/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4479050
>Abstract
>”art“

>>4479050
That's about as easy to answer as "What does /ic/ think of figurative art?" or "What does /ic/ think of sculpture?"

Try asking something more specific next time.

>>4479050
It can be great like Hilma's or Ernst's works. It can also suck ass like Pollock.

>>4479050
It can look aesthetically pleasing, and it has its place, but I feel it's far too valued by the elite of the art industry and that's what draws most of its hatred.

>>4479050
It can be nice but it's usually not my prefered type of art

>>4479050
pretty cool, I get a lot of ideas just from looking at the thumbnail
you really have to be in the right state of mind to get anything out of it though, like looking for interesting color combinations and shapes that you can take and run wild with
it's kind of like looking for cool patterns in wood grain or clouds as a kid that you can imagine as something else, but better

literally speaking abstract art can look nice.
that shitty excuse of a "painting" you posted isn't art and is total garbage which should be burned at a pyre.

I like it in a different way compare to regular art that is visually pleasing. Abstract art tells the state of what the artist was at when he painted it, it could be his emotions, story or character. I find it funny that people don't consider abstract art "Art". Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's not art, art is anything that moves you. A white piece of people can still be art in a gallery if it invokes some sort of discussion or emotion depending on the person.

Abstract art is based on the concept rather than something that is visually understandable or pleasing, It gets the message across through through visual means. If you look at Art Therapy pieces done by children, it is often just scribbles and colourful paint but when interpreted, you can actually see meaning in the spontaneousness of the paint marks or colour use.

In another words, Abstract Art is nothing more than the artist painting what he's current state is without any material goals. It's drawing from within.

>>4479305
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>>4479050
Visual appeal isn’t constrained to reality, and we often find comfort in images that trigger subconscious reflexes in our brains that we may not really understand, and for that, it’s valuable only to the person who finds it appealing.
The problem is the community AROUND abstract art, including the artists. Firstly, it’s well known to be a source of money laundering, because values are limitless for what the layman knows is garbage, but cannot objectively defend his stance due to the subjective nature of “artistic taste”. Secondly, there are art snobs who act like scholars in literature, always trying to break down every color, expression, or scene for nonexistent subcontext or some nonsense about feeling the artist’s pain or emotion or history. These people have zero depth in the things they talk about, but pretend to have this bond with the artist to wow their equally lost colleagues. All these people excitedly nod and agree, not wanting to be the one beret wearing, effete waste of space that shows their complete lack of understanding of the material. This clamoring over worthless crap gives the artist a wild ego, making them do more and more stupid art, trying desperately to give off the appearance that they’re anywhere near the tortured, enigmatic master that they’re being paraded around as.

Tl;dr modern art is a giant scam that preys on pseudo-intellectuals who want to fit in.

>>4479732
whats the problem with it? I think it looks quite good.

>>4479732
post good abstract art then

it like like any other art

a step to something greater

>>4479080
>suck ass like Pollock
I take issue with this, Pollock's work means nothing on it's own, but in relation to him it becomes something else entirely, the fact alone that the man died through alcohol driven confused murder suicide tells so much about why his work adds up to something

>>4480014
>alcohol driven confused murder suicide
damn, never knew about that

>>4480014
calling a dui car crash a "murder suicide" is kind of fucked up dude

>>4479050
>>4479893
this kind of abstract art is lazy and boring

>>4479080
this kind of abstract art is the good shit

>>4480021
really?
the one word I would never use to describe Karel Appels art would be "boring"

>>4480035
just a matter of taste I suppose. always hated smeared colors on a canvas to make random shapes

>>4480019
he was laughing and screaming as he crashed, his end was one that was doomed to obliterate himself but was so severe in it's abandonment that it took another along with it in it's carelessness, and it's through this terribly troubled and tragic view of Pollock that we can see how his life of anger, confusion and destruction could somehow level to create such sublime images of pure thought in his effort to bring some equilibrium to his existence as a backwoods boy in the big city with alcoholism and no sense of foundation in the society he so wished to speak to, he just wanted to make sense of things for himself, and even though he could not manage to in his lifetime, he destroyed himself and so much more in some misguided effort to do so that it went above and beyond himself and into an example for all of us, and even in it's terribleness and childishness it yet works to let us see some hazy vision that even in the middle of the 20th century with all its narrative titanic turns and spins it makes its way back to all of us fundamentally as human beings as pure emotion and thought and confusion and attempt at making sense of this chaotic life we all live in unison individually

Pollock was pushed into the world of multi millions through cold war intelligence funding and some American sense of superiority, but it will be himself and his own unique and tragic tale that will ensure he and his drifting meanings in spaces of colour and matter and space adding up to some brief and unsubstantial yet eternal and complete tellings of human emotions that dictate the lives of every one of us for better or for worse in our own confused and anguished lives live on into the coming centuries

>>4480081
>he was laughing and screaming as he crashed
maybe 'cause he was drunk?

>>4480100
exactly, he was so lost in it all that all he could do was plunge as far in to being lost as he could though substances, and it all cost him his life and that of another innocent, his life does not give us a pleasant tale to use as example, but a necessary one, because it could be so easy for any of us to go into the same fate, or to damn it as inconsequential and below us, but his art gives us the link to see that he was as much a human being as any of us as mortal beings in an infinite and constantly changing environment, and that we should take his tragedy with gravity, in order that we not only avoid it, but incorporate it

of course Pollock knew very little of this, but he knew enough in his findingly miserable existence in the middle of the miserable century that was the 20th

>>4480113
please, you're gonna make me throw up. you're doing a massive disservice to jackson pollock's death, who he was as a person and the impact of his art with all this bullshit romanticizing. his body of work was deeply touching and captivating enough without needing to feign profundity as clumsily as you do.

>>4480170
what else am I supposed to do but romanticising as a non-American myself towards such an Americana symbol of expression of things so hard to put into words, Pollock ended tragically, and I feel his art represents something that could only end the same way he did, without reason or conclusion, it just sits there moving in its own way with its won energy forever, without revision or reconsideration, it's as timeless as it ever was and ever will be, my interpretation only considers the artist beyond all things, which is what I think all consideration of art should do if it want sot get to the bottom of things, you don't go around trying to make sense of the development of language in a particular geography without taking into consideration in a big way the culture and history of the area, because that's how you explain how it appears as it does today