sorry
>>4488417
>>4488972
idk more sites than quickposes and line of action, but you can watch a movie and pause at random times if you guys want.
>>4488424
if it helps I can rotate really basic shapes like a cube or a teacup (my art is still shit btw), but I cant do complicated stuff like a human figure. Kjg and krenz can do it I think.
>>4489208
Idk
>>4489281
maybe photostudies, try not to colorpick, you guess the colors so you train your eye

Anyone else have to restart your computer everytime you want to use your wacom tablet?

I can draw lines in Photoshop, but the eraser side of the pen doesn't work, nor does pressure sensitivity. If I restart my computer, for some reason it works, but it's kind of fucking annoying to have to do this literally everytime I want to draw digitally.

>can now draw somewhat competently
>afraid to mess up a drawing so you don't draw at all
It sucks so much.

>>4489556
The sooner you get over that the better. One thing I learned as I transitioned from /beg/ to /int/ is that you're going to make thousands of drawings over the course of your art journey, therefore drawings are cheap. Who cares if you fuck one up, just do better on the next one. And a thousand drawings later, you likely won't remember that particular fuck up anyway... but you will have learned from it, and become better off because of it.

anybody know whats the reverse anvil sex position?
I can't find anything is driving me crazy.

>>4489567
So do i just rush the shitty drawings then?

How long should one do an exercise without break for optimal gains?

Is it possible to get by to draw things as a “projection” onto the drawing plane rather than trying to draw it as a 3d field

>>4489527
Reinstall your driver. Also, when it gets fucky you can try going into services and restarting the wacom service.

>>4490173
2-4 hours.

>>4490235
That's what you're supposed to be doing.

>>4482301
I think if you are doing any grinding, you should do it until it starts to feel like you can do them without focusing too much.

>>4490241
The former or the latter

>>4488424
>I can picture it but rotation or movement seems impossible without it falling apart
Get blender or any other 3D program then start rotating objects to get a feel for it.

>>4490241
>2-4 hours.
Oof. Alright, thanks.

>>4490246
Projecting 3d objects onto a 2d plane.

>>4482546
Yes. Ever heard of master studies? Very good if you want to incorporate elements of someone's work into your own, like the way they render or compose. Keep on your fundamentals though. Don't only do studies of artists you like because you'll just pick up their mistakes.

>>4485438
When I learned perspective sketching I started out using rulers until I was comfortable with it, then I started freehanding after I understood 3-point and rotating boxes.

>>4485565
Yes that's how you do cut-out shapes in perspective. Now learn to tilt and add those. Or find a vehicle of some kind (utility vehicles may be better) and recreate it.

>>4486475
It's honestly pretty infuriating especially when you've gotten used to a laminated screen.

>>4487389
Fill the page with a mid-grey background tone or some other color in that value range.

>>4487689
Draw anyways and reward yourself for it when you've hit your goal. I don't let myself go on the internet until I've done my work for the day.

>>4489281
A: I'd move "being accurate when drawing something from ref" up here. Use a grid at first and implement sight-size drawing technique. Then, when you feel comfortable, ditch the grid and go only to sight-sizing. (when your sketch is accurate and finished out you should be getting rid of the grid to do your values. Please do not try to do your values square by square. Fill them in with the forms of the object.)

Value studies. Find a photo with good values like in the new masters academy library, for example. Something simple like fruit at first. Fill your background tone in first and then go at it. Do this until you've gotten it down and are accurately picking values with your eyeballs. Then you move to color.

B: Do studies of color photos the same way you did values. After mastering value, you'll have 1/3 of what you need for color down and you'll feel more comfortable. Color is just value + hue + saturation. If you were talking about color accuracy when drawing from ref, it's just going to take time training your eyes. You should color-pick to see how close you were to the real thing and then learn how you're skewing the colors. Is the hue wrong? Is it too saturated/desaturated? Then keep going with what you know now.

>>4489281
>>4490276

B (cont):

Another way to learn to do color accurately is by color-picking a limited palette (no more than 10 colors, but try to keep it as little as possible) from your reference image. Set them aside on a separate layer, and do your study from your limited palette. You are not allowed to use any colors outside of the palette, so make sure you get everything you absolutely need first. What's the lightest color? What's the darkest one? What are the extremes in your range of colors in your midtones? Now do your study. Remember that you can blend things to make colors/values you don't have on your palette when rendering.

Also, big help to me starting out, was to make sure you're always going from the most general shapes down to the specifics, and progress your piece all at the same time. Don't render until you've blocked in. Don't block in until everything is sketched out. Etc.

Good luck!

>>4490276
>>4490283
Very kind and wholesome anon

Why does drawing feel like a lottery? Everytime I want to start a new drawing it's taking me at least 20 retires to finally settle for something that looks the least shitty and force myself to finish it because I already wasted too much time and in the end I'm not happy with the results. On other days drawings just sort of happen and I don't need to struggle to get them right. It really destroys all of my motivation to think that I 'rolled' a bad day again and there's nothing I can do about it and on top of that I'm too autistic to not draw on those days, so I always force myself to at least draw a scribble daily.

>>4490322
How do you approach your drawings? Do you start large and simple, or small and detailed? If you get the bigger picture right before going into the details you can avoid a lot of erasing and redoing of your drawing.

How do I get into nasty fetish communities so I can sell my work? I kinda wanna get that extra bread on the side so I can buy nice things

How does one study perspective? I've read Perspective Made Easy and learnt those basics from the Scott Robertson book but how do I grind perspective? Like, I know the theory, but I don't know how to apply it the way everyone that knows how to draw seems to? Basically what exercises do I need to do so it feels like second nature. I see artists here and on social media (and professionals) doing both figures and landscapes with clear perspectives without using those hellish grids that Robertson teaches. How can you draw correct perspective without rulers when your vanishing points are far off the page? I'm not looking for some magic secret technique, just genuinely want to learn and do exercises, I'm just lost.

>>4490712
draw in perspective
fix your mistakes
repeat

>>4490712
there is only one 'exercise' to get better at drawing and it's called drawing. choose subjects that play up the thing you're trying to focus on and then focus on it.

>>4490712
Like >>4490719 said.

Try to draw something in perspective with your gut feeling alone. Then when done, check it with rulers and and find out where you make mistakes. Repeat process until your drawings are somewhat accurate. Come back later in the future when you want to refine your perspective understanding even further.

>>4490719
>>4490749
>>4490757
Thank you for answering, I'll do my best then

>>4490332
I usually don't get past thumbnail sketching on bad days. I don't go in with details unless I think that the thumbnail sketch looks good.

Hey guys, know nay good 3D programs I can import models into for reference? Like I want to draw guns but I feel that references arent that good for a complex 3D form like that so I thought being able to move it in real time could be more useful

>>4490395
>>>/d/

>>4490836
Blender?

>>4490824
Then maybe you need to study up on composition and do lots of gesture drawings. You could also do thumbnails of frames from films. Keep working at it and don't give up.

Would i get banned on twitter if i posted drawings of erwin rommel or oswald mosley?

Why all the boomer books talk about dead people like michilango amd remeberandt, how is some old dead painter gonna help me draw animay tits

I'm a clueless fuck but I want to start my own comic or manga.
How do I go on about drawing the panels for each page and what should be the size of the pages? Is it better to draw the pages traditionally or digitally?
I don't have a graphic tablet at the moment (just a regular tablet without stylus), so I only stick with traditional drawing. Most of the materials or tools I have right now are really cheap, but is it important to have a g-pen for it?
What are some good mobile apps and art books I can use/read for making comic or manga, and what are the other things I should take note before starting?
Also, how the fuck do I learn to draw the backgrounds/scenery?

>>4479749
googly eyes

do tall people have bigger heads?

I haven't painted in almost 2 years now. And I'm afraid to get back into it. Should I start with still life to get back on track?

>>4479212
Is it bad to pose 3D models and use them as reference? There's a surprising amount of tools that let you pose mannequin models (usually pretty detailed ones at that) and as someone who struggles in general with referencing, they're honestly lifesavers. But I feel like by using them for reference I'm cheating or something and won't actually get better at art for it.

>>4492496
start with something fun, if you like still lives that would be perfect

>>4490836
looking up stuff on sketchfab is probably the lowest effort option.

>>4494470
Ok the thing about this is you need to make sure you understand gesture very well, otherwise you're just going to get stiff awful poses or body parts clipping through each other and shit that looks wrong. So I'd recommend posing your 3d models from pictures for gesture drawing to get a hang of balance in a pose first before you start doing your own. Aside from that issue it's totally viable for references. You just need to make sure you're doing it right.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Envy-i7-10510U-Pre-Installed-Fingerprnt/dp/B081D7C6CD/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?dchild=1&keywords=hp+envy&qid=1586916294&sr=8-17

Two questions is that any good for art? (I dont want an ipad and looking at that one for some light gaming too) and are there any battery free 4k+ pressure tilt pens that work with it?

why are artists artists

>>4495082
I have a similar previous generation envy x360 laptop, Honestly if you have a desktop or laptop already it would be better to go with a screen tablet for the money you would have saved, When it comes down for me atleast

Drawing on the envy feels un-natural and you'll get lots of finger smudges on the screen, Where as a cheapish screen tablet + laptop cooling fan as a stand was a by far better experience

I ended up going back to my old tablet instead of my envy as I bought the laptop for drawing, In your case it might be more viable to get a used gaming laptop with better specs for some light gaming and a cheapish screen tablet if in your budget and you seriously want a screen tablet

>>4495116
Because they are artists

How do I get better at drawing from imagination? I tried drawing a simple bust earlier at a 3/4th view with her shoulder up and couldn't even do that. Then with reference I'm able to draw the body at any angle as I try new things every day ans carefully try to observe. My brain just isn't clicking with perspective. I read perspective made easy and anatomy in perspective from imagination still feels far from what I can do

>>4495255
It's gonna suck but the same thing happened to me. You just gotta suck it and keep trying poses with a wire and then creating the body all from imagination. What it's recomended is that you have a reference but you almost don't look at it. First draw from imagination, make all the mistakes and use the reference as correction. It's about grinding smart and being brave enough to make horrid bodies at the start.

>>4495260
I guess I'll try that. I really just wanna be able to doodle things from imagination after working several hours a day using reference. I hate that all of my quick drawings come out even more uncanny and shitty. I tried doing pic related in a half hour and it has an infinite number of mistakes. I cant even get drawing hair in perspective. I drew out the skull and marked where the hairline would be too. My biggest worry is that maybe I'll never really get good at drawing because I'm not able to show the information I think I've absorbed. I'd be so much happier if I could pump out more appealing stuff when trying. Oh well, I'll just try drawing tomorrow and the next day etc.

>>4495255
You’d think drawing that a couple times would make you able to draw from imagination? Heh do it a couple hundred times and maybe a thousand to be able to shit it out with ease.

>>4495310
Yeah you're right, I just don't have the mileage. There's so much to cover to become good. From last Jan to today, I've probably finished 500ish drawings from sketches to finished pieces, estimated from my uploads and pacing. That's nothing really. I'm feeling inpatient to become competent

Should i be getting mad at myself that im erasing shitton when im trying to learn outta a book or will the need to constantly erase to correct just go away after time

>>4495423
Try to use pen or don't erase. Use faint pencil if you want to construct.

>>4495255

>>4489281

Can anyone recommend some good fashion magazines or sites/blogs? I want to get more ideas for clothing designs when I'm making characters and I don't want to make a new thread just for this question.

>>4479212
I'm finding it difficult to use fine-tip pens (Pilot Razor Point) on sketchbooks (Swathmore). Is this normal? I've heard that fine tip pens don't work well on graphite/charcoal paper.
I'd like to know how much of a dumbass I'm being, or if I'm just imagining things.

I've moved to digital drawing for a few days now, but I think I'm struggling with... actually completing an artwork lmao. Any advices?

>>4495432
Can't argue with this sassy shrimp image

How can i study light and shadow and value, edges ? how can i improve my observation skills and spot mistakes to correct them ?
I'm having a hard time at this part since i want to move into anatomy and describe the form using light and shadow.
any idea?

Is the anime study plan some anon posted here correct?

How to study anime/get better at imagination drawing/obtain a style/etc.:
>Find an anime reference you like (an illustration, screenshot, anime figure, 3D model, etc.)
>Find learning material that will help you reconstruct your ref using simpler fundamental elements
>Trace the ref using that construction (i. e. build over that image, don't trace it without giving it a thought and studying how it's built in 3d space)
>Copy the ref using that construction
>Draw the ref from memory that using construction
>Repeat the process for the same ref multiple times and mix in other refs
>After studying a lot of refs, drawing from your head will become easier

Also, is there a thing as too much time for one study?

Wtf is this “soul” bullshit maymay people spout constanty

>>4496267
That applies to whatever reference you have. Not just anime drawings

is there any good tutorials/guides on how to draw trees? i can't seem to figure out how to group the leaves as one form and/or where to put them.

When is cgpeers open? Today is the 15th, but it says registration is closed and invite only. Do I have to register at a certain time of day?

>>4479212
Probably a /beg/ question, but how do I develop line confidence? I'm working solely with digital so I have help from ctrl + z. Aside from what how can I work so my lines don't end up wavy or chicken scratchy?

>>4496716
registration closed indefinitely

I can't fucking get loomis down for the anime head shapes I want to draw. I want shapes similar to Raita's art. Any advice? Doing wide shapes to fit the features I have an easier time with than these thin heads

>>4496721
practice with pen and paper

>>4496760
>Raita
Get better standards, no offense. His art is fucking bad.
Construct the same way you would with a typical head, but just don't make things like the concave of the eye line as prominent, make the cheek and chin curve more subtle, etc.
Do you have an example of your work?

>>4496818
I'd feel bad posting my work again since I already did earlier.
Yeah I get people either love or hate Raita's work because of the style he chooses to draw in. I like plenty of other artists too but his work interests me a lot. I should hardly be worried about a style anyway. Being a /beg/ unable to mold a pleasant style because I don't know the fundies fully sucks

>>4496721
>I'm working solely with digital
Don't.

Work physically. Ctrl/z is a shitty habit. I don't even recommend using an eraser when drawing physically for most of what you do.

Do you want to spend most of your time drawing, or most of your time erasing? Make more drawings instead of polishing a turd.

>>4496911
Beginners don't have a style.

Style is a method of confident problem solving. It develops naturally

>>4496229
Spend more time drawing from life. Still life, figure studies (live, or mannequin).

Set a singular light source.

>>4496924
Yeah I say the same, I just want to wake up one day and feel like I know what do do. I'll draw random heads later with reference I suppose

>>4496319
I think 'soul' is a kind of subcategory of appeal or maybe objective/universal appeal. Meaning that you can connect to the drawing/painting eventhough you don't particularly like the content or the style. That's at least how I understand it.

>>4479212
Are people serious with all this furry animal shit? Why is it everywhere on the internet? I swear I want to throw my computer out the window and become a fucking monk or something to get away from all this shit.

>>4496983
95% of "art" is anime and furries and dragon dicks (digital, of course).

>>4496983
>>4496999
Hey I know this might be the first day on the internet for you, but try to take it easy okay? You can ignore furry porn and anime if you want. Just find the art community that you like and stick with it. If you're on 4chan, you're bound to see both of those things you don't like. Do you understand?

>>4497007
>If you're on 4chan, you're bound to see both of those things you don't like
I started trying to program basic 2d side-scrolling games and found later that a girl who's blog I was following to learn that stuff was a furry tranny with furry tranny friends. What the fuck you mean just ignore it bro.

So unfollow and move on you stupid simp

>>4497035
why does what she does or what she draws affect you though. i could see if she wouldn't shut up about her HRT or something and you were just following for coding tips but if it has no bearing on the actual information you want why should you give a shit

>>4497037
>>4497035

Hypothetically how would i extract pencil lead out of my chest if i were to so happen to hypothetically stab myself with a pencil in my chest

>>4497037
>>4497043
A grown human male wanting to be a female animal is not cool, is not right, is not normal ok guys? I'm not the weird one here. I don't even want be aware that these beings exist, its an assault on my sanity. When I become a monk my excuse to be sheltered from these people is that they are against my religion. Maybe Allah is the answer.

>>4497071
>its an assault on my sanity
Stop being a little bitch seeing other's artwork or abandon the hobby. Go become a monk right now and shut your asshole stupid /beg/. People like you are the ones who worsen communities

Where can I find Robertson's How to Draw? I feel retarded after some anon said he found it in 5 mins while I've been looking for a few days and still cant find it

>>4485565
Not too far off. Check back with the line tool or a ruler after drawing freehand, practice your swift lines and vary your lineweight just like drawabox taught you (and not like i did in this edit). You'll get there eventually, have fun along the way.

>>4497071
Sure but who cares. The average person isn't cool, right, or normal.

>>4497007
Eat a dick.

I teach art students. 99.99% of them that draw anime and furries are worthless, and never get out of their comfort zone.

The "deviant art/tumbler" cartoon jackoffs are largely wasting their time (if improvement is their goal).

>>4497146
Pyw

>>4497146
You probably teach like shit so you blame them for not improving kek

>>4497153
>Let's practice some fundamentals. Observational drawing, focusing on line, value, and composition.

>Continues to draw fox with lumpy titties, working on their "style"

Lmao

>>4497155
So make the lesson interesting gramps. Are you that out of touch? Is 4chan the only website you browse before you go to bed at 9?

>>4497165
>make the lesson interesting
Most of drawing is not fun, unless you enjoy working and getting better.

Everyone wants to draw hentai/furry sex/dragon dicks, but nobody actually wants to draw well.

>>4497165
Not the guy but they do have a point in >>4497155 and >>4497172.

The average person just wants results, and to be able to create something they're immediately satisfied with. For a lot of people this means drawing in a style they like, influenced by the things that they like, drawing what they like. Fundamentals, despite the name, aren't actually fun. You have to push aside the things you normally like to draw in exchange for more "boring" things that don't actually make you feel like you're palpably improving in the way that you want to.

Even the greatest teachers can't make you want to learn those things. The average person won't do studies on their own if they just want to draw. They can't see in the longterm how learning those fundamentals will help their art and their style, because they're focused on the immediate gratification of refining their style and drawing more of the things that they want to draw.

How do you actually use an art book? I know that some like Fun with a Pencil have explicit exercises to do, but Loomis' head and hands book describes how he does it, and then just has examples - so do I just use his description and have at it?

>>4497375
You use an art book as a resource when you want to study and improve in a particular aspect of your drawing.

Ideally you will already have some experience to compare against what we see in the book, and then you incorporate the strategies into your work to improve.

If you want a more step-by-step foundational approach, consider taking a college/online courses.

I got old tablet and some pens like these with it so I want to try digital
>why is the end rubbery and pressured too, are you supposed to use it?
>the white tip is completely gone, is it possible to change it?

>>4497407
Ah okay, thanks for the input. I had sorta been using them this way, but I wasn't sure if I was missing out on anything by not reading them cover to cover.

>>4497114
Library genesis

>>4497114
sadpanda has a how to tag with a shitload of artbooks, including robertson

I mostly work digitally and want to practice more when I'm tired and leave my desk cus i struggle with perspective. Drawing shapes should help if I just do it traditional right? I'm wondering if my brain would just disconnect the mileage between the two mediums. Why is perspective so hard lads

>>4498205
It's easier to practice perspective traditionally imo, tho not easier to get it perfect, because traditionally you can more intuitively deal with lines. And no, you won't lose the skill when switching because perspective sketching is about remembering rules like the idea of the eye-line, vanishing points etc

How do I copy a drawing without tracing it ?
essentially how do you breaking something down into simpler shapes ?

>>4497625
Your drawing program should be able to detect you using the eraser end and switch brushes or toggle eraser mode. You can buy replacement nibs for your pen by searching for its model name. You can pull it out with tweezers. I read somewhere that you could substitute a bit of plastic cord with the same diameter for the nib.

>>4485085
>Heads are unappealing
Get better taste, weeb

>>4498213
I see. Hopefully I see the fruits of my labor in time soon
>>4498233
Well cor copying, you have to observe carefully and always be comparing features within your own drawing. Like compare the distance of the eye to the nose in your drawing, and the reference that you're using, or how the nose tip lines with the cheek etc

>>4498251
Any books or tutorial recommendations

Would you consider it cheating to trace something for a fan project to make it as accurate as possible?
I'm not gonna make any money off it before anyone asks.

>>4498267
Will your fan proyect be shared online and may give you popularity? Yes then it is cheating.

At the moment the only I can just about do is copy a reference image by eye. Any deviation from that looks like hot garbage. How can I get better at drawing things that aren't just copies?

how do I find references to specific poses?? like if I want a pose where one leg is rotated to the side and the knee is kinda bending, or one where the left hand is touching the right side of the hip, you know something very specific that I don't know how to google

how do i draw like kai ikarahsi?

How do I resize images?

>>4499111
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+i+resize+an+image

Is it ok to upload work of others done by me?

>>4499496
As long as it is not for profit.

When I am in pen mode on my wacom tablet it gives off a smooth mark, but when I'm on mouse mode it get's little jittery. Is this normal or is there something wrong with the software?
Also which mode do you guys recommend? For me mouse seems a bit more natural but I don't know if the pen mode is better once I get used to it.

>>4499500
I copy it to practise and learn how they do certain things. The only profit in uploading it is to receive critique and advice so I can improve.
Maybe if I quote whi the original artist is?

>>4499587
For drawing or for using the mouse? Also wacom mouse is shit tier, I never liked using them.

For mouse use mouse mode. For drawing use pen mode and just get used to it. Using mouse mode with a pen would be fucking maddening.

>>4499596
For drawing with pen.
I had a feeling the pen mode is more professional and faster once you get used to it, but I'm kinda lazy to lift my hand around. But I guess it isn't that bad really.

Anyone know what kind of materials would be suited for a painting that'll be hung in a wet/damp area (bathroom)?

I'm trying to be more mindful of what my flat looks like cause I've lived like a messie pig all my life and since my bathroom looks rather shabby I thought about hanging a painting there to sorta juxtapose the shabbiness. thinking i'll do a copy of some ship-in-troubled-waters scene or something, i like those

>>4499593
>quote whi the original artist is?
This would be best, some artists get triggered by copy cats even if theyre not profiting from it.

>>4499617
>>4499593
i feel like referencing the original may be a good idea anyways because that'll help with the critique

>>4499615
Acrylic or oils on canvas should be fine. If you do anything on paper, make sure you put it under glass.

Pretty new to digital painting.

Should I use the mixer brush for blending? Or other methods?

Does this style have a name? Is it watercolor? Watercolor pencils?

>>4499703
If you have to ask that question, you're probably not very good at blending or mixing colors anyways

>>4479212
"Is this a god-dam"?

Is it possible to paint digital and make it look traditional (preferably with this rendering style? Any tips on how?

(art is by Omar Dogan)

>>4479212
Which site can I find good references to draw cute girls and cute "girls" (boys)?

How can I make myself like digital art more than traditional?

Just bought a Kamvas pro 20 and I've been tweaking the colors for almost an hour already and can't find anything good unless I bump up brightness to full.

Should I just mirror it in another screen to make sure the colors are right?

with this stimulus money i was thinking about getting an ipad (2018) model and the stylus gen2, a lot of other screen tables are either solely owned by wacom or just shit in general

Whenever I switch to eraser mode this "always use pressure for opacity" turns on. I can switch it off but it's fucking nightmare to do it every time i want to use hard eraser, is there a way to not make this happen?

why do almost all drawings done by childern look very silmilar like a tree draw basically as a lolipop, a house is basically a box and a triangle? is that what symbol drawing is

>>4501029
Yes

how the hell do i avoid back pain while drawing?

>>4479212
when is the right time to make a kofi and start doing commissions and stuff

>>4501477
Kofi/Patreon when your followers ask you for it. Commissions whenever you feel ready.

>>4501431
Developing good posture, getting a decent work surface, and not hunching over your paper/tablet/whatever.

any suggestions for a good drawing surface?
i used to draw on my desk (a wooden desk) but i could feel the asperities in the wood under the paper and it made it hard to draw straight lines. then i recycled a large glass pane and draw on top of that. however, my arm sticks to the glass eventually, making it really hard to have fluid movements again.

>>4501809
A large clipboard. You can prop it up to get an angled drawing surface and it's portable.

How to paint fabric like this guy?

>>4500511
Just slap a watercolor or paper texture over the finished painting. Also textured brushes help. Another option are filters (like noise).

>>4502294
>How to paint fabric like this guy?
>be good
>paint

There's no trickery and no "make good" button. Looks like the brush isn't even blending.

>>4502331
What I particullary like about this painting is the color choice. There are green, yellow, pink and purple hues in a fabric that's actually just supposed to be white, but somehow it works and makes the whole thing more appealing and interesting.

>>4502294
Practice for years
There's no secret to it

Is there any way to get better other than drawing a million fucking ellipses. I’m so fucking tired.

>>4502338
That's the be good part. The entire field of color theory is exactly about that.

Thee short of it is that the "white" is never actually white. If you're outside in a white shirt the lit part of it reflects the powerful yellow light from the sun, thee shade get's a lot of vibrant blue from the sky and the underside of the folds get green reflected off thee grass.

>>4502358
So basically warm hues for the highlights and half tones and cold hues for the reflected light?

>>4502438
In natural light - yes, but you could be in a red room lit with a cold lamp, hell you could be at a rave.
It entirely depends on the environment, It's simply that cool light if fucking uncomfortable so the people make most of the lamps warm.

>>4502698

Do I learn to animate after I learn to draw?

>>4502768
you can do both at the same time, but yes.

>>4502768
Do you want to do traditional 2d drawing animation or stop motion/3d animation with models you didn't make yourself? If it's traditional then >>4502965 if it's not you can choose to skip drawing but I don't recommend

>>4502971
Mixing 2d characters into 3d backgrounds

What I need to do to improve my hard edge/soft edge?

What do the letters in /ic/ stand for?

>>4503021
Use a sharp pencil for sharp edges, and a dull pencil for soft edges.

>>4500694
Don't.

Digital is a tool. Drawing by hand is still the foundation of Art. Somebody who is good at traditional drawing and painting can learn to be good at digital in a week or two. It doesn't go the other way around.

>>4503080
incessant crabbing.

>>4503021
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/brush-technique-hard-and-soft

What am I supposed to be thinking or doing when I do gesture drawing?

A lot of people suggest gesture drawing to improve at flow and generally capturing figures, and while I'm trying my best to capture the flow of photos, I can't quite tell if I'm "learning correctly". How can I apply gesture drawings to my own drawings? What am I supposed to be getting better at? Should I be trying to draw the skeleton every time, or should I focus more on the form?

>>4503080
Infernal coomers

>>4503432
You focus on mass and rhythm.

Take a figure drawing class and spend an hour doing 30-60s sketches for a couple weeks. You'll figure it out.

How do you actually get started posting art on social media? I have some fanart ideas but it feels weird to upload them on a brand new account with nothing else on it. Should I start with okay throwaway sketches just to fill my page a little? I was thinking of collecting some finished pieces first, then waiting till i have a good handful of followers and posting one a couple times a day or so.

>>4503561
What's the point of posting fanart? It's illegal to profit from, and it's a good indicator of creative bankruptcy.

How do I deal with OCD?

>>4502294
pretty sure that's from reference
nicolaïdes insists a LOT in making fabric studies, but they never look quite right unless you use some reference
not like it's hard making your own reference, anyway

>>4503561
If you wait until you have some "finished pieces" though, it's never gonna happen. I say post some sketches and go ahead with the fanart and use hashtags for the fandom to find you. It's way more likely that you gain traction from that than from OC pieces, anyway.

>>4503572
It's fun and I'm bad at coming up with interesting ideas, so it forces me to practice characters doing specific actions with different types of clothing and features. Also more online interaction is cool

Where can I post and discuss graffiti / street art / bombing

Is CSP for iPad worth it?

Can emotionless guy can make hentai

i don't have any emotion at this point even my work is literal meme i only think about efficiency and already lost soul

that was only way to survive because i can't understand people so i pretend to understand people

No art only business but i wanted draw it life time maybe i can use this as weapon

What is "gesture" in the context of drawing and why is it important?

>>4504661
I don't feel emotions much myself but I think I should be able to represent them as long as I can understand them

>>4500511
This was digitally for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX2e-3WIVJ0
>>4503586
That's a good point. I'll make more photo studies then.
>>4502698
I'll keep that in mind too, thanks.

Do fundies mean figure drawings ?

>>4505191
>>4505231

So I recently watched this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrIsAiUpEXk

I notice he uses the same technique as lots of other professionals, they very quickly slap together a sketch, some values and some colors, yet they clean it up so nicely. How? Is it a specific artist mindset that comes with practice or this a learnt technique? Also how does line-art ever fit into the equation when things get "this" messy?
From: a beg who likes having a clean sketch and clean canvas

>>4505283
It's because those first gesture lines serve a purpose. And especially with digital art, you can always draw over the top of what you did before.

>>4505191
From a practical standpoint, it is getting initial lines on the paper that you can build from. The first lines on the paper are rarely going to be perfect.

Next, it establishes the form, mass, rhythm, and potential motion/balance of the figure.

>>4504048
At the police station.

>>4503576
Actual OCD, or "internet diagnosed OCD?"

Either way, go and do more of the things that make you uncomfortable. You have to break bad habits with better ones.

can i get good without reading

>>4505350
Are you really good at thinking critically, or are you just lazy?

>>4505231
Fundies means the fundamentals of art. Line, shape, 3d form, perspective, anatomy, gesture, value, color,composition.

Anyone got a collection of good statues/busts to use as references?

Why people on this board hate everything that is closer to realism and call it soulless? Like really if peace something other than just a linework with a cellshading they will shit on it

>>4505374
Because this place is overflowing with retarded zoomers

Is 0.9mm too thick? Should I buy a thinner mechanical pencil?

Why so people push loomis so hard unironically hogarth was more helpful

>>4505388
Doesn't matter. Draw a brick with a brick on a brick.

>>4505356
id have to force myself to read. especially some books are just walls of text

>>4505434
Sooo, lazy?

>>4505463
y-yes..

I'm a complete beginner almost never held a drawing pencil in my life. I managed to spout out this handless crap without learning any fundamentals, simply copying lines after my own calculations from a reference pic, which resulted in the proportions being fucked. (i also made another one but it's lewd and worse)

I can't wrap my head around the basics. I can't draw cubes except as seen from the very front. I don't understand how shapes move, bend, twist, etc. I don't understand how they're seen from above or below and I'm not able to find a dumb's guide, step by step, teaching me these things.

What's the best course of action here?

how do you keep from holding your tablet pen too hard. I find I hold it too hard and then my hand is sore after 30 min

>>4505374
Because a) stylized drawings evokes childhood memories and is comforting, b) when people try drawing realistic figures for the first time they're usually stiff af and deep in the Uncanny Valley

>>4505371
Bargue drawing course, or search keyword statues on Pinterest
>>4505623
Open the google doc in the sticky of a /beg/ thread (>>4499262), scroll down to Fundamentals/Construction and Form and see if you can understand it. With zero sense of 3d, I recommend part 1 of Draw a Box
>>4505792
Do you hold a regular pencil/pen that hard? Is your tablet tilted, what is its position? I can't think of anything but actively practicing to hold it softly

>>4505623
See
>>4505246

>>4505846
my tablet is not tilted, should it be?

>>4505865
Dude. If it's that complicated, go back to pencil and paper.

>>4505878
im out of paper

>>4505865
It can make it a bit more comfortable if it's got a tilt like a drawing desk, but it's not that important. Your desk and chair should be at a good height, (no t-rex arm pose) but if you already have good posture, then there's nothing left but practice not clutching the pen hard. Might be worth upping the pressure sensitivity to see if it comes from you pressing too hard

I have an issue where i can't draw things together well, be it faces or anatomy.
having a plan and construction also fucks my drawings up and they feel stiff and unnatural.
how do i fix this (pic related are eyes without faces, i can draw them fine that way.

>>4479212
How do you freehand a circle?

>>4506369
You need to start big. In terms of say figures being stiff, you have to focus on the line of action and using confident, flowy lines. From there you apply proportions based on the head size. Break things down, dont start with details.

>>4505374
Depends a lot on the drawing, but don't forget close to 80% here are crabs and coomers.

>>4482426
I know this is an extremely late response. But there is no reason to get standalone photoshop over photography bundle unless you enjoy paying more for less. Even if you never use Lightroom.

Are there any benefits in having a drawing tablet when you are learning to draw, to somehow supplement your training. If your end goal is drawing/painting traditionally?

>>4506544
By copying a circle very slowly and practicing it every day many times until you can do it fast
>>4508459
Well you save $$$ for materials, that's for sure. You can learn all the "mental skills" (perspective/3d stuff/figure drawing/color and values...) but you will still have to learn how to master your traditional media. Digital is a medium in itself that needs mastering